After a week of owning pic related as my first VR headset i am now 100% sure that whoever says that he prefers playing first person games on a flat screen is a fricking moron.
This right here is the fricking future shame the battery is so fricking trash
how long does it last when playing standalone? and how do the upgraded games look, is it any close to pcvr?
get a powerbank
Like an hour and a half. The problem is most banks will drain significantly faster than it can charge the headset. Think you need one that is 18watts output
Lol my power bank can push 100w
I hope you keep a fire extinguiser close to that thing
Doesn't even get hot .
Seriously I've ran a laptop on it still barely anything
No 18 watts. Needs 25 watts to play and charge the battery. 30 watts I saw a dude test and it was charging the headset and the external battery, slowly.
Standalone is around 2 hours, tried it with standalone games and PCVR wireless and it also was 2hr. I know you can buy straps that have batteries in them but still would like it to better normally. Except for that this device is fricking perfect i am streaming PC games at like dogshit bitrates like 180mb and its still crystar clear
>I know you can buy straps that have batteries
Imo you have to buy one of them because the basic straps are fricking garbage especially if you want to play longer than 2 hours.
>how do the upgraded games look, is it any close to pcvr?
see for yourself
pcvr wireless should last a lot longer since the headset isn't doing much computation, just video decoding which is hardware accelerated and doesn't use much power
there's newer firmware coming out with performance profiles to make the battery last longer, for pcvr, it should easily run 2-3x as long
>This right here is the fricking future
jej
lel
kek
and lol
more like the future of being left in a box in the closet
Is the Quest 3 worth buying? Or should I just get a quest 2? I’m willing to spend extra if it’s worth it
Yes for the lenses alone.
It's worth it. It's still relatively cheap to get into VR and if you don't like the medium you can resell it.
How is your budget? Pico is releasing a new interation in a couple of months and the best model has a stupid high resolution. No idea about the price though
With Pico laying people off id be hesitant as a non euro buying a pico
I got and sold a pico and the softwate support was shit, idk about the meta. Anyway the tech is not there yet for me, ill wait some years for my next headset
>the softwate support was shit, idk about the meta
depends what you mean by "software support"
The OS? The tracking software? The games?
No, it's mediocre for it's price
You need to better define "worth it".
The novelty factor lasted way longer for me than most and even I kinda dropped it after 1 year and something. I have Rift S and Quest 2. If I ever pick it up I only play Thrill of the Fight as cardio.
There just isnt enough games and worse yet most of them are still AAA slop but with hand controls. Once you go through some of the "experiences" and finish most good games like Compound or Until You Fall all you're left with are cardio games and pavlov.
I could afford both easily, but theres still a bit of buyers remorse because gamedevs never really invested into it.
The lenses are so much better than the Quest 2 that I would never go back.
If you really have money problems you could get a quest 2 and save money but if you can at all afford it I'd get a quest 3.
If you're gonna play standalone, get Quest 3.
You don't need to buy it right now though, the promotion for a free copy of Asgard's Wrath 2 will continue until the end of January.
I agree, there's no going back
can't wait for good VR immersive sim
I dont understand Steam VR with Oculus Link, so i open up the oculus link app, i select monitor 1, i have my screen on, i click a game in the Steam UI, then when i exit the game i am magically fricking teleported into a Steam VR Hub i think? That has my games in it? How can i access the Hub instantly?
get oculus tray tool and install steamvr into the library
Frick off zucc im not buying your spyware
You must have shit eyes, because the pixels are still fricking huge.
I'll keep playing on my 4k monitor, thanks
>> he cares about graphics more than gameplay
Thats what OP said, you have to be moronic to prefer flatscreen, and you clearly are.
Can it charge trough USB C fast enough so I can stream non stop from my PC?
i think it depletes very slowly at best
>whoever says that he prefers playing first person games on a flat screen is a fricking moron
It depends on the game. Anything fast paced or precise I would never want to play in VR. The numbers of games that are both good AND built around VR from the ground up is pretty small. After HL:A and Boneworks you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
However VR porn completely and utterly mogs anything on a flat screen. My biggest hope for the future of VR is that we get AI tech for converting 2D videos into VR.
Maybe the Quest 3 is different, but I have a Quest 2 and it can either charge or receive video signal, not both simultaneously. Not that it matters, since it gets 3 hours on a full charge and I can only play in 45 minute sessions before I get a headache.
However VR porn completely and utterly mogs anything on a flat screen
This is a meme, right?
Yes, he's delusional.
No, is it very good
any specific movies you would recommend?
If you already have sex just try stuff your gf is not into: anal, trios, kinky stuff
It kinda does, the girl in VR has a sort of presence that just isn't there in 2D. The only issue is that most of the content on free sites like e-porner is fairly vanilla. Stepbro I'm stuck, milfs, threesomes with blondes, etc.
You're not gonna get your specific fetish in VR without paying for it I presume. Tons of free VR JAVs though.
1440p is fine on my Reverb G2, but I always go 2160p if I like a certain video.
>You're not gonna get your specific fetish in VR without paying for it I presume.
EMP has it all, for free
Name 10 worthwhile games besides beatsaber and super hot and I’ll buy one of these right now. I want one, but can’t justify buying for 2 games alone.
Porn
How's the resolution? Is it blurry or actually good?
Anything will do, tbh, but if you want a good experience you need really good resolution videos, and I mean it, think of 8k.
