NOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, I WAS USING IT FOR THE STATS IT HAS AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE CRUTCH HITBOX DOUBLE THE SIZE OF STOCK, WHO CARES? IT'S JUST FEW PIXELERINOS
it's still unironically better, having the short fuse time means people get hit by rollers much more often, the 30% less explosion size comes into play like, what, one in 100 cases?
The best payoffs are the ones that take the longest. do you know how many "demoman mains stopped playing demoman yesterday after the weapon was fixed ?
Never fricking anything is intentional at valve lol.
This shit is what makes it so funny. That other moron could've been enjoying using that weapon for 8 years but instead acts as if he somehow "won". 8 years is a fricking lifetime especially in a game.
Its like not playing as SL/SL Warlock back in TBC when it was at its strongest because "I know itll be nerfed eventually". Just stupid logic.
Someone people don't derive enjoyment from using shit they know is busted. They have some self-respect.
In any case it wasn't even known to have had a bigger hitbox for most of the 8 years. Instead we got treated to this display of demo players going "I'm getting hits with this thing more often because the lack of roll makes it more accurate!". Only for that it blow up in their faces when the real reason for it getting hits more often became known.
>Wow, this thing feels like ass to fight against >I'd rather play games to have fun than eat shit, so i'm not going to use it >Hopefully other people will do the same and we can all enjoy a good time
It's literally "do unto others"
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Damn this gun is OP as frick >If I dont use it, there will be at least one other that does and doesnt respect this dumb idea of "do unto others" like I will, so why not use it
Its called not being a moron. Same reason why people ran OMA loadouts in MW2.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Black folk exist >Therefore i should lynch everyone i meet to avoid being a victim of Black person behaviour
That's you anon, the Black person is you. You can either prolong the cycle of Black personing or remove yourself from it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Youre a moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If I dont use it, there will be at least one other that does and doesnt respect this dumb idea of "do unto others" like I will, so why not use it
Because until you actually see that other homosexual in a game, the only one that will be using it is you?
Idgaf about honor Igaf about having shitty atrophied noodle legs because I've relied on a fricking jetpack to get me to the toilet
2 years ago
Anonymous
Your analogy only works if somehow your skill would suffer as a direct result of using a strong weapon. Protip: it wont. So your analogy doesnt fit and even if it did, you could literally work on your muscles (or skill) and get them up to par after losing said jetpack, so theres literally no downside all you did was cuck yourself out of using a cool jetpack for 8 years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't even play demo homosexual stop replying to me I don't care about all the inspirational phrases you use to feel okay about your crutches
>charge sticks for some reason now, same time eureka effect always wants to pull up teleport menu unprompted >absolutely no fricking idea on how to fix it >could probably just redo my whole config but years of changes and personal accomodations would be too much for me to care recreating
tfw begrudgingly forced to be stock chad
no adderall here, only ~2% "speed", so stims are out of the question, gaming on psychedelics feels waste and opiates make me too sleepy/nod.
crossfading is definitely the best way to enjoy tf2, apart from stims, but stims make mostly everything the best.
There's literally less bots than before. It might not have been a thing they were actually aiming for, but it's one of the things that got fixed by an update.
you first, moron, you gays always say the bot problem is over, and when I check the state of the game it's a constant struggle to get morons to vote them out, often causing ragequits because of a round won thanks to the 3+ aimbots and such
A large majority of time time bots I've seen join matches they're nearly immediately voted out. The main issue is getting hackers with multi-shot/crit hacks voted out or groups of 4-6 going around votekicking casual servers empty.
Since the update to allow both teams to votekick simultaneously, I haven't had a single match where bots got above 1-2 per team, and were always kicked within a minute.
A large majority of time time bots I've seen join matches they're nearly immediately voted out. The main issue is getting hackers with multi-shot/crit hacks voted out or groups of 4-6 going around votekicking casual servers empty.
>The main issue is getting hackers with multi-shot/crit hacks voted out or groups of 4-6 going around votekicking casual servers empty.
This is still a problem, and often the only solution is the requeue. However, since they are real people, they are much more limited than the huge botnets swarming casual before.
I'm not saying everything is 100% perfect, but the improvement from that one patch a few weeks ago was such a massive improvement that it feels like it's only a matter of time before more fixes come in. It only took a month for the hashtag to make finding a game full of real players 10x easier.
the game is still fricking unplayble between 11pm-10am
so who fricking cares if they got "kneecapped" they need to be fricking GONE. you stupid Stockholm syndrome homosexual.
It's a very mild side grade now. I see it being more useful in close quarters or for hybrid knight. Stock has more range and more versatility with rollers.
>revert caber >revert Darwin's back to health or bullet resistance, don't give a frick which
Sniper mains get fricked, every nerf revolving around them (see also Amby) is lame as frick.
>The Ambassador nerf made me stop playing Spy entirely
Good. It's moronic that a class that can turn invisible can do 125 six times in a row at any range.
There's an old Star_ video about specifically why it's moronic. You can frick an entire team up by just hitting a Heavy once and then bailing. Yeah, you don't get the kill, but you completely leech their confidence in their current plan at NO COST to yourself.
Even Snipers have to charge their gun for a second, and slow their movement, and can't turn invisible.
Black person why you are crying, spy got a movespeed buff and they have never addressed the issue that all dead ringer users never even pretend to feign death with is, 100% of its users just use it as a free shield that makes killing spy a hassle ten times as worse compared to catching one using the other watches
no, you stupid homosexual. you should be hitting directs anyway you goddamn shitter. you do not need to be rewarded for not missing. you already get that with the stickybomb launcher.
Loch n Load should get a rework that makes it more like Scout's double-barrells, fast fire rate and fast reload but only two shots. No extra damage on players, you gotta hit both, and since shot velocity is faster too it's easier to hit both.
I wonder how much of a price drop these will get, the amby's was brutal after it's nerf.
Feels damn good to own an expensive stock and not this crutch garbage.
they aren't going to de-nerf the sandman or ambassador, anon, especially not after all the compgay whining it took to get both neutered. the iron bomber shit wasn't even really a nerf, it's really a bug fix that makes the gun work as intended.
Sandman dont work so good these days, it doesnt do anything
Valve actually fixing Iron Bomber hitboxes means they actually seem to be willing to balance again
>Valve actually fixing Iron Bomber hitboxes means they actually seem to be willing to balance again
Not really. The idea that a bug fix should automatically be considered a balance change just because it happens to impact balance was moronic.
You're basically saying that if an outright exploit that could only be used with a certain class was found. You wouldn't be able to fix it as it would technically be a nerf to that class.. There's a very clear difference between fixing shit that was unintentional and fixing shit that was.
Chokepointfest maps like dustbowl 2fort and junction are shit because any demoman can get kills with the easy cramped spaces playing well designed open maps like granary, coldfront, badlands and excelling at it is what separates the bad demoman with the good ones
I never even used it because I have a gorillian kills on my strange stock. What's the point of its intended usage? Just being able to kinda sticky jump as hybrid knight?
