Doesn’t seem right does it? I guess witcher 2 and 3 basically were wrpgs in genre as cdpr decided to just copy wrpg design. Where with witcher 2 they copied old bioware design, and witcher 3 and cyberpunk they copied Bethesda. But witcher 1 was very different from most wrpgs.
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Witcher 1 is Biowarian
Didn’t feel that way to me. Bioware has many small zones you can do in any order that have one main quest attached and then you move on. Witcher 1 had small zones but they were very different from bioware zones. And they were places you came back to later for main quests too like in act 3 where the act 2 area is still relevant. There are also many more npcs that you need to talk to than what you’d get in a bioware game. It was far more complex when it came to npcs interaction than a bioware game. Maybe you could say it was similar to very old bioware like bg2 bioware.
makes sense as it was literally made on neverwinter nights engine
The mouse cursor gives it away.
Witcher 1 was more a classic PC rpg like might & magic / wizardry, with awkward controls and lots of obscure shit hidden in menus. That provides 'depth' but also require severe autism to understand and enjoy.
You're wrong about witcher 3, they didn't copy bethesda, they copied ubisoft, by vomiting irrelevant side objective markers all over the map with a few actually engaging side stories + simplified action combat to engage more of the adhd zoomer normie audience, and it worked.
>You're wrong about witcher 3, they didn't copy bethesda, they copied ubisoft
Yes I think that’s a better comparison actually. It wasn’t until cyberpunk that they copied Bethesda.
>It wasn’t until cyberpunk that they copied Bethesda.
Cyberpunk is literally far cry 3
>cyberpunk
>copying bethesda
?
Seems very similar to skyrim or fallout to me.
It's much more GTA than it is skyrim or fallout
Skyrim is of the same genre as GTA.
GTA and skyrim are of the same genre as far cry
Now you're getting it.
nah it's more like far cry
it's not like bethesda could model vehicles with their engine anyways
There is no such thing as a wrpg. Witcher 1 is an aurora engine game anyways, ie goyslop.
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Nothing about that is bait. WRPG is not a term and all aurora engine games are atrocious moron games.
"WRPG is not a term."
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It's not. There is NO SUCH THING AS A WRPG. The term does not mean anything. The term JRPG exists because jrpgs do not play like rpgs and therefore must be categorized seperately.
"NO SUCH THING AS A WRPG"
Skyrim. Checkmate.
Skyrim is an action adventure game, its not an rpg at all. WRPG is a made up term to force a "JRPG vs WRPG" dichotomy, but that doesn't work. It's "JRPG vs CRPG" or "JRPG vs ARPG". WRPG is not a meaningful categorization and it's meant for slop consumers to gaslight their way into a discussion they do not belong in. JRPG is a derogatory term in its origin, which is to say "this rpg was made in Japan so it must be for children".
“Skyrim not an rpg.”
But anon I…I role played more in that game than any other game ever. So…Yes it is.
No you didn't. Roleplaying not imagining interactions in your brain. Skyrim is almost completely devoid of any level of reactivity and completely lacks any C&C. Even the experience of playing as an argonian is identical to playing as a nord. You know what? just shut the frick up and frick off to Ganker or wherever it is you "roleplaying" cretins come from
>just shut the frick up and frick off to Ganker or wherever it is you "roleplaying" cretins come from
Imagine being this mad about roleplaying in a roleplaying game. Whew lad.
None of you gays ever even say what’s better than Skyrim. I’ve asked like 10 of you. I’m beginning to think it’s all a larp. That everyone loves the game and only pretend to trash it.
Yeah, well, like, man, who’s to say that, like, anything is, like, anything, man, it’s all, just, like, labels, man, that someone just, like, made up, man, it’s all just, like, what even is, like, anything, man, it’s just like, who can even know, man, you don’t know, like, what anything even, like, is, man
They're geographical terms. Any RPG made in Japan is a JRPG and any RPG made west of Asia is a WRPG.
>They're geographical terms
Incorrect, you just want to force tribalism over a term obviously made to describe distinctive traits. No one is calling Demon's Souls a jrpg. If the term is geographical then it may as well not exist. Given that the majority of Starfield was made by Asians, (pajeets) this, by your definition, would mean it is a jrpg as it was a creation of the eastern hemisphere.
You could argue that Starfield is a Judeo-Pajeet Rpg. Global homosexual slop mixed with terrible programming, UI, overall design.
Is forspoken a jrpg or a wrpg?
Jrpg. Fantastical design. Lame UI with too much shit on the screen. Extremely good mechanics but totally wasted in a shitty world. All the hallmarks of a Japanese rpg. A dash of Judeo values thrown in.
>Extremely good mechanics
Well then, you don't seem like a reasonable person worth listening to.
The movement of the character, magic system, enemy attacks, all above standard western action. Simple as.
>Extremely good mechanics
It's literally just an insomniac game knock off. It's distinctly western in its design philosophy and you are praising it for its western features while maligning it for its eastern ones.
Nothing about this game looks western to me but the lead character. Nothing
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This is just Spiderman, infamous, prototype, etc.
If I could move like this in a world like Skyrim I would be happy.