Streaming sites only catter to the lowest common denominator, so the feeds are simply split screen, which messes with your eyes a little because of the different ipd, shit resolution and in many cases not even support for hand controlers
Compound
Assasins Creed Nexus VR
Walkabout Mini Golf
Synth Riders
Thrill of the Fight
Walking Dead Saint and Sinners
The 7th guest
Vertigo 1 + 2
Pavlov Shack
Into the Radius
Resident Evil
Red Matter
This is a problem that will never be fixed. Sure some few hardcore players can force their brains to get used to the motion dizziness, but 90% of the people will never be used to moving in the game and not irl.
Only solution I can think of is AR (or VR constantly adapting to the enviroment) with and AI managing the game in real time. Think of the pokemon go craze but with kids going pew pew on the street
There is a guy releasing a native VR mod for Unreal Engine in a couple of months, this shit will enable native VR for hundreds of games. I think the
>no games
argument can go away then
As solid as the RE mods are, I think they aren't nearly as good as official versions in RE8 and RE4 Quest 2. Maybe the RE4 Remake VR mode won't be exclusive to PSVR. but we all know it will.
I just don't want guns glued to my hands.
>I just don't want guns glued to my hands.
The UE vr mod i posted will detach head and arms so its basically native at that point
If they are not made with VR and vr controlers in mind is like polishing a turd
Couldn't devs just do an Outer Wilds situation where the environment moves around you and just stick a smalll static floor under your character so your brain understands that? Or is that not enough?
Moving through the world and the world moving around you will end up just looking the same, so gimmicky things like this aren't going to make match of a difference. In fact, I don't even know what you are talking about with Outer Wilds, so it clearly wasn't apparent there playing regular or with the VR mod. The final solution is to just tell your brain that you are playing a video game, so what you see and expect to feel will start to match up. Someone earlier mentioned only 3-5% of people actually have long term problems with adjusting. With a number that low and then kids that are more adaptable growing up with the technology, it is really just not as big of an issue as people originally made it out to be. If you did need training wheels, blocking out peripheral vision is the proven method.
While on the topic, Outer Wilds with the VR mod is the best VR game. It wasn't intentional, but it was really made in a way that makes the most of the visual aspects of VR.
https://www.uploadvr.com/best-oculus-quest-games/
robo recall
Shame they never went back and updated that Quest version, it looks pretty rough now being limited to Q1 specs.
you kinda get used to it. I've played the quest version more just cause its wireless, and i have a backyard
I only have the PS4 headset but to be completely honest the only games that felt truly enhanced by the tech were Superhot (which they cucked with an update removing some of the coolest moments), Resident Evil 7, and Wipeout. Wipeout actually has me convinced that the best thing to do with VR is rerelease classic games instead of trying to come up with new experiences that just feel kind of awkward. Can't comment fairly on Walking Dead because every time I go to play it I end up dicking around flicking lit cigarettes at zombies until they kill me.
>beatsaber and super hot
those suck ass
a shitty memorize waggle and a 60 minute tech demo
only waggle game worth any time is pistol whip, and even it lacks content
single player, hl Alyx, Lone Echo, Red Matter 2, RE4VR and 7th guest and Vertigo 2 if you are fine with more amateur projects
and ...
thats it, rest is shit
all theose bonelab, h3vr, Blade and sorcery "make your own fun" tech demos can go frickthemselves, literally garry mod tier crap for 12 year old kids, bonelab players on average have to be 10 year old
Skyrim, no mans sky and other VR ports are fricking shit, lazy, broken buggy crap
Generally there is nothing good to play in VR outside of the big tittles from 2020 and 2017, you can try Asgrad Wrath and other AA productions from that time, at lest they still tried back then
skyrimvr isn't broken, it's just skyrim itself that's broken. Throw the same patches on that you would for literally any other bethesda game and it runs fine. It has like 75% crossover compatibility with any old ass SE mod you throw at it, and the few VR specific mods add fantastic shit like gesture casting, over the shoulder backpack like ItR and more.
bro, i tried, i downloaded like 10 mods, worked great, then i downloaded something that broke my graphics and made game run like shit, i tried to fix it, game stopped rendering 2 images, i had one and no depth, and at some point i got so tired or starting it up i never played it again
i just remembered why i hate bethesda games, they are borderline unusable without mods that add fundamental functionality like proper inventory, dialogue options or big fixes
>Skyrim, no mans sky and other VR ports are fricking shit, lazy, broken buggy crap
work perfectly here. May you just need a good PC?
Waifu Sex Simulator, CM3D2, Koikatsu, Wildlife, Insult Order : wienery Catgirls' Pleasure, Corruption is on the Menu
For more 3dpd look there is Virt-a-Mate and Honey Select
You can also get tasteful 3d JAV videos online.
Resist though, November doesn't end for another 2 weeks.
Almost forgot Operation Lovecraft: Fallen Doll (just pirate it and the old one without aliens).
There are also 2 Gal Gun VR games if you don't want porn but gameplay.
I bought mine for VR Chat alone so I could mess with people as Peter Griffin.
I barely play VR Chat now, but use it EXCLUSIVELY for watching youtube videos while laying in bed before going to sleep and I would say it is absolutely worth it for THAT alone.
Look, the tech COULD be much better than flat screen gaming but is it currently better right now? The lack of both indie and high-profile VR games are a testament to it.
VR might be the future, but it sure as hell isn't superior in the present.
>but is it currently better right now?
I'm not OP and I still only have a Vive. Yes, it has been better for years now. The better feeling of moving around through a full size world plus enhanced controls are well worth the tradeoff in resolution even for my older headset. Older games that have VR support modded in are instantly improved. Playing games without VR support always feel disappointing when if they are good games since I know they could have been even better.
It's to the point where I wish every first person or remotely immersive game came with built in VR support or was made for VR instead.
I had played amid evil for a couple hours and dropped it yet the VR version sucked me in and I beat it a couple days after that released, that's the kind of thing VR does for games.
