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I will continue to all-in monk rush on arena and nothing else and nobody can stop me.
>Hindugay
>Celts on D tier
Confirmed for being a metaslave
Its overrated
I will continue to avoid multiplayer ad only play campaigns and maybe sometimes random match against Standard AI
Nobody cares
That's right, nobody cares about me, and nobody likes.
I like Hindustanis because their design and unit options appeal to me and not because of their strength in the current meta
And people say that europe needs diversity
How it it with the new HD complete addition or how its caled i played it once and then uninnstaled to make room for doom mods
Besides new races are the factions still same? Can franks still knight rush and brits have op archers?
DE is near universally seen as better than HD and the best way to play in current year. And yes, Brits and Franks along with most legacy civs keep their foundational strengths, devs are careful not to rock the boat too much with AoK-AoC civs
Too many civs have bombard cannons.
The problem is easily solved by either giving every civ bombard cannons or just removing them from the game.
Just nerf their speed and range and they have to buy new upgrades to get them back
Or just leaving it as is (except taking them from Gujaras).
Also, the Persians should get Steppe lancer.
Too many civs have trebuchets.
And italians still don't have siege engineers... like the italian siege engineers that where so sought after in medieval age
This is not a historical game.
Clearly not, considering mezo-americans and africans can compete with any european civ.
Any other insightful comments?
Yeah, me, uuhhmm give Italians siege engineers
You dont play the game
Not enough civs have bombard cannons.
The point of such maps is to allow metagayging tryhards to play Arabia when other players ban Arabia.
Persians should get either bracer or arbalest
If we want to improve their trashbows, we should do it by giving them bracer so as to also improve their cavalry archers.
But they don't need good archers. They're a cavalry civ. They were originally designed (in the AoK days) to have a complete cavalry tree. That's their whole identity.
I just want them to have good cavalry archers.
Go play magyars.
I'm perfectly aware that Magyars have good cav archers. My point still stands.
>Just give Persians everything!
>bracer OR arbalest
Are you blind?
>Steppe Lancers
>Bracer or Arbs
What next, should be give them siege onager and champions?
Nothing wrong with suggesting steppe lancers for Persians. It's just one guy who said they should get bracer or arbalester. Nobody is asking for siege onagers or champions. Calm the frick down.
No one said they had to have both steppes and bracer or arb, you sperg, just one of those 3 things would be fine. Personally I'd prefer just bracer so they have viable CA as well but +1dmg and +1 range on trashbows might be too much so just arbalest is fine
Giving wood only crossbows extra range is a terrible idea
Arbalester then. Only gives dmg and hp and costs more than bracer
>Arbalester
For what purpose? Why do you want to improve Persian archers?
Gives Huns and Turks steppe lancers. Give Burmese, Vietnamese, Khmer, and Malay armoured elephants and elephant archers.
Give Persians steppe lancers and armoured elephants. Switch their architecture to Central Asian since they really belong more in blue dome gang.
>malay with discounted ele archers and armoured eles
>Vietnamese and burmese with extra tanky ele archers and armored eles
>Burmese are, yet again, proven to be superior to Bengalis due to their bonus and CT negating damage done to armored elephants.
They created the blue domes style, steppegays just adopted it
Instead of steppe lancers they should get a new UU named Cataphracts with a charge or trample mechanic that will make archer gays seethe and the Byzantine one should be renamed to Kataphractoi to differentiate it.
Don't touch my Byzantines, homosexual.
If you don't like it just play cd version or hd my khomie
Stop trying to suggest "unique" paladins for the Persians. It's fricking stupid.
They really should get bracers
I have no idea why persians need trash CA.
Persian warfare meme identity was always elite cav, spear plebs and foot archers. This is what they found effective against their steppe enemies
Unique techs that only affect the unique unit are dumb, and should be part of the elite upgrade. Persians should lose Mahouts and get a unique tech that improves their cavalry archers, maybe make them attack faster. We don't need to give Persians bracer or arbalester.
Mahouts should make war eles die instead of being converted. It is literally what mahouts did, kill the elephant when it lost control
>effectively killing the best counter
Make it happen.
But it's an abstraction of the priest converting the mahout not the fricking elephant
The elephants without mahouts are still implied to have them just like siege have invisible engineers
I think its fine as the castle age tech, like bearded axe
but also I don't think anyone would want to drop like 3-4k for elite cataphract
Are you the guy from the forums always b***hing that Persians should be a cav archer civ?
Is Facebook gaming the next big thing, bros?
>tatars s-tier
>celts d-tier
>persians a-tier
i am afraid you have incurable moronation
Sorry, where exactly am I wrong?
Celts suck, I'm sorry to tell you.
>Celts suck
Skill issue
Ironically celts only really win in low ELO right now
how are tatars s-tier?
Great mounted units and they're fun.
Their archer openings come with extra food, letting them manually boost wood and gold early and delay taking deer. Their elevation bonus can be devastating if applied well during Feudal. Their free Thumb Ring gives them an easy transition to cavalry archers, and their camels then let them invalidate knights and force the enemy into cav archer counters, which are easy enough to deal with. From there, they control the map, and the game with it.
I have recently got into AoE2. I am ethnically Gujarati, should I play Gurjaras or Hindus?
Random civ.
Dravidians.
>I am ethnically Gujarati
Huns
I am considering getting in to AoE2 or 4 and I'm wondering is it easy to get big split map games on ladder? Like are people bad enough at ending that you can drag games out and build huge cities?
Just get 2, 4 is both a fricking joke AND dead
are people in low level aoe2 ladder good enough to thwart my split map intentions?
Depends how low you go. You can always play passive AI.
>Burmese in "C"
>Bohemians in "A"
Yes, problem?
Almost all of the expansion civs are fun. You should play with them. Especially the Tatars or Hindustanis.
>Yes, problem?
Problem, yeah. Burmese are directly superior to Bohemians. They have more options, they have real map control, and they have a healthier lategame
burmese are dogs, bottom tier for sure. bohemians also suck
>t. Can't into monks or archers
> hindustanis
If a civ is not in the original game, i'm not playing it. Devs need to frick off with the changes and pay to win promotions. We aren't playing AOE2 for novelty.
Technically Hindustanis are just a renamed Indians.
So you don't play Aztecs, Spanish, Koreans or Huns either?
Hindustanis are just Indians form HD Edition so I'm guessing you don't play that either.
Those are conquers expansio, no this DLC shit.
> Yes sirs. We are good fighters sirs. .
> We work very hard defeat all those knights and castles.
> Our superior culture helps us win sirs.
At least for mezo civs they take away techs that makes sense like gunpowder and horses. show me your Indian champions. Do it.
>At least for mezo civs they take away techs that makes sense like gunpowder and horses.
And then they replace them with functional equivalents. Most cultures in the game didn't use a direct 1:1 for the Champion. If you want a game where every unit is a UU, play AoE3.
>How DARE they add more civs to a game where all civs play the same anyway
>all civs play the same anyway
>Implying thats bad
>my point
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>your head
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why did hussite wagons fell out of use? Barely see them nowadays
Only useful against ranged units after castle age, and microing them to keep them between your archers and theirs is damn near impossible.
>microing them to keep them between your archers and theirs
shouldn't they naturally do this since they have less range than archers?
Unfortunately, archer fights involve a lot of micro due to the high accuracy of the units. The goal is often to oneshot each archer while keeping your own safe. This means clicking, not letting range determine the position of each unit.
I only play arena, I always go up 23 pop, I drop castles at enemy base until he resigns. I do this with every civ matchup. I'm 1800 elo.
>I'm 1800 elo.
You're 1800 arena.
post some games, I wanna see your strat.
I am playing against the standard CPU and too scared to take the step to moderate. I don't like losing I just want a comfy time...
If you dont want to lose go play farmville
Defeat gives Victory it's sweetness, and Victory without Defeat is tasteless
You wont get any sympathy here for remaining casual
Imagine a 30-year old man being the guy most excited to fight in the teens' fight club. That's you.
You can play the game how you want to, my friend. Don't let anyone tell you what to do.
Fyi, maybe you can consider the handicap system if you'd like to try moderate.
Just start looking at losing as fun and based. It's literally that easy brother.
t. reformed savescummer.
when i played VS AI in the old Aoe2 i could not enjoy it at all, because the AI spammed monks, just monks, and super microed comversions, you cant dive the monks, because they are spread out like 20 over 3 screen, the more you dive, the more you lose
>i am afraid of losing against the fricking cpu
really Black person?
I WILL Play as the Britbongs and spam archers
I WILL build multiple layers of walls and castles and never ever go on the offensive.
