>zoom zooms and amerilards cant into Gothic
this is why gaming is ruined
>zoom zooms and amerilards cant into Gothic
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>zoom zooms and amerilards cant into Gothic
this is why gaming is ruined
>no Gothic clones
>already played everything PB
Maybe try the Enderal total conversion for Skyrim, they desperately tried to be Gothic and partly succeeded
Can't, I am cursed to always install Requiem and porn mods.
what are the similarities to gothic in enderal? Is it worth playing if I love gothic? I hate vanilia skyrim
>what are the similarities to gothic in enderal
The layout of the landscapes is very similar, small but densely packed with hidden treasures, collectibles and stuff. They also straight copied its character progression/experience and class system, but instead of trainers you buy skill books. It's definitely worth it for one playthrough or so,
Idk, Morrowind and Gothic complemented each other nicely I've found. They had different strengths and I played both countless hours. Early 2000's were truly the golden age of RPG's.
>Early 2000's were truly the golden age of RPG's
You mean the late 90s, both for Japan and the west, shitty action RPGs like Morrowind ruined the genre, Gothic was an action RPG too but good.
>japan
>rpg
I thought this wasn't a ylyl thread
Shut up retard, you probably worship Bethesda which is the actual hilarious thing.
The first Witcher is the closest to the Gothic feel.
yes but it is built on top of really shitty NWN engine that does not even allow characters to jump
I loved climbing in Gothic
Holy fuck the first Witcher is so fucking bad it soured me from the rest of the series
If Gothic is similar then im not gonna 0lay it
The only thing Witcher 1 has in common with Gothic is a dreary colour palette and people swearing. Gameplay is completely different as is the story.
Outward has some of that old-school heart that reminded me of Gothic games.
Couldn't get into Outward. I certainly didn't help that I'm a massive hoarder and the game has absolutely tiny weight limit, even with large backpacks.
There's always mods.
You have the same problem I do, I find it always an issue when games give you the option to pick every goddamn thing but there's some fucking inventory slot or weight limit in the way. Really irritating.
Outward is fucking unplayable garbage and as overrated and mediocre Gothic is it's still miles ahead of that trash.
Mostly because there's something to do in Gothic games, even if it's 90% fetch quests, Outward is completely devoid of content outside of the two DLCs, which are still largely lacking content but not as much as the base game.
Despite of playing like gothic, you're not gonna get into it expecting gothic. Outward is more intended to be a couch coop game though
Gothic got good reviews in the American press back then though despite the English translation making the game lose a ton of charm
It really is mainly a zoomer problem
Dilate, millennials.
When degeneracy really started, gen y was only like 15. That's firmly on gen x gays and no amount of gaslighting will change that.
You do realize this only applies to autistic Ganker zoomers, right?
Just ignore such posters. Anyone who thinks zoomers play tetris, pong, quake or super bros mario is clearly delusional.
Literally everyone has played Tetris
There's a giant difference between "has played" and "plays"
A zoomer literally ended the 3 year winning streak of the reigning Tetris champion in 2018 and zoomers have been winning the championship every single year since then
>"championship" in a singleplayer puzzle game
lel
anon, competitive tetris is fucking huge, and has been for years
pretty much.
Left is literally zoomers.
imagine putting quake and fortnite in the same category
swap millennial and Gen z around then it's accurate
>puts zoomer games on the left
Is this is a triple reverse psyop?
Millennials coping hard. All of the onions cringe on plebbit is posted by millennials.
>hekin look at my rick and mortirino epic game Switch :OOOOO
retard, left side is zoomers, millenials are the ones actually playing and buying stuff like Quake and Souls games
and even then, noone plays quake anymore
arena shooters are dead and no millenial i know plays fortnite
look all those millennials seething, great job
kys zoomer, putting Nioh 2 along Elden Ring, you are a huge gay
>the English translation making the game lose a ton of charm
There's still plenty of charm in the English version. The red neck and early 00s stoner voices crack me up every time.
Agreed, I almost immediately associate Diego's voice with that of a friend, same as with slightly awkward Milten and dudebro Gorn
The people in New Camp are especially fun to talk to; Lares is a fucky thief, Lee is a dignified general, Wolf is a fucking cowboy, the drunk swamp guy in the barn is a distilled dude-weed-lmao character
Man I think I'm gonna play G1 again
I found this game in a five dollar bin of random software as a youngin' and let me tell you best five bucks I ever did spend. Well not the best now that I think about it but it's up there.
I’ll be gothic tonight haha
t. 21 year old American
Also beat Gothic 1 back in 2015
based
try Archolos
moron, I already played all the mods, even the one where you play as an orc.
I played about half of Gothic 2 back when it came out
No particular reason why I stopped, I'm just terrible about finishing games
Is 1 worth getting into or should I jump right into 2 again?
Gothic 1 is shorter and imo has a much more interesting setting/factions.
would you start reading a 2nd book before reading the 1st one because the covers are old?
I would consider skipping the first novel in a series if it was laid out in tapestries I have to hunt down in different museums first, instead of being in book form
Got it, thanks
One of the best parts about 2 is chancing upon your former inmate buddies/foes and revisiting the mine colony
So definitely play 1 before 2
Will do
>revisiting the mine colony
An incredible moment in the game, spoiled somewhat by how unbelievably obnoxious orcs are to fight and how fucking many of them there are.
its like that on purpose to make you feel powerless so you can appreciate how powerful you are in the endgame.
Except even in the end game they still hit like a fucking mack truck.
low lvl
I have beaten Gothic 2 before man, I can confidently say that at no point during it do you ever feel powerful, enemies always do fucktons of damage.
I beat the game religiousely every year you moron and i endgame you demolish orcs
Bro... your exploration? your stat increasing potion brewing? By the time you reach the dragons it should only take you a few of crossbow shots or 3 fireballs to take down an ork. And non elites have simple enough moveset you can fight one melee even on lower levels.
It's true that I played vanilla way more than Night of Raven but I don't remember feeling much of a difference in difficulty.
Notr was mainly more "difficult" because of LPs scalling
>but I don't remember feeling much of a difference in difficulty.
Then you either have poor memory or barely played the expansion. I'd say it's vastly more difficult to the point that people often recommend playing the base game first.
The canyon was the only location that I remember having trouble with. I heard people hype up the Raven fight but I beat him on the second try. Playing the base game first is a good advice, the more you play the more new thing you discover, which lets you optimize your future playthroughs. The difficulty in Gothic is only a matter of knowing where you should and should not be at a given point in the game.
>The difficulty in Gothic is only a matter of knowing where you should and should not be at a given point in the game
Well, obviously. If you're nearing the level of an expert of the game, then you should be able to dismantle it no problem.
But the biggest difficulty jump is the result of dmg calculation change - you're dealing only a fraction of dmg if your stats are meh.
>at no point during it do you ever feel powerful
if you know what you are doing with stat boosting tables and potions then late game is a piece of cake
It's the Night of the Raven expansion that did that because people complained the game was too easy
Should I start with the expansion or play vanilla first? Kind of autistic to play the same game twice.
absolutely with expansion
If you're a kiddie gaymer, play vanilla.
