>78000X3D
>4090 or 7900 XTX
Why haven't you moved to PC yet? You have no excuses.
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>78000X3D. >4090 or 7900 XTX
>78000X3D
>4090 or 7900 XTX
Why haven't you moved to PC yet? You have no excuses.
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waiting for 5090 and 9800X3d later this year
Sir? You're 6090 TI and 10800X3D?
>not waiting for the 7090 and 11800X3D
Your future proofing?
I have a 12700k and 7800 XT because they were both dirt cheap
Gets the job done
>>4090
I have but I'm not moronic going for a burning cable connector
just get the 7900 xtx
There is good deals for amd cards and CPU, the 7800X3D around 300 dollars is worth the money IMO but you can get the 7700x which is like 200 dollars for only 10-20% less power depending on games, the gap is only wider in games which makes use of the 3d cache.
I am poor but I managed to save enough money to make a 2400 dollars PC and hey a 800 dollars 4k TV (HDR and 144hz) because games are my main hobby.
>just get the 7900 xtx
amd shill spotted
how is pcbg doing these days? I noticed you and your nvidia buttbuddy keep fighting for OP's
It was about a choice between 4090 and 7900xtx, last time I've gone to Ganker was to get advices on pc building.
The best performance/value would be either the 7900 GRE or the 4070 super, the rest cost a lot.
4080 super in america cost just 100 more dollars than the 7900 XTX yes but in Europe the 4080 still cost like 200-300€ more.
I don't give a shit about memetracing.
meanwhile back in 2020
>It was a choice between the 5600 and a 2060
>I went with the 5600 because nobody will need more than 6Gb VRAM ever,
>I don't care for hi-res textures
Even Nvidia shills recognize that 4090 isn't worth the price.
It definitely is for productivity but only if you need that much power in the first place. Severely overpriced for gaming.
okay I take it back, sorry
I wouldn't recommend anyone ever get an amd gpu in current year, even outside of gaming
Trust me, if you lived in Europe, you would buy AMD despite electricity cost (undervolting is the way), Nvidia goes way too far with the price.
>I wouldn't recommend anyone ever get an amd gpu in current year,
moron like you are why idiots buying shitty and more expensive RTX 3050 instead of RX 6600.
>Buying low end Nvidia cards.
ISHIGIDIBILABIDY.
I wish I had as much influence on the GPU market which that anon has. I'd be rich.
What is Nvidia marketing department?
I wouldn't put up many Dior adverts in Botswana, would you?
is it just the 4090 that has the burning cables or is that just a general 40 series gpu thing?
It's the higher end 40 series cards that need the 12 pin power connector. nVidia house fire strikes again.
i dont think the 4080 has that problem, its just the 4090 needs an actual nuclear reactor to power it
Name 5 games released within the past 5 years that JUSTIFIABLY require absurd amounts of computing power
>absurd computing power
>can run a game at 4k
lol poorgays should just be quiet. Your coping is moronic
>can run a game at 4k
You can't, though. That's the fricking point you LARPing poorgay sperg.
>people don't need this much computing power
>but you can't run 4k
which is it, moron?
Both you moron.
4K is a giant meme, that was part of the point.
I'm probably pulling the trigger on this on Monday, I'll throw in a 4090 , have it connected to my 4k monitor and use it as my spare PC.
>1600w
1k is enough
lol don't ever give out buying advice.
a 4090 overclocked doesn't even need over 1k.
I can draw 900w with a 4090 and 13900k with both hitting 100%
A 14900KS can draw another 100w over a 13900k
so there's that.
>using Intel housefire
lmao
>saying anything which draws the same power as a hifi amplifier causes a house fire
holy frick thirdies are morons
>morons and poorgays seething
>twitter words console homosexual analy devastated
4k is pointless
so are poorgays.
so is playing video games, what's your fricking point
AMD CPUs are affordable and efficient it's GPUs that have jumped the shark
Dragons dogma 2.
Hogwarts legacy
Cyerpunk
Red dead 2 (not even 5 years old yet....)
Elden ring
>hogwarts
>dd2
He said justifiably
>cyberpunk
>elden ring
>red dead
All get 60-120fps on my 5700xt and 3700x rig without sacrificing visuals
Dragons Dogma 2.