I WILL be called multiple slurs for this
I WILL lose the game
Memb sounds slightly more bearable to watch now. Did anything happen?
You learned to appreciate kino?
>"LE HECKING BOZO, ANBILIBABRO"
>titanic music on a recorder
>"TOTAL AND BROOTAL DOMINESHON"
>"AIM SORE GAIS BA DIS IS DOIN NO DEMEDJERAL"
>kino
This community is weird.
The word you are looking for is fun
am I moronic if I main Portugal because of Alberto Barbosa?
Yes, but also no.
you are based if you pick them on anything but arena
haha hohols are at the bottom tier just like irl
But I thought AOE2 Slavs represented the whole Kievan Rus, mot just the russian principalities
They do, pol Black folk just need to show they are pol Black folk
>Coastal forest 4vs4
>Second pocket doesnt rush, booms instead
>2vs3 we lose momentum
>Second pocket is genuinally surprised when we resign early
Boy I sure do wish X civ had Steppe Lancers!
>Dies to pikes
>Dies to archer player with more than 30 APM
Boy I'm never using Steppe Lancers again!
They're a fun and thematic unit, and thematically futting for more civs than those that currently have them. The true pain is having champs as your fav unit.
Steppe lancers are used to support melee units in tight spaces.
>>Dies to pikes
Skill issue, Lancers actually handle pikes relatively well compared to knights
>Skill issue
The average elo here is sub 1k and the average APM is probably under 30. 99% of these posters are not microing steppe lancers against pikes.
Get good Holy shit, I'm 900 elo and just manage to use them just fine (when called for).
2bh the attack animation of steppes is awful, their windup takes forever
>had crashing problems out the ass trying to connect with a friend yesterday
>rollback happens
Well alright I guess.
why do all the best civs have to be ugly?
Tatars aren't ugly.
I agree my brother
>2 Latina civs
>Poles
>Greece
>China
>France
>Persia
>France 2
What?
Dude you ever played Persians with sound on? Their women sound like bears growling.
Bulgarian monks sound like they’re about to drop dead.
At least you don't need to micro your monks early game every single time.
They do not.
It doesn't even make sense for persians to be in the game. Who are they supposed to be
The Sassanids, then it represents all the peoples and kingdoms that ruled the lands of modern day Iran after the caliphate broke down and when they were not being ruled by the mongols/timurids
Civs in this game don't represent dynasties, except for Burgundians. They represent ethnic groups. The Persians represent the Persians.
>Persians
>Portuguese
>Hindustanis
>Tatars
>Turks
Why did I type Persians? Remove that.
>Portuguese
They have their own language and thus qualify, even if they branched off from the Spanish quite late. I admit this is a difficult one though.
>Hindustanis
>Tatars
>Turks
What about them?
Hindustanis, I was mistaken.
Tatars seem to cover both Central Asians (Turks, Huns, Mongols), and the Timurids within Persia, who went on to conquer much of India under the Mughal Dynasty.
Turks are a large ethnic group, but they only represent certain Turkic kingdoms due to the various Turkic factions in the game. Similar thing with Slavs and the Kievan Rus.
Tatars cover the Turkic people of Central Asia, like Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Uyghurs and stuff. They don't cover Turks and Mongols, even though they're related. We don't even know anything about Huns so we don't know who they are.
>Turks are a large ethnic group
Depends how you interpret the word. The name Turkey is a totum pro parte. Let's just call them Ottomans or something.
>Slavs
Ambiguous name but their design had always been 100% Rus.
The various islamic powers that ruled over persia
me
>Bengalis and Dravidians in B
>Bohemians in A
HA
Jesus Christ which one of you was this
Couldn't be me, I love guns.
aoezone is the biggest cancer that this game has ever produced
at this point there isnt a single reason why that moronic place should even exist
all threads are the same 10 namegays who arent casters, tournament organizers or even pros shitting in all the decisions taken and acting like they are a fricking cult who knows better than anyone else
and the refusal of moderating the place makes it even worse
alpha as frick
too bad, got banned already, quite the feat in aoezone
>Get matched against someone 100 elo higher than me 1v1
>1.5 hour game
>Win
Kek. That's enough 1v1s for awhile bros.
Wtf españabros, why we suck now?
Spanish actually have a win rate over 50% on all maps except Arabia
Winrate isn't everything.
What's the best forum to talk about AOE2 besides Ganker (and reddit)?
AoEzone
Discord, unironically.
Reddit
the AOE2 official forums
LOL no, aoezone is the biggest cancer of the game right now
vstee is not even that good of a place to talk about aoe2.
Yeah, I noticed.
>t. archergay
>the militia line is a trash counter
Does anyone ever specifically make swordsmen with the purpose to counter trash? Anyone? Archery range units are way better at countering spears, mounted units are way better at countering skirmishers, spears are way better at countering scouts. Can we please stop pretending anyone ever makes swordsmen to counter trash?
Tech swapping in the middle of an opponent making halbs/skirms can win the game.
You aren't going full archers when someone is sending spears at you with skirmishers. Does it happen often? No. Can you make siege instead? Yes. But it is an option and the militia line does have it's uses.
I don't use swordsmen as a trash counter. I use it as the offensive arm of a counter-army.
If you're going purely for melee cavalry, I make spears, then add swords and attack your stables. If you're going purely for archers, I make either skirms, cavalry, or scorpions, add swords, then attack your archery range.
If you're going purely for infantry, I make archers, add swords, then attack your barracks.
The purpose is more to punish the enemy for using a single-unit composition by giving your counters teeth.
I do that sometimes in imp, works ok'ish. But the long time it takes to tech into is rough. It's pretty nice to have as an option with bulgarians though. Two-handed swordsmen powerspike is pretty good in early imp.
Specifically? No, but they're a effective unit that nullifies the use of trash as a counter so I build them with that included.
>Archery range units are way better at countering spears, mounted units are way better at countering skirmishers, spears are way better at countering scouts
the idea is that you use swordsmen when your opponent is making 2 or 3 of these units and you can't be assed to make a proper counter composition
That's the idea, but does anyone actually do that? It takes ages and tons of resources to tech into them. You're better off just making other units and microing them properly.
see
It's momentum-dependent.
What are some good custom campaigns? I've tried some, but I didn't really like any because they are either incredibly grindy, have dumb mechanics, have an ugly map... It seems like there are no custom campaigns on the same level as the official ones.
Which ones you tried to play?
The good:
>The Imjin War
This one is actually good. Not all custom campaigns are bad, I was exaggerating. I hope I can find other good ones. This one felt like a real AOE2 campaign.
>Blood for the serpent god
I normally don't like total conversions, but this one was very cool, amazing athmosphere.
>Three kingdoms Cao Cao's ambition
>Kaesong
>Battle of Sighnaq
These were fine, but not amazing.
>Kings of West Africa
I've only completed 3/9 but it looks good so far.
The mediocre:
>Apranik
I liked 2 out of 5 scenarios. Scenario 2 was annoying, 3 and 4 were way too grindy.
>Haiku of the Ronin
>A journey west
>City of peace
I like the concept, but it's just not my cup of tea.
>Battle of blue waters
Meh, nothing bad about this one, but nothing good either.
>Wreck of the Santa Maria
Kamayuks in Indonesia, really?
>El imperio Inca DE
Very strange campaign. In one scenario you have to repair a bridge, and the game instructs you to save and reload to make the bridge passable, okay lol. Another scenario is just your monk racing against another monk to collect more relics on a very very tiny tiny map. Very weird.
The bad:
>Valhalla's edge
Not fun at all.
>Shimazu: daimyo of the nine provinces
>Struggle for Japan
Not AOE2 at all. Complete conversion, and not for the better. I don't want to learn how to play a completely new game just for one scenario.
>Rise of Seljuk
Oops, you immediately ran into a group of enemies after scouting 5 seconds into the game, you lose now.
>Abubakari the seafarer
If you choose to go south instead of north, you just lose the game.
>Francis Drake on the Spanish main
What the frick is this shit? Requires a lot of luck and absurd amounts of sweaty tryhard micro.
>Willem van Oranje
Grindy and boring. A scenario is not good if I have to use marco polo before I start.
>Lidingguo
One hero unit? That's it?
Thank you.
>way too grindy.
I don't get it, that is literally the points of all the fricking campaigns, even in the base game, I utterly hate them. Ironically, I like 1v1 ladder because I like to learn and watch how I slowly get better at this game.
There are some campaigns in the base game that are like this, but not most.