It's hard to relay to you well but VR basically makes a game feel 2-3 points better out of ten than it really is, if Alyx released as a pancake game no one would even have heard of it.
Eventually, it will be. But it needs to be A LOT smaller before that can happen. Give it a decade and for it to look like a pair of glasses.
Half Life 2 and EP1 and 2 are 1$
Grab them if you don't have them already and play the VR mods.
Most people will never get used to the motion sickness
Two people I introduced to VR (already avid gamers) had absolutely 0 issues with it. Hell even my boomer parents could play Walkabout Minigolf without feeling nauseous for an hour each.
>Most people will never get used to the motion sickness
I dont understand people having it, literally turn your body and head the same way you are turning your analog stick, when the character jumps you jump, when he crouches you crouch, thats it, no motion sickness
Your vestibular system must be shit
The problem is that your brain thinks it is moving but your body does not.
Some people also can get motion sickness from reading a book while in a car. Which is kinda the opposite. Your body feels the movement of the car but your brain doesn't "see" it.
I couldn't stomach locomotion in any game with my old Rift, now I got chinaman Pico4 and the problem disappeared
just because you are a weak b***h doesn't mean that everyone around you is a weak b***h. Higher resolutions and framerates also seem to help with this issue
Copium. VR will never be a thing, people will jump directly to AR.
>Anything fast paced or precise I would never want to play in VR.
You should try Quake 3 VR, it works surprisingly well.
It's already a thing though, you should give it a try
>It's already a thing though
pass-trough is shit. I mean real AR glasses, like the waveguide ones presented recently
You misunderstood me, moron, I was talking about VR, dumbfrick
>pass-trough is shit
I was texting with people on my phone while having a Quest 3 on my head yesterday in the evening so only room lights on, shit was impressive
who cares about AR, bergface
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Lmaoing at your bulky vomit-inducing piece of shit
I refuse to buy anything worth less than their crossfire max.
realistically, how many years until all the features of a Quest 3 (except for the battery of course) fit in a pair of glasses an cost less than a $1000? 10 years?
They are working already with xreal, so I expect them to release these as soon as next year. Idk how the soft is for these things and I bet they want to focus on the mobile phone market, but simple PCVR should be a thing from day one.
They also claim the glass is very cheap to produce (30$ per glass) so the whole thing could be very well under 1000$ soon enough.
Without 3D Depth and hand motion tracking it will shit
Who says is not possible? The only thing this tech does is removing the need for a frickon of components and the cameras needed for pass-trough
There is a reason Quest is "bulky" while those AR glasses arent.
most of it is battery anyways, is it impossible to have a 3d effect with transparent lenses?
Glass+screen+battery
3d effect comes from the use of different images in both eyes, so ofc it works
>people will jump directly to AR.
VR games will be playable with AR glasses in dimmed mode
Uh wrong. You just fragile
Wrong. You get used to it really quickly.
t. someone with car motion sickness
I never had a problem with it same with my nephew.
it's a racial thing
Explain
play this and you will be cured of motion sickness/fear of heights
or you won't and you'll eat shit onto your floor.
but if you play this it desensitizes you pretty quick IMO.
I played it my 3rd or 4th hour of VR and it was intense. took me a week or so before I could come back to it and figure it out.
best VR swooce-ing I've tried so far
>Most people will never get used to the motion sickness
Here's a trick people don't tell you about VR, It's fricking exhausting so long time users end up playing while sitting in a chair. Motion sickness is greatly reduced if you're sitting.
>It's fricking exhausting so long time users end up playing while sitting in a chair
Maybe if you are a fat fricking frick maybe
No, just a normal person that works for a living. People weren't meant to stand on the spot not doing anything.
anons i want a VR headset to use with valve controllers. wired PCVR of course. is it possible?
I heard the index headset is pretty obsolete
Should I get a Quest 2 for RE4VR?
If RE4 is one of your favorite games - definitely. Although it might be a better idea to get a Quest 3 at this point.
>future
>headsets are not selling and game developers ignore VR support
copium
>headsets are not selling
*headsets not called Quest are not selling
Even then Quest has pretty bad retention rates
Didn't Q2 beat Xbox in sales last year?
I use cardboard to watch vr jav and I approve this thread
That isn't actual VR at all, I almost think people classifying 3dof devices as VR has done more harm than good at this point since it gives people a bad first impression of what VR is.
Alien Isolation is a great example of how good VR is. Without VR? Very good game sure but nothing groundbreaking, with VR? Can make you fricking sweat and your legs feel like spaghetti. Absolutely insane experience
I just beat IEYTD1 2 and 3 recently and they were more fun than regular games
will using it with a powerbank at all times preserve the battery life? sorry if it's a dumb question
like will it damage the battery you mean?
cycling the battery too much will make it last even shorter
>no cameras
>shit tracking
>2 hours battery life
Returned it after a week of use. Maybe in another generation or two.
>no cameras
It has a bunch of cameras
>shit tracking
The tracking's as good as you're gonna get from inside-out unless you shill out $300 for the Touch Pro controllers.
Most people get motion sickness from VR, it's never gonna be future.
Even the porn isn't that good because it's blurry and feels like your head is on the guys chest or some shit.
>muh motion sickness
lol, lmao even
There's a reason Valve have given up VR. Even with all the hand-holding Alyx did, it made too many people sick.
You can plug your ears all you want, but you can't ignore facts.
>There's a reason Valve have given up VR
Haven't they been working on their own standalone headset using a separate processing unit or was that just all rumor.
Weird, i dont get any motion sickness, am i special?
