Are dungeon crawlers a dying genre?

Are dungeon crawlers a dying genre?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yea experience is the only studio making them anymore

    they're called DRPGs btw

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >akshually

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      they're only called DRPGs when japs make them
      western chads call them """Blobbers"""

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        How 'bout we compromise and call them BRPGs (Blobber Role Playing Game) instead?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Blobbers usually refer to games with realtime elements like ye olde eye of the beholder or grimrock.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          No they don't. They refer to any game where your party is an amorphous blob of people that all move as one. You are one dumb motherfricker you know that?

          Haven't gotten the chance to play these yet but I've heard they're good
          https://store.steampowered.com/app/1768650/Path_of_the_Abyss/
          https://store.steampowered.com/app/1601280/Potato_Flowers_in_Full_Bloom/

          >https://store.steampowered.com/app/1768650/Path_of_the_Abyss/
          I kind of want to buy this before it leaves early access. For the discount.
          But what are the chances of it getting a Switch or Switch 2 release after the game leaves early access? Because then I'd probably prefer that.

          Path is a bit meh.
          Potato Flowers is pretty great.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >chad
        >uses the most moronic genre term ever
        I would rather not play the genre ever again if i had to call them blobbers. Luckily we dont, because everyone knows what we mean when we say DRPG.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Experience also charges $40 for them despite being a small indie company specializing in a niche genre. Small wonder only diehard fans only buy their stuff.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Monyu on steam is actually embarrassing, and I don't say that with pleasure because I care for this sort of thing.

        I hope that one dude is having fun.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >niche genre is niche
          >um ASCKSHULLY stats???
          holy shit giga brain zoomer secondary moment

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was agreeing with him. I don't understand why exactly are you throwing a tantrum. Are you okay?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            mon-yu is clearly a flop even within a 'niche' genre
            not even 10 people could be bothered to write a review

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon I know being moronic on Ganker is ebin but there's a difference between niche and not even having 100 max players.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I know that guy is being a clown, but to be fair, steam was an afterthought for this game over a year after its original release which I believe was on switch on its main market which is Japan. Not that I think this changes much to be honest, it's still not a good luck for the game.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Niche games dont sell for *this* poorly. Just look at Etrian Odyssey. The price is a big factor, the rest of us just pirate the damn game.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              i just think a lot of japanese indie devs are too proud to bend the knee to regional pricing

              EO was published by SEGA and they know the deal about steam and its deals

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It feels like they only use one tileset for all of the dungeons and just change the lighting a bit. The gimmicks are cool but some of them restrict your team building. I know they are giving you free respec so you can adjust your builds accordingly but it feels like a nuisance to me. They kind of false advertise the artstyle too.

          is there a good way to play Wizardry 8 in a window on modern windows, every time i try it barely functions

          Did you get the fan patch yet?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          we all pirated it or emulated on switch

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not trying to make any statements, this just got me curious so I decided to go after some other stuff.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            *posts EO collection charts*
            omg is EO the hecking best bros???

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's 1 anon. Pic is 3. There is no collection chart, it is separated. Calm down.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes.
              Objectively.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >niche genre is niche
              >um ASCKSHULLY stats???
              holy shit giga brain zoomer secondary moment

              I hope these are 2 different people because if this is the same guy this person has serious mental health issues.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Reminder that they sold this for 100 yen on the eShop.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            i love their motive behind it, to get children in japan to play the game they could actually afford and only disseminate the code through children's magazines but they sure were fricking gullible to not expect that to backfire

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            i love their motive behind it, to get children in japan to play the game they could actually afford and only disseminate the code through children's magazines but they sure were fricking gullible to not expect that to backfire

            Wait. Elaborate.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Pretty much what

              i love their motive behind it, to get children in japan to play the game they could actually afford and only disseminate the code through children's magazines but they sure were fricking gullible to not expect that to backfire

              said, people quickly found out about it because it was a 99% discount so it hit #1 on the eShop, which only made it more visible. I think it ended up being their best seller in Japan by a huge margin but somehow I doubt it made them a lot of money.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty bold of them to market

                https://i.imgur.com/HPKaxQn.jpg

                Are dungeon crawlers a dying genre?

                to kids.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kids are the only demographic who can legally frick kids, so in a way it's actually genius.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                They said it was meant to get younger people into DRPGs but we all know that their master plan was actually creating a new generation of chibi porn artists in 15 or so years.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                o7

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            And on steam for $73.50 dollarydoos. Fricking jap companies overprice the shit out of dungeon crawlers in kangaroo bucks.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        But why charge so much?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          see

          experience is a studio of like literal 10 employees from japan, they didn't really market the game well over here and it also dropped on steam with the tone-deaf pricing model from the nintendo e-shop

          the touhou game has an already established fanbase, dev was constantly posting updates about progress in various boards and it already has a very strong fanbase worldwide

          i want experience to succeed but yeah they certainly never do themselves any favors. if anything they are most successful with their visual novels but that has a more general appeal of "j-horror"

          but the japanese are very stubborn about the pricing of goods, not even when it comes to video games

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There doing better than some genres, there's still a couple AA-tier studios that make them, instead of just indies like poor old RTS

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Class of Heroes 1 & 2 coming to Steam this month. Buy them for a chance to save the third game from Vic Ireland's clutches! I fricking wish

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks I wishlisted them

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Dwarf
      I will now buy your game

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Class of Heroes 1 & 2 coming to Steam this month
      Hold the frick on, you serious? Is it still being done by Vic? That series was completely fricked with bad translations and bugs on the PSP thanks to them.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know the game's getting a retranslation, but by who and how good it will be is unknown. It does increase the chance of getting 3 translated since they aren't just dumping them on steam as is.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >by who and how good
          It's a dungeon crawler. How bad can it be?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      dwarf-chan my beloved

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Never really understood why they got combined with rawulves in COH but dwarves cute

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It dates back to the wisardry xth games doing it. But then why did those games do to?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Vic Ireland
      That motherfricker is STILL around? I thought he went bankrupt years ago.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry but I've already pirated it on my vita but haven't played it yet.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The localization was shit for both games on the PSP. Full of bugs and shit translations. I'd strongly recommend playing the PC version if they're doing a completely retranslation. Also if getting the PC port is enough to get the 3rd game localized please do so. The PSP's localization promised the 3rd game and just fricking dropped it after preorders were taken.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is the JP PSP version full of bugs too? Can I just skip to the third one without missing out on anything?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            No clue but if its like most localization, then the bugs were probably introduced after localization. Mostly just any game by NISA, Gaijin Works, Atlus, XSEED. Seriously, I have no fricking clue what these guys are doing to where fan translation can translate games with zero issues but their localized games can cause BSOD on consoles or melt CPUs.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Can I just skip to the third one without missing out on anything?
            Forgot to answer that but yeah, CoH games don't really have much of a story unless something changed with the 3rd game. I've never played 3 but for the most part they're pretty stand alone and you just jump right in.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Vic Ireland
      Jesus. This is a name I haven't thought about in decades.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I remember playing CoH2 and that starting map scared the shit out of me. No music just dead silence and and the occasional sound of nature and a FRICKING DRAGON roaring out there. I'll be honest, it was kinda cool.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Imagine sending a bunch of schoolgirls in miniskirts to take down whatever evil bullshit that's going around.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have they shown anything of the new translation yet?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I saw this on Switch. Any good?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like them, but I admit they're not for everyone. Don't expect a super polished experience, just entertaining slop. There's also some questionable RNG systems like rerolling for bonus points at character creation, a chance for characters to perma-die if a revival fails and a chance for stats to lower on levelup (mostly for stats that are far higher than the race average).

