There's no consequence to fricking up here. For all I know, you're actually the same guy making a weird self-aware joke but pretending to be someone else. That's probably not the case, but the point still stands that you're a queer.
Nah, marking the signs of a tourist is a good thing. Gatekeeping is important. Another example is seething about anime on an anime website. Immediate give away.
Nah, marking the signs of a tourist is a good thing. Gatekeeping is important. Another example is seething about anime on an anime website. Immediate give away.
are you fricking moronic? he obviously was calling out gay OP for avatargayging. go sit in the corner summergay. never post again
It makes since given the Dark Souls lore. Magic comes from the common soul mist creatures possess, lightning is a miracle derived from the great soul of Gwyn, pyromancy from the corrupted great soul of the Witch of Izalith. Poison is the only weird one since it’s also associated with pyromancy but Demon’s Souls implies poison is associated with sin and impurity which fits the backstory for the Witch of Izalith pretty well thematically
That's not Dark Souls. Poison isn't the same mechanic as elemental damage except in Sekiro. The game that's from is Blasphemous.
Also, the reason pyromancy has all that extra stuff is that in the original Japanese it's not "pyromancy" but just a type of curse magic. It would be more accurate to call it something like witchcraft.
Rock was 100% the same as Stone, though, right? Just a different term. And Sand makes sense as a separate element element, because even though it's obviously the same physical substance, the overall properties are very different.
Ambiguous on the Rock/Stone thing, pretty sure that's just the community going "nah we good, we all agree on this right?" instead of any real distinction. I mean, why the different names then? And I agree with Sand, but it was still forgotten initially 🙂
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>And I agree with Sand, but it was still forgotten initially 🙂
I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
The toy came with a "rock" that the figure could kick by twisting the gear on his butt. This feature wouldn't be possible without inverting his torso. Canonically, he looks more normal in the story, i.e. in the Mask of Life movie.
Fire has nothing to do with air. >b-but you can't light them without air
a) wrong
b) how are you going to light them without a fuel source
Fire is a reaction, not a material.
Anything related to molten rock/magma/lava should be a combination element, very much like how some games handle weaknesses and resistances a combination element should follow the same formula. An enemy weak to earth would take double damage, an enemy weak to earth but resists fire would take neutral damage, an enemy weak to both earth and fire would take quadruple damage while an enemy that resists both earth and fire should take a quarter of the damage
Combining elements is something I wish games did more often
I mean if rocks to melt are already underground, then you are only using extrime heat to create magma. But you also need to make the upwards hole in the tectonic whatever, (I don't remember the terminology). And that's just moving earth around. So both.
"Bug" was so stupid as a type in Pokemon. All the attacks should basically fall under Normal or Poison. What makes "bugs" special as opposed to birds, mammals, or reptiles?
Bird is also a type. Flying was prototyped as "bird" type.
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Well obviously that didn't make the cut so it's irrelevant.
Ambiguous on the Rock/Stone thing, pretty sure that's just the community going "nah we good, we all agree on this right?" instead of any real distinction. I mean, why the different names then? And I agree with Sand, but it was still forgotten initially 🙂
The reason "Rock" has a different name is because it's based on the Rock Tribe, a group of people, rather than the actual element itself. When the Great Beings were designing the Matoran Universe, they named it Stone after the actual element itself.
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Anonymous
Ambiguous on the Rock/Stone thing, pretty sure that's just the community going "nah we good, we all agree on this right?" instead of any real distinction. I mean, why the different names then? And I agree with Sand, but it was still forgotten initially 🙂
I forgot to add this: All the different Tribes on Spherus Magna were named after the biomes they lived in, long before the idea of elemental powers was even dreamed up by the Great Beings. Obviously Rock and Stone are interchangeable terms, but the Rock Tribe lived in rocky mountains and that's just what they went with to describe themselves. As for why the real-life Story Team changed the term, there's basically no reason other than making Bara Magna feel a little more different.
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ANOTHER thing I have to add is that sand, in real life, is the result of coastal erosion after millions and millions of years of rocks being broken apart by the sea. The Matoran Universe is a relatively new object, and everything inside it is artificial, so it doesn't really make sense for Sand to exist inside it at all.
The english localization for pokemon its moronic
In all the other languages the "dark" type its actually the "evil" type
Thats why ghost its weak to dark
Wind doesn't erode. The particles (earth) in the wind do the erosion.
>earth is weak to wind
>i am a complete moron
Wind blows away the nutrient-rich soil layer if there haven't been any rains, making it barren and unfit to support life. Wind also changes the terrain of deserts, shifting entire dunes from place to place.
>Stone golems take more damage from an attack called gust than from an attack called molten meteor storm because, well the wind can blow sand around sometimes okay?
Yes? Classical elemental systems were based on what older cultures thought were the fundamental forces of existence. Fantasy elements flow from them. A wind spell is not a mild breeze, it's a massive magically-empowered expulsion of air all at once. You're looking at hurricane force winds and tornadoes at the weakest.
>implying light and dark aren't abstract labels referring to the injection or retraction of pure magic
Why do you think light is associated with pure force like shields and enhancement like healing and buffs? It's just augmenting and energizing the existing matter. Dark is the direct opposite in that it disperses magic and deteriorates the nature physical function of things it comes into contact with - hence 'undead' being a state of dark magic and the strongest undead immortals being masters of the dark arts.
What do you think electricity is, buddy? It's not air. Rather, depending on the lore of the system fire, air, earth and water should translate to energy, gas, solid and liquid respectively. That makes more sense - and in my far more sensible system electricity is actually a type of fire magic.
>he doesn't recognize noos and anima as a fundamental element of life
Indeed. Desire is the beginning of life and thought its apex. Honestly love should come under 'thought' or 'nature' in terms of elements.
lightning is plasma
So is a flame if it gets hot enough
Lightning and fire are both energetic reactions and not matter in a stable state. That's the fundamental difference. You're trying to compare verbs to nouns.
>implying light and dark aren't abstract labels referring to the injection or retraction of pure magic
Why do you think light is associated with pure force like shields and enhancement like healing and buffs? It's just augmenting and energizing the existing matter. Dark is the direct opposite in that it disperses magic and deteriorates the nature physical function of things it comes into contact with - hence 'undead' being a state of dark magic and the strongest undead immortals being masters of the dark arts.
Was that the digital tcg with way too many elements and slightly scuffed artwork? I forget what it was called but I remember doing weird shit with Schrodinger’s cat.
Earth
Nature (plants)
Fire
Lightning
Water
Ice
Wind
Holy
Dark
Poison
Pyschic
Tech
Cosmic
Necromancy
(alternatively life and death)
Arcane (non-elemental but magic based)
Shapeshifting
Beast Control
Summoning
Chi/Martial Arts Technique
Chaos/Void
Am I missing any? I like when you can take two or more elements and combine them to make another.
Too many, trim it down. >arcane >fire >water (includes ice) >air (includes lightning) >nature (includes poison. also includes earth, deal with it) >holy (includes light) >dark (includes chaos. void is gay so I'm not including it) >split physical arts into two trees so that the musclebrains don't feel left out
Force wasn't wind-themed until Nocturne, it was originally supposed to be energy impact damage. Persona 2 had both Garu and Zan, with Zan being Almighty for single targets, with Megido being Almighty for all targets.