Better and more consistent indirect shots at the cost of less splash. Now its just an inconspicuous side grade instead of massive objective upgrade due to a fricking huge projectile size making it much easier to hit.
it wasn't back before they intentionally ruined heavy. snipers were literally never a problem, ever, because heavy is about knowing how when and where to move. also before they ruined heavy you could easily snipe snipers with your minigun.
increased spread at range and changed minigun spin up while jumping behavior
the minigun spinup change is probably the #1 most anti-fun change in online gaming history, which I have been there for 100% of
>hey you can execute a skillful maneuver to make this class viable >better remove that!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>changed minigun spin up while jumping behavior
I used to play Heavy every now and then and I totally forgot why I completely stopped playing him for literal years, now I remember why.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah they just straight up murdered him out of the game. I quit TF2 that day and have never played a single game again.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I haven't really played heavy in years, what did they do to the jump spin? Was it something before 2012?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not necessarily the spin jump, but when you first rev you deal half damage, and it takes a second to ramp up to full.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Blame the tomislav. Valve would probably just have brought the spin-time back up if they hadn't put tomislav in the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
As a result of the spin up damage nerf it made Heavy far less capable of being played super aggressively by going balls deep right into enemy lines so he feels far more sluggish to play now. The spin up nerf fricked the spin jump because you don't deal full damage once you pull it off like you could prior like
Not necessarily the spin jump, but when you first rev you deal half damage, and it takes a second to ramp up to full.
stated, so to prevent getting fricked you have to instead play it much slower by staying revved constantly while turning corners. This also leads to him being a sitting duck most of the time now. He's just flat out not fun to play anymore, at least to someone who enjoyed playing Heavy pre spin nerf.
2 years ago
Anonymous
right, and this is exactly how i played, ultra hyper aggressive. nobody could deal with it in the history of tf2
thanks for nerfing me, personally. appreciate it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>so to prevent getting fricked
You still have highest health pool in the game and doing half of what is still an incredibly high close range dps. What seems more likely is the target actually having a chance to escape. Bumping into a heavy round a corner being a death sentence wasn't fair or fun.
right, and this is exactly how i played, ultra hyper aggressive. nobody could deal with it in the history of tf2
thanks for nerfing me, personally. appreciate it
>nobody could deal with it in the history of tf2
Basically a good change then.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Basically a good change then.
uhh no i was competitive quake 1-3 and early cs player,i should be better than everyone
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then boy do I have a class for you!
2 years ago
Anonymous
that class is the exact opposite of the skills i have. real fps players moved around. moving was part of the skill
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then boy do I have a class for you!
2 years ago
Anonymous
dies too quickly
the reality of it is like everything else they have ever touched valve eventually ruined tf2
2 years ago
Anonymous
But I thought you were better than everyone else?
2 years ago
Anonymous
i am, doesnt mean i have to be forced off the class i want to play
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then why are you dying quickly as scout?
2 years ago
Anonymous
this poster only thinks about Black person dick
2 years ago
Anonymous
he who smelt it, felt it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah it's because nobody who is straight uses the term real players unironically
2 years ago
Anonymous
Soldier is clearly the class you're looking for. I don't know what that other guy thought he was doing suggesting sniper.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't know
Kids now a days are like 100 times better at video games than the mid 90s. The talent pool is much larger resulting in a higher grade of player.
Cope more ya old frick
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Kids now a days are like 100 times better at video games than the mid 90s.
No. No they are not
2 years ago
Anonymous
the kids that have been playing since the 90's and 00's are better, not modern kids
Funny, you only see a handful of thirty year olds on any competive circuit for any game.
Its almost like players who have a larger pool of players to play against while they are developing skills facilitates a better class of player.
INSANITY I TELL YOU
2 years ago
Anonymous
Please, all those “competitive” kids are fodder for the 30 year olds
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the kids who play my backwater game suck!
People who are good at videogames are going to play relevant video games, because they can make money doing that. Real money, not like the 20 bucks the tf2 super duper world wide championship pays out.
What game bridges the gap between what was popular in the '90s and the current era? Smash and fighting games are the only two, and you see plenty of career vets in those.
Yes, those people with 30 years of experience playing a genre that is poverty are only slightly ahead of 15-20 year olds with not even a 6th of there time playing fighting games. And that is just people playing the games because they LIKE THEM. Fgc is poverty and real talent plays games that pay. If the fgc suddenly saw a 1000% increase in payouts across the board the landscape would change within a year or two and no former top players would still be around.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>because they can make money doing that.
This is a deliberate lie to keep shitters like you in check.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you are so good, why don't you play professionally?
Wait, you can't because the second you play a game that pays somthing you could live on you get blown the frick up by teenagers.
Just keep lying to yourself, you are not good at video games.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What game bridges the gap between what was popular in the '90s and the current era? Smash and fighting games are the only two, and you see plenty of career vets in those.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the kids that have been playing since the 90's and 00's are better, not modern kids
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Bumping into a heavy round a corner being a death sentence wasn't fair or fun.
I agree, but the way they went about counteracting this was horrible. That single rampup nerf massively changed the way Heavy plays and ever since then he just feels like a slog to play, at least in my opinion. Even though spin jumping was busted I had a ton more fun being able to play super aggressively as Heavy instead of playing as a huge plodding target. Oh well.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>hop spin >pyro turns the corner >minigun lays bullets into the pyro >pyro M1's >heavy dies >pyro runs off at 12 health
2 years ago
Anonymous
this played out the opposite way 100% of every time. heavy was in fact one of pyro's worst counters through the entire relevant era of tf2.
doesn't mean anything that the average person can't aim. pyro is hopeless against heavy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
into a heavy round a corner being a death sentence wasn't fair or fun.
>so to prevent getting fricked
You still have highest health pool in the game and doing half of what is still an incredibly high close range dps. What seems more likely is the target actually having a chance to escape. Bumping into a heavy round a corner being a death sentence wasn't fair or fun.
[...] >nobody could deal with it in the history of tf2
Basically a good change then.
you're supposed to look before you commit to going around corners
imagine it being the game's fault that you are tin level at a casual game
>it's not fair!
woulda been hilarious watching you play q3
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you're supposed to look before you commit to going around corners
Unless you're suggesting abusing the high-five taunt, I don't see how you're supposed to know what is round a corner without walking round it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
did you know you can fricking walk back
>just look before you commit bro >heavy spin jumps around the corner and deletes you instantly before you have a chance to escape or fight back
it was fun if you were the heavy but it was always shit if you were on the receiving end
then play heavy
the solution was not completely ruining heavy which was ALREADY WEAK. I had to do high skill manuevers to get by at a BASIC LEVEL and youre lal "aiwww it was anti fun :~~*" *uses demoman*
i know you fricking gays complaining are demo mains lol i know it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>did you know you can fricking walk back
Yes... that's why the minigun got nerfed, so escape as an option, idiot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
it got nerfed because people are piss babies and cried "Wannnh no counterplay" counterplay is be better and kill me so i'm not there
suck a fat dick defending nerfing the highest skill ceiling class when fricking demoman exists through the entirety of tf2 im sure its complete skilless garbage today as it was back then
2 years ago
Anonymous
>highest skill ceiling class
sniper?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>high skill maneuvers >literally all you're doing is jumping around a corner while holding m2 at the same time for a free kill
you must be seriously brain damaged, makes sense you were a heavy main
2 years ago
Anonymous
wow it's really funny how few people could do it well, since it's so simple!
since it's so simple and unbeatable I will assume heavy wa shistorically the most popular class, not one of the 3 least popular
lmao actual zoomers upholding fricking nerfs in fps games because they got stepped on. go back to fortnite you dont even deserve shambling zombie ruined tf2
2 years ago
Anonymous
>considers jumping around a corner while holding m2 a high skill maneuver >also considers heavy the highest skill ceiling class in the game
alright you're either a drooling moron or just trolling at this point
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it's not a high skill manuever >but i couldn't do it and I also couldn't deal with it
i guess that shows where your skill level lies. not good enough to get to back lines as spy, huh?
