>you just hate it when black characters are in games!
Except we love characters like:
CJ from GTA:SA
Cole Train from Gears
Jacob from ME
Jacob from GTA V 4
Franklin from GTA V
Lamar from GTA V
Sheva from RE5
Sazh from FFXIII
Louis from L4D
Coach from L4D2
Big Bo from Binary Domain
Rodin from Bayonetta
Sgt. Johnson from Halo
Anderson from ME
I can go on.
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Also O'saa from Fear & Hunger
Indeed. Good choices.
nah he's a selfish Black person
but he'd the worst character anon
For me it's Garcian Smith
>Jacob from ME
No one liked him tho. His ass sat on the bench all game for me.
I didn't hate him, but he wasn't terrible.
I knew I was forgetting someone. Thanks anon.
This. The guy was straight up the worst companion out of the three main games. He had a nonexistent personality, constantly advocated for the worst plans (venting Legion, volunteering to be the tech person for the suicide mission) and was hostile to new party members, and had one of the most abysmal romances where he actually cheats on you by the third game.
Hell, hilariously enough, he's a super racist depiction in terms of his character/missions. His loyalty mission is focused on his father who left him and his mom to which, when you find the father, he's living in the jungle with a bunch of mind controlled slaves/harem. And don't forget the mission involving him in ME3 where you find out he's managed to get another woman pregnant within the short amount of time between the two games. And this happens even if you had romanced him, making him basically the only choice who actively cheats on you in the series.
Jacob is the worst no matter which side you look at his character from.
you deserve to be cheated on if you go for a black man
Damn really? I made him sit on a bench due to weird Black person porn actor look he had so i didn't know he was that shit
His loyalty mission was pretty cool. That's about it I suppose.
I like him because he's just an butthole. Way more refreshing to just have a straight-up jackass than a rough badass like Zaeed.
he is a corny ass Black person, but his dad was based and should have been recruitable
I won't say I liked him but I was at the very worst indifferent. He had some cool aspects or moments, he's just heavily overshadowed by the rest.
He's not a bad character.
Canon Shep is a guy
>Hey Jacob, you used to be Alliance before right? Where are you from?
Sorry Shepard, I don't like to talk about my origins, it's just not important anymore.
>You said you were a corsair for a time, how was that life?
It's a closed chapter of my life Shepard let's not talk about it.
>So apparently you and Miranda worked on some big secret thing that was very important for galactic stability, what was it?
I don't usually divulge stuff like that Shepard.
>Yeah I got that, Not that I was gonna romance you but I'm curious, what the absolute frick is a female player even supposed to bond with you over to be conductive to a romance if you absolutely refuse to say anything?
No idea myself, I was gonna cheat on them anyway ha ha.
>no Demoman
>we like black characters when they are blaxploitation expys or exotic sex dolls
uhhh not a good look if you ask me
Most of those characters act like anyone else. Their defining trait isn't being black, like most AAA western games make them now.
Those characters are all relagtreable, they're all human beings first. Their race is not central to their character.
Another good one.
relateable*
Race is an important part of BIPOC lives. "Their defining trait isn't being black" means that the lived experiences of BIPOC aren't being represented in the game. They are being ignored or hidden, which perpetuates racism and oppression.
Being a skin color is not a substitute for personality.
Why do you keep bringing up games no one else has mentioned?
Right-wing people are more accepting and tolerant than left-wing people. You guys throw around the term "Uncle Tom" more than anyone else. You hate conservative black people just as much as white people.
Deathloop was an obvious ploy by the devs to claim racism if their game failed.
>Deathloop was an obvious ploy by the devs to claim racism if their game failed.
That's false and you can't/never back it up because i know the exact reason why the main characters were black.
>Deathloop was an obvious ploy by the devs to claim racism if their game failed.
Okay champ.
Now type how you actually talk coon
>Their race is not central to their character.
Then why make them black?
It's entirely central to CJs character
Context is needed. acknowledging the character's race is a must in some cases
>civil war era
>ghetto areas
He’s from the GTA equivalent of South Central LA in 1992, it’s unavoidable. It’s the difference between being black and getting shot in the face over orange juice or being the Korean shop owner holding the gun.
oh yeah almost forgot
>we like them only when they are in supporting roles, for the white lead main characters
gta is the exception that proves the rule
Oh yeah? What about Marlow Briggs?
Is Marlow Briggs actually worth playing?
It's a fun (old style) GoW clone that you can pick up for pretty cheap
so yes
I played it years ago. I guess it was at least decent.
Absolutely. It's a passable whatever you call that genre with likeable characters, good humor and random shmup levels out of fricking nowhere. 5 bucks on steam too.
sex dolls
This. Sheva is a poor representation of minority women. She is fetishized through her african ancestry and her tribal ancestry is used to make her into a sex object for the male gaze. I recommend watching anitas video "not your exotic fantasy" to learn more about the fetishization and poor representation of minority women in gaming and media
Bullshit, she is fetishized for dat ass and dem breasts.
You forgot the best one
He and Kenny were the best characters in the entire series, even better than Clem herself. Of course excluding side characters like Chuck
>even better than Clem herself
clem is a bad character. youre just a pedophile.
time to stop projecting
not an argument. shes a shit character and nothing but a mission objective. you only like her because youre a Black person loving pedophile. she could have been replaced with a sack of potatoes that you have to carry around and it would have made no difference to the game.
tell me how else you feel about little girls that need protection in a zombie apocalypse
Clem isn't supposed to be her own character. She's a blank slate but not one you play as like an MC but one which you're supposed to be aware of as you're playing and making decisions, like your conscience. "How is this going to affect Clem," you'll think because what she does matters less than what you do because she's there.
thats why i said shes a shit character and later on said she could be replaced by an object and it would make no difference.
That's her purpose though, to be an object for the player and not a character of her own.
Yeah, but, to be fair, Lee was a bit urban.