>only bosses get to use the anti-everything element >you cannot defend against it >there's literally no point to stacking any other resistance against the normal enemies
I like how Etrian Odyssey uses untyped damage >very high mana costs >balanced so that it does more damage than regular elemental skills on a neutral enemy with zero setup >any kind of scaling makes elemental damage better unless it's being resisted >only a handful of enemies use it in each game, and only ever as a gimmick
>Physical >Fire >Ice >Lightning >Water >Wind >Earth >Dark >Light >secondary set of the same elements with different names that break regular element resiatances >Untyped >Percentage
Guess the game.
>cold/frost is an element
if lightning and fire get to be elements when they're just the presence of energy, the absence of energy should get to be one too
Not really when energy is just a state of flow. Stasis is as much an entity as dynamism which is to say, unlike light (particles) and dark (a lack of particles) the acquisition of energy and loss of energy is still relative to the typical amount of energy all relevant matter has. So rather than seeing one as a presence and thereby the other as a lack of the same presence and therefore the same element, see each as a different school one representing 'things that remove energy' and 'things that apply energy'.
In fact, aren't they also different in physics? Aren't there contrary forces such as dark energy and entropy (among others) that dictate the nature by which energy is introduced as well as dispersed.
If the definition of element in this context is an aspect of nature, then all that is natural is an element, even then it's not unreasonable to think an element could be artificial if sentient life has such an effect on itself.
Another stupid thing is separating water and ice from each other. Shit is just bloat imo.
Should be just like how sometimes air and lightning is lumped together.
No, they aren't. They're aspects of FORCE which is comprised of more than cutting/piercing - principally concussion. Cutting being the shittiest and most limited aspect, barely holding on to relevance because materials that oppose concussive and piercing force can often be cut.
Blunt is a forgivable misnomer. Piercing also includes stuff like arrows, for example and cutting claws. While it's easy to categorize them as melee weapons it's needlessly limiting. Strictly piercing could be defined as a force with a relatively small point bearing area or foci. "Blunt" implies blunt trauma which is fair enough but concussion covers both that and explosives - "indirect" force like TK/Wind/Sonic ect. ect.
>Cutting being the shittiest and most limited aspect, barely holding on to relevance because materials that oppose concussive and piercing force can often be cut.
Cutting inherently does more damage to enemies without natural armor than any other Force damage-type. It's just most armors are built to resist Cut damage specifically.
Especially since Cut almost always causes the Bleed status effect, or even Infection.
That is why i prefer it being a damage type. >Attacks deal different types of damage. >Some axe attacks deal both blunt and/or cutting >Spears are mostly cutting and piercing. >Maces are almost exclusively blunt with the occasional pierce. >Swords a can deal all kinds of damage, finishing your fow rightly. >Fire punches deal both blunt and fire.
I'm working on something that does away with that typing. When you look at it logically for example you have to acknowledge that while both cleave an axe is different from a sword no? And in effect is more akin to a club or mace which is why you called it blunt despite there being nothing close to blunt force involved in an axe head.
Damage needs to be split 2 ways, delivery and type.
If you're looking to categorise weapons then an axe is a lever/cleaving weapon whereas a saber is a blade/cleaving weapon. The other category of delivery, incidentally, being point/haft such as spears. Each type haft/blade/lever as different method of generating and delivering force which in turn caps the power they're capable of as well as generally dictating the 'movesets' of any weapon using said delivery method.
I'd rather not go too much further into mechanics but suffice to say this can be added to the mechanics fairly easily enhancing the gameplay and adding realism.
Quad amputee is a surgeon that was in a rigged card accident
Blackjack performed surgery on him to allow the attachment of prosthetics on all 4 limbs so that he can continue to operate on people.
Found out who rigged the accident, went full vengeance.
It's a little hard to understand if you don't have a visual representation cheatsheet like your image. The only triangle that really makes sense is how wood feeds fire but is killed by water.
Wrong, the elements themselves barely represents actual elements and its more about emotion. >Candy is Sanguine (social and energetic) >Ice being Melancholic (quiet and analytical) >Fire being Choleric (aggressive and irritable) >Slime being Phlegmatic (relaxed and peaceful).
And Ice Elementals always tend to be the fricking morons because they hate change. Its in their nature
Ok Black folk. I read through this thread and now we will do science. Because your magic definitions are shit. You want science? You get it. Pick your poison.
>Fire magic
Fire is plasma. Plasma can be generated either by heat or by high potential, aka voltage.
So it's either a heat mage in reality, a lightning mage with potential or some sort of alchemist that can conjure and combust some gas.
The last explanation is the most lame one though. >Water magic
Either manipulation of water or liquids, due to telekinesis or something, or conjuring of water. Both are different. Conjuring is better but based on setting isn't it kinda broken to conjure matter out of nothing? >Earth magic
Either telekinesis or some sort of magnetism. Conjuring earth is weird. >Magma
Combination of heat + telekinesis. >Lightning
Potential generated plasma. No relation with other elements whatever. Might be somewhat related to magnetism. >Air
Pure telekinesis. If lightning is generated is purely by chance. Moving air doesnt grant oyu power of lightning. Worse than earth? >Ice
Either some option to conjure and transform water into ice, or a way to drain heat. So basically opposite of heat magic. The second type would be the most broken one since you cant only freeze water, but also air, people, and basically create negative energy giving you immunity pretty much to everything as long as your negative energy is higher than the hit you take
>okay guis, here to learn you about some things! >hurr durr plasma and telekinesis!
Damn anon, when the frick did you get all smart on us all of sudden?
Well one of them is power to separate electrons from atoms
Other is the power to move objects
Everything else is built upon those things.
You can't have fire as fire. It's not fire
>he got the order wrong
That triggers my autism. My headcanon gives great meaning to the order.
A - reality (internal law/temporal causality)
AWEF- physical (elemental forces produced by causality)
nd - abstract (complex interactions produced by elemental material)
B - unreality (external interaction/tangential causality)
I don't think we are. Think about it anon, what does astral primarily concern itself with? Prescience, luck, divination and pure magic.
Air, Earth, Water, Fire are pretty by the numbers and, by their nature make up the physical world.
Nature and Death are a result of said world and deal, not with the purely energetic or material but with organics a complex product of all elemental force.
Finally you have Blood which deals with extra-dimensional forces almost exclusively be it gates to dimensions or pacts with the demons that live there.
It's such an elegant system. And they DO refer to it in order if they're no separating it into elemental and sorcery further illustrating the difference between the fundamental and abstract types.
Its also called Flying in jap.
Pokemon is moronic because it describes elemental types alongside monster types.
Dragon is a element, and Draco Meteor throws rocks.
There is literally a Dragon God of the Underworld and you say there is life in him? Where the frick are you getting your conclusions?
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>There is literally a Dragon [HEADCANON]
Giratina just looks weird he is not literally the devil
2 years ago
Anonymous
I never said he was the devil, just that he is the god of the dimension he lives in.
If any type is "Life" its probably grass or fairy, not dragon. Almost all Dragon moves are attack moves.