But it's a JRPG. So it's a big empty world with nobody to talk to, and nothing to do. Listen you asked what it was, and it's a completely Japanese game. What western game puts that much effort in the environment, and the buildings, animations, how magic looks. None of them. Only Asian games go that deep in design and then present a shit empty world to explore.
Even Spiderman is totally different. It's one modern city, an existing city. It's might have action movement but it's very different.
>Even Spiderman is totally different. It's one modern city, an existing city. It's might have action movement but it's very different.
No, it's the same exact game mechanics with a different map. You honestly sound like a complete moron.
Sorry you don’t understand subtlety. It’s like calling Bach and Beethoven the same thing.
Look at this compared to forespoken Literally ugly as shit. Doesn't move as smoothly. Animations not crisp, no insane magic. When he lands on the ground some generic little puff of dust comes up that looks like shit. It's completely fricking different than every aspect of forespoken assets being beautiful and perfect.
Another comparison is like comparing a Japanese Tea ceremony to an American boiling water on the stove and pouring into a plastic mcdonalds cup with walmart tea in it. muh just a different tea my ass.
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>Look at this compared to forespoken
Looks like both games have an identical combo structure.
I haven't played Forespoken but just from clips, it looks very linear. Again, a very Japanese design philosophy. Make everything as beautiful as possible, curate every aspect of the game. Spiderman - Here's a city to explore.
>I haven't played Forespoken
Well shut up then moron
Then don't ask me about it b***h.
Didn't even say I was wrong. Pathetic.
Cherrypicking. Arkham games mog the entirety of Jap games when it comes to animations. You will never be Japanese, weabtard.
That's because the game world is the very soul, the focal point, of a trve RPG. The 'Elder Scrolls' is the closest to that and so people sub-consciously classify it as an RPG.
It's an RPG, but it is a bad game, and a terrible 'Fallout'.
Incorrect. Keep your gay hands from typing homosexual opinions.
>No one is calling Demon's Souls a jrpg.
I do. I only play games made in japan or Korea. I won’t spoil my souls playing disgusting westoid games.
>No one is calling Demon's Souls a jrpg.
I do
Noone is calling Demon's Souls a jrpg because it's an action game so an arpg, but if that term didn't exist of course people would call it a jrpg.
Japan is west of America so doesn't that make JRPGS WRPGS in the US of A
"Most wrpgs" are very different from each other. Even "bioware design" is different from game to game, even in the same periods; and no, dialogue wheels do not make DA and ME similar enough. This is yet another proof that there is no such thing as western rpgs. Also, why are you talking only about CDPR and making conclusions about "Eastern Europe"?
Correction. The term JRPG exists because there are a lot of jrpgs, and there are enough similarities uniting a lot, or most, of them. There is a japanese "school" of rpg design. There is no "school" in USA since the crisis of the genre in mid-90s. Those who survived developed differently, which is why "wrpgs" do not play like "wrpgs" and therefore must be either included in broadest RPG term or broken into many different categories. Even if you label "not an RPG" every thing you can, you'll still be left with M&M, Fallout and Gothic not fitting together in any category that could not also include JRPGs.
Though I guess Piranha Bytes' games could be categorized as ERPG. Together with CDPR's. And at least one Arcane's. And Larian's, for that matter.
Gothic is action adventure goyslop for amoeba brained morons, it's not an rpg.
Is New Vegas action adventure as well?
Yes.
Compare NV to deus ex, arx fatalis, brigand, etc. NV is zogchow.
there are several schools of jrpg though, standard jrpg, full action rpg, drpg which is a blobber, and tactics rpgs or srpg. jrpg used to be used mostly for the standard ones where you have a cast and a plot and turn-based battles. so in a way, even jrpg is a corrupted term at this point, which makes "wrpg" even more laughable.
>There is no such thing as a wrpg
True, its a term made by weebs.
>witcher 3 and cyberpunk they copied Bethesda
Witcher 1 was a rhythm game with sex, not an RPG.
The whole rebranding of open world action games as rpgs is hilarious to me. By just slapping an rpg tag on there suddenly incels thinks it's okay to play Sonic Frontiers and think "Sonic the Hedgehog is literally me right now." Ever elder scrolls/gothic/fallout/witcher homosexual is a total moron completely outside of the rest of the group trying to not only justify their existence but argue that they're the REAL rpgs.
Isn't that what you're doing. Listing off every great rpg and then being like "These are trash, I KNOW the real RPGs to play. The only REAL RPGS." Idk what RPG even means anymore. If designing a character to role play as, coming up with a backstory you stick to in making decisions, none of that is role play. Then what the frick is role play. Literally just games with strict stat development? Like, ok you're a wizard, put all stat points into mana. Is that a role playing game? Does RPG stand for retro 80's table top games?
For the purposes of this board, “rpg” means game that I like and think is good. “Not an rpg” means game that i dislike and think is bad.
Claiming that Japan isn't a Western country in values is moronic. They adopted them pretty hard in the Meiji era.
It all fricking depends on what you fricking describe as Western RPG or Western in general. IMO Western is anything non oriental, non exotic. Anything that is a derivative of European civilization: Eastern European people, polacks, are Europeans, so
>Anything that is a derivative of European civilization:
So, jRPGs?
There are no western RPGs. There are RPGs and JRPGs, and the latter are not RPGs in any way, shape or form, whether you call them eastern or just imply it.