This isn't a twitter thread, this is a "you will literally lose all your PS5 games when Sony shuts down its online service" thread. And that's when, not if.
>World is on brink of destruction, OP finds out his house will be hit by a nuclear warhead > but it was on twitter so he didn't took it seriously > OP is dead now
>There must only be like 6 or 7 PS5 games to preserve? Is anyone going to be playing Returnal or Forbidden West is thirty years?
Snoyggers think so. lol
When I see that list of PS5 games posted, I do always say in my head 'Returnal is probably a good game ' but I've never played it kek. Demon's Souls, Returnal and I really think that's it. I should buy Returnal honestly, it's a shame how it's being overlooked by everybody when God of War still gains all this praise alongside Naughty Dog garbage and Sucker Punch take 20 years to make a new game, but they've still yet to make a shit game which is amazing. It's a pain I have to explain to people how I got my PS5 without spending much of anything really, just because it's embarrassing owning one where it's got zero games on the horizon. I also need to clean it out since it sounded like a jet engine the other day on YouTube fucking suddenly and I could hear it from downstairs pretty loud
>I think he means after you format the disc you brick it and can't reuse it.
no, that's not the point, you CAN re-register it at the moment, the tweet is saying that when PS5 online shuts down in the future it will make the disk drives unregistrable at all....unless sony just patch it in as part of the EoL transition
A hardware ID can be copied to any number of locations in the console firmware. They could prevent this from happening even with a factory reset, but here's what we get.
Think of what happens after snoy deletes the servers, you'd have to keep your PS5 intact if you ever want to play a game in the future. This also means you can't just put another SSD in it after the servers get shutdown, because the software can be acquired from sony's page but it needs to authenticate the drive, and with the servers down it can't.
It means, if you buy an old console, that's has a detachable blueray. Chances are the previous owner did a factory reset and thus the blueray drive won't work
(Even though it was previously registered)
og xbox has the same kinda drm but without online. the console and drive have a matching hardware id so that drive only works with that specific console and vice versa. this kind of drm is nothing out of ordinary.
Sony must be in panic mode. Watching big tech go to the moon while they missed yet another bubble. It's so fucking over for them, they will never catch up.
If you have a problem with that, then stop buying a cheap disc drive. There is a permanent solution - https://www.easefab.com/resource/play-blu-ray-with-vlc.html
lazy fucker
thanks for his, maybe I'm just retarded but I bought a BluRay drive a few years back and couldn't get it to work. all I could find was people shilling codecs and players I had to pay for and gave up.
not sure why tons of retards replied to this post without understanding it.
without paying for licensed blu-ray player software, you can only play blu-rays other people dumped the decryption keys for. if you want any blu-ray to work when you put it in as in a real player, you need to pay up.
it is not cracked nearly as thoroughly as DVD. everyone who replied "wdym just plug in le blu-ray drive" has not actually tried watching blu-rays on their PC.
Honestly yeah, blu ray being kneecapped out of the ass with protection shit from day one did it no favors. Along with the prices, of course. While DVD players usually had a secret code it was fucking impossible to try and get your hands on something that could play a out of region blu ray back in the day and it still is. Now it's basically redundant in the age of streaming, I'm thinking HD-DVD should have won.
corporations shouldn't be allowed to be so anti-consumer just because piracy exist. What you gonna do once they start harnessing AI to crack on piracy? AI doesn't get tired or sleep, so you can be sure it will end it.
>connect drive >install free software (it's free and genuinely works no waiting for decryption keys) >play movie
No internet required after you have the software installer unlike the pisstation
This is also dumb because when people hack and pirate games on the PS2, PS3, PSP, PS Vita they don't use the disk drive any more. Well I guess Vita player do use the drive but that is just for bigger memory cards.
This will do nothing to stop piracy, a hacked Vita pirates all its games straight from the psn store, lol.
They use the disk drive to update to the necessary firmware. This also hinders people who buy used because these consoles will be formatted and then demand an update as you go online.
i actually dont have a problem with companies taking some measures to protect against piracy, but it needs to be fair to the consumer as well. If they had their way you'd only be able to rent the console and only be allowed to play a game once before having to buy it again. Digital distriution and patching has caused immeasurable damage to the human race.
If I want to play OG Brood War, I can. And probably till the end of time. I can't play the remaster if I don't connect to the internet for thirty days in a row.
There should be like a statute of limitations at which point a game gets released as source code in a controlled manner.
>Digital distriution and patching has caused immeasurable damage to the human race.
A lot of games wouldn't even exist if not for digital distribution giving them a viable market.
>There should be like a statute of limitations at which point a game gets released as source code in a controlled manner.
There is. It's death of the creator + 75 years (you can thank Michael Rodent for that additional 75 years).
They probably would, it was just be slightly more costly to distribute, but you would have more publishers like the old days releasing them.
These kinds of arguments can only come from consolefags who know nothing about the industry. There are more fucking hentai games being sold on dlsite than entire libraries of classic consoles. A single fucking store, of a single fucking genre, already has more options than entire consoles from 15 or more years ago.
The idea that today's reality would exist in a physical world shows total ignorance. There isn't even enough fucking storage space to hold so many games. What lovers of pieces of plastic with encrypted digital data want is the return of a reality where 3 or 4 mega corporations control all the production and distribution of games. It's a form of cuckolding directed at the act of consuming products.
Learn: it's not the way that media is disseminated that matters, it's the way that people use to try to protect copyright. What we need is for copyright holders to trust in the good faith of consumers instead of adopting draconian measures to try to control them.
How can we get the money from the minuscule amount of pirates that might actually buy our product? >Option A: Improve the service >Option 2: Take a machete to the hamstrings of our actual paying customers
ironic because i'm a collectorfag who'll pay Limited Run €60 to wait a year to have a physical copy shipped to yurop when the game is already free on PSN. this only makes it more likely i'll jailbreak it and stop buying dozens of new games every year.
>PS1
Can use tonyhax. Needs to run on each boot >PS2
DVD hack allows playing copies. This can serve as an entrypoint to install FMCB or other stuff, for a more permanent 'jailbreak' >Dreamcast
Revisions 0 and 1, MIL-CD exploit, you can run anything >Dreamcast again
Official Action Replay disc that came with a magazine somehow booted normally on the consoles, and it basically served as a boot disc in order to launch anything >Gamecube
PSO exploit - also requires the network adapter but you do need the disc drive to work in order to boot PSO in the first place. Can serve as an entrypoint for a more permanent hack
>Through the game slot
Uh, Nintendo DS? Pretty much all of them, even the 3DS up to certain fw version with those shitty gateway cards?
Indeed. It does have a secondary requirement like the Wii though, in the form of a modified USB adapter or a memory unit with the hacked save already present.
Basically you just buy a cheap gameshark or xploder or whatever, I used Splinter Cell iirc and it was easy, from there you can install everything else with the RockyV disc. Love my xbox hueg
>Through the disc drive
>PS1
Can use tonyhax. Needs to run on each boot >PS2
DVD hack allows playing copies. This can serve as an entrypoint to install FMCB or other stuff, for a more permanent 'jailbreak' >Dreamcast
Revisions 0 and 1, MIL-CD exploit, you can run anything >Dreamcast again
Official Action Replay disc that came with a magazine somehow booted normally on the consoles, and it basically served as a boot disc in order to launch anything >Gamecube
PSO exploit - also requires the network adapter but you do need the disc drive to work in order to boot PSO in the first place. Can serve as an entrypoint for a more permanent hack
>Through the game slot
Uh, Nintendo DS? Pretty much all of them, even the 3DS up to certain fw version with those shitty gateway cards?
For PS2 you also want mechapwn so you can play PS1 backups, would suggest that over tonyhax if you have a PS2 around as it's just a one time thing
Oh yeah, how could I forget the Wii... technically you also do need an SD card with a .dol file to load, but it is a hack that's initiated through the disc drive. >Twilight Hack >Smash Stack >the pwns series (Lego games) >Eri Hakawai (Tales of Symphonia DotNW) >Yu-Gi-Owned/Vah (YGO5Ds)
i actually dont have a problem with companies taking some measures to protect against piracy, but it needs to be fair to the consumer as well. If they had their way you'd only be able to rent the console and only be allowed to play a game once before having to buy it again. Digital distriution and patching has caused immeasurable damage to the human race.
If I want to play OG Brood War, I can. And probably till the end of time. I can't play the remaster if I don't connect to the internet for thirty days in a row.
There should be like a statute of limitations at which point a game gets released as source code in a controlled manner.
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this has nothing to do with piracy it has everything to do with needing to buy overpriced Sony harddrives.
I will not buy games that cost more than 40 dollars
I will not buy games that do not go on discount after being out for 5+ years
I will not buy games from companies that have shitty practices
I will not buy games where I need to spend time detrannyfying and decolorizing the game to make it playable
This is why PC will always be king.
You don't get it. If you buy a slim that includes the drive, it still has to be activated online. It's treated the same as if you bought the console and drive separately and connected them for the first time.
>it was found out that the c-battery in Ps4 and PS5 consoles would eventually burn out, and validation of game purchases was based solely on this >if your c-battery didn't work, your games go poof, even if you bought them physical >even if you got a new c-battery, it's not registered on sony's network, so you couldn't fix the problem >sony refused to fix this until everyone got on their case
Not even sure. Sony said they pushed a fix, but they're scummy Moloch-worshipping creatures from the abyss, so I'd take their word with a grain of salt.
>consoles >the poor mans computer
Consoles don't even have the advantage of being cheaper anymore. The PS5 costs $500. You CAN build a good gaming PC for about that much.
Sony wants a full control. "Rules for thee and not for me." If something fucked up, then all Sony can say "Too bad. Time to buy the new console, which will restrict you even more!" :^)
oh drat! i knew i shouldnt have gotten my ps5 slim shipped to the north pole! my flight lands tomorrow and i'll be stationed inside an igloo observing polar bear and inuit for the next 9months, woe, is m,e i wont be able to watch my 4k blu ray of the princess bride until next summer!