>be radiationmancer >fully armored warrior charges at me with an axe >i pick up the demon core and a screwdriver wand and throw a "spell" at him >nothing happens, he just cuts my head off and leaves >3 months later he dies of cancer
>magic
Already covered by psychic and fairy >cosmic
Psychic again >shadow
Already covered by dark and ghost >sound
Covered by normal but at this point it really should be its own type
>game has a secret "dark element" >no one can prove it exists definitively but will belittle you if you tell them it doesn't exist and they just got their math wrong
>homosexual elements
Water
Air
Fire
Earth >Gigachad elements
Ballistic
Plasma
Incendiary
Armor piercing
Corrosive
Poisoned
Radiation
American Patriotism(Supreme element that rules over all others)
no they aren't, all those things in your image may have fancy names but in reality they're featureless little units of matter completely indistinguishable from each other
>they're featureless little units of matter completely indistinguishable from each other
Except that's wrong. They're not as much matter as they are units. They're properties of... fields. Something that makes up the entire universe. But only those with fractional spin are truly "matter". Because they can't just stack upon each other in the same spot. It's all so fascinating.
Except they only fuse by a factor means you can only fuse 2 hydrogens into helium, 2 helium into beryllium but they are rather unstable as isotope so the next one would be oxygen and so on, so its 1,2, 4, 8, 16 and so on
This smarmy shit always pisses me off. They named the modern elements after the alchemical elements because they were the "building blocks everything is made from". Now c**ts like you pretend our ancestors were morons for using the word element wrong.
And you're even more blind because the 4 classical western elements clearly match up to the four states of matter.
Earth=Solids
Water=Liquids
Air=Gases
Fire=Plasmas
>4 classical western elements clearly match up to the four states of matter
What about quark-gluon plasma, Bose-Einstein condensate, time crystals, strange matter, and all the other states of matter?
Anyway, you missed the point. Being "elemental" is not about the state of matter, it's about being truly "atomic", i.e. indivisible. That's what the quanta of QFT fields are. Well, at least in theory. I wouldn't be surprised if the fine structure of the universe goes even deeper. But for now, those are truly the building blocks of the universe that can neither be reduced any further, nor they're a combination of each other.
Despite coming in for the extreme fanservice, I really liked the idea of an action series where the powers were the elements of the periodic table. I dont suppose there are any games out there that go in depth like this or use the periodic table in some way, right?
>there is a grand total of one way to imbue a weapon with holy element >it's a consumable item, it can't be bought from shops, no enemy drops it and there's less than a handful to be found throughout the entire game
Has there ever been a RPG that uses the actual fundamental forces in physics as types? >gravitational >electromagnetic >strong nuclear >weak nuclear didn't read all of the thread sorry if it's already been mentioned
Combustion - Fire
Liquids - Water
Pressure - Air
Minerals and metals - Earth
Electromagnetic - Lightning
Biologic - Nature and Necro
There i fixed your elemental names.
In the Avatar series, its implied Advanced Wind is capable of vacuum.
And Advanced Water is just... strong waterbending, capable of manipulation blood, plant sap and any kind of liquid.
no, you don't get it. obviously i get the difference in a game. but in reality, it doesn't make sense because ice and water are the same thing in real life
>it doesn't make sense because ice and water are the same thing in real life
I can beat you to death with a block of ice, but not with a handful of water. How's that for making sense?
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Anonymous
your ice is just cold water. it's not a new element. if you want to be realistic your element would be "cold", not strictly water that's been chilled
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fire is just hot air.
2 years ago
Anonymous
right, so again if we want to be "realistic" the element would be called Heat, not strictly Fire.
I hope he beats you with his ice
stay mad, you know i'm right
2 years ago
Anonymous
shaddap u stink I just want him to beat you to death with ice
2 years ago
Anonymous
*teleports behind u and uses Heat to convert your stupid ice to water and then air*
heh nuthin personnel kiddo
Plasma (Fire, Lightning, Heat)
Water (Including Natute, Ice, Steam, Acid, Liquid Poison)
Wind (Including Gases)
Earth (Including Metal, and Magma)
Cellular (Healing and Shapeshifting)
Sound (Anti-magic and auditory illusions)
Light (Visual illusions and Light based attacks)
Dark (Raw physical matter and Gravity)
Atomic (Teleportation and Death magic)
lmao this mofo thinks air and lightning are the same thing
op's avatar is literally a moron that got manipulated , no wonder why his takes are putrid garbage that not even game critics give a frick about
Who is she?
marcille from dungeon meshi
*Mulecille as she's a half-elf
>avatar
lmao, tourists these days make literally zero effort to not immediately frick up
There's no consequence to fricking up here. For all I know, you're actually the same guy making a weird self-aware joke but pretending to be someone else. That's probably not the case, but the point still stands that you're a queer.
Nah, marking the signs of a tourist is a good thing. Gatekeeping is important. Another example is seething about anime on an anime website. Immediate give away.
are you fricking moronic? he obviously was calling out gay OP for avatargayging. go sit in the corner summergay. never post again
only millennials use the term avatar yoi moron zoomers call it pfp
>he doesn't breathe in lightning
Deep throat marcille ears.
What a horrible art style.
>What a horrible artstyle.
Huh? It's cute. I don't even understand how you could hate this.
>i have no taste and i must shitpost
What a horrible opinion.
>rock and ground are separate types
>fire
>air
>water
>poison
Earth, water, fire, metal, wood
>fire
>lightning
>magic
>poison
It makes since given the Dark Souls lore. Magic comes from the common soul mist creatures possess, lightning is a miracle derived from the great soul of Gwyn, pyromancy from the corrupted great soul of the Witch of Izalith. Poison is the only weird one since it’s also associated with pyromancy but Demon’s Souls implies poison is associated with sin and impurity which fits the backstory for the Witch of Izalith pretty well thematically
That's not Dark Souls. Poison isn't the same mechanic as elemental damage except in Sekiro. The game that's from is Blasphemous.
Also, the reason pyromancy has all that extra stuff is that in the original Japanese it's not "pyromancy" but just a type of curse magic. It would be more accurate to call it something like witchcraft.
THE FOUR FIENDS OF THE ELEMENTS
RUBICANTE OF FIRE
BARBARICCA OF THE WIND
CAGNAZZO OF WATER
SCARMIGLIONE OF POISON
makes sense
earth damage is just physical
And water and air aren't?
>WATER, FIRE, AIR AND DIRT
>FRICKIN MAGNETS, HOW DO THEY WORK
Nuva masks on Mata figures looks uncanny to me. Please fix this.
Anyway,
>fire
>air
>earth
>water
>stone
>ice
>light
>shadow
>sonics
>gravity
>plasma
>magnetism
>>>>>>>>>the green
>lightning
>iron
>psionics
Don't forget Rock and Sand, elements exclusive to Bara Magna!
Rock was 100% the same as Stone, though, right? Just a different term. And Sand makes sense as a separate element element, because even though it's obviously the same physical substance, the overall properties are very different.
Ambiguous on the Rock/Stone thing, pretty sure that's just the community going "nah we good, we all agree on this right?" instead of any real distinction. I mean, why the different names then? And I agree with Sand, but it was still forgotten initially 🙂
>And I agree with Sand, but it was still forgotten initially 🙂
I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
Was there ever an explanation as to why Pohatu looked like that?
The toy came with a "rock" that the figure could kick by twisting the gear on his butt. This feature wouldn't be possible without inverting his torso. Canonically, he looks more normal in the story, i.e. in the Mask of Life movie.
he kick good and run fast. Big honkin legs. No other explanation needed.
So he can SCORE SUM FACKING GOALS, CAM ON PO-WAHI!!!
>
>water, ice, and steam are all different
>Fire and Lava are seperate elements
Yes, if anything lava should be lumped in with Earth
And fire should be lumped in with air.
Fire has nothing to do with air.