        On the flip side, party building is fun because you also have to hold race into account (and the fact that some races like/hate each other), the characters look cute as frick and in 2 every class got its own character art for boys and girls of each race. And most importantly it's just a solid dungeon crawler.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I never played the sequels but I think the biggest annoyance in CoH was the crafting system and how you had no choice but to use it. IIRC CoH is reskinned version of a PS2 Wizardry game from Experience and it really comes off as a very primitive version of the crafting and upgrade systems in their games.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, that is fair. The crafting system is kinda shit and physical characters need good weapons to be able to keep up.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          All those "problems" you listed are actually classic wizardry kino features.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            homie, COH had divvy/pool gold. There's classic and there's being stuck in 1981.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    they should be but japan cant stop pumping wizardry clones out

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is the only JRPG style that has legit gameplay
    Everything else are jokes with zero difficulty, just play a VN

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not all games need to be difficult to be enjoyable.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I disagree. But its a matter of opinion.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sucks that the japs are stuck in a perpetual state of copypasting wizardry 5 instead of giving a shot at making their own wizardry 7/8

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you guys 'thal enough to play a real dungeon crawler instead of your sissy anime ones?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw he was actually right about the weird degenerates that worked at sir-tech

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wait what?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          he said a bunch of weird schizo shit about the guys at sir-tech but it turned out to be somewhat real. i don't have the evidence but i know it's out there. like it was full of degenerates that spent all day drawing penis monsters and shit.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dang, wish they had funneled that degeneracy into making H-games before they disbanded.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Bored people drawing dicks isn’t new

              Oh no people having fun someone stop them

              What he said was that the guys at the Australian company Sir-Tech hired to do the art and narrative were a bunch of gay pedo creeps who had used sex toys strewn across their apartment and groomed runaway teenage boys for sex by offering them a place to sleep and that they drew gay furries and pulsating penis monster shit non-stop and insisted on putting them into the game. That's a condensed version and skip over some of their pedophilia and assorted crazy shit.
              People didn't believe him cuz he's kinda crazy too but then an aussie auction was put up that actually showed a bunch of concept art proving him right.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bored people drawing dicks isn’t new

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              i think they actually wanted them in a wizardry game though

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                and that's a good thing

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh no people having fun someone stop them

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you type like this is this some desperate attempt at identification?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        t. sape

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did the fat schizo fix his game or is it still a buggy mess?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mostly fixed.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Did the fat schizo fix his game or is it still a buggy mess?

          There's still no penalty for failing to steal from someone making stealing something that breaks the game.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      gwimuah.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw I enjoyed Wiz8 so much it's my standard for the genre
      Frick tiles.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are there any Wiz 8 clone out there?

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alright, give me your best dungeon cralwers/blobbers/DRPGs.
    Western or weeb, it doesn't matter.
    I want something new to play.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Play Undernauts. It's the last good thing Experience has made, just get it at a discount.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >$49.99
        Why the frick do they charge so much for these things?
        I imagine they don't cost a lot to make. 80% of the game is just looking at still/slightly animated images and picking options from a menu.
        Anyway, wishlisted, thanks.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          niche audience

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          it goes on sale often

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          you can emulate the switch version
          dunno if theres any difference

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          you can just pirate it. its not like theyre making anything else you would want. plus its a unity game so all the more reason to not give them a cent for their cheap ass game

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            w-wait really?
            i have your blessing to pirate it anon-sama?!

            kyaaaaaaa~!!!

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              with my blessings, my child

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Undernauts has a cool setting... and that's about it. Every other Experience game I played was better.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Too bad they simplified character creation and removed subclassing that was present in other games, replacing it with changing classes at any time. If they had just built upon what they've done in the previous games, then it would've been great.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Too bad they simplified character creation and removed subclassing that was present in other games, replacing it with changing classes at any time. If they had just built upon what they've done in the previous games, then it would've been great.

        I played it recently (taking a break from the postgame now) and it just isn't that enjoyable. You have pretty much no AoE moves until level 30, the flower mechanic is an annoyance and farming equipment with monflowers and the dream maps sucks ass, I never understood why they didn't just copypaste the Demon Gaze system in all their games. Also I really want to know what went so fricking wrong with the original version of the game, not even the setting was salvaged.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I always felt like they just merged some of the original concept into NG. Could be just because of the kimono stuff.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          sexo

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Quest is a pretty gud single character Might And Magic clone, although something about the writing can raise a few eye brows.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t think anyone beaten Grimrock.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm at the end of King's Field 3 after playing the first 3 games all back to back and it's been a fricking amazing journey

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Really? I beat KF1 and KF2 and then when a skeleton popped out of a treasure chest in KF3 I just gave up lel

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just completed the first game recently. Final boss was gay, but they gave way too many dragon fruit just before it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      SMT series, but Strange Journy Redux

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      labyrinth of touhou 2
      there's a third game game coming out in 2037 also

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        are labyrinth of touhou 1 and 2 separate from this or how are they related?
        https://store.steampowered.com/app/1131920/LABYRINTH_OF_TOUHOU__GENSOKYO_AND_THE_HEAVENPIERCING_TREE/

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's labyrinth of touhou 2.
          The first one is unplayable(?) in modern systems

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            is playable on modern systems

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, at forced 2x speed.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                how did you manage to do that? I never got anything like that

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I played on a Windows 10 machine with a screen refresh rate that's stuck at 144hz.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't gotten the chance to play these yet but I've heard they're good
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1768650/Path_of_the_Abyss/
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1601280/Potato_Flowers_in_Full_Bloom/

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >https://store.steampowered.com/app/1768650/Path_of_the_Abyss/
      I kind of want to buy this before it leaves early access. For the discount.
      But what are the chances of it getting a Switch or Switch 2 release after the game leaves early access? Because then I'd probably prefer that.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aren’t they easy to make?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Aren’t they easy to make?
      None of you homosexuals replied

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What do you want?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah we didn't. Frick you homosexual.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        as easy as a shmup to make
        Yeah the basics are all there already well stablished
        But can you find the proper design to make it actually something special, and every small variation has huge ramifications to how the game plays

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Shouldnt say to how it plays, they all play kind of similar, but to how it flows or feels.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    sauce

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    is there a good way to play Wizardry 8 in a window on modern windows, every time i try it barely functions

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can try linux, old games work better than on windows.
      For me it was with Fallout 3, on windows the game wouldn't even work but on linux it ran flawlessly.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        which linux?

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh frick. I had Mon-Yu wishlisted. But now it's been out for half a year already and I forgot to buy it!
    Frick. I really wonder how I let that slip past me. Well. Now I know what I'm going to do. I've got a couple of weeks before Eyuuden and Chrono Ark.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Mon-Yu: Defeat Monsters And Gain Strong Weapons And Armor. You May Be Defeated, But Don’t Give Up. Become Stronger. I Believe There Will Be A Day When The Heroes Defeat The Devil King.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      japs love doing this shit btw, i wish i knew why
      you see it all the time with doujins

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >japs love doing this shit btw
        Can you list 3 other official games that do this to a comparable extent?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was a trend for a while that started in light novels but I dont see it as much anymore.
        They dont need long titles anymore since everything is isekai

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natsuiro_High_School:_Seishun_Hakusho
          >full name
          >夏色ハイスクル青春白書〜転校初日のオレが幼馴染と再会したら報道部員にされていて激写少年の日々はスクープ大連発でイガイとモテモテなのに何故かマイメモリーはパンツ写真ばっかりという現実と向き合いながら考えるひと夏の島の学園生活と赤裸々な恋の行方。〜,
          i kneel

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        they do it because no one reads the back of the light novel for the synopsis. The title is on the side cover so the potential buyer can know exactly whether they're interested or not from the title alone

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          well it cuts out the gay annoying side flap so maybe it's not such a bad idea

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      yfw it used to be longer but they shortened it

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sadly i can't enjoy games where you can't see your character in combat so the only one i enjoyed was ray gigant

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can see a picture of your character when you select the move.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know but i want to see them in combat. What you said is no different than going into a "status" screen. I know it's autistic but hey. Same reason why i never played any etrian game or didn't get that mary skelter game

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Persona Q shows the characters doing battle animations (after you select your moves) if that's good enough.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >do an attack
      >character disappears

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because the genre is fricking garbage. Not being able to see your characters attacking is the laziest kind of gameplay in RPGs with only DQ and Earthbound got away with it

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, that's why I 'm making my own: GloamSnarl. Keep an eye out for it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      soul

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      that looks fricking nice anon
      >GloamSnarl
      what's your game about?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        First person 3D free motion dungeon crawling with the usual tactical jrpg combat. Dungeons have verticality and some light platforming / trap avoidance. Field bosses. Pseudo random encounters in the dungeons. Economy is simulated, and inflation/deflation and store stock are things. Milestone leveling, so no grindan unless you want. Complete requests in town to help it grow and get more facilities and better stuff. Multiple endings.

        Play as monster races cleaning up the mess after heroes defeat the dark lord and frick off.