Retard, this means when the ps5 servers shut down in 15 years and your ps5 needs a reset of any kind and/or you need to get a new one, you cannot, all your physical games will become literal paperweights and the store will eventually close like the ps3s, so Ur ps5 will be a paperweight as well
But then again it's not like snoydrones actually have an ounce of self respect and will literally buy and piece of planned obsolescence Sony will shit at them just like iPhone users
again retard, if u go digital only, good luck trying to get access to any of ur games after the servers shutdown, should u have the need to reset ur console due to any software issue, or buy a new one
now instead of having one alternative for long term through physical, u got no alternatives and you still act like a win ala classic snoydrone
They had this for Genesis and SNES, never officially released but had ads in magazines, called Jukebox or something where you could plug in like 16 carts and swap with buttons like a jukebox could with records. Cool as shit, i would have bought one.
My PS4 died and I was gonna wait for the PS5 Pro but it's probably gonna have the same disc drive Drm bullshit too, so I might as well buy a phat PS5 tomorrow then. Also this is looking like it will be the last console I'll buy. No more consoles for me. They are completely pointless now.
It seems chonk PS5 are the last breed of Sony consoles capable to survive factory reset and still be able to read discs without calling home. What a shame.
Are these normies here, in this very room with us? I have two same 6 TB HDD fully stacked with PS4 and PS5 games, all patched to the last versions.
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Most normies are not tech savvy. They won't bother googling or research. They would be pissed af cuz they can't play the games on thier PS5 in the future.
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>Are these normies here, in this very room with us?
They are out there, not willing to buy a disk from you that doesn't function. Enjoy your paperweight. (You don't own it)
ps5 already has a homebrew shop up for the hacked models. i'm sure pirates will be able to get all that content in the future if sony ever takes everything down. but average consumers that wouldn't want to do that? they're super fucked.
I went for PC right after the PS2 generation, never bought any console after that. Rather than keep being a good SNOY, you should've learn to make your own fun yourself.
Why do people say dumb shit like this? Just build the pc slowly or save money. Anon just said it's going to be his last console, might as well start and build a library.
DAILY REMINDER TO IGNORE TENDIE PROPAGANDA
Paid bing bing shills are trying to hurt the sales of the PS5 because its destroying the shitch in sales and games
no one wants to see sony succeed, and you shouldn't either
they've been treating their fans like battered housewives for the past decade
there's actual proof they outsourced the narratives for their exclusives to woke consultation firms
Video games are going to only be cloud and subscription based before long. And the cattle will eat it up since it's so convenient like Netflix and Spotify!
Didn't xbuck get crucified for trying to do this shit? Why aren't the journos pissing and shitting their pants now?
Not even a console owner but god damn it really is ok when Sony does this shit isn't it?
Those who care about this will shit on Sony as well. It's not about pledging to some company, it's about ability to play your games. If there is no ability - it's over.
>trying
xbone did this like 10 years ago and nobody noticed because it looked based and pro-consumer compared to the "no used games allowed ever" policy
All the people that cared during the Xbone/PS4 launches when that stuff was going down have smartly moved to PC by now. Everyone left on consoles will eat shit with a grin.
But I'll still be able to find games on the internet as long as there's an internet. When sony/microsoft drop support for a console it's worthless if it can't even play discs.
>Didn't xbuck get crucified for trying to do this shit?
Nope, noone cares about Xbox DRM schemes. You can't even turn on an Xbox console for the past decade without downloading and installing a mandatory firmware update.
It was even worse on Xbone launch because it was also region locked at the time so if you were outside of the like six countries the console launched in you had a paperweight.
I want to believe that they just don't know about it yet, cause the other conclusion is that they really are Sony shills, to such an extent that they don't care.
Since you cannot format the system, doesn't this mean you can never buy it used?
Was over at a friends house to watch a movie, he had a PS3 for a blueray player. It couldn't play the movie without updating the system, I didn't even know PS3 still had that kind of access.
Blu-ray AACS keys change regularly and all Blu-ray players need periodic updates to keep reading new discs. This system is the only reason Sony still updates the PS3 firmware.
AACS encryption is DRM for Blu-ray discs, essentially. Not that it matters if you have $50, some hard drive space, and a little time. MakeMKV will rip Blu-rays regardless of AACS versions. If I like a movie/show/anime enough, I'll rip it with an external Blu-ray drive using MakeMKV and leave it completely uncompressed and without transcoding it, though you certainly can transcode if you're concerned about hard drive space. Certain Blu-ray drives are better for the MakeMKV ripping process, though. It's free while in beta, which it's been in for years. Still gets updated though. Have to get a new registration key from a forum page every month, or otherwise it's a $60 USD one-time purchase, which I think is pretty fair.
Blu-ray AACS keys change regularly and all Blu-ray players need periodic updates to keep reading new discs. This system is the only reason Sony still updates the PS3 firmware.
So every bluray player needs internet connection or what? Sounds like a retard design decision tbh
Blu-ray AACS keys change regularly and all Blu-ray players need periodic updates to keep reading new discs. This system is the only reason Sony still updates the PS3 firmware.
>lost my PS3 CFW because my parents wanted to watch some REALLY GAY comedy movie about a wedding
I don't know whether to laugh at crack head looking motherfucker Cerny for doing the impossible or feel sad for people who had plans to sell or share their PS5
Since you pirate it, don't you own it? No one will be able to take it away from you (outside of authorities), and outside of a drive failure or deletion, you won't just lose access to it.
Missing context. He means it won't suck in discs unless it is activated which makes sense (still shitty).
https://twitter.com/GenePark/status/1722440760690098617
See his previous tweet
the idea could have been decent if they just sold the machine at a loss like printers but kept the juice packets at a decent margin / quality ingredients for the sub
Isn't the hard drive soldered in? Obviously these things are not built to last. That's the whole point, they're meant to make it until the PS6 comes out.
I can imagine that PS6 would restrict its user even more and interrupt gameplay with ads. You only even play 1-2 "exclusive" games in the entire lifespan of PS6. :^)
I don't care about Xbox or playstation consoles anymore so, whatever. Also hearing more and more people saying that ps5 will be Sony's last console. Yet another reason for why i do not care.
Am I stupid or haven't Sony console pirates just used digital downloads since the PS3 anyway, if this is supposed to be an anti-piracy measure doesn't it only affect people that would 1. waste money burning games to a Blu-Ray or 2. people who actually buy discs and use the drive?
>Win previous generation by being less awful towards your customers than your competitor >Decide to get greedy and ruin consumer trust just to save a little bit of money
Did people just forget that companies have been doing shit just like this for decades and this point, and that we used to just buckle down and figure out a way to crack it?
In August 2000, statements by Sony Pictures Entertainment U.S. senior vice president Steve Heckler foreshadowed the events of late 2005. Heckler told attendees at the Americas Conference on Information Systems: >The industry will take whatever steps it needs to protect itself and protect its revenue streams ... It will not lose that revenue stream, no matter what ... Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this. We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source – we will block it at your cable company. We will block it at your phone company. We will block it at your ISP. We will firewall it at your PC ... These strategies are being aggressively pursued because there is simply too much at stake.
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What do you mean Own games? I buy a license, I guess you’d say, and download them. I have an old ps4 with 60 games on it unplugged from the internet for games at my cottage. Its a box full of games I can play whenever, so long as my (ten year old) ps4 holds out. Good quality on that ps4, lasting that long.
need to relink your PSN via another device - PS3 and Vita are legacy now with not more patches coming so that means you have to jump through some hoops for some reason.
Do you really think they made that "For The Gamers"? They were prepared to go all in with the same things Xbox One was preparing, but realized they could get a few more suckers to pay if they scrapped most of what they were preparing to do.
what happened?
ps5 is not region locked as far as I know
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Sony sued LikSang for selling import PSP's to Europe and America because they came out in Japan first and were still a few months away in the EU and NA and completely fucked over the import market. Liksang were operating in a grey area and Sony used that to win legal victories. The whole intent of suing Liksang was to put them out of business rather than seek damages.
The reason people were pissed though, was that Liksang were very, very reputable in an era where ordering online from Asia was sketchy. LikSang carried a lot of asian games, soundtracks merchandise and more that was otherwise impossible to get at the time. And they did this with really fair pricing and shipping costs compared to Playasia. Losing Liksang was a massive loss for bringing JP culture to the west.
And fuck Playasia as well for going along with Sony and kissing their ass just to get rid of their competition and then jacking up prices more.
Not riding their cocks, but isnt this only for the digital model anyway? As in if you were buying a digital version + drive. Why not just buy the version with the drive built in to it?
>It's okey when PlayStation does it
This is the best example why snoys have no brain. Disney making iron man black, snoys are crying, Sony making spiderman black, they will be defending Sony like their lives depends of that.
Can someone tell me why the disc drive can't have some sort of ID check for the system to handshake, that will be able to tell what's official Sony hardware?
How can anybody justify buying consoles post 8th gen? Even 8th was pretty bad but 9th gen are genuinely nothing but worthless dogshit that are actively trying to make it impossible for you to own your console nonetheless your games. If you actually still enjoy playing video games and you haven't switched to PC yet I can only congratulate you on a successful lobotomy.
I swear, you can just play everything with a controller. Steam has its big picture mode if you're 10/60 and computers are too complicated for you. There's no downsides. Exclusives don't even exist anymore especially with emulation.
The only console I can say is still worth having alongside a good PC is a PS2, due to how spotty its emulation still is for it regardless of how many nightly builds you tell me to download.
Darren is a notorious tendie sperg that's been active for many years. Most famous for creating a really obvious falseflagging persona that he named "eric", where he pretended to be a sony fan. Was finally caught with hard evidence against him just a couple months ago, and has been melting down ever since.