>b-but you can't light them without air
a) wrong
b) how are you going to light them without a fuel source
Fire is a reaction, not a material.
>Fire is a reaction, not a material
ok, what would your magic elements be then?
some "matter and energy" shit? that's boring
No Black person. Obviously, lava attacks come from combining earth magic and fire magic.
Huh reminds me Phantasy Star Universe earth element was pretty much this
What element should a Volcano spell be under, Fire or Earth?
Anything related to molten rock/magma/lava should be a combination element, very much like how some games handle weaknesses and resistances a combination element should follow the same formula. An enemy weak to earth would take double damage, an enemy weak to earth but resists fire would take neutral damage, an enemy weak to both earth and fire would take quadruple damage while an enemy that resists both earth and fire should take a quarter of the damage
Combining elements is something I wish games did more often
I mean if rocks to melt are already underground, then you are only using extrime heat to create magma. But you also need to make the upwards hole in the tectonic whatever, (I don't remember the terminology). And that's just moving earth around. So both.
Neither, all your so-called "elements" are just varying degrees of heat and matter
This homie be trying to convince us that ice and lava are the same thing mechanically just because they're both made of atoms.
It should be a hybrid element of fire and earth.
I fricking love element charts
Earth type spell that inflicts fire type damage
A volcano spell is a volcano spell. You don’t hear geologists debating if a volcano is more «earth» than «fire» now, do you? It’s all magic.
>dark and ghost are different elements
Dark is the evil no good grifter type that sends you constant scam texts and phone calls.
Ghost is dead stuff.
No shit they're unrelated.
If Dark is evil, then where is light?
Also Bug is a element.
Fighting is "light" in that it is a hero type. 'S why it beats dark.
"Bug" was so stupid as a type in Pokemon. All the attacks should basically fall under Normal or Poison. What makes "bugs" special as opposed to birds, mammals, or reptiles?
Bird is also a type. Flying was prototyped as "bird" type.
Well obviously that didn't make the cut so it's irrelevant.
The reason "Rock" has a different name is because it's based on the Rock Tribe, a group of people, rather than the actual element itself. When the Great Beings were designing the Matoran Universe, they named it Stone after the actual element itself.
I forgot to add this: All the different Tribes on Spherus Magna were named after the biomes they lived in, long before the idea of elemental powers was even dreamed up by the Great Beings. Obviously Rock and Stone are interchangeable terms, but the Rock Tribe lived in rocky mountains and that's just what they went with to describe themselves. As for why the real-life Story Team changed the term, there's basically no reason other than making Bara Magna feel a little more different.
ANOTHER thing I have to add is that sand, in real life, is the result of coastal erosion after millions and millions of years of rocks being broken apart by the sea. The Matoran Universe is a relatively new object, and everything inside it is artificial, so it doesn't really make sense for Sand to exist inside it at all.
Bugs are heroes thanks to kamen rider
Why do you think bug is strong against dark/evil type
Light is just the absence of dark
The english localization for pokemon its moronic
In all the other languages the "dark" type its actually the "evil" type
Thats why ghost its weak to dark
One revolves around the "energy" related to an absence of light. The other revolves around lingering paranormal energy from "the other side."
>Black folk and dead people are the same thing
In a perfect world maybe
lightning is technically fire, if you think about physics of it
lightning is plasma
So is a flame if it gets hot enough
Yes but flame can conduct electricity but doesn't contain a large amount of current flowing through it. Lightning I'd plasma + current
>there are seperate elements
>earth is weak to wind
Never heard of erosion?
a process that takes years, real weak
>i am a complete moron
Wind blows away the nutrient-rich soil layer if there haven't been any rains, making it barren and unfit to support life. Wind also changes the terrain of deserts, shifting entire dunes from place to place.
>namegay being a complete braindead Black person
checks out
>Stone golems take more damage from an attack called gust than from an attack called molten meteor storm because, well the wind can blow sand around sometimes okay?
>balancing your combat system around geological processes that take thousands of years
Yes? Classical elemental systems were based on what older cultures thought were the fundamental forces of existence. Fantasy elements flow from them. A wind spell is not a mild breeze, it's a massive magically-empowered expulsion of air all at once. You're looking at hurricane force winds and tornadoes at the weakest.
done by water, mostly
Air flow = water flow = wind
Wind doesn't erode. The particles (earth) in the wind do the erosion.
>e-girls are weak to anal
Many such cases...
name five
but skip the first one
bye, b***h
Fire is weak to water
Water is weak to earth
Earth is weak to wind
Wind is weak to fire
what about wood
Strong winds blows rocks, what the frick can rocks do to wind?
*blocks your path*
>can only stay in defense mode
nice element
stop replying to my post you fricking homos
its been 11 hours
I needed 11 hours to make my post
moron
reee
Neither one of those are elements you moron.
>Element - Dark
>implying light and dark aren't abstract labels referring to the injection or retraction of pure magic
Why do you think light is associated with pure force like shields and enhancement like healing and buffs? It's just augmenting and energizing the existing matter. Dark is the direct opposite in that it disperses magic and deteriorates the nature physical function of things it comes into contact with - hence 'undead' being a state of dark magic and the strongest undead immortals being masters of the dark arts.
What do you think electricity is, buddy? It's not air. Rather, depending on the lore of the system fire, air, earth and water should translate to energy, gas, solid and liquid respectively. That makes more sense - and in my far more sensible system electricity is actually a type of fire magic.
>love is an element
>he doesn't recognize noos and anima as a fundamental element of life
Indeed. Desire is the beginning of life and thought its apex. Honestly love should come under 'thought' or 'nature' in terms of elements.
Lightning and fire are both energetic reactions and not matter in a stable state. That's the fundamental difference. You're trying to compare verbs to nouns.
>noose, the troony element
makes sense, but I don't want it in my games
name 1 game
:^)
Mega Man Battle Network 4
in christian and greek mythology love is a force of nature provided by gods and that men are only able to feel due to their graces
>hate is an element
Well yes. Didn't you watch the animes?
Hatred gives you x10 power boost, if it's NTR it increases to x20
>he's never watched captain planet
baka
>Void is an element
stupid homosexual b***h. die.
>Light is an element
Light is the COOLEST element fight me homosexual
>Aether is an element
>Entropy is an element
anyone else play that game?
Was that the digital tcg with way too many elements and slightly scuffed artwork? I forget what it was called but I remember doing weird shit with Schrodinger’s cat.
>tcg
>Schrodinger’s cat
Sounds like a trap card you'd find in Yu-Gi-Oh
>Air+Water=Ice
>Air+Fire=Lightning
>Air+Earth=Poison
>Water+Earth=Life
>Water+Fire=Death
>Earth+Fire=Metal
That is all
>Water+Earth=Life
>Water+Fire=Death
>Earth+Fire=Metal
Fricking moronic. End yourself.
That makes me realise how weird it is that the elemental trinity in a bunch of Fire Emblem games is Wind, Lightning and Fire.
Earth
Nature (plants)
Fire
Lightning
Water
Ice
Wind
Holy
Dark
Poison
Pyschic
Tech
Cosmic
Necromancy
(alternatively life and death)
Arcane (non-elemental but magic based)
Shapeshifting
Beast Control
Summoning
Chi/Martial Arts Technique
Chaos/Void
Am I missing any? I like when you can take two or more elements and combine them to make another.
Too many, trim it down.