Anon had to keep it short, like Clem's hair
What's the point of this thread? liking some characters from japanese games doesn't justify that some people here are instantly racist against anyone who happnes to be brown in a video game.
Don't believe me? just make a deathloop thread and wait.
The point is that reddit likes to act like we hate black people simply for existing when in reality, we just hate pandering. I'm black myself and a lot of the black characters now are insulting because being black is their defining trait.
Black people don't need pandering to. It's all white guilt frickers who feel the need to insert us in simply for diversity points.
Game devs are unironically more racist than the "chuds" here on Ganker.
That completely ignores the Black personloop threads on Ganker though when Colt is a completely alright character. I'd hardly call him a tokenized character that exists for brownie points.
Most of the complains I saw were over the female character. That is just anecdotal on my part, but that's what I remember
but why is he a Black person? he's not dumb enough
But then why nobody make such thread about other main black character ? Do you see anyone shitting all day on CJ ? Barrett from ff7 ? Lambert from Splinter Cell ? Blade ? Nobody was doing this back then because those characters wasn't "black" to get some EGS points, no, they were black because their personality reflected that culture/race, that's it.
it was extensively marketed from a woke shit nog angle anon, it deserves the hate it gets for that.
it would be real easy to not make both of the main characters black, and then also real easy to not make the marketing focus highlight it constantly so it gets 'praise' from homosexual journalists, and it would have also been real easy to not make it extensively blacksploitation themed
you can infact just stick a single black character in and then shut the frick up, never mention it, never highlight it and not go all in on more and more black themed shit
but that won't get you positive journalist coverage, which is what they wanted along with esg rating. so if they want that, they get shit on :^)
This falls flat for me at least partially, I will have to do more research. I did not play Death Loop. However from a loose scan I can see that Death Loop features a black main character and that the director of Death Loop was Dinga Bakaba, a Parisian who worked at Arkane Studios. The same studio that made Dishonored. No I don't know anything about this guy other than his name and what he looks like and what I skimmed over on a couple of articles, seriously the guy is such a nobody that the Wikipedia page just redirects back to Death Loop's, however I can say with certainty that he ain't a white guy. I can reasonably say that he may be mixed. So he probably just wrote what he knew or what he understood.
I bring this up because I've seen this shit before. Killzone being the biggest victim of this. Everybody knows Killzone as PlayStations alleged Halo killer. Except Guerilla Games never called it that, they just wanted to make the FPS they wanted to make. It was PlayStation magazine who called it the Halo killer and everybody who looked at the front page assumed Guerilla Games said it. So it got judged by a standard GG games never set for themselves.
More to the point there's always going to be those screeching autists see a black man character in the main character role and think that it's a political move instead of just a guy making the character that he wanted to make. And because some unrelated media claim that this is a victory for the woke crowd that the developer signed off on it when in reality the developer was just doing what they wanted to do. Nobody assumes Japan is trying to make brownie points just because a character is outside of their race. They make American and European and Black characters all the time. But the people who say this sort of shit are so hyper vigilant that you go looking for poison in a well where there is none.
Deathloop has a thin veneer of Blaxploitation over it (I honestly think they should have leaned harder into it, but they probably didn't want to ruffle feathers too much), which in the current climate translates 1:1 as woke garbage to a lot of people, when it's just a really, really watered down version of something like Black Dynamite.
Deathloop sucked when compared to other rliop games, other immersive sims, and other Arkane games. They used token diversity to cover for all the games weaknesses and then when people criticized it, they could use the diversity as a shield.
>The point is that reddit likes to act like we hate black people simply for existing
That's the case though. literally every new game that has a black person in the trailer will get memed one way or another
>Starfield
>Forspoken
>Dead island 2
>Deathloop
They don't care if it's obvious pandering or not like Saints row or Need for speed Unbound for example
the hysteria that's been ignited by identity politics is affecting both sides ironically
I swear I have not seen any of that here outside of deathloop.
I don't not believe you, this board's quality drastically fluctuates on a dime.
>open archive
>filter for posts with images
>search "we wuz"
Have you been living under a rock anon?
"Identity politics" isn't some entity that's equally affecting "both sides." One side is genociding whites, the other side is whites who'd rather not be genocided.
Exactly.
and want to genocide non-whites
A few loonies on /misc/ do, and who knows how many of them are federal agents.
That's the far right and people who want genocide whites are far left. extremism in both cases
This isn't "both sides." The left, i.e. the israelites, have been working hard for decades to purge Western countries of whites and trash their cultures, and are succeeding at it. That isn't even "the far left," that's just the left, period.
Nice try.
The israelites are hitting everyone with one stone though, including black people who were groomed by left leaning politics because otherwise they'll be uncle toms or house Blacks.
But i also think it's pretty shortsighted to classify every leftie as a white genocider because politcs are more complex than that. not every right leaning person is a nazi too
It is an inseparable core part of leftism to attempt to destroy its host society. That's why it exists.
>average conservative talking about progressives
Not him, but I don't think that's true.
When was the last time you saw any major news outlet actually call for non-whites to be killed?
Meanwhile, it happens almost daily in regards to white people.
using the word genocide is just gonna make them dismiss your point though, I prefer to say it's demographic displacement, whites are being forced out of their spaces, including media. And it is indeed moronic to call it a "culture war" when it's literally one sided, one side attacking the other.
Then go frick more white women and make more white kids. Oh wait, you're a chudcel.
Stop flooding our countries with migrants.
>genocide
Where are the mass graves?
>That's the case though. literally every new game that has a black person in the trailer will get memed one way or another
Because literally every game has it and puts it in. It IS possible to not have it in every game you know, it is quite possible to not make the trailer include them even if you do have them in the game also. These are all conscious, purposeful choices. Do you walk out your house and 3 out of every 4 people are black? No, so why is it that way in games. If you purposely do shit that doesn't align with reality even closely, people WILL notice, humans are good at pattern recognition even subconsciously.
why are u black?
>The point is that reddit likes to act like we hate black people simply for existing when in reality, we just hate pandering.