My brother uses that setup to occasionally play CS2.
There aren't any, however the lower end graphics like RX 6600 are great for playing slightly older titles in 4k. I have the money to get a high end rig but like you said nothing new is worth playing anymore.
i upgraded from 1080 to 3080ti some time ago and i liked fancy graphics in cyberpunk a lot, also I really appreciate performance bump for VR, and some less demanding games still ran significantly better on 4k tv. Then i went back to mount&blade to waste another 100h of my life and it kinda ran the same as on 1080, which ran the same as on 1060, and that ran the same as on 770.
owning anything over mid-tier in 2024 is mostly just kind of an enthusiast choice, you don't do that to get specific direct gains in specific games, you just buy one to be safe for potential good new releases. for example, I'm looking forward to KCD2 now, and I'm happy i've got this 3080ti because 1080 was already struggling in KCD1 a little bit
Too expensive
If I were to build a new system (mine is from 2017) it would definitely feature the 7800X3D.
It's extremely power efficient, and all I look for is power efficiency, because here 1kWh of electricity costs 40cents.
I would pair it with a RTX 4060 TI, which I would undervolt, so it only takes 120 Watt for the most demanding games.
>LARPing poorgay can't even name a single game
I don't even accept your concession, have a nice day
Because for the price of a 4090 I could buy a PS5, XSX and Switch.
>Pentium 4 3.0G
>FX5200 (PCI ver)
Yep, it's gaming time.
Still using my 1060
im still on a GTX 970
it has performed admirably but i really should look into upgrading the whole rig, i just can't really justify it since i dont play any demanding shit (atm)
My homie, I ain't upgrading any time soon, all AAA games aren't worth playing and all the indie games I play don't require anything crazy. israelitevidia isn't getting my money anytime soon
1060 is still enough to play AAA games at 1080p anyway.
honestly 3rd worlders should just end it. the paywall for real gaming is $4000 in 2024 and will go up to $5000 with the release of the 5090. whats even the point of keeping going if you cannot afford a real gaming PC
>5600x, b550 mobo, 16GB ddr4, ssd - $280
>rtx 3060 12GB - $260
>case, psu, blowjob from a hooker - $160
Total $700 for a fine 1080p computer.
>1080p
Just buy a console lmao
Can it run a compiler?
>poorgays triggered
>no I'm not poor. I choose to buy shit
>sugesting a toy computer (cucksole) to anons
>projecting poverty on others
>moron thinks over spending on a want makes them a "non-poor"
Blowing money on stupid shit is the hallmark of poor people. How much equity do you have in your house? How much in your retirement accounts?
>moron financial adviser has arrived to tell everyone with high end PC's that they should be saving money for the future, so they can afford high end PC's
shut up you absolute mong
Lol, no. High end PCs are a stupid investment no matter the age. I'm talking about wanting to actually retire one day before you fricking die.
>I've never had fun in my entire life
Measuring your self worth against a gayman PC is peak cringe.
>coping about wasting their money on shit hardware
>dumb mutt gaygay clueless about computing
>he's brown
why buy a console when a PC plays infinitely more games, and all for free?
What games?
>just buy a console with no games bro
>console lmao
and play games at 30fps in 2024? lmao indeed
2024 and playing 1080p is worse. lol, I've not seen anything 1080p for like 15 years.
You are seeing upscaled garbled mess at sub 30fps.
>1080p is worse
>than 30fps
what kind of cope is this? anyway the 3060 is comparable to a 1070. my 1070 can still run many modern games at 2k/144hz. it could probably run less optimized/more intense games at 1080/60hz.
iirc consoles STILL have issues hitting 60fps which is just hilarious
>horizon forbidden west
>The Resolution Mode offers native 4K graphics while running the game at just 30fps. While the Performance Mode will give you 60fps but only offers checkerboarded 1800p.
https://www.gamingbible.com/news/horizon-forbidden-west-runs-best-on-ps5-at-30fps-20220216
i reinstalled windows and had to set my monitor's refresh rate back to 144. frick 4k if what i'm looking at is a choppy mess anyway. what are they doing? it's been over a decade bro
>only 1 24.5" 1440p display
>it's impossible to find / buy
>has shit response times anyway
not upgrading, chud.