>arcane
>fire
>water (includes ice)
>air (includes lightning)
>nature (includes poison. also includes earth, deal with it)
>holy (includes light)
>dark (includes chaos. void is gay so I'm not including it)
>split physical arts into two trees so that the musclebrains don't feel left out
>nature
>includes earth
Geological events and plantlife are interconnected.
Forest fires and plantlife are also interconnected, that's a weak argument
also
>nature
>only includes plantlife
oh shit, homie, what are you doing?
The post I replied to didn't have mind magic so I didn't bother including it in my post. Either way, deal with it homosexual.
dragon and fairy
>Earth
>Fire
>Water
>Air
>Milla Jovovich
You fool, the fifth element was love!
Sauce?
Forgot what it's from but I still have the page I cropped for it saved so you should be able to find it with this
https://files.catbox.moe/pd8vda.png
saws?
Yes.. they are also separate in real life
When's this getting a full anime? It's so good.
What is this animation from? Id love to see a dngeon meshi anime
It's just a fan animation. Dungeon Meshi will never get an anime because anime onlys don't deserve ANYTHING
ENTER
LUNA
SALAMANDER
GNOME
DYRAD
UNDINE
DJINN
WILL O'WISP
SHADE
Djinn has cute moobs
Moon is the most based element of all time.
LoM is a good game in its own right, but it's a shame that it replaced Moon with Gold.
>air+earth=dust
>air+water=mist
>air+fire=smoke
>earth+water=mud
>earth+fire=lava
>water+fire=steam
>Drill is an Element
>It's Limitless
in alchemy the four spirits are gnomes(earth), undines(water), sylph(wind, and salamander(Fire)
>Time is an element
why did you have to remind me that skelebro is on hiatus?
Japan truly is a degenerate and godless country
>original element with a wacky name
Didn't Dragonfable have Bacon as an element
>Water is the healing element
>When plant/nature exist
Oh yes just moisten my ass instead of using plant remedies
>get poisoned
>do a gastric lavage to remove it
It just works
Clearly Earth is the healing element.
>Get poisoned
>Take activated charcoal
What element do activated almonds fall under
chaos
You Black person, I was going to make that joke
>he doesn't wash his wounds
>he doesn't relax in pools of water
NGMI
>game has both shadow and dread element
>game has both toxic and disease status
>smt force
>persona wind
how are they not the same thing, why are they separate, a great mystery
Force wasn't wind-themed until Nocturne, it was originally supposed to be energy impact damage. Persona 2 had both Garu and Zan, with Zan being Almighty for single targets, with Megido being Almighty for all targets.
>game has enemies with standard element weaknesses and attacks
>game also has a special element that's strong against everything
>only bosses get to use the anti-everything element
>you cannot defend against it
>there's literally no point to stacking any other resistance against the normal enemies
Allmighty damage serves its purpose in megaten games.
I like how Etrian Odyssey uses untyped damage
>very high mana costs
>balanced so that it does more damage than regular elemental skills on a neutral enemy with zero setup
>any kind of scaling makes elemental damage better unless it's being resisted
>only a handful of enemies use it in each game, and only ever as a gimmick
>game has Shadow as an element
>its only wielder is a degenerate that uses it to peek at panties instead of instantly winning every fight
What game
in tales of xillia, fire+wind creates lightining artes.
>says lightning
>it's actually a asiatic missinterpretation of electricity
/thread
>Physical
>Fire
>Ice
>Lightning
>Water
>Wind
>Earth
>Dark
>Light
>secondary set of the same elements with different names that break regular element resiatances
>Untyped
>Percentage
Guess the game.
>darkness/shadow is an element
>cold/frost is an element
>void is an element
>cold/frost is an element
if lightning and fire get to be elements when they're just the presence of energy, the absence of energy should get to be one too
Presence is a lot more substantive than absence!
Not really when energy is just a state of flow. Stasis is as much an entity as dynamism which is to say, unlike light (particles) and dark (a lack of particles) the acquisition of energy and loss of energy is still relative to the typical amount of energy all relevant matter has. So rather than seeing one as a presence and thereby the other as a lack of the same presence and therefore the same element, see each as a different school one representing 'things that remove energy' and 'things that apply energy'.
In fact, aren't they also different in physics? Aren't there contrary forces such as dark energy and entropy (among others) that dictate the nature by which energy is introduced as well as dispersed.
>earth does elemental damage when actually youre just throwing rocks at people
>wind damage
>you just drop people from great heights onto earth
>a "Wood" element
>water and ice are separate elements
>fire isn't weak to ice attacks
>element is just "dragon"
>dragons use dragon
>dragons are also often weak to dragon
>dragon weakness isn't tincans with long lances
Thats a very eastern looking western dragon
>everything is a single substance
Fire. Triangle pointing up. The wand. The lion. Hot/dry. Active. Salamanders. Michael.
Earth triangle pointing down with a line through it. The pentangle. The ox. Dry/cold. Passive. Gnomes. Uriel.
Water. Triangle pointing down. The chalice. The eagle. Cold/moist. Passive. UnMuriel. Gabriel.
Air. Triangle pointing up with a line through it. The sword. The angel. Moist/hot. Active. Slyphs. Raphael.
>UnMuriel
Meant to be undynes.
>Fire
>Water
>Earth
>Light
>Dark
If the definition of element in this context is an aspect of nature, then all that is natural is an element, even then it's not unreasonable to think an element could be artificial if sentient life has such an effect on itself.
Another stupid thing is separating water and ice from each other. Shit is just bloat imo.
Should be just like how sometimes air and lightning is lumped together.
>earth element has plant magic
I like how they did the elements in the Sorcerer Apprentice
>Fire
>Ice
>Poison
>Disease
>"Magic"
>grass element
>not wood
>not plant
>grass
>Lightning and Fire are both the same element
last airbender got that right
is that because they are both energy?
Earth: solid
Water: liquid
Air: gas
Fire: plasma
What we observe as lightning is also a plasma.
>fire
>plasma
Yep, that's right.
no, plasma is a state of matter. fire is a chemical reaction
Fire is a form of plasma created by a chemical reaction.
wrong
I didn't ask for your opinion.
i'n not telling you my opinion, i'm informing you that you have no idea what fire or plasma is if you think they are the same
>Poison, Venom and Toxic are different elements
>2020+6-4
>people still cannot tell apart venomous from poisonous
most languages don't even make that distinction
Most languages prohibit their speakers from attaining higher cognitive functions.
>'posioned" and "diseased" are different status effects
guess the game
Demon’s Souls?
Maybe?
I dont know any vidya made after 2006
one of the enemies is a walking trashbin
Final Fantasy V, VI, OR VII?
nope
Cool
Anyway, elf rape
>rock beats thunder
Fire and lava are different Bro
I want to impregnate Marcille
Female mules can very rarely be impregnated
There is a chance
Rate my element list
>Fire (Heat, burning, and melting stuff)
>Ice (Cold, Freezing)
>Electricity (Shocking, Paralyzing, Powering/Overloading Machinery)
>Wind (Blowing/Moving stuff from distance, flying, force, sucking air from lungs)
>Water (Drowning, tsunamis, flooding, making stuff wet to increase shocking/freezing potency)
>Toxic (Poison, disease, debuffing, corrosive, degenerating cells)
>Dark (Evil, mind-rotting/damaging, influencing mortal beings, potent to holy supernatural beings)
>Light (Blinding, lasers, life, holy, potent to evil supernatural beings)
>Physical Cutting (Swords, spears, other sharp/prickly means of inflicting pain)
>Physical Impact (Punching/Kicking, Using blunt weaponry like bats and hammers, hitting with boulders/earthquakes)
>fire, water, air, and dirt
FRICKING MAGNETS
HOW DO THEY WORK?