2 years ago
Anonymous
alright yeah you're trolling at this point, no way you're this moronic. i don't even know why i bothered responding
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's painfully obvious this is bait, but the reason heavy is one of the least played classes is because you're dependant on having someone play medic, who is even less popular class. You could try running heavy without one but being a class that fights by tanking instead of dodging that lack of a heal input will make your limit how much you can do each time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>heavy players consider jumping to be a "high skill manuever"
Explains a lot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>just look before you commit bro >heavy spin jumps around the corner and deletes you instantly before you have a chance to escape or fight back
it was fun if you were the heavy but it was always shit if you were on the receiving end
2 years ago
Anonymous
Man you would have hated day 1 heavy weapons guy when he instead dealt 0 fricking damage because of how slow spinning up was.
Have my ideal Heavy adjustments that'll never happen >remove all scaling damage/spread bullshit on the minigun >slow spinup to between 119th update and launch day speed >both spinup and spindown can be cancelled into any other action, no questions asked >provide heavy 1 perfectly accurate bullet per ammo spent, adjust damage and fire rate to compensate so DPS is identical
Better damage at range if you can track, better ability to bail out of committing to the minigun, not needing to worry about scaling damage shit outside of falloff/rampup
2 years ago
Anonymous
Honestly the heavy they had in TF2C seems ideal. Basically launch heavy but with spread tightened to live version and the freedom to switch weapons mid-spin. No serious attempts to shoehorn him into competitive breaking him at pub-level. No GRU and no Tomislav, just classic sandvich
2 years ago
Anonymous
You have a video explaining this? Now is probably the time to bring it up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>jumping before spinning up >a skillful manoeuvre
This is literally the first time I've heard of this though. Or the increased spread at range. Normally people b***h about that damage penalty given when initially spinning up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I didn’t realize Pyro and Heavy were nearly on the same level of being gutted, damn.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's spy and pyro.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Spy is still viable, he hasn’t had core mechanics nerfs like Pyro and apparently heavy, just weapon nerfs which everyone has has besides soldier, sniper, and medic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Spawn wallhacks fricked him a fair bit. Despite the complaints in this thread heavy remains a viable pick whenever rollout isn't an issue. Pyro and Spy on the other hand get consistently placed in the lowest tier for effectiveness.
2 years ago
Anonymous
idk I never really struggle to get kills with spy even with a good enemy team but if you are on the losing side then Heavy is nearly unplayable unless enemies have no snipers and spies. Pyro I’m okay at even with the core mechanic nerfs but that’s because I’ve played him way more than others. Hitting flares is really hard now constantly since they fricked with airblast and since afterburn has variable duration with flamethrowers valve basically made it so the only real way to play consistently as pyro is to flare spam to ensure you get max duration. With spy you can still be consistent and facestabs are still possible. They even gave him a small movement buff a couple years ago too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you judging heavy by playing him without a medic? Because that's basically the same as judging sniper by playing him at close range.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Snipers can still click heads right in front of him
2 years ago
Anonymous
Regardless, someone saying sniper sucks because they keep trying to run headfirst into the enemy team is clearly not playing the class right more than anything else.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I play heavy without medic.
I run dalokos and KGB for a pocket medic.
Knocking out a demoknight and then melting a soldier that just popped his buff banner followed by the medic healing him is an incredible solo play rush.
People just need to get good.
2 years ago
Anonymous
HOLY FRICK IT'S BEEN SO LONG I FORGOT ABOUT THAT NERF ENTIRELY. FRICK. I HATE HAVING TO BE SPUN FOR AN ENTIRE SECOND JUST TO MELT homosexualS, FRICK.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You do realise that half of heavies close range dps is still enough to take out everything from soldier downwards in a single second?
the only thing they have left is airblast+dispenser locking, and I hope Valve fricks them so hard and make it so robots are immune to knockback in spawn. Imagine the salt, am I right
It is when these taconigs have a pyro and engineer to push the robots back in spawn. This works on maps where there is 1 entry for a giant robot, and they simply push it back. The players in question is Basil and Kina. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpbEmSTH5_Y&ab_channel=commiecat%F0%9F%85%A5
there's a new bot spamming m4gic in chat for some reason. and the same bots with green avatar. only thing that changed is they cant ddos the server if you call vote. also for some reason votes have %placeholders% sometimes. can't tell if my game is borked or if it's an exploit
>Loud brapping echoes throughout the map >Camera cuts to RED base >Heavy is sitting on Scout's face >Brapping >Scout is visibly erect >Heavy pulls out a hot pepper and eats it >Eyes go wide >drumbounce.mp3 >"Uh oh" >Lets out an atomic brap >Scoutdeathscream.mp3 >Scout gets up >His face is on fire >"FIYA FIYA FIYA!" >Sniper runs in and throws a mason jar at the Scout >"I upgraded mates!" >Heavy looks at the Scout >The jar was full of chunky half liquid shit >Scout pops a boner again >Demo walks in and begins fricking the Scout while smothering as much of the poo on him as possible >Scout braps hard enough to inflate the demo and separate them >drunknigsounds.mp3 >"I've got two dickets to the cum show, and I'm not giving 'em to ya. I'm going with YOUR dickets" >Demo begins to float away >Spy runs up and grabs the demo's legs >"Well, off to visit your mothers!" >Spy slips due to the poop and lands anus first on the scope of a BLU sniper who was looking up and spinning (He's a bot) >Sniper begins shooting >Spydeathscream.mp3 >Spydeathscream2.mp3 >Spydeathscream5.mp3 >Spy begins pissing and sharting from the experience >Medic and Engineer gaze upon the whole scene with a concerned look on their faces
the iron bomber was a always a demoman buff to compensate for the sticky nerf, but some reddit dev at valve listened to the moronic newbie youtubers that just saw different grenade models, i hope valve kills the official servers permanently so we can play pre-shit TF2
Yeah a black Scottish cyclops sticky jumped in 2 piped him, laugh taunted and then sticky jumped away.
some scout with the force of nature got arrested for it
>everyone thought the tweet by the TF2 twitter would be a nothingburger >they've actually been doing a steady stream of pretty major bugfixing updates including fixing shit that's been an issue for years like invisible object hitboxes
I guess sometimes public attention does still work. Happy to see it, even if it it's a bit late When are they going to make the loose cannon's hitbox match the giant fricking projectiles the weapon's not even good
People sleep on the power of the donk.
I enjoy it when you get the timing down and you just feel the seething and the cries in chat.
Denying ubers with it is so fun.
The casual matchmaking update ruined pubs. The whole best of 3 setup with fixed teams is meant for a competitive structure and not pubs. Getting teamwork in a pub environment might take more than 2 matches. The fixed team aspects makes people who are stuck with bad teams ragequit because they think it's beyond help, at the same time making it frustrating to people in turtling teams who can't switch to the other side. Steamrolls also cause ragequitting because players see it as a losing battle. There was nothing wrong with autobalance, team scrambling and old Valve pubs. If you thought team scrambling was a bad thing, you are juts stupid and didn't comprehend how badly it was needed
Would a gunslinger engie not be something viable for 6s? Plopping a mini on mid and getting teles up seem like it could help a good deal, his first rollout would be the hardest hurdle Id imagine.
>noooooooo it's not fair! TF2 is a competitive hardcore E-sports game! Everyone must have equal footing in this class based game with well defined strengths and weaknesses in rock-paper-scissors format! Noooooo you clobbered me when I wasn't paying attention because I'm moron without spacial awareness! Nooooooo you can't shower me with balls because I make myself an easy target out in the open. >nerf sniper! >nerf medic! >Nerf ironbomber! nerf pyro! nerf scout!
every character's arsenal must be impotent and equal like communism! i want to win! win win win win win! i am the best!
