>64: 290 games
>Sega Saturn: 1100 games
>PlayStation: 3000+ games
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it's about quality not quantity which is why I own a PS5
So, you got nothing
Name a bad 64 game
smash bros
That looks fricking awesome
I know it's a meme, but I actually tried to sit down and play Superman 64. that game is genuinely a piece of shit
The company's founder says they had a much better game almost ready, but some moron higher-up at Warner decreed at the last minute that Superman was not allowed to fight human-like enemies. So they had to slap something together under a crazy tight deadline.
>but some moron higher-up at Warner decreed at the last minute that Superman was not allowed to fight human-like enemies.
this is bullshit but i believe it
I believe it. Learning about how these publishers run their companies, games like this were shat out all the time. especially the licensed garbage
>Superman was not allowed to fight human-like enemies
Clark fights a Kryptonian in level 2.
All
Name 20 good N64 exclusives.
I could name 40 PS1 exclusives easy if not more if i had the time.
i can name 200 good N64 exclusives but i dont have the time
I asked you to name 20 not 200.
MGS1
Suikoden 2
FFVII
FFIX
Syphon Filter
Symphony of the Night
Crash
Crash 2
Crash 3
Spyro
Spyro 2
Spyro 3
Silent Hill
FF Tactics
Vagrant story
Front Mission 3
Corno Cross
Tekken 3
Soul Blade/Edge
Tomb Raider 1
Tomb Raider 2
Grandia
Alundra
Grand Tursimo
Wipeout
Twisted Metal 2
Rogue Trip
Tenchu
Tenchu 2
Legend of dragoon
Klonoa
Megaman X 4
Silent Bomber
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Tomba
Saga Frontier
Saga Frontier 2
Legend of Mana
R-Type Delta
Parasite Eve
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Parapa the Rapper
.....
I am waiting
Too many movies and shit games.
Banjo 1
Banjo 2
Banjo Monkey
Banjo Race
Zelda 1
Zelda 2
Mario
Mario Paper
Mario Race
Mario Race in Space
Mario Fight
Mario Tennis
Mario Bond
Mario Bond but girl
Operation Winback
Rocket Robot on Wheels
GTA but in space
Snowboard
Snowboard but Kids
Snowboard but Kids 2
Doom
All of these games are boring. I’m getting the og xbox.
OoT/MM
SM64
BK
Rocket robot on wheels
SF64
SnP
Space station silicon valley
SSB
DKR
Mario Kart
Goldeneye
PD
Pokemon Stadium 1/2
Pokemon Puzzle League
Fzero X
Mario Party 2/3
Goemon
Mario Golf
Mischief Makers
Starcraft 64
Some I'm unsure if multiplat?
Star wars pod racing
rogue squadron
Shadow man
Turok 2
Shoutout to possibly the most miserable game ever made: indiana jones and the infernal machine. It's not a broken pile of memes like superman 64. It's just the worst tomb raider clone with factor 5s production values and 300% more content than anyone wanted.
1. Super Mario 64
2. Shadows of the Empire
3. Blast Corps
4. Bomberman 64
5. Diddy Kong Racing
6. Mischief Makers
7. Mystical Ninja: Starring Goemon
8. Star Fox 64
9. Turok 1
10. Turok 2
11. Banjo-Kazooie
12. Body Harvest
13. Ocarina of Time
14. Majora's Mask
15. Donkey Kong 64
16. Duke Nukem Zero Hour
17. Jet Force Gemini
18. Perfect Dark
19. Conker's Bad Fur Day
20. Castlevania Legacy of Darkness
>20. Castlevania Legacy of Darkness
might as well add superman 64 on that list.
>No buck bumble
any game on N64 with low FPS and stretched, blurry textures is bad, so I'd say easily half of the catalogue. From top of my head Carmageddon 64, Batman Beyond, Armorines or Extreme G, they're barely playable and Batman is just awful, feels like a shovelware.
glover
>glover
>bad
That game is pure soul.
Oh glover is pure western slop, not even worth touching lol. Had that shit on the 64 in the 90s. Waste of a birtyday gift
You take that back
Superman
Castlevania
DK64
Daikatana
Earthworm Jim 3D
Most games on the 64 are unplayably bad, the entire catalogue is held up by OoT, SM64, Banjo, Castlevania, Smash, and Mario Kart, which incidentally is like a quarter of the library right there.
name a good one. they're all early 3d slop running at 15fps.
Doesn't perfect dark run at 30 fps?
wouldn't know, I was a playstation chad.
Yeah, just checked. Perfect dark runs at 30 fps*
*Assuming there is no major explosions going on, you have high rez mode turned off, and you're not in a few particular areas. To be fair, the explosions that do cause frame drops are usually tied to self destruct sequences, so you're dead anyway, and those few area's are solely in single player campaign and are not present in multiplayer, where that would be a huge issue.
You broccoli hairs forget just how common bad performance was in that generation in general. With the exception of fighting games, most 3D shit runs like ass and/or has a draw distance of three feet.
f-zero x runs at 60. crash also runs at a solid 30. i feel like devs were too busy circlejerking over ebin new 3d grafix to care about making the game run at a decent framerate even though there's plenty of examples of games managing to do it.
