Apparently there's a growing subset of fans that believe Skarmory didn't exist until Gen 3 when he is in fact a Gen 2 Pokemon.
When did you first hear about this strange Pokemon?
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Apparently there's a growing subset of fans that believe Skarmory didn't exist until Gen 3 when he is in fact a Gen 2 Pokemon.
Pokemon Johto anime?
Most people only play Gold
They barely show Johto Pokemon in the anime even with the amount of fillers they have.
This, it was my favorite to draw cause of the wings and I vividly remember the tail shape
Slugma balls
You fell for a zoomer meme, anyone who actually played the games encountered Skarmory, Gligar, Wobbuffet, Larvitar and whatever other Pokemon they're memeing
>When did you first hear about this strange Pokemon?
Gen 2
to be fair, if someone had never played gen 2 and started with Gen 3 its an easy mistake. Slugma and Skarmory are obtainable fairly early, Flannery used two Slugma, Skarmory used used by Winona and Steven. and there's even a huge Plot relevant volcano in Hoeen to justify the connection with Slugma.
Depends, if you only have Gold you can play it never knowing about Skarmory, I don't think it's used by any trainers.
Slugma and Macgargo are used twice each
No it's a common thing for gen 2 mons that are either locked to post E4 or exceedingly rare that are more common in Hoenn. There's a good handful of them. People get their first memory with that mon on their team in gen 3 and think of it as a gen 3 mon. Jasmine didn't even use Skarmory.
I'm a huge Johto fan, but even I think they messed up with Skarmory. Literally no trainer uses in the entire game, and the only way to get it is in the final route available after reaching Blackthorne, the literal final town of Johto, a route that is completely optional and with a low encounter rate. If you didn't have a guide or watched the anime, it's no wonder why most people encountered for the first time in the Hoenn games, where it is more much accessible + used by important trainers.
Game Freak's KANTOOO obsession meant they they didn't want the new Pokemon to become popular out of fear of overshadowing GenWun, hence Gen 2 pokemon begin treated like filler in their own game.
Don't forget, it's only in Silver.
I am pretty confident that I never saw Magcargo anywhere in Crystal and didn't know about it until I saw a gen 3 episode of the anime
>I am pretty confident that I never saw Magcargo anywhere in Crystal
to be fair, you maybe forgot because you probably OHKOd his whole team with the Surf mon you used to get to his gym in the first place but still...
Oh.
It's used by two trainers only yeah
Nah skarmory is the only gen 2 you could confuse for gen 3
>i still get mad at le zoomers!!!
I explored Crystal and HeartGold very thoroughly, you can bet I encountered these in Johto even if moreso in Hoenn.
I hate Wobbuffets so much!
Anon people have been talking about Skarmory (and Slugma) getting mistaken for Gen 3 pokemon since before the term zoomer even came into existence.
https://archive.palanq.win/vp/search/text/skarmory%20%22gen%203%22/order/asc/
Only time I saw Skar was Battle Tower. Johto was determined to hide it's Pokemon from you.
* its
explained here
No one who responded to this post actually played gen 2 when it came out.
>growing
How old?
I first saw it in a magazine when Gen 2 released.
Either traversing Johto Route 45 or the local Tazo ('Flippo') craze that existed prior to Gen 3. I distinctly remember obtaining a Skarmory one.
>Apparently there's a growing subset of fans that believe Skarmory didn't exist until Gen 3 when he is in fact a Gen 2 Pokemon.
>When did you first hear about this strange Pokemon?
UHMMM GOLDENROD GYM DIDNT HAVE MILKTANK, NAZI-CHUD
Emerald
I met skarmory for the first time in the grass above the cave above the power plant.
I was so shocked, like none of my attacks worked against him. Then I finally catched him, and his movepool was trash.
Silver in a wild encounter, where else?
>Had Gold and didn't engage with trading
This is why plenty of people didn't see it
except most people who were alive back then would have seen Skarmory in other media like the anime or cards.
Oh shit Ho-Oh is a Gen 1 mon!?
And they didn't see it there either, or take notice if they even did watch them or collect the cards. Not everyone did this, I certainly dropped the show during Johto myself, but I had Silver and already knew it existed.
So? Togepi was in gen 1, Maril was also shown early, and Munchlax, Snubbul, Ho-oh... They do this all the time, other media doesn't always show it at the right time. What I said still stands.
Over 20 Gen 2 pokemon debuted in the anime after a Gen 3 pokemon.
Are you for real?
nta but I know for a fact that Togetic and Typhlosion didn't appear until the Hoeen era, the former because the Johto anime written to be babyish filler so they kept Misty's Togepi as a useless lump and the latter because TPC has always hated Typhlosion and didn't want it to overshadow their precious CHARIZARD.
Off the top of my head:
>Typhlosion
>Togetic
>Flaaffy
Made their non movie/special anime debuts in AG.
most of the season only centers around Togepi babysitting and KANTOOOO it's baffling.