>There's a reason Valve have given up VR
they just released steamvr 2.0, now they are waiting til the VGA to unveil the deckard headset + HL3
>hl3
>vr
you delusional bro
they worked on 2 vr titles, some fantasy and alyx 2, but no way they making multiple projects at once so as always they prototyped it and saw what works best
there is 0 indication hl3 entered production again
also no way new headset is releasing soon, last time they gave an update they didnt decide on a design yet and were still testing wired, wireless, self tracking and base stations
they were working on 3 vr games
they turned one into artifact
they had a L4D3 vr prototype years ago, but the source 2 engine was missing a bunch of features, so it was put on hold
>also no way new headset is releasing soon
wrong
https://www.roadtovr.com/valve-standalone-vr-steam-update-deckard/
https://www.roadtovr.com/valve-working-on-vr-steam-deckard-oled/
psssssssssssst
PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST
Read your own links tard, sephiroth was the 6nm apu. Deckard is the OLED.
it must be true. The guy who was 100% wrong about the deckard says so.
lol
it's dover
>wrong
>unoficial data mining
kek
tell me how that worked for l4d3 and hl3?
those leaks mean shit all, valve always prototypes shit, when they released index tech demos they incoluded previews of how much shit they tasted before setting on a design
untill a headset hits production or at lest gets announced it may be years before we see anything, quest 3 design leaks happened like 2 years ago, and we had to wait a shitton time for it to hit shelves
>Trusting the utter moron that is Bradly when he's gotten numerous things wrong
moron.
Never been motion sick from anything in my life I couldn't play Alyx for more than about 45min at a time without feeling sick, and the sick feeling lasts for hours once you get it.
The game was great but I dread replaying it.
>I've never played VR but trust me bro
I have a Quest 2 and I finished HL:Alyx despite it making me sick.
>Noooooo I have a Quest2!!
>I played a a a Alyx and b b b BeatSaber!!
every Black person who has never owned a VR headset says the exact same thing, EVERY FRICKING TIME.
get more creative or get lost.
alyx is the only game VR has, the frick you expect people to say?
let me guess, the only game you ever played in your childhood is Pokemon.
>bought a nintendo
>played mario and zelda
I too remember falling for VR back in 2016. VR hasn't changed since 2016 (Visuals got better, that's it). There is still only 2 games of note (Beat Sabre and Alyx).
Fact is, nobody wants to sit there with stupid goggles on, and far too many people feel sick from VR for it to catch up.
>There is still only 2 games of note (Beat Sabre and Alyx).
Spice up your bait next time
There is literally nothing else worth playing.
Boneworks blows Alyx out of the water
Boneworks is a prime example of why VR will never ever be mainstream.
Not getting motion sickness is a genetic defect.
>8 posts
pls
https://www.insidescience.org/news/cybersickness-why-people-experience-motion-sickness-during-virtual-reality
>the incidence of motion sickness after only 15 minutes is anywhere from 40 to 70 percent
>For some applications nearly 100% of users get sick, he said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulator_sickness
>During simulation training, the body will eventually adapt to the environment to diminish the effects of simulator sickness. However, when long periods of time are spent outside of the simulator, the body is not able to adequately adapt and symptoms will reappear.
>Often, adaptation is the single most effective solution to simulator sickness. For most individuals, adaptation can occur within only a few sessions, with only a minority of individuals (3–5 percent) never being able to adapt
Just repeatedly make yourself sick bro for the *chance* to adapt and if you stop you have to do it all over again.
>but muh wikipedia
this is why teachers tell you not to use wikipedia for your essays
What? And putting your fingers in your ears crying "Noooooo that's not truuuue" is a better source of information?
I accept your concession.
You're fricking brain damaged and your post has nothing to do with what I said.
I don't care about your personal experience which are lies when I have data and articles supporting my claim.
>if you don't trust a website that anyone can edit you're in denial
ok
I don't see a [Citation Needed] homosexual
yeah because this isn't wikipedia this is Ganker you homosexual
>link to wiki which has citations supporting my argument
anyone can edit that
>i don't see a [Citation Needed] homosexual
>>this isn't wikipedia this is Ganker
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
do you really need me to citate the fact that anyone can edit wikipedia?
I'm obviously talking about the wiki page doesn't have a "citation needed" remark you absolute brain damaged window licking moronic moron.
>n-no you're the idiot
predictable
Respond to this:
>I'm obviously talking about the wiki page doesn't have a "citation needed" remark you absolute brain damaged window licking moronic moron.
You won't because it shows how fricking moronic you are.
>I'm obviously talking
clearly you weren't, stop lying to save face
Ganker doesn't have citations you fricking moron. I linked a wiki page with the claim that doesn't have "citation needed" next to it.
The only person lying to save face is you. You got fricking owned
>Ganker doesn't have citations you fricking moron
That's what I was telling you homosexual, jesus christ you're so dense
You're not telling me anything you fricking moron.
I linked a wikipedia page.
There was no [citation needed] mark.
You thought I was talking about Ganker
Because you're a fricking moron.
VR isn't expensive anon. I've had VR since 2016 lmao
>You thought I was talking about Ganker
because you were and now you're in denial about it
>I linked a wiki article supporting my claim
>You said anyone can edit wiki pages
>I said I don't see [citation needed] clearly talking about the wiki page, where citations are posted.
>You fricked up and thought I was talking about Ganker, because you're a fricking moron.
I accept your concession.
>devolved into nonsense
ok you're clearly too butthurt to type, no more (you)s
>I linked a wiki article supporting my claim
>You said anyone can edit wiki pages
>I said I don't see [citation needed] clearly talking about the wiki page, where citations are posted.