Persian is an incredibly beautiful language and it just sounds so dull in AOE2. What a shame.
the Ulio campaign is probable the best custom campaign ever made, i dont know if its available on DE thought
also you can check Ornlu youtube channel, he as a lot of custom campaign recommendations there
>Tune into MBL's stream after aM loses a game
>Hera tilted and b***hing
Kek every fricking time this dude reminds me of me when I was younger.
>moves to Argentina
Please be patient. He's mentally ill.
>Hera tilted and b***hing
A song as old as time
>Teammate tries to take my pond on black forest
>Ragequits when i deny him
Hi Viper
I will continue to play Franks but never build stables.
>touted as the noob map for decades
>turns out it is the most fun team map to play and all the rage among pros
>monks can literally heal farms
WHAT
THE
FRICK
Druidmagik
>Spend over an hour in a game
>Push, raid, whatever. Can't kill his main army
>Make my civ's mediocre archers
>Immediate gg
Okay, so halb-arb is NOT countered by Scorpions. Got it.
All archers need to deal 1 less damage.
>Black Forest getting voted in by a huge margin
I hate these Black folk that don't play and get to vote in shit.
Map pool has always been shit. I don't think is worst now that the ingame vote is a thing
All me
You can't vote if you don't have it installed anymore, morono.
moron
What are our fun only frens doing? Do you homies play online?
I do but highly unlike most of folks here play online
im 13xx but i only play with mouse, remembering hotkeys is too tiring
maa into archers kills most of my opponents within 15min
Cull the weak
Are you a hoang rusher?
hi /vstrannies/ I bought this game and just beat the Mongol campaign. I think I bought the wrong version of the game, I got AoE2 HD edition.. I just beat the mongol campaign and it was really fun.
Any tips on faster sieging ? i can only seem to siege with trebuchets..
>I got AoE2 HD edition
homie you fricked up big time, that version at this point is abandonware, and the online suck all kinds of balls
>Any tips on faster sieging ?
for destroying buildings on a cluster near each other, you can use capped/siege rams that have area effect, they are cheap but slow. The other option is to use siege cannons when available in your tech tree
i almost lost a mission in campaign because i didn't realize the rams had AoE.. when taking Jerusalem one of the mission requirements is you can't destroy any holy sites, so I thought I'd send the ram in as a precise strike.. The tower and holy shrine are right next to each other and I realized it was hitting both when the Shrine was on liek 500 hps
>homie you fricked up big time, that version at this point is abandonware, and the online suck all kinds of balls
Well i've looked at DE now.. I guess I did mess up, but looks like they made the game much more casual in this edition
they just simply removed all the inconveniences of the old AOE2
being able to give your vills chain commands, queue techs and auto reseed farms makes the game much more focused on your military skills and than microing your eco which is boring
not to mention walls are much worse and more expensive than in HD so playing defense is much harder
>not to mention walls are much worse and more expensive than in HD so playing defense is much harder
to me it looks they reduced APM requirements to help noobs outs. did they do the same for Brood War remastered?
>to me it looks they reduced APM requirements to help noobs outs
What the frick are you talking about? Reallistically is the other way around, since you got ways to improve the efficiency of your actions you need more APM to keep up with good players
>did they do the same for Brood War remastered?
The frick?
>create systems that require less APM
>"uhmmm achstually it means you need to have MORE apm!"
>>"uhmmm achstually it means you need to have MORE apm!"
Yes because now good players require less actions in order to keep up with economy and army, meaning that a casual needs to keep up with APM more than before,. back at HD since it barely had any accessibility and customization options.
Dumbass.
Vote for competitive maps you bastards or i will come to your house
Land nomad is competitive because it's about not dying of boredom
Frick you Land Nomad is great
if someone could throw me some better hot key setups i'd appreciate it.
(Ctrl+L ?? what the frick is that?)
Vietnam team got caught cheating in Nations Cup
Map hacer? How did he get caught?
https://www.aoezone.net/threads/songsong-once-again-caught-cheating-in-a-tournament.185776/
>Chinese cheating
Shocking.
asiatics and chinks cheating
they found out he was watching a stream of the opponent team to see their map
>stream match
>casually breaks gentleman's agreement
>gets disqualified
This only makes more impressive the fact that viper stood numbah one so much time and no vietnamese/chink player is close to him knowing how much they cheat. I literally do no understand
Because in AoE2 there are huge skill differences, between various elo ranges and even between pro players, meanwhile cheating can only get you so far without being blatant. Also the strongest chinese players don't cheat
>Also the strongest chinese players don't cheat
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Also one Mexico team got disqualified for unsportsmanlike behavior. Anyone know what that behavior was?
paradox303 — 03/03/2023 6:57 PM
Hello all,
During the process of scheduling their group stage matches, the admin team has observed unsportsmanlike behavior from Mexico B, including obstruction of normal tournament scheduling by refusing to reply to their opponents, obtuse dialogue, mocking other teams and players, forgetting and deflecting attempts to schedule with them.
When approached to speak on this, Mexico B alleged that one of their players had fallen ill and others were busy with work or school, and abruptly changed team captains causing further disruption to attempts to schedule with them.
Throughout this period members of the team were streaming 4v4 RM ranked matches. All the while refusing to make good-faith attempts to schedule with their opponents. This was particularly noticeable in the case of Argentina A, with whom Mexico B continually showed no interest in entertaining the idea of scheduling their matches in advance in favor of a "more hype final game".
While not all of the above actions constitute rule infractions in isolation, taken together they display a frequent pattern of failing to respect their competitors and the spirit of the rules. Before the start of the tournament, it was made clear to them that their participation was contingent on good conduct throughout it. It is clear that they have failed to meet this requirement.
On March 1st Mexico B was given an initial warning to improve their scheduling efforts and in March 2nd they were given a package of sanctions, including an ultimatum:
- 10% prize deduction.
- AL for their game against Argentina.
- 24hrs to post their availability for the remaining GS period (4th to 19th), including times for the 4th and 5th, and accept any time their opponents pick within those Mexico B provided.
Last night, March 3rd, they failed to comply with the ultimatum presented, having made no efforts to show a schedule what so ever and thus were Disqualified from the competition.
Love these events where we get to know the culture of countries from all around the world and understand why some of them are undeveloped.
Ummhh sweetie, don't put them all in the same bag will ya hhmm? I know plenty of chinese people that are smart and honest and honored and waay better than any white peapo I know hhhmm?
Mexico is well know to have the dirtiest and most scummiest AOE2 players
they get awfully butthurt when they lose and you call on their bullshit
Hoang should have been on team Vietnam instead, just let him play Celts for one game
I never asked for BF but am sure hell wont make this fun for the gays here
everyone doing fishinchips because of viper I see
Yeah, has been popular for 1 or 2 months if my memory doesnt fail me
Pro games have been utilising the lakes for a while, Viper makes it popular but he didn't come up with fish booming on bf
>T90 and Daniel throwing games for the US team
Incredible. No one saw this coming!
I wish we could put together a decent team for once. Fricking hell.
What could be a decent US teams anyways. I only know Daniel and he is an arabia only player
>What could be a decent US team
Not possible. All the big US players are one map wonders or just meh all arounders. Then there's T90 who I have no idea how managed to hit 2.3k.
High Elo is a little bit inflated right now so 2k5 is not elite tier anymore
>team Norway has Viper and Mbl
>got 3-0 not only by Finland but also UK team with literally whos
Pretty rough for the Norwegians, eh?
It's very difficult for 2 people to carry in a 4v4. That UK team regularly plays with each other on ladder.
I mean, Finland is probably the best team country and I think Viper and MbL are mostly 1v1ers.
Don't think they're taking it that seriously, Viper is more concerned with NAC4 and MBL is MBL.
>MBL is MBL.
Fricker never trains and then go on his streams to be depressed about being bad.
>watching Rage Forest draft on Viper's stream
>MBL asks "who can I pick?"
>Viper smiles and shakes his head
I like how there's MBL who has the time in the world to train now but probably won't take it seriously and then there's Lierrey who basically never starts to train for anything and places top 4 every time. Both on the same team lmao.
After I get a ranked win I piss around in custom games, specifically any datamod/custom map. only problem is, the maps don’t transfer, only the data mods, so I can’t host my own Tower Defense games. Where2cop these kinds of maps. I’m SWGB you automatically got the scenario with a match of Castle Blood of whatever
Go to the mods page and look for them.
>Black Forest getting voted in for 1v1s by 10% more than the next highest
This is some pretty blatant misuse of a poll by community members that don't actually play the maps.
you forget that +1200 players represent less than 25% of the playerbase in the ladder
that means all the noobs will always vote for black forest because is the easiest 1vs1 map to boom and have imperial fights
Could you imagine if fricking Michi got voted in?