There is no “we”, Ganker isn’t a unified entity. You might feel that way and many others probably do too, but I’ve seen many people on here openly admit they hate black people just for existing.
>The point is that reddit likes to act like we hate black people simply for existing when in reality, we just hate pandering.
Bullshit. People here hate every black character nowadays and justifying it saying they have Black person fatigue. Whether it's a good or a bad character is completely irrelevant, they just claim that because of too many bad depictions, they automatically assume that blackie will also be a Black person and therefore it is necessary to preemptively hate it.
False. What we hate is being forcefed leftist agenda. They just use brown characters as a vehicle for their agenda, hence why we hate those characters.
Furthermore, agenda characters are always phony and inauthentic.
I'm almost 99% sure majority of people don't like Black folk because of black color as much as politics they represent. Imagine if you hated Hillary Clinton but she was obsessed in eating and promoting McDonalds. By some point people would dunk on McDonalds over political goal it represent. Notice same people "being racist" also post Black characters from "The Thing" "They Live" "Blade" "Men in Black" "Justice League" "Star Trek" "OG Star Wars" without any distaste to actor or character. I don't think real racism against Black as a color even exist anymore. I'm sure it exist to israelites but not to American or African Blacks who are for example raght wing or concervative
Most of those characters come from the “everyone’s the same” era of peak liberalism. The slow agitation of progressive politics have made characters like this nearly impossible today where being the same means erasing minority identity and minority identity means yass queen gay Black folk dabbing on whitie
No one in a videogame happens to be anything they are made whatever way they are deliberately.
I look at this and without a doubt, he's black.
picrel is not Asian
He is clearly okinawan
I've always hated this gay Black person from the outer space.
if these games came out now the same chuds would complain, the culture war and id politics just wasn't as bad back then, twitter ruined everything
Not really because people here only complain when you can tell the devs did it for brownie points. Your argument is simply nothing more than conjecture.
Context means everything. No one b***hed about Elias in Callisto Protocol.
No, if FFXIII came out now the only difference would be that fewer people would deny the Australians are dykes.
>if these games came out now the same chuds would complain,
If made now it would be woke and people would rightfull hate it.
BTFOed once again, strawmentard
Lets test that theory. Someone name at least 3 Black based character from the 2020's-2023 who werent just called a woke token?
not him but o'saa is the only one i can think of
Osaa is kind of a stereotype. Its like making a Black character who is also a Voodoo witch doctor. The less American he is then less woke people find him due to leftists hating portrayal of African Blacks
>Elias - The Callisto Protocol
>Colt - Deathloop
>Sebhat - Pentiment
>Isaac - The last of us 2
this one is ironic because the last of us is a pure lesbian, feminism propaganda
>Sebhat - Pentiment
As token as it gets, he literally does nothing in the story except teach white kids about black people
Barret from FF7R and Rodin from Bayo 3 are pretty cool.
I dont think legacy characters from remakes count. Only new ones would fit this test
Ekundayo from Pathfinder Kingmaker is far and away one of the best characters in the game and will always have a spot in every single party I ever make
True. He also wasn't out of place in the setting, like some multiethnic salad that doesn't fit or "the black guy nobody notices he's black". He came from far far away.
He's a cool character
Too bad they fricked up in WoR, that game's cast is so bad I can't even play it. I really liked Ekun.
Ekun was based as frick.
>You're not from around here, are you?
>What gave it away? My accent or my skin color?
kek
Strife from Darksiders
Leroy from Tekken 7
Panam from Cyberpunk 2077
blackguard big boggart
Marvin from the Resident Evil 2 remake was an actual character. I know it's a remake but the way he was portrayed was completely different than how he was in the original.
>Not mentioning the most based black video game character
I love the demoman as a character, but he's the bane of my existence as an engineer main.
>spend half the match getting a perfect nest built
>have the right tele location for my team, a dispenser for my hoovy, and a sentry to keep the point safe
>suddenly hear drunken belching
>OOOHHHHHIMGONNATURNYAINTOTHINGLUE
>crit sticky
>everything goes black (no pun intended)
>see this in the kill cam
>puts subhuman gayoneer mains on suicide watch
All the more reason to love based Degroot.
brehs that how it be
No. We don't. ALL poop is shit. Don't make threads.
>We don't.
Apparently, based on this thread, we do.
>you just hate it when black characters are in games!
yes
>we
who?
Take me back.
>FIYAR IN YOUR HOL'
If you don't like every black character ever crated then you are racist. No exceptions.
It hurts to look at. Why do zoomers like ugliness so much?
>all conviently from before the new race war was started to distract everyone from class inequality
delete this thread i have to fight facism online on a singaporean pearl diving forum
There is a difference. Before people would actually give black characters a chance because they had the common sense to just see them as characters and not a tickbox on a checklist of inclusivity. Now people will see a black character; the knees start jerking and people have to scream how they won't buy this game now because the presence of a black person makes it woke garbage.
At least give the character a chance to be shit before calling them shit.
The problem isn't one-sided, though. The people noticing that blacks are inserted for diversity points aren't wrong.
At the end of the day, simply don't buy the game if you don't like it.
Then again, this is the only place where you can call it out, so don't be surprised when people do just that .
>Now people will see a black character; the knees start jerking and people have to scream how they won't buy this game now because the presence of a black person makes it woke garbage.
Can't imagine why this could have happened. What could have possibly changed in the last 15 years or so?
We had a black president.
Its not their fault that usually Black character on a cover is a big red flag that the game is a pozzed woke garbage. Its like not assuming that a twitter user is a woke moron after only seeing a pronounce on their bio
>At least give the character a chance to be shit before calling them shit.
Imagine giving some chef 1000 chances to serve you food, he serves you shit on a plate 900 times, and you screech that it's wrong to expect the 901st time to be shit and to give them a chance lol.