It'll be good for emails and browsing/
Post 1 (one) game out of all pc games ever made it cannot run?
That PC wouldn't get 10fps in Dragon's Dogma 2
Thats a blatant lie.
Tech illiterate gaygay mutt.
Then Dragon's Dogma is an unoptimized piece of shit that does not deserve to be bought. It has literally no reason not to run properly on those specs, it doesn't look that good.
Nah those specs are shit.
Frick off moron.
You and your ilk are the reason devs don't optimize their shit anymore, stupid c**ts will just eat up the "just upgrade bro" excuse and keep spending progressively more and more to run games that have no reason to be that demanding.
>waaaah waaaah I'm a poor incel waaaah
>(you)
I don't know what any of those numbers mean.
I did, 2 years ago, after a decade of not having an up to date (or even really working) PC I got too annoyed and built one.
>i5 12400f
>rx6600 6gb
>16gb ram
Added another 16gb ram this year. I've really been enjoying playing PC games again.
>bought a 4090
>still using 1080p monitor
>I'll never have to upgrade again
You will when the 1080p QDOLED flat panels finally hit the market goi
>Got a 4090
>1440p
I'm using it for sd and LLM I hope 5090 will have more vram, it's terrible for games
they'll frick up the drivers eventually
King shit
Man I remember buying gtx 580 for like $500 back in the day. What the frick happened?
crypto, scalpers, covid, and israelites
Pc games don't have physical copies anymore and I like to own my games
>consolegays think that someone can remove a game from your hard drive
lol
You somehow completely misinterpreted the intent behind his words.
But I have.
>Ryzen 5600X3D
>RTX 4090
I have no reason to upgrade from my 3060 Ti and my i5-12400 when I only play at 1080p.
i need to upgrade from this thing but i''ll probably need a new mobo and i've never upgraded to another mobo on an existing build
It's pretty straightforward anon. All mobos are built to specific form factors so if you have an ATX (full size) you can swap in another ATX and it will be the exact same size. Whether or not all of your bits and pieces plug in can easily be checked via pcpartpicker.
The only notable things that come up with new mobos is you'll probably need new ram if you had DDR4.
Swapping mobo and cpu is aids especially if it’s really old to new. Had to reinstall windows and wiped all my data. Had to clone partitions I needed over. Going into it I thought it would be as easy as this
but it’s not.
I didn't need to reinstall my os when going from some old as frick intel cpu to a zen 3 cpu but I don't use windows
>RTX4090
>128GB of DDR5 @ 8000mhz
>Only play RPG maker hentai games and porn MMD vids
Yep it's gaming time
at least make sure you have madvr setup good plus frame generation integrated into media player classic to put that video card to work when you're watching your videos of mongolians basket weaving
as far as graphics cards, I don't have any faith that the 5080 or 5090 will be reasonably priced anytime within a year of their release so I am getting a 4080 super to pair with my 5800x3d and I'll make do with that until at least another generation of CPUs where I'll upgrade my mobo+cpu+ram, pair the 4080 super with that until I can get a decent upgrade to the graphics card for ~$1,000
I game at 1440p 21:9 so it's not as demanding as 4K.
>at least make sure you have madvr setup good plus frame generation integrated into media player classic to put that video card to work when you're watching your videos of mongolians basket weaving
That sounds like an awful idea. Post some examples of this shit
madVR is what all the real home theater nerds and enthusiasts use to upscale and enhance their movies and videos, you don't need to use frame generation on top of it if that's not your cup of tea
you can crank up some of those upscalers and filters to the point a 1080P video upscaled to 4K will use 100% of a 4090 and ask for more
https://github.com/OneNiNE87/madVR
https://kokomins.wordpress.com/2021/03/27/mpc-hc-and-madvr-setup-guide/
>cup of tea
In your case, wouldn’t it be a cup of cum, troony?
weak bait, i accept your concession
thanks anon, i've been meaning to setup madvr but i've been too lazy to and i didn't know where to start
XTX all day. $1600 for heckin reflections is a joke
XTX is a great card but if you look at the 4080 Super it beats or trades blows with it on everything except some DX11 titles. This is also without using raytracing benchmarks. The prices are very close now too since the Super is $1,000 MSRP.