If you're not, play with the expansion
expansion is vannila but better
>Kind of autistic to play the same game twice.
anon I... finished Gothic 2 notr about 20times
with expansion, but dont consume things that give permanent boni when you get them. and dont try to be a jack of all trades
That was one of the best improvements Archolos did - making so that consumables don't affect the cost of learning a skill.
true, archolos generally has a lot of improvements. but considering that G2 was produced by a handful of germans in minimal time its understandable
> Kind of autistic to play the same game twice.
It is
>t.played it 12 times.
Gothic is like that 7/10 girl who does everything the other girls don't
The summer I played gothic was one of the best of my life, I never saw a game where factions made so much sense, people behaved with credible motivations (even if the nameless NPC routine quickly became predictable) and most importantly, the miriad of emotions ranging comfiness amongs friends, survival instinct when going into the forest and satisfaction when finally winning fights
Worth getting for the unique setting, backstory and also various terrifying locations
you can use magic scrolls as an utility without comitting to the magician's path which is pretty hard to do if you don't know what you're doing and aren't hoarding SP
NotR is actually insanely hard as a magician for that reason
I'm a zoomer and played Gothic 1 when it first released.
I think I managed to beat the game at 7
Notr as a mage is interesting. It's super difficult at the beginning but once you level up your magic you become invincible.
>zoomer
>played gothic 1 on release (2001)
you were barely able to speak yet you mastered the shitty controls?
Yeah, the controls weren't difficult. If anything I was weirded out by other games
>Huh why isn't CTRL used to pick up things
>Huh why can't I sell all my loot
>Huh why aren't there dialog options
It helped me learn to read which was cool
Germans made only ONE (1) good game and that's Unteralterbach.
>forgetting Signalis
But I'm an American and I love Gothic. Specifically 1, I don't care for the changes to combat in 2. I don't know why they balanced 2 so fucking harshly but it really saps some of the fun out of the experience. Great map though, Khorinis is one of the all time greatest video game towns
>zoom zooms and amerilards cant into Gothic
Neither can Piranha Bytes.
Trying to play Risen and Elex is just such a depressing experience, they aren't half as good as G1 and 2. They keep trying to expand on the combat but literally every change just makes it worse and worse.
Risen 1 is bretty good imho
>get overshadowed by a more popular series
Nothing personal, Dummkopf.
>Game is infinitely more unplayable
>Sells better
How did Todd do it
morrowind is much better than gothic, for the magic system alone
Morrowind is a piece of shit broken game that shouldn't even be mentioned together with Gothic 1 or 2
gothic is too simplistic
Morrowind is broken to the point that every part of the game that might have any depth doesn't matter, what Gothic does it does well simply because it is much, much better designed.
>waa you have too much freedom of choice it means it's broken
cope
morrowind has true crpg soul, gothic is action babby shit
>soul
fucking garbage
>but mods
yeah, its not about this game anymore.
Go play Chrolos, thats what you can call a mod.
Gothic combat styles are more deep and distinct from each other than any in morrowind. MW may have 50 spells and shit but everything resumes in point and clicking your enemy.
I liek both Morrowind and Gothic but Gothic a tad bit more
Game is infinitely easier
They're totally different games. Morrowind is closer to a classic CRPG, while Gothic is basically an immersive sim.
>Morrowind is closer to a classic CRPG, while Gothic is basically an immersive sim.
neither of these things are remotely true
>Morrowind is closer to a classic CRPG
Ah yes, becoming a god walking amongst mere mortals simply by playing the game for 1 hour, the classic crpg experience.
he made a deal with the devil after redguard flopped and nearly killed bethesda
he can never make a good game but they'll sell regardless
PB games all have dogshit gameplay. Its honestly amazing how they've managed to languish in the Eurojank zone for decades, even Larian managed to pull themselves out of there.
Larian only saving grace is that they are good at making SRPGs, now that they are making Baldur's Gate 3 is obvious they can't make a serious RPG worth a shit.
What's the issue with BG3? Writing?
How it looks, how it sounds, how it plays, what it focuses on (muh character customization). Pathfinder WOTR is the real Baldur's Gate 3.
They aren't even on the same level, Morrowind is just garbage that even mods can't fix
Freedom to play a broken game, you also have the freedom to play a better videogame and there are thousands out there that are much better than what Bethesda shits out.
>How it looks, how it sounds, how it plays
I'm gonna be honest with you, this sounds like autism. Specifically the kind that stems from an old IP getting a new entry that's not EXACTLY the same as prior installments.
Is the game bad? Or is it just not sufficiently Baldur's Gate for you?
it's 5e it's obviously going to be crap + retarded meme tier writing since it's larian
BG1 is nearly unplayable because low level 2E combat is some of the most mindnumbing garbage in existence.
>not exactly the same
As i said they focus on different things, it feels more of a strategy game than RPG combat for starters, second the story and characters seem to be absolute dreck, third it could be called something else since it shares nothing with the older Baldur's Gate games and finally it got brutally mogged by the Pathfinder games in regards to depth and combat, Larian should stick to making funny games with memes in them since that's what they excel at.
Telling a Bethesda fan to play good game is pointless, they enjoy eating shit
Oblivion is objectively good game. geninuely interesting side quests
Why did you post such nonsense?
Its because modern gaymers don't get it, they need to 10 minute tutorials on how to move around and pick up things too
>amerilards
>this is why gaming is ruined
Yes.
The dumbest animals on this planet.
Yuropoors have never made a good game ever
I tried to get into them twice but got hard filtered by the atrocious controls.
controls are very good when you get used to them. very logical.
>atrocious controls
>game quite literally allows you to beat the entirety of the game with just one hand
you can also beat every weapon-using enemy at lvl1
I actually recently bought Gothic 1 and 2, but I'm reluctant to go into it as a mage because I usually enjoy playing as a caster but, at least in terms of Gothic 1, the caster footage I've seen looks horrible. Should I just go melee instead?
>the caster footage I've seen looks horrible.
>be me ~7 years ago
>play gothic 2's expansion for the very first time
>reach le final boss of the expansion
>cast a "freeze" spell on him
>it actually fucking freezes him on the spot
>proceed to bash his head in while he is completely helpless
Magic is fine as long as you know what you are doing. In most games you wouldn't be able to 2 or 3 shot the final boss with light magic or completely disable the other final boss with elemental magic
Kinda unrelated but did you play Dark Messiah? If not, you might enjoy it
Mage in Gothic 1 is fun but you won't be learning magic spells until you are halfway through the game, you can use scrolls if you really want to.
In Gothic 2 you can learn spells much earlier.
I don't really like mage in 1 or 2. It's actually good in 3 though.