Darren is a notorious tendie sperg that's been active for many years. Most famous for creating a really obvious falseflagging persona that he named "eric", where he pretended to be a sony fan. Was finally caught with hard evidence against him just a couple months ago, and has been melting down ever since.
I'm a brainlett can somebody explain?
From the OP it seems that if you swap out your disc drive like if it's broken or something.
It will unregister.
What does that mean?
Does it mean if your disc drive dies, you can't play games anymore?
>or if the account it has been registered with is not yours
Now that you mention that, what if you share a console with a brother or something, each of you have an account... Does that mean only one of will be able to use the disc drive? That would be crazy.
I can not for the life of me find a PS5 on a jailbreakable firmware. I thought eBay of all places would be a hotbed for that but apparently not. Anyone know where to look?
It was only a matter of time, people were naive if they thought it wouldn't happen eventually.
It was even leaked that SIE were planning to do the same thing until they backed down after the XBone fiasco.
I don't get it. What did you think would happen when you formatted the PS5? You pair the device and if you wipe it, it unpairs. If you hook up bluetooth headphones to your smart phone and then you wipe your smart phone you have to repair the headphones.
>disc >past ps3
Can anyone explain me what's the point? That disc has literally nothing on it, just a loicense to download the game on your drive.
Retards literally buy empty plastic boxes and call it a physical collection (overpriced garbage).
Just hack the console, you can download it and backup your shit so eventually when official online supports shuts down you end up owning you games.
i wonder if we'll get to a point where people can pay money just to watch a number go up
cause if NFTs were just buying and owning the license to a sequence of numbers in a computer and microtransactions in general are solely for the sake of reducing play time - or worse, to skip the WAIT for rewards - then there's really nothing people won't pay for
>tfw i actually got invites to the GT Sport live events and got to meet kaz because of this game. >tfw i got possible 3000 hours out of a 50 euro purchase >but v trannies say it bad
steam is far from perfect, but to compare this service, which is just 3 years younger than the ps2, to sony's is a joke
you can still access pretty much everything you bought in 2003, meanwhile if it wasnt for all the outrage the ps3 and vita would already be full offline consoles by now (and they will definitely be by 2025)
>in the future people will try to buy old mobos/cpus just so they can watch/play classic content, as newer cpus will prevent you via hardware lock >those old mobos/cpu will also be illegal to sell on ebay and places like that and youll only be able to get them IRL with hand to hand transcations >mfw
Nope. We already have FPGAs that can perfectly replicate chips for systems basically up until the dreamcast. In another 5-10 years well likely be up to ps4. So realistically, it doesn't matter.
Sony continues to make it easier and easier to quit them. A big standout with the ps4 was specifically this issue.
Never going to buy a Sony system after having them all up to ps4.
Preservation of what? Aren't there only like 2 PS5 exclusives and they are coming to PC eventually? At least one good thing came out of Sony's collapse, any need to actually buy their consoles anymore.
Consoles never preserved shit, anyway. They're designed to be disposable. If you care about game preservation, back up your games or pirate them. Don't be afraid to become a data hoarder. It's much better than other types of hoarding.
what kinda cope is that? u can go buy a used used commodore right now and a game, both will work with no issues, and those pieces of shit are 40 years old
try the same with a ps5 in 15 years and all you'll have is a glorified paperweight
PS4 is absolutely fine. PS5 Fat is fine too. You can get them new from a factory in 2100 A.D., insert disc and play the game. Without pairing, accounts and other bullshit.
What the hell is up with Sony removing features in their consoles? PS3 loss Linux and hardware bc after the revision, Vita losses Oled after its revision, now PS5 loses its DRM free status after its revision.
They want to count drives before dithing them. To count probable loses.
What the hell is up with Sony removing features in their consoles? PS3 loss Linux and hardware bc after the revision, Vita losses Oled after its revision, now PS5 loses its DRM free status after its revision.
They know for sure this tiny little DRM trick will damage their status. But they have decided it's a fair deal: most people don't care, they will know how many drives are in actual usage out there, and when it's the good timing to cease production of discs. Simply, they shit on me for their profits.
Microshit got away with this you retard. Casuals don't even know that their last two consoles require an internet connection to initialize because the original drm setup was even worse, people were sucking their dicks for walking back that decision.
The preservation argument is a poor one. every game on every console can be downloaded, distributed, and emulated on a computer, in most cases, in a superior state than originally intended.
This argument is only brought out when people get pissed off because they finally realise they spent $600.00 on a technologically inferior proprietary paperweight.
the preservation argument is still there when ps4 doesn't emulate, hell the ps3 still barely does and only for key games
go portbeg for console games elsewhere
PC is not suitable for long term preservation due to constant hardware and software updates, which drags you forward no matter of what. Once you step away from popular titles, you will face a hell of hardware, operating systems, drivers, middle-ware like Direct X, sound and video libraries, game itself DRM. Games on consoles just work as they work at the release day.
>Once you step away from popular titles, you will face a hell of hardware, operating systems, drivers, middle-ware like Direct X, sound and video libraries, game itself DRM
all made up issues solved by Direct X itself. (arguably Dosbox or VirtualMachine at the most extreme case)
Because somebody high up at sony is an absolute fucking retard and is continually shooting themself in the foot any time they have a slight lead. Every time things are looking up for sony, they get fucking cocky and pull this retarded shit and it all comes tumbling down again.
1, Still buy consoles
2, still play games on consoles
Literally EVERY boomer on Ganker is some RTX 3080 or better PC digital-ONLY scum who may or may not own a Nintendo Switch for that they buy games for but never even play those games because they spend their home quality time on their PC because "it's more convenient" as they all say. Quite literally NO boomers cares about this, but they'll still pretend as if they do. They'll pretend like that old NES/Sega - PS3/XB360 era collection they have is being played by anyone and isn't collecting dust.
I used to support Physical but unless you spend most of your time playing on Switch there's no practicality to owning physical in 2023 and beyond.
i'm 33, own a rather shitty pc and a switch that i use solely for exercise and youtube while in bed
my most prized games are resting safely in big boxes on the shelf above my battlestation
i do indeed not give a single fuck about ps or xbawks because they hinder vidya
> Ps3 > Yellow led of death cause retarded welding for 600$ with retarded blue balls architecture > Blue ray meme only worth in capacity > Only good was free online compared to israelitesoft > Beginning of western movie games walking simulator in post apocalypse and rubber bullets j-drama also decline of jrpg and skere enix
>cannot change hardware >cannot mod games outside of ultra-moderated and censored "mod store" at best. >no anime titties >only 6 games none of which get my attention
WHY would anybody buy one instead of a gaming PC. If you care about videogames so much one should aim for the best experience imo.
the only way to preserve videogames is pirating then on pc and copying them on external hard drives.
this has been the case since at least the early ps360 days >t. full 8tb AND 16tb, with a nice 12tb on the way
Why cant we all just accept the passing of time and pretend our hoarding sensabilities will never be justified. Just because we bought too many games and have nothing else to prove our existence with than obsessing over good prices for pieces of plastic.
Buy shit, die and let your shit rott in peace. You wont be interested in the same game forever. I havent played Yoshis Island since I was 6.
In a large sense I already do but perservation has always feelt like a thin veil for people to cover up their compulisve consumerism. There is no such thing as permanence, just get your great experience and enjoy life.
>Just casually implement the thing that got Don Mattrick fired and sent Xbox into an almost unrecoverable disadvantage for 10 years
How the turn tables
microsoft is going to win the race to the bottom when they release the revised series X with no disc drive next year and no longer sell any consoles that read discs.
Thank God for piracy but seeing that cracking only gets harder and harder (and kids don't exactly bother to learn how stuff works) I wonder how much longer we will be able to have preserved games.
>sony gets big >sony gets cocky >sony does something the customers don't like >sony starts hemorrahing money and backpedals >customers come back >repeat
Yawn
A Sony spokesperson (I believe is a CEO or someone high up now) literally said they do not care about old games and have no intentions of preserving them. A spokesperson basically gave everyone the right to pirate their games and if possible reverse engineer them to be playable offline. This is the type of company Sonyfags want to support though they couldn't care less about your product after the first week.
Wow that sucks, who could have known that something Sony thrashed Xbox for trying before, Sony themselves decided to do it. That sucks. Glad I never got a PS5 now.
Anything reliant on the internet is a liability and another step away from owning your own hardware. Consequently, anyone who isn't a mouth breathing, knuckle dragging retard cares.
don't worry, sonyBlacks will defend this with their life, that's what npc's are for after all
hey mr shill paid 0.02 per post defending X corporation, i hope your family die in fire
You're one of the big reasons why gaming industry is so garbage now
By the time this becomes an issue, you will be able to play every PS5 game on emulator anyway. The only people who find this problematic are retarded console players who feel so emotionally attached to playing on console, that the idea of emulating brings them immesurable pain.
sony disc drives always had drm. When fixing bluray disc drives on ps3s you had to remember to export the chip with the id of the console along with it, because with mismatching codes it'd refuse to work
>When fixing
Yes, this is it. And if it aint broken, you can use it out of the box 100% offline and reset 10 times a day like don't care. But now in a year the only thing you will be able to buy is a console which is "broken" out of the box, and will "break" on each factory reset.
So Nintendo relies on shitty flash media, Sony and Microsoft have retarded call-home-or-get-a-brick, and the PC userbase relies mostly on Steam and Losedows.
Man, can't wait for all of these to shit the bed.
Oh sweet I sure do love a twitter thread
This isn't a twitter thread, this is a "you will literally lose all your PS5 games when Sony shuts down its online service" thread. And that's when, not if.
Yep I'll have ps8 by then 🙂
>PS5
>games
?
Retard.
>World is on brink of destruction, OP finds out his house will be hit by a nuclear warhead
> but it was on twitter so he didn't took it seriously
> OP is dead now
No matter where it was what the fuck am i supposed to do about a nuclear armageddon retard?
I'm convinced the guy who says this is an API. Same as the guy who tells everyone to go to /misc/.
disgusting
am I retarded? Is this not the purpose of a memory format?