>You fricked up and thought I was talking about Ganker, because you're a fricking moron.
I accept your concession.
>so butthurt he's trawling the thread just waiting to reply
lmao, this is what anti-VR people act like
>I linked a wiki article supporting my claim
>You said anyone can edit wiki pages
>I said I don't see [citation needed] clearly talking about the wiki page, where citations are posted.
>You fricked up and thought I was talking about Ganker, because you're a fricking moron.
Why don't you respond to what happened? It's because you got owned.
I accept your concession.
>Why don't you respond to what happened?
I did, yet you still ignored it because you couldn't admit you were wrong and so butthurt you can't stop waiting in the thread for a response
>I linked a wiki article supporting my claim (
>the incidence of motion sickness after only 15 minutes is anywhere from 40 to 70 percent
>For some applications nearly 100% of users get sick, he said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulator_sickness
>During simulation training, the body will eventually adapt to the environment to diminish the effects of simulator sickness. However, when long periods of time are spent outside of the simulator, the body is not able to adequately adapt and symptoms will reappear.
>Often, adaptation is the single most effective solution to simulator sickness. For most individuals, adaptation can occur within only a few sessions, with only a minority of individuals (3–5 percent) never being able to adapt
Just repeatedly make yourself sick bro for the *chance* to adapt and if you stop you have to do it all over again.)
>You said anyone can edit wiki pages (
ok)
>I said I don't see [citation needed] clearly talking about the wiki page, where citations are posted. (
)
>You fricked up and thought I was talking about Ganker, because you're a fricking moron. (
)
You won't respond to this timeline of events. I'm under your skin and you're too scared to highlight me because I have you beat.
I accept your concession. Keeping completing those captcha's, poorgay.
>You won't respond to this timeline of events
I literally just did yet you're in denial and so butthurt about it that you tag unrelated posts you think are me
>I linked a wiki article supporting my claim (
>the incidence of motion sickness after only 15 minutes is anywhere from 40 to 70 percent
>For some applications nearly 100% of users get sick, he said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulator_sickness
>During simulation training, the body will eventually adapt to the environment to diminish the effects of simulator sickness. However, when long periods of time are spent outside of the simulator, the body is not able to adequately adapt and symptoms will reappear.
>Often, adaptation is the single most effective solution to simulator sickness. For most individuals, adaptation can occur within only a few sessions, with only a minority of individuals (3–5 percent) never being able to adapt
Just repeatedly make yourself sick bro for the *chance* to adapt and if you stop you have to do it all over again.)
>You said anyone can edit wiki pages (
ok)
>I said I don't see [citation needed] clearly talking about the wiki page, where citations are posted. (
)
>You fricked up and thought I was talking about Ganker, because you're a fricking moron. (
)
>I literally just did yet
Link it. I have you beat. I'm so under your skin you're back to highlighting me after getting called out.
I accept your concession.
>boasting about buying a Ganker pass
homosexual
keep completing those captchas, poorgay
>VR isn't expensive anon I've had the same headset for years.
I bought VR when it was $999 lmao, and you're gloating about owning a quest 2 for $300 or something?
LOL
you have some dogshit index , fricking lol. I bet you're running it real good with your 1080 too aren't you
>dogshit index
uh oh looks like you're the upset poorgay VRlet
>I still run my 6 year old headset with a shit GPU but you must be the poorgay
>too scared to highlight someone you lost an argument to
what a pussy lol
Yeah, hardware that lasts is a legitimate reduction in cost compared to the assumption that it would need frequent replacing or updating.
Yes. Because tech moves on. 6 year old headsets and GPUs are like dinosaurs vs what is available now. but you wouldn't know that would you?
Listen you illiterate redditor, when someone provides a source you don’t trust you can’t just go “lmao idiot” and claim victory. If you can’t or won’t provide better sources then the “bad” source is the best source available and you need to use it or have a nice day. This is basic logic.
>You're lying because I'm some feeble homosexual
You're lying because I have evidence proving you wrong.
There is no permanent fix for sim sickness / motion sickness / sea sickness.
Getting your sea legs is a temporary solution.
You fricking IQlet
>what happened to you doesn't count because my internet says so
frick you homosexual
>There is no permanent fix for sim sickness / motion sickness / sea sickness. Getting your sea legs is a temporary solution. Here is a page showing as much
>>oh yeah, well that's wrong.
Not an argument and I accept your concession.
I know your posting style. You're that broke homosexual who cries in the 4090 threads aren't you?
Good to see you also cry about VR headsets which you can't afford
>I accept your concession
lol seething third worlder
Touch grass moron.
Oh noes the world is too motiony, it must be impossible to live, I read it somewhere.
Not an argument. I accept your concession.
>homosexual who cries in the 4090 threads
Not me, but anyone who claims they're priced out of VR is self-reporting how destitute they are that they think VR is expensive.
>Not me,
Yes it is. Same style of crying, same stupid fricking images, same "accept concession" etc
You're a bitter little poorhomosexual who throws your tantrums on every thread about things you can't afford
>when I have data and articles supporting my claim
I will use the post of that other anon as my data saying you and your motion sickness fearmonging are full ofshit
>I linked a wiki article supporting my claim ()
>You said anyone can edit wiki pages (
ok)
>I said I don't see [citation needed] clearly talking about the wiki page, where citations are posted. (
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>You fricked up and thought I was talking about Ganker, because you're a fricking moron. (
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Vmoron BTFO.
He's too scared to highlight me.
He won't provide a counter-argument.
He will complete another captcha.
I command you to post again, mutt (Watch, he will, he's so mad that I'm under his skin lmao)
>Not getting motion sickness is a genetic defect.
