You know what's fucked up? There are people who actually killed Dwayne.
You know what's fucked up? There are people who actually killed Dwayne.
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Playboy gave me a cellphone earlier in the game, Dwayne was only expecting handouts
Playboy was a sellout. He was basically just another version of Dimitri.
Even Playboy X acknowledges you're fucked up if you kill Dwayne.
Playboy is the one who hires you to kill him it's a little late for second thoughts after the fact
Also Playboy literally offered Dwayne whatever he wanted when they first met up after his release, but all he did was whine whine whine.
All of it was Dwayne's to begin with Playboy took his house and all his business interests when Dwayne went to jail.
So the better option was to let it all get taken away by the feds? Playboy was doing Dwayne a solid and kept things running so when Dwayne got out he would reap its rewards.
Except Playboy ghosted Dwayne the entire time he was inside and never wanted him back
Not surprised with how much of a mopey gay he is. He'd just keep moaning about everything Playboy did while behind bars and keep moaning when he gets out.
i love dwayne, playboy is a fucking moron
What's REALLY fucked up is that you can't take Playboys hoodie.
both were retarded
Dwayne is deluded and thinks world stopped for his sake while he was in jail, playboy owed him nothing but still gave him territory and business as a fresh start and that was not enough
Playboy acts all prissy and mighty when you kill Dwayne who was about to go down and kill him, he also didn't really talked things over with him resulting in Dwayne nearly going postal on him
wrong
>kill dwayne
>you have to live with the guilt
>kill playboy
>dwayne pesters you with his sob story for the rest of the game
>Promises to keep the cops and wanted level away from your ass if you kill his brother
>Does Nothing
what? it does work if you call him while wanted
So I was a retard all along. Wow.
No you weren’t. If I recall correctly Francis was very bugged. Sometimes he’d stop answering the phone forever.
Now that you say it, indeed it could have been something like that. After all, I have not played this game since 2009/2010.
He becomes unavaible after you beat the game (or maybe earlier)
Anon, you just admitted you could be wrong about something. You're the least retarded person on this website
you have to give him a call if you want his service
>always thought Francis vs Derrick was a nobrainer (if you consider Packie)
>recently saw some interesting theories that show that Derrick might have betrayed his brother
It's almost like he was a terrible person or something
True. I only let him live on my second playtrough to see what happens.
this one is the most fucked up, you infiltrate their family, fuck their sister, kill one of the brothers on a whim, and then act like you didn't have any involvement any time packie brings it up
Don't forget that their sister dies in an attempted hit on niko if you pick the correct ending
the whole McReary ordeal is sloppy plot wise, the characters are good but the execution is messy, i like the idea of Niko working for each family member and how each one has their own fucked up self interests but Niko willing to kill one of the brothers while also keeping in friendship with Packie is such a fucked up thing to do moral wise that feels completely out of character for him to agree to it. in the game Niko is usually the one with the moral highground across characters but that whole plotline is extremely bizarre for him, then you got Kate who feels like an anomaly and evidence of developers pussing out by not having Roman dying to be the only ending, if you skip all the dating stuff with her shes essentially a cardboard cut out.
Niko works with Johnny multiple times and doesn't tell him he whacked his best friend and basically started a gang war either.
Billy started the gang war. Play the Lost and Damned DLC
Niko kills that Jason guy for Faustin but the hit gets blamed on the angels of death and it escalates from there
Even before that Billy broke the truce Johnny had with the angels
You’re remembering it wrong. Niko killed Jim AFTER the failed mission at the museum. Before that he and Johnny only worked once when you met up with him with Playboy X.
Didn’t Packie know you dealt with Francis though? That said it’s fucking stupid if Niko not to tell Packie about the Derrick vs Francis thing.
>Nikp
>Moral highround
Are you high or something?
>fuck their sister
You can fuck her? How many dates does it take?
You can't fuck her, it's really funny, she will keep treating you as a friend but if you choose the Deal ending she will scold you for being greedy and ends up cutting any contact with you because she dont wanna raise children without a father, its the blueball of the century
>Didn’t Packie know you dealt with Francis though?
He does, but i was talking more about when you attend the funeral with him and Packie keeps ranting about Derrick or Frank during the funeral mission and Niko casually attends the funeral and drives the hearse. It's really funny and bizarre
>He does, but i was talking more about when you attend the funeral with him and Packie keeps ranting about Derrick or Frank during the funeral mission and Niko casually attends the funeral and drives the hearse. It's really funny and bizarre
True though to be fair I doubt Niko would want to disclose that fact while they are being attacked by angry Albanians. That said he never mentions it to Packie even when they hangout.
As for Kate you’re right. She is supposed to be the right one for Niko but she essentially friendzones you but treats you like garbage over the deal ending.
She was obviously going to fuck you after marriage (as it should be). It's just that she dies before that.
Crazy that I still remember this game so clearly. Never liked it that much, but I don't remember anything from V outside of Lamar. I even remember the DLCs for IV.
V had an incredibly convoluted storyline with all the glow agencies and trevor's return, Dave, the billionaire guy etc.
Trevor was so based
"YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT VERY NICE"
Trevor was fine as long as he was kept away from his hillbilly cheerleaders and put against characters who weren't terrified of his presence. His supporting cast was the worst in any GTA game, Chef was the only decent one and he barely showed up unless you took him along on heists.