        I'm most of the way done with the foundational systems and cruising into an alpha soon.

        I post occasionally in the cesspool of /vg/agdg/, but should have an itch page up soon if you like to avoid the crab bucket.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          cool shit, good luck

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you!

            thanks anon, will check it out
            good luck <3

            And thank you too!

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          thanks anon, will check it out
          good luck <3

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Forgot to mention full 3d combat so you can see your characters doing stuff. Character costumes are customizable, and will do transmog gear somehwere down the road.

          This is a combat alpha from some time ago.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            holy shit spoiler that skeleton I had a heart attack
            looks dope

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            First person 3D free motion dungeon crawling with the usual tactical jrpg combat. Dungeons have verticality and some light platforming / trap avoidance. Field bosses. Pseudo random encounters in the dungeons. Economy is simulated, and inflation/deflation and store stock are things. Milestone leveling, so no grindan unless you want. Complete requests in town to help it grow and get more facilities and better stuff. Multiple endings.

            Play as monster races cleaning up the mess after heroes defeat the dark lord and frick off.

            I'm most of the way done with the foundational systems and cruising into an alpha soon.

            I post occasionally in the cesspool of /vg/agdg/, but should have an itch page up soon if you like to avoid the crab bucket.

            Neat. What engine are you using?

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i have beaten (literally finished) 24 DRPGs
    my ranking:
    1) demon gaze extra
    2) dungeon travelers 2-2
    3) severed (yes it is technically still a DRPG https://www.dungeoncrawlers.org/definition/)
    4) labyrinth of refrain: coven of dusk
    5) undernauts: labyrinth of yomi
    6) zanki zero: last beginning
    7) strange of sword city revisited
    8) tokyo clanpool (JOP bros only)
    9) SMT strange journey redux
    10) demon gaze II
    11) mon-yu
    12) moero crystal H
    13) ray gigant
    14) operation babel
    15) wizard's symphony (JOP bros only)
    16) konosuba: labyrinth of hope and gathering of adventures (Vita)
    17) fight knight (it's a DRPG, see above definition + cope)
    18) coven of labyrinth
    ----- do not recommend tier -------
    19) dungeon travelers 2
    20) mary skelter 2
    21) saviors of sapphire wings
    23) live in dungeon
    24) labyrinth cross blood: infinity (JOP bros only)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with Labyrinth Cross Blood? I remember people saying it was one of the best Experience games back in the Vita days.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        infinity mode specifically made the game absurdly grindy in the last stretch (you play with 1 less party member than usual, basically forcing you to have a few hybrid party members)

        https://store.steampowered.com/app/1901620/Dungeon_Travelers_To_Heart_2_in_Another_World/
        Is this 2, or 2-2?

        that's #19 on my list, idk if they changed the difficulty on the pc version but the psvita version was most difficult and grindiest crawler i've ever played, but satisfying superbosses
        really helps put DT2-2 into perspective which had much more comprehensible dungeon layouts, and significantly more skits and CG to fill the gaps
        there's not really a post-game so you are buckled in for the long haul if you pick this one up.

        but 2-2 is on pc in english, you just have to buy it from some third party website or pirate it. i payed it on PS-Vita (with all the DLC dungeons)

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          They didn't change the difficulty at all though. Satisfying superboss*es*? That game only has one superboss. Are you confusing it with DT2? What anon linked is DT1. Pretty sure neither of them changed the difficulty though.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://store.steampowered.com/app/1901620/Dungeon_Travelers_To_Heart_2_in_Another_World/
      Is this 2, or 2-2?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That is 2. 2-2 is the library something.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          dang

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Neither, actually. Dungeon Travelers was an spinoff of a VN called To Heart 2, then it got two sequels with original characters called Dungeon Travelers 2 and 2-2. Both sequels were rejected for release on Steam but the first one was accepted somehow.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lists this long are pretty autistic because there is no way it can ever be 100% accurate even with your own opinion.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it is impossible to rank a sample size of 24
        zoombrain moment

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >actually types stuff like "zoombrain"
          >didn't try to actually process what I said
          The irony.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >7) strange of sword city revisited
      I... I mean... What?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        unpopular pick to be sure, especially since you want to do some pre-planning for your teams multi-classing but 'revisited' edition adds a ton of new content and improvements
        the best being the bounty hunting system
        also quite like the characters and CG

        >15) wizard's symphony
        Based I though I was the only one that played it, I still havent finished though

        yeah it's quite a long one, but pretty fun saturday morning crawler. kind of absurd how much volume of CG is in this game (albiet most of it is shit looking), can't say he didn't try

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          What's the new content for Revisited? I've played the earlier version and then never got to the Revisited.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Three more classes, three added dungeons, they did something about how hilariously unbalanced it was. There is a Xbox One exclusive version also.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >15) wizard's symphony
      Based I though I was the only one that played it, I still havent finished though

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >1) demon gaze extra
      I have a lot of disagreements with your rankings. But as a fellow Demon Gaze Extra enjoyer, I salute you.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I liked that game for the cute girls but god damn the story is batshit stupid. Especially the obvious "this character is going to die next" flag.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's kinda crazy how Experience games apparently have this deep lore that encompasses multiple games over hundreds of years but the actual story sucks ass every time.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        God damn, did they have a bulk sale on chains? They're cool, but... damn that's a lot of them.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        did this censor anything? could never get a confirmation

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      why didn't you like dungeon travelers 2?
      I personally really disliked it because it felt like a shitty dungeon crawler with terrible fanservice (awful drawings), the UI looked like just placeholders, and the gameplay itself wasn't anything different than the most basic dungeon crawler

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        wrote about it here

        infinity mode specifically made the game absurdly grindy in the last stretch (you play with 1 less party member than usual, basically forcing you to have a few hybrid party members)
        [...]
        that's #19 on my list, idk if they changed the difficulty on the pc version but the psvita version was most difficult and grindiest crawler i've ever played, but satisfying superbosses
        really helps put DT2-2 into perspective which had much more comprehensible dungeon layouts, and significantly more skits and CG to fill the gaps
        there's not really a post-game so you are buckled in for the long haul if you pick this one up.

        but 2-2 is on pc in english, you just have to buy it from some third party website or pirate it. i payed it on PS-Vita (with all the DLC dungeons)

        i lost track of the number of times i wanted to drop this game and never look back. and yet, i kept getting pulled back in by the call of the superbosses, the feel of the combat, and the need for closure.

        but yeah it really makes me appreciate how much more they improved on the series with less gimmicky dungeon design and way more skits/cg to flesh out the experience of the crawl

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Modt basic dungeon crawlers just copy Wizardry 1~3 and make you auto-attack 90% of random encounters, DT at least has actual skills for characters and mechanics like delaying turns.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a porn game. But you'd probably enjoy Rance 6 a lot.
      It's a very legitimate DRPG even though it's porn. It doesn't halfass the gameplay and game design.

      It's genuinely an excellent DRPG.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        dang, figured most rance games were tactical rpgs and not DRPGs
        will cheq it out

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rance 6 is also coincidentally the first big Rance game after they decided to soft-reboot the franchise. So the game is deliberately made to be a good entry point to the franchise. Doesn't demand a bunch of prior series knowledge, and eases you into the world in a good and satisfying manner.

          From one DRPG lover to another. I hope you enjoy it.
          I do genuinely rank it highly. On the merits as a DRPG. All the funny Rance world & mythos is a bonus though, but even stand-alone I'd rank it high.
          Hope you'll enjoy it too.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You havent beaten the Refrain sequel yet? its better than coven of dusk

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        i think i mistyped but galleria is 18 on that list
        massively intricate and far-reaching narrative, truly impressive
        huge improvements over the first game in terms of movement tech, biomes, and core systems
        however, things start to fall apart around the middle and you will eventually be asked to endure one of the most unforgivable post-games ever conceived

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The post game was based. Its also got one of the best bangers of an exploration theme in the genre (I just wish it didnt fricking restart after every fight)

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >its better than coven of dusk
        Can you elaborate? I think this might be the first time I've actually seen this opinion and it baffles me.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think its pretty much agreed the overall battle system and QoL is way better in galleria. Honestly I think the more autobattle sided DRPGs where you set up specific synergies and moves lends itself far more to what Galleria tries to provide.