Same shit happened with gen 7 and devs circlejerking too hard over HD to make their games run well.
Not the FPS!!! NOOOO THE FRAMES!!! IM GOING INSANE AAHHHHHHHH!!!!
Superman 64
Daikatana
Quest 64
Cruisin' USA
Conker Bad Fur Day
Pretty much all of them. Play any game on an actual N64 and not an emulator and you will understand what i mean.
>Play any game on an actual N64 and not an emulator
You were about to say something stupid so please explain further
90% of the Playstation is shovelware.
Even cutting that 90% out it would still be more games than the entire N64 library and the N64 only has like 5 truly good games. I grew up with the N64, the library for it was not great.
>most popular system has......LE SHOVELWARE
Reminder this argument is only made by morons, homosexuals, and children. Also Saturn had more variety than Nshitty4
No good 3D platformers.
>Crash
>Spyro
>Gex
>no good 3D platformers
Meanwhile N64 has no good
>fighting game(s)
>RPGs of any kind
>N64 was the king of weird-ass games that may not be the best games, but were still interesting and fun
What? PS1 had Incredible Crisis, Pepsiman, and Dream Emulator. Way more "weird ass" games than N64.
>>no good 3D platformers
Are you illiterate? I was referring to the Saturn. That piece of junk has shit-all for 3D platformers. Just shovelware like Bug.
Can taste the bitterness from a 64 owner here
90% of the Switch is shovelware too but you guys still jerk it off.
*PS5
The Nintendo 64 might three handedly be responsible for the delusion many have that old games have "aged poorly." Truth is these games aren't good and going back to them outside of their hype window has only revealed them as such.
Did DF accidentally prove that framerate doesn't matter? Remember that N64 won.
Saturn won in Japan. Sega just fricked up globally and made a bunch of baffling, shitty decisions.
>Saturn won in Japan.
Fat lot of good that did SEGA, especially by how razor-thin the margin was. And with how much more N64 games still sold.
>The Nintendo 64 might three handedly be responsible for the delusion many have that old games have "aged poorly." Truth is these games aren't good and going back to them outside of their hype window has only revealed them as such.
The most frustrating shit is that the N64 had the most advanced games of the generation, but it took Rare or Nintendo in-house developers to make the most of it due to its complexity and insane bottlenecks. Remove the various bottlenecks hampering the system, make it easier to code for, and it'd be WAY more popular.
Hinderances:
>Complexity means few can get the most out of the system
>Complexity means that cross-platform ports are much harder
>Cartridges meant reduced space and higher game cost
>texture cache meant insanely low res textures that are quite laughable
Right. I'm more annoyed at the missed chance, since I like the N64, and really wish it was more. The PS and DC were better consoles (just compare the racing games!). Even the Gamecube was way better balanced (multi-platform games REALLY helped).
geimu of your pic?
World Driver Championship
World Driver Championship, which is a game that annoys me to no end! It has fantastic graphics, some of the best for the N64, and tries to be the Gran Turismo for hte N64, but it's not that good of a game. It's very grindy, veyr samey, the cars have low traction for some reason. It can't decide if its Gran Turismo or Sanfranscio Rush.
Truly, the PS and Dreamcast racers are just BETTER. I pick up new ones all the time and it feels endless.
Perfect example of what I'm talking about. All this potential and it's WASTED.
wut gaem?
>n64 haters are e-celeb wienersuckers and people like slimer from DF
Not a good look.
name 290 good playstation games
>PlayStation: 3000+ games
heaping mountain of shovelware since the barrier of entry was significantly lower
>Sega Saturn: 1100 games
vast majority of them are weebshit never released outside of japan
If you want to play jrpgs, shootemups, beatemups, tactical games, narrative games, action rpgs, survival horrors, realistic or semi realistic car games, rythm games fighting games, strategy games, games focused on atmosphere... N64 has nothing to offer you.
If you don't care that much about the safe, bland and repetitive games for normies from Nintendo and Rare, N64 has very little to offer you. Konami and Treasure were the two companies that made games that weren't designed by a committee, but they weren't enough to save N64s library.
If you wanted to keep playing all the non-Nintendo series that you loved on your 8 bits and 16 bits consoles, N64 has almost nothing to offer you. If you love video games instead of loving one specific brand, N64 is an extremely limited console and quite easily the worst succesful console of all times.
I like games, not cooming over lists of what genres are heckin represented on my snoy (pbuh) machine.
boy do I have a game for you
https://dearthdev.itch.io/tricky-madness
Most of the N64 library was racing games.
Truly a vroomer console.
>car racing
>wave race
>excitebike 64
SF Rush 2049 is goated
>Truly a vroomer console.
>has the worst classic ridge racer game
I've always been curious what the n64 could have achieved if it wasn't limited to cartridges and used CDs.
Do you just keep making this thread here because you'll know you'll get banned if you try this shit in /vr/?
No I make it because /vr/ already knows the deal with the N64. It's Ganker that struggles to defend it, you can tell they're on the precipice of breaking. I make much more fun posts on /vr/, you wouldn't even think I'm the same person if you saw them.
>n64 haters are dysgenic
We already know.
290 good games against 1100 and 3000+ games that are mostly shit
Funny how tendies praise Nintendo consoles for being the one that focus on gameplay and the N64 was full of games that ran at low FPS and weren't challenging at all, the N64 was the anti-gameplay console of that generation.