I agree his goons were the worst (wade and mr beta cuck whatever his name was)
>helping a prison bitch
do you want that bussy too?
Why is this game so depressing? Even gunning down playboy in an alley way left me with a disturbed feeling.
the whole theme of the game is pain, those who feel it versus those who deny it. game's got a big focus on hypocrisy
The whole game deals with Niko slowly returning to the life he was trying to escape, through his journey he keeps meeting people or motifs that parallel his past, you get the Playboy X case where is someone chasing wealth and glory while using everyone around him, which reflects on Niko bitterly mentioning how most of his life hes been used as a pawn for a war, or for criminal doings, then you get the more obvious stuff like Derrick who was someone who also sold out people he worked with, just like the man Niko is chasing. The entire plot of GTA IV is Niko making the same mistakes he made before and going through similar events than the ones in his youth, only this time he ultimately pays the price by losing a loved one
it's the one GTA that doesn't glorify crime. even the characters who "made it" are miserable, nervous wrecks.
For me it's the part where you kill or spare Darko
Neither choice resolves anything
At least you don't get to hear him thanking you if you choose the latter. That "Thank you." is the one thing preventing me to do the former, really pissed me off for some reason.
Dwayne was a bitch ass bro
did anyone else know there's a hidden gang in GTA 5 free roam? They'll attack you if aggroed like the mexican and black gangs.
Its these old Armenians or russians in leather jackets at the junk yard
This game was so forgettable, I forgot who I chose to kill.
Of all things, IV is the opposite of forgettable.
honestly, killing dwayne wouldn't be such a bad option if playboy didn't give you the cold shoulder after. dwayne wanted to die, does fuck-all with his life after you kill playboy, so if not for the penthouse why else would you spare dwayne?
Dwayne continues to manage the strip club you got back for him
Dwayne
>Whiny bro
>Always moping
>Wants the world to grind to a halt because of him
>Wants Playboy to roll over and let him run things again
>Is a wreck before and after the choice, gains nothing to keep on living
>Gets cucked by bikers because he's such a bitch
Playboy X
>More fun bro
>Gives you money and a phone
>Hooks you up with work
>Had to keep the wheels turning after Dwayne got busted
>Gives Dwayne money and chunk of his business, not good enough
>Cuts you out of his life due to killing a former friend and partner
I've never felt Dwayne was the right choice. The fact the game wants you to do so for 100% angers me. They try to make it a money vs principle choice but I never cared about the material gain for doing so.
Well Niko literally says " I don't want to kill Dwayne" and he tells Dwayne he reminds him of himself, that was the game telling you killing Dwayne was the wrong choice.
moron, the only reason you support playboy is because you are a gay like him, fucking pussy.
>Cuts you out of his life due to killing a former friend and partner
All good up until here to be real, because HE HIRES YOU TO KILL HIM
I never got why he would feign dismay that you killed Dwayne until I was older and realized some people are pieces of shit and will always do anything to save face and look good, will always sellout and look out for themselves. Its thematically very fitting because its the world Nico is in and arguably who he can be
I spared Dwayne because he's le cool edgelord
Did anyone else kill Dwayne's ex? I refuse to allow cuckshit in my save.
I would kill all of them. They are all low-life thugs. It's the code of the street. You know what you are getting into.
I just killed playboy cuz I wanted his crib homie.
Yeah it's the best safehouse in the game imo. You can also play pool with your friends there
don't care about either of these morons. gunna go shoot pool with my boy Little Jacob. simple as.
i killed dwane bcuz niko always says that he needs money, and he is a paid hitman, so...
retrasado basado
Niko says he needs money but there's nothing to actually buy
not only that, every apartment and car he gets for free kek
whats with all the gta4 shilling lately? is it up next for the remaster trend?
you wouldnt get it, you need good taste first.
>discussing about a game is shilling
your brain on Ganker
People wanna talk about good games, what's the problem with that?
GTA IV is one of the few games Ganker can almost sort of kind of unanimously agree is good. Get some taste
Not really, everybody on Ganker argues about how if 4 or 5 is better in every thread they appear in
literally the only people who still care about 5 are onlinefags.
>forced updates because of GTAO shit
>barely any mods cause no one wants to get sued
T2 went out of their way to make V SP as shit as possible
i always hated that these choices in gta4 always had one that was clearly the more advantageous one while the other was complete fucking shit
>kill dwayne and you get a small amount of money but killing playboy gies you a safe house, a new friend ans said friend gives you the most fun social favor in the game
>killing the junkie irish brother allows you to call of the cops every now and then while killing the irish cop gives you nothing
Also from what i seen here in a thread many months ago that last mafia guy that you work with was supposed to be an unlockable friend as well but they cut it
>killing the junkie irish brother allows you to call of the cops every now
You can also get an additional 20k from Francis if you call him before you take out Derrick
yeah but that is pennies, money and weapons are never a problem in gta 4
I agree I wish there was more stuff to spend money on
I killed him because I didn't want that crack smoking parasite in my life. Playboy fucks off and leaves you alone.
killing dwayne is canon fags
I killed Dwayne in my first playthrough back in 2008. I think because he just seemed so depressed and miserable.
First playthru I was young, and Playboy says he's got your back and he pays you out big time. End of game I got the money achievement so that was cool
I knew I made a mistake and rectified it second playthru. Me and Dwayne would play pool later and the uptown apartment is way better than the money