In 1, like other anon said, it takes a while to get any spells at all. In the second game, the monastery quests are some of the coolest in the game, but the actual spellcasting isn't very fun imo. You suck as a mage for quite a large portion of the game, need to rely on summons. Then nearing the end of the game you get insane spells that effortlessly murder dozens of enemies with a single cast.
magic has a learning curve to it
early game you have to cope with scrolls, late game you can rain death on enemies and kill dozens of them at once.
I think what gets me is people who say Gothic 1 cannot be enjoyed in the current day
I haven't played G1 or 2 until 2011, in fact my first Piranha Bytes game was Risen. I enjoyed G1 a lot
Yeah I replayed it recently. The atmosphere is still spot on and the OST is just so good
>I think what gets me is people who say Gothic 1 cannot be enjoyed in the current day
That's just retarded nu-males or zoomers. Both can't play videogames unless you have "accessibility features" that keep feeding you the solution.
Why is Gothic so soulful?
Chaotic development by people with passion
it just is
Based Abuyin Ibn Djadir Ibn Omar Kalid Ben Hadji Al Sharidi
I was filterd by 2
why he look like the deep fr fr no cap?
Kino.
This mod kinda makes me not want to replay Gothic 2 - mainly due to lack of cooking so you have to much on a gorillion of mushrooms. Cooking's such a neat feature.
It really is
Stop lying to yourselves It was a bloated mess with ridiculously shitty writing.
Gothic babbies are so desperate for more content, they'll swallow garbage and ask for seconds.
>A better Gothic game than literally any other Gothic game
I fucking kneel
Fans make what they want to play
>poles made better german game than germans
krautsisters... not like this
I'm neither and I still dislike Gothic. I remember buying the first one on release, and giving it to my cousin after a couple of hours of playing. He loved it. I don't mind eurojank though. For some reason I enjoyed Risen 1 and 2 a lot. Need to play the third one sometime, but I hate new Patty design so fucking much. She looks decent on arts, but ingame it's bad.
Forgot the image.
>they gave patty some patties
They really did. Funny how her design changed with each game.
GerMAKES what AmeriCAN'T
You gay tricked me playing Risen: Dead Waters. It's the worst RPG I ever played.
Yeah, they gave patty some patties
3 was better than 2 though
and they made her mc's sister so he couldn't fuck her
Bastards
think gothics bad try playing original everquest.
gothic jest dla mnie kurwa najlepszy
baza
SLA here. Why is it "baza" and not "zbazowany"? Shouldn't it be an adjectival form?
Maybe it should be, but it's not a real world anyway, just a direct imitation of the english meme word. Baza is shorter and sounds more similar to the original, though like I said it carries no real meaning regardless.
Thank you for replying seriously to an inane question.
Coś nowego?
I heard both, but "bazowany" is most common usage if my memory serves - accurate in both languages, if you get me.
wow i know polish?!
chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie w trzebrzeszynie
nevermind 🙁
>trzebrzeszynie
You mean w Szczebrzeszynie
HEY, YOU
WHAT WITH?
Downloading it now. What am I in for? I only heard the devs made the MC a quipping gay.
don't bother tbqh
>don't bother tbqh
WELL IM GOING IN ANYWAY
I'm curious how bad it is. I can already tell the constant ironic talking is gonna be a pain and I'm only in the intro.
keep updating us on the game, I'm kind of curious
WORST. PRISON. EVER.
I like the combat system a la For Honor - more vidya should be using it instead of branidead left click spam.
The best Gothic game released in the last decade
It's an alpha of a bad game that will never release. Even the devs said they completely scrapped everything from this build.
Don't take it seriously and you'll have some fun for an hour or two.
They made this with a survey in mind to get the opinion from the players whether they want a Gothic Remake and what they expect it to be. Many people voted for a faithful remake so they scrapped almost all of this Playable Teaser and only reuse a few assets for the actual remake.
The teaser was horrible. The beginning area was bloated, the game world was limited, the inventory paused the game, the combat was a shitty For Honor copy, nobody was actually recognizable from the original game and the main character never stopped talking as you wrote. It's good to try it out though if you played the original game to see for yourself how bad it is.
I've been playing this on my steam deck this week. Controls like arse even with the gamepad mod but it's pretty cool.
Someone tell me where I can get armour? I'm still trying to join old camp and while I'm starting to git gud at the combat, everything is kicking my shit in.
Also is it worth paying to learn how to collect teeth from animals and stuff like that? Money seems plentiful from just gathering everything so my instinct is not to bother.
Armors are mostly gated behind factions, best initial armor you can get is the miner gear from Fisk at the Old Camp. For now grind xp by killing scavengers and molerats and then you can move on to bloodflies.
And yeah skill points are abundant in Gothic 1 so just spend them on whatever, only in Gothic 2 + Raven you need to worry about your build.
Thanks. Another question: how do you melee combat in this game? I knew that originally the controls were both hands on keyboard but I'm using steam deck with a gamepad mod so I've gone into not knowing how it was supposed to control.
Fighting enemies just seems awkward. Are you supposed to just inevitably tank damage or is it actually possible to avoid being hit altogether because before I can even react properly, enemies in this game just chop you up in seconds.
Need to learn to parry, just move backwards when enemy makes attack move
I find it that the best way to fight is to time your attacks and not bother with dodging at all. Your hits stagger enemies, so if you hit just before they hit you, you'll be safe.
As for human enemies - you can block their attacks, so it's easier.
You can block (only human and orc opponents with weapons) or dodge backwards/sideways. Dunno what are the binds for that but it was a regular backstep ("S") on KB+M.
Game has various rocks and ledges placed around so you may cheese most animal fights even as a ranger
I recently killed the shadowfurry near the stone circle by sniping it from a ledge accessible if you run past it and keep to your right towards the orc lands
>Armor
Buy some at Fisk's, costs 500 ore but it seems you have enough money
>collect teeth
No, you won't be needing that, same with pickpocketing.
Gothic 1 is a fairly easy game in later chapters, you don't need to worry about having enough ore or enough skill points. I'd argue it's more fun if you made some mistakes on your way instead of minmaxing.
>Someone tell me where I can get armour?
You can get some digger's pants in the old camp, I think Fisk sold them. But later armour is only available once you join a camp.
>Also is it worth paying to learn how to collect teeth from animals and stuff like that?
I always learned that, over the course of the game you can get a good amount of money for all the animal trophies you get.
You can get free armour at the new camp mine that is good enough until act 2.
Game made by Germans.
Just no.
For me, it's hard to be a god.
Is that considered good combat by anyone? Legit asking.
He just wants to shill some shitty mod to make it third person, it's an isometric game
What am I in for?
What am I in for?
what am I in for?
bros?
So what am I in for?
Not the OG feeling that's for sure, it's almost a parody worth playing for a bag of laughs
I'll trust you on this as I've never done a NotR run as a magician, it's the kind of min-maxing that not even I enjoy, though I suppose the learning tablets help a lot
I distinctly remember the paladin on the ship shitting his plated pants when walking up on deck as a pijama wearer kek
Man this truly looks like something my parents would have watched
In fact Gothic was one of the few games my parents "approved" of playing because I was learning german at the time and shit like ProSieben was too fast for my middle grade self
LMAO thanks Anon
We got a lot of jokers I see
I like how it's so ugly and bright, kek. Tho Diego's "new" look is an improvement I'd say. It's nice they dug into his latino/zorro theme a bit more.
what the fuck? is that a shitty skyrim mod with overblown ENB config or what?