I think he means after you format the disc you brick it and can't reuse it.
There must only be like 6 or 7 PS5 games to preserve? Is anyone going to be playing Returnal or Forbidden West is thirty years?
>There must only be like 6 or 7 PS5 games to preserve? Is anyone going to be playing Returnal or Forbidden West is thirty years?
Snoyggers think so. lol
These games are on PC, you don’t have to “preserve” anything
Returnal is pretty legitmately good. I play it every once and a while.
When I see that list of PS5 games posted, I do always say in my head 'Returnal is probably a good game ' but I've never played it kek. Demon's Souls, Returnal and I really think that's it. I should buy Returnal honestly, it's a shame how it's being overlooked by everybody when God of War still gains all this praise alongside Naughty Dog garbage and Sucker Punch take 20 years to make a new game, but they've still yet to make a shit game which is amazing. It's a pain I have to explain to people how I got my PS5 without spending much of anything really, just because it's embarrassing owning one where it's got zero games on the horizon. I also need to clean it out since it sounded like a jet engine the other day on YouTube fucking suddenly and I could hear it from downstairs pretty loud
Is anyone going to be playing some shitty creature capture in 30 years?
Turns out, yes.
Returnal is on pc. Forbidden West will if it isn't already. Not that it matters for the latter.
At least it have some temporary exclusives unlike Nintendo kek
All of Playstation’s are on Youtube day 1
BEGONE, ERIC
https://arch.b4k.co/_/search/image/yFijqgJRLBJjF5-FhBIb7A/
You can play physical PS4 discs with the PS5's disc drive and blu-ray movies
>I think he means after you format the disc you brick it and can't reuse it.
no, that's not the point, you CAN re-register it at the moment, the tweet is saying that when PS5 online shuts down in the future it will make the disk drives unregistrable at all....unless sony just patch it in as part of the EoL transition
>unless sony just patch it in as part of the EoL transition
Knowing sony.... It will not happen. :^)
Returnal is great dude so yeah I probably will.
Got the file ripped and what a boring game with the procedural dungeons softlocking you sometimes
I really like Returnal, but you don't need a PS5 to play it, it's now on PC too
A hardware ID can be copied to any number of locations in the console firmware. They could prevent this from happening even with a factory reset, but here's what we get.
Think of what happens after snoy deletes the servers, you'd have to keep your PS5 intact if you ever want to play a game in the future. This also means you can't just put another SSD in it after the servers get shutdown, because the software can be acquired from sony's page but it needs to authenticate the drive, and with the servers down it can't.
NTA, too bad. Many normies don't know that, so they would reset their PS5 for many reasons, so they will get a paperweight.
>after one of the big 3 shuts down their servers
firstly, this would never happen, secondly by then we'd have PS5 emulation. This is a dead issue.
It means, if you buy an old console, that's has a detachable blueray. Chances are the previous owner did a factory reset and thus the blueray drive won't work
(Even though it was previously registered)
You are retarded, what the fuck does a memory format have to do with permanently disabling a disc drive?
og xbox has the same kinda drm but without online. the console and drive have a matching hardware id so that drive only works with that specific console and vice versa. this kind of drm is nothing out of ordinary.
I didn't call it new, I called it retarded. Formatting my hard drive doesn't disable my USB ports either, there's no reason that should be accepted.
This is makkking me shit myself, I'm gonna go watch some family guy to calm my nerves. Fuck Sony btw.
I dunno about the shitting yourself part over video game news but I will say its based you watch family guy to calm yourself (I do that too)
Well, yeah every BR drive has DRM. Oh wait you never owned one.
Sony must be in panic mode. Watching big tech go to the moon while they missed yet another bubble. It's so fucking over for them, they will never catch up.
>Sony must be in panic mode
They literally don't give a shit.
>connect your disc drive to your PC
>it just works
>connect your disc drive to your PS5
>online registration required
your disc drive to your PC
>>it just works
Try watching a blu ray on PC you absolute retard
works on my machine
have you not build a computer in over 15 years? you know most disc drives you can buy these days are bluray drives. They're dirt cheap too.
umm.. ok?
can't you just connect this to TV?
do people actually just use playstations as blue ray players?
If you have a problem with that, then stop buying a cheap disc drive. There is a permanent solution - https://www.easefab.com/resource/play-blu-ray-with-vlc.html
lazy fucker
thanks for his, maybe I'm just retarded but I bought a BluRay drive a few years back and couldn't get it to work. all I could find was people shilling codecs and players I had to pay for and gave up.
Is this a meme I've never heard? I watch blurays on a 7 year laptop all the time and I never noticed an issue.
My 10 years old computer can easily read a blueray what's even the point? Psnagger on absoulte mindbreak.
not sure why tons of retards replied to this post without understanding it.
without paying for licensed blu-ray player software, you can only play blu-rays other people dumped the decryption keys for. if you want any blu-ray to work when you put it in as in a real player, you need to pay up.
it is not cracked nearly as thoroughly as DVD. everyone who replied "wdym just plug in le blu-ray drive" has not actually tried watching blu-rays on their PC.
No wonder blue gay its a fucking joke compared to dvds boom in the 2000s
Honestly yeah, blu ray being kneecapped out of the ass with protection shit from day one did it no favors. Along with the prices, of course. While DVD players usually had a secret code it was fucking impossible to try and get your hands on something that could play a out of region blu ray back in the day and it still is. Now it's basically redundant in the age of streaming, I'm thinking HD-DVD should have won.
wdym I just google title + blu ray torrent and it just werks :^)
corporations shouldn't be allowed to be so anti-consumer just because piracy exist. What you gonna do once they start harnessing AI to crack on piracy? AI doesn't get tired or sleep, so you can be sure it will end it.
What are they going to do? Send fucking AI death squads to russia or indonesia to shut down the servers?
>yikes what a retard response
Not even gonna bother giving you a proper response.
https://www.medianova.com/how-can-ai-be-used-to-beat-video-piracy/
I will once again ask, what are they going to do, send AI death squads to russia or indonesia? Or maybe china?
Seems to work for Nintendo
Oh really?
>connect drive
>install free software (it's free and genuinely works no waiting for decryption keys)
>play movie
No internet required after you have the software installer unlike the pisstation
>Playstation is a fucking DRM box
I FUCKING KNEW IT AND FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!
Not on my old fat PS5
This is also dumb because when people hack and pirate games on the PS2, PS3, PSP, PS Vita they don't use the disk drive any more. Well I guess Vita player do use the drive but that is just for bigger memory cards.
This will do nothing to stop piracy, a hacked Vita pirates all its games straight from the psn store, lol.
It sounds so tedious and annoying. I can emulate them on my PC easily. 4k, 120 fps, better input, mods, etc.
They use the disk drive to update to the necessary firmware. This also hinders people who buy used because these consoles will be formatted and then demand an update as you go online.
all of this is to avoid piracy
and it will come anyway sooner or later, the only people getting fucked in the ass are paying customers as always.
i actually dont have a problem with companies taking some measures to protect against piracy, but it needs to be fair to the consumer as well. If they had their way you'd only be able to rent the console and only be allowed to play a game once before having to buy it again. Digital distriution and patching has caused immeasurable damage to the human race.
If I want to play OG Brood War, I can. And probably till the end of time. I can't play the remaster if I don't connect to the internet for thirty days in a row.
There should be like a statute of limitations at which point a game gets released as source code in a controlled manner.
>but it needs to be fair to the consumer as well.
lol
lmao
>Digital distriution and patching has caused immeasurable damage to the human race.
A lot of games wouldn't even exist if not for digital distribution giving them a viable market.
They probably would, it was just be slightly more costly to distribute, but you would have more publishers like the old days releasing them.
>There should be like a statute of limitations
There is, all you have to do is wait 95 years! No problem at all.
>i don't mind developers fucking paying customers in the ass
>they just need to be more subtle about it and use lube
this is what you sound like
>There should be like a statute of limitations at which point a game gets released as source code in a controlled manner.
There is. It's death of the creator + 75 years (you can thank Michael Rodent for that additional 75 years).
These kinds of arguments can only come from consolefags who know nothing about the industry. There are more fucking hentai games being sold on dlsite than entire libraries of classic consoles. A single fucking store, of a single fucking genre, already has more options than entire consoles from 15 or more years ago.
The idea that today's reality would exist in a physical world shows total ignorance. There isn't even enough fucking storage space to hold so many games. What lovers of pieces of plastic with encrypted digital data want is the return of a reality where 3 or 4 mega corporations control all the production and distribution of games. It's a form of cuckolding directed at the act of consuming products.
Learn: it's not the way that media is disseminated that matters, it's the way that people use to try to protect copyright. What we need is for copyright holders to trust in the good faith of consumers instead of adopting draconian measures to try to control them.
How can we get the money from the minuscule amount of pirates that might actually buy our product?
>Option A: Improve the service
>Option 2: Take a machete to the hamstrings of our actual paying customers
Trick question. Pirates don't pay period
what, are they blocking all copies of okage shadow king from being ran or something?
ironic because i'm a collectorfag who'll pay Limited Run €60 to wait a year to have a physical copy shipped to yurop when the game is already free on PSN. this only makes it more likely i'll jailbreak it and stop buying dozens of new games every year.
And yet it encourages it
How many consoles have been jailbroken through the disc drive or game slot? Fucking zero. have a nice day.
>Through the disc drive
>PS1
Can use tonyhax. Needs to run on each boot
>PS2
DVD hack allows playing copies. This can serve as an entrypoint to install FMCB or other stuff, for a more permanent 'jailbreak'
>Dreamcast
Revisions 0 and 1, MIL-CD exploit, you can run anything
>Dreamcast again
Official Action Replay disc that came with a magazine somehow booted normally on the consoles, and it basically served as a boot disc in order to launch anything
>Gamecube
PSO exploit - also requires the network adapter but you do need the disc drive to work in order to boot PSO in the first place. Can serve as an entrypoint for a more permanent hack
>Through the game slot
Uh, Nintendo DS? Pretty much all of them, even the 3DS up to certain fw version with those shitty gateway cards?