          I do agree however that the story gets suplexed as soon as the mansion plot "ends" but I enjoyed it regardless.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >1) demon gaze extra
      Playing the first one right now and personally I didn't care too about it or at least not enough to rate it that high. I don't hate it, its just certain mechanics really annoy me. The side quest stories are boring and drag on too long and I absolutely hate needing to switch out demons for basic passive abilities or finding hidden items that I always need to keep track of.

      I just want to crawl but all that other stuff I mentioned just gets in the way.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Play SMT2

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no EO

      Nice to see someone else who likes Zanki Zero though. Cool game

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Zanki Zero
        how's the story

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          over the top twists but it's pretty fun

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >over the top twists
            That's all you had to say

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Zanki Zero
        I am still kind of fuming at how the localization fricked the game.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          What did they do

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Entire features were cut. The script was butchered. CGs were cropped and altered.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            They cut out pedophilia from the game which makes pedophilic otakus seethe

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does King's Field count as a DRPG? I've beaten:
      >Wizardry I-II-III: Story of Llylgamyn (SNES)
      >Shining in the Darkness
      >Shining the Holy Ark
      >Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible Special
      >Shin Megami Tensei I and II (currently playing If...)
      >Dungeon Encounters
      That's about it, got tons more dungeonkino to go through.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why the SNES version over the PS1 version? Was planning on playing Wiz1-3 myself.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          My phone isn't too good with DuckStation or ePSXe, battery dies like crazy and it stutters occasionally. I know for the later remakes (4 onwards) PSX is the far better decision I believe the developers of The Dark Spire made those and are very polished.
          Here's the menu settings for your PSX playthrough
          1. Message - Jap(1) Jap(2) English
          2. Monster name - Jap English
          3. Item name - Jap English
          4. Spell Name - Jap English
          5. Monster Display - Classic Playstation
          6. Dungeon - Wireframe Polygon
          7. Sound - Stereo Mono
          8. BGM - ON OFF
          9. Sound Effects - ON OFF
          10. Combat Effects - ON OFF
          11. Automap - ON OFF
          12. Controller Settings
          13. Exit

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'd say the SNES version has the benefit of classic OST. PS1 has brand new songs, which while also very good, are not iconic.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sell me on Undernauts. I've recently finished Dungeon Travelers 2-2 and it was one of the best games I've ever played.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, it's way worse than DT in almost every conceivable way. Not a selling point but you have to know what you're getting into.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did Steam's troony approval team ever address the DT controversy?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you played any other Experience crawlers it's like those but the job system is a little less interesting
        if you haven't you're better off starting with Demon Gaze or maybe Sword City

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Undernaut is the dev’s attempt to balance the gameplay. In the previous games, the physical classes can use their skills for zero MP and many of them are extremely strong. The artstyle of the game is very different from most other DRPGs too and has a basic story (not the go collect some artifacts an kill god type of basic). Also most Experience DRPGs share the same universe for better or worse

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >In the previous games, the physical classes can use their skills for zero MP and many of them are extremely strong

          Not really. Those skills, such as the samurai's multirow attack, allow for faster battles but don't actually reduce the challenge of the fights. They weren't strong enough to be decisive in boss fights. What mattered the most was the gear and passive class abilities.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some anon recommend Kowloon and I was gonna try it but it's not so easy to cleanly download. He said it was the "La Mulana of Dungeon Crawlers" which is the best endorsement I could ever read.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bruh your Labyrinth of Galleria?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      i think i mistyped but galleria is 18 on that list
      massively intricate and far-reaching narrative, truly impressive
      huge improvements over the first game in terms of movement tech, biomes, and core systems
      however, things start to fall apart around the middle and you will eventually be asked to endure one of the most unforgivable post-games ever conceived

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Galleria's endgame isn't even that bad. It was truly bad before they patched in shortcuts and it was 30 hours long.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          yea i played it on the vita before the patched shortcuts
          it is still the antithesis of a video game, literally playing minesweeper for hours while spamming spoons to avoid all encounters and getting all of your itemization from random drops laying in the dungeon

          >1) demon gaze extra
          I have a lot of disagreements with your rankings. But as a fellow Demon Gaze Extra enjoyer, I salute you.

          thanks mang, just waiting for the EO sneethers to roast me

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >just waiting for the EO sneethers to roast me
            Don't solicit shitpost anon. When you type stuff like this when nothing of the sort is happening it's like you're jabbing at people to react which is kind of shitty.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              just drawing attention to the obvious exclusions, no need to coach me on shitposting anon i'm a grizzled veteran

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >just drawing attention to the obvious exclusions
                Sure but the way you do it "the EO sneethers" it's like you're trying to provoke a start. keked at someone saying "grizzled veteran" on Ganker but anyway, you should know then there's no point in soliciting shitpost.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                idk what sent you on this social signaling arc but i promise you everything will be okay if you just lurk a little moar and maybe actually talk about a video game or two

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >tries to invite shitpost
                >don't do that anon we can have a nice thread for once
                >instantly becomes defensive
                I misjudged your character. Suit yourself. End of conversation.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >[inane schizo babble]
                >[headcanon]
                yeah no worries man, i really appreciate the (You)s and free bumps. not very often we get to have a DRPG thread on Ganker so your efforts are appreicated

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                damn, you're a massive homosexual

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              My man posts this list occasionally, but it's so powerfully incoherent nobody would even bother talking shit about it.
              Also EO lives rent free in some people's mind. Drpg boogeyman that didn't have a new release in 20 years.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >in 20 years
                New stage any time now. Just you wait and see. Surely...

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >rent free
                Nobody was even talking about EO at all and all of a sudden EO shitposting for no apparent reason. I sort of got the idea maybe there's some unresolved issues from other drpg threads and he felt like reviving that. Dude turned out to be a complete shitposter when I politely pointed this out so I'm starting to think maybe drpg threads are schizo territory.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's just a special boy.
                Plays a bunch of random drpgs and brings them up, which I'm kind of glad for, but his opinions about them always clash with me so I ignore them. vrpg has crawling threads that are usually EOfree but making fun of some indie crawler/experienceslop always marks you as EO fanboy that can't appreciate bad dungeon crawlers

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >waiting for the EO sneethers to roast me
            I actually just assumed you hadn't tried them yet.
            I mean. Even if you hate them that's fine. I'd staunchly disagree, but whatever floats your boat. Though you didn't include them in the -do not recommend tier-, so you probably don't hate them.
            Not making it into the top 20 is still well. Interesting.

            So I am curious though. Anything special about them you felt is missing or rubs you the wrong way?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              nope, they're good i just wanted to bring light to the games that aren't EO as they tend to be the only games in discussion if you go to places like /vrpg/, to the point that they say it is the "golden standard" of crawlers and shit on any game that isn't EO.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i just wanted to bring light to the games that aren't EO
                >that's why I mentioned EO sneethers out of nowhere
                You're not being very coherent here, anon.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                looking forward when you actually start posting about a video game, anon friend

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >to the point that they say it is the "golden standard" of crawlers and shit on any game that isn't EO.
                Yeah. I love Etrian Odyssey. But it's kind of sad when it turns out like this.
                Other DRPGs are real good too.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              The "do not recommend" continue the count where the main list stopped, so either he did not try EO or he did try it but it's even below "do not recommend". Whatever that means.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been wanting to try one of these for a while but could never pick one since they all seem pretty similar to each other. If I played only one of these which one should I go for? Cute girls are a plus.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was never alive at all

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      But enough about me

      I just download games and don't play them these days.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        he's hot

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    chibi erotic ToT

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know the SNES/PS1 version is the best versions of Wizardry 1-3, but what's the best versions of the later wizardry games?

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not big into the genre but I loved etrian odyssey 4 and hated mary skelter 2
    any recommendations?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Strange Journey

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        you might like the OP's game actually, mon-yu
        extremely light on story (almost non-existent)
        emphasis on beating bosses under certain conditions for a satisfying challenge
        emphasis on 'blind' mapping and dancing/manipulating roaming enemies

        i'll check 'em out thank you

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you might like the OP's game actually, mon-yu
      extremely light on story (almost non-existent)
      emphasis on beating bosses under certain conditions for a satisfying challenge
      emphasis on 'blind' mapping and dancing/manipulating roaming enemies

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >mon-yu

        Level caps are a huge turn-off for me.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          the level caps are pretty cool imo
          eveling a character does not take long, and i rarely went over 1.5 hrs of dedicated grinding in a single dungeon. levels determine general stats as well as what skills you have access to. early on this limitations will cause you to potentially skew your levels towards one character just to access their skills for a boss fight.
          independent to character levels are skill point accumulation and gear upgrades. every piece of a gear has an EXP bar and will automatically upgrade itself until it reaches that levels max rank. skill points are not capped in any form and will be slowly accrued over the course of the game. all this means that even if you are fiddling with the limitations in pursuit of the S rank evaluation, you can still be progressing in other ways.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >WHAT? I CAN'T JUST GRIND TO WIN?