Funnily enough, that's the lowest brightness setting there is. But I'm too lazy to dig into cfg files to change it or motion blur for 1,5h long teaser.
needs more bloom and loads of motion blur for the smallest movements
Well, Mike Hoge, one of the creators of Diego's character, wrote that they absolutely misinterpreted his character. I don't think he's supposed to be a Shakespearean/Zorro-like character.
Do you have a link or something? it'd be interesting to read such reactions to the teaser.
https://gothicarchive.org/postrelease/interviews/MikeHoge_30_01_2021_Part3.html at the end of the site. Search for "Gothic Remake". Only in German though
Its not good. Diego looks like some random dude, the hero for some reason is a soichugger
If they do remake Gothic without instantly scrapping half their alpha every time, should they change the combat y/n?
just copy chivalry 2 combat, why is it so hard?
old people are cringe
I'm one of those people who played G2 NoTR before G1 and G1 was so stupidly easy in comparison.
part of growing up is realizing games like this are not very good, hate to break it you
>part of growing up is realizing games like this are not very good
t. goy of slop "enjoyer"
Not exactly accurate since the MC of Gothic games is actually the chosen one.
>t. goy of slop "enjoyer"
my favorite game from last year was knights of the chalice 2. gothic is a bad series of games for people only very casually interested in video games, basically the European version of elder scrolls. it's mostly liked by zoomers who found out about it on youtube, again, just like older elder scrolls games. these games are shit and you should move on.
>gothic is a bad series of games for people only very casually interested in video games, basically the European version of elder scrolls
the fact you dont know gothic was a smash hit in germany (where it was developed) and played by a shitload of people there just shows you have no idea
just because zoomers like it doesnt mean they were its original fanbase you moron
>the fact you dont know gothic was a smash hit in germany
I literally just said that it was, why did you samefag ESL gothic schizo?
yet you didnt say that, retard
>it's mostly liked by zoomers who found out about it on youtube
You realize it's hugely popular in Poland among people who are now 30 and back when it released home internet was something out of this world, projecting retard?
>othic is a bad series of games for people only very casually interested in video games
Oh, shit. Watch out, we got an expert over here. And I'm almost 30 but you're welcome to keep coping about zoomers.
>I'm almost 30
Anon, if you arent in your 30s you are a zoomer.
I think you need to re-check the definition of a zoomer and stop using it as a derogatory term.
tl;dr - keep coping
>I'm almost 30 zoomie!
>I'm older than you and you are a zoomer
>s-stop insulting zoomers, sseths said this game is a masterpiece
oh I am laffin
youre actually retarded, we get it
uhh, ok? Not once did I call you a zoomer but again, you're free to keep coping.
And sseth doesn't know shit about Gothic - it's clear to me he either didn't play it or only played it a bit and got the rest from internet forums or other youtube vids.
See - this is how I know you're just some retarded teenager who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. That game was an instant classic right when it released, it didn't suddenly become popular because of some youtuber.
>That game was an instant classic right when it released
Not really, it was a small hit in certain parts of Europe only, mostly because there wasn't much competition for that kind of game back then and the massive flop that was Ultima 9 was still very alive in people's memory back then, so Gothic being pretty much exactly Ultima 9 but not completely irredimable garbage was what made the game stick with people.
Truth to be told the vast majority of PC owners didn't care about the game at all until two years later more or less, when they started giving it out for free on various PC magazines, that's when it actually got some popularity, and even then it was still largely niche, the reason why Gothicfags are so angry about Morrowind in fact is precisely because even at its peak Gothic never managed to compete with TES for that king of ARPG niche.
Gothic 3 managed to be a somewhat big budget game because Gothic 2 sold pretty well, Morrowind is shit because its a shitty game, no need to make up excuses for it.
>mostly because there wasn't much competition for that kind of game back then
Gothic 2 beat Morrowind
Morrowind absolutely demolished G2 in both sales and popularity, I don't know what you're talking about.
>Who was angry about Morrowind?
Gothic fans, surely not me since I do not play Bethesda trash, but even back then people largely preferred Morrowind to Gothic, it's just how things were.
Nobody treated the two as separate things either, largely because most people didn't care about Gothic at all, even here in Europe.
>most people didn't care about Gothic at all, even here in Europe.
That's plainly wrong. Piranha Bytes used to be huge with Gothic. It was everywhere back then. At least here in Germany.
Pretty much
Although it wasn't quite the cultural sensation that Anno 1602 was in its day which literally everybody played, even the most normal of normalfags
No shit a german game actually had traction in Germany, shame EU, let alone the world isn't just Germany.
Oh yeah, I totally bought discs of a long dead italian PC magazine on Ebay, fucking retard, this is why people can't stand you.
>shame EU, let alone the world isn't just Germany.
sadly
>No shit a german game actually had traction in Germany, shame EU, let alone the world isn't just Germany
>t. mad 2nd world shitter from some balkan country
german market is the most important one in europe, cope gay
>2nd world
not such a thing
I'm sorry you're completely illiterate, Hans, but I'm very clearly italian, still doesn't change that 99% of the world didn't and still doesn't care about PB's jank.
You can try to correct the records all you want but you can't stop people from pointing out how you're a massive fraud.
who cares about you being italian, noone
grats on buying used gothic cds off ebay though, hope you had fun with a good german game
You clearly do Hans, since you're so eager about calling out other people's nationalities and keep shitposting about it.
>hope you had fun with a good german game
To this day there's no such thing as a good german game, since the end of the 19th century you people are genetically unable to make to make worthwhile entertainment and only get worse with time, even finns and ivans have you beat.
to this day, there are no italian games
sad
There's a few actually, but why would we bother making games when the rest of the world is already making them for us and are so good at it, unlike you people?
It's a third person fantasy FEDEX simulator where you go around fetching things for other people, occasionally you kill things for other people too.
Unlike FEDEX wagies you get swords, magic and shit, you still get treated as a subhuman wagey at all times because you're in fantasy Germany and that's really the only thing you do.
This kind of self flagellating experience is paramount to the average german male because they're soulless automatons that are physically incapable of imagining any sort of human condition that isn't about work for the sake of work, even though they not so secretely want to kill everyone, which is also why in every single PB game you eventually genocide every single NPC, and you enjoy it despite the massive jank.
Basically you can't truly understand germans without playing Gothic games, it's so intrinsically teutonic in both spirit and execution that is much more illuminating and interesting as a social commentary than an actual game.
>There's a few actually, but why would we bother making games when the rest of the world is already making them for us and are so good at it, unlike you people?
the cope, hahahaha
>german market is the most important one in europe
you are conflating economic size with importance, Germany doesnt actually export of anything of irreplaceable value, and it has no military, and bigger countries dont particularly have any interest in them.