Shut the frick up lad, they're shit because of a long pattern, and the correct expectation is based on noticing that pattern and its usual design
>Now people will see a black character; the knees start jerking and people have to scream how they won't buy this game now because the presence of a black person makes it woke garbage.
Wow that's strange. What could give people that idea?
>At least give the character a chance to be shit before calling them shit.
You burned all the good will, invader
Don't Forget John Blade from SiN
is he black? I just thought he had dreads
He is the blackest. It just doesn't look right in this picture.
Aw yeah now I can see it, didnt know it too well since I never played the sequel games.
Sazh is such a great Dad, black men WISH they could be him
Sazh was a breathe of fresh air.
It's really hard to put into words, but there's a difference between a character who is black and a Black Character.
The former's race is an integral part of their character and of the plot. The latter feels like a political imposition.
Can never quite verbalize the exact difference, but you can just FEEL it.
Same goes for female/gay characters.
that feeling is your radicalization.
I used to call myself a "libertarian", I used to call myself a "nationalist", I used to call myself a "fascist", and I used to call myself a "communist". If anything, that feeling is my actual opinion after I gotten a life, had sex and stopped caring so much about online politics.
Or, common sense.
You ever thought about why? Maybe it's because they're not included because it benefits the game. They simply do it to appear virtuous. It's why those characters are always one-dimensional.
You people need to understand that it's not the action that matters, it's the intent. But, you're too fricking stupid to realize it.
>You ever thought about why?
Yes, racism. It's all over this site not just Ganker and /misc/ you cannot escape it. I was on Ganker (History) a week ago and half the threads were about Africa and Blacks being subhuman garbage and how Blacks actually liked being slaves.
This is a right wing extremist site that sometimes discusses the topic of the board.
i'm also trans btw if that matters
It's funny you say that when people in this very thread think a good black character is one where their race isn't relevant to their character or plot.
You can have both work with good writing, and both come off as fake or forced with bad writing.
>a good black character is one where their race isn't relevant to their character or plot
Those are fine, but the best ones are the ones whose blackness is an important part of their character, but they are not DEFINED by it.
CJ is the best demonstration of this ideal. Being black is absolutely integral to his character, but he is not just "Black personman". He is a black guy who grew up poor in a shitty ghetto and got sucked into a life of crime. His race is absolutely vital because that's the sort of story GTA SA is, but CJ has actual character traits BEYOND being a dumb stereotype.
>He is a black guy who grew up poor in a shitty ghetto and got sucked into a life of crime. His race is absolutely vital because that's the sort of story GTA SA is, but CJ has actual character traits BEYOND being a dumb stereotype.
The problem is that, given what we've seen of Black folk in the past 50 years, those character traits are unrealistic to a ridiculous degree, even for a videogame. It's one in a million, similar to israelites and Bobby Fischer.
Okay we get it, you're racist and want everyone to know.
But what does this have to do with CJ being a good black character?
CJ isn't a good character though. The characters around him are amusing, but he himself is an unrealistic depiction of a black and is just bland as a result.
>we
Ganker isn't a hivemind. Some people like or dislike blacks and others don't give a shit
This board chimps out every time a black person is in a trailer.
>you just hate it when black characters are in games!
wrong
I love black characters that are actually written and have a character beyond "I'M BLACK BLACK BLACKITY BLACK BLACK Black CHO-CO-LA-TE"
That's what we're trying to say, anon.
Pretty much this. Make a Black character like Lee who is smart and goes beyond everything to save a child than some butthole homie Jacob who abandons kids for more pussy and gangsta rap
lol
it's great because i really thought it was a black guy with a huge afro from the thumbnail
>no Barret
Frick you. He was the only good thing about the remake.
Unfortunately Remake is such a shitshow that Square Enix shills drown out the only good part of it by praising shit that makes it awful.
>Y-you see the Time Jannies are good!
>W-why!? Well... uh...
>BECAUSE... uh... now we don't know what can happen!
>I-isn't that exciting!?
>W-what do you mean it's stupid and disrespectful to the source material!?
>Y-you're moronic! It's a REMAKE! Not a REMASTER! Know the difference!
The fact that Capcom understood the assignment better than Square Enix after their rough decade of doing moronic shit shows that Square Enix along with it's consumers are going to sink the franchise but keep it afloat because they don't know quality.
I'd be completely fine with remake if they also released an untouched remaster.
i'd be fine with remake (even if it is hot garbage for the most part) if they actually marketed it as a sequel. because that's what it is. It's not a remaster, it's not a remake, it's not what the poeople have been asking for years.
I can already see the meltdown if they make a FF with a black protagonist
No, because Japan actually knows how to write black characters.I think it'd be interesting for them to do that.
Modern Day FF Protag would get a stupid back story and neo nazis will b***h about it while normies will either find it haha funny and tryhard Squeenix gays will reeee about normies finding it funny.
>and neo nazis will b***h
Why? We've literally proven that if the character is well-written and doesn't exist solely to tick diversity boxes and shit on "the white man," then we don't give a frick. You keep failing to understand that we're more nuanced than you think. You boiling everything down to ," lol, racism!" just makes you look stupid.
>I-I don't get mad
>proceeds to get mad
okay, boomer
Classic cope.
>he responded to me in any way, therefore he's mad.
If it's a western AA game, then it's basically forced. If they actually cared about true diversity, they'd put Latino and Asian characters in their game. They never do, though. It is always the sassy, black woman with an afro who always ends up saving the white protagonist.
>black woman with an afro who always ends up saving the white protagonist.
This happened in like 2 games at maximum, not every "western AA game"
Because you aren't smart enough to actually detect forced diversity
>we're more nuanced than you think
>complains about blacks in Deathloop
>a game that is literally based around blaxploitation films
>MUH DISCO ELSYSIUM IS A COMMIE troony GAME!!!
>Only character that treats you nicely is the capitalist caricature
You're not fooling anyone. Typical right winged behavior. You people love to pretend to be objective in an attempt to sound reasonable but I've seen enough conservative pseudo intellectuals to see through this bullshit.