Daily tendie anger thread? The N64 had neither quality nor quantity, no matter how much you want to pretend OoT revolutionized anything.
The fact that people bring up how games "revolutionized" anything as if that is an excuse for their actual quality, i don't care if an FPS on console did anything innovative, they are all trash, Space Invaders didn't innovate much of anything and its still a solid videogame in 2024.
You weren't there.
>You weren't there.
I'm older than you and know that journalists have always been morons. Nintendo calling it "Z targeting" doesn't mean they invented lock on. You didn't play other games in the 90s and as such your opinion is objectively worthless.
Yeah you definitely weren't there.
I was. You definitely didn't play TR (or any other non-Nintendo games) in the 90s.
What the frick is up with the anti-OoT-targeting people and why are they such morons? Like, I wouldn't even claim that it's actually *the first* to do it's style of targeting, but the only other existing games that played anything like that at the time were extremely obscure shit that barely anyone, including critics of Zelda, seemed to have heard of in the west until recently and were universally much clunkier mechanically. People were quite right to react to it the way they did, and even then Z-targeting is one of the more minor things things the game in terms of how important it is to the game's overall quality.
Who gives a shit what camera did that walking simulator have, the game still runs at 15 FPS and is mostly carried by things that aren't related to the gameplay.
>PS3: No games
>Sega Saturn: 1100 games
You mean 3 good games and the rest being worse ports of playstation games?
muh OOT
muh Mario 64
Was saturn that good?
No but it had a few games, less than N64 if we're counting games actually worth playing.
moron
People are "rediscovering" it now because you can easily get any game online and fan translations exist. It has a lot of sRPGs that people didn't get to play.
Japans always sleeps on releasing their RPGs to other countries. They might not be the biggest genre, but they always consistently sell well enough that it makes no sense to keep them away. Bet if Saturn made itself the RPG console Sega would still be making consoles to this day.
Nintendo almost cut Marth and Roy from the western releases of Melee. The Japanese mind is incomprehensible sometimes.
only for japs. most of the good stuff didn't get imported. also tons of great arcade ports
It sold better in japan than the n64.
No, hence why saturngays would rather make daily N64 hate threads instead of playing their system.
Daily reminder that the saturn was outsold by the fricking 3DO in north america.
The objective top 50, if a game isn't here then it isn't worth playing
>NBA
>No Sin & Punishment
Gay
Saturn doesn't have any good 3D platformers.
>3rd
more like consolation prize after the competition was over
while i agree ps1 have more games worth playing than n64
>quantity= quality
moron
Are there any actual hidden gems on the n64? I feel like the library is so small that every game worth playing is well-known. It's not like other consoles where there's usually at least one recently-translated game that barely anyone knows about.
N64 is popular amongst hobbyists so there's less chance of sleeper games. I bet you most people couldn't even name 10 Saturn games
NiGHTS, Panzer Dragoon, Doom.
Uh. Sonic Spinball? Resident Evil, Megaman X4. Shit. Fricking uh, Gimme me a moment. Waterworld? Oh, uh, that one claymation game. Shit, Clayfighters also had a Saturn release. Also earthworm jim special edition, and earthworm jim 2. Virtua Fighter, Phantamagoria, Night Stalker.
That legit took me a minute, and I'm certain some of this list is wrong.
>N64 is popular amongst hobbyists
If by hobbyists you mean tendies and not people who actually play games, sure.
I've seen a lot of N64 games that get zero discussion even if they're good, probably because they're not made by Nintendo/Rare or don't look "interesting".
Some I played that I would recommend:
>Robotron 64
>Lode Runner 3D
>Iggy's Reckin Balls
>Stunt Racer 64
>Nuclear Strike 64
>Space Invaders
>Wetrix
>Tetrisphere
>Puyo Puyo Sun
>Taisen Puzzle Dama 64
>Rocket Robot on Wheels
>Star Soldier Vanishing Earth
>Wipeout 64
>Shadowgate 64
>Zool 64
>Shiren 2
>Super Robot Wars 64
>SD Hiryuu no Ken Densetsu
>Choro Q 2
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE NO!
DON'T POST THOSE!
Alright homosexual give me 10 must play Sega saturn games that have not been ported
hello, anyone?
PS1 owners who shit on the N64 annoy the hell out of me, Nintendo was quality over quantity while PlayStation was 90% shovelware.
Can you sony ponies even name 15 good PS1 games that aren’t Crash, Spyro, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Tekken or Resident Evil?
>Nintendo was quality over quantity
No it wasn't. SM64 was fine and MM was pretty good. OoT and Goldeneye were always casual trash. There was no magical nintendo quality.
>Can you sony ponies even name 15 good PS1 games that aren’t Crash, Spyro, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Tekken or Resident Evil?
Funny that you had to name 6 series with multiple games, but okay.
Ape Escape
Megaman X4
Digimon World
Brave Fencer Musashi
SotN
Wild Arms 2
Tomba
Tomba 2
Klonoa
Twisted Metal 2
Silent Hill
Alundra
Armored Core
Tenchu
Valkyrie Profile
And before you say "Those are all shit" take a second to think about how objectively moronic writing off games you've never played is. Meanwhile, I've actually played all the "quality classics" on the N64.