It leaves a hole where the 4080 used to be when you pool the cache with an AMD CPU.
>7800x3d
>7900xtx
>64gb DDR5 5600
>Play old school Runescape
Unironically this.
Busting this since last week:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qZh3GP
And so far, I've been playing games as old as 10-5y.
actually you could have like a million multiboxing bots at the same time right????????
delided and overclocked 5.9Ghz
>8000Mhz tuned RAM
>RTX 4090
>1440p OLED
>play Counter-Strike: Source
Like a thousand dollars for a GPU that won't even last 5 years. And will set your house on fire.
No physical games plus I hate Windows.
>Why haven't you moved to PC yet?
because i'm saving my money to move to bangladesh
Come home console man
bump
>7800XT
>5950X
That’s all you’ll need for a very very long time
13700K or 7800x3D if I do some android programming (its a huge project) aside from gaming? I heard that AMD is worse at compiling code or some shits but is it really that noticeable and hows the power draw and shits ? thanks
The difference in performance isn't going to matter to 99.9% of people
Meanwhile the 7800X3D will be appreciably better with games, take much less power and generate much less heat, while costing less, to me it's an easy choice.
>Falling for the 7800x3d meme
It would be funny if not for morons who think this is real.
Dont play at 1080p then homosexual?
I have a 7800X3D and 4090
I play on my 1440p 360hz Asus monitor, non-OLED of course because I'm not a burned in homosexual
I'm set until the late 20s, I'll probably on AM7 or Intel 20700k or something
you're prob set to the late 30s to not going to lie.
Graphics nowadays are slowing down.
Nah graphics are stagnant but the hardware creep keeps increasing because of incompetent devs
A 4090 w an i9 13900k you get like 70fps at 1440p on "no rest for the wicked" an isometric game lol
I probably have to upgrade from a 3060ti to a 7900gre because the former just isn't good enough for 1440p modern gaming
i'd do anything to ban this guy's face off my youtube feeds
You should focus more on getting the crusty cum off your face, been building up there for years.
Pentium II 233mhz / don't know it was a laptop
Celeron 1.8 ghz / GeForce 4 MX 440
Pentium D / Radeon x700
Pentium D / Radeon 1950XTX pro
i7-3770 / GTX 660
i7-3770 / GTX 1050ti
Current PC:
Ryzen 5 7500f(this CPU isn't that bad) / RTX 4080 super
Gonna upgrade to 9800X3d
Miss me with that shit
>long hair
>big huge breasts
Is he a stealth troon?
>stealth
Half Life 3, a new Duke Nukem game or maybe Elder Scrolls 6 are the only things that would make me consider upgrading.
Because my 6900XT and 5900X are still working fine. I'll probably upgrade when the next gen of CPUs and GPUs come out.
>Jump from 7700k into 14900k today
>Loose all intrest into games
Not like this, i wanna play on shitty hardware!
Way ahead of you, OP.
I barely play anything these days though.
Same specs as you except ram.
Why 64gb ram?
Same I only played old games lately
>Why 64gb ram?
Mostly just buying for maximum future proof, but I kinda am interested in video rendering, so it might come in handy if I do decide to dabble in that.
Is that RAM 2x32 or 4x16?
2x32 https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Corsair-VENGEANCE-6000MHz-Compatible-Computer/dp/B0BLYL79TT
And I disabled the RGB lights.
Yeah, makes sense. I have 2x16 now but I kinda want more. I was hoping to buy another 32GB kit but I hear the 7800X3D doesn't work well with four sticks.
Well, think well whether or not the ram upgrade is really needed for you, but if it is and the CPU issue with 4 ram sticks is real, then I'd suggest investing into 2x32GB and afterwards just selling your 2x16 to make some money back.
waiting to see what 8800X is like compared to 7800X3D.
either way im upgrading this year
I rather get a 5600 or a 5800x3d if i am feeling cheeky
Why would I spend that much to play upscaled AAA games that don't run well as the developers are a bunch of diversity hires with no technical skills and no one buys anymore?
All other games run fine on modest hardware
I'll upgrade if I can't run the next Monster Hunter game smoothly
Even though it looks exactly like World
>deciding what CPU want to get
>easy
>deciding what motherboard to get because alot of them are shit
>b650,b650E,x670,x670E
Dunnow, maybe don't have $2000-$3000 to waste on a new PC to play some slopaaagames.
