Absolutely, they are the best in market for mid range builds, save for black Friday deals on 4070s. AMD cpus are the best gaming focused cpus hands down.
The PS5 is a Zen 2 Ryzen 3700 plus a RX 6800, with some cost saving to make the PS5 yield/cheap enough.
You can buy higher end hardware from that from AMD. Even more since both of these are now 2 hardware generations old.
>Is that worth it
So long Nvidia and Intel tax exist? Yes.
More like >with some cost saving to make the PS5 yield/cheap enough.
Same on the Xboner the One Bone.
Still, the argument don't really change: Your goal when buying/assembling PC hardware for a game rig is to be on par or above the PS5s specs, so your performance isn't shit.
And the jump from PS4 to PS5 was a lot smaller than PS3 to PS4 when a lot of release games basically required the PC equitant of a super duper computer.
Intel is objectively inferior for many generations. E/P core architecture is mediocre for desktops and they are 3 lithography generations behind meaning their 180 tdp cpus are barely above AMD's 65 tdp cpus.
cpu is totally worth
shits on everything and is decently priced
that specific gpu is meh , amd is all about under-pricing the competition and that one is basically a worse 4080
AMD fundamentally beats every new Nvidia card but the 4090 when it comes to pure raster performance in every price range and the 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU on the market. If you want a cheaper CPU, Intel has valid offers. If you're an upscaling/raytracing believer, Nvidia is probably the better buy across the board. They're not even truly competing in the same category right now, hopefully they reunite with AMD or Intel becomes viable next gen to drive prices down.
Since, this is the 1,000th time you've made this post, I'll give you the 1,000 same answer.
If you're going to use Linux, yes.
If you're going to use Windows, use an AMD CPU and an nShitia GPU for less issues.
for upscaling and frame generation, they're worse than nvidia.
for 4K, they're the only option until the 4080 and 4090, because nvidia gimps their GPUs with 12GB VRAM and 4k textures won't hold. (4060 ti 16gb is too slow for 4k)
no because everything under AMD always fricking breaks and theres always driver issues.
the whole "price to performance" always gets brought up and yeah, youre going to be paying a lot less for almost the same power but the fact that nothing fricking works under AMD makes it not worth it.
just pay the nvidia israelite tax
For CPUs yes. GPU is dependent upon if you think you'll find use for Nvidia's more advanced feature set. Other than being kind of shit for upscaling and ray tracing, they're great.
>Intel just works >meanwhile, intel >a new hardware vuln found >a new hardware vuln found >a new hardware vuln found >a new hardware vuln found >a new hardware vuln found
>MY brand is better than YOUR brand
all brands are shit. both amd and nvidia are price fixing cartels because intel dont offer any competition and no one is going to dare piss off china by enforcing the law.
in terms of actual performance currently nothing beats the 7800X3D for games while nothing comeptes with 4090s only nivida offer high end gpus but amd 7800XT is fine, just a rebranded 6800XT which is also a great gpu for the price
idk why there has been dedicated AMD marketing threads for the last 2 weeks. To any actual humans here, they make amazing CPUs and dogshit GPUs. fullstop. no if ands or butts.
even in instances where an AMD gpu should be equal to Nvidia, it will underperform in game because all games are made with Nvidia in mind.
"driver has recovered from an error. would you like to send a report?" is a phrase you will read at least once a week with an amd gpu.
t. swore off Nvidia in 2009, came back in 2023, and regret all the wasted time, lost games, etc.
Never once have i had a driver issue after amd replaced c**talisk with kingcrimson. relive is also better than shadow play because its not restricted by the software.
I got two marketer responses but didn't reply to not bump the thread. the marketer saw it was about to drop off and bumped it from page 9. fricking wild. if amd worked as much on working drivers as they did on shilling broken GPUs they would have more marketshare.
Depends on price. 12700KF is half the price of the 7800X3D. 13700K or KF is 2/3rds the price.
Not all games benefit from the extra cache and there's no extra cores (eCores) to pin things to which are really handy.
>Bought 3200g 2-3 years ago with no gpu >Still playing all my indie games, vns, rpgmaker and FORTNITE perfectly
you'll live to see a day where gpus become obsolete
>shart in field
Absolutely, they are the best in market for mid range builds, save for black Friday deals on 4070s. AMD cpus are the best gaming focused cpus hands down.
actual AI comment? black friday ended a few days ago
dead internet theory is true
Whenever a game has some niche issue that never gets patched and is a pisstake to troubleshoot on your end, it's AMD
The PS5 is a Zen 2 Ryzen 3700 plus a RX 6800, with some cost saving to make the PS5 yield/cheap enough.
You can buy higher end hardware from that from AMD. Even more since both of these are now 2 hardware generations old.
>Is that worth it
So long Nvidia and Intel tax exist? Yes.
>RX 6800
No bro, it's like a base version RX 6700 (non XT)
More like
>with some cost saving to make the PS5 yield/cheap enough.
Same on the Xboner the One Bone.
Still, the argument don't really change: Your goal when buying/assembling PC hardware for a game rig is to be on par or above the PS5s specs, so your performance isn't shit.
And the jump from PS4 to PS5 was a lot smaller than PS3 to PS4 when a lot of release games basically required the PC equitant of a super duper computer.
