Are the Enhanced Editions good or are they fricked? I could just tweak up the original versions but I'm curious.
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Are the Enhanced Editions good or are they fricked? I could just tweak up the original versions but I'm curious.
honestly the best way to play them in current era. all of the major mods have moved to the ee games. ee has some decent engine improvements and modding versatility. the shitty companions that beamdog added can be easily removed (although some of their quests have some good loot and neera is fricking broken).
iwd/planescape haven't been touched besides moving them to the updated engine. this fricks with the balance with iwd but if you ignore dual wielding and some of the stronger kits it's not too bad. iwd wasn't a hard game to begin with and breaking the game with meta builds is part of the charm.
remember to pirate them though because frick beamdog. also siege of dragonspear is just miserable, avoid at all costs.
They're pretty good. Just dont pay the siege of dragonfart.
Those menus are soul overload
Did someone say soul?
Where's that witch with giant booba?
For BG and P:T, yes, just go with the updated versions. Not sure on IWD, never really played tha beyond a few hours so can't advise.
Most of the mods are ported over and you can ignore the extra content added if you want.
The only valid reason not to play ee anymore is if you want the authentic BG1 experience instead of a port of BG1 into BG2EE, which is what BG1EE actually is.
Honestly, you'll probably love them and replay them multiple times, so you can play the old versions as a change of pace later.
they're good enough.
Beamdog is guilty of
What was the issue with Icewind Dale 2? Lost the code?
They're great ways to play the games
Correct.
Which is a shame because I played that more than any other RPG when I was a kid. It's still worth playing, though, and it's on GOG so just pirate it.
I still have fond memories of class-based reactivity in Icewind Dale 2. I also liked that you could be a cleric of evil gods and it actually showed in dialogue.
There's a fan made EE mod for IWD2 that was released last year
Hang on, has it actually been fully released or is it still in the beta phase?
I think they're still trying to get "voice actors" but who knows. I never heard anything since it was announced.
>new NPCs
It's shit.
>This mod also fixes the major issues many players had with the original Icewind Dale 2: you no longer have to solve tedious, cryptic puzzles
whew lad
>adds several unique recruitable NPCs
I thought you made your own party, or is that just the first game?
You make your own party in 2 also but they can't help themselves with their OC donut steeles. I imagine they'll limit the party size to force you to take one in the mod.
it's trash unless they backport it to ad&d. frick third edition
Icewind Dale and Planescape are good. For Baldur's Gate, you need the "de-enhanced" mod that removes the shit they added because it's honestly hot fricking garbage.
I mean, the originals are just fine so there's no real reason to play the "Enhanced Editions" unless you want to play with added content that isn't canon. I can't think of an actual reason to play the new versions.
What about Neverwinter Nights? Should I stick with the old 1.69 version or get EE?
Idk, I'd assume sticking with the original is best. These crpg "remasters" only ever change the game to support newer hardware (which fan patches will already do) and add non-canon content. I've heard that some of the stuff in Neverwinter Nights EE were also put behind dlc when they were in the orignal, but I can't confirm. All I know is that the originals are good and that the EE's are at best a side-grade and totally unnecessary.
Thanks, that's what I suspected.
I stick with the originals then, they still work flawlessly on my machine. No reason to pay for the same game twice.
And putting stuff behind a paywall that already came with the original is one of the scummiest things I've ever heard.
I suspect the originals do not support 1440p resolutions.
There are fan patches for it.
EE are fine except for the new non-canon content they added, which is easily removable with a mod that deletes those new NPCs.
They're good now, there have been tons of patches
The new content is cringe
the old games are really zoomed in for a reason
Play the originals. The EEs use the BG2 rule set which breaks BG1 and IWD horribly and completely trivialises the games (especially when you include the extra classes) and in the case of BG2 it adds crap.
Only the EE of Planescape was released unmolested.
Ugh... Icewind Dale the great Infinity Engine casual filter...
Infinity Engine games are kind of a huge pain to play on modern systems, so if the new remasters rid you of the necessity to go through all the hurdles, I'd say it's a good enough reason to choose them over the originals for most players.
>Infinity Engine games are kind of a huge pain to play on modern systems
No, they aren't.
I remember having to download some Chinese fan-made environment thingy to run Infinity Engine games in back in the day when I played PS:T, and it was already terribly outdated then. Maybe there are better tools for it now.
>the stuttering scrolling is a casual filter git gud
>can't zoom in? git gud
>can't see shit? get lasik
They really are simply because of the resolution and god-awful stuttering.
Those are the strangest and weakest nitpicks I've ever seen.
Get the resolution mod? It works for all the games, even BG1 which doesn't support anything more than 640x480 natively.
Planescape Torment Enhanced is great. Haven't played the rest.
It's great because the npcs are so tightly integrated into the plot that the hacks that made the remake couldn't squeeze in some homosexual romance option.
Lilura1 said that they ruined BG1 and IWD1
BG EEs are both fine, just remember to use this mod to disable the shitty non-canon NPCs they added
https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Convenient_Enhanced_Edition_NPCs
Even with fanfic removed, BG1 EE is an unbalanced mess. You've still got kits, new weapon proficiencies, the messed up world map, etc.
It's "ok" if you only care about story, but in that case why aren't you reading a book?
>do a fight
>it's really hard
>you have rested for 12 hours
>go forward a few steps
>do a fight
>it's really hard
>you have rested for 18 hours
is this normal?
Not unless you're running into gauntlets of difficult fights in a dungeon for which you might be too low level for.
Yes this is how a normal DnD crawl looks like. Vancian magic is complete shit for dungeon crawling. That's why in the new editions you have infinite usage spells and cantrips to make part of your party viable after two encounters.
The fights aren't supposed to exhaust you so much you are forced to rest after each one and wands exist for a reason if you need some extra damage in a pinch. Multi and dual classes are also a thing and work extremely well.
>Multi and dual classes are also a thing and work extremely well.
Might as well you cheats at that point. Multiclass is broken in any IE game and even mores so in ADnD.
dual classing is better than multi in almost every combination. also with dual classing you don't have to be filthy non-human scum
>'game system is bad because I use all of my casters' spells in a single encounter'
>multi and dual classes that can perform multiple roles exist
>'it's cheating'
You get much slower advancement in exchange for having access to two classes. It performs well within limitations. Is your brain rotten?
Yes it's cheating. If you played actual DnD you would know dual classing is the staple of a powergamer not roleplayer.
And that's why the video games are balanced with dual and multi classing in mind. They're not a tabletop session where you can change stuff on the fly or fiddle with the numbers and rolls to make things happen.
Is it true that they rewrote some dialogue in the EE's to be more politically correct?
nope, they couldn't legally touch any of the original writing. all they could do is add some poz characters.
There's one character in the shitty expansion they made for BG1 that literally does the I'm trans btw meme when you finish their questline, that's about it.
i was playing icewind dale EE, and using the viking bard, and I thought it was insanely OP. turns out it wasnt even in the original
I know planescape EE is fine and has no added content or altered writing or anything of the sort