>Goldeneye
>casual trash
moron played it on easy mode.
>playing a console fps
>with one fricking stick
>trying to argue that it wasn't casual trash
Doom and Quake existed already.
How many sticks is a mouse?
I can't imagine being so far gone you think that was clever.
Except Doom and Quake aren't very comparable to GE beyond being FPSes. It plays quite differently for its greater focus on realism and featuring multiple objectives. You might as well emulate it with a mouse hack if you're going to be such a coping moron who got filtered by the controls.
>It plays quite differently
You mean worse? Yeah.
>filtered by the controls.
Learn what filtered means. It doesn't mean someone not liking a dogshit game.
Take a second to think about how objectively moronic writing off games you've never played is.
Parroting what I said only works if I haven't actually played Goldeneye. I have. It's shit. That upsetting you doesn't change the objective fact that I've played it and I'm calling the controls shit from a place of experience.
You got filtered by the controls that 8 million people figured out and you don't know anything about the actual gameplay. The fact is, if you think GE is casual, you either played it on easy or you're sour-graping because you, the epic hardcore gamer, can't learn adapt to a game's controls.
>You got filtered by the controls
I had no difficulty with the game. The controls are just shit. Are you so stupid that you don't understand the difference between getting filtered and just calling something shit because it's shit? Please answer the question directly.
The controls aren't shit. What is so hard to handle about its setup? You can even change it in the pause menu.
>I had no difficulty with the game
So you played it on the baby mode. You're certainly far too casual to unlock the secret levels.
>The controls aren't shit.
They are. There's a reason that one stick shooters are literally not a thing anymore, even on Nintendo consoles.
>So you played it on the baby mode.
Nope. No amount of tendie anger will change that.
Because all the new controllers use two sticks now, numbnuts.
>Nope. No amount of tendie anger will change that.
Just the fact that the only thing you're complaining so much about is the controls tells me you either never played it or you played it on easy mode where you can get away with fumbling around like a moron.
>Because all the new controllers use two sticks now, numbnuts.
Yes, and there's a reason for that. Games control like absolute shit with 1 stick.
Not Goldeneye.
>doesn't deny that he either never played GE or just played on easy mode like a Polygon journalist on Doom 2016
That settles that. Follow your own advice and don't write off games you know nothing about.
>Not Goldeneye.
Yes it does.
>doesn't deny that he either never played GE or just played on easy mode
I denied it ever time you tried pretending that was the case. I stopped on the last post because it's clear you have point. You're a demented fanboy defending an objectively shit game, which is par for the course for a tendie cultist.
don't have a point*
You've said nothing that indicates you've even touched the game for any length of time. Nothing of substance whatsoever. You know this, so right on queue, you throw a tantrum about tendies, in a thread that exists just to seethe about the N64. I'm so glad I'm not a fanboy who attacks games he's never played like a homosexual.
>You've said nothing that indicates you've even touched the game for any length of time
In your mentally ill head, only praise counts as proof that you've played it.
You've never played it. All you've been doing is b***hing about the controls. Comparing it to Doom and Quake and then not saying anything about the actual gameplay further proves you don't know anything about the game and just want to attack it because it's popular. Before you answer with some more ignorant fanboy garbage, remember that you're braindead. I'm going to play some Goldeneye right now, because I play videogames.
It's not worth it. He basically admitted he'd never unlocked the extra levels or anything and is just talking out of his ass using cliche mustardrace talking points. Like, he probably had no idea how much PC FPS devs of the time loved and respected the frick out of goldeneye and more or less immediately aimed to copy its mechanics as soon as it appeared.
>Like, he probably had no idea how much PC FPS devs of the time loved and respected the frick out of goldeneye and more or less immediately aimed to copy its mechanics as soon as it appeared.
Hey look, the tendie saw someone repost the clip where Valve mentioned Goldeneye once and now pretends that PC fps devs were all inspired by it.
>Megaman 8,X4,X5,X6
>Gaia seed
>Dino Crisis 2
>Need for speed 3/high stakes
>Tony hawk pro skater 1,2,3,4
>Bust A groove 1,2
>Twisted metal 1,2,3,4
>Soul Edge
>Threads of Fate
>Metal Slug X
>Bomberman World
>Vib-Ribbon
>Syphon filter 1,2,3
>Gran turismo 1,2
>Digimon World 1,2
>Valkyrie Profile
Vib-Ribbon sucks
>Megaman X6
Come the frick on, dude.
Yes
I do enjoy fight me
I won't get anywhere near you, you'd probably try to frick me.
Even X5 got a side-eye from me.
>Can you sony ponies even name 15 good PS1 games that aren’t Crash, Spyro, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Tekken or Resident Evil?
The hell is this question. Can you name 15 good N64 games that aren't Mario, Zelda, or Banjo?
And it's insane how the N64 still won.
>inb4Sales
Nintendo has ALWAYS made more profit off of their consoles than Sony has made with the PlayStation brand.
But it's fine. Sony isn't primarly a video game company, so PlayStation doesn't need to be massively profit-generating for Sony, unlike Nintendo where video games is all they have.
i have a feeling that you don't have actually have extensive knowledge of sony and nintendo's finances going back to the 90s
I didn't even know the Saturn existed until I got internet in the late 90s/early 2000s lel. I mean honestly wtf happened there.