>use the bomber for 7 years >laugh at all of the screeching gays calling me a noob/crutch user/bug abuser >quit the game and don't come back >commemoration thread to cope about 8 years of rape as soon as the gun is nerfed
I had a good run with it so it did always made my day when someone b***hed about it. Everything else sucks and stock is for when i need that extra range for taking out sentries.
I feel like I don't know how to play scout well. If I get into meatshot range (I dont mean right up on them, mid range more like) i die to the enemy team, and if I shoot too far I do nothing. Any advice?
Don't run straight at them, don't attack until the team is not looking at you, if people start to notice you run and just hit your target again later when they forget about you
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIRON BOMBER IS STILL A STRAIGHT UPGRADE BECAUSE NON-ROLLING PILLS ARE BETTER FOR AREA DENIALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
What happened, it get nerfed? I have literally never owned this weapon because I'm F2P for 10 years and don't give a frick.
But I did enjoy the pre nerf loch n load. They should just keep the extra damage on that and make it 3 pipes. It should be the only "I will use this for direct hits" launcher in the game. All others should have shitty stock accuracy and be for roller spam as it was always meant to be.
Since tf2 team might actually get round to make balance changes now, what are you all hoping to see?
Removing the fire damage resistance from Darwin's Danger Shield and doing something about Vaccinator would definitely be appreciated.
Same thing with this piece of shit >Use scorch 24/7 >uh oh people are getting sick of this thing and complaining >switch off of it and start using Detonator >Get good with it. >Pair it with Dragons Fury >Assblast scouts for being cheeky c**ts and other enemy pyros. >Almost an even playing field with soldier and other damaging classes. >can jump on motherfrickers like every other lobotomized solider main can.
Its a pretty good trade off
now for a super different topic.
Something needs to be done with the Dragons Fury because it feels like its missing something it still kinda feels like I have to work harder to earn my kills then my moron cousins and fellow classes do. >Demoman can two shot anybody with pipes except heavy >Same with soldier >Scout is hitscan and ranged based. but can two shot peeps as well in the right conditions. >only person I can twoshot is scout and even then he lingers for a lil bit and it allows him to be healed before he dies.
This is actually a problem with it and I can only assume the only reason I dont see many pyros running around with it is that it honestly takes way too much effort when you can just use stock and get the same results faster with less effort.
time to go back to it.
always been a loose cannon + stock guy, and now i can add the iron bomber to that without having to worry about getting worse aim due to the hitbox being the same now.
IB is still probably going to be the best though, lack of rolly rollingtons is generally better in most situations.
NOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, I WAS USING IT FOR THE STATS IT HAS AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE CRUTCH HITBOX DOUBLE THE SIZE OF STOCK, WHO CARES? IT'S JUST FEW PIXELERINOS
This, but unironically.
I'm going to keep using it for the same reason I always have: because rollers are shit.
I use it because it sounds like a basketball.
It's my favorite hybrid knight weapon because I can use the bombs to jump very easily.
Video games.
it's still unironically better, having the short fuse time means people get hit by rollers much more often, the 30% less explosion size comes into play like, what, one in 100 cases?
By volume the hitbox was like four times the size of stock.
by volume it was actually over 10 times larger
This is the ugliest, but most creative shotgun I've ever seen. Is there anything uglier?
>shotgun
issa grenade launcher
There's actually a shotgun that looks like that in Destiny
you seen shotguns in borderlands?
borderland shotgun
Today is a good day
>always stuck with the stock GL because that hitbox was bullshit and i knew it would get fixed eventually
Cheers, mate
The Iron Bomber was released 8 years ago, you spent 8 years waiting to get the last laugh?
Aye!
Basado
Powerful.
Yes, And I spent the 7 years before the iron bomber released using the grenade launcher
I still can't believe this game is that fricking old
The best payoffs are the ones that take the longest. do you know how many "demoman mains stopped playing demoman yesterday after the weapon was fixed ?
Never fricking anything is intentional at valve lol.
That makes it even funnier
This shit is what makes it so funny. That other moron could've been enjoying using that weapon for 8 years but instead acts as if he somehow "won". 8 years is a fricking lifetime especially in a game.
Its like not playing as SL/SL Warlock back in TBC when it was at its strongest because "I know itll be nerfed eventually". Just stupid logic.
Someone people don't derive enjoyment from using shit they know is busted. They have some self-respect.
In any case it wasn't even known to have had a bigger hitbox for most of the 8 years. Instead we got treated to this display of demo players going "I'm getting hits with this thing more often because the lack of roll makes it more accurate!". Only for that it blow up in their faces when the real reason for it getting hits more often became known.
>Learning how to walk? Frick that, I'm gonna ride this wheelchair until they take it away from me.
Enjoy hobbling homie.
Except this is in a game you moron and it wouldnt be using a wheelchair it would be like using a jetpack to get around until its taken away from you.
Point is, theres no real reason that isnt "muh honor" to not use whatever is the most broken shit.
>Wow, this thing feels like ass to fight against
>I'd rather play games to have fun than eat shit, so i'm not going to use it
>Hopefully other people will do the same and we can all enjoy a good time
It's literally "do unto others"
>Damn this gun is OP as frick
>If I dont use it, there will be at least one other that does and doesnt respect this dumb idea of "do unto others" like I will, so why not use it
Its called not being a moron. Same reason why people ran OMA loadouts in MW2.
>Black folk exist
>Therefore i should lynch everyone i meet to avoid being a victim of Black person behaviour
That's you anon, the Black person is you. You can either prolong the cycle of Black personing or remove yourself from it
Youre a moron.
>If I dont use it, there will be at least one other that does and doesnt respect this dumb idea of "do unto others" like I will, so why not use it
Because until you actually see that other homosexual in a game, the only one that will be using it is you?
Idgaf about honor Igaf about having shitty atrophied noodle legs because I've relied on a fricking jetpack to get me to the toilet
Your analogy only works if somehow your skill would suffer as a direct result of using a strong weapon. Protip: it wont. So your analogy doesnt fit and even if it did, you could literally work on your muscles (or skill) and get them up to par after losing said jetpack, so theres literally no downside all you did was cuck yourself out of using a cool jetpack for 8 years.
I don't even play demo homosexual stop replying to me I don't care about all the inspirational phrases you use to feel okay about your crutches
>The Iron Bomber was released 8 years ago
Used IB for a while but switched back to stock so my brain wouldn't get fried when they inevitably fixed it. Now I'll probably go back to it.
I avoided using it because of the broke ass hitbox, now hopefully I can use it without it feeling broken
I got all the use out of it that I could before getting patched and it was worth it lol.
This isn’t some kind of “4D chess” you just missed out.
personally i started using the cannon ball launcher, its way more fun
>charge sticks for some reason now, same time eureka effect always wants to pull up teleport menu unprompted
>absolutely no fricking idea on how to fix it
>could probably just redo my whole config but years of changes and personal accomodations would be too much for me to care recreating
tfw begrudgingly forced to be stock chad
was there a patch?
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/440/view/3364768432727874424
Chadposting Wins Again!
this almost makes me want to reinstall, but it's not been fun to play even with drugs anymore.
just try different drugs anon
no adderall here, only ~2% "speed", so stims are out of the question, gaming on psychedelics feels waste and opiates make me too sleepy/nod.
crossfading is definitely the best way to enjoy tf2, apart from stims, but stims make mostly everything the best.
elaborate on your drug gaming experiences please?
why did he do this?
did you rike it
S to spit on Iron Crutch users
STOCKCHADS WE FRICKING WON
>still inferior to the iron bomber
Stock bros...