I had motion sickness for like 2 days maybe, then it was gone forever, maybe if you have some sort of inferior biological characteristics it doesn't go away, but that makes you handicapped and its kinda moot to argue that a new technology doesn't work because it doesn't work with people with disabilities..
>I had motion sickness for like 2 days maybe, then it was gone forever
This isn't how it works. You might "get your sea legs", but it isn't a permanent fix. If you stop, you will need to start over and repeatedly make yourself sick again.
>maybe if you have some sort of inferior biological characteristics it doesn't go away
The entire reason motion sickness exists is to get toxins out of your system when your eyes and inner ear are sending conflicting signals to your brain.
If you don't get motion sickness, you're a genetically inferior sub-human who has a moral imperative to never reproduce.
>This isn't how it works. You might "get your sea legs", but it isn't a permanent fix. If you stop, you will need to start over and repeatedly make yourself sick again.
bullshit. I had a 2 year gap and returned without any ill effects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulator_sickness
>During simulation training, the body will eventually adapt to the environment to diminish the effects of simulator sickness. However, when long periods of time are spent outside of the simulator, the body is not able to adequately adapt and symptoms will reappear.
Remember, never trust Vmorons on anything. Now they're arguing that getting your sea legs is a one-time thing.
VRTards like it so they probably dont get sick you know you fricking moron
I had a 2 year gap and it didn't happen to me. Maybe it was some limp dick homosexual crying about VR tummy funny while playing games wrote the article
cope, weakling
The only weakling here is you with the genetic defect when you die from toxins. Meanwhile, I'll just throw it up like a decent human being.
i stopped for a literal year when i went to Barcelona for my masters degree, came back home and i had zero sickness. Its really just you, dude, you just werent born right. Normal people just get used to it after a while, its only you that are fricked up.
I don't care about your personal experience (which are lies, because you're a Vmoron). Show me data saying there's a permanent cure for motion sickness, or shut the frick up.
moron
>> Only 2 games
Vr is even a better at using emulators than flatscreens. If you like old games and dont have the hardware, VR is worth it just for emulation.
I have the actual hardware of my old consoles but EmuVR still is nice sometimes. It's comfy to be playing old vidya with virtual snow outside in a tiny bedroom. Would definitely recommend to anyone trying VR.
I bought and pirated loads of games and they're mostly good fun but in the end beat saber and occasional pistol whip is all I'm playing. Didn't even bother finishing Alyx.
RE4 VR should be the standard for FPS games in VR.
Nothing particularly fancy, just solid shooting and interaction with your arsenal.
I get having trouble with a game like Boneworks with the physics-based body but Alyx is built around teleportation movement, how does that make people sick?
Alyx has normal stick movement too. The sickness is better with teleportation but teleport movement sucks ass and is still kinda jarring as you warp forward.
>Alyx has normal stick movement too
yes but it was clearly designed around playing the whole game with just teleportation.
Robin Walker even talked about how Budget Cuts was the VR title that influenced Alyx the most since it showed that a game built around teleportation could still work.
Yea but the stick movement works fine most of the time. It's only when you're platforming or going through tight spaces that you need the teleport.
Also when you teleport you don't just instantly blink to the new position, you rapidly slide forward, which still causes motion sickness.
Isn’t slide teleportation better for motion sickness than blink teleportation?
I would think not, since the main cause of motion sickness is the eyes sensing movement when the inner ear does not, or vice versa.
Slide is less disorienting though.
Not only the vestibular system, but current evidence show that the gut (and maybe others) serve to detect micro changes in gravity. VR with locomotion will never be a thing and I dont see how you could develop games without
>VR with locomotion will never be a thing
You are talking like 99% is puking and shitting while playing VR games
You don't have to puke to feel awful, motion sickness lasts for hours, even days after you get it.
and you get used to it after a week or so and no longer feel it.
Do you think sailors didn't get sea sick when they first went out?
most people don't want to be sick for a week just to play vidya
Avg consumer is not going to get sick for a week in order to be able to play. Thus no games, ever
yeah they just bought a 500 headset to put it away because they felt a little queasy, when everyone informed them before hand they may feel a little queasy but it won't last forever.
Correct, that’s why Quest headsets have a reported low retension rate
Quest headsets have low retention rates because people realise they're shit
they're great for PCVR though
>great
no, they're serviceable.
not if you take the price into consideration, it's a steal
This. 3DS came out when I was in high school and all of my friends had one, but I was literally the only person I knew that would keep the 3D slider on. Everyone else gave up on it after it killed their eyes using it for 10 minutes. That happened to me too but eventually I built up a resistance to the point where I could play Zelda for eight hours straight in 3D and have no discomfort at all.
With that said, I bought a PSVR in 2019 and I still can't use it for more than an hour or so at a time.
>VR with locomotion will never be a thing
Because for some even just looking around in VR can trigger sickness. Removing smooth locomotion helps people last longer, but for some you'll eventually succumb.
>but for some you'll eventually succumb
for most, in my experience. Even the most hardcore VR players get sick from time to time
The vestibular system and whatever we use for detecting gravity is fricking crazy. I was involved in some experiences and people could detect a change in inclination of 0.05°
I can imagine delays in the image, inacuraccies etc just keep adding to the disconfort
Teleportation is so fricking shit, imagine people actually using it, you have sticks for a reason on those controllers stop being b***hes
Motion sickness is such a meme lmao like homie you can ride a rollercoaster you can play VR
most moronic thing ive ever read
Then why would they put VR headsets on rollercoasters?
It's the disconnect between what your eyes see and your body feels that makes people sick. The rollercoaster ones match those two things up.