There are no more streams because of the NAC right?
>no more streams
huh
NAC is played on LAN in Germany
that means all players have to go to there and cant stream for like 2 weeks
Memb will be streaming it from his house.
So will other shitty small streamers.
Dave/T90 will be casting the games at Gamer Legion's gaming house since that's where it's taking place. You can find a video touring the place on Nili's or Viper's channels I think.
>cant stream for like 2 weeks
breh
What a moronic place to write this and send it dude, too bad it was his friend that died and not him. Fricking idiot
lmao facebook chat is so fricking bad
You talk like Twitch's isn't radioactive waste.
ye, I do remember someone asking hera to only play turks that day. Tiktok fried their brains
9 more days Ides of march bros
Wait it be literally nothing because FE never set a date and the forums implode because of their own expectations.
>Arabia pops up
>today I wanna play Berbers
>enemy is Burmese
>tries to meme a castle and Arambai
>go Camel Archers, Genitours and Light Cav
>he makes knights
>they die to the Camel Archers
>he sends in pikemen
>die to the Camel Archers and Genitours
>he sends in mangonels
>I suicide the Light Cav to take them down
>he starts making Skirms
>just keep Light Cav walking around the battle to soak skirms while Camel Archers do that sweet 7 base attack damage
>he goes Imp without eco
>stay in Castle Age, make 4 rams, mow his castle and his nearby buildings down
>if I ever get ~6 Light Cav spare I send them inside his base
>he didn't wall either
I don't know what I'd have done in his shoes, but then again, I wouldn't play Burmese to begin with.
Should have went with monks+elephants.
I really think the Camel Archers would shred both of them because of how sluggish they are and Camel Archer damage per shot is nuts, though I haven't seen it play out yet. And the monks will not get a single conversion if I micro properly.
Also, Light Cav hard counters the monks.
>I really think the Camel Archers would shred both of them because of how sluggish they are
Burmese Elephants tank Camel Archers easily. He'll make them faster than you can kill them.
Depends how they're microed, but Burmese Monks are nothing to sneeze at, nor are their elephants especially against archers. Manipur cavalry hussars as well could be a very dangerous unit assuming they get to the late game to.employ them.
A camel archer trains in 25 seconds, that is 250 seconds for ten, and if the opp has good monk micro he can convert at least half of that. Burmese elephants cost too much, they are great in the lategame
>Burmese elephants cost too much
They are expensive, but a few of them can push archers VERY hard with their increased pierce armor, if used in the right spot with the right support.
>50 hours in
>still no clue about what to do after dark age
Build army, Build eco, use army.
Wait until you get to 1500 hours haha
8 days
I play Aztec and tower/ inventry rush, every game.
I will convert your elephants
What's in your inventory?
What's so wrong about slinging in 4v4 anyways
>but we will only have 2v2 with two players just sending res
So?
Are you talking about for tournaments?
I love fast Imperial as Turks, are there any other civs that can do a good fast Imp? It's funny as hell watching proxy castlegays panic as the BBC descend upon them
Byzantines, Italians, Malay and Portuguese. New Portuguese have an eco bonus so they are stronger in a fast imp
Please teach me Malay. I keep screwing up the feudal build orders and castle transition. What should I do?
Probably learn how to follow a build order.
Imagine you are following an ordinary build order, then create 2 extra villagers
Malay is an enticing option because of its ultra fast advance time and -40% off elephants in Imperial
Italians (and their allies) can go into Condotierri
but wtf is Byzantine and Portugal going to with fast Imp?
Byz have what? Logistica E. Cataphract? That would take a castle, elite upgrade and Unique tech. Way too slow for a fast Imp, better of doing a standard boom for that.
Portugal have guns, but if you're doing a fast Imperial for hand cannoneers and bombard cannons you may as well be playing Turks or Bohemians
They get cheaper imperial age and get this powerful unit called arbalest, they also have pretty decent monks (Burmese can also just go monks fast imp).
Portuguese get monks, gunpowder and feitorias, so they can go fast imp and add eco
Knight-cataphract and massed archers into organ guns seems like the way to go.
>Byz have what?
skirms with chemistry and bracer that kills literally anything that the opponent in castle age have
>kills literally anything that the opponent in castle age have
If only (You) knew
Why does it take almost a full fricking minute to even access saved games now?
>it's fricking nothing.jpg
These honestly don't look too bad. I mean the controller stuff is gay but these Relics are pretty easy to spot.
>These honestly don't look too bad
They look awful
The lack of detail on these Siege Towers makes them look so uncanny holy shit
Looks like an Xbox to me.
>Final task unlocks a reskin for Siege Towers
>They still haven't been buffed despite years and years of being useless
I don't give a frick if the balancing and events departments might be run by different people, I'm still mad.
7 days Romeaboos.
>two (2) forward golds
>on black forest
Imagine having a bad map on black fricking forest. Fricking devs man
>Has a pond
Viper doesn't care.
>11/7 armors in your way
psshhh nuthhing personnel kidd
Say hello to my main civ.
settle down both of you
and they said it was a meme unit
ahem
fanculo i cavalieri
fanculo gli arcieri
fanculo la fanteria
fanculo schermagliatore
who cares about these guys when halberdiers already do a million trillion damage to cavalry? They're just a consolation prize because Italians only have Pikes.
Not him but I'd take G xbows over halbs anytime, they overall perform better on the anti cavalry department than halbs
Genoese bows still function as archers though.
Horses just run around the halberdiers while Genoese crossbows can actually shoot at them from a distance. Not as good as camels, but better than halberdiers.
I was going to explain it, but I'd rather just keep them low profile. Haha yeah they're so bad, they should buff italians in land maps asap.
BASED
>11 armour
>Still does to man with pointy stick
Do Boyars lose to camels?
Boyars barely beat camels 1vs1 but boyars get bodied by camels with equal resources, SPECIALLY gold equal resources
They can punch and breakthrough small or unsuspecting camel armies with their brute strenght but more than that boyars just die
>go to sell my starting 200 stone at the market
>saracens on the enemy team already did, crashing the value
>he also bought food, pumping its cost
Post your pfp
WHY THE POLES AT THE TOP?
My favorite strategy is to go Mongols, go fast imperial, make champions, stuff them into siege towers, and raid the enemy base with the fastest unit in the game
shutup you never actually do that
>mongol champions
>fastest unit in the game
Inside of a Mongol Siege Tower, they are
I think MBL has actual braindamage
What did he do now?
6 days plebeians
When will we get the AoE I civs in II? I want to play as babylon and asyria in a game with gates.
You can play the Rome at War mod but other than that it is highly unlikely.
They announced a DLC called "Return to/of Rome" back in october iirc and it had all the main civs of AoE I in the cover.
Kamarandan affecting cav archers when?
Literally would make it the best trash unit in history of the game.
>Kipchaks without extra arrows
They would still be trash
same damage as archers but with 80hp cav archer mobility and 6 pierce armor sure. kipchaks have low damage! kipchak damage is bad. normal cav archers have high damage with bracer and average damage without.
>random Berbs
>enemy masses Mangudai
5 more days bros trust the plan
HE made a video on THEM. You know who/what I mean.
A civ exclusively carried by their UU
Skill issue.
No, not really.
Tell me the last time in which you saw a Spanish picker NOT going for Conqs, and if you did, compare that number to the times you saw Spanish pickers rushing conqs.
Spanish are carried by their UU and im factually, objetively correct.
I pick Spanish for their trade on Michi.
>Michi
It doesn't count.
Fricking hell Im more willing to take BF more seriously than Michi
I pick Spanish for their trade on Black Forest.
No you dont
Spanish needs a rework, most AOK and AOC civs need some tweaks, in fact.
Byzantines and Turks are not ambiguous, they are clearly European and Asian. Wtf?
I don't see them fricking with AoK/AoC civs in a major way because it'll piss off everyone who's been playing them since the 99/2000.
https://voca.ro/1o7EISXkLczV
>playing Lithuanians, Arabia
>hate using spear line
>enemy is Malians
>woop his ass in feudal with my scouts
>get to castle age, secure all 5 relics
>please don't go camels please don't go camels I fricking hate making spears
>he goes camels
>start bulking pikemen
>he doesn't harass me one bit in castle age, I poke him at the sides a bit
>seems like he's got a few scorpions now
>kill like ~5 scorpions
>we both go imperial
>time to push his shit in
>he comes to my base with like 4 gebettos
>baits my halberdiers into a few scorpion shots
>send my knights in, almost cavalier
>kill ~3 scorpions
>he forfeits
god dammit what a waste of time
>Malians player losing to scouts in feudal
You knew he was bad when the game started. Why are you surprised?