>ice magic can freeze time
>fire magic specializes on buffing party members by getting them fired up
>piercing and cutting are separate elements
Piercing and cutting are different. That's pretty obvious when you can collect materials better suited to resisting one over the other.
They're both aspects of sharp.
No, they aren't. They're aspects of FORCE which is comprised of more than cutting/piercing - principally concussion. Cutting being the shittiest and most limited aspect, barely holding on to relevance because materials that oppose concussive and piercing force can often be cut.
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in that case
>piercing and cutting and blunt are separate elements
>blunt force is also separated into thrust and smash
I never understand why Cold Steel went down that route
>blunt is separate from smash
You've got to be kidding me.
Blunt is a forgivable misnomer. Piercing also includes stuff like arrows, for example and cutting claws. While it's easy to categorize them as melee weapons it's needlessly limiting. Strictly piercing could be defined as a force with a relatively small point bearing area or foci. "Blunt" implies blunt trauma which is fair enough but concussion covers both that and explosives - "indirect" force like TK/Wind/Sonic ect. ect.
force is just what science copers call the element of air
>Cutting being the shittiest and most limited aspect, barely holding on to relevance because materials that oppose concussive and piercing force can often be cut.
Cutting inherently does more damage to enemies without natural armor than any other Force damage-type. It's just most armors are built to resist Cut damage specifically.
Especially since Cut almost always causes the Bleed status effect, or even Infection.
That is why i prefer it being a damage type.
>Attacks deal different types of damage.
>Some axe attacks deal both blunt and/or cutting
>Spears are mostly cutting and piercing.
>Maces are almost exclusively blunt with the occasional pierce.
>Swords a can deal all kinds of damage, finishing your fow rightly.
>Fire punches deal both blunt and fire.
I'm working on something that does away with that typing. When you look at it logically for example you have to acknowledge that while both cleave an axe is different from a sword no? And in effect is more akin to a club or mace which is why you called it blunt despite there being nothing close to blunt force involved in an axe head.
Damage needs to be split 2 ways, delivery and type.
If you're looking to categorise weapons then an axe is a lever/cleaving weapon whereas a saber is a blade/cleaving weapon. The other category of delivery, incidentally, being point/haft such as spears. Each type haft/blade/lever as different method of generating and delivering force which in turn caps the power they're capable of as well as generally dictating the 'movesets' of any weapon using said delivery method.
I'd rather not go too much further into mechanics but suffice to say this can be added to the mechanics fairly easily enhancing the gameplay and adding realism.
Yes, piercing (stabbing) is different from cutting (slashing)
what in the frick is the context of this clip
that most anime is fricking moronic
silence, ironic anti-weeb
nah im as weeb as they get, but even I have to admit that most of the stuff is fricking stupid
i don't think the clip you're complaining about is supposed to be serious
silence, ironic anti-weeb
Quad amputee is a surgeon that was in a rigged card accident
Blackjack performed surgery on him to allow the attachment of prosthetics on all 4 limbs so that he can continue to operate on people.
Found out who rigged the accident, went full vengeance.
>Odin is an element
lightning is air + fire, hth
>Wind and Electric are separate elements
>Gravity and Nuclear are also elements that exist alongside these
>math is an element(al modifier)
Air, lets you blow things away
Lightning, lets you BLOW THINGS AWAY
>time is an element
>distance isn't
Pretty sure space is an element
>space, time and gravity are an element
you literally cannot name even one game
Final fantasy
Everyone knows it goes
>Earth
>Wind
>Fire
>Ba-dee-ya
Why are fire and air two separate elements if fire cannot exist without air? If anything, fire is a sub-element of air.
It's from a time when people thought the sun was fire
If the sun isn't fire, then why is it hot? Checkmate, atheists.
The only games I can think of where they're under the same element is Tactics Ogre and Megaman Zero/ZX
What do you guys think of the canonical chinese elements?
>wood, earth, metal
Something has got to have been lost in translation, this doesn't make any sense.
It makes a lot of sense once you hear how the elements are viewed.
its bullshit, the official alchemical elements are air, water, fire, earth + aether
In western lore yeah, but not in eastern lore.
add rock
How would the generation arrows fit into a video game?
Kinda cool but more suited to esoteric martial arts bullshit than spellcasting.
>more suited to esoteric martial arts
what, how?
>esoteric martial arts bullshit than spellcasting.
they're the same thing though
It's a little hard to understand if you don't have a visual representation cheatsheet like your image. The only triangle that really makes sense is how wood feeds fire but is killed by water.
>wood beats fire
>fire image is literally wood on fire
?????
the worst elements gotta be adventure time's
>fire, water/ice, nature and "candy" (lol so wacky)
What does the candy element do? How powerful is a candymancer?
can conjure candy and create living candy folk. Not very powerful in the cartoon
Wrong, the elements themselves barely represents actual elements and its more about emotion.
>Candy is Sanguine (social and energetic)
>Ice being Melancholic (quiet and analytical)
>Fire being Choleric (aggressive and irritable)
>Slime being Phlegmatic (relaxed and peaceful).
And Ice Elementals always tend to be the fricking morons because they hate change. Its in their nature
What about the lumps?
Anti-Elemental. All Lumps are self-centered and have awful personalities.
It's not nature. It's slime
even worse
>Synthesis is an element
Ok Black folk. I read through this thread and now we will do science. Because your magic definitions are shit. You want science? You get it. Pick your poison.
>Fire magic
Fire is plasma. Plasma can be generated either by heat or by high potential, aka voltage.
So it's either a heat mage in reality, a lightning mage with potential or some sort of alchemist that can conjure and combust some gas.
The last explanation is the most lame one though.
>Water magic
Either manipulation of water or liquids, due to telekinesis or something, or conjuring of water. Both are different. Conjuring is better but based on setting isn't it kinda broken to conjure matter out of nothing?
>Earth magic
Either telekinesis or some sort of magnetism. Conjuring earth is weird.
>Magma
Combination of heat + telekinesis.
>Lightning
Potential generated plasma. No relation with other elements whatever. Might be somewhat related to magnetism.
>Air
Pure telekinesis. If lightning is generated is purely by chance. Moving air doesnt grant oyu power of lightning. Worse than earth?
>Ice
Either some option to conjure and transform water into ice, or a way to drain heat. So basically opposite of heat magic. The second type would be the most broken one since you cant only freeze water, but also air, people, and basically create negative energy giving you immunity pretty much to everything as long as your negative energy is higher than the hit you take
>okay guis, here to learn you about some things!
>hurr durr plasma and telekinesis!
Damn anon, when the frick did you get all smart on us all of sudden?
Well one of them is power to separate electrons from atoms
Other is the power to move objects
Everything else is built upon those things.
You can't have fire as fire. It's not fire
Telekinesis isn’t real, dumbass
In irl occult stuff it’s:
Fire - Will, sexuality, impulse
Water - emotions
Air - thoughts
Earth - reality
>fire
>air
>water
>earth
>astral
>death
>nature
>blood
>he got the order wrong
That triggers my autism. My headcanon gives great meaning to the order.