Xbox Phat also had some disc based software jailbreaking through games like 007 Agent Under Fire and Splinter Cell.
Indeed. It does have a secondary requirement like the Wii though, in the form of a modified USB adapter or a memory unit with the hacked save already present.
Basically you just buy a cheap gameshark or xploder or whatever, I used Splinter Cell iirc and it was easy, from there you can install everything else with the RockyV disc. Love my xbox hueg
For PS2 you also want mechapwn so you can play PS1 backups, would suggest that over tonyhax if you have a PS2 around as it's just a one time thing
kek, the wii had loads of games with exploits you could hack the wii with, not limited to brawl and fucking lego batman
Oh yeah, how could I forget the Wii... technically you also do need an SD card with a .dol file to load, but it is a hack that's initiated through the disc drive.
>Twilight Hack
>Smash Stack
>the pwns series (Lego games)
>Eri Hakawai (Tales of Symphonia DotNW)
>Yu-Gi-Owned/Vah (YGO5Ds)
All of these use discs.
Xbox 360. Technically not a console jailbreak but a disc drive jailbreak.
And yet also encourages piracy at the same time. Funny how that works, yeah?
Congratulations retard. Now you've given me an actual incentive to pirate.
And look how it fucking backfired the last time they tried nonsense like this lmao
We know dumbass
We’ve known for decades that the only people that end up paying for these measures are the consumers
and not even vidya piracy but movie piracy
It's a sony console. What's the difference?
underrated
Piracy is a service problem.
Don't want people to pirate? Make better products.
It is a service problem tho
filtered
female posts.
this has nothing to do with piracy it has everything to do with needing to buy overpriced Sony harddrives.
I will not buy games that cost more than 40 dollars
I will not buy games that do not go on discount after being out for 5+ years
I will not buy games from companies that have shitty practices
I will not buy games where I need to spend time detrannyfying and decolorizing the game to make it playable
This is why PC will always be king.
The fucking thing might as well ship without a disc drive Jesus Christ. What a clusterfuck.
Isn't the digital slim+detachable drive more expensive than the normal PS5. Why would anyone buy this?
You don't get it. If you buy a slim that includes the drive, it still has to be activated online. It's treated the same as if you bought the console and drive separately and connected them for the first time.
Because they will retire the normal one and you won't have a choice DUH.
People spend most tome watching Blu-ray movies in the console that playing the five exclusives
After the Cbomb incident of last year, this shouldn't even surprise you.
what is this about?
Typical Sony
Quick rundown:
>it was found out that the c-battery in Ps4 and PS5 consoles would eventually burn out, and validation of game purchases was based solely on this
>if your c-battery didn't work, your games go poof, even if you bought them physical
>even if you got a new c-battery, it's not registered on sony's network, so you couldn't fix the problem
>sony refused to fix this until everyone got on their case
is it fixed?
Not even sure. Sony said they pushed a fix, but they're scummy Moloch-worshipping creatures from the abyss, so I'd take their word with a grain of salt.
>consoles
the poor mans computer quit getting dicked in the ass and get a computer already
>consoles
>the poor mans computer
Consoles don't even have the advantage of being cheaper anymore. The PS5 costs $500. You CAN build a good gaming PC for about that much.
pcs have been the rich mans console for over 10 years now
It's over. I have hundred of discs for PS5 alone already, and this outcome is not for me. I will get another fat PS5 as a backup, but... it's over.
You can just get a bluray movie player for your PC if it doesn't already include one anon.
...what the fuck purpose does this serve
Sony wants a full control. "Rules for thee and not for me." If something fucked up, then all Sony can say "Too bad. Time to buy the new console, which will restrict you even more!" :^)
oh drat! i knew i shouldnt have gotten my ps5 slim shipped to the north pole! my flight lands tomorrow and i'll be stationed inside an igloo observing polar bear and inuit for the next 9months, woe, is m,e i wont be able to watch my 4k blu ray of the princess bride until next summer!
Retard, this means when the ps5 servers shut down in 15 years and your ps5 needs a reset of any kind and/or you need to get a new one, you cannot, all your physical games will become literal paperweights and the store will eventually close like the ps3s, so Ur ps5 will be a paperweight as well
But then again it's not like snoydrones actually have an ounce of self respect and will literally buy and piece of planned obsolescence Sony will shit at them just like iPhone users
>physical games
if you really need a blu ray case for a CD key or your man cave tard display have at it but i live in the year 2023, all digital bb
again retard, if u go digital only, good luck trying to get access to any of ur games after the servers shutdown, should u have the need to reset ur console due to any software issue, or buy a new one
now instead of having one alternative for long term through physical, u got no alternatives and you still act like a win ala classic snoydrone
nice photoshop edit of an alien disc flying in the sky seen through your window retard
nintendo did it first
Wrong
nintendo has detachable disc drive?
For the N64, and it could be connected without going online.
Technically, but its not first party
Funny thing....
They had this for Genesis and SNES, never officially released but had ads in magazines, called Jukebox or something where you could plug in like 16 carts and swap with buttons like a jukebox could with records. Cool as shit, i would have bought one.
>DRM tradition
>PS5s now
Anon, it's a console, it's been DRM since day one.
yeah, tell those rabid Sony fansisters
I am so fucking thankful that I haven't wasted my time on God's green Earth trying to preserve niche computer games for future generations
My PS4 died and I was gonna wait for the PS5 Pro but it's probably gonna have the same disc drive Drm bullshit too, so I might as well buy a phat PS5 tomorrow then. Also this is looking like it will be the last console I'll buy. No more consoles for me. They are completely pointless now.
It seems chonk PS5 are the last breed of Sony consoles capable to survive factory reset and still be able to read discs without calling home. What a shame.
Yeah, but what about the day 1 patch, many patches, DLCs, hot fixes, etc from the servers Sony can shut down anytime?
Patches are preservable offline. You can copy patched game on external HDD, any number of external HDDs - and they will work on any PS5.
That method can be done, but most normies don't do that. They would reset their console, so the patches are gone forever.
Are these normies here, in this very room with us? I have two same 6 TB HDD fully stacked with PS4 and PS5 games, all patched to the last versions.
Most normies are not tech savvy. They won't bother googling or research. They would be pissed af cuz they can't play the games on thier PS5 in the future.
>Are these normies here, in this very room with us?
They are out there, not willing to buy a disk from you that doesn't function. Enjoy your paperweight. (You don't own it)
ps5 already has a homebrew shop up for the hacked models. i'm sure pirates will be able to get all that content in the future if sony ever takes everything down. but average consumers that wouldn't want to do that? they're super fucked.
To be honest, it's mostly why I just buy a Switch nowadays. My internet is very slow for 100gb of patches and the Amazon shipping is faster
HOW IS THIS LEGAL?
Per Sony, it is legal, and you don't own anything at all.
Nigga just get a PC or show Playstation they're going in the wrong direction by getting an Xbox
I went for PC right after the PS2 generation, never bought any console after that. Rather than keep being a good SNOY, you should've learn to make your own fun yourself.
Just get a pc
>Dude just pay thrice a PS5 to perform worse
Retard
More like $100 more
Why do people say dumb shit like this? Just build the pc slowly or save money. Anon just said it's going to be his last console, might as well start and build a library.
Steam deck seems to be the only console worthy this years.
It doesn't play bloodborne.
Give it a generation or two. Sooner or later it's gonna happen.
PSNOW exists
sadly it doesn't play the dlc which is the best part
>ONE DLC
>I DONT KNOW WHY
>I GOT A PS5 WITH NO GAMES BUY
lol, and the best PS5 game is a remake of a PS3 game
L
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Only to cum on it
DAILY REMINDER TO IGNORE TENDIE PROPAGANDA
Paid bing bing shills are trying to hurt the sales of the PS5 because its destroying the shitch in sales and games
no one wants to see sony succeed, and you shouldn't either
they've been treating their fans like battered housewives for the past decade
there's actual proof they outsourced the narratives for their exclusives to woke consultation firms
Oh no, all of my awesome PS5 games!
What PS games are actually worth playing that I can't play on PC? I want Ghost of Tsushima, but it's not worth buying a console for
I sold my ps5. No games, just a glorified paper weight.
Stick with pc /switch.
Video games are going to only be cloud and subscription based before long. And the cattle will eat it up since it's so convenient like Netflix and Spotify!
Every game company agrees deeply with what microsoft did with xbone they just had to wait out a decade
>implying sony deserves to have their console preserved for eternity
Oh wow good thing you can just buy the normal version instead of the poor person version and not have to worry about that.
The PS5 slim is the more expensive one anon, the issue is that they’re going to start phasing out the slim
Phasing out the fat*
I need to proof read my posts
Didn't xbuck get crucified for trying to do this shit? Why aren't the journos pissing and shitting their pants now?
Not even a console owner but god damn it really is ok when Sony does this shit isn't it?
Those who care about this will shit on Sony as well. It's not about pledging to some company, it's about ability to play your games. If there is no ability - it's over.
Journos are bought and paid for by Sony
Sony (not just Playstation) has been buying mainstream media for decades
People have been slowly fucked in the arse by game companies for the last decade now. This is just another example to add to the pile.
>trying
xbone did this like 10 years ago and nobody noticed because it looked based and pro-consumer compared to the "no used games allowed ever" policy
All the people that cared during the Xbone/PS4 launches when that stuff was going down have smartly moved to PC by now. Everyone left on consoles will eat shit with a grin.
my pc doesn't even have a disc drive. PC fags love digital only.
>my pc doesn't even have a disc drive.
And you can't get a USB disc/BD drive... why?