>I mean honestly wtf happened there.
It's been well discussed to death, but the broadest strokes are
>too expensive
>botched western launch that alienated gamers, retailers, and developers
>internal egotistical feuding between the American and Japanese sides of SEGA that muddied development politics severely (SoJ stubbornly asserting their authority as the home office, SoA arrogantly riding off the high from the admittedly smart advertising/exclusivity deals that made the Genesis a Nintendo-rivaling powerhouse in the west)
>Saturn was horrible to develop for due to (among other things but this is the most pressing issue) basically being a 2D system that was sloppily jerryrigged for 3D... in a generation where most devs were favoring 3D design
It's a hilarious irony that the Dreamcast is more well-remembered considering that it sold less, died faster, and had less games.
>your system can have 1100 games and still be completely irrelevant with next to nothing of value on it to play
Lesson in there.
There are legitimate arguments for why the PS1 is better, but this is so bottom of the barrel shit tier.
Nobody cares about mid games. Not even "good" games if we're being honest. Only the truly great games matter. These are the games that have withstood the ultimate test: the test of time. Anything else is irrelevant and only remembered for reasons of personal nostalgia, or they maybe moved their respective genre forward but otherwise have been objectively obliterated by the passage of time.
All OP's post is telling us is that the PS1 has more shovelware than the N64 does.
You want to compare the systems? Talk about the games that matter. Talk about MGS, OOT, Resident Evil, Banjo Kazooie, Chrono Trigger, Super Smash, etc.
Compare those games, Compare multiplats, Compare platform accessories.
also lmao Saturn, don't make me laugh. enjoy your quadrilaterals bro
>Nobody cares about mid games. Not even "good" games if we're being honest. Only the truly great games matter. These are the games that have withstood the ultimate test: the test of time. Anything else is irrelevant and only remembered for reasons of personal nostalgia, or they maybe moved their respective genre forward but otherwise have been objectively obliterated by the passage of time.
This is completely nonsense and without even reading the rest of your post I know you're going to pretend OoT still plays great, even though it was never good.
>This is completely nonsense
Do you have an argument as to why?
Yeah as a kid you eat whatever is in front of you and you get fond memories for all those big macs and chicken nuggets. As an adult that has to actually pay for everything, not just with money but with TIME, b
you only want to bother with truly worthwhile experiences. Nobody is going to put Glover, Sonic R, or Pokemon Stadium on a 5th gen recommendation list with a straight face.
>and without even reading the rest of your post
Nice bait bro you totally got me XD
>As an adult that has to actually pay for everything, not just with money but with TIME, b
>you only want to bother with truly worthwhile experiences.
This right here. Complete stupidity. I still try all sorts of games, even as an adult.
>This right here. Complete stupidity. I still try all sorts of games, even as an adult.
That's fine buddy but OP's post was framed as a comparison between the consoles.
Console A isn't better than console B because it has 10x the forgettable crap.
Furthermore when reccomending a console, you're not going to reccomend people set time out of their day to play mediocre experiences.
If you want to just talk about whatever-tier experiences then that's fine, but this is clearly a console war thread.
>Console A isn't better than console B because it has 10x the forgettable crap.
No, it's better because it has games. You arbitrarily saying games aren't worth trying now because they aren't worth your time doesn't change that. Your time isn't as important as you want to pretend it is.
>No, it's better because it has games
Games worth playing, yes.
Go ahead and list the 10, 20, 30, whatever amount of games on one or both consoles, then we can have the comparison. Doesn't matter which side you pick (though probably PS1 because you went out of your way to attack OOT out of nowhere)
Just saying a console has more games means nothing unless we know what games we are talking about. The N64 having 290 games isn't a useful statistic in this regard because we know one of them is Superman 64. You would not submit that for evidence
Engage with the discussion
Look through the thread. There are multiple lists of great PS1 games. One of them is mine. I could also list 20 Saturn games or PC games from the time that I like. The N64 just doesn't have any good games.
>The N64 just doesn't have any good games
ok anon
he's either a snoy fanchild or a troll
stop falling for it
>The N64 doesn't have any good games
why would you set the bar this low?
Just say the PS1 has more.
It was hyperbole, but realistically I can name maybe 5 N64 games in total that I enjoyed. That's pathetic.
>the goalpost has now moved from 0 to 5
And now we're going to find out if you're just shitposting or not. Go on then, list the "maybe 5 games" You enjoyed on the N64 and then list 5 better games on the PS1.
You've trapped yourself. You lose if you don't back up your statement with names, so you're forced to actually engage with the discussion.
>Go on then, list the "maybe 5 games"
Sure.
MM
Banjo
Banjo 2
Conker
SM64
>and then list 5 better games on the PS1
Ape Escape
SotN
Silent Hill
Crash 2
FFT
>You've trapped yourself.
How so? I actually play video games which is why I know that the N64 hand a tiny handful of decent games and that was it, whereas the PS1 has dozens of great games.
>so you're forced to actually engage with the discussion.
I never avoided it, but I fully expect a handwave reply from you about the games I listed.