Jags, Thirisadai, TKs, Arambai, Rathas, Hussites, and Chakrams.
What I meant was if you're gonna forfeit once you lose 10 units then just forfeit in Feudal geez. Or maybe he got scared because I got all relics.
>please don't go camels please don't go camels I fricking hate making spears
just add monks to your +6 attack knights then
Yeah yeah, everyone thinks Conquistac**ts are the shit
But what are the WORST unique units?
Jaguar Warriors, Hussite Wagons, and Genitours
unironically teutonic knights and persian war elephants
Those units at least have some value for their tankiness and raw power, even if their glacial pace leaves them vulnerable. I'd go with the Jag or wood raider. There is almost never a situation that those units would be a good choice.
Woad raiders fit into Celt play style well and get used all the time in late game. They're a decent UU. They train fast and are good at raiding, + they have decent overall stats. Celts can only go inf + siege in imp and if you have castles at that point making woad raiders is a good choice most of the time. It's miles better than the jaguar warrior
>Dissing my lads Woad Raiders
They are great as castle age units, not so much in imperial, great for jumping archers, siege, they do 'okay' vs knights, raid and bust TCs like no other
Woads are faster than eagles, so saying they're shit is a bit of a stretch. They've got decent stats and don't cost too much for what you get. That said, dropping their cost to 20g or giving them 1 more base pierce armor would be good and give you more reason to train them as Celts.
Isn't the point of this unit that it's shitty, but you can amass a shit ton of them? Although it's kinda off-set by the fact you need castle to train them.
Karambits are good. Fast infantry with respectable stats. Only issue is the fact that Malays have a high skill floor.
You have to mass those in castle age Survivalist style
>all the best civs are literallywho Black folk and then fricking poles
this game sucks ass now and all the gay Black person dlcs ruined it. should've remained eurocentric instead of every shitty meme civ with busted game mechanics
>Mayans and Aztecs
>Literallywho Black folk
Frick off to /misc/
The game was never eurocentric you dumb frick
in AoK, out of 13 civilizations :
>6 are europeans
>5 are non-europeans
>2 are ambiguous (byz and turks)
>The game was never eurocentric
>7 European civs
>3 West Asian civs, 2 of which are closely connected to Europe
>Chinese, Japanese, and Mongols
Way to have a nice day in the foot.
>adding Saracens and Turks to aoe2 is eurocentric because they had contact with Europeans
What a dumb fricking thing to say.
>7 civs out of 13 are outright European
>2 more are centered on their interactions with Europe
>All of China is bundled in as a single civ
>Totally not Eurocentric though
Because you lack perspective, an even way to ration these would be something like, "3 Euro, 6 Asian, 3 African, 1 Meso".
You are dumb as frick if you think Saracens and Turks were added just because they interacted with Europe and not because of their many achievements. Do you even know anything about history? Like at all?
>All of China is bundled in as a single civ
Yes, because China is one civilisation in real life. How stupid are you?
>You are dumb as frick if you think Saracens and Turks were added just because they interacted with Europe and not because of their many achievements.
Please tell me why they went with "Saracens" and not "Arabs", and why both of their scenarios are centered on their conflicts with Europe. Further, why, out of all Turks, did they specifically go for the Ottoman Turks?
>Do you even know anything about history? Like at all?
Do you? You're fricking dumb if you think they weren't chosen primarily for their European connections.
>Yes, because China is one civilisation in real life.
Meanwhile, in Yunnan, Manchuria, Tibet, Xinjiang, and Funan...lol.
Because Saracens sounds more medievaly than Arabs. You know, like Vikings and Franks.
Because the Ottoman Turks were the ones with the huge empire.
Any medieval game that doesn't focus on Europe would add Saracens/Arabs no matter what. It's perhaps the number one most important Medieval civilisation out of all of them, even if you ignore the crusades.
Explain to me why a eurocentric medieval game adds Japanese, Chinese and Persians.
>Yunnan, Manchuria, Tibet, Xinjiang
Manchus, Tibetans, Uyghurs and all those people in Yunnan are not ethnically Chinese. They are different civilisations who don't necessarily need to be represented in a game with only 13 civs.
>Funan
I think you got confused here.
>Because Saracens sounds more medievaly than Arabs.
You're not even trying.
>Because the Ottoman Turks were the ones with the huge empire.
Are we just going to ignore the Mughal empire now?
>Explain to me why a eurocentric medieval game adds Japanese, Chinese and Persians.
Because even a Eurocentric game can acknowledge the existence of Persia and the Far East if it means having an exotic faction or 3 (Samurai, CKN, African War Elephants covered in metal) while getting guaranteed weeaboo bucks.
>Manchus, Tibetans, Uyghurs and all those people in Yunnan are not ethnically Chinese.
Ethnically Han?
>They are different civilisations who don't necessarily need to be represented in a game with only 13 civs.
Not where I was going with that.
>I think you got confused here.
No, I'm being serious. If we're going to put Goths, Teutons, and Vikings in the same game, we can put Hakka in alongside the broader Northern Han.
>You're not even trying.
Don't take it from me. Sandy Petersen litterally said that.
>Are we just going to ignore the Mughal empire now?
You have again shown a complete lack of understanding what AOE2 is trying to do. Sure, the rulers were Turks, but the people were Indians.
>Ethnically Han?
Yes, Chinese. Equating Tibetans and Ughyurs with Chinese is like equating Bohemians and northern Italians with Teutons.
>Not where I was going with that.
Then where were you going with that?
>Hakka
The Hakka didn't live in Funan, you made a typo. I absolutely see the parallel you make with Goths, Teutons and Vikings. They are ethnically related but different groups. The thing is, however, Goths, Teutons and Vikings were all independent of each other and developped on their own. This does not apply to Hakka, Cantonese and the Northern Han who always had a shared history, even during times of political fragmentation such as civil wars. The Hakka and Cantonese are considered a subgroup of Han, whereas Teutons, Goths and Vikings are different branches. I get your point you're trying to make here, but I don't think it applies in the way AOE2 is designed. And even if it did, there are many other civs that are more deserving to be in the game than the Hakka.
>You have again shown a complete lack of understanding what AOE2 is trying to do. Sure, the rulers were Turks, but the people were Indians.
And in the cases of the Vikings and Mongols? Anon, the Mughal empire was the result of Turks conquering the region.
>Yes, Chinese.
No, I said Han. All of them are Chinese, but most of the groups I mentioned aren't Han.
>Then where were you going with that?
I was poking at you for suggesting China was just a single civilization at the time.
>The Hakka didn't live in Funan
Ah. I meant to type Fujian. You're right.
>The thing is, however, Goths, Teutons and Vikings were all independent of each other and developped on their own.
The Vikings were largely Pre-HRE Germans who migrated north due to the Carolingian empire's conflict.
>I get your point you're trying to make here, but I don't think it applies in the way AOE2 is designed. And even if it did, there are many other civs that are more deserving to be in the game than the Hakka.
Fair enough.
Going back to the original point: Over half of the game's civs were European because the game was marketed primarily to European (and European-descended) players. That's what's meant when people say it's "Eurocentric".
>And in the cases of the Vikings and Mongols?
What about Vikings and Mongols?
The Mughal empire already exist in AOE2 and AOE3, they're called Hindustanis and Indians respectively. Their villagers and their soldiers speak Hindi. You can't make a Turkish civilisation based on North India and have everyone speak Hindi.
>No, I said Han.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_proper
You're applying a modern meaning to the term Chinese, but we're talking about that word in a medieval context. Why do we have a Mongol civ in AOE2? There are more Mongols in China than outside of China. Mongolia was a part of China for much of its history. What's the difference between Mongols and Manchus?
>The Vikings were largely Pre-HRE Germans who migrated north due to the Carolingian empire's conflict.
Are you ignoring the fact that Vikings are Northern Germanics whose languages fall outside of the German/Dutch dialect continuum?
>Going back to the original point
Maybe we just interpret the word eurocentric in a different way. But adding Japanese instead of Italians doesn't sound eurocentric to me at all.
>Over half of the game's civs were European because the game was marketed primarily to European
That doesn't lead to the conclusion that the game is eurocentric. A videogame about aliens can be marketed to Europeans without being eurocentric.
I'm gonna watch tv now.
>The Mughal empire already exist in AOE2 and AOE3, they're called Hindustanis and Indians respectively.
The former is a very recent addition.
>You can't make a Turkish civilisation based on North India and have everyone speak Hindi.
Yes you can. That fits perfectly. It's like a British civ where everyone speaks Hindi.
>You're applying a modern meaning to the term Chinese, but we're talking about that word in a medieval context.