Disco Elysium is politics through the lens of communists though
And? The message of the game as far as communism is concerned is that it's literally a fictitious pipe-dream that devours its own and is expected to descend into corruption.
They have shoved black diversity down out throats so much that we now push back against it ALL. Even if it isn't done maliciously or if the character is ok. It's their fault.
This.
For example I can watch old movies starring/co-starring blacks without problem, but new stuff I don't even care to give it a chance.
As many said years ago, the woke regime will cause the opposite effect of what they hope to force.
Nah, Sazh is coolest guy in FF13.
>Jacob from GTA 4
yeah, Little Jacob was a total bro
>"Ey Niko! *Jamaican gibberish*"
>joins you to hunt some b***h pastaBlack person who tried to murk you at a wedding.
>no hesitation that he could be signing his death warrant for fricking with the mob
The only other ride or die friend that could compare to them in the series was CJ and Woozie.
Let's be real, Jimmy P was a fricking joke and half the reason he had any standing was because of Niko's handiwork.
I didn't understand what the frick he's saying half the time but he was a bro
Sazh from FFXIII sucks, he’s a terrible character get that shit outta here
Why do black characters need an excuse to exist when white characters can be as shitty as possible and not be token white guys?
Because whites created videogames for other whites, it’s our space, just like hi[ hop and jail belongs to blacks
Part of it is that mixed race societies inherently do not work and everyone would rather stick to their own groups. Another part is that blacks and other minority groups are now force-fed down everyone's throats 24/7 from every possible direction in the most aggressive and crass way possible, and more and more people are sick of it.
You forgot Eli Vance
*Raptor noises*
I could use more black girls to be honest. Just make them cute. My jungle fever needs it.
Shitdevs literally cannot do black hair right in any capacity. It's fricking nauseating.
>dude afros and braids lmao
And that's on top of the hair modelling look like shit.
this so much
I need cute black girls in my vidya and on my dick
I really do wish for once that liberals, communists, whatever, would just admit what they do. What harm would come of it? The entire establishment is on their side, so what the frick would happen if they admitted it?
We know they want white people dead. So, just admit it. What will they do?
What would be Ganker reaction to a protagonist similar to this?
They'd want to frick it.
1. based
2. frick it
3. as long as its not written to be some irl mouthpiece for moron race politics and sjw shit or an avenue for "we wuz kangs", nobody would care. people love dark elves and egyptian catgirls, people just don't take kindly to being attacked
lots of sex
when this came out and i saw him for the first time, i said to myself "this is racist"
japan at the time were fine with cool dark fantasy and even some modern but they were so out of touch on blacks, this character showed they had no clue about blacks at the time and just rolled eddy murphy films
im glad square enix and capcom need to hire race inspectors for their games to be "appropriate" because today in 2023 with forespoken and sf6 coming out, they show they have zero idea and dont care and will happily FUND these pointless jobs created for.. what?
frick ff13 and frick the original 14. oh and frick 12 too why not.
>We have 1 week left, what do we do, polish animations?or just inject the rest of the budget in marketing
>no, we're hiring a race inspector
ok buddy
and black people are going to pay for it I assume?
Are you aware you have a sickness in your head?
Honestly threads like these make me pretty happy as a black dude. Sometimes It gets to me how much hate the idea of a black character gets in the gaming community because of recent media simply using us as fricking checkboxes and ignoring that we are literally just people too. Black culture EXISTS but not all black people are apart of said culture. Like nordic culture exists but not every white person is apart of that either. We're fricking people dude, write us the same fricking way you would write anyone else. The color should never be the defining aspect of anyone's character, especially in media.
Bingo, anon.
No! Tyrone. you must listen to hip hop, throw gang signs and get a BBL
Most white people do share traits though, the only major difference between white countries are that some are selfish while others are selfless
Black culture comes from high testosterone but no positive male role models. You only don’t ape out because you’re low test, as signified by your post and the anime girl you are in love with.
forspoken is proof it's not okay when japan does it
it's just normally they do it RIGHT
Tariq Nasheed - buck breaking
>No bro haha I'm totally not gay don't show your bussy on camera haha
The problem are not masculine Black characters who have a grace of a teacher or your conservative dad. The problem are NIGGS the zoomer demasculine pro BLM men whose only value in life is being Black. Nu Shaggy, nu-Lando, nu-Bow, nu-Spiderman. All fricking boi pussy Black folk who never saw a gym or tough life
Mindy Kaling is such a whiny piece of shit.
>Bitches about WhiteMale+AsianFemale couples because she feels entitled to the affection of White men
>Bitches about misogynistic men, but when White men do it it's fine since she likes white men and feels entitled to their affection
>Bitches about racism towards her, but when White men do it it's fine since she likes white men and feels entitled to their affection
>Bitches about homosexuality, but says it's fine when women kiss women because women don't "rub" their junk anyways
>Bitches about transexuality, but says it's fine when White women transition to White men because she's entitled to their affection
She made Fred a whiny b***h who also gets desperate for attention of Velma in episode 4 and Velma gets over him and ditch him for Daphne
It's really some power fantasy for her.
She remarked how her husband shouldn't get mad if she ever cheated on him since she's entitled to his love and theirs.
>Franklin from GTA V
nah, he was the most boring character in the game
Dont forget our friend Robert who likes to play pranks on white people only
I HATE COMPUTERS!
>we
nah speak for yourself i don't want blacks in vidya
Imagine turning out of the coolest characters in the Marvel universe into a pussy who's doing yoga and spergs out about vampire movies.
Did they really?
It's not like they've turned him into a complete soiboi, but those two examples are real.
And it's not just Blade, most heroes in Midnight Suns have spectacularly mundane personalities. It's probably intentional so they'd be "relatable" or something, but it came with a side effect of making all heroes feel "neutered". Which is a shame.
>Except we love characters like:
You just posted a list of caricatures and stereotypes.