A - reality (internal law/temporal causality)
AWEF- physical (elemental forces produced by causality)
nd - abstract (complex interactions produced by elemental material)
B - unreality (external interaction/tangential causality)
we're either talking about different games, or you're an insane moron
I don't think we are. Think about it anon, what does astral primarily concern itself with? Prescience, luck, divination and pure magic.
Air, Earth, Water, Fire are pretty by the numbers and, by their nature make up the physical world.
Nature and Death are a result of said world and deal, not with the purely energetic or material but with organics a complex product of all elemental force.
Finally you have Blood which deals with extra-dimensional forces almost exclusively be it gates to dimensions or pacts with the demons that live there.
It's such an elegant system. And they DO refer to it in order if they're no separating it into elemental and sorcery further illustrating the difference between the fundamental and abstract types.
you're literally wrong about the order, I checked it while I was posting to make sure that I wrote it right.
Yeah I have checked now too and I certainly was. That said you can see where I'm coming from in terms of the types of magic.
fire air water and earth are the only elemental runes
the others you posted are catalytic runes
No one is mentioning the worst offender
>technology as an element
>rock-type character
>damage scales with DEF/armor
>poison and venom are two different negative ailments
>sleep, paralysis, stasis, stun, freeze, root, confusion
>current year
>no one wants an element system with the element of Surprise
On come on
superior element chart coming through.
Primary elemental quad
>Fire
>Water
>Earth
>Wind
Secondary element quad
>Lightning
>Ice
>Dark
>Light
Tertiary elemental quad
>Time
>Death
>Gravity
>Aether/void
Is ice an element? Shouldn't it be like fire?
Basically fire makes things hot.
Ice makes thing cold. Opposite of fire.
S-tier fire magic can also melt metals and earth.
S-tier frost magic can freeze air and negate magic
They include cryogenesis and pyrogenesis, IE creating matter or energy out of your mana pool. If used together you have an ersatz water element.
aether/void is just light/dark but gay. make secondary lightning/ice/metal/nature
>Fire
>Ice
>Thunder
>Energy elements of destruction that combined creates Dark.
>Water
>Earth
>Wind
>Physical elements of life that combined creates Light.
It's so fricking simple and logical. Why no game uses this?
>ice is energy rather than wind
>thunder rather than lightning
>energy creates dark rather than light
Theres no logic here at all
THUNDER IS A NOISE DIPSHIT
This knife-eared HOOR is from Dungeon Meshi, if anyone is curious
Guys, what if
>Fire
>Water
>Grass
>Electric
>Dark
>Ghost
>Psychic
>Bug
>Dragon
>Fighting
>Normal
>Rock
>Ground
>Steel
>Poison
>Ice
>Flying
Im STILL waiting for dino type
>Flying
What's the unlocalized name for this type?
Levitation?
Its also called Flying in jap.
Pokemon is moronic because it describes elemental types alongside monster types.
Dragon is a element, and Draco Meteor throws rocks.
Dragon is the "life" elememt
It literally rains destruction and all dragon types are violent savage animals before tamed.
Yes
Because they have too much life force
There is literally a Dragon God of the Underworld and you say there is life in him? Where the frick are you getting your conclusions?
>There is literally a Dragon [HEADCANON]
Giratina just looks weird he is not literally the devil
I never said he was the devil, just that he is the god of the dimension he lives in.
If any type is "Life" its probably grass or fairy, not dragon. Almost all Dragon moves are attack moves.
>Nuclear is an element
Gamma radiation should be the highest form of light magic
>be radiationmancer
>fully armored warrior charges at me with an axe
>i pick up the demon core and a screwdriver wand and throw a "spell" at him
>nothing happens, he just cuts my head off and leaves
>3 months later he dies of cancer
Literally the only one of those types that makes sense is Sound
Magic, Cosmic, Sound, and Shadow all have reasonable arguments imo.
>magic
Already covered by psychic and fairy
>cosmic
Psychic again
>shadow
Already covered by dark and ghost
>sound
Covered by normal but at this point it really should be its own type
>Psychic again
?
Lunala, solgaleo, and those werid aliens from gen 5
They all are psychic
>Sex is a stat
>can only be lvl0 or lvl1
Oh oh
You can't trick me with this image, we know exactly what it really is
>anything other than fire, water, air, earth and spirit
>implying spirit isn't in opposition to the material, patiently waiting to be released and return to the source
That’s why you conquer the material elements before going above them in spirit
>all of those elements just do the same thing ie burn you or hit you really hard
>game has a secret "dark element"
>no one can prove it exists definitively but will belittle you if you tell them it doesn't exist and they just got their math wrong
>quantum element
>its actually an excuse for gacha
well played
>The only elements are Fire, Ice and Lightning
>elements
>Sound is a element
>burning and poison status are the same shit
Shit = Earth
Diarrhea = Water
Silent fart = Air
Loud fart = Fire
Fart after eating a lot of beans: poison
Constipation?
Either running out of mana or charging a really strong spell.
anti-magic
>Fantasy game
>magic is useless
>fire
>water
>air
>earth
>life
>death
>astral
>blood
Let me guess, you “need” more
>homosexual elements
Water
Air
Fire
Earth
>Gigachad elements
Ballistic
Plasma
Incendiary
Armor piercing
Corrosive
Poisoned
Radiation
American Patriotism(Supreme element that rules over all others)
I think it's a Japanese thing.
if i made a vidya the elements would be
>rust
>blood
>poison
>bone
>Smoke
>Neon
>Video
>Concrete
>Paper
>Neon
Infamous already did it
>tar
>trash
>electric
>flying
>electric
Pokémon was right.
>Holy/Light beats Dark
>nothing beats Holy
Radiation can counter Holy. Alcohol can counter Radiation.
Cosmic beats holy because it's superior, primal Version of holy
Void beats holy too because it's cosmic anti power
>Lightning is an earth elemental spell
>Wind is a wood elemental spell
Seems legit.
>Lightning is an earth elemental spell
This man gets it.
Thhis is fake, right?!
Real life elements are way more interesting than fantasy elements.
no they aren't, all those things in your image may have fancy names but in reality they're featureless little units of matter completely indistinguishable from each other
>they're featureless little units of matter completely indistinguishable from each other
Except that's wrong. They're not as much matter as they are units. They're properties of... fields. Something that makes up the entire universe. But only those with fractional spin are truly "matter". Because they can't just stack upon each other in the same spot. It's all so fascinating.
No they aren't.
>Fuse Hydrogen until it becomes whatever the frick you want.
Except they only fuse by a factor means you can only fuse 2 hydrogens into helium, 2 helium into beryllium but they are rather unstable as isotope so the next one would be oxygen and so on, so its 1,2, 4, 8, 16 and so on
Based. I wish there was a video game which plot involved some hard theoretical physics. A shame the majority of devs and writers are brainlets.
> higgers
The word is "higgs" you illiterate moron.
You're still a higger
This smarmy shit always pisses me off. They named the modern elements after the alchemical elements because they were the "building blocks everything is made from". Now c**ts like you pretend our ancestors were morons for using the word element wrong.
And you're even more blind because the 4 classical western elements clearly match up to the four states of matter.
Earth=Solids
Water=Liquids
Air=Gases
Fire=Plasmas
>4 classical western elements clearly match up to the four states of matter
What about quark-gluon plasma, Bose-Einstein condensate, time crystals, strange matter, and all the other states of matter?