And that's an exonym. The game operates primarily with ethnicities.
>Why do we have a Mongol civ in AOE2? There are more Mongols in China than outside of China. Mongolia was a part of China for much of its history. What's the difference between Mongols and Manchus?
Mongols sell.
>Are you ignoring the fact that Vikings are Northern Germanics whose languages fall outside of the German/Dutch dialect continuum?
Yes, because they're really just Germans.
>Maybe we just interpret the word eurocentric in a different way. But adding Japanese instead of Italians doesn't sound eurocentric to me at all.
Has the feeling of, "Black friend pass".
>That doesn't lead to the conclusion that the game is eurocentric.
The game is centered on Europe, with only 4 civs out of 13 being disconnected from it, and 7 of the remaining civs being European. That's Eurocentric.
>A videogame about aliens can be marketed to Europeans without being eurocentric.
Sure, but if you want to market a history game to Europeans, you make a large part of the game just European.
I don't even get why you care. "1999 European game about medieval history is Eurocentric" isn't really making headlines.
>The former is a very recent addition.
But it demonstrates my point.
>Yes you can. That fits perfectly. It's like a British civ where everyone speaks Hindi.
Neither of those would fit in AOE2. AOE2 is about an ethnic group building an empire for themselves.
>And that's an exonym.
So? Wether we use an exonym (Chinese) or an endonym (Han) it still means the same thing. There are many exonyms in AOE2, which is only normal because the game is in English.
>The game operates primarily with ethnicities.
Yes, that's exactly the point I have been arguing all along. The Chinese ethnicity is Han, and not Tibetan or Uyghur, and the Turkish ethnicity is Turkish, not Hindi.
>Mongols sell.
Yes, and Mongols are not Chinese, just like Tibetans and such. Is a Mongol from Inner Mongolia Chinese or Mongolian?
>Yes, because they're really just Germans.
No, they are not. Absolutely not.
>The game is centered on Europe, with only 4 civs out of 13 being disconnected from it, and 7 of the remaining civs being European. That's Eurocentric.
We can easily turn this logic around. The campaign that is specifically about the Crusades, Saladin, has you play as Saracens, the crusaders are the antagonists. And oh look, one of the European campaigns, Barbarosa, has two scenarios outside of Europe. We can easily count Franks, Teutons, Britons and Byzantines as 'connected to Asia'. Stop saying that Saracens and Turks count as eurocentrism because it's bullshit.
If you would make a game about Medieval history that was not eurocentric, Turks and Saracens/Arabs would be very very strong contenders for civs to include. There is no reason to assume they were 'only' added because they had contact with Europe, which is your interpretation based on absolutely nothing. Even if AOE2 were eurocentric, these are still civs that any reasonable designer would include on their own merit.
>I don't even get why you care
Because you completely ignore Arabic and Turkish history and their achievements.
>Neither of those would fit in AOE2. AOE2 is about an ethnic group building an empire for themselves.
Burmese, Malays, Franks, Vikings, Teutons, Berbers, Saracens, Magyars, Bulgarians... There are quite a few civs that just conquered a lot of territory and placed themselves at the top.
>So? Wether we use an exonym (Chinese) or an endonym (Han) it still means the same thing.
No, it doesn't. One is an ethnic group. The other is the name of a country.
>Yes, that's exactly the point I have been arguing all along. The Chinese ethnicity is Han, and not Tibetan or Uyghur, and the Turkish ethnicity is Turkish, not Hindi.
The predominant Chinese ethnicity is Han, but the Han aren't just one monocultural blob.
>No, they are not. Absolutely not.
They absolutely are. Danes have a throat infection, but they're just Germans at the end of the day.
>We can easily turn this logic around. The campaign that is specifically about the Crusades, Saladin, has you play as Saracens, the crusaders are the antagonists.
...Was that supposed to contradict me? Think about what you just said.
>And oh look, one of the European campaigns, Barbarosa, has two scenarios outside of Europe.
Both of which are about their attempt to put him in the Levant.
>We can easily count Franks, Teutons, Britons and Byzantines as 'connected to Asia'.
The difference is that the world itself is Asia-centric.
>Stop saying that Saracens and Turks count as eurocentrism because it's bullshit.
Why do you have a nice day in the foot, then go Full-Auto whenever someone points it out?
>If you would make a game about Medieval history that was not eurocentric, Turks and Saracens/Arabs would be very very strong contenders for civs to include.
Yeah, and their camapaigns wouldn't be about Europe.
>Because you completely ignore Arabic and Turkish history and their achievements.
What, like Arabs bringing Islam out across North Africa, Persia, and even Indonesia? Or the Persianized Turks conquering India? Get it together.
Nothing you just said is true, logical or relevant. I'm not gonna waste my time anymore. I have done my best to explain myself to you, but you seem to just not get it. I give up.
What the frick is wrong with you? Stay off the internet for a while.
>fell for the archer meme on Arabia AGAIN
>opponent is magyars
>puts castles everywhere so I can't attack him
>snipes my trebs when I'm not looking
>overwhelms me with full trash
>destroys my economy with raids before I could wall the map
>switches to Paladins in the end just to flex on me
Explain this thing right now
>It's a raider unit
Why does it keep missing, and why is it so expensive?
>It's an anti-archer unit. It's just fragile.
Why does it take so much damage from archers?
>It's like an onager, but faster
But that's not how its damage works in practice. You just get mowed down and trade poorly because you can't focus a target.
>You're meant to use it against spearmen in melee
Why would I make a costly cavalry unit that specializes in beating spears in melee when it takes full bonus damage and requires a ton of micro to keep alive?
>No, it's a defensive tool against knights
There is no world where you actually made enough of these to defend against knights.
>Okay, but if you kite...
Why would my opponent chase a unit that does no damage when he can 4-shot my vills instead?
>It's really good against camels!
Why would I make an anti-anti-cavalry cavalryman who takes full damage from anti-cav? Don't we already have the Mameluke?
>It's a Burmese Steppe Lancer for you to use with your infantry!
When the frick have my infantrymen needed the help?
All of this could immediately be untangled if Burmese had Thumb Ring. Those already do well against halbs, archers, and camels, with the right setup. What the frick is this unit?
BTW, this thing falls off against Paladins, even when FU, so frick anyone recommending this against those civs.
It used to be the most broken unit in the game and then got thoroughly nerfed to shit. 25 of these could 2-3 shot a TC. They just never rebuffed it accordingly and they're afraid to buff them again because of past history. Also why they won't touch Conqs.
...But that was due to a tech they removed with the rework, and they reworked the unit following that.
goths
https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/Nili's_Apartment_Cup/4
NAC4 has started
Current series is Yo vs. Nicov
Streams:
https://www.twitch.tv/membtv
https://www.twitch.tv/nili_aoe
Frick off Nili
I'm better than you.
You better
>barely better thank T90
ooff
Are Mayans and Aztecs European civs now?
Are you moronic?
Lol twitch chat is a riot
Son of a b***h are you kidding me? Vinchester not saying anything is worst
Can't believe no one mentioned their March 2023 list yet. Three gods agree...
Will Hindustani ever be stopped?
liereyy makes me think of mirrored images
Casting Couch
Sponsored by Redbull
I love the autist
https://discord.gg/Vhqckq2uPn
Hera CLEARLY lied about not liking empanadas
Empanadas are the greatest thing our lord has created and anybody that dislikes them it's a bloody liar
pastel>>>>>>>
What the frick is a 'pastel', it means cake, do you eat a literal cake for fast food?
Looks like shit. Pasties are much better.
Well, I eat with my mouth, not with my eyes.
Looks alright but empanadas are still better
>sneed oils are better
3 days until we cross the Rubicon
I didn't follow this conversation at all. I hope its over now.
>Everyone talking about the next big content patch or Return of Rome DLC
Have we heard anything about the AoM remake?
We've heard about neither.
I'm patient enough to wait for Mythology, but the lack of info about Return of Rome is absolutely moronic.
Has Villese always looked like this? Looks like he has lipstick + an earring here, so I was worried that he's a she now.
he always looked like that mate, tbh compared with most gamers he looks not that awful
What the frick is a Dash and why is he commentating for Nili
Dash is a caster for LOL I think, his commentary is very nice tbf. I didn't watch NAC so I don't know how he pairs with Silly
Dash is Ornlu's dog.
When the hell are we gonna get some Return to Rome info?
Ides of March
We have no proof to suggest this. Will goddamn AOE2 players please stop announcing their baseless assumptions as fact?
2 more days until we reach the Rubicon
Don't give me hope
https://www.aoezone.net/threads/hot-take-third-world-people-tends-to-lame-more.185814/
Kek. Aoezone is top tier.