But I'll still be able to find games on the internet as long as there's an internet. When sony/microsoft drop support for a console it's worthless if it can't even play discs.
because journalists and "gamers" are sucking off Sony and Playstation has a cult around them, something like Apple, especially in Europe.
bogged
>Didn't xbuck get crucified for trying to do this shit?
Nope, noone cares about Xbox DRM schemes. You can't even turn on an Xbox console for the past decade without downloading and installing a mandatory firmware update.
It was even worse on Xbone launch because it was also region locked at the time so if you were outside of the like six countries the console launched in you had a paperweight.
I want to believe that they just don't know about it yet, cause the other conclusion is that they really are Sony shills, to such an extent that they don't care.
Since you cannot format the system, doesn't this mean you can never buy it used?
if you buy one that was formatted or factory restored, you just have to go online to activate it again, presumably.
Post link homosexual. Is this even real?
Yes it is. Factory reset of Slim breaks drive pairing.
https://nitter.unixfox.eu/DoesItPlay1/status/1722955470095159322
I'll just buy all the disc drives and sell them to people who format theirs.
Video games are fucking gay and retards get what they fucking deserve etc etc.
Just take a PC pill.
>three hats
All games are DRM and alwayz online on PC. This affects us all
Dont buy it and pirate
You will eventually be able to do that with a PS5.
>eventually
You'll sooner yet eventually throw the brick into the trash
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
lol how did they fuck up this bad?!
it's far from being the first time for sony, they killed the vita with retarded proprietary SD card format
wait, so it NEEDS an internet connection just so the disk will enter the console?
Was over at a friends house to watch a movie, he had a PS3 for a blueray player. It couldn't play the movie without updating the system, I didn't even know PS3 still had that kind of access.
Blu-ray AACS keys change regularly and all Blu-ray players need periodic updates to keep reading new discs. This system is the only reason Sony still updates the PS3 firmware.
Interesting, what's the reason for this? I don't even use any devices that read discs these days myself
>Interesting, what's the reason for this?
Pure coincidence you say?
AACS encryption is DRM for Blu-ray discs, essentially. Not that it matters if you have $50, some hard drive space, and a little time. MakeMKV will rip Blu-rays regardless of AACS versions. If I like a movie/show/anime enough, I'll rip it with an external Blu-ray drive using MakeMKV and leave it completely uncompressed and without transcoding it, though you certainly can transcode if you're concerned about hard drive space. Certain Blu-ray drives are better for the MakeMKV ripping process, though. It's free while in beta, which it's been in for years. Still gets updated though. Have to get a new registration key from a forum page every month, or otherwise it's a $60 USD one-time purchase, which I think is pretty fair.
https://www.makemkv.com/
captcha JJJJMW
So every bluray player needs internet connection or what? Sounds like a retard design decision tbh
yes, sony made the blu-ray technology
>lost my PS3 CFW because my parents wanted to watch some REALLY GAY comedy movie about a wedding
>you only have to connect to the internet once!
>this shit
>snoys will still defend it
I fucking hate them so much it's unreal
That explains why it went so bad in Japan I guess.
I don't know whether to laugh at crack head looking motherfucker Cerny for doing the impossible or feel sad for people who had plans to sell or share their PS5
>oi bruv you got a licence for that Disc reader ?
>Pirate games
>Pirate movies
I own nothing, but I will be happy.
Since you pirate it, don't you own it? No one will be able to take it away from you (outside of authorities), and outside of a drive failure or deletion, you won't just lose access to it.
Wait what?
>oi you got a loicence to watch that movie m8?
Missing context. He means it won't suck in discs unless it is activated which makes sense (still shitty).
https://twitter.com/GenePark/status/1722440760690098617
See his previous tweet
>this shit got over 100$ millions in funding
the idea could have been decent if they just sold the machine at a loss like printers but kept the juice packets at a decent margin / quality ingredients for the sub
stop being poor
>after formatting the memory
Just don't do that?
Sometimes consoles just borked so much, it's the last resort. And this is not uncommon.
Isn't the hard drive soldered in? Obviously these things are not built to last. That's the whole point, they're meant to make it until the PS6 comes out.
I can imagine that PS6 would restrict its user even more and interrupt gameplay with ads. You only even play 1-2 "exclusive" games in the entire lifespan of PS6. :^)
I don't care about Xbox or playstation consoles anymore so, whatever. Also hearing more and more people saying that ps5 will be Sony's last console. Yet another reason for why i do not care.
Am I stupid or haven't Sony console pirates just used digital downloads since the PS3 anyway, if this is supposed to be an anti-piracy measure doesn't it only affect people that would 1. waste money burning games to a Blu-Ray or 2. people who actually buy discs and use the drive?
>if this is supposed to be an anti-piracy measure
It's not, it's a "we want to be able to brick your purchase after the fact so you're forced to buy the next console we come up with" measure.
If this makes you stupid you can at least take consolation in not being as stupid as Sony.
Apparently the disc drive has already been hacked and used to download digital games for free.
So much for the console experience.
>using an external detachable disc drive on a console
I have never heard of anyone who does this.
are you stupid? all new ps5 have detachable disc drives
>Win previous generation by being less awful towards your customers than your competitor
>Decide to get greedy and ruin consumer trust just to save a little bit of money
Please hand the company back to japs already
I don't own a PS5 and haven't supported sony since they started censoring my japanese games back in 2018, It's literally not my problem lmao
Did people just forget that companies have been doing shit just like this for decades and this point, and that we used to just buckle down and figure out a way to crack it?
You are not alone.
A little bit of fun history about Sony's DRM practices for the zoomers!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal
In August 2000, statements by Sony Pictures Entertainment U.S. senior vice president Steve Heckler foreshadowed the events of late 2005. Heckler told attendees at the Americas Conference on Information Systems:
>The industry will take whatever steps it needs to protect itself and protect its revenue streams ... It will not lose that revenue stream, no matter what ... Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this. We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source – we will block it at your cable company. We will block it at your phone company. We will block it at your ISP. We will firewall it at your PC ... These strategies are being aggressively pursued because there is simply too much at stake.
🙂
and none of it worked
what has worked is that people just turned into cattle and stopped trying
So many people on here are mental.
>IT IS OK WHEN SONY DOES IT!
I hate snoycucks defending their beloved company, Sony.
Case in point. What are you freaking out about anyway?
Well, you better acknowledge that you never own anything on your PlayStation. Per Sony, you never own anything at all.
What do you mean Own games? I buy a license, I guess you’d say, and download them. I have an old ps4 with 60 games on it unplugged from the internet for games at my cottage. Its a box full of games I can play whenever, so long as my (ten year old) ps4 holds out. Good quality on that ps4, lasting that long.
Nigga my Gameboy and ps2 still run games like day 1, and the day it breaks Ill buy another and 0 problems.
You coping hard an anti consumer practice
>IT IS OK WHEN SONY DOES IT!
no it's not. sonybros call out sony a lot.
>sonybros call out sony a lot.
they do. that's how the cmos issue got fixed and why they didn't take down the ps3 and vita stores.
then where the fuck is the vita store?! I can't access them now.
need to relink your PSN via another device - PS3 and Vita are legacy now with not more patches coming so that means you have to jump through some hoops for some reason.
so they are not accessible to normies.
call out sony a lot.
yes because we actually use our consoles a lot for years and even decades.
What happened?
Do you really think they made that "For The Gamers"? They were prepared to go all in with the same things Xbox One was preparing, but realized they could get a few more suckers to pay if they scrapped most of what they were preparing to do.
People forget that Sony hated the used game market and were looking for ways to kill it until mtx took over.
>People forget that Sony hated the used game market
Not just USED games. Import games and systems, too. click pic related for boomer PTSD.
I have never forgiven Sony for what they did to the import market
what happened?
ps5 is not region locked as far as I know
Sony sued LikSang for selling import PSP's to Europe and America because they came out in Japan first and were still a few months away in the EU and NA and completely fucked over the import market. Liksang were operating in a grey area and Sony used that to win legal victories. The whole intent of suing Liksang was to put them out of business rather than seek damages.
The reason people were pissed though, was that Liksang were very, very reputable in an era where ordering online from Asia was sketchy. LikSang carried a lot of asian games, soundtracks merchandise and more that was otherwise impossible to get at the time. And they did this with really fair pricing and shipping costs compared to Playasia. Losing Liksang was a massive loss for bringing JP culture to the west.
And fuck Playasia as well for going along with Sony and kissing their ass just to get rid of their competition and then jacking up prices more.
>What happened?
Commiefornia that's what, back then it's still ran by Japanese
>Jack Tretton
>Shawn Layden
>Japanese
Remember when Last of us 1 you had to pay again to use the multiplayer? I think maybe mortal Kombat did it too...At least that trend died
Wow, Now they are trying to stop people from buying their shitty console used.
Heheheheheh Only Sony can make the value of their already hard to obtain/undesirable console drop to absolute zero
Not riding their cocks, but isnt this only for the digital model anyway? As in if you were buying a digital version + drive. Why not just buy the version with the drive built in to it?
It's not built in, it's just the non drive with an external drive comnected
>It's okey when PlayStation does it
This is the best example why snoys have no brain. Disney making iron man black, snoys are crying, Sony making spiderman black, they will be defending Sony like their lives depends of that.
>Disney making iron man black
That's not a thing.
They own the FTC.
>That's not a thing
Anon, I...
That's not Iron Man. That's not the gotcha you think it is.
Holy fuck I can see you at your keyboard
Are you an actual soijak
>i was proven wrong??? u r le based man!
Your concession has been noted.
What the fuck is wrong with you
A background character, I think a cop during the fight with the Mer people, does actually say "Iron Man" so they're not totally wrong.
KEK, just can't let it go?
https://screenrant.com/ironheart-riri-williams-mcu-iron-man-replacement/
Her name still isn't Iron Man. Take the L.
and miles morales isn't spiderman
>That's not the gotcha you think it is.
>hold this L
lmao it's an actual redditor.