>Ryzen 3700
6.5 cores used for gaming
much lower clocks
much lower l3 cache
outperformed by 3600
>RX 6800
in reality overclocked 5700xt
>Intel tax
Intel is objectively inferior for many generations. E/P core architecture is mediocre for desktops and they are 3 lithography generations behind meaning their 180 tdp cpus are barely above AMD's 65 tdp cpus.
cpu is totally worth
shits on everything and is decently priced
that specific gpu is meh , amd is all about under-pricing the competition and that one is basically a worse 4080
>basically a worse 4080
You wish.
CPU yes GPU only if you're poor
People like you will buy 60-tier cards though
I just buy whatever is best
Yes. Both CPU and GPU.
Pffft hahaha no. Nothing will dethrone nvidia+intel.
Stop making these threads and kys op
If you buy AMD you are antisemite
Can someone explain the recent driver issues with Nvidia thats all over their support forum and reddit?
No, AMD video cards and inherently inferior
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All made by some intel schizo from Ganker that has a massive amd hate boner
There should be a global rule for banning spam posting. like after the 3rd same post, you get banned.
AMD fundamentally beats every new Nvidia card but the 4090 when it comes to pure raster performance in every price range and the 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU on the market. If you want a cheaper CPU, Intel has valid offers. If you're an upscaling/raytracing believer, Nvidia is probably the better buy across the board. They're not even truly competing in the same category right now, hopefully they reunite with AMD or Intel becomes viable next gen to drive prices down.
Since, this is the 1,000th time you've made this post, I'll give you the 1,000 same answer.
If you're going to use Linux, yes.
If you're going to use Windows, use an AMD CPU and an nShitia GPU for less issues.
no fricking moron don't make that mistake
AMD is only good for handheld APUs
for rasterization, they're the best value.
for RT, they're bad.
for upscaling and frame generation, they're worse than nvidia.
for 4K, they're the only option until the 4080 and 4090, because nvidia gimps their GPUs with 12GB VRAM and 4k textures won't hold. (4060 ti 16gb is too slow for 4k)
objectively nothing else to say about the topic
no because everything under AMD always fricking breaks and theres always driver issues.
the whole "price to performance" always gets brought up and yeah, youre going to be paying a lot less for almost the same power but the fact that nothing fricking works under AMD makes it not worth it.
just pay the nvidia israelite tax
For a linux build yes
For CPUs yes. GPU is dependent upon if you think you'll find use for Nvidia's more advanced feature set. Other than being kind of shit for upscaling and ray tracing, they're great.
As long as it runs any emulator I throw at it I don't care.
>CPU
Absolutely.
>GPU
Only if you run Linux primarily.
>CPU
If the price is right and you don't like or want to tinker.
>GPU
Hit or miss every generation. I would avoid it for now.
Also potential for jank / issues down the line, Intel just works.
>Intel just works
>meanwhile, intel
>a new hardware vuln found
>a new hardware vuln found
>a new hardware vuln found
>a new hardware vuln found
>a new hardware vuln found
X3D CPUs are the best for gaming and their GPUs are decent in budget range. From 4070 onward Nvidia is way better.
only cpus
lets put it this way
if you missed the 6800XT you only have yourself to blame dumbass
Any bets on how long this thread will last before the goytel and goyvidia shills go crying to the jannies again after getting BTFO by facts and logic?
>MY brand is better than YOUR brand
all brands are shit. both amd and nvidia are price fixing cartels because intel dont offer any competition and no one is going to dare piss off china by enforcing the law.
in terms of actual performance currently nothing beats the 7800X3D for games while nothing comeptes with 4090s only nivida offer high end gpus but amd 7800XT is fine, just a rebranded 6800XT which is also a great gpu for the price
7800XT has av1 encoding, the AI cores that will be used for some driver upscaling or something, and superior efficiency
>FSR/DLSS/XeSS
Enjoy you cut down silicon for an extra $150 moron. Upscaling saves the company money, not you.
you don't have to use it
you actually do unless you like sub 30 fps in UE5
idk why there has been dedicated AMD marketing threads for the last 2 weeks. To any actual humans here, they make amazing CPUs and dogshit GPUs. fullstop. no if ands or butts.
even in instances where an AMD gpu should be equal to Nvidia, it will underperform in game because all games are made with Nvidia in mind.
"driver has recovered from an error. would you like to send a report?" is a phrase you will read at least once a week with an amd gpu.
t. swore off Nvidia in 2009, came back in 2023, and regret all the wasted time, lost games, etc.
That just plain isn't true until tech like dlss or ray tracing.
You should buy Nvidia BECAUSE of DLSS alone. My 4070 can do 100fps with max settings and max raytracing with it turned on.
I'd be surprised if an AMD card could do 30.
Never once have i had a driver issue after amd replaced c**talisk with kingcrimson. relive is also better than shadow play because its not restricted by the software.
> dedicated AMD marketing threads
amd cpu and gpu marketshare shrink.
I got two marketer responses but didn't reply to not bump the thread. the marketer saw it was about to drop off and bumped it from page 9. fricking wild. if amd worked as much on working drivers as they did on shilling broken GPUs they would have more marketshare.
The graphics drivers are better now atleast
Depends on price. 12700KF is half the price of the 7800X3D. 13700K or KF is 2/3rds the price.
Not all games benefit from the extra cache and there's no extra cores (eCores) to pin things to which are really handy.
>Bought 3200g 2-3 years ago with no gpu
>Still playing all my indie games, vns, rpgmaker and FORTNITE perfectly
you'll live to see a day where gpus become obsolete