>Banjo Tooie
>Conker
might as well put DK 64 on there because all 3 are lackluster rare games, especially conker. Only good thing about it is the multi.
Plenty of better N64 games.
Banjo Tooie gets on there but not OOT when MM is still there? This seems like bait.
>not OOT when MM is still there
MM is a far, far better game than OoT. It's not bait just because it isn't blinded by nostalgia.
>MM is a far, far better game than OoT.
I agree? But they both play largely the same and that was your issue with OOT.
>It's not bait just because it isn't blinded by nostalgia.
It sounds like you have a vendetta? It's still a good game even if it' overrated Kinda like Metal Gear Solid or Halo.
>But they both play largely the same
Yes, and that brings MM down. But MM has better world, dungeon, and infinitely better sidequest design which makes it a far better game overall.
>and infinitely better sidequest design
I actually disagree with this. The schedules are themselves clever, but OoT has a number of top notch quests that MM has no actual equivalent to or just poorly reuses (skulltula for example), and the schedule based quests involve way more waiting around for stuff than cleverly figuring things out. MM does have really great quests of its own, but they tend to be more obscure unique shit like the band jam session, rather than the 'famous' quests.
>but OoT has a number of top notch quests that MM has no actual equivalent to or just poorly reuses (skulltula for example)
I really, really hope you didn't just imply that the skulltula quest in OoT was dogshit. I also don't understand how you think OoT has any good sidequests at all. Straw millionaire to get a sword isn't a good quest.
In what Realm is Banjo "2" (did you even play it lol) and Conker, which relies almost exclusively on bad humor, better than Smash 64, OOT, Paper Mario, and Waverace?
>In what Realm is Banjo "2" (did you even play it lol)
Now this is pathetic. People use shorthand for sequels all the time. If someone says Spyro 3 instead of Year of the Dragon, only a genuinely mentally ill person would claim they haven't played it. You're clearly a tendie who isn't worth talking to.
>T-TENDIE!
I actually like PS1 more, calm down schizo.
Everybody knows it's tooie. The reason I questioned it is there is widely considered to be better games on the platform than Tooie, so it seemed like you were running down the list as fast as possible. If I'm wrong than I apologize.
But yeah, MK and Smash Bros not there but Tooie is? Tooie is a bloated mess with less content than the original game.
Banjo tooie and CBFD are complete ass. Go play sin and punishment right now and shut the frick up forever.
idort for life here
I prefer the PS1 myself but the idea that the N64 has "No good games" is just hilarious and makes you hard to take serious
Both consoles have great games.
>idort for life here
I stopped being an idort when consoles became watered down PCs.
>but the idea that the N64 has "No good games" is just hilarious
Not really. There's only a very small handful that are worth playing.
>There's no reason to play N64 games even though I'm going to admit there are N64 games worth playing
ok moron
>I try all sorts of games
Are you a neet? Are you even old enough to drink?
I've had jobs where I was working 60+ hour weeks and I still made time for my other responsibilities, hobbies, and games. Only dumb kids pretend time management is impossible. Hopefully you'll grow out of it.
Problem with sweaty man posters is they're purposely vague and write a wall of text just to commit to not playing games. That's all it comes down to, excuses to not play.
>That's all it comes down to, excuses to not play.
Nobody that isn't a child and has a career and life responsibilities wants to play anything that isn't really good. Simple as.
>All OP's post is telling us is that the PS1 has more shovelware than the N64 does.
Oh look another moronic baby who can't understand the best selling hardware attracts more devs, and the shovelware is just an inconvenience of that.
>also lmao Saturn, don't make me laugh. enjoy your quadrilaterals bro
Still had more variety than N64.
Are you still making these threads?
Its kind of embarrassing some people are still obsessed with a 30 year old console war.
Why are Saturngays more upset at the N64 than the Playstation despite Sony more actively and directly displacing SEGA in the console space?
easy target to aim since sonygays are also crying about the n64 being liked despite its issues.
Frick ya'll
>console wars for 30 years old consoles
You mean the only consoles or gaming platforms that matter?
In the opinion of many morons the actual great games like shmups, puzzle games and what have you don't matter since those genres aren't popular enough, what matters to them is whatever they read being hyped online by IGN and clueless youtubers
The PS1 has many more good and great games, in fact it is the greatest console of all time period, if the 4th gen was the golden age of videogames the 5th gen was still high up there with the PS1 getting pretty much every good game of that generation
lmao no. The 5th gen is shit tier compared to 4.
That transition to 3D was ROUGH. 6th gen was a vast improvement
>ps1 greatest console ever
kek
The 6th gen was decline compared to the 5th and that's undeniable, they focused a lot on FMVs and extending games as much as possible while not improving gameplay and especially not the music, its the generation when game music went to shit after all
I couldn't care less about Sony post PS2 thoughbeit, it is the greatest console of all time, educate yourself instead of overhyping movie games like Ico, Yakuza and whatever walking sim/moviegame became popular in the following gens.
>The 6th gen was decline compared to the 5th and that's undeniable
it's actually pretty obvious that 6th was better
>I couldn't care less about Sony post PS2 thoughbeit
I thought you constantly played games lol
I can tolerate opinions like
>The PS1 has many more good and great games
and might even agree with thwm, but it's disappointing when they almost always turn out to be snoy fanboys in disguise who then spout moronic shit like
>it is the greatest console of all time period
The idea that anything from gen 5 is that great is laughable. Nintendo and Sony both did better with their followups, and in nintendo' case also did better before.