But you'll spend 500 on a console, +120 on controllers and 1k on games over the course of 10 years?
>want new CPU
>oh yea need new MOBO
>oh yea need new RAM
>last time I had to do this it was zen 1
>doesnt seem that long ago
>2017
>need some more storage desperately and see a good nvme ssd sale
>mobo doesn't support nvme
>it can't be that old! I use a 8700k! The king of gaming cpus!
>realize the 14 series is out now and the 8700k is 6 generations old
>now I have to buy a new cpu, mobo, ram, and storage
I don't want to do it
>motherboards still use intel shit ethernet
>4090
>7800X3D
>1440p upscaled resolution
>30fps
Muttster race bros we gaming.
>using DLSS Quality at 4k when Performance is recommended at 4k
>using RT, ever
I really seriously hope you guys don't watch Alex videos
>playing at 1080p render res
>turning RT off
>on a $5000 setup
Praise tech Jesus
>getting 100 FPS
>turn up settings
>110 FPS
what the actual frick
usually when your system is running games that well, there's a hard cpu or gpu bottleneck. And sometimes turning setting up can actually pull stress off the bottleneck and onto the other part and make your fps go up. It's rare and weird, but happens
>game's running uncapped with vsync on a 120hz monitor, real FPS 150+
>70 degrees on the GPU
>cap FPS at 120
>80 degrees, fans get louder
Why is it harder to run at the capped rate?
My 1070 still werks
>1070 dies just a week or two before covid starts
>frustrated because I didn't want to upgrade until 30xx series
>buy a 2070 super for $400
>a few weeks later the same card is selling for $800 and people are paying thousands for the new 30xx cards
>this goes on for 2 years
dodged the bullet of a lifetime
Not even normies care about new games.
no they don't assmongoloid shill. people don't play 16 or 32 bit games or even things from the PS2 generation. when normalgays say they play old games they mean fortnite, Minecraft and GTA5. still cod and fifa sell well every single year
Thank god pozzassmongoild told me what to think!
dude there's like nothing to play. if you keep up with major releases and play like 2-3 games a month, you still would have burned through every decent game from 2023 with plenty of time to spare.
also, many new games are outright trash and if you're jaded enough some of the "decent" ones aren't worth playing either
Not buyin anything with Pluton.
I thought about upgrading from my 6700k and gtx1080 but then I realized they still play basically everything just fine at 1080p. Maybe I'll grab whatever the 2025 CPU is so I can emulate better since that seems to be a weak spot for me but I'm not really in a rush.
Otherwise I don't really see much of a reason to upgrade until I buy a better display.
I'm still on a 12700k. Can't be assed to open my PC up to upgrade. Maybe once the 5090 comes out I'll grab the 8800x3d.
12700k is still really good, the newer intel cpus don't really offer anything
Even a 10700k is still more than adequate.
intel 12th, 13th, and 14th gen are pretty much the same, they just increased the power draw.
>16-core 13700k
>in reality 8 performance cores and 8 ~~*efficiency*~~ cores
>Still pulls 250W from the wall
>14nm++++++++++++
Don't act like Intel doesn't pull scumbag marketing moves either.
why buy a GPU that's 3x the price of a fricking console? it's like you people have no idea you're being fleeced
this. No reason to spend 3x the current console on a gpu when the gpus the same price as consoles are getting 2x the framerates unless you have to have 144+fps in every single game on the market
pcgays are genuinely one of most moronic consumer circles, especially when the endgame is to play video games.
Yes. Imagine spending $400-500 on a console and then $70 per game when you can just get a pen and some paper and play OXO all day?
People are just moronic. How dare they spend money on things.
it never used to be this way, PC gaming went to shit when the PC elitism meme went mainstream, and manufacturers realized they could milk the trend. now expensive computers are just overpriced decorations for hauty loners with nothing better to spend their money on.
Yeah remember when titan graphics card was a $1000 and was considered outrageously expensive? Those were the times.
Yes. Once you've bought everything you need in life you end up with surplus to spend on the things you enjoy.
People enjoy gaming, if they get more enjoyment from gaming on a 4k PC than a 2k PC then who is anybody to question it?