I just finished playing some mini golf it was pretty fun and relaxing.
Needs to be $150 tops, Mark
>b-b-b-b-
Yeah, I knoooow. I know...
But it needs to be $150 tops, Mark.
Sell some more data, to make back the loss.
There is only so much money to be made from knowing what my wiener and room look like while I fap to VR shit.
Not a fan of meta but good monitors cost around the same mark, throw in a pretty good smartphone chip, the battery and controllers and you have a decent deal for $500, they are selling it at a loss anyway, it would cost 2x as much it it was made solely by oculus if it would even exist
People aren't comfortable jumping in because the library of games isn't there yet, and it wont be there until more people have headsets. They just need to deal with it and make one so cheap it justifies an impulse buy, and THEN we can start getting somewhere.
yeah, It's a double sided hatchet
The Quest 2 was already cheap enough to be an impulse buy for a lot of people at $300, and now it’s getting dropped to $250 for the holiday season.
Still too much. I wouldn't buy an Xbox controller for that amount, and most people are only ever going to regard VR as a glorified controller, not a game system in it's own right.
A bunch of people bought PSVR and that was $400 while still requiring a PS4 console and camera/move controllers
They could reach that price if they stripped out all the Metaberg data tracking and stopped trying to make it a standalone headset stuck in the Zuckerverse. But that would defeat the whole purpose of the headset.
$150 would get you one of those Gear VR/Oculus Go headsets with only 3dof tracking. Meta are attempting to breach the China market with a Quest 3 Lite but that will still be about $200.
>sim sickness isn't real / doesn't matter morons are here
Are these threads forever doomed by casuals getting woozy about motion sickness and never shutting up about it?
this and gays with no VR experience whatsoever playing armchair experts will always be the bane of these threads
That, and homosexuals farming easy (You)s by doomposting and shitting on something
TORtanic ruined this fricking board.
>muh secret club
We are pointing that it is an important issue without easy solution and, for normies, is a show stopper for wider adoption.
And without normies in, no developer will put resources into it, so no games
Is quest 3 really the best pcvr headset right now? I don't care about standalone but I would like wireless, I also already have a rift s that works perfectly fine
>Is quest 3 really the best pcvr headset right now?
For wireless use yes since it supports Wifi 6e and AV1.
I use it, its working perfectly, word of advice dont get shilled into buying Virtual Desktop, Air Link is completly enough but VD Tards will scream how air link is completly unusable while VD will give you 8k crystal clear image ona 5kb connection
I mean Oculus Link was pretty bad even with the official link cable
iirc there was a period when Airlink was worse than VD but that has not been true for a long time
Airlink is still worse in just functionality and freedom. I always hate the time im in airlink when im forced to do so. Number 1 pet peave is you don't get full freedom to screen size and placement
what encoder resolution and latency do you get?
what VD tards don't ell you is that it has a compatibility list and doesn't work with some games, the airlink works with every known game that works with the wired CV1
There's like 3 games that don't work. And usually they do but they force you to have oculus runtime as default which I'd rather just not play the game in such cases
Name 10 games that don't work with VD
airlink is fine but passthrough instead of THE VOID
is the main reason I use VD, that said, if I'm playing VRgames I just use airlink, VD is mostly for if I'm doing non VR stuff as the passthrough functionality is wayyyyyyyy too good to pass up. IF airlink ever adds the option for passthrough airlink I'm done with vd though those gays are absolutely annoying and refused to add above 100mb bitrate because "no one actually needs that, that's useless, we won't even give you the option" then banned people who started posting proof of differences at higher bitrates.
Just use immersed for passthrough,its better as it lets you add virtual screens all around the room, and its free
Does it have PiP and head tracking for screens? That's kinda a necessity for me now if I'm using it for MR shit (like having screens while on the treadmill)
I think so
The bigscreen beyond is the best but it's a complete different price range and the facial interface is custom made and it's order only.
1000$ for the headset and you need basestations + controllers + an audio solution of your choice. In total it's easily in the 1700$ range.
The quest 3 has 2x the resolution of the index (pixel per degree), new generation lenses that's gonna be standard for every headset coming out soon, is 500 bucks with controllers. You can play with a USB-C cable to your PC with PCVR and get roughly 3-4hrs of play and you can crank up the video stream to very high bitrate (900mbps) and never see artifacting and that's without adding any cost to optimize your wireless experience.
Kinda. Basically anything under 1k that came before quest 3 is now obsolete.
I like the new assassins creed, and RE4 VR is insane. I'm interested to see how the PSVR version of the remake stacks up.
I give it a month before you leave it in a cupboard for the next 3 years
>next month is unreal VR injector
nah
I can't fricking wait to start scripting motion controls for some games
Can't wait to play STALKER 2 with it, though I'm probably gonna run through the main story once flat first
I'm never gonna let you harvest my data, Mark
Okay since people have quest here, I've got a question. I have VD, I love how it has passthrough for desktop support.
But. I want to have my display pinned in my periphery. It sorta works that way with head tracking, but then I can't actually look to it at the side. I wish I could word it better, but I want to make it PiP, basically, where it's shrunk and in a corner of my frontal vision, as opposed to off to the side. But it seems whenever I place the display somewhere, it's just... stuck there, and if I move around or adjust in my chair it gets fricked and I need to re-set all the placements. Is there a way to get it to just follow my body as an anchor point or is that not possible?
one of the options at the top locks it to your vision but I dunno if there's a way to do waht you want with the main VD display
xsoverlay and ovrtoolkit or similar programs let you control stuff like that in-game though.