The PS1 easily has the best single console library.
>it... IT JUST DOES OK
nah
>youtube comment tier shitpost
Why are you like this?
It does, zoomers will deny it since their indie games look embarassing compared to stuff that was released by professional devs back then
The 6th gen was decline, not full on decline that happened in the 7th gen but videogames were getting worse as a whole, especially japanese ones since western slop on consoles was pretty often bad and took over, the most popular PS2 games was a western series of titles with licensed soundtracks where every single thing in the games is pretty mediocre but they had a lot of "content"
What do you know?
>The 6th gen was decline
but it has better game libraries
No it didn't, it wasn't a lot worse but it had lower "highs" than the PS1, only JRPGs and arguably horror games were better on PS2
Can't think of a single american developed console game that is worth a shit other than Die Hard Trilogy 1
>No it didn't, it wasn't a lot worse but it had lower "highs" than the PS1
No? PS2 is clearly a step up
It isn't, i'm playing Gradius 5 right now and they put an unskippable cutscene in. In a shmup. That's how much they wanted to turn games into movies in the 6th gen, Gradius Gaiden didn't have this type of shit.
>the most popular PS2 games was a western series of titles
it was the same with the PS1. The most popular games were all western titles other than Final Fantasy. Difference is you had crash bandicoot and tomb raider instead of gta.
japanese games peaked in 6th gen. 7th gen was the decline for console gaming.
The most popular PS1 game was Gran Turismo 1 or 2, also videogames peaked in the 4th gen but we can agree that the 7th gen was the real decline of all gaming, not just console gaming
The Switch is by far the best modern platform because at the very least it gets a frickton of older titles, especially interesting ports of old arcade titles
>The most popular PS1 game was Gran Turismo 1 or 2
PS2 has more top selling Gran Turismo games than the PS1 had. Only San Andreas sold more.
>also videogames peaked in the 4th gen
nah
>7th gen was the real decline of all gaming, not just console gaming
It was great for handhelds and PC recovered from its decline. It really was just console gaming that declined.
>that hideous 32 bit port of Snatcher
Absolutely disgusting
Yes its bad, both the Saturn and PS1 version, the music especially was ruined
I mean...have you seen the state of console wars for modern consoles?
I would say the 64 won because it is more fondly remembered than the others. The only thing people remember of the Playstation, was having to turn it upside down so it would work.
There are definitely plenty of PS1 games well remembered, but OP putting the fricking saturn over the N64 shows this is nothing but a anti-nintendo thread. He's not actually interested in discussing the merits of these consoles.
>more fondly remembered than the others.
Among manchild israeliteTubers maybe
Let's hear about N64 from a real gamer
This was god tier gameplay on PS1
almost 30 years later and i still don't like this game
I like both PS1 and N64 games 😀
Looking through the games I have downloaded for each, I guess I do prefer PS1 games though
The N64 was shit. The entire world knows it. Only Americans are in denial of this, and they're the ones pozzing the entire planet so their opinion doesn't count.
>he's from an irrelevant country
now it starts all making sense
funniest bit about your post is that 99% of the games you love from the N64 were created by japs and brits
i think all of the 5th gen consoles are equally good 🙂
too many people with erectile dysfunction and prostate cancer in this thread lol
and here comes the passive agressive zoomie, come back when you learn to argue less like a woman
thanks for the (you), here's one back
Zoomers shouldn't be allowed to comment on consoles made before they were born.
Do Sega fans really believe this? They had a good run with the Genesis but they were a distant third afterwards.
They weren't a distant third, after all there is nothing as good as Battle Garegga or Rayforce on N64
>you see if I mentioned these obscure games that no one has ever heard of they can't prove me wrong!
Then why does literally no one remember these games? Is it part of the grand Nintendo conspiracy to revise history and cover up the insane popularity of these games and how the Saturn actually sold far more than the N64?
>these obscure games
Battle Garegga isn't obscure. It's every poser's favorite shmup
Its pretty nuts to think about. Im old but im still discovering new insanely cool Saturn and PS1 games to play in 2024. Meanwhile the 64 has sucked absolute shit for almost 30 years.
I liked both the N64 and PS1. My neighbor was the only person I knew in my life that owned a Saturn.
So are these threads just made by one assmad saturngay
nope snoys still use the PS2 selling well as a win talking about the present. not only the PS2 but the N64 still gets seethe threads even tho N64 was the superior cosnole lmao
Those are just the people in your head, nobody cares that the PS2 sold well except copers.
>Those are just the people in your head, nobody cares that the PS2 sold well except copers.
Jim Ryan literally pulled 4AM receipt dumps for 5 million more PS2s out of his ass on his last day as CEO. Last month.
That's nice, he should know how many of them were manufactured. Why does it bother you? You aren't in control of console sales and at best have a single digit impact on them even if you think posting about "teh snoys" all day on Ganker is winning a console war.
here's the copers:
not an argument and not the point Black person. feel free to back your claims up any time
Still waiting for you to justify why you're obsessed over the sales of a 25 year old console that isn't even the subject of the thread. Does it selling 160,000,000 units bother you? I have no idea why tendiecopers are so mad about this. It's a great console with literally hundreds of great games, are you mad the only Nintendo consoles with games are even older than the PS2? And exclusively 2D?