>most of the season only centers around Togepi babysitting and KANTOOOO
just like the games
in my defense
>watched original anime with my mom up until or before johto actually starts
>mom always bought pokemon stuff anyways because she liked it but we never came across gen 2 stuff unless you count that pokemon monopoly thing which iirc did not have skarmory
>get gen 3 (sapphire) from a friend who was moving away and wanted me to have one of his games
>can recognize which pokemon are from where mostly (oddish is gen 1 i knew that and bellosom which was gen 2)
>see skarmory
>oh cool new pokemon
>fast forward to a few years later decide to play Crystal
>find Skarmory
>oh neat its a Johto pokemon?
Same goes for Slugma, Girafarig and I think whatever babymon that was in Sapphire which I think is Igglybuff. My mom didn't consoom a lot of gen 2 stuff so I wasn't exposed to much of it as a result myself
original anime with my mom up until or before johto actually starts
>mom always bought pokemon stuff anyways because she liked it but we never came across gen 2 stuff unless you count that pokemon monopoly thing which iirc did not have skarmory
>My mom didn't consoom a lot of gen 2 stuff so I wasn't exposed to much of it as a result mysel
huh, so its almost if if the lack of popularity Gen 2 pokemon have compared to GENWUN due to lack of shilling rather than anything inherently wrong with the Gen 2 pokemon themselves. Better not let "babyish" anon find out or they will have an aneurysm.
honestly its driving me crazy so im trying to look for what that chikorita piece might have been and the only thing that im seeing that could be it is a piece from "Sorry!" That had a gen 2 version which is pic related
>go on google to find it
>only shows the monopoly one from 2016
i fricking had gen 2 shit in there i remember there being a chikorita but unless this is an ebin mandela effect it might have just been the original gen 1 one and im mistaking that chikorita piece for something else
It is Mandela effect, you're remembering it wrong.
That's what the effect is
Don't you know how to Google anon?
AND THERE IT IS holy shit thank you
not that im gonna fricking buy that shit again though even for nostalgia purposes i dont even play the original monopoly
It's 2001 edition by the way in case you want to find a clearer image.
damn they go for a lot for a board game but it's nice to see this again
>get gen 3 (sapphire) from a friend who was moving away and wanted me to have one of his games
Awwwww
I know a fan that doesn't browse this board that actually believed that Skarmory was introduced in Gen 3
When the Corviknight number spamming schizo started spazzing out about his Pokémon getting beat up by Pink Goblins and a few Skarmory posters were making fun about how Skarmorys chased off Corviknights from Galar into Paldea where things just got worse for Corviknights like losing their job and getting pred upon by Pink Goblins, so they are forced to hide underground in Area Zero which it doesn't get a break because Talonflames which eats other birds are also in Aera Zero too
Before that I thought Skarmory was a Gen 2 fakemon
I still can't believe that the majority of the people on this board now weren't there for every single gen being introduced. That's so fricking weird to me. I'm too old for this fricking board man
I'm here
bro that ship sailed a long time ago, there are technically adults out there who had Gen VI as their first games
Yeah it's fricked. Sometimes I wonder why this board is so shit and then I remember that the vast majority of people are probably under 25. Very sure /vp/ also has the highest share of underage users.
It's not fricking 2010 anymore. Get over it, homosexual grandpa
I'm a fricking Gen 4 zoomer and even I knew Skarm was Gen 2. Low IQ children should not be allowed near technology.
>don't explore
>miss stuff
wow
Stadium 2's intro
i also thought it was from gen 3 but i didnt play gen 2 when i was young so its easy to see how it happened for me. it also doesnt fit in well with the more round/simple/cute designs of gen 2.
I don't remember exactly, but I know I caught in gen 2. There was Pokemon Stadium 2 where I learned about some pokemon, but there was also a guide at a daycare so it could have been either of those. I remember explicitly learning about Scizor from that guide.
i started with gen 3, but it didnt even take long to find out it was from 2 since i'd watch a bunch of stadium 2 videos
the average fan today was born after Gen III came out so they probably don't even think about when Skarmory was introduced beyond the fact it was before their time
I can totally understand why people would think this, but I was heavily invested in the tcg, so when the gen 2 cards came out I was all over them. I even got a german skarmory back in the day that I still have, thought it was cool as shit when I was 12
I don't understand how people can play through a generation that lasts 3 years and not once ever google the pokedex/roster
>GSC era
>Google
You mean Yahoo, AltaVista, Lycos, or AskJeeves?
Either or, I remember seeing the gen 2 roster online before GS was released in the west
>AskJeeves
It actually scares me how few people remember that site now.
Anyone who watched the anime as a kid would have known it's a johto mon
a common trait of autism is not being able to comprehend that somebody else's experience differs from your own
When I was a kid I thought it was a secret third member of a legendary trio with Lugia and Ho-Oh.
Huh, me too
thanks to the tcg
Anyone have that info image from the Gen 2 brigading where it shows how bad it is for each Gen 2 pokemon to be obtained? Or maybe it talked about how convoluted it was for all the cools ones to be obtained which lead to them rarely being used by players? Pic unrelated.
>even if you exclude unown, Gen 2 is tied with Gen 5 and 6
weird
Also Hoenn has an unfair advantage since there is an abnormally long time before their first gym.
So what? I thought ferrothorn was gen 4 until like a week ago. Who cares?