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes and it's mostly because they never have a decent budget
    I'm sick of shitty pngs give me some nice animations

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm trying to make a dungeon crawler and I'm good at coding and I'm okay at modeling, but holy frick am I garbage at texturing. I have no idea what I'm doing, how do people do this?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      its my dream too, hoping if i live to 50 i will make my first dungeon crawler

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      RT, texturing is fairly straightforward, but depends HEAVILY on your art style. Lower poly stuff leans heavier on it's textures, so your pixels need to be on point. 2000-2015 stuff usually uses slightly doctored photographs for textures. Very recent stuff uses substance painter, and you can find HUGE repositories online. https://www.textures.com/library Used to be free, but is now $10/year which is a steal. Here's some others:

      https://www.cgbookcase.com/
      http://texturelib.com/
      https://3dassets.one/#order=latest
      https://cloud.blender.org/p/textures/
      https://www.texturecan.com/category/Ground/2/

      Study up on your material graphs and you'll make cool stuff in no time.

      Go out and make your dream come true!

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks anon
        >Very recent stuff uses substance painter
        Does this mean that armors in games like Dragon's Dogma 2 with all their details and shit are hand painted?

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I kinda wish there were some co-op dungeon crawlers
    Just delving or clearing out a map while you and your bro split up would be fun

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      My plan is to eventually make one of those. Barony is the closest you can get right now

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Forewarned is kind of like that, but doesn't really have combat since all you can do is avoid monsters or use your torch to scare them off. And it's got some design issues, but I'm hoping the major 1.0 update in two weeks addresses some of them.

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Damn if only the character portraits in this game weren't chibi. Some of them are pretty seggs.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      become chibisexual

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish Dragon's Dogma 2 had more dungeons. I love when games that aren't really dungeon crawlers have huge dungeons.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you finish it?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I beat it. There were some cool smaller dungeons here and there, but nothing close to what I hoped.

        Based Dragqueen Dogma shill in a thread for a different genre

        Settle down, dungeons are an integral part to the entire RPG genre. Some of the best dungeons in games aren't even from dungeon crawlers themselves.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based Dragqueen Dogma shill in a thread for a different genre

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What actually makes a good dungeon crawler? The template seems very simple and there doesn't seem to be a high standard for dungeon design when you consider the most praised Dungeon Crawlers are Strange Journey and Etrian Odyssey.
    I don't see many people praising stories other.
    Does it just have to have a decent gameplay flow (as in: not too tedious) and appealing visuals?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think if you spend the entirety of the game in a dungeon, it's a dungeon crawler. Gameplay has vary in any way, we have turned based, real time, it's really whatever you want. King's Field 3 is considered a dungeon crawler and only like half that game takes place in dungeons compared to KF1,2, and 4.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      the teleport maze

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Could we consider Digital Devil Saga a dungeon crawler then?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      IMO, in no order:
      - traditional level design: warping puzzles, one way doors, conveyor movement, spell restricted zones switch puzzles etc.
      - modern crawler qol: fast menuing, cursor memory, repeat inputs, auto-map movement that lets you quicksnap to exits and move across multiple floors and even through teleporters
      - classes with defined roles and stat allocation which determines stat growth on creation. at least 5 party members on a team
      - art style and atmosphere, monster variety
      - (personal preference) large item pool with tiered weapons that can be saught out for
      - (personal preference) story (Labyrinth of Refrain - delving into a dungeon becomes the perfect setting for a psychological/traumatic inquiry) or heavy emphasis on charactrers/personalities who are fun to get to know (Dungeon Travelers)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      * Dungeon design that doesn't look like someone randomly scribbled paths and rooms in an editor

      * Allow more variety in viable party compositions even for post games. For example, you shouldn't be forced to have a tank character just so you can have a fighting chance in a boss battle.

      * Each class should be good based on their own individual merits, not something that you're forced to have for your party.

      * Fallback solutions for not having certain classes in your party. For example, healing potions should be available if you don't have a healer.

      * Rare weapons, armor, and items should be nice-to-haves, not something that's required to beat the game in a reasonable amount of time or used for QoL improvements

      * Level drain attacks should be recoverable or reasonably preventable instead of forcing you to waste hours to grind again

      * Attacks that affect status alignments or cause instant death should be proportional to the ease of recovery or defense from them. For example, if there are many enemies that poison you easily, there should be a easy to obtain item or potion or spell to defend or recover from poison.

      * Character stats shouldn't be capped, especially if the postgame is much longer than the actual game.

      * Allowing the option of leveling as the fallback solution to beat the game

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm playing Artificial Dream in Arcadia right now and it is extreme Classic-MegaTen kino.

    I was just thinking "the only problem with this game is no level-up music" and the creator posted a video showing new level-up music just this morning.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just wished we weren't playing as sumishitko

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wanted to point out that the grandaddy of them all is getting a fresh coat of paint:
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2518960/Wizardry_Proving_Grounds_of_the_Mad_Overlord/

    Also, if you like emulation, Dark Spire on DS is pretty cool.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no japanese text
      Its like that want to lose money

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I played one of these games and it was crazy flicking on the line art mode. I didn't even know these games were from before the Atari.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Dark Spire is so great. I actually haven't played an actual Wizardry game that I liked more than The Dark Spire.

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm enjoying Maomao but I think it needs a bit more depth.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      baste sexo enjoyer

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I liked maomao's game. Debuff stacking is fun.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        How do I give the girls on the left things like Gigant God spear?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          you unlock and level skills from the assist menu. Every girl has 4, each unique to each girl. To get the girl who uses gigant god spear you need to beat that optional side dudgeon. "side dungeon" is calling it a bit much since it's just a straight hallway boss rush but as you can see you need to be pretty high level to beat it

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    someone from Ganker made this btw

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2248430/Touhou_Artificial_Dream_in_Arcadia/

    don't let your dreams be memes

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      touhou fangames of other games always amaze me, castlevania, pokemon, Megaman.exe, now SMT

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why is that SMT specifically, as opposed to any other dungeon crawler? Honest question.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          well for one, the UI design is extremely SMT-esque, as well as the sprites themselves

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can just tell when something is influenced by SMT

          "They Speak from the Abyss: Zenith" was another game I tried which had a distinctly SMT-inspired style.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          well for one, the UI design is extremely SMT-esque, as well as the sprites themselves

          if i had one of those multi-image mosiac things people post it would probably help too

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ok I will assume you never played SMT1/2 if you have to ask this after looking at that game.
          >It looks in style of I and II
          >Party members aren't created by you, just monsters you "recruit"
          >Fusion system that lets you mix monsters together to get "new" ones inheriting some/all the skills
          >Moving costs [currency] based on your party size/strength
          >Elemental weakness system making you adjust your party between dungeons
          >MC dies game over
          Probably some other shit I forgot since I'm moronic, but I think that's enough to call something smtlike, alignment system would be probably the only big thing missing.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wait how is it that this has more attention on steam than Monyu from a proper company?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        experience is a studio of like literal 10 employees from japan, they didn't really market the game well over here and it also dropped on steam with the tone-deaf pricing model from the nintendo e-shop

        the touhou game has an already established fanbase, dev was constantly posting updates about progress in various boards and it already has a very strong fanbase worldwide

        i want experience to succeed but yeah they certainly never do themselves any favors. if anything they are most successful with their visual novels but that has a more general appeal of "j-horror"

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Monyu is fricking shit, also pretty sure it's a fully priced game and the SMT one isn't. 2hu is probably also a bonus(and a detriment, since there was some shitposting regarding the dev, but that's probably niche enough)

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's 2hu.

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the best dungeon crawler on steam that I can play on my deck?