>you're getting fleeced
They're the ones who are happy and you're not.
you're supposed to invest your surplus into appreciating assets that your children can inherit. spending all your money is boomer behavior.
>You should save your money so you can buy the things you want
>No. You shouldn't buy that.
lol shut up moron
you can get a laptop well under 1 grand and play anything cross platform anyway
the CPU is the bottleneck. Big Multiplayer games need CPU clockspeed. People who spend $500 on GPU usually don't upgrade for like 5-10 years sometimes. I think you're at a sweet spot that hardware is a better deal cause you can spend a couple hundred more than a console on the entire system and get access to way more free content off the bat. Console is locked down and has access to older games and a handful of recent titles an adult would play. If anything if yiunalready had games for the past gen then it's make most sense to get the new system if only to play them again.
You can get a 7900xtx for pretty cheap right now at ~800 on Newegg
My GPU died and I don't want to spend 600 dollars on a new one to play map painters and 10 year old games, what's my best option?
Your CPU's integrated graphics.
6700xt is the budget king these days, and is relatively cheap by modern standards.
I'm planning to get the 7800X3D but I have no idea what motherboard to get, especially since the latest wave of 650s is dogshit.
modern top-of-the-line parts are primarily for idiots who want the best despite never actually using more than like 30-40% of the specs, and mostly just use their rig as an ostentatious display piece.
people who actually play fricking video games are mostly on 30-series and AMD 6000-series cards that have double the $ per frame value.
Why is it always clueless poorgays who draw the lines of what people should and shouldn't buy with their own money?
>you don't use it
>it's wasted
>they're not even improved
How the frick do you know, you've never even seen a modern high end PC outside of youtube videos.
>muh poorgays
that's something a wannabe richgay says, to justify bad spending habits. I actually have legitimately wealthy family members, the type where buying a $3000 rig would be like buying lunch at mcdonalds, and they b***h about price increases just as much as everybody else. top tier rigs are objectively a terrible value, you don't have to be poor to see that. the prices are jacked up to shit.
>b-but they're the best
at like 4x the cost of a top rig 6 years ago. frankly I don't fault nvidia for fleecing people, it's an easy way to make a lot of money.
no you don't lol
keep coping Black person, bet you barely make above $100k/year and think you're anything but middle class.
I don't make anything a year. I don't have to work.
either a trust fund baby or a basement tendie, in either case you have zero concept of the value of money and are in literally in no position to have opinions.
I retired early. Thanks though.
bitcoin?
Actually kinda true, I got work and shit so I barely play any games but when I do I play them in 4K on my oled tv. My rig is ugly as shit though, not a display piece at all.
Unfortunately, I brought my 3060 ti to 1440p and I cannot go back. It's fine for right now, but I don't play anything too new so I have no idea how the latest slop would make it sweat. 5090 might be the replacement.
90-series cards are complete overkill, the only thing they've ever been good for is benchmarks and aging horribly.
Yeah, probably wouldn't even be able to find one for a while at MSRP so the 80 series would probably be my best bet. Then park at 1440p until I die.
PC gaming is too expensive.
Console gaming is too expensive too.
someone ought to tell this perma neckbeard to shave his hair, Black person looks like he came straight out of hatred except overweight.
Fricking moronic haircut.
also buy an ad
What is the closest thing to a Mac Mini but for Windows that isn't ugly as frick? I guess SFF PC would be the correct term for what I'm looking for. Too many chink SFF PCs look horrid and tryhard.
Fractal Design Terra
Thank you, that looks a thousand times better than the shit I was looking at.
Is micro-ATX a meme?
Like fricking 90% of mobos and cases at prices I would pay are micro ATX
I literally just want to play Tekken 8 and Granblue Fantasy Relink at 1080p comfortably
mATX is the budget king. You pay ITX tax if you want small form factor, and ATX boards are usually stuffed with features and ports that you pay for but will probably never use. mATX cases are usually cheaper since they use less material but don't require advanced engineering like ITX cases. It's the way to go if you just want a budget gaming rig.
Cool, thanks.
My main concerns are durability (of the mobos) and cooling efficiency (of the cases)
Is that an issue? Are there any compromises with either thing?
>durability (of the mobos)
Not a problem at all.