>define what you mean by third world
>"3rd world" is a concept without a destinct meaning. No idea what it actually describes 11
Is aoezone reddit? Jesus frick.
Nah it's just 1st-worlders not knowing how good they actually have it.
>How welcoming is the AoE 2 community to new players?
Too welcoming.
Gotta keep the game alive. Sadly, at the cost of having new civs.
What does adding new civs have to do with welcoming new players?
Having new players makes the studio release more DLCs with broken stupid literally who civs
They release DLCs to bring in new players
>But they're OP
I can't think of a single game where new content gets released and isn't either exceptionally fricking overpowered or not worth using shit. For a game that for the most part is retaining a playerbase that has been playing since release, I think going with OP is better than UP.
DE exist solely because of T90 which at the same time brought more players.
Absolute bullshit. There are tons of civs and campaigns for new players to enjoy, they don't need DLCs. Long time players are the ones who buy DLCs.
>broken
Like Bengalis and Dravidians?
>literally who civs
Like Bengalis and Dravidians?
>Bengalis
>Literally who
(You)
If you've never heard of Bengalis then you're an idiot.
Only heard about your mom haha libs owned lmao rekt
Are you seriously implying that being smart is a bad thing and makes you a lib?
Clearly not that smart. Specially considering you called yourself smart.
>you have heard of Bengalis before, that means you must be a dumb liberal
If only my IQ were as high as yours.
Teutonic Knights will never be good or historically accurate.
Agreed. That's what I was saying. Didn't realize you were being sarcastic.
>third-world-people-tends-to-lame-more
I agree I am quite the toxic player and I don't lame only because I don't want to learn it even when I main viets
How welcoming is the AoE 2 community to new players? I am a trans woman. I know that Samantha, Spirit of the Law's top donor, is also a trans woman.
I knew it! No way a real woman would be interested enough in videogames to become a patreon!
Trans rights
Crusader States when?
yep, 1400 again
very nice
How does Daut do it? I don't mean win tournaments, since he doesn't do that (special tournaments made for the elderly do not count), but honestly I have big respect for a guy in his 40s still being able to compete with the youngsters. He even beats Hera when Hera misplays.
He's "only" 37. Also he did win Wololo 3, which was his most recent S tier win.
Is this game still dead when it comes to multiplayer?
When i try to play quick match or ranked 2vs2 i have to wait 10min+ to find any other human beings.
Nobody uses quick match. Are you only queueing for 2v2s? What country are you from? I can queue for a 1v1, 3v3, and 4v4 and find a match within a few minutes usually.
>Nobody uses quick match
so rankeds only?
>Are you only queueing for 2v2s?
yeah.
>What country are you from?
poland does it matter? is this game region-locked or something?
> I can queue for a 1v1, 3v3, and 4v4 and find a match within a few minutes usually.
Jesus christ, even hyper dead rts like SC2 can find me a game in under 30sec.
AoE2 DE is not dead you fricking idiot, it just happens that people dont really play anything outside 1vs1 or 4vs4, 2vs2 and 3vs3 are very rare compared to the 2 former ones
>>Are you only queueing for 2v2s?
>yeah.
2v2s aren't very popular. So that might be the issue. Try adding 3v3s and 4v4s in. Do 1v1s too
>poland does it matter? is this game region-locked or something?
It's not region locked, Poland has a decent player base anyway but it might take longer depending on when you queue because it'll keep expanding the search. It's 3AM in Poland so I imagine it'd take awhile to find a match, especially for AoE2. This is SA/US time. AoE2 regularly has 12-15k on at pretty much every point during the day and peaks at over 20k normally.
will try to add 3vs3 and 4vs4 at more human hours then.
I'm not mentally prepared for 1vs1 yet
>When i try to play quick match
Nobody uses quick match
>ranked 2vs2
You will only get fast queue times if you have a teammate in your party to play with, for NOBODY goes solo in 2vs2 queue, either go 1vs1 or 4vs4, arabia is the fastest map you can get
Noob here, I got my ass completely fricking heemed by like 30 Konniks. What is a good counter. I ended up on Arena, so I had a hard time applying early pressure.
I was Vikings
>What is a good counter.
Don't let your opponent get 30 Konniks.
I might just ban arena in the map list, but I felt like it was pretty hard for me to do on arena
>Don't let your opponent do X
This is shitty advice because it's not always within your power to do so. Besides, it doesn't answer the original question. People really have to stop giving this type of advice.
Here's some better advice:
git gud
He's asking simple advice on Ganker. It's pretty safe to assume he's very low elo. Also, he mentioned Arena.
Well I literally said "Noob here" I think champions would have been a good idea like that other anon said, champions with pikes, im still learning the ropes
pikes get pummeled by infantry konniks, if you want to use pikemen then you will have to use arbalests
It would have just been having champs clean up after they get knocked off. Arbalests probably would have been more cost effective.
Viking arbalest are shit, Viking champions should be trading good, each konnik has the same cost as 2 champs, and champs are more gold efficient
Yeah that is what I was thinking after thinking about the game itself. I thought lack of thumb ring would have made them not worth it. I went monks too before I realized "wait a minute these viking monks are shit" lol. I still have a lot to learn
they’re missing a single upgrade but if you get them 5 minutes before your opponent hits imp (which, as vikings, you should) they still slaughter everything
And you have arbalest against stone walls, your opponent should have a good boom going and when they hit imp they have onager which flattens all
that’s why it’s an arb/ram push baka
I don't get people who throw a massive hissy fit over thumb ring when arbalests are already 90% accurate without it
Rate of fire is huge, if Britons got it they would be the top of s tier
Arbalests vs Bulgarian is risky however, konniks can simply ignore your pikes and jump your archers, or he can simply hussar spam you to death, or make siege onagers
While zerks do well vs konniks, zerks lose to bulgarian 2handers cost effectively, without mentioning bulgarian HCAs or siege
Feels like if you cant brute force your way out against a bulgarian you kinda lose
Forgot to mention that viking champions also lose against bulg 2handers, so you have to have arbalests or heavy scorpions
Yes champions beat konniks but lose to bargains swordsmen, but if he is opening konnik he won't have full upgrades on the two hander, just scout your opponent, know what your up against, take a big fight then tech switch so you have a meatshield and ranged combo.
>Well I literally said "Noob here"
you'er not gonna get much usefull advice anywhere online from people in high elo echo chambers
i think against konniks you should mix units. maybe check out one of spirit of the law's counter videos
Black person, if you let your opponent boom uncontested into 30 elite castle units you fricked so many things along the way. You can't counter 45 minutes of shitty decisions.
The 30 castle units aren't the problem, they can be countered, against Bulgarians you need to know if it's a cav or infantry opening, so you know whether to go infantry or archers
What
said, however as vikings, Berserks are the soft counter to konniks, alternatively, champions work
The big deal is actually getting chieftains, which allows your infantry to shred cavalry konniks, infantry konniks are pushovers so they are not an issue, you just need to counter the mounted ones
Yeah I had something like that going on, but my economy probably wasnt as good as his. I only had two castles for berserks but the second one came up late and I saw he had at least 3 kreposts, and a castle
Berserks is too slow of a transition, champs do well enough
Vikings on arena is shit, however champions or elite berserks with chieftains should do well. I would go champions as you won't have enough castles, he could try to switch into bargains two handers which you could answer with arbalest
arbalesters should have killed them. the vikings have one outdated trick on arena, which is boom into arb/ram, but here it would have actually worked.
I refuse to play historically inaccurate civilizations. How big is the pool of civilizations I can play?
0
there are no historically accurate civ in the game, it's not a game about historical accuracy
The absolute hubris of this failed history class pig. Name 1 thing wrong with Britons or Franks.
I'll bite.
>Longbows having the same range as a cannon and almost twice as much as a gun.
Franks are basically an amalgamation of the frankish kingdom of the early medieval period (merovingians and carolingians dynasties) with units like the throwing axeman, and the crusaders states with their emphasis on heavy cavalry
The crusaders were called franks by inhabitants of the region even though they came from all corners of Europe
The briton longbows were also not as good as arbalests and used only for a brief period of time, it was nowhere near as efficient as the game makes it out to be
Oh no bros, I bit off more than I could chew... this girl clearly studied history as her minor in college!
B-But I still have the Saracens. Hah!
Good, go leave then
Destroyed
how the frick do I do combat, just started, but I have absolutely no FRICKING clue how to deal with any pressure during any age or on the opposite side of things trying to attack a single well defended castle.