>making shit up
>can't even link a thread
MY FRICKING SIDES
>It's a great console with literally hundreds of great games, are you mad the only Nintendo consoles with games are even older than the PS2? And exclusively 2D?
you have yet to explain why. I guess it's because you can't
nope. we have a genuine example of a N64 seethe thread made by snoys gloating about the past since they don't have shit in the present. now back up your claims or shut the frick up Black person
>Those are just the people in your head, nobody cares that the PS2 sold well
lol
lmao even
yes
nah, bruva
snoys are about 10% of the posters on Ganker but they are responsible for 95% of the shitposting
sounds about right
yep
true
truth
BASED BASED BASED
Correct
true
Despite being 13% of the population, snygger make up more than 90% of all shitposts
You haven’t proven that moron, you just made a claim
>501 Wii U votes
Ganker had the most disproportionate ratio of Wii U owners anywhere outside of dedicated Nintendo fansites. I didn't realize just how poorly the Wii U did until years later since Ganker always seemed to have plenty of discussion for its games.
As much as people pretend otherwise, a lot of Ganker actually likes games.
that explains why ps3 was the most owned 7th gen console on Ganker
No, its a yuropoor sonygay from /vr/.
People that b***h about the N64 library never played Mischief Makers, Goemon, Bomberman, Castlevania, Sin and Punishment, Harvest Moon, Blast Corps, Chameleon Twist, Custom Robo, Bangaio etc
The biggest insult the N64 did to their owners was the quality of the music, aside from some dozens of games that still sounded pretty good even with all the limitations the poor handling of the audio hurt so many games, in primis Sin and Punishment. It also doesn't help that a lot of the library was western games and those tend to have shit soundtracks regardless of platform
the N64 managed to have no good music on it, incredible because saturn and PS1 music is timeless and some of the best ever composed meanwhile the N64 is exclusively shit midi that sounds worse than snes music.
That's an exaggeration and your shit comment about "midi" doesn't help, regardless of the type of instruments they used the music files on N64 had to be compressed at a time when the PS1 and Saturn had no such restrictions
PS1 games were made for the PS1, what made them great is that they were released on THAT specific console, not the PS2, the PS2 was trash for many genres and said games would have been much worse on that platform.
>That's an exaggeration
Not really. N64 music is the least appealing of its era. Even if the PS1 and Saturn were playing back samples the quality was a colossal leap ahead.
PS1 games were compressed too. 22kHz instead of 44.klHz
That's only if they used the sound chip.
>be N64 kid growing up
>same for Gamecube and Wii
>become an adult
>have money to go and check out what the big deal was
>get to enjoy a decade of PS1 and PS2 games I missed out on
>got to revisit the few PS games I'd play at a friend's house
>feelsgoodman.jpg
Literally just crippling yourself by staying on one side of the fence. Even better is getting into all the other niche stuff like TG-16 and NeoGeo.
Number of games always seemed like a stupid point of comparison if both still had more good games than you would likely ever be able to afford at the time of release.
Backwards compatibility of later consoles also made it a better deal to just wait until then too. If you wanted the most games total and only went one console a generation, then you'd end up better off going N64 > PS2 > Wii, since you'd get access to the PS1/GCN by default.
BC honestly cheapens the original system for me by quite a bit. PS2 doesn't FEEL like the powerhouse that I know it was because 80% of the good games on it got some sort of port or remaster down the way.
Those ports and demasters are universally agreed upon to be inferior downgrades.
>make nice neutral posts highlighting the pros of each system
>no replies
Alright, frick you guys then, I'm out to go enjoy my retro gaming. I doubt half of you have so much as seen the original hardware this decade.
You expected too much from this thread, the OP has been doing it for years just to screech about the N64.
n64 is garbage
>t. still mad their parents never bought them an N64
Don't even pretend the Saturn's 3D platformers aren't pathetic tech demos.
>Burning Rangers
lol
N64 was the king of weird-ass games that may not be the best games, but were still interesting and fun.Shit like Space Station Silicon Valley, Wetrix, Iggy's Reckin Balls, etc. It felt like that was a period of time where basically any idea got approved and devs were experimenting with whatever they wanted. None of those games would get approved today, outside of an indie studio or something.
Huh? I thought that Nintendo was an evil overlord stifling creativity in the whole industry while Sony was their savior?...
>None of those games would get approved today,
All of those games would get approved today.
>he thinks the N64 was the console for weird/experimental games
>he doesn't know
The Saturn somehow has more weird ass games than any other console.
stop this fake console war homosexualy. everyone knows the only true console war was SNES vs Genesis, maybe followed by PS3 vs 360 but that was for 2nd place since Wii won. everything else was a blowout for the winning console
N64 was a massive flop with only a handful of good games. This is not an anti-nintendo post. I love the DS, 3DS and Switch libraries. I even thought GCN and Wii U were fine. The N64 however just straight up sucks. Mario and Zelda are not enough to save it.
>Wii U were fine
Opinion immediately discarded