>6 cylinders - only 4 cans
Gotta put the booze somewhere
Helloooo everybody JERma here coming at you again with another TEAM fortress 2 update
LMAO GET FRICKED
STOCK 4 LYFE
Stock chads stay winning
People still play this bot infested crap pile?
The bots got kneecapped.
why would you lie on the internet
Valve doesn't care to fix the bot problem
There's literally less bots than before. It might not have been a thing they were actually aiming for, but it's one of the things that got fixed by an update.
>why would you lie on the internet
Projection from someone lying on the internet out of spite.
You haven't played the game, you're just talking shit because all you add to the world is misery.
Killing yourself would be the first thing you've done in a long time to make the world a better place.
you first, moron, you gays always say the bot problem is over, and when I check the state of the game it's a constant struggle to get morons to vote them out, often causing ragequits because of a round won thanks to the 3+ aimbots and such
A large majority of time time bots I've seen join matches they're nearly immediately voted out. The main issue is getting hackers with multi-shot/crit hacks voted out or groups of 4-6 going around votekicking casual servers empty.
Since the update to allow both teams to votekick simultaneously, I haven't had a single match where bots got above 1-2 per team, and were always kicked within a minute.
>The main issue is getting hackers with multi-shot/crit hacks voted out or groups of 4-6 going around votekicking casual servers empty.
This is still a problem, and often the only solution is the requeue. However, since they are real people, they are much more limited than the huge botnets swarming casual before.
I'm not saying everything is 100% perfect, but the improvement from that one patch a few weeks ago was such a massive improvement that it feels like it's only a matter of time before more fixes come in. It only took a month for the hashtag to make finding a game full of real players 10x easier.
>The bots got kneecapped
Uh huh, yeah like I haven't heard that one 10 x before.
the game is still fricking unplayble between 11pm-10am
so who fricking cares if they got "kneecapped" they need to be fricking GONE. you stupid Stockholm syndrome homosexual.
>another Abe thread
Whatever it wasn't that good anyways
It's a very mild side grade now. I see it being more useful in close quarters or for hybrid knight. Stock has more range and more versatility with rollers.
holy cope
reddit: the game
reddit: the post
NOW REVERT THE FRICKING LOCH 'N LOAD AND KINO IS BACK ON THE MENU
also caber
forgot about the caber
revert the caber
>revert caber
>revert Darwin's back to health or bullet resistance, don't give a frick which
Sniper mains get fricked, every nerf revolving around them (see also Amby) is lame as frick.
The Ambassador nerf made me stop playing Spy entirely, and the other revolvers that were none stock were generally much better anyways pre nerf
>The Ambassador nerf made me stop playing Spy entirely
Good. It's moronic that a class that can turn invisible can do 125 six times in a row at any range.
There's an old Star_ video about specifically why it's moronic. You can frick an entire team up by just hitting a Heavy once and then bailing. Yeah, you don't get the kill, but you completely leech their confidence in their current plan at NO COST to yourself.
Even Snipers have to charge their gun for a second, and slow their movement, and can't turn invisible.
>ambassador
>"125" damage
>6 times in a row
Not this shit bait again.
Whos to blame if one spy aggros an entire team of dumbasses?
>ambassador was bad because you could use it to inconvience people
wow...
Black person why you are crying, spy got a movespeed buff and they have never addressed the issue that all dead ringer users never even pretend to feign death with is, 100% of its users just use it as a free shield that makes killing spy a hassle ten times as worse compared to catching one using the other watches
At this point at least bring back the extra 25 health back to make it more resistant to Phlog Pyros.
Caber can still 1 shot light classes by crouching as you connect.
It's fricking fine.
No, NO IT ISNT YOU FRICKING Black person
125 at any range is bullshit.
It doesn't deal 125 unless random damage spread is enabled, and that has been disabled by default for years bro
The original version did. That +25% damage wasn't only buildings.
it was 20% more damage overall you lying sack of shit, after the nerf they made it 25% more to only buildings
>125 at any range is bullshit.
no, you stupid homosexual. you should be hitting directs anyway you goddamn shitter. you do not need to be rewarded for not missing. you already get that with the stickybomb launcher.
Loch n Load should get a rework that makes it more like Scout's double-barrells, fast fire rate and fast reload but only two shots. No extra damage on players, you gotta hit both, and since shot velocity is faster too it's easier to hit both.
I would fricking love that, damn.
if you're still playing tf2 you got fricked a long time ago
For me it's Loose Cannon
It may not be a meta but shit is fun as hell.
My man
check em
Good crop, saved
I got a bucket of checkem
WTF
You use Iron Bomber because of its broke yee yee ass hitboxes
I use Iron Bomber because it looks cooler than stock
We are not the same
I wonder how much of a price drop these will get, the amby's was brutal after it's nerf.
Feels damn good to own an expensive stock and not this crutch garbage.
I just like the loose cannon.
>i-it's not a real nerf
>it was never a-actually b-broken
>s-still viable
>I didnt lose money!
watching reddit lose their shit over this has been hilarious
when will this hack finish his game
What game
Future Fragments, it's some sort of sex pervert game for sex perverts probably just a patreon scam
I remember when people used to insist the bomber had the same projectile size
Does this mean they'll go back and fix the busted Snadman and Amby?
they aren't going to de-nerf the sandman or ambassador, anon, especially not after all the compgay whining it took to get both neutered. the iron bomber shit wasn't even really a nerf, it's really a bug fix that makes the gun work as intended.
they are not bugged though?
Sandman dont work so good these days, it doesnt do anything
Valve actually fixing Iron Bomber hitboxes means they actually seem to be willing to balance again
>Valve actually fixing Iron Bomber hitboxes means they actually seem to be willing to balance again
Not really. The idea that a bug fix should automatically be considered a balance change just because it happens to impact balance was moronic.
You're basically saying that if an outright exploit that could only be used with a certain class was found. You wouldn't be able to fix it as it would technically be a nerf to that class.. There's a very clear difference between fixing shit that was unintentional and fixing shit that was.
The slowdown is bugged, you can just strafe back and forth to negate it.
no one does that
Doesn't matter still spamming at dustbowl last point of left side of tiny house chokepoint.
Chokepointfest maps like dustbowl 2fort and junction are shit because any demoman can get kills with the easy cramped spaces playing well designed open maps like granary, coldfront, badlands and excelling at it is what separates the bad demoman with the good ones
Sure but I ain't dealing with medic + heavy combo spam in pub game.
loose cannon is better anyway
I never even used it because I have a gorillian kills on my strange stock. What's the point of its intended usage? Just being able to kinda sticky jump as hybrid knight?
>What's the point of its intended usage?
to shoot pipes on the ground for shitters who can't aim normal pipes, not make it easier to hit direct shots.
Better and more consistent indirect shots at the cost of less splash. Now its just an inconspicuous side grade instead of massive objective upgrade due to a fricking huge projectile size making it much easier to hit.
Am I bad if I enjoy making scouts rage with natascha Heavy?
The scout is bad for not knowing about AD tapping
No, you are my brother.
How is playing heavy not the most suffering thing with slow movespeed and such spy/sniper weakness?
it wasn't back before they intentionally ruined heavy. snipers were literally never a problem, ever, because heavy is about knowing how when and where to move. also before they ruined heavy you could easily snipe snipers with your minigun.