>cooling efficiency (of the cases)
A huge problem.
>Are there any compromises with either thing?
ITX components cost more across the board and you will get worse thermals compared to a properly sized case, you can't cheat physics the case is smaller everything is pressed tightly and to get comparable results to M/ATX you will have to run fans way louder.
Ask yourself, why do you need your PC to be so small anyway? Are you carrying it around everywhere everyday? Do you visit lan parties every week? No? Then get M/ATX, ITX cases are dumb and come with a huge pain in the ass factor when building or when you have to readjust anything, not to say any change or upgrade usually means taking apart the entire thing. I speak from experience, I had one of these stupid SFF PCs and the only good thing they're for is gaining internet points for fancy photos and not much else.
Oh... I was talking about micro ATX actually, not mini itx , sorry if that wasn't clear enough.
No, I don't need my PC to be super tiny, just smaller than what I currently have
>just smaller than what I currently have
the point stands, why?
Because my current case takes a sizeable portion of my desk and is a pain in the balls when I have to move it, which is rare but still annoying enough.
Also like I said, the main reason I am asking this is because the absolute majority of mobos and cases I can find online are now micro atx, especially since I want to avoid the tempered glass meme.
Matx is fine, most people do not need atx nor its comical size
Smaller boards can sometimes be annoying to work with if you upgrade a lot
I don't.
I've been literally using essentially the same setup for 10 years, I've only changed my HDD for 2 SSDs
>plays actual games on my Nintendo switch, ignoring your pathetic virgin community
I'm going to Justwait(tm) until next year for Zen5/RDNA4/Blackwell/15th gen before upgrading.
t. Ryzen 3600/RTX 3060
>1070 has started freaking out on me so head to pc part picker
>4070
>i7-12700K
>Double the RAM and storage space
DOOM is about look so fricking good
I was going to upgrade to a 7800 XT from an ancient GPU but then realized that there's nothing new worth playing.
14900k is faster
Its literally not tho
And it burns 250w extra for the privilege
250W in gaming? Okay fanboy.
But I already have a 12400f and a 3080 12gb
I practically don't need to upgrade ever
I got my new rig a couple of days ago. Spent the price of a PS5 on a couple of new monitors too
My laptop was starting to get old
I dont have 4k to drop on a new system. My 2060 still works ok
Because I can't justify $5,000 AUD for a gaming PC, especially when gaming is at an all time low and the newest game I am playing is from 2014.
I will stick with my 10850k + 1080ti.
I saw that my 10700kf was selling for the exact same price as a 10850k on eBay, so I sold it and grabbed the i9 to see if 4 extra threads would make a difference, and it shockingly did somehow
If there isn't some non-morono expensive 16GB option without a neutered bus that also has a normal power connector, it's destined to become yet another RTX release where the cards you want (i.e. is a genuine upgrade from the Titan XP or 1080 ti you grabbed for ~$250 on eBay) retail morono expensively, everything in the 5070 and/or ti/Super lineup isn't an upgrade at all from the previous 4070 and/or ti/super lineup (assuming it isn't a rebrand), and the high-end cards rot in the same warehouses that the high-end 3000's and 4000's are chilling in
Considering that games aren't getting any more optimized, and the average resolution isn't getting any smaller, I present the hot take that Nvidia needs to kill the x060 series like they did the x050's in the desktop space, it serves zero purpose other than siphoning RAM resources away from cards that don't need DLSS to compensate for weak performance at native resolutions
>using a 4090 for gaming
I was gonna upgrade my rig and get a 7800x3d, but should I wait on the 8000 series instead? Is the pricing likely to be similar?
It is always better to wait.
Currently stuck using AM4 til I feel like replacing everything. Anyone here who may have owned one: is it worth getting a R7 5800x 3d if I currently use a 3800x? I feel like my CPU is holding me back with a lot of these newer games. I only have a 2080ti but I can't imagine it's my card after seeing my benchmark results. I'm not trying to play max settings either i just want decent frames in 1440p. If it's not worth it, I'll just redo everything and swap to intel.
Modern games are trash. No need to upgrade.
what do you guys think about the coming rtx 5000 series?
do you think they'll purpose gimp the hardware like they did with the 4000 series?
my 1070ti is still going strong. if the 5070 has decent specs i might buy one and sit on it until my old one dies
>4090
Any word on if the 4080 supers have the same issue? Or do they simply not draw enough power to do it too?