YIKES IT LOOKS TRASHY
Can someone tell me why the disc drive can't have some sort of ID check for the system to handshake, that will be able to tell what's official Sony hardware?
Because that would be a smart idea. Those aren't allowed at sony, remember?
because some autist will figure out how to jailbreak it with a pencil or something
After the CMOS bomb too. Funny how consolefags accuse PChads of this as their beloved corporation shoves this shit down their throats
There are no preservation issues here because there are no games worth preserving on the thing.
True.
You'll be thinking that in 20 years when you want to play Astro's Playroom again.
>Disk drive
>Current year
When are you homosexualS going to realize that there's already been an easier way to read detachable data.
How can anybody justify buying consoles post 8th gen? Even 8th was pretty bad but 9th gen are genuinely nothing but worthless dogshit that are actively trying to make it impossible for you to own your console nonetheless your games. If you actually still enjoy playing video games and you haven't switched to PC yet I can only congratulate you on a successful lobotomy.
I swear, you can just play everything with a controller. Steam has its big picture mode if you're 10/60 and computers are too complicated for you. There's no downsides. Exclusives don't even exist anymore especially with emulation.
The only console I can say is still worth having alongside a good PC is a PS2, due to how spotty its emulation still is for it regardless of how many nightly builds you tell me to download.
>tfw all i got time to play is switch
i'll get a steam deck when am ready am in no hurry to blast games again
False, Darren
>Darren
QRD?
Darren is a notorious tendie sperg that's been active for many years. Most famous for creating a really obvious falseflagging persona that he named "eric", where he pretended to be a sony fan. Was finally caught with hard evidence against him just a couple months ago, and has been melting down ever since.
Wow, I knew nintendo fags were unhinged, but that's fucked up
oink oink eric
>consoles are trying to beat offline pc and pirates
I'm a brainlett can somebody explain?
From the OP it seems that if you swap out your disc drive like if it's broken or something.
It will unregister.
What does that mean?
Does it mean if your disc drive dies, you can't play games anymore?
You can't use the drive if you are not online or if the account it has been registered with is not yours. Basically a one use only drive
>or if the account it has been registered with is not yours
Now that you mention that, what if you share a console with a brother or something, each of you have an account... Does that mean only one of will be able to use the disc drive? That would be crazy.
Probably goes with the console id so as long as you have your account as primary it's ok
So PC is the way?
always has been
>tfw im still gonna buy one
the fat i got on eBay has loud disc drive noise
>YOU WILL OWN NOTHING
I guess, since there are no games.
I can not for the life of me find a PS5 on a jailbreakable firmware. I thought eBay of all places would be a hotbed for that but apparently not. Anyone know where to look?
Emulate them
How the mighty have fallen... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
>This is the golden age of playstation
They will never know.
It was only a matter of time, people were naive if they thought it wouldn't happen eventually.
It was even leaked that SIE were planning to do the same thing until they backed down after the XBone fiasco.
and that's a good thing
>massive preservation issue
Preservation? As in games?
This can easily be fixed by not buying consoles.
/thread
its only for the digital slim with detachable disc drive you retards
anyone buying that in the first place has only themself to blame
no it's not you cunt, it's also for Slim Disc Editions since they're essentially Digitals with a pre-bundled detachable disc drive.
nevermind then
I don't get it. What did you think would happen when you formatted the PS5? You pair the device and if you wipe it, it unpairs. If you hook up bluetooth headphones to your smart phone and then you wipe your smart phone you have to repair the headphones.
Well, at least the headphones don't need to connect to headphone manufacture tm website to keep working
>preservation
I understand the issue, I think it's bullshit, but people who use this word in regards to videogames should be burned on a cross.
good snoyim, +0.01 shekels have been added to your plastation account
retard
>what is lost media
If it's lost, it's lost, goodbye forever, good riddance.
>If it's lost, it's lost, goodbye forever, good riddance.
Digital book burning.
good goyim
Sony is really doing everything they can to completely fuck any hype for ps5 slim
There was not a single thing to get hype about to begin with.
Sony is the scummiest company of all gaming
>disc
>past ps3
Can anyone explain me what's the point? That disc has literally nothing on it, just a loicense to download the game on your drive.
Retards literally buy empty plastic boxes and call it a physical collection (overpriced garbage).
Just hack the console, you can download it and backup your shit so eventually when official online supports shuts down you end up owning you games.
>buys dickless PS5
>mad when the dickless PS5 is dickless
???
This would be an issue if Snoytrannies played games or the PS5 had games to play. Thankfully, they don't so it's a nonissue.
i wonder if we'll get to a point where people can pay money just to watch a number go up
cause if NFTs were just buying and owning the license to a sequence of numbers in a computer and microtransactions in general are solely for the sake of reducing play time - or worse, to skip the WAIT for rewards - then there's really nothing people won't pay for
>YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY!
they take the online off every gt
Snoyggers paid $70-$80 for GT, now it is stolen after GT got shut down.
Snoyboys deserve to get their money stolen.
snoygoys demand you take their money from them.
That's why Sony love their battered, gullible, brutally cucked buyers.
> maddox
> shadman
Maddox wasn't wrong, even if he is socially retarded.
>tfw i actually got invites to the GT Sport live events and got to meet kaz because of this game.
>tfw i got possible 3000 hours out of a 50 euro purchase
>but v trannies say it bad
Lmao
Okay now do the hideo shot to abe with a mario kart
Lmao its really not that insane. If you finish top 100 global for 3 seasons in row you get invite. I was consistently around 60-80th global.
>b-but iRent!!!
steam is far from perfect, but to compare this service, which is just 3 years younger than the ps2, to sony's is a joke
you can still access pretty much everything you bought in 2003, meanwhile if it wasnt for all the outrage the ps3 and vita would already be full offline consoles by now (and they will definitely be by 2025)
>you can still access pretty much everything you bought in 2003
But not everything
What games am I not owning anymore?
Everything when Epic kills Steam.
GOOD MORNING SAAR, DO THE NEEDFUL AND REDEEM EPIG GAMESTOR SAAR
Censored games and DRM on hardware. Glad I didn't get this shit after PS4 which play most games anyway.
>mfw I have all my consoles all the back to the snes so this means NOTHING to me except I'll finally get through my backlog
>in the future people will try to buy old mobos/cpus just so they can watch/play classic content, as newer cpus will prevent you via hardware lock
>those old mobos/cpu will also be illegal to sell on ebay and places like that and youll only be able to get them IRL with hand to hand transcations
>mfw
Nope. We already have FPGAs that can perfectly replicate chips for systems basically up until the dreamcast. In another 5-10 years well likely be up to ps4. So realistically, it doesn't matter.
what makes you think those wont be regulated too?
Except for VMs and emulators anon. Those things will still exist so no need to worry.
>YOU WILL OWN NOTHING
Correct, I do not own a PS5 and never will.
I'm thinking about getting a ps5. should I get digital then ? or should I get the new Xbox instead? just hope ff16 comes to it
Buy the slim version with disc player so that you really own nothing and still be happy.
what's stopping them from doing an update to prevent this near the death of it? I mean Sony isn't dumb
But i though playstation had no games? What are you guys exacty preserving here? Which is it homosexuals?
Video games are gay tho
i didnt get a ps3 because i was poor
i didnt get a ps4 because no games
i didnt get a ps5 because i have a pc
who is this thread for?
Trigger snoysisters spewing muh physical, muh you will never own anything and be happy, etc...
Sony continues to make it easier and easier to quit them. A big standout with the ps4 was specifically this issue.
Never going to buy a Sony system after having them all up to ps4.
>muh preservahun
normies dont care about this shit, just consume the current thing and move on to the next one
>archivst doing the good work
>retard israelite OP crops out the account
Go back
TOTAL SNOY DEATH
Preservation of what? Aren't there only like 2 PS5 exclusives and they are coming to PC eventually? At least one good thing came out of Sony's collapse, any need to actually buy their consoles anymore.
now?
Consoles never preserved shit, anyway. They're designed to be disposable. If you care about game preservation, back up your games or pirate them. Don't be afraid to become a data hoarder. It's much better than other types of hoarding.
what kinda cope is that? u can go buy a used used commodore right now and a game, both will work with no issues, and those pieces of shit are 40 years old
try the same with a ps5 in 15 years and all you'll have is a glorified paperweight
Oh noh. All those sweet sweet ps5 only games. Like
Astro's Playroom
Spiderman 2
That robot dinosaur game
Who cares? I buy digital exclusively and so do most people.
have a nice day digital fag.
So this is why I haven't seen that sonyfag posting crossboard links on /vg/ the past few days
>preservation
>of a lock-down x86 PC
Wow no way who could have seen it coming
PS4 is absolutely fine. PS5 Fat is fine too. You can get them new from a factory in 2100 A.D., insert disc and play the game. Without pairing, accounts and other bullshit.
They want to count drives before dithing them. To count probable loses.
What the hell is up with Sony removing features in their consoles? PS3 loss Linux and hardware bc after the revision, Vita losses Oled after its revision, now PS5 loses its DRM free status after its revision.
Looks like sony took "hatdware DRM" idea too seriously.
>Xbox's brand is damaged for a decade for doing this
>Sony gets a free pass
They know for sure this tiny little DRM trick will damage their status. But they have decided it's a fair deal: most people don't care, they will know how many drives are in actual usage out there, and when it's the good timing to cease production of discs. Simply, they shit on me for their profits.
Microshit got away with this you retard. Casuals don't even know that their last two consoles require an internet connection to initialize because the original drm setup was even worse, people were sucking their dicks for walking back that decision.
>Microshit got away with this you retard.
No they didn't, even Phil admitted so.
Read the rest of the post
How long till you people noticed it
Do the OG PS5 have this problem too or only the slim?
No, OG PS5 is reportedly safe from the DRM retardation and unironically now the better purchase than slim.
It means PS5 Pro will not be safe from this DRM shit.