What happened to ruin heavy?
increased spread at range and changed minigun spin up while jumping behavior
the minigun spinup change is probably the #1 most anti-fun change in online gaming history, which I have been there for 100% of
>hey you can execute a skillful maneuver to make this class viable
>better remove that!
>changed minigun spin up while jumping behavior
I used to play Heavy every now and then and I totally forgot why I completely stopped playing him for literal years, now I remember why.
yeah they just straight up murdered him out of the game. I quit TF2 that day and have never played a single game again.
I haven't really played heavy in years, what did they do to the jump spin? Was it something before 2012?
Not necessarily the spin jump, but when you first rev you deal half damage, and it takes a second to ramp up to full.
Blame the tomislav. Valve would probably just have brought the spin-time back up if they hadn't put tomislav in the game.
As a result of the spin up damage nerf it made Heavy far less capable of being played super aggressively by going balls deep right into enemy lines so he feels far more sluggish to play now. The spin up nerf fricked the spin jump because you don't deal full damage once you pull it off like you could prior like
stated, so to prevent getting fricked you have to instead play it much slower by staying revved constantly while turning corners. This also leads to him being a sitting duck most of the time now. He's just flat out not fun to play anymore, at least to someone who enjoyed playing Heavy pre spin nerf.
right, and this is exactly how i played, ultra hyper aggressive. nobody could deal with it in the history of tf2
thanks for nerfing me, personally. appreciate it
>so to prevent getting fricked
You still have highest health pool in the game and doing half of what is still an incredibly high close range dps. What seems more likely is the target actually having a chance to escape. Bumping into a heavy round a corner being a death sentence wasn't fair or fun.
>nobody could deal with it in the history of tf2
Basically a good change then.
>Basically a good change then.
uhh no i was competitive quake 1-3 and early cs player,i should be better than everyone
Then boy do I have a class for you!
that class is the exact opposite of the skills i have. real fps players moved around. moving was part of the skill
Then boy do I have a class for you!
dies too quickly
the reality of it is like everything else they have ever touched valve eventually ruined tf2
But I thought you were better than everyone else?
i am, doesnt mean i have to be forced off the class i want to play
Then why are you dying quickly as scout?
this poster only thinks about Black person dick
he who smelt it, felt it
Nah it's because nobody who is straight uses the term real players unironically
Soldier is clearly the class you're looking for. I don't know what that other guy thought he was doing suggesting sniper.
>he doesn't know
Kids now a days are like 100 times better at video games than the mid 90s. The talent pool is much larger resulting in a higher grade of player.
Cope more ya old frick
>Kids now a days are like 100 times better at video games than the mid 90s.
No. No they are not
Funny, you only see a handful of thirty year olds on any competive circuit for any game.
Its almost like players who have a larger pool of players to play against while they are developing skills facilitates a better class of player.
INSANITY I TELL YOU
Please, all those “competitive” kids are fodder for the 30 year olds
>the kids who play my backwater game suck!
People who are good at videogames are going to play relevant video games, because they can make money doing that. Real money, not like the 20 bucks the tf2 super duper world wide championship pays out.
Yes, those people with 30 years of experience playing a genre that is poverty are only slightly ahead of 15-20 year olds with not even a 6th of there time playing fighting games. And that is just people playing the games because they LIKE THEM. Fgc is poverty and real talent plays games that pay. If the fgc suddenly saw a 1000% increase in payouts across the board the landscape would change within a year or two and no former top players would still be around.
>because they can make money doing that.
This is a deliberate lie to keep shitters like you in check.
If you are so good, why don't you play professionally?
Wait, you can't because the second you play a game that pays somthing you could live on you get blown the frick up by teenagers.
Just keep lying to yourself, you are not good at video games.
What game bridges the gap between what was popular in the '90s and the current era? Smash and fighting games are the only two, and you see plenty of career vets in those.
the kids that have been playing since the 90's and 00's are better, not modern kids
>Bumping into a heavy round a corner being a death sentence wasn't fair or fun.
I agree, but the way they went about counteracting this was horrible. That single rampup nerf massively changed the way Heavy plays and ever since then he just feels like a slog to play, at least in my opinion. Even though spin jumping was busted I had a ton more fun being able to play super aggressively as Heavy instead of playing as a huge plodding target. Oh well.
>hop spin
>pyro turns the corner
>minigun lays bullets into the pyro
>pyro M1's
>heavy dies
>pyro runs off at 12 health
this played out the opposite way 100% of every time. heavy was in fact one of pyro's worst counters through the entire relevant era of tf2.
doesn't mean anything that the average person can't aim. pyro is hopeless against heavy.
into a heavy round a corner being a death sentence wasn't fair or fun.
you're supposed to look before you commit to going around corners
imagine it being the game's fault that you are tin level at a casual game
>it's not fair!
woulda been hilarious watching you play q3
>you're supposed to look before you commit to going around corners
Unless you're suggesting abusing the high-five taunt, I don't see how you're supposed to know what is round a corner without walking round it.
did you know you can fricking walk back
then play heavy
the solution was not completely ruining heavy which was ALREADY WEAK. I had to do high skill manuevers to get by at a BASIC LEVEL and youre lal "aiwww it was anti fun :~~*" *uses demoman*
i know you fricking gays complaining are demo mains lol i know it
>did you know you can fricking walk back
Yes... that's why the minigun got nerfed, so escape as an option, idiot.
it got nerfed because people are piss babies and cried "Wannnh no counterplay" counterplay is be better and kill me so i'm not there
suck a fat dick defending nerfing the highest skill ceiling class when fricking demoman exists through the entirety of tf2 im sure its complete skilless garbage today as it was back then
>highest skill ceiling class
sniper?
>high skill maneuvers
>literally all you're doing is jumping around a corner while holding m2 at the same time for a free kill
you must be seriously brain damaged, makes sense you were a heavy main
wow it's really funny how few people could do it well, since it's so simple!
since it's so simple and unbeatable I will assume heavy wa shistorically the most popular class, not one of the 3 least popular
lmao actual zoomers upholding fricking nerfs in fps games because they got stepped on. go back to fortnite you dont even deserve shambling zombie ruined tf2
>considers jumping around a corner while holding m2 a high skill maneuver
>also considers heavy the highest skill ceiling class in the game
alright you're either a drooling moron or just trolling at this point
>it's not a high skill manuever
>but i couldn't do it and I also couldn't deal with it
i guess that shows where your skill level lies. not good enough to get to back lines as spy, huh?
alright yeah you're trolling at this point, no way you're this moronic. i don't even know why i bothered responding
It's painfully obvious this is bait, but the reason heavy is one of the least played classes is because you're dependant on having someone play medic, who is even less popular class. You could try running heavy without one but being a class that fights by tanking instead of dodging that lack of a heal input will make your limit how much you can do each time.
>heavy players consider jumping to be a "high skill manuever"
Explains a lot.
>just look before you commit bro
>heavy spin jumps around the corner and deletes you instantly before you have a chance to escape or fight back
it was fun if you were the heavy but it was always shit if you were on the receiving end
Man you would have hated day 1 heavy weapons guy when he instead dealt 0 fricking damage because of how slow spinning up was.