>t. 2nd or 3rd world shitter
I'm a burger, why does Germany even export besides cars? no one even likes German cars in America any more, it's all us or japanese here.
shitloads of engineering stuff
for example?
machinery
the fact that you dont know germany is one of the worlds largest exporters of goods (now only behind china) but claim otherwise kinda speaks volumes
would you like to be spoonfed some more info?
yes, what goods?
like what? because when I order a mechanical part it says made in china
tools, cranes, heavy machinery for construction etc
jesus dude a simple google search would tell you all of this
my pops is in upper management for this line of work specifically and all those types of things are made in US, even things that have to be custom made from scratch are fabricated by US companies and bidded on by US vendors for mass production. no one in US is buying a German crane or something lol
>no one in US is buying a German crane or something
yes they do, this is only from one company
dude what are the exports? billions is not a lot, US and China are exporting trillions. tell me what they are because it's not what you think it is
you arent even able to be spoonfed, jesus
Lets say I want to make a commercial truck with a custom bed that I can swap out the back with a cherry picker, salt spreader, etc. I can't collaborate with a german vendor for this because all of these parts have to be custom made and shipped. The cost of doing so would be triple of doing it locally, it would take 10 times longer, and there's no guarantee it would be done right, nor would it be sustainable. Its simply not possible. Heavy machinery is all done in house in the US. The main German export to US is cars, but German cars are a luxury product. If I want a car I get a US car because its easy to work on and the parts are cheap or I buy a Japanese car because I'll never need to work on it. Out of all of Europe's major economic zones, the German economy is the only one that has stagnated because they've been cut out of global subcontracting chains following COVID disruption and the prices of raw materials have sky rocketed. Germany has been pushing retarded unsustainable growth for two decades now. Most foreign machinery in US is things related to plumbing or power like boilers and generators, and most of that comes from UK and Italy. Like I went to the local plumbing supply warehouse a week ago to buy a ball valve and guess what? It was made in Italy. No German products to be found there. I cannot remember the last time I have seen something made in Germany.
>if I want a car I take a US car because its' cheap
lel o lel
Machinery and meds, mostly
Like 15% of their economy is cars and car accessories? Wow. Post the American one.
bagelwagen
I will spent all germoney on vodka
t.janusz
>the reason why Gothicfags are so angry about Morrowind
There's only a handful of posters ITT mentioning Morrowind and most are trying to force this dumb rivalry, including your own gay ass.
Is there anything in your brain that's not revolving around moron tribalism?
>angry about Morrowind in fact is precisely because even at its peak Gothic never managed to compete with TES for that king of ARPG niche.
Who was angry about Morrowind? Even back then people treated both as two entirely separate genres of RPG. Gothic being a more linear experience and Morrowind being more sandbox.
Gothic 3 was when Piranha Bytes went crazy and decided to make a massive open world with tons of sandbox systems.
Morrowind fails at being a sandbox game while Gothic is relatevely linear but does everything well, the fun of playing Bethesda games comes from strongly believing you are actually playing a good game when you aren't
Name a better modern western game
>Name a better modern western game
I can't, but that's still no reason to praise Archolos.
>Name a better modern western game
brigand oaxaca
gothic 1 was very well received and quickly had a cult following
gothic 2 was an absolute hit
gothic 3 was shunned by everyone bec it was a buggy mess
you dont know what youre talking about
Gothic 1 was a commercial failure when it came out.
Fun fact, Gothic wouldn't have gotten it's funding if it wasn't for moorhuhn
G1 flopped at launch.
G2 was moderately successful.
G3 was largely a flop, all of the Gothic games are buggy messes too, even after years of community patches they never fixed a shitload of bugs in G1/G2 such as bypassing doors with morphing or side strafing into Khorinis, I played those games back then anon, I already posted my fucking G1 discs.
>I already posted my fucking G1 discs
how is this proof of anything? i can go to ebay right now, buy some shit made in the 80s and claim im from the that generation and fucked your mom
just furthers my point of you being a retard who doesnt know what hes talking about
>G1 flopped at launch.
imagine typing this shit and expecting anyone to take you seriously after that
>SSETH
What a FUCKINGJOKE
Dude is a woketard
>sseth is woke
retard
>pushes muh toxic masculinity
>not woke
FUCK TARD
he just uses antiwoke memes and language to be "edgy" and drum up buzz.
>anon is a closeted gay internet stoic
Many such cases
>muh toxic masculinity
and you're a closeted woketard
Cope
Go talk to your family about the things that trouble you, you'll feel much better anon
>REEEE LOOK AT THIS CONTEXTLESS BLURB I HAVE FROM SOMEONE THAT IS LEGITIMATELY FUNNY AND PUMPS OUT A LOT OF CONTENT THATS WORTHWHILE REEEE
'So son, what have you been up to lately in your room? Heard anything about that job offer I sent you?'
Gen Z's oldest are around 25-27 i think
So you're either a zoomer, or basically one anyway
In my experience it's liked and still played only by boomers from Germany and former Soviet states. Never saw zoomers playing it.
>zoom zooms and amerilards cant into Gothic
Gothic is played mostly by zoom zooms in Poland. Also Morrowind is better.
>Gothic is played mostly by zoom zooms in Poland. Also Morrowind is better.
rofl
>bethesda interns still seething about gothic
>20 years after it released
How did the krauts do it bros?
Who is trying to force Gothic vs. Morrowind
Ganker in general has not played either game, and most people in 2023 that have played one of them have played both
If Gothic v Morrowind was a prize fight it would be called " The Geezers at Caeser's"
This fight wasn't relevant 20 years ago nevermind today
Way of the Samurai did it better and doesn't overstay its welcome or overcomplicate things. Unironically
thing < thing: Japan
>Way of the Samurai did it better
Did what?
I was planning to play WotS 4 because it has romanceable e-bois but it does not look even remotely similar to Gothic
Not everyone is stuck in the past or pretending to be old-school, retard.
I enjoyed this game greatly when it came out, but I'd never play it now because my taste in vidya has been refined away from primitive euro-jank.
>start screen
>button prompt
Yep. Tell tale sign of shit game
>no mouse cursor
>that shitty metro UI
>roboto font in fucking fantasy game
>character talks too much
it's over. pack it up.
I hate this UI. WHY
>WHY
consoles. that's literally it.
The worst thing about this is that it implies the MC actually committed a crime. This was left ambiguous in the original.
it's weird that no one ever claimed that they are developing a game inspired by Gothic
correct me if someone said that
I can name 7 games where the devs were inspired by Gothic just off the top of my head
Gothic 2, Gothic 3, Risen, Risen 2, Risen 3, Elex, Elex 2?
Yep, thanks for completing my joke for me
At the moment I didn't hear about such game in development. From recent stuff CDPR said all Witchers took inspirations from Gothic.
CDPR said Gothic games inspired them while making Witcher games but I don't remember which game. Definitely not the 3rd one.