My only fricking strategy so far is playing against an AI under hard and attacking them before they amass an army that demolish my attack force (which usually just consists of a single spammed unit type I hyper invested in)
Too vague, too many answers. Be more specific.
Also, training against the AI is a bad idea, except for training build orders. The game's AI operates very different from a human.
He didn't say he plays online at all.
well, if you're going against the AI just palisade wall his base and then start building towers
alternatively go feudal and make a frickton of skirmishers
>how the frick do I do combat
you mean micromange military units?
ranged units like archers you should stutter step (attack, move during reload period, repeat), backwards against melee units, sideways against ranged units
ranged units should also focus fire in groups smaller than ~40 ie: you rightclick each enemy one at a time so each archer shoots the same target, for groups larger than ~40 just let them shoot whatever
large armies that include melee units you can just attackmove/patrol into the enemy
in very small melee fights you can focus fire with your melee units
mangonels you can use attack ground and predict where the enemy formation is moving
monk micro you could probably find a video tutorial for. They're very formidable defensive units
large groups containing vulnerable units like archers/siege/monks are vulnerable to pincer attacks
use split formation to dodge impending mangonel shots
units positioned on high ground or up a cliff do 25% more damage and take 25% less damage to units on lower ground, this is true for anything in the game from boars to castles
use scatter formation against armies with lots of splash damage, or better: flank them
you can move battering rams close to large groups of enemy archers to soak up fire
ctrl+shift+space to select all military production buildings to place all their rally points in the same place
ctrl+, to select all idle military units
I just lost to konniks and 2h swordsmen too at 1300, I feel like such a moron lol
I invented boar luring
I invented fast castle
I invented calling everyone a Black person.
Black person.
I hate Nili so much
Same. Literally the unfunniest and cringiest individual in the AoE2 community. I don't even know how he gets his money considering his videos get like 50-200 views. He knows nothing of value about the game, his casting is shit, his accent is shit and his attempts at humor are peak desperation.
Also sensitive to any comment that *might* be interpreted as a criticism towards him. Always a treat to check his comment sections.
everyone hates nili besides some pros, but sadly he is hired as tournament manager by Microsoft, which means hes responsible of making the calendar for Age of Empires events, so the main events of different tournaments are scheduled properly
You could crush his entire torso with one hand
Post hand
Why? He's just german. He's not a bad dude, just has that characteristic quasi aspergers personality and makes some silly cute bad jokes from time to time. He's good at organizing the tournaments and getting sponsorships. From what I know he was a teacher before getting into AoE2 full time and is older than the rest of the pro scene so you can't expect him to have the same juvenile personality as other players. I think some of you give him too much shit
Jordan is a lovely boy and he is also german. Frick you Nilli
>verification not required
Jordan is bavarian so it doesn't count
Any good videos for learning combat?
I feel like my mind shuts down the minute it gets into a fight. my defense gets completely overwhelmed, or my offense gets completely countered
Have you done the Art of War campaign?
just play Castle Blood Arena and copy the manoeuvres of whoever has the highest score
how does Hera get fatter in Argentina
first time living away from his parents, I think. probably isn’t used to cooking for himself and is eating out a lot
inflation in Argentina is so high, with 10USD you can literally buy the entire meat section at the supermarket lol
Thought the fact that he still lives in a shithole would offset that but jesus christ
What you mean? Argentina is not THAT bad
You're on Ganker. Are you surprised to encounter idiots?
You're right, my fault then
I'm talking from my own experience which by all accounts should be easy-mode Argentina.
I'm Argentinian and it's not as bad as you idiots make it sound
For the record, it is bad for Argentinians themselves, but inflation skyrocketed so hard anybody with a single dollar with live a luxurious life.
>I'm Argentinian and it's not as bad as you idiots make it sound
So it's even worse? Shit's bad here too but as bad as it is inflation here doesn't make everyone with a dollar a multimillionaire.
>So it's even worse?
Compared to what?
>Shit's bad here too
Where?
>doesn't make everyone with a dollar a multimillionaire.
Granted not a multimillionari but you will still live a calm economical life, for the price of dollar here is just massive, check how a dollar costs in argentinian pesos
it's obviously an american
Technically not wrong.
>Compared to what?
To what I expected.
>Where?
Shitzil.
>Granted not a multimillionari but you will still live a calm economical life
Sure but better than with the same income in a country like Canada?
I don't know anything about Hera, but his previous savings will obviously go a lot further in Argentina than in Canada.
Even if you have a lot of money if you live in a country where supermarket shelves are empty you still won't be able to buy what you want.
More precisely, how much a dollar is worth compared to a peso doesn't directly translate to how easier it is to live with dollars in Argentina because the whole country is a shithole and even if you're much better off than most people the most rational choice would be not living here.
Granted, I don't live in Argentina nor in Canada, but at least here people would choose to simply leave rather than putting up with all the other shit in exchange for a higher purchasing power.
I dont know Im not canadian nor live there
I think he is talking about le insecurity. Bet he's a o n i o n s boy moron that went to BsAs as a tourist, got lost and got raped by a bunch of villeros.
>moving from Canada to Argentina
Is he a moron?
Unlike in northamerica, we eat good, loads of (actual) good beef, plus you can buy a lot of shit with dollars, inflation is skyrocketing
Meat doesn't make you fat.
True but one can easily get lost in the asados down here
Most likely, insecurity is still an issuem however if you hang around Microcentro or more fancy places like Recolate you should be fine regardless
I think going to BA for tourism is a waste anyways, Argentina is beautiful, no point going to that Black person-israelite infested shithole. One of these days I am going to go live like a caveman in the patagonia
Based, I also want to escape this infernal heat too
The way all the people that go to BA talk about it makes me think it's basically a hispanophonic Rio without beaches. Truly dreadful.
>it's basically a hispanophonic Rio without beaches
Explain
Cool historical city but dirty, expensive and full of rude people trying to take advantage of you and crime.
That's different that any big city. Big thok
Here in the south is not that bad.
Doesnt sound that different from other big cities tbh
Where my rome dlc at
News soon trust the plan.
Ides of March bros...
Gotta mourn the Caesar. Two more weeks
It's ok we still have time they're based in the west coast.
I hope they don't announce shit today. People in the AOE2 community constantly shout their baseless assumptions around as facts.
It's over
>just remembered that hera said he was going to fast during NAC
He needs to で御座います
homie needs to fast a lot longer than that.
Me omw to beat up some minorities
https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/large-infrastructure-update-wednesday-march-22-i-ii-iii-de-and-iv/226832
This....is the not the news we expected.
>you won't stand a chance now... against my castle age frank knights! that's right, 120 hp! behold
oh shit, /vst/, what do you do in this situation??
I maek pikemen.
I turks and hav no pikemen so I maek monks
Camels, pikes, monks, knights of my own. Lotta options.
As I am also a gentleman we can both agree to not make pikemen, I raise you 10+6 knights
what do you mean? 120 hp knights! nobody has that besides the franks!
>Picks Gurjaras
>Creates camel army
Nuthin' personal
Knights are not scary, not even Frankish ones.
Briton crossbows however...
Well done, Monseigneur Chevalier, well done...
HOWEVER
This revolutionary new technology I have well beyond you.
192 hp paladins
Castle Age tech with a cost of 600 and research time of 35 seconds
Still weaker than Teuton and Lithuanian paladins, and they get shitstomped by Saracen, Hindu and Gurgle camels. Franks are an infantry/siege civ, deal with it.
Bu-but you have to spend resources in a castle! Oh no!
I might actually be moronic, I can't reach 1300 after hundreds of games and I am literally gonna kill my self
>180 hours in
>still no clue how to progress through a game
>getting steamrolled by hard+ AI and randoms
Rome news just dropped.
According to this alleged datamining, the Alaric and Attila campaign are getting some changes.
>we need an infantry buff
>make an infantry unit that gives an infantry buff
mind = blown
Centurions are cavalry in AoE2, though.
Ah right, guess I'm going off AoE I too hard.
This would imply at least one civ is going to be added to the actual AoE2 game. Which will be weird, since it'll probably play totally different from every other civ.
If the bulk of content is still cordoned off in a secondary game mode, they could just retrofit a civ or so to give the base game a bone.
>Rome news just dropped.
So, what do we know?
What centurions do and some changes to the campaigns.
Oh yeah, I remember that map, it's the first mission of Alaric, it's cool they're given the campaigns of Attila and Alaric and revisit with a possible minor/major revamp too.
I hope we get trainable legionnaires and centurions instead of using triggers in the scenario editor to make them trainable.
Lifetime Western Roman Empire main here
AMA
>You will know know the warmth of Light Cavalry
How are you still alive?