    Lewd preferred but not required.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wizardry 6

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      literally everything on this list

      i have beaten (literally finished) 24 DRPGs
      my ranking:
      1) demon gaze extra
      2) dungeon travelers 2-2
      3) severed (yes it is technically still a DRPG https://www.dungeoncrawlers.org/definition/)
      4) labyrinth of refrain: coven of dusk
      5) undernauts: labyrinth of yomi
      6) zanki zero: last beginning
      7) strange of sword city revisited
      8) tokyo clanpool (JOP bros only)
      9) SMT strange journey redux
      10) demon gaze II
      11) mon-yu
      12) moero crystal H
      13) ray gigant
      14) operation babel
      15) wizard's symphony (JOP bros only)
      16) konosuba: labyrinth of hope and gathering of adventures (Vita)
      17) fight knight (it's a DRPG, see above definition + cope)
      18) coven of labyrinth
      ----- do not recommend tier -------
      19) dungeon travelers 2
      20) mary skelter 2
      21) saviors of sapphire wings
      23) live in dungeon
      24) labyrinth cross blood: infinity (JOP bros only)

      can be played on a deck, especially since vita3k emulation has improved massively in the last 6 months.

      if you dont want to pay out the ass for demon gaze extra you can just emulate the switch version too

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      PS1 version of SMT

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    All the dungeon crawlers I've beaten sorted by rank:
    You need to FRICKING Play This Tier:
    >The Dark Spire
    You Need to Play This Tier:
    >Ultima Underworld
    >Madou Monogatari
    >Seisou no Amazonnes
    >Brandish
    >SMT Strange Journey
    >King's Field IV
    >Brandish 2
    >Etrian Odyssey IV
    >Etrian Odyssey Untold 2
    Pretty Damn Good Tier:
    >Eye of the Beholder
    >Phantasy Star
    >King's Field Additional
    >Legend of Grimrock
    >Etrian Odyssey V
    >Etrian Odyssey Untold
    Eh, Skippable Tier:
    >Wizardry Tales of the Forsaken Land
    >Persona 1
    >SMT Soul Hackers
    >Shin Megami Tensei
    >King's Field
    >Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable

    In case anyone is looking for something to play.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      king's field games aren't grid based movement

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some folk are a little loose with the term 'dungeon crawler'. For purists it most definitely includes tile based movement. For others it just means the majority of the game is a big dungeon.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Some folk are a little loose with the term 'dungeon crawler'.
          It is as worthless as Rogue-like if used on steam to try and find dungeon crawlers. you will get 90% ARPGs like diablo or "roguelikes" as they are also apparently dungeon crawlers, metroidvanias, and shmups now too.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just lob it under dungeon crawler. Because frick if Ultima Underworld-likes aren't allowed to be in the same genre.

        >untold
        Classic or Story?

        >Classic or Story?
        It's not really an either or. They're in the same game and they're both good.

        >phantasy star
        >dungeon crawler
        nani

        >phantasy star
        >dungeon crawler
        Yes.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >untold
      Classic or Story?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >phantasy star
      >dungeon crawler
      nani

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        the first one is

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          are we talking about Phantasy Star 1?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The game is only partly dungeon crawling.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        its just like with "roguelike" becoming oversaturated with games that aren't actually roguelikes

        easy to be confused
        https://www.dungeoncrawlers.org/definition/

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Could be worse.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >gaben ruining genres
            for what purpose

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]

          >Note: This definition is the subjective opinion of dungeoncrawlers.org and may not correlate with other peoples idea of a dungeon crawler.
          nah, frick them.

          Based on the steam reviews, it looks like they made this game artificially difficult with ridiculous mechanics making you lose most of your money after death but you also need money to resurrect your characters, creating a catch-22 situation.

          i don't remember death being that punishing. the problem is going back in retrieving the corpses. the game constantly gives you new characters with higher levels though so you probably just end up switching them out instead of levelling so might as well ignore some low level dead guys.
          Also more annoyingly if characters got lost in any other way (i think some monsters had moves to blow them away or if you drop into a hole that's not above any tile of the floors below) they end up lost and wandering on a random floor. it will tell you their position but it can be a floor way farther then you currently are.
          I think the money problem is people running into the thieves or ninjas or what they were early on. They'll steal your money. a lot of it in one move. and they can put you into debt.
          But if all enemy encounters until then were numbered 01-02-03-... and suddenly it jumps to F3 they should expect something fricky is going on with that.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't know about that, just found about it doing some research now but for me it's just too little to be considered a dungeon crawler tbh

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            well you're moronic

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh frick I forgot the Orcs & Elves games.
      Those are both in pretty damn good tier.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Dark Spire at the top

      Is this a joke? It's an okay game but I wouldn't consider it a need-to-fricking-player.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no Elminage
      >only Wizardry title is the most kino one and is on the skippable tier

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Dark Spire
      i searched on youtube and the only gameplay is a 40 year old man with glasses playing it...

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah its a genre for men in their 30/40's
        what did you expect

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          i'm just saying anon. take it for what you will..

          For what it's worth, I'm skipping through the gameplay and it looks good, I'm surprised that I have never heard of it before since it's so old

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i really want another Zanki Zero game

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mary Skelter was all over the place as a series but I really liked maintaining 3 separate teams in Finale and tagging between them
    the story was all over the place too but it had some good beats

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    King's Field 4 is my favorite dungeon crawler. I wish there were more ADCs (action dungeon crawlers)
    >tfw no Deep Down

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pikmin 2 is my favorite action dungeon crawler

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      So do I. I tried Devil Spire but the enemy and floor designs were extremely boring.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      theres Labyrinth Of The Demon King thats being made and dread delusion in EA just off the top of my head.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Any news on Labyrinth of the Demon King?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://twitter.com/RemuDaifuku/status/1774061813610799156

          this was posted end of last month, so its still being made I guess

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    SMT-likes you run through different biomes to find monsters, capture them and evolve them. Then you use them to battle other monsters.

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should they be moron proof or should DRPGs mock the player for doing stupid shit?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      now this is /vrpg/ thread

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That board still exists?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          fell off pretty hard, and got infested with westapigs after buldur's gate bullshit

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    what game is this?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      read the thread Black person

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who's only played Legend of Grimrock 1-2, what should I play next? Preferably something with keyboard shortcuts for attacks and a lot of atmosphere

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any games with "disposable" party members? Kinda like pawns in Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen with Bitterblack Isle. You can have pawns get debilitations like petrification, but you can decide whether or not to actually heal them because you might save the items for yourself for when you might get it. Knowing that your pawn will die, but you can keep going knowing that you'll eventually be able to get another pawn. Longevity for your own character or keeping a party member alive, if you guys get what I mean.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based Dragqueen Dogma shill in a thread for a different genre

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      not intentional but ray gigant because you can juice the 'leader' of your party with upgrade perks for each chapter and let every one of your other party members die and solo the whole thing

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    My first ever Experience DRPG game was Operation Abyss (pirated). I dont know why, but I liked the premise of that game. You're sending a bunch of superpowered highschoolers into abandoned places with urban legends like abandoned apartments, hospitals, tunnels, etc. The story is stupid as frick but the eerie music and the ambiance and the eroguro element is kinda appealing to me. Also because the enemies have some unique description lines for their attacks like eels when attacking would say "Mysterious Creature A starts electrocuting Yuki's crotch! Yuki takes 45 damage!"

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dungeon crawler
    >with matchmaking being a mechanic
    >and also NTR
    based?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bottom right
      That seems weirdly familiar

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Yuri focused
      I shall not be engaging with your game. Sorry! It's just... haha, sorry! I won't.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What game?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://store.steampowered.com/app/2525810/Witch_and_Lilies/

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lot of big names and money to put towards something that is a niche of a niche.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >yuri
      Ugh

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fricking SEXO!

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yuri is fine. I just want some of those Experience eroguro stuff that's present in most of their titles like Undernauts.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Look at the game trailer. They are leaning hard on the cute girls fighting horrors deal that Experience has.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >NTR
      huh?

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    For what do you crawl the dungeons?
    Loot, group building, challenge, dungeon, MAPPING, wife?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Loot, group building, challenge, dungeon, MAPPING, wife?
      To live on the edge.