I wear a window on my wrist like a yugioh cardblade thing
Yeah I have the head tracking, main issue is if I move the display to the side, it, well, tracks my head, so I can never really see it. I'm trying to get something just a tad off-centered and VD can't seem to do that, and airlink doesn't support it at all, giving immersed a try later today when I get home, it seems like such an obvious feature but not VR, not XR glasses, nothing can seem to get it. It's strange.
>I'm so under your skin
how many times has he gone "no u" this thread? 10 times now?
>I linked a wiki article supporting my claim (
>the incidence of motion sickness after only 15 minutes is anywhere from 40 to 70 percent
>For some applications nearly 100% of users get sick, he said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulator_sickness
>During simulation training, the body will eventually adapt to the environment to diminish the effects of simulator sickness. However, when long periods of time are spent outside of the simulator, the body is not able to adequately adapt and symptoms will reappear.
>Often, adaptation is the single most effective solution to simulator sickness. For most individuals, adaptation can occur within only a few sessions, with only a minority of individuals (3–5 percent) never being able to adapt
Just repeatedly make yourself sick bro for the *chance* to adapt and if you stop you have to do it all over again.)
>You said anyone can edit wiki pages (
ok)
>I said I don't see [citation needed] clearly talking about the wiki page, where citations are posted. (
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>You fricked up and thought I was talking about Ganker, because you're a fricking moron. (
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You won't respond to this timeline of events. I'm under your skin and you're too scared to highlight me because I have you beat.
Why don't you just admit you fricked up? You continue to respond, despite losing the argument. I accept your concession.
NTA but just give it up moron.
Anyone played that new asscreed VR game? It looks kinda good for mobile slop.
It's solid. People b***h about meta buying exclusivity but you know what? It's clear that the "let people make what they want" tactic isn't working. Paid exclusives are the only way to kickstart the fricking ecosystem for VR after valve let it die after alyx.
It's the first "game" I've played in a while, it feels like it was made just for VR, and not a port, it's not an "Experience", it feels like a game, for VR. I can't stress enough how nice it is.
The game itself is a solid 8/10, a bit of jank but I mean, day 1 I'll cut it some slack for shit that can be patched, performance wise it's been fine on the q3, and I haven't had any crashes, looks alright (again, for q3), and things like leaps of faith, assassinations, sneaking, all feel good. Parkour feels good, climbing feels good.
Maybe not $40 good but that's a personal choice I guess.
I really liked playing audio shield and hotdogs horseshoes and hand grenades on my quest 2
Sold it recently cause I switched to Linux and I can't be fricked getting a valve index that may or may not work on my distro
Sure, H3 is great, I love it and it's probably #3 most used VR anything for me (#1 beat saber #2 skyrim vr, frick you.) but it's fricking 7 years old at this point. Anton still adds tons of content and it's great. But, again, it doesn't quite feel like a game, it feels like a sandbox.
>Ctrl + F "Concession"
>11 results
>I linked a wiki article supporting my claim (
>the incidence of motion sickness after only 15 minutes is anywhere from 40 to 70 percent
>For some applications nearly 100% of users get sick, he said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulator_sickness
>During simulation training, the body will eventually adapt to the environment to diminish the effects of simulator sickness. However, when long periods of time are spent outside of the simulator, the body is not able to adequately adapt and symptoms will reappear.
>Often, adaptation is the single most effective solution to simulator sickness. For most individuals, adaptation can occur within only a few sessions, with only a minority of individuals (3–5 percent) never being able to adapt
Just repeatedly make yourself sick bro for the *chance* to adapt and if you stop you have to do it all over again.)
>You said anyone can edit wiki pages (
ok)
>I said I don't see [citation needed] clearly talking about the wiki page, where citations are posted. (
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>You fricked up and thought I was talking about Ganker, because you're a fricking moron. (
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Still no counter-argument.
I still accept your concession.
>Ctrl + F "Concession"
>13 results
>week
wait till first impression of a new gimmick wears off
after 3 months it hard to justify the discomfort when you could just play normally
also no games, the VR library can be blasted through in a month, there are only a handfull of real games
>Ctrl + F "I accept your concession"
>10 results
I'm not going to give money to israelitebook, I don't care about standalone. Sell me good wireless PCVR headset.
best VR games so far
star wars tales from galaxy's edge
star wars vader immortal 1+2+3
re4vr
tetris effect+rez infinite
moss 1+2
jurassic world aftermath
crisis vrgade2
onward
iron rebellion
red matter 1+2
secrets of retropolis 1+2
a fisherman's tale + another fisherman's tale
i expect you to die 1+2+3
gun club vr
espire 2
green hell
7th guest
warplanes: battles over the pacific
creed
the climb 2
the room vr
walking dead saints and sinners
luckys tale
ven vr adventure
ninja legends
bone lab
blade and sorcery
battle talent
medalofhonor
teambeef vr ports
doom 1/2+3
quake 1+2+3
rtcw
jedi outcast (soon academy)
duke nukem 3d
prey 2006
virtual boy emulator
dolphin vr
emuvr
pcvr games
half life alyx
valve's the lab
elite dangerous
vtol
boneworks
star wars squadrons
microsoft flight simulator
project wingman
add anything missing
assasin's creed just came out
arashi final cut is coming soon
robo recall Black person
never heard of it
convince me on it with a video
watch a trailer or something
Compound
too repetitive
yeah, still love it though, there's just something very satisfying about the gunplay and no other VR game comes close in that department for me. Also wish more VR games went for this kind of aesthetic.
Check out the app that makes every first person game vr compatible.
Apple VR headset will revolutionize the gaming industry
best racing game to play in vr but with a gamepad? I have asseto corsa but I wqas looking for something with free roam/more scenic tracks.