Have my ideal Heavy adjustments that'll never happen
>remove all scaling damage/spread bullshit on the minigun
>slow spinup to between 119th update and launch day speed
>both spinup and spindown can be cancelled into any other action, no questions asked
>provide heavy 1 perfectly accurate bullet per ammo spent, adjust damage and fire rate to compensate so DPS is identical
Better damage at range if you can track, better ability to bail out of committing to the minigun, not needing to worry about scaling damage shit outside of falloff/rampup
Honestly the heavy they had in TF2C seems ideal. Basically launch heavy but with spread tightened to live version and the freedom to switch weapons mid-spin. No serious attempts to shoehorn him into competitive breaking him at pub-level. No GRU and no Tomislav, just classic sandvich
You have a video explaining this? Now is probably the time to bring it up.
>jumping before spinning up
>a skillful manoeuvre
This is literally the first time I've heard of this though. Or the increased spread at range. Normally people b***h about that damage penalty given when initially spinning up.
I didn’t realize Pyro and Heavy were nearly on the same level of being gutted, damn.
That's spy and pyro.
Spy is still viable, he hasn’t had core mechanics nerfs like Pyro and apparently heavy, just weapon nerfs which everyone has has besides soldier, sniper, and medic.
Spawn wallhacks fricked him a fair bit. Despite the complaints in this thread heavy remains a viable pick whenever rollout isn't an issue. Pyro and Spy on the other hand get consistently placed in the lowest tier for effectiveness.
idk I never really struggle to get kills with spy even with a good enemy team but if you are on the losing side then Heavy is nearly unplayable unless enemies have no snipers and spies. Pyro I’m okay at even with the core mechanic nerfs but that’s because I’ve played him way more than others. Hitting flares is really hard now constantly since they fricked with airblast and since afterburn has variable duration with flamethrowers valve basically made it so the only real way to play consistently as pyro is to flare spam to ensure you get max duration. With spy you can still be consistent and facestabs are still possible. They even gave him a small movement buff a couple years ago too.
Are you judging heavy by playing him without a medic? Because that's basically the same as judging sniper by playing him at close range.
Snipers can still click heads right in front of him
Regardless, someone saying sniper sucks because they keep trying to run headfirst into the enemy team is clearly not playing the class right more than anything else.
I play heavy without medic.
I run dalokos and KGB for a pocket medic.
Knocking out a demoknight and then melting a soldier that just popped his buff banner followed by the medic healing him is an incredible solo play rush.
People just need to get good.
HOLY FRICK IT'S BEEN SO LONG I FORGOT ABOUT THAT NERF ENTIRELY. FRICK. I HATE HAVING TO BE SPUN FOR AN ENTIRE SECOND JUST TO MELT homosexualS, FRICK.
You do realise that half of heavies close range dps is still enough to take out everything from soldier downwards in a single second?
Yes. But it was even better back then.
You are a baby if all you care about is speed. The raw power behind a giant man with a gun is so much that he is feared by compgays.
Ok but you must admit taking twice as long to get to a place only to get backstabbed by a dropstab spy when you arrive is infuriating
No. Considering I use the GRU, have an engineer doing his job, and watch my back.
Honestly using anything specifically to piss people off is shitty.
Where do you think we are?
A site full of shitty people.
No, frick scout mains
also pisses off demoknights
more importantly, frick those exploit abusing tacoBlack folk
Taco bot homosexuals have literally been depowered, its over for them.
the only thing they have left is airblast+dispenser locking, and I hope Valve fricks them so hard and make it so robots are immune to knockback in spawn. Imagine the salt, am I right
>dispenser locking
whats that?
It is when these taconigs have a pyro and engineer to push the robots back in spawn. This works on maps where there is 1 entry for a giant robot, and they simply push it back. The players in question is Basil and Kina. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpbEmSTH5_Y&ab_channel=commiecat%F0%9F%85%A5
now THIS is some serious autism. I wish Valve handed out bans for this type of homosexual shit.
flamethrower is still doing double to triple damage on ramps. they need to fix that shit
TacoBlack folk can get fricked forever
Wish I had a strange grenade launcher.
I think I'll keep using my civic duty iron bomber, because it looks cool.
I miss the old Loose Cannon.
don't care i always used the stock or the LC anyways
I used if cause I thought it looked cool.
I did find it odd that I hit people a lot easier though.
>Saves your game
Bros, I think it's time to apologize
what they actually fixed it? never thought i'd see the day, holy shit
>Didn't even realise it had bigger hitboxes
>liked the heavy rollers (pairs well with hybrid knight) and it sounds cool
I'm still using it. More importantly just seeing a fricking update for this game is something
yeah I never knew about the bug, but I still thought it was a crutch
Witnessed the changes today in 2fort demo couldnt hit me for shit and I pissed and crit chopped him lol
is the game actually playable now, EUbros?
there's a new bot spamming m4gic in chat for some reason. and the same bots with green avatar. only thing that changed is they cant ddos the server if you call vote. also for some reason votes have %placeholders% sometimes. can't tell if my game is borked or if it's an exploit
so thats a no then
God Id fricking kill to go back to 2010 just to have one more all nighter playing tf2
They are addressing exploits bit by bit. I hope a new anti cheat will be implemented eventually
>I hope a new anti cheat will be implemented eventually
see you in 2042
Nope. Unplayable at night, almost entirely so.
>play recently
>dont notice a difference at all
i mean, i actually hit people with the pills so yeah i guess it wouldnt matter to me
>Loud brapping echoes throughout the map
>Camera cuts to RED base
>Heavy is sitting on Scout's face
>Brapping
>Scout is visibly erect
>Heavy pulls out a hot pepper and eats it
>Eyes go wide
>drumbounce.mp3
>"Uh oh"
>Lets out an atomic brap
>Scoutdeathscream.mp3
>Scout gets up
>His face is on fire
>"FIYA FIYA FIYA!"
>Sniper runs in and throws a mason jar at the Scout
>"I upgraded mates!"
>Heavy looks at the Scout
>The jar was full of chunky half liquid shit
>Scout pops a boner again
>Demo walks in and begins fricking the Scout while smothering as much of the poo on him as possible
>Scout braps hard enough to inflate the demo and separate them
>drunknigsounds.mp3
>"I've got two dickets to the cum show, and I'm not giving 'em to ya. I'm going with YOUR dickets"
>Demo begins to float away
>Spy runs up and grabs the demo's legs
>"Well, off to visit your mothers!"
>Spy slips due to the poop and lands anus first on the scope of a BLU sniper who was looking up and spinning (He's a bot)
>Sniper begins shooting
>Spydeathscream.mp3
>Spydeathscream2.mp3
>Spydeathscream5.mp3
>Spy begins pissing and sharting from the experience
>Medic and Engineer gaze upon the whole scene with a concerned look on their faces
>remove the only thing that let demoman compete with soldier
dont act surprised when everyone switches to soldier to make the game even more cancer
>he can't aim stock pipes
lmaoing at your life, you've had 15 years to learn
the iron bomber was a always a demoman buff to compensate for the sticky nerf, but some reddit dev at valve listened to the moronic newbie youtubers that just saw different grenade models, i hope valve kills the official servers permanently so we can play pre-shit TF2
Did everyone suddenly forget that the sticky launcher was the best weapon in the game?
Thanks Kilburn
As an Isaac player I will always laugh about this
It took 8 years for Kilburn's secret curse on tf2 to be lifted, he is truly a bringer of chaos
I miss when Hush wasn't slightly bullshit, next update better fricking fix/revert him to his Afterbirth+ state
hush fix never
is that the gun used to kill schizo abe?
Yeah a black Scottish cyclops sticky jumped in 2 piped him, laugh taunted and then sticky jumped away.
some scout with the force of nature got arrested for it
Heavy has the highest skill floor in tf2. You need a 200 iq to play heavy, not for everybody.