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you map every tile on the automap?
    I do and feel autistic for it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Pits and damage tiles are a real b***h and a half without some sort of float spell.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're supposed to

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      If a floor has one way doors, and a visible sign > < ^ v when you go through them, I go through them all. Even when I know theres a hole gimmick on the other side, that simply goes down 5 stories below and you have to walk through static respawns back up each time.
      If a game lets me respawn and theres a poison zone then I suicide through it just to add one more tick on the map, even when I know I'll get an immunity later.
      I hate it. But I cant stop. I love it.

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any good scifi aesthetic ones? Not to familiar with the genre but I had fun with demon gaze on the vita a month ago.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Never played it but SMT Strange Journey gets talked about a lot.

  51. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked Unchained Blades on the PSP/3DS. Its mostly story character focused though so no create-a-units. I wish they'd port it to steam and localize the other games.

  52. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always buy them because I have a compulsion to save the genre, but I rarely ever finish them.

  53. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any of these games with actually good environments? I playing demo gaze like that one anon suggested but the levels are really fricking bland and lifeless. And by that I specifically mean how empty the maps feel not really the aesthetic.
    Level design is alright but tile after tile of the exact same sprites is tiring.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This whole genre is designed around being able to tile the backgrounds, that's kind of just how it is.

      Kowloon Highschool Chronicle has more "bespoke" dungeon rooms though, with big setpieces etc, because it's more focused on puzzles than being a maze.

  54. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Turn based dog shit like this deserves to die. It's pointless to make a complex dungeon map and then have combat that doesn't take place on the map. It is agonizing to explore a maze while being shunted to a JRPG battle screen every 10 steps. Wizardy and Dragon Quest are the worst designed games ever made.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if I dont like thing nobody should enjoy thing
      You should join the woke movement they are all about that

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If only the israelites would put their money towards stopping people from making combat-screen dungeon crawlers instead of stopping people from making pretty girls.

  55. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    wew

  56. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    She had a hard life

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      *fish on head*

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          me on top

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does this game pick up after the 2nd boss? Because while I certainly like the story bits, the gameplay is putting me to sleep

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        dungeon exploration is really cool in that game but actual combat/team organization is underwhelming. i would describe the game as surface level complex, especially when all the interesting covens aren't even available until late game when they've lost their opportunity to be good

        the sequel improves on many aspects related to this

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        assuming you're playing on nightmare and by 2nd boss you mean the witch in astrom the game will stop handholding you after the 3rd dungeon

  57. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any decent native mobile Dungeon Crawlers?

  58. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      oWo

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn Aquaplus and their hatred for the Switch.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I never liked 2-2 as much as the other games but Luco was truly best girl.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        2 and 2-2 are pretty close in quality imo

  59. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    For whatever reason in the last decade the genre became associated with handhelds. Handhelds went away and the genre fell off.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They should go back to PC. These games are maximum comfy with just keyboard(and maybe mouse) controls. It just feels right.

  60. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What dungeon crawler has the biggest maps? I want to be able to map out a city when I'm done, with 1 floor.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not as large as a city but tokyo clanpool had 32x32 grid maps except they emphasized both FAST movespeed and combat speed and gave you tools like jet packs and wallbreaking to blast through it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Original Vita Mary Skelter Non MS1/2 ver elsewhere (think you can still get the original on steam still too I forget).
      For Switch and rerelease PC they crunched down the maps.
      Original was frickhuge for no reason at all some times.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What dungeon crawler has the biggest maps? I want to be able to map out a city when I'm done, with 1 floor.

        Truly peak dungeon crawling

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          MS dungeon design felt pretty bad imo
          they only feel like 20% hand crafted

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            there's just nothing in them. no unique loot so no reason to map the whole thing

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Grimrock 2 has pretty gigantic floors.

  61. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are really niche but people still buy them. It's still much more niche compared to most other genres. Realistically, if a game wasn't a DRPG/Blobber and it has actual effort put into it, it would make 5-10x more in terms of profits.

  62. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    DT2 really was my favorite of these. Perfect storm of fun writing, cute girls, and good combat system with a well thought out job advancement mechanics.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      yep, they cracked the code
      never to be replicated again

  63. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is DT2-2 playable on steam deck?

  64. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I unironically really loved Zanki Zero. Being a dungeon crawler with realtime combat made it feel pretty interesting, on top of the other unique gimmicks like the aging and death systems.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >aging and death systems
      Is it like oreshika?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        All the characters in the game are clones with 13 day life cycles where they go through childhood, teenagerhood, adulthood and old age during that cycle. Each age has a different set of properties (charge speed, carrying capacity, damage multiplier, etc) and moving between floors of the dungeons increments the age counter on all your characters. On top of that, the clones retain their memories and skills between deaths, so whatever kills them gives them an unlockable buff to help them deal with it when they run into it again when they revive. So stuff like damage resistance to the type of damage the enemy does if they died to an attack, increased carrying capacity if they died while over encumbered, or improved performance in a certain age bracket if they died in that time period. This gets especially interesting when your units get desynched and you have a motley crew of kids, old people and units in their prime all with different unique buffs based on their previous deaths. And even your deaths can be productive because when you have a bunch of old units right at the end of their loops you can set up scenarios to kill them in unique ways to unlock good buffs and then return to base, get the newborn clones and start fresh.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay so it's a little bit like Oreshika.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      same, i think it was really ahead of its time.
      the gameplay loop is like Escape from Tarkov: the dungeon crawler
      my only gripe was the lack of build diversity which you would find in more traditional DRPGs

      and this isn't even talking about the story/setting which were really fricking wild and fleshed out

      still hoping against hope we get a sequel some day

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Zanki Zero is great, even if the plot gets moronic.
      The ending was pretty sad though, I was caught off guard with that.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      For me the problem with real time combat is that you can't make giant enemies without making them stationary. Might sound autistic but I expect to kill some big ass giants or gods in these kind of game, not a dragon that's no bigger than a standard tile.
      Also square dancing is gay.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        i dont hate strafe-stabbing crawlers as long as they don't give you the opportunity to evade every attack by square dancing

        some amounts damage should be inevitable, just like in any rpg system

  65. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i bought picrel and i thought it was pretty good,

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      undernauts is rad, pretty sure they are making a sequel to this as well

  66. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.youtube.com/user/expteammuramasa
    >last update 7 months ago
    experience bros....................................

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're working on at least 2 games now.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        pic isn't a dungeon crawler right? if i remember their preview from the end of last year this is supposed to be a genre game they've never done before

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          So they say but Undernauts was supposed to be a SRPG so I'd take that with a grain of salt.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Undernauts was supposed to be a SRPG
            Really? Interesting.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.gematsu.com/2016/05/experience-announces-yomi-wo-saku-hana-xbox-one
              Actually no, my memory was a bit fuzzy since that was announced so many years ago. But the original idea was something completely different from Undernauts.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hope the next Spirit Hunter game won't take another 4 years to come out.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          finished in JP last year, it's pretty decent
          the map movement looks and feels real fricking janky however, like FLASH game tier shit. not sure what they were thinking.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The sidescrolling format of Death Mark 2 is just heavily underused; there's no jumpscares, ambient animations or animations at all besides the protagonists. They might as well return to the dungeon crawl-lite format if they don't expand on it.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              agreed, i found the map movement of game 1/2 to be have the potential for a lot more spoops

              also something more unnerving about having to inspect static scenery for 'something'

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >finished in JP last year
            He is not talking about Shibito, that one is already out in the west under a different name. He probably means the next game after that.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              ahh sure

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yea needs to more scary and longer, spirit hunter 2 was not great

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hope they priced/market them correctly next time.

  67. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I got kinda burnt out with Undernauts before I finished it, would I enjoy Etrian Odyssey or Labyrinth of Refrain meaningfully more? I found the constant random battles kinda boring since it was a foregone conclusion that I'd win.