>s-shut it down!
lamar is designed off of a real black man
iMAGINE BEING A WHITE PERSON AND WORSHIPPING BLACK PEOPLE
>worshipping game characters
why would I imagine being your mom?
Porter from Bioshock 2: Minerva's Den.
>based weapon
>based armour design
>wise mentor trope
Capcom knew what they were doing
Ganker would be making bait threads about how gaming is ruined if any of those came out today.
Is it their fault? Of all those woke journos who make us all sensitive to that issue? Its the same with female white protagonists too. Color barely make any difference
>Is it their fault?
Yes
Imagine admitting you're easily influenced by clickbait, lmao.
No matter how hard you try, if i make half of the threads about how gay you are for not playing Minecraft and do it for years, you will Pavlov react with disgust over seeing just a Minecraft related meme. Its already happening with Amogus. But it's journos who made me sick of it
>Its already happening with Amogus
You're literally just a reactionary homosexual with no sense of self control feeding into the machine you're apparently so aware of.
lol
It's not clickbait, it's culture war, and it's affecting every sector of society.
it's almost as if no one minds Black folk being in video games as long as they're interesting or well written characters, what we don't like is shitty boring characters written by untalented writers who tend to put Black folk in their games because they know that their games are so shit the only people that would praise them are the representation crowd who think it's a positive thing being used as makeup for bad writing
I can't actually think of that many games where Ganker got pissed off about black people being in it. Deathloop, destruction all stars and the promo art for that grand strategy game that I can't remember the name of but after that I'm drawing a blank.
Are there even that many black male characters that are hated for being "woke" or whatever unless they're a race washed previously white character? I usually just see it with ugly black women which makes sense since not even black men like black women.
It's amazing how almost every single one of them is before le culture war shit went crazy in 2014
You mean before actual illiterate morons and third worlders got smartphones and chatbots started farming them
>2014
Sorry zoomie, but it was 2007 and there was a time when calling someone a Black person or homosexual wasn't a bannable offense.
Yes, all I want to do is say Black person to some random 14yr old on the internet. No, I don't care about his feelings or anyone elses, while i'm playing a video game where I kill people.
homosexualry like describing everything you don't like as "toxic" is the problem.
All I wanted to do was play video games and occasionally talk shit, get shit talked back to me, have fun.
Now private servers barely exist except for extremely small aspie players, nonexistent on any of the AA/AAA titles, and there's more positions in chat-police of game companies than actual game devs.
i simply hate women
Raven is cool and all but frick, Master Raven is like 2x cooler. i mean, her name has MASTER in it! also she has a sweet ninja blade. she can even make my pee pee go hard! i do hate how 5.0 ver, they remove the knockdown off of BT 1+2 and B,b2 and reduce the damage off of some moves. plus the wall crush being her BT 1+2 isn't all that great :
>All T8 characters are way more muscular
Cooooming like KoF`s Dolores
I won`t mention mine, you may jinx the poor bros
I'm not a homosexual stormgay so
The only black character I like from your list is CJ and you forgot Big Smoke.
Don't forget Winston from Overwatch
Ngl I remember refusing to play San Andreas because of the main character.
Still better chyarecter than whole V cast cobined
All these years and I still can't find a good rip of the full C.R.A.S.H. theme
if blacks vanished from the planet, what sector of society would suffer?
Malt liquor sales
It's only annoying when wh*Te people do it. Unironically. The fear of BBCs is deeply ingrained in the wh*Te "man"s psyche
Dumb Black person.
>pic
the most correct man in the whole universe
More like the only sane man in the whole universe.
They're all Okinawan not black.
You just named all black people from games before things got pozzed.
Black people now are all fat ugly with zoomer haircuts but somehow act perfectly normal as if they were a white person. Almost like the only thing that makes them special is their skin color and ugly body.
>GTA V
Nah, I hate those homiehs.
Who asked?
me
it's almost as if no one cares about the genetic makeup of a character so long as they're charismatic and/or interesting
You'd still have a problem with them, the difference is most of those characters were from games that released before you became 'redpilled'. In this context, being 'woke' is the same as being 'redpilled', two sides of the same extremist coin. Japan has been just as 'woke' as the west for decades, the only difference is you know jackshit about their politics and only look at their media.
Being redpilled means you know what's really going on. Being woke means you live in an alternate reality. More and more people are being redpilled because the woke assault on society keeps getting more extreme and harder to ignore.
>Japan has been just as 'woke' as the west for decades
No it hasn't.
Tell me how I know you don't know about Japan's politics. I'll even dumb it down for you. All those anime series with an all female cast? That would be considered woke by Ganker's standards. The crossdressing men? troony shit by Ganker's standards.
Your little island society is just as guilty of being woke, no matter how much you wanna block your ears and eyes to it.
>All those anime series with an all female cast? That would be considered woke by Ganker's standards.
That is not woke.
>The crossdressing men? troony shit by Ganker's standards.
Not woke. Not troony.
>It's not gay because it's from Japan!
>It's not woke because the girls are actually cute!
LGBT is a israeli-American political movement, not a synonym for homosexuality. Not sure what the Iraq war has to do with LGBT.
>not a synonym for homosexuality
Still 'woke' by Ganker's standards. Your responses literally boil down to
>It's okay when Japan does it!
Also Miyazaki would be deemed a lefty cuck considering who was in office at the time of the Iraq War. I've seen it.
Not woke.
>It's okay when Japan does it!
Japan isn't doing it.
>Also Miyazaki would be deemed a lefty cuck considering who was in office at the time of the Iraq War.
The Iraq war was always bullshit.
But they are, according to Ganker.
No they aren't.
Nice schizophrenic tinfoil hat theory, homosexual.
They could always base a game off Yasuke.
Weebs get mad about him, but he was a retainer to Oda Nobunaga and since his life is ambiguous post-Nobunaga's seppuku you can include a bitter sweet ending where he is no longer a slave but is now a ronin living in the woods foraging to survive in a distant land where the only reason he was spared was because he wasn't deemed human.