There's a bunch of indie devs making Gothic clones but nothing that interesting yet.
according to creators of first witcher, their dream was "to make a game like gothic"
So other than Archolos or Returning what are some good conversion mods?
Always heard good things about Legend of Ahssun
Currently playing the way of the sleeper. It's good so far
damn yuropoor threads are awful
I'm a 29 year old zoomer and I'm embarrassed to admit I got filtered by the controls when I first tried it 15 years ago. It's in my top 5 now.
What is there to be filtered by? For Gothic 1 just learn to use ctrl for every action and learn to navigate through the world without much strafing. You don't even need to use ctrl in the second game. Takes 15 minutes at most to get the hang of
>Takes 15 minutes at most to get the hang of
That's why it's embarrassing to complain about the controls in Gothic. They're actually pretty easy and intuitive once you focus for ten minutes. I comfortably played the entire game one handed.
>I'm a 29 year old
>zoomer
Anon, yer a milennial.
Depends on where he's from.
Culturally, Eastern Europe got GenX'd later compared to the west.
is 29 years old australia a millenial, zoomer or turd worlder
Most sources I've seen vary between 95-97 as the cut-off point so, to me, anyone born after 95 is a zoomer.
All 3 at the same time
Is Archolos really that good?
Yes
Why
Because it's basically just a new scenario of Gothic 2 with a few QoL upgrades. They made a whole new world and new characters while retaining the soul.
no the people praising it only like gothic and nothing else
I playe way more videogames in my life than you did, especially since i'm not a PC only fag like so many people in here. Archolos was easily one of the best releases of the recent years case closed, just because its free doesn't mean it doesn't shit on 99% of comemrcial products
Slavs also like Morrowind for some reason, probably because not having played on consoles they don't know what good action in a game feels like, its not like Morrowind is even half decent as a RPG so i still don't get what people praise it for.
>I playe way more videogames in my life than you did, especially since i'm not a PC only fag like so many people in here
what console exclusives did you play in 2022, hans
Slavs are a primitive backwards people. It is understandable they are drawn to Morrowind.
I can only speak for muself but "action" is one of least important things in games like Gothic or Morrowind. Immersion. Feels like plausible internally consistent world. Games like that are for feels not kills. Skyrim is better slasher than Morrowind but less good game.
yes its 11/10 anon
If you liked Gothic 1 or 2 then you will like Archolos too and that is a guarantee, its a nostalgia bomb that still manages to feel fresh.
Call of Duty demolished Morrowind and any Bethesda title in popularity, means its a better series right?
>largely preferred Morrowind to Gothic
They didn't even know it existed, if amerifats played Gothic instead of Morrowind we wouldn't be left with irreedemable garbage like Fallout 76 and Skyrim that's for sure, even mediocre shite like Elex has some positive values about it.
>if amerifats played Gothic instead of Morrowind we wouldn't be left with irreedemable garbage like Fallout 76 and Skyrim that's for sure
clearly you have not played elex because all this goyslop is the same and always has been
>means its a better series right?
Regardless how stupid it is to compare completely different markets, It absolutely is, mostly because CoD isn't an FPS with schizophrenia like TES or an action game with schizophrenia like Gothic.
>if amerifats played Gothic instead of Morrowind we wouldn't be left with irreedemable garbage like Fallout 76 and Skyrim that's for sure
I can't take you seriously when you praise Elex right after dunking on Bethesda's trash, Risen was already a terrible trilogy but Elex made it absolutely clear PB is just as incompetent as Bethesda, but with a fraction of their budget.
>compare completely different markets
Good, let's not compare Gothic to Morrowind then since one is an action RPG and the other is an action sandbox RPG that fails miserably at being action, sandbox or an RPG.
Great console exclusives (also on PC). I was playing on consoles when they mattered, not in these days where 99% of the games is also ported elsewhere, not saying that the PC game industry is any good but modern consoles aside from some exclusives aren't worth anything
Because they are poorer they are also lucky that they are forced to play older titles, in the end gaming didn't get better at all and they aren't missing much, i'd also add that a lot of modern titles that are actually great run even on older hardware.
> Slav cope
Yes I understand that as a backwards people you get the First Worlds leftovers. The good thing for you is you have convinced yourself they are delicious.
I am from Germany you fucking imbecile
> I am german not a slav.
That is a distinction without a difference. Fucking Hun is getting lippy.
still better than your shithole, cope
Hun's mad.
You should have been able to deduce that i am not a slav, nothing wrong with being poor though, as i said it gives them an excuse to keep playing and modding older titles and i praise them for that, better them than the hordes of supposed rich people that play shitty games just because they are new.
I would be ashamed to admit I was a slav as well.
You won't see me praising Piranha Bytes, since Gothic 3 they have been chasing that AAA market even though they have no budget for deluding normies enough that they will buy their games, Skyrim is about as shit as Elex but the graphics and locations of Skyrim are prettier and the marketing budget is much bigger, they can't compete with that. All they need to do is accept to make games more stylistic and with a smaller graphical budget, if they released something like Archolos commercially they would have made money without even trying but no, they'll keep making generic sounding, looking and playing shlock that fans don't want.
PB would already go a long way if they stopped repeating the same exact mistakes they've been making since G1, even if they kept blowing their meager budgets on overly big worlds.
In Elex defense though, it's still not as terrible as Risen 3 was, that was easily the lowest point of PB's career.
Blame Gothic fans for being a literal cult.
Yes, it's good. One of the best releases of 2022 and it shits on most of modern AAA games.
Just try it if you're interested, it's free.
>what the hell
>what the fuck
>i have to get out of here
Who write this dialogs?
me
Honestly I still haven't found a game where simply exploring the world is more fun than in Gothic games, even in Gothic 3 that was very fun.
thats because devs think bigger map=better
A bigger map means they are extending the game length without even trying to create actual, meaningful content
>but 90% of the map is empty
Didn't stop people from praising Morrowind, Oblivion, Ubisoft open world titles and similiar garbage non stop.
just FUCK my combat UP.
Morrowind has better and more interesting world but Gothic has more living world. Both have one great thing in common. Fantasy that is not cheap plastic clone of LOTR. IMO Gothic has vibe akin to Arnies Conan films.
>Morrowind has better and more interesting world
Its not interesting at all, unless you really love 90% of the world being empty and full of red mountains and cliff racers, don't know what brain damage Morrowind fans suffer from but i guess they confuse what is written in the game's books for what is actually being represented in the game world.
Bro Morrowind is like 80% grey ash and desert
Shit's like New Vegas without the orange bloom
>Morrowind has better and more interesting world
No it doesn't
It doesn't even have a more interesting world compared to its predecessors
Anon is yalking about mushroom trees. They fascinate the Morrowind crowd. You will be able to tell how much they like something by if it has mushroom trees or not.