  68. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Dragon Quest Walk forever locked away as Japan exclusive
    The best thing to ever come out of Square and made by Square yet they refuse to bring it over elsewhere. Frick everything

  69. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whats a good babbies first drpg?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      demon gaze extra

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      SMT Strange Journey

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Try Etrian Odyssey, it's at the top for a reason. There are a bunch of other games in the genre that are also pretty good, but there is also a lot of legit garbage.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      SMT SJ or EOIV.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      EOIV

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://store.steampowered.com/app/2518960/Wizardry_Proving_Grounds_of_the_Mad_Overlord/

  70. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i wish more drpgs had better atmosphere, its always uguu cute anime girls fighting cutesy monsters or a really bright, friendly artstyle

    i hate it so much

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's always uguu cute
      it's not, thougheverally.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        most of them do thougheveralbeit

  71. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    what was that dungeon crawler that some guy literally spent 30 years working on and went around marketing it as the greatest dungeon crawler ever made and then when it released everyone roasted him for it being wildly obtuse and impossible to understand if you hadn't been the literal developer

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you guys 'thal enough to play a real dungeon crawler instead of your sissy anime ones?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        kek, thanks

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly it is pretty good, if he had mamaged to release it 30 years ago and had the manual out at launch it would probably be considered a classic. The modern audience can't handle retro drpg jank, though

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            yea i've just been waiting for it to be polished off
            i'm down to give it another 10 years :^)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Grimwah

  72. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i liek dungeon crawlers.

  73. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    not first person but i enjoyed playing through these grid based dungeon crawlers

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1754460/QUESTER/
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2731640/QUESTER__OSAKA/

  74. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    what are some must play blobbers/drpgs that are not wizardry?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      EO.
      Nothing else matters.

  75. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The NTR dungeon crawler (the cuckshed one) is coming out this year and I'm genuinely hyped for it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dungeon and Bride.
        It's a dungeon crawler where your party members are custom heroine, and they can get raped and cucked.
        The game features diablo/resident evil inventory system, fully interactable clothes (There's shirt, pants, underwear, etc you get the idea, and they can get damaged in battle), skill tree, and other neat stuff.

        The cuckshed system basically is the inn where you recover your HP. Staying at the inn in this game means you need to assign room to your girls and also the chad who is helping your party manually, however not all inn are equal. Each inn have occupancy limit and ranks, furthermore your party have preferences too. For example the girls need to stay at C rank room at least, while the chad need to stay at B rank room at least. Now what happen if the inn you're staying doesn't have enough room, or you don't have enough gold to pay for the high rank room? You'll end up assigning the girl and the chad to the same room, while you yourself stay in the barn, hence the cuckshed meme.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Huh? So you play as a male with a party of women? And a separate male is cucking you? Or the party is all women cuckqueaning each other?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            it looks like this so I wouldn't get interested if I were you

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I wouldn't play a nuDRPG that isn't playable on Vita or Switch anyway.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                what a dumbfrick statement
                also steamdecks exist

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why? It's dumb that I don't like PC gaming when the games I want to play are available on things I already own? Oh, yes, let me buy a Deck to play games I can already get on Vita or Switch! Because why spend $400 on games when I can spend it on another game platform?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      should be lit

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The NTR dungeon crawler (the cuckshed one) is coming out this year and I'm genuinely hyped for it.
      Do we have a date? I've been kind of curious about this game.

  76. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Recommend me babbys first dungeon crawler with hot anime waifus in it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Labyrinth of refrain

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      demon gaze extra
      dungeon travelers 2

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      uhh here bro

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://store.steampowered.com/app/1570510/Undernauts_Labyrinth_of_Yomi/

  77. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone beat this game's post game?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Allucard?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Got burned out just before reaching the tower. Maybe I'll come back later.

  78. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      what a shit screenshot
      but based maomao enjoyer

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        All my other maomaoumauos are too lewd

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          baste vitagenner

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          have this hastily made maomao webm then

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            K I N O
            I
            N
            O

  79. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    are there seriously no new DRPGs on the horizon?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Someone mentioned Witch and Lilies. There's also the recently out of early access Ludus Mortis which no one has talked about in here.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have you even beat Hentai Labyrinth or Rance VI?

  80. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't even beat Rothdam

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      /vrpg/ as frick in here

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      wut game

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://web.archive.org/web/20190129201220fw_/http://www.geocities.jp/vipkohaku2010_1/entry/040.html

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >指定されたページは存在しません。
          >お客様が指定されたページは存在しません。もう一度URLをご確認ください。
          Well I'm sure it was cool.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://freegame.gamewiki.jp/rosudamu1/
            yeah it is
            also it's literally "Rothdam" dumbfrick anon

  81. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >time between EO1 and EO2: 13 months
    >time between EO2 and EO3: 26 months
    >time between EO3 and EO4: 27 months
    >time between EO4 and EO5: 4 years
    >time since EO5: almost 8 years

    I'm sad...

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>time between EO2 and EO3: 26 months
      >>time between EO3 and EO4: 27 months
      Crazy these 2 took mostly the same time considering the jump to 3ds and 3D gimmicks.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        4 was a much smaller game than 3 in floorspace

  82. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hope not i want another etrian NOW!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      boy do I have bad news for you

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Next Stage is accepting death anon.

  83. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dungeon encounters was neat. Combat could have used a bit more depth but otherwise i loved the overly simplistic presentation. But the part i enjoy the most in DRPGs is running around the map and colouring in squares avoiding every enemy encounter until i am too underlevelled at the next boss so this game is pretty much just perfect for me.

    Now to pick up one of the other million DRPGs i started and never finished...
    Also, where does DRPG end and JRPG begin? is Voice of Cards a DRPG?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      low effort trash from a huge publisher and not even priced accordingly. pathetic. delete this post and lets forget it even existed

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      its just like with "roguelike" becoming oversaturated with games that aren't actually roguelikes

      easy to be confused
      https://www.dungeoncrawlers.org/definition/

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based on the steam reviews, it looks like they made this game artificially difficult with ridiculous mechanics making you lose most of your money after death but you also need money to resurrect your characters, creating a catch-22 situation.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It really is true RPG kino, I've always maintained that game systems should put players in interesting situations otherwise what even is the point of engaging with them.
        >Robbed by ninjas now I'm in debt
        >Wasn't paying attention when exploring and fell off, now searching for my lost party members
        >Corpse retrieval tension
        >Oh no my character is petrified let's leave him and search for a cure

        I've played very few dungeon crawlers that feel like dungeon crawlers, DE is the one that comes closest. It's basically Mordor: Depths of Dejenol 2.

        My only gripe is the presentation, I'm 100% certain it'd have been more successful if they went with a more appealing presentation like Voice of Cards.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it looks like they made this game artificially difficult with
        >resource scarcity that can result in a failure stat
        That's called REAL difficulty, boy.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          correct

  84. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, and thats a godo thing

  85. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You just need marketability. For instance weebs and weebettes are crazy about Dungeon Meshi, more so the latter so make a casual-friendly comfy DRPG based on that with an optional hardcore mode for all the dedicated fans of the genre. Etrian Odyssey on 3DS with the cooking already does it, kinda.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every played shikabane kurai? It's terribly awful but it has a lot of what you are advocating for.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >shikabane kurai
        Nope, looks interesting though. Have you played Monster Menu?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Apparently that's just the western name. What of it?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh that's why, I googled Shikabane and it reminded me of Monster Menu.

  86. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's with all the crawler threads lately?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a fallout new vegas television thread died for this

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Look don't pull that autism I'm genuinely asking because I recently got into the genre and have now seen like 4 threads in like 3 days despite almost never seeing them before.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Gangstalking.
          Take out your trash you lazy bastard.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have no idea, but I won't complain.

  87. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know what to play next help.
    I'm this >673342687 fricker for reference.

  88. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Evenicle was the best dungeon crawler since Strange Journey.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      heard they fricked up the sequel in every way possible

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sequels should be illegal.

  89. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe frickers won't port Strange Journey when Nocturne and SMTV are on most plats now

  90. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How's this one? Looks cool.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nip Wizardry is almost always kino

      how did you manage to do that? I never got anything like that

      NTA but if it's a PC game use CheatEngine, I do it with all jarpigs

  91. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've played and beat EO1 + 2, SMT: SJ, and Labyrinth of Refrain + Galleria. I really like how these games were done and I really like when there's a story. I'm planning on playing the rest of the EO games, I bought but haven't played Elminage yet. I've considered Soul Hackers and I have Rance 6 downloaded but haven't played yet. Are there any other DRPGs that have story that's not completely moronic?

  92. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dying purely because of studios being afraid to take a plunge.
    BG3 proved that people crave more turn based slop. If Atlus wasn't moronic and sold them for 5 dollars like a gateway drug the genre would've flourished.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      People play WRPGs to frick weird creatures, the combat system is completely irrelevant.

  93. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Demon Gaze 2 any good?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sure

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