Wonder if they'll try to keep forcing the connector with the 50 series.
Anything with that connector runs the risk. Rumor is that Nvidia considers the 12VHP the "new standard" and will be slapping it on all cards starting with 5000 series.
Wow it looks like they really want me to consider an AMD gpu for my next build.
What a bunch of asshats.
Rumour is 16 pin connectors will replace that 12 pin fire hazard.
>4080 supers
Mine has been fine so far.
What AM5 motherboard should I get? Seems like they all have problems in some way or another.
I have a 5800X3D and 3090. When should I upgrade? Seems a waste to get the 7800X3D and 4090 right now.
For gaming? 3090 has 24GB of vram so you're good for a long time. Gaming tech is hitting a ceiling so you're probably fine until 2030.
3090 has 600W transient spikes, runs hot & loud as shit. I would upgrade next gen just so you get same if not better perf at half the power draw and zero coil/fan whine.
>AMD
I'm still waiting for the cucked edition of the 3080 to go below $300 USED
I just bought a 7800x3d I'll be installing tomorrow, but I am waiting to upgrade my GPU
>I just bought a 7800x3d I'll be installing tomorrow, but I am waiting to upgrade my GPU
Same, the computer i've been using was from 2012 so I just spent like $800 on a full rig with 7800x3d, DDR5, SSD, etc. minus the GPU.
I don't want to spend more that $1000 on the GPU so i'm debating on the 7900 XTX or an older Nvidia card.
I have a GTX 970 now so I'll probably just try using that for the short term to see how everything else runs. I'm not a framerate snob and don't care about 4k but I do some AI shit so don't want to get cucked there.
I have always been PC.
>Beta testing the 4 series when the 5 series will just be the same advancements without any of the bullshit
Lol shiggidy diggity
the writing was on the wall when the 2000 series came out. graphics have not meaningfully advanced past the need for a 1080ti. vram is the only thing you'd need more of and nvidia knows it so they got real stingy with it.
adding more polygons is a fricking joke. raytracing and 4k won't be widely adopted for at least another decade.
it's never been a better time to be a waitgay
>7800X3D
>RTX 4090
>1440p 360hz OLED
I waited until the PS5 released and bought a computer that mogged it and I'll probably just wait to do the same thing again with whatever garbage Sony comes out with next
>Why haven't you moved to PC yet?
because the best games ever made are 20 years old
I know conventional wisdom says most of the budget to the GPU and scrape by with whatever you can elsewhere, but 7800X3D price/performance is just too good to pass up on for fresh builds right?
Even if you're going mid-range like 4070/7900 GRE?
7600x should be twice as cheap, more than good enough for modern vidya, most games won't gain a whole lot with extra cores of 7800x3d anyway. The only issue is that 3d cache thingy brings some proper, proper performance benefits in some very specific games, so that would be missed. If i'd be in a position where I have fixed budget that I cannot modify for some dumb reasons, and then I'd really really really need this 200eur somewhere else, I'd go for 7600x, but otherwise there's not much point in trying to save up on that when 7800x3d is so nice.
I dunno anons. The more games are GPU bound and the higher the resolution, the less it really matters. I doubt anyone could say they can tell the difference between 350 FPS and 330 FPS.
Because unfortunately you actually need money to keep yourself afloat in the current economy.
Most people are poor.
>calls others poor
>has a poorgay setup himself
lol
lmao even
Best gaming AMD CPU and GPU on the market, nice try brownoid.
>AMD CPU
>AMD GPU
Hit or miss depending on the game. A poorgay wouldn't have just one system.
>32GB RAM at 4800Mhz, CL40
Lol
Lmao even
>HDD's
Poorgay
which is more sad cargays or pcgays flexing their stuff online? my friend group all have their high end gear and never once have i seen them flex or even talk about it
Pcgays by a mile. Flexing about buying adult legos that they found after sorting by price on pcpartpicker.
I've owned a manlet 7900 for three months now
where's the driver instability and constant crashes at? have nvdiots been lying to me all this time?
9800X3D when? I want to upgrade from 3600