Try it.
is this the slavmoron meltdown thread
Germs aren't slavs
>a wild westcuck appears
>Ganker suddenly hates yuro jank
what happened?
mediocre tolerable game that became annoying through constant German shilling
>awesome german game that was everywhere but zoomer youtube shilling now paints it in a negative light
there, fixed it for you
no it's definitely krauts. krauts are fucking annoying.
pretty sure youtubers love shit game
>ELEX 4 YEARS LATER... IT WAS GOOD
>ELEX IS A HIDDEN MASTERPIECE
>ELEX CRASHED 4 TIMES... AND THAT'S A GOOD THING
>THIS LOW BUDGET GAME BLEW MY MIND...
It's just a couple of obssessed posters trying to stir shit up and force a rivarly between fanbases for cheap (You)s. Pay them no mind.
>action games
Nice try, Piranha Bytes but I'm wise to your schemes by now.
Risen 4 when?
The story's not finished yet Bjorn, you stupid cuckold.
>should we discuss a game with a cult following and recommend mods and other games to each other?
>no let's screech about people born in a different year or people born in a a different country for some reason
Where do you think you are?
I always thought of this place as a shit heap with diamonds inside. Yeah most threads are shit but every once in a while you'd get a nice thread. But it seems like the ratio between shit and gold gets worse every year.
I don't consider being rude to anonymous people on a a Chinese basket weaving forum to be high t
I dont care gay
>nnooo stop arguing PLEASE
low T.
There's around 200 posts about the game and mods so I'd say we had a good run.
It's only similar because it's kinda janky. I have no idea what CDPR meant with their "Gothic inspiration" but to me it looks like a cheap marketing stunt because Gothic is popular in Poland.
God I love Gothic so much. I even prefer 3 to any Scrolls game. 2 is probably my favorite game ever.
I'm a burger and I love gothic 1 and 2
I like Gothic, Morrowind and Demons/Dark Souls
I don't like shit like the Gothic remake
Putting Germans in charge of entertainment is like putting the French in charge of the military or the Brits in charge of cooking.
You are not putting people in a position to succeed.
and like Americans ruling the world
You will miss us when the bugmen take over.
they wont, theyre corrupt and cheat in everything they can
education, science, engineering, construction, everything is worse in china
the only thing they can do very well is copying
>ban child labour in your town
>neighbour town doesn't
>don't ban trade with them because it's not "nice"
>economy cannot keep up, businesses either go out or are moved to child-labour town
>your leaders actively support this
>get vilified by the media for not wanting this
This but instead of towns it's countries or at least big chunks of them. Americans will only be "missed" as in it wasn't as terrible during their time, but they started it for "muh cheap phones"
this i have to agree with (as german), but sometimes we produce quality stuff
And like putting Americans in charge of education, apparently.
So what exactly makes Gothic a better game than the Scrolls?
They are both great games (Morrowind that is, not what came after) with different strengths and weaknesses and don't let fanboys of either game tell you different.
Skyrim is better than Morrowind
and Gothic is better than Skyrim
>Morrowind that is, not what came after
Literally all the same games
Yes
small dense world> large empty world
>holy shit bro this map is so huge it can fit so much boredom in it
>top
westoid games
>bottom
kino euro/rusjank
and we love our rusjank,
ok ... ukrainejank actually
I seen this game brought up and me and the zoomers shit on Morrowind because boomers think their game is some kind of hardcore RPG and not casual bethesda trash.
What is Gothic and what makes it good?
its much more realistic bec noone gives a shit about who you are
and NPCs have routines they do chores, cook etc in morrowind they just wait until you talk to them
Old people fighting about a forgotten age. Gothic did some things well but the sum was less than its parts. Morrowind was just aslave to convention while trying to push the edge of the envelope. It went about how you would expect. It was still a step in the right direction and was good for what it was.
Its Elder Scrolls if it was good, imagine if Morrowind had a reactive world where people feel like they might be real instead of mannequins, a game with a world that is more compact but actually worth exploring, combat that isn't entirely decided by dice rolls and you aren't spamming the left mouse click like an idiot, dialog that isn't repeated over and over like the NPC are spouting wikipedia articles at you, a game where the "what do they eat" question can be easily answered, a game with a non broken economy and some actual challenge, a game that is objectively better, i mean even the music in the Gothic games is superior
>push the edge of the envelope
Morrowind dumbed down the entire genre, just like Daggerfall and Arena did before it, the only envelope they pushed is how much can they increase sales while making a series more and more awful
I'm sure there is a lot of exaggeration here but it sounds like a fun game and my kind of thing. I'll recommend it to all my Skyrim buddies
> They dumbed it down.
If you think porting table top rulesets into vide games is a good idea then you are very wrong. That mentality held video games back for decades.
Yeah better to make up new combat mechanics with dice rolls attached to them, so you can dumb down both the roleplay mechanics and the action mechanics at the same time.
I have to agree almost all the tabletob mechanics they lazily slapped on top don't make sense when it comes to a narrative action rpg like Morrowind
Narrative didn't really come into play for Bethesda until Oblivion. Morrowind was working out the kinks in the mechanics.
RNG is perfectly valid for crit chance and proc rate for effects. That is it.
So yes coming up with combat systems better suited to video games than table top rulesets is very neccessary for the industry to progress.
No using turn based combat systems in a real time game makes complete sense. Morrowind's combat was perfection and should have been ported exactly as is to Skyrim
I do not think that is a commonly held belief. The fans are happy and no other dev has tried to copy Morrowinds combat in 20+ years. The design philosophy behind it is a proven failure. The only advocates for it are the contrarians and hipsters that frequent Ganker.
Morrowind dice rolls were intended for a cRPG, not for an action game for many reasons, especially because there is nothign that limits how many actions you can take in one turn, you can swing your weapon like 5 times for every opponent action, its simply a broken system for a broken game
Nah i'm more than happy with older titles and the few newer titles that are actually good but the industry, in general, has went straight into the toilet
And by one turn i meant one second, Morrowind doesn't have turns even though that dice roll system would be ideal only for games that have them.
> I am happy with the leftovers.
I am happy you have accepted your lot in life. Much of the worlds problems is prople thinking they are entitled to things they are not.
You are a shining example of knowing your place.
You mean the classics, you zoomers are playing the leftovers, the scraps, the parts of the industry that were being rejected decades ago but are now accepted since you have no standards and will readily consume the slop if it has a cool HDR shader on top.
Zoomers? So you are an old timer claiming your Model T is so much better than my Tesla. Let me guess soul will feature prominently in your argument?
>is so much better than my Tesla
There is bait and then there is that type of obvious bait, please stop
> My Model T IS better than your Tesla though.
There are coping mechanisms and there us what you just did. Letting me know the blow has landed is gratifying. Please continue.
don't bother, they both suck
No, We haven't played it because its a relatively obscure series that few people have heard of. You just want to feel better about yourself because you played some obscure game.
You should be the one going back since you engage in this retarded 24/7 group think of zoomers being bad just like a plebbit user
t.zoomer
every german with balls fleed to argentina after WW2 or died in ww2
Correct. Problem?
>Problem?
almost your entire generation is a fucking problem. maybe 10 or 20% of you fuckers are reasonable.