Or where he offers his life up and they honor it so he could die along with one of the few people who showed any interest in him beyond being a tool for grunt work.
It just needs to be him mostly killing a bunch of no name grunts and no name military officers under the orders of Nobunaga anyways and hanging out with historical figures around said time for some tea and blossom viewing.
It'll be gay as frick, but it's pretty simple and not too complicated.
Ganker loved this guy.
Does no one remember him?
Everyone loves Anthony. Even Other M haters loved him.
picrel
Notice how those are all Gabe's released before you became radicalized by the alt right. You only like them still because of nostalgia
There is definitely a difference between the black characters from years ago vs the ones now. The older black characters felt like actual relatable "characters" that happened to be black. They showed that characters don't need to represent a race just to be relatable. The ones now are just all cut from the same ESG funded pandering cloth and all feel incredibly insufferable because of how transparent they are. And even if they aren't, the well has been so thoroughly poisoned by identity politics that any character be they black or female gets heat if they came out after 2014. They don't want to think that the changes they are forcing actually made things worse so they cope by placing the blame on people who can see though their bullshit and try to call us "racist".
>lists a bunch of characters that were all released before /misc/ fried his brain and turned him into a deranged reactionary
damn what a coincidence that all the based black characters suddenly stopped being created when steve bannon realized he can recruit online gamer incels for his movement
Why not name some actual characters instead of screaming at strawmen anon?
/misc/ is a reaction against the world you created.
>when steve bannon realized he can recruit online gamer incels for his movement
Never happened.
Not completely incorrect, hysteria is certainly a "reaction" I suppose. Tell us the story about Blackrock and EGS again buddy.
It's not hysteria.
>Tell us the story about Blackrock and EGS again buddy.
What happened to your anti-capitalism?
>N-no it's not...
Oh wow, already broken huh?
You seriously have to ask when I was quite clear in my first post? Cmon mate I know this is hard for you but apply some basic reading comprehension and critical thinking.
I'm not "broken." I'm simply telling you the facts. What is wrong with you?
I haven't been reading the thread. Sorry if my question bothered you.
Why add "the thread"? You haven't been reading period, as is the norm.
>N-no see my statements are totally facts you know!
Bruh.
>N-no see my statements are totally facts you know!
Correct.
I went back and you weren't very clear, you said reactions to it constitute hysteria which doesn't say much about why you don't think it merits strong reaction. I just want to know your perspective.
>Tell us the story
Is kind of a dead giveaway, moron-kun. If you cannot even interpret that much, what weight do you think your opinions hold?
I don't have an opinion I just wanted yours, that's why I asked directly instead of inferring it. I have gathered that you don't think blackrock and esg are real. Thank you.
>I don't have an opinion
Being unable to think straight and not having an opinion aren't the same thing mate.
>I have gathered
Wow, finally figured it out after I basically spelled it out to you huh? Give yourself a pat on the back lad, you earned it.
Since you bring it up to make light of it I'm curious what you think of it. Are you ok with it because you think it's factually inaccurate or because you think what they're doing is good?
see
It's fine if she's cute and enjoyable as a character.
sazh fricking sucked though.
nobody gave two shits about his moronic son, so his entire arc and character is pointless because it entirely revolves around his son
Best black videogame character ever. Try me, b***h.
He has a white girlfriend right? or is that someone else.
Frick no. Mike's better than that shit.
Baste. He's not even a stereotype except for Voodoo.
>English major
>failed out and lies to his parents while he works as a cabbie to make ends meet
>some gangster gets killed and leaves drug money in his cab
>takes money and buys his family nice things
>they all get murdered and he becomes a slave to a Voodoo priest
the old black guy from tekken was pretty cool, too bad his meta made him completely abhorrent.
I’m playing FFXIII right now and it’s fricking hilarious how Sazh being a normal guy who reacts to situations in a relatively normal way and speaks in a straightforward manner is treated like comedic relief while everyone else is acting like a a chuuni. Like everyone else is acting like an edgy or obnoxious kid who’s LARPing and Sazh is just here speaking in proper sentences and being really clear about what he means. No putting his hand on a door and saying he’s sorry to get it to open
Basically you're saying we like them when they're good characters with effort put in and not just ESG bloating score.
>no Barret
>liked female black char before it was cool/bad
>finally making my anime like waifu game
>don't agree with most of left politic stuff
>not woke enough for twitter/reddit
>woke enough for Ganker
What could possibly go wrong?
I like Barret Wallace and Bruce Irvin and Eddy Gordo
Nice list but no, I hate it when black characters are in games.
Nah, it's fine.
The real problem is that brown women are literally crying because there aren't enough sexy brown girls in entertainment.
Why won't people help them solve this problem.
>*sexualize brown woman*
>"why do I hear rock music"
wtf is even a "brown woman"? these people are more filled with race categorizing bullshit than /misc/
Women who aren't black, white, or asian.
It's a catch-all term to try and get various non-white groups on the same side. Otherwise old ethnic hatreds would divide them and make it harder to pander to them as a political demographic.
I miss fricking hijaby student muslim girls in the ass. I'm close to be married, now :/
Most indian women are ugly, sadly. Which is a shame because those who are attractive are rare.
turns out you need to write more character than "is a Black person" if you want people to like it. being black is a negative character trait.
My bro Vic and maybe Lance
>there may be an alternate universe where there's a GTA with Tommy and Vic as the protags
>they have a Crockett and Tubbs-like relationship but as villain protagonists/antiheroes.
This is the wrong timeline
the audience can just sniff out a shit character instantly. game writers never give the players any credit.
Inb4 ASShomosexualS
>Jacob from ME
nobody loves jacob from ME
If I got only three wishes from a genie one of them would be that Sazh and his chocobo were real and on Earth and that he would want to be friends with me.
I GOT A ZOMBIE ARMY
AND YOU CAN'T HARM ME
Dead Island was a shit game
No it's fun.