>everyone thought the tweet by the TF2 twitter would be a nothingburger
>they've actually been doing a steady stream of pretty major bugfixing updates including fixing shit that's been an issue for years like invisible object hitboxes
I guess sometimes public attention does still work. Happy to see it, even if it it's a bit late
When are they going to make the loose cannon's hitbox match the giant fricking projectiles the weapon's not even good
>the weapon's not even good
Demoman already slaughters Heavy but the Loose Cannon just straight up counters him.
>spoiler
no.
it'd be dumb, and the weapon really doesn't need it.
just learn to aim and use it, and it's actually good.
People sleep on the power of the donk.
I enjoy it when you get the timing down and you just feel the seething and the cries in chat.
Denying ubers with it is so fun.
>getting excited over some minor bug fixes
You'll forget all about this when Overwatch 2 drops
Just like how overwatch 1 was going to make everyone forget?
Lmao it's just going to spawn porn, and die again.
It's literally STILL a straight upgrade to stock
Based. Was looking for this all morning, just couldn't remember the name.
Its still a straight upgrade because of the rollers and shorter fuse but it's still something i guess.
The casual matchmaking update ruined pubs. The whole best of 3 setup with fixed teams is meant for a competitive structure and not pubs. Getting teamwork in a pub environment might take more than 2 matches. The fixed team aspects makes people who are stuck with bad teams ragequit because they think it's beyond help, at the same time making it frustrating to people in turtling teams who can't switch to the other side. Steamrolls also cause ragequitting because players see it as a losing battle. There was nothing wrong with autobalance, team scrambling and old Valve pubs. If you thought team scrambling was a bad thing, you are juts stupid and didn't comprehend how badly it was needed
>The casual matchmaking update ruined pubs.
yeah no shit, there's a reason meet your match is considered one of the top 3 worst updates for this game.
I just go hybrid demo, and taunt everytime I get a donk.
Would a gunslinger engie not be something viable for 6s? Plopping a mini on mid and getting teles up seem like it could help a good deal, his first rollout would be the hardest hurdle Id imagine.
He cant get in before the scouts and turns out minisentries suck when the demos and soldier actually do their job and blow them up unlike in pubs.
Liberty Launcher into Panic Attack works like garbage to me.
Post yer drunks
>noooooooo it's not fair! TF2 is a competitive hardcore E-sports game! Everyone must have equal footing in this class based game with well defined strengths and weaknesses in rock-paper-scissors format! Noooooo you clobbered me when I wasn't paying attention because I'm moron without spacial awareness! Nooooooo you can't shower me with balls because I make myself an easy target out in the open. >nerf sniper! >nerf medic! >Nerf ironbomber! nerf pyro! nerf scout!
every character's arsenal must be impotent and equal like communism! i want to win! win win win win win! i am the best!
so you admit the bug made the weapon stronger
>use the bomber for 7 years
>laugh at all of the screeching gays calling me a noob/crutch user/bug abuser
>quit the game and don't come back
>commemoration thread to cope about 8 years of rape as soon as the gun is nerfed
its not rape if its a crutch
>furry
>abuses broken shit
not surprised
I had a good run with it so it did always made my day when someone b***hed about it. Everything else sucks and stock is for when i need that extra range for taking out sentries.
>i-im not mad or anything h-haha i quit the game just in time haha...im not mad im not upset!
Sure thing, sonny.
I feel like I don't know how to play scout well. If I get into meatshot range (I dont mean right up on them, mid range more like) i die to the enemy team, and if I shoot too far I do nothing. Any advice?
You play scout like fast spy
Don't run straight at them, don't attack until the team is not looking at you, if people start to notice you run and just hit your target again later when they forget about you
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIRON BOMBER IS STILL A STRAIGHT UPGRADE BECAUSE NON-ROLLING PILLS ARE BETTER FOR AREA DENIALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
15 ai is so fricking bad
That's just because the creator fed the ai the fricking robot voicelines too for some idiotic reason
I only used the iron bomber with demoknight, makes jumping a lot easier.
I prefer to use the Loose Cannon for jumps
It's still better than stock tho
All that's happened now is that redditors won't piss and shit their pants when I use this gun anymore
stock is better for spamming choke points
i don't give a shit about the iron bomber, are the fricking bots fixed yet
There's a shit ton less of them. So I would say yes.
>refused to use it out of principle
Honorchads always win in the end.
Cheater's Lament chads, rise up
Sorry honorcucks, but in real life the douchechads get the wins
LOCH-N-LOADBROS WHERE YOU AT?
REPORTING FOR DUTY
how does anyone enjoy scout?
I love my ball.
Scout is fun because of the speed.
What happened, it get nerfed? I have literally never owned this weapon because I'm F2P for 10 years and don't give a frick.
But I did enjoy the pre nerf loch n load. They should just keep the extra damage on that and make it 3 pipes. It should be the only "I will use this for direct hits" launcher in the game. All others should have shitty stock accuracy and be for roller spam as it was always meant to be.
bros...
Pottery.
I feel nothing, for I didn't use it. I didn't like the sound it made compared to the stock launcher.
The pills not bouncing is actually pretty useful.
>vaccinator still in the game
>stickies not nerfed
>hackers everywhere
Sorry, but I'm still not going to play TF2
>vaccinator still in the game
right thanks anon I almost launched this shit again
Since tf2 team might actually get round to make balance changes now, what are you all hoping to see?
Removing the fire damage resistance from Darwin's Danger Shield and doing something about Vaccinator would definitely be appreciated.
>using anything but stock only
Don't care, still invalidating engineers with Loch n' Load.
put dispenser here
WE NEED A DISPENSER RIIIIGHT HERE
Heck yes
DON'T WORRY BOYS
THE ENGINEER, IS ENGI-HERE
Heck no
Loose Cannonchads... our time is now...
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>Heavy flies across the map
I changed my Loose Cannon double donk to sound like Crash Bash Cortex hurt sound(https://youtu.be/a5srO4pXJbE&t=57s) and the icon into pic related
I'm not complaining. Always preferred the design of stock but I used IB because it was a straight upgrade.
it's happening again bros
>tournament medals
tournament medals are the new localization files
>no Updated the localization files
Its...over...
fix the scorch shot you fricks
stay mad
Same thing with this piece of shit
>Use scorch 24/7
>uh oh people are getting sick of this thing and complaining
>switch off of it and start using Detonator
>Get good with it.
>Pair it with Dragons Fury
>Assblast scouts for being cheeky c**ts and other enemy pyros.
>Almost an even playing field with soldier and other damaging classes.
>can jump on motherfrickers like every other lobotomized solider main can.
Its a pretty good trade off
now for a super different topic.
Something needs to be done with the Dragons Fury because it feels like its missing something it still kinda feels like I have to work harder to earn my kills then my moron cousins and fellow classes do.
>Demoman can two shot anybody with pipes except heavy
>Same with soldier
>Scout is hitscan and ranged based. but can two shot peeps as well in the right conditions.
>only person I can twoshot is scout and even then he lingers for a lil bit and it allows him to be healed before he dies.
This is actually a problem with it and I can only assume the only reason I dont see many pyros running around with it is that it honestly takes way too much effort when you can just use stock and get the same results faster with less effort.
time to go back to it.
always been a loose cannon + stock guy, and now i can add the iron bomber to that without having to worry about getting worse aim due to the hitbox being the same now.
IB is still probably going to be the best though, lack of rolly rollingtons is generally better in most situations.
When are they gonna fix the Bison
i spam the scorchshot down corridors on dustbowl and then activate my phlog. and get 1-2kills and die.