>Zoomers aren't reasonable
>Believes retarded internet memes
Why are retards talking about the europoor economy now? This is a Gothic/Morrowind thread
so what do Germans export?
money to Poland
why are Germans so cucked?
Beer
Irish beer is better
Apparently shitposts about a shitty ancient game.
>entire thread about a hungry brown child's obsession
Ganker has some weird threads these days
Post favourite gaming moment in Gothic please
joining the faction at entry level. sure in power and influence yet still long way in front of you. becoming a "normie" in gothic world. before that you are a fucking loser so becoming average makes you powertripping
>sure
surge, also realizing the sleeper is a demon
You know what, I see where you're coming from especially with the powertripping by getting a basic armour kek; there wasn't a wolf, molerat or regular lizard left on the map when I did that
My top three favourite moments were as following
>joining the New Camp after doing everything possible to steal from the other two
>seeing in my journal that Diego noticed the tampering with the list yet still allowed it to go through; makes sense because he's friends with Gorn
>mustering the bravery to clear the Fog Tower and killing zombies;
As a kid I was utterly terrified by the sounds zombies made when they saw you and how skellies made no sound apart from bone feet
Zombies?
I can only picture how someone modelling that many zombies for free looks like irl
that's just popping the cherry, same as with popping the champagne when you wipe the floor with them later
The industry progressed into the toilet, that's where it went
You being unhappy is strictly a you issue.
fighting an orc for the first time and getting violated by the first scout on the bridge
still one of the best open worlds ever made
if it wasnt so fucking buggy, those boars still give me ptsd
Eh, it's super empty outside of Myrtana.
Varant is a fuckhuge desert with nothing in it and the single worst quest in the series, while Nordmar is tiny and what little there is is still 90% walking in empty areas.
Nowhere near as bad Outward in that respect though, and I honestly prefer G3's combat to the previous games, even though it's still bad.
>G3 soundtrack
based
I liked Varant music the most in general
only good part about that game. its basically Skyrim but older
I remember that when I got the game back when it released I would look at the map that came with it and plan my travels, thinking which city I would go to next and which roads I would take.
I wish the game wasn't optimized like shit, but I still enjoyed it.
I love Gothic 1 more than Gothic 2. Camp is such a comfy place. I just hope that story didn't get a snow dive where it came to the Sleeper part of the game.
>remake coming out
That explains all these stupid posts, you guys think it will be good or should I just play the old one?
I think it will be really fucking mediocre or ok but lacking all the charm of the original
We really have no idea. It's being made by a new studio and after they put out a teaser to test the waters, people kept pointing garbage themes/mechanics out so they scrapped it complately and restarted from scratch.
Its gonna be awful, i don't mean like most remakes in these days i mean properly awful, the graphics also melt my eyes just like that upcoming System Shock 1 remake.
So far it looks really mediocre. Play the originals.
it's one of the best games out there through i don't why they have to shit on TES.
>like gothic 1 and 2
>like oblivion and morrowind
>dislike gothic 3 and skyrim
get on my level
Skyrim is better than any previous TES by far, they are unplayable now.
Otherwise can agree
side quests are shit and ui and controls are obv designed for console
>side quests are shit
like in all TES games
>ui and controls are obv designed for console
just like oblivion, though skyrim's UI is uglier
> The controls are designed for the primary platform
No shit Sherlock.
side quests in skyrim are better than the "main quests" in morrowind lmao
oblivion side quests are better than entirety of skyrim
and other stupid things bethesda shiteaters say
good old tribalism
>NOOO NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT MY EUROJANK THE WEST HAS FALLEN
This thread feels like it was made by an AI asked to intimidate the average Ganker fag
non-zoomer nor burgerican here, this has been the least comfy game i've played, it simply is not satisfying to be trapped in a dome, that kind of atmosphere just doesn't do it for me.
pair that with awful british voice acting when you try to steal from someone and they go all "HAYYY YOUUU~" and that'll repel me from the game forever.
You know what Anon, since you gave good reasons I see your point of view so yeah game isn't for you, same as how dangerous mountain climbing is some people's idea of a good time
But the english version is probably the worst one to try, using german + subs is the way to play
>play in G*rman
no ty ahmed
? Anon it's a prison colony with mostly white people except like 4 people, two of which are women
My point is that playing it in an alien tongue is what you may be missing
the guy you replied to wasn't me, im
this goes for you too forgot to reply to both of you
my bad
You're supposed to play with German audio, that's why
voice acting fix is not enough for me, the feeling of being trapped is the worst of the 2 offenders. even when the games are limited due to technology, i want to be given the feeling that i can roam freely everywhere i want, without the shackles of society (in-game society) trying to dictate what i should do. this is why the game is just not for me, saying only zoomers or americans dislike it is just plain wrong which is why i replied OP in my first post. get that idea out of your head that only a certain demographic hate it.
>Prison
>not satisfying
Whoah
retard
While the setting is pretty much a prison and the objective is escaping, it really doesn't feel like a prison tbh considering the variety of locations, stuff to do and enemies to slay
>but the PRISON COLONY
is a McGuffin to keep the story moving forward, game is about social climbing and wacking stuff you couldn't a few hours ago
Sorry, I don't play g*rm*an games.
Actually played it for the first time in december, after years of wanting to give it a try but never doing so because the controls looked like shit.
I was surprised at how intuitive everything feels after like 30 min into the game, and how modern the game feels despite being obviously old as fuck.
Everything about it just felt right. Nice story to keep you wanting to go foward, interesting world that makes you want to explore and the carefully placed roadblocks to keep you remembering each place.
Went through 1 and 2 straight and loved it, despite some difficulty spikes and obvious fluff in the end parts of both games.
Considering i'm so depressed i can barely play 30 min of anything these days, i did both one after the other and it was great.
After getting burned with Morrowind, Mount and Blade Warband, and Dragons Dogma I have finally learned my lesson.
Yes it was only 15 bucks but man those games are awful so I can't imagine Gothic being the exception.
>Mount and Blade Warband
>awful
Morrowing and Warband are huge and can cause a massive burnout, but i didn't get that from DD, didn't get from Gothic either, event though i can't play shit for long these days.
Hard to blame amerifats when Europeans, specifically eastern euros have dogshit taste in games. Many of my euro friends refuse to play older games because they look "dated". As a mutt I grew up on the best games ever made, the golden age of PC and console gaming. Can europoors say the same?
move overrated game on pc EVER
germans can't into good games, especially the bugs man, horrible. when this shitter was released you could BARELY play it on any pc wtihout a shitload of patches via cd magazins.
I'm sorry but it's just a totally shit game. The only thing I like is the rpg storyline elements and the map design, but I couldnt play more than a few hours of each risen and that sequel. the combat is atrocious. the inventory manamgement archaic.
This was released when you could play KINO games like BG2 or IWD or arcanum or even morrowind. IT is not a good game. The fact that you can sell drugs doesnt just suddenly make it an AMAZING game. it has way too many flaws.
If you want good combat in an rpg play pic related (and use stamina mod)