I just hate being reminded black "people" exist.
Touch grass
Black folk are outside. frick that. think im trying to be a victim of their "games"?
>Except we love characters like:
Speak for yourself.
Please.
>Cole Train from Gears
Annoying flat character that panders to 13 year old white kids in suburbs
>Jacob from ME
Awful
>Jacob from GTA V 4
Awful
>Franklin from GTA V
Awful, you could tell they didn't want to turn him into a stereotype, which makes him an unfun nig
>Lamar from GTA V
Awful, but at least he has some memes.
>Sheva from RE5
The amount of porn for Sheva means she is one of the least liked females. So not sure what you mean by LOVE
>Sazh from FFXIII
Awful
>Louis from L4D
Awful
>Coach from L4D2
Awful
>Big Bo from Binary Domain
Awful
>Rodin from Bayonetta
Super Awful
>Anderson from ME
No one likes or even cares or even remembers this guy.
>CJ from GTA:SA
You're playing a stereotype of nigs, which is awesome. He's not cool, but the act is hilarious. It's not so much CJ just the idea. Same as Big Smoke. So many quotable lines.
>Sgt. Johnson from Halo
First off, it's CPL, SSG, or SGM depending on his rank at the time. You can also say just say Sergeant. He's pretty much the only based and cool black character on your list. He's Honorary and no longer considered a black character.
from RE5
>The amount of porn for Sheva means she is one of the least liked females. So not sure what you mean by LOVE
pathetic coomer. what a shit metric to use.
>coach
>awful
Kys
Coach has the personality of a 50 year old macdonald's cashier who will die of an overdose after being fired.
That isn't cool or heartwarming. It's trash.
Being overweight and bald isn't a good thing no matter how much you tell yourself it's fine.
>That isn't cool or heartwarming.
No, but it's familiar and funny. Coach is likable because he's just a guy.
>likable because he's just a guy.
cop out for bad writing
characters are meant to be someone, if your character is the average american then that's already a failure in making a good character.
And this answer is a cop out for autism. If you can't detect character nuance in a seemingly ordinary character, then you're a bad reader/player.
Kys
I think when OP said "we" he meant a general assumption of the more reasonable Ganker posters, not drooling morons.
Speak for yourself is right. Wipe off your chin.
Johnson is basically Apone from Aliens and Dylan from Predator crammed into one character.
Suicide
For me, it's Shinobu Jacobs
This thread just makes me realise that Jacob is apparently the first name devs think of when it's time to create a black character
Sazh is literally the best character in that fricking atrocious game.
I know you don't want to hear this OP but most of the characters you listed are gangsters, characters with personalities inspired by blacksploitation media and walking stereotypes
Honestly, the only good examples there are Anderson, Sazh, Louis and Jacob (ME)
>but Jacob was boring
He was but he wasn't anything I said above
What stereotype is Sheva?
Sheva is a little trickier
I like her, but as expected of Japanese developers at the time, she gets used through her (admittedly hot) Robin hood and "tribal" outfits
The people in previous threads entirely dedicated to Sheva are right when they say Capcom could not release a game like RE5 with their execution of Sheva again today, which is why they've completely dropped her
Eh, the tribal outfit would be dropped for sure, but I could see them bring her back without any other changes. That Red Riding Hood outfit was her best one, though.
Jacob was abandoned by just father so he could spend his life raping mind controlled women on a jungle planet. If that ain’t the niggest then I don’t know what to tell you dude
So are 99% of black dudes you meet. It'd be nice to have a few other types represented though. For example, the rare Nigerian immigrant whos super upbeat and hardworking (and not a rapist).
>CJ from GTA:SA
Yes
>Cole Train from Gears
Yes
>Jacob from ME
Frick no
>Jacob from GTA V 4
Yes
>Franklin from GTA V
Meh but sure
>Lamar from GTA V
Yes
>Sheva from RE5
Yes
>Sazh from FFXIII
Yes
>Louis from L4D
Yes
>Coach from L4D2
Yes
>Big Bo from Binary Domain
Dunno
>Rodin from Bayonetta
does he do anything at all beside act as a storefront?
>Sgt. Johnson from Halo
Should have been the first example. A resounding YES
>Anderson from ME
Yes
Also where the frick is Barret? OP really thought of Jacob from Mass Effect but not Barret?
Cole Train was a great character. Super accurate too, every bluecollar job I ever worked had at least one cool ass Black of the same stripe. He was just like the guys I played ball with too. Acted and sounded like real black dude, while not being a nog.
Almost as if they were fleshed out thought about characters and not some shoe-in diversity checklist like every other game does now days. I don't mind as long as they are well written, and there entire character is revolved around being black.
Did people actually like Sazh or was he just the least-intolerable member of the cast?
He was the only down to earth good guy in the entire cast that didn't suffer from brain damage like Vanille. Dude just wanted to get his son back.
I love this dude's design.
Not just his design, but he's a pretty cool character too.
>He literally goes on a ramble on why Onigiri is the perfect food in the middle of a fight
Pretty sure nobody here likes Franklin from GTA V. He spends the entire game going
>gotta get muh paper
and doesn't really learn anything or change. He's basically just an observer to the Michael And Trevor Show
I dont see skin color I see mentality
those were not forced or added with any political intention behind them. they were added because they were cool
What do we think of Jax? I think he was probably the best black character in a game until later when they started making him wear durags and talking jive.
>Franklin from GTA V
Literally the worst character in the entire franchise
Just don't do it in a cringey way.
yeah, Ganker didnt start whining about minorities in video games until muh culture war garbage infested the site, as evidenced by the fact that almost every game in your list is at least a decade old. What's your point? That Ganker is full of shit?
best character in the game once you get the hang of his skills and preferred teammates synergies. actually made game fun. would have quit much earlier otherwise so thanks token black man.
>We.
No thats (You).
The only one for me is picrel.
>we
Talk about scraping the barrel