Anyway, you missed the point. Being "elemental" is not about the state of matter, it's about being truly "atomic", i.e. indivisible. That's what the quanta of QFT fields are. Well, at least in theory. I wouldn't be surprised if the fine structure of the universe goes even deeper. But for now, those are truly the building blocks of the universe that can neither be reduced any further, nor they're a combination of each other.
I hope you die.
We all will, anon.
Not me
The water depends on the temperature.
It's important to note that the 4 classical elements were a conclusion they reached after literal generations of debate.
Man I wish I was an ancient greek arguing about IRL rpg tropes
>bottom is an element
>neverending turtles all the way down bullshit
Keep digging, you've almost got it figured out!
>another layer emerges
>le happy demiurge
>chaos as an element
go back to sucking dicks on reddit
>fire
>wind
>earth
>water
>lightning
>dark
>light
>brimstone
Those are all the elements you'll ever need
Ice < Fire < Water
air and lightning are not elements you moron
ok redcloak
nallor
Soulless
>sodium explodes on water
Bullshit system
>bio
>cyber
>necro
>plasma
>quantum
My game has lightning in the fire school of magic. Am I Hitler for this?
No, you're correct
>Alimony is an element
>You can't guard against it
Post good games that use elements you homosexuals. I fricking love elemental combinations.
>elemental combinations
Magicka
I also quite liked Elemental TD map back in WC3 days. But that's not really a game of its own.
Genshin Impact
XBC2
Noita.
Magicka
>Shadow beats Light
>Light beats Fiend
>Fiend beats Dream
>Dream beats Shadow
what the frick are "fiend" and "dream" supposed to be?
No, you're just another typical ATLA fan.
Dark B and Light B, ofc
Yikes.
>Earth, Wind and Fire get an affinity boost in September
>friendship is magic
Despite coming in for the extreme fanservice, I really liked the idea of an action series where the powers were the elements of the periodic table. I dont suppose there are any games out there that go in depth like this or use the periodic table in some way, right?
moron b***h come scuk my dick TRIHARD
>game has water and wind elements
>ice attacks are wind type
Nexomon is weird
Eeeh Nexomon was never meant to be serious anyway.
>enemy is weak to holy damage
>there are no holy attacks
>there is a grand total of one way to imbue a weapon with holy element
>there is a grand total of one way to imbue a weapon with holy element
>it's a consumable item, it can't be bought from shops, no enemy drops it and there's less than a handful to be found throughout the entire game
Wait did they make an anime of this?
Just a commercial for the manga volumes
Has there ever been a RPG that uses the actual fundamental forces in physics as types?
>gravitational
>electromagnetic
>strong nuclear
>weak nuclear
didn't read all of the thread sorry if it's already been mentioned
Dota 2 does it, though not RPG
Does it? wtf never noticed this.
Persona 1, in addition to dozens of other types.
>sword beats wind
>wind beats gun
>gun beats armor
>armor beats sword
Now this is kino
Over pressure beats everything.
Combustion - Fire
Liquids - Water
Pressure - Air
Minerals and metals - Earth
Electromagnetic - Lightning
Biologic - Nature and Necro
There i fixed your elemental names.
>use thunder
>shots lightning
>radon and radium are separate elements
how likely is it that any element higher atomic number than Uranium will ever be useful to us?
>Physical, Piercing, Bleed, Fire, Cold, Lightning, Acid, Vitality, Chaos, Aether
>Lighting and light are separate elements
>The elements Fire, Holy, and Light all exist
>Sun is its own element
>Character with fire powers
>Fire might as well be a cosmetic because it doesn't hurt anyone
Meh, that's no different than
>Character has a sword
>May as well be cosmetic because it never cuts anyone
>Advanced Fire magic is lightning
>Advanced Water magic is Ice
>Advanced Earth Magic is metal
>Advanced Wind magic is ???
HELP
>Advanced Wind magic is Storm
>It has aspects of lightning and water, but is mostly wind taken up to 11
Gas
Miasma
blasts
by blasts I mean explosions and shockwaves and stuff
Sound
In the Avatar series, its implied Advanced Wind is capable of vacuum.
And Advanced Water is just... strong waterbending, capable of manipulation blood, plant sap and any kind of liquid.
>advanced fire is lightning
LAVA
Wind gets lightning because storms
Fire gets lava because hot
but lava is partially covered by earth and we're talking about advanced elements, not combined elements
fire gets lightning because conductivity
>Aria
>Echo
>Refrain
are different elements
you cannot guess the game
Diesgusting fat-eared hapaelf
WOOD IS NOT A FRICKING ELEMENT IT IS A LIVING BYPRODUCT OF ELEMENTS
Nah, Wood is an element because it's counter electricity and water.
Wood requires earth, water, wind, and even fire/heat to grow and live. It's a byproduct.
China is moronic.
Wood is life.
That's a cope, they literally mean wood
Nah check Naruto, element wood is literally life force and regen.
Um no sweetie wood is wind
>Cum is element-neutral
Wood is typically representative of the idea of "life" as a separate thing from the more static elements
Lightning are Metal and Solt. Air is Fire and Water.
Shadow is an element.
What, how?
these are the rules and it's not up for debate
Forgot about Darkness and Light as elements.
>his elements don't insult each other
silly gweilo
All this elements are literally electrons with + and - charges. lol
ice and water being separate elements is much more egregious
Ice is distinct enough to be its own element. You're gay.
ice is literally cold water
If you're having issues telling the elements apart, just think of biomes. Arctic vs ocean.
>Plains
>Islands
>Mountains
>Swamps
>Forests
You just had to bring this shit game to the thread didnt you?
no, you don't get it. obviously i get the difference in a game. but in reality, it doesn't make sense because ice and water are the same thing in real life
>it doesn't make sense because ice and water are the same thing in real life
I can beat you to death with a block of ice, but not with a handful of water. How's that for making sense?
your ice is just cold water. it's not a new element. if you want to be realistic your element would be "cold", not strictly water that's been chilled
Fire is just hot air.
right, so again if we want to be "realistic" the element would be called Heat, not strictly Fire.
stay mad, you know i'm right
shaddap u stink I just want him to beat you to death with ice
*teleports behind u and uses Heat to convert your stupid ice to water and then air*
heh nuthin personnel kiddo
I hope he beats you with his ice
>fire and ice are separate elements
it's literally just hot and not hot
show me where there's water in fire
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Smirked, but pog shit is gay, so you don't get a (you).
>Time and space are seperate elements in game
>dude the four elements system doesn't work when viewed through the lens of our Mendeleev system
based high schoolers
Nobel peace prize please
Easy.
>hammer not light
you already failed
>Whip not light
Have you frickers never heard of the Belmonts?
I associate whips with thunder because they're both loud
I associate whips with darkness because BDSM.
why the frick would a bow and arrow be powered by wind?
arrow dynamics
You didn't play windranger in dota?
behold, the correct opinion
hammer water makes no sense
none of those weapons fit water to be fair
spear
Plasma (Fire, Lightning, Heat)
Water (Including Natute, Ice, Steam, Acid, Liquid Poison)
Wind (Including Gases)
Earth (Including Metal, and Magma)
Cellular (Healing and Shapeshifting)
Sound (Anti-magic and auditory illusions)
Light (Visual illusions and Light based attacks)
Dark (Raw physical matter and Gravity)
Atomic (Teleportation and Death magic)