I got a fat ps5 because I wanted to watch my movies. But this is the last time sony gets my money. I’m going to build me a pc.
The preservation argument is a poor one. every game on every console can be downloaded, distributed, and emulated on a computer, in most cases, in a superior state than originally intended.
This argument is only brought out when people get pissed off because they finally realise they spent $600.00 on a technologically inferior proprietary paperweight.
the preservation argument is still there when ps4 doesn't emulate, hell the ps3 still barely does and only for key games
go portbeg for console games elsewhere
PC is not suitable for long term preservation due to constant hardware and software updates, which drags you forward no matter of what. Once you step away from popular titles, you will face a hell of hardware, operating systems, drivers, middle-ware like Direct X, sound and video libraries, game itself DRM. Games on consoles just work as they work at the release day.
It sounds like skill issue. cope.
>Just Works capitalized
Is this a Todd reference?
>Once you step away from popular titles, you will face a hell of hardware, operating systems, drivers, middle-ware like Direct X, sound and video libraries, game itself DRM
all made up issues solved by Direct X itself. (arguably Dosbox or VirtualMachine at the most extreme case)
Direct X pre 12
yeah whatever you're smoking
Direct x12 its a fucking logical piece of shit in hardware compatibility
So, just keep an old Win98 PC build?
Wait so you're telling me in 2068 when Sony shutsdown my PS5 won't be able to work anymore? Fuck my life!
>2068
Delusional
Who the fuck buys Playstation Slim consoles? If you buy the original with the disk drive, this is a non issue.
Fun thing is: Slim is to replace Fats, not to accompany them.
Why would they do this when the OG PS5 works fine completely offline?
Because somebody high up at sony is an absolute fucking retard and is continually shooting themself in the foot any time they have a slight lead. Every time things are looking up for sony, they get fucking cocky and pull this retarded shit and it all comes tumbling down again.
They re desperate you can play ff16 and naggerman 2 in a jailbreaked ps5
Oh no! Not all of those lost PS5 exclusives!
DEAD GAME NEWS!
LONG STORY SHORT;
WHAT DOES THIS DO, HOW IS THIS USEFUL FOR THE END USER?
The fuck would i detach the disc drive for if I'm using it? Id buy a straight up digital ps5 otherwise.
Nothing, but again, you better acknowledge that you will never own anything at all. Sony confirms this.
how am i supposed to play if i took my ps5 with me to a forest camping trip? i don't think squirrels can share wi-fi
At this rate scalper should sell jailbreaked ps5 that shit will sell like bread
I skipped the PS5.
Exclusives are dead.
Nah, consoles are dead. Go PC or find another hobby chump.
>buying digital for anything but PC
shiggy
diggy
do
this wouldn't be an issue if exclusives were a thing of the past
You only miss a crappy remake of demon souls
Do boomers really pretend like they
1, Still buy consoles
2, still play games on consoles
Literally EVERY boomer on Ganker is some RTX 3080 or better PC digital-ONLY scum who may or may not own a Nintendo Switch for that they buy games for but never even play those games because they spend their home quality time on their PC because "it's more convenient" as they all say. Quite literally NO boomers cares about this, but they'll still pretend as if they do. They'll pretend like that old NES/Sega - PS3/XB360 era collection they have is being played by anyone and isn't collecting dust.
I used to support Physical but unless you spend most of your time playing on Switch there's no practicality to owning physical in 2023 and beyond.
21 year old boomer here
i'm 33, own a rather shitty pc and a switch that i use solely for exercise and youtube while in bed
my most prized games are resting safely in big boxes on the shelf above my battlestation
i do indeed not give a single fuck about ps or xbawks because they hinder vidya
let console gaming die.
embrace the mobileshit future.
>IT IS OK WHEN SONY DOES IT!
Sony made the ps3 and became my enemy
Seriously, who the hell buy the gaystation in 2023? I thought it was a meme and everyone was just larping.
so just re register it you dumb nagger
You cant
> Ps3
> Yellow led of death cause retarded welding for 600$ with retarded blue balls architecture
> Blue ray meme only worth in capacity
> Only good was free online compared to israelitesoft
> Beginning of western movie games walking simulator in post apocalypse and rubber bullets j-drama also decline of jrpg and skere enix
We have a built-in disc drive, and over 80% of our games are on disc(playable from start to finish).
We don't like digital
>We have a built-in disc drive, and over 80% of our games are on disc(playable from start to finish)
We will not buy a Sony console if they stop printing discs with full games, even if it's a buggy version, we want disc
Game pass sucks, cannot even mod the games lmao. So, you will own nothing and be happy either way.
Fucking hell
It’s a rental service you colossal fag
You can unless its cloud games in pc
you going to replace slim to next sony console anyway
>logical piece of shit
Implying I'd want to own a playstation piece of trash anyway.
Why are trannies so attracted to outdated media like optical and vinyl?
You guys joking right? Console gaming is a meme, everyone plays on PC, may be except switch, but after steam deck release switch is also obsolete.
It has like 5 games.
Don't buy any console unless you can easily 'mod' it.
If you're not hacking ALL the consoles you own at this point, you're NGMI. Simple as.
>cannot change hardware
>cannot mod games outside of ultra-moderated and censored "mod store" at best.
>no anime titties
>only 6 games none of which get my attention
WHY would anybody buy one instead of a gaming PC. If you care about videogames so much one should aim for the best experience imo.
the only way to preserve videogames is pirating then on pc and copying them on external hard drives.
this has been the case since at least the early ps360 days
>t. full 8tb AND 16tb, with a nice 12tb on the way
I didnt even know there was a new ps5
Why cant we all just accept the passing of time and pretend our hoarding sensabilities will never be justified. Just because we bought too many games and have nothing else to prove our existence with than obsessing over good prices for pieces of plastic.
Buy shit, die and let your shit rott in peace. You wont be interested in the same game forever. I havent played Yoshis Island since I was 6.
Speak for yourself
In a large sense I already do but perservation has always feelt like a thin veil for people to cover up their compulisve consumerism. There is no such thing as permanence, just get your great experience and enjoy life.
God, I fucking love being a PChad
Good thing i dont own a ps5 then
There's so much shit that I thought I couldn't live without that I just pass by now. I will not purchase a PS5 and that is that.
Console gaming is easy, affordable and accessible you just put the disc in and play the game
>Just casually implement the thing that got Don Mattrick fired and sent Xbox into an almost unrecoverable disadvantage for 10 years
How the turn tables
microsoft is going to win the race to the bottom when they release the revised series X with no disc drive next year and no longer sell any consoles that read discs.
Thank God for piracy but seeing that cracking only gets harder and harder (and kids don't exactly bother to learn how stuff works) I wonder how much longer we will be able to have preserved games.
Ps5 jailbreak still has the oldtrick of going to an url to exploit it
I remember when the disk reader in my Xbox 360 broke, had another broke Xbox so we switched them, turns out each one is tied to the specific console.
What a bunch of horse shit.
>sony gets big
>sony gets cocky
>sony does something the customers don't like
>sony starts hemorrahing money and backpedals
>customers come back
>repeat
Yawn
A Sony spokesperson (I believe is a CEO or someone high up now) literally said they do not care about old games and have no intentions of preserving them. A spokesperson basically gave everyone the right to pirate their games and if possible reverse engineer them to be playable offline. This is the type of company Sonyfags want to support though they couldn't care less about your product after the first week.
Wow that sucks, who could have known that something Sony thrashed Xbox for trying before, Sony themselves decided to do it. That sucks. Glad I never got a PS5 now.
Lmao snoy was going to do the same thing until they saw how poorly mattricks pitch went at e3
WHO FUCKING CARES
WHO THE FUCK IS SITTING AT HOME THINKING "HMMMM I SURE HOPE I CAN BUY A PS5 NOW AND STILL PLAY ON IT UNTIL 2066"
Anything reliant on the internet is a liability and another step away from owning your own hardware. Consequently, anyone who isn't a mouth breathing, knuckle dragging retard cares.
literally a non-issue
by the time this service terminates there will have been 15 more Playstations
get a fucking grip loser, in the last 20 years there have been 5 Playstations, who the fuck is clamming to buy a PS1 right now?
have a nice day
Poorfags
don't worry, sonyBlacks will defend this with their life, that's what npc's are for after all
hey mr shill paid 0.02 per post defending X corporation, i hope your family die in fire
You're one of the big reasons why gaming industry is so garbage now
Yeah dude, I’m sure there aren’t people who play their old SNES or PS1 on a CRT
By the time this becomes an issue, you will be able to play every PS5 game on emulator anyway. The only people who find this problematic are retarded console players who feel so emotionally attached to playing on console, that the idea of emulating brings them immesurable pain.
It is never too late to conver to the church of GOG. CONVERT you DUMB infidels! DRM FREE games!
Does the PS5 even have more than 10 exclusive games yet?
>Sony device has hardware DRM
Oh my, what a surprise.
>laughs in HDCP
Who's the target audience for something so indistinguishable from a modern PC but completely locked down by Sony?
People who are on PC for work all day I assume
This would be upsetting if the PS5 had more than one game.
IS all this DRM shit not a big potential hole for a competitor to take advantage of or is it just too late in the game for that?
Which competitor is that anon?
Surely you don’t think Microsoft would be anti DRM
anyone, like a completely new one
sony disc drives always had drm. When fixing bluray disc drives on ps3s you had to remember to export the chip with the id of the console along with it, because with mismatching codes it'd refuse to work
>When fixing
Yes, this is it. And if it aint broken, you can use it out of the box 100% offline and reset 10 times a day like don't care. But now in a year the only thing you will be able to buy is a console which is "broken" out of the box, and will "break" on each factory reset.
So Nintendo relies on shitty flash media, Sony and Microsoft have retarded call-home-or-get-a-brick, and the PC userbase relies mostly on Steam and Losedows.
Man, can't wait for all of these to shit the bed.
>Pirates whining about pirate shit pretending its about "game preservation"
So tiring.