Senior game design student about to graduate here. Just letting you know this game is generally considered to be a joke in the more elite gaming circles.
it's often guaranteed (You)s, the thread didn't seem like it would pick up and I wanted it to succeed, (You)s keep it bumped
if I get a cheap post like that in as the first post it can keep a thread going for a while whereas it might just go to page 10 otherwise
Fallout 2 is a shitfest if you don't have prior knowledge of stats and character builds. Rerolling is a slog and barely teaches you your wrongdoings. Fallout 1 is relatively easy, assuming you don't play anything outside the meta. A lot of stuff is trial and error and can sometimes even softlock your progress, but overall I guess they're okay games
>Fallout 2 is a shitfest if you don't have prior knowledge of stats and character builds
Literally just pick guns as a skill and walk around the new Reno area until you see yakuza fighting mobsters. Make a save. Play that save until a mobster dies with a tommy gun. Take Tommy gun. Melt everything with bursts. Until you find a big gun. Gg.
>uses prior knowledge
bro... The point being made there is that unless you know such things the games an utter shitshow when it comes to rolling a basic character.
The first game in comparison can be beaten with pretty much most builds with varying degrees of difficulty at various stages of the game of course.
>Any game made before 2010 is unplayable due to shit ui/inventory managemt/confusing quests
My experience with "modern" CRPGs is as follows: >play Divinity OS >immediately given 30 quests, literally 2 pages worth of scrolling through quests the second the game loads in >just randomly complete quest objectives by walking around >walk into market and there's a big pile of loot in the middle of the bazaar to grab and just trade it for everything that every vendor has >half of the characters are gay and have lisps >dialogue is rick and morty adult swim stoner humor >I have literally 1000 items in my inventory >every fight is exactly the same thing over and over >waypoints and markers everywhere, can teleport from anywhere on the map immediately at the start of the game >character building is crayon eater tier, just dump points in your main damage stat, dump talents in your weapon or your main damage tree, or if you're a caster literally just randomly dump them anywhere as you need them >passive stats required for interactions and/or crafting and identifying items are pointless because you get all of that on gear anyways >every single encounter has a chest with multicolored diablo loot at the end
I'm just trying to understand the appeal because they are so obviously bad to me. New Fallout isn't even comparable to old Fallout, it's more like STALKER's moronic down syndrome incest baby.
I enjoy them for comfy immersion. I like to create self narratives for character with overarching plotlines through the games. Avoid quests on one character and pretend both exist in the same world doing different shit. idk autism power
I have never seen an intelligent post with the word "comfy" in it.
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not trying to be intelligent, just the feeling I get. Managing gear, placing shit around in hideouts. I get that comfortable warm feeling I used to get base building in Tribes back in the day.
Fallout 1 is the best game in the series, perfect atmosphere and I actually love the combat system of the early games.
Fallout 2...
First it is WAY more buggy to the point you need fan patches just to make it playable.
Second its tone is way more pop-culture which aged like milk (Skynet is literally in game, thank you 1990s)
Thirdly you have huge and outright silly
sections like New Reno where 1950s gangsters are fighting Ninja star throwing Yakuza or something and it fits in about as well as it sounds.
Forth you have the insane balance issues, so many builds are gimped due to the starting setup of the game and some builds will not even make it out the tutorial area.
Fifth is the need for a guide due to the terrible job the game does leading you though this isnt the issue it used to be in the great internet age
Last of all I just hate how lazy the game feels with its design, like traders with 100caps of goods being guarded by 5 minigunners with 10000s worth in gear. The whole game just feels silly, jank and extremely "gamey"
>Fallout 2... >First it is WAY more buggy to the point you need fan patches just to make it playable
Works perfect on every windows 7 and 8 computer I’ve ever owned.
It’s a windows 10 thing, but go ahead and pretend it’s not an issue running a ancient game on 2020 operating systems.
Never needed a patch either… download, windows 2000 compatibility mode, and that’s literally always been it. Completed the story multiple times.
You know how I phones are exponentially more powerful than the computers on original spacecraft? Imagine if you tried to replace that computer that everything was designed to work on with an iPhone or Mac.
Will the fricking 60s technology understand how to work with IOS and its 2500 times more ram and processing power? Or will it crash and burn without substantial editing to everything?
This is why you can’t run fallout 1/2 easily on modern hardware. There’s a golden era, (win 7/8) where everything can run and all hardware did fine with old shit. The main reason I’ve never gotten windows 10 is because most of the games made before 2010 I enjoy flat out don’t work, and even with patches is far from the original experience
The only part I found horrible and horribly buggy was the San Francisco area. What a trash fricking area. You can tell the devs were rushing to scrape it by.
They are very worth it. Fallout 1 and 2 and like the easiest of all crpgs to start with if you never played a RPG in your life. Plus the art is good in a unique way the newer games didn't manage to capture
Absolutely, even if you haven't played other CRPGs because they are a great introduction to the genre.
The only things that kind of suck for modern standards are the inventory layout and how buggy it can be at times.
Finished Fallout 1, pretty good and creepy, that's a one rpg that truly nails the dread of post apocalyptical life.
just started 2, and now i am seeing anons talking about glitches and i am hesitant to continue, had no problems with Fallout 1 on Win10 with no patches.
Fallout 1 is a fantastic game that nails exactly what it is going for, easily best game of the series. Fallout 2 has about 4 times the content of Fallout 1 and suffers from "middle-loaded" content where the beginning and end are absolutely terrible and filled with cringe pop culture references
Fallout Fixt and Fallout 2 Killap's Restoration Patch it the way to go. Just finished both. Absolute kino games. Made me wrack my monkey brain a lot. Some shit is so sneaky and not straightforward at all. especially the restored cut content. Very great games. Only filtered brainlets dislike the 2 og fallouts
Fallout 1 tricks you into thinking you beat the game and then the second act feels like a sequel.
There's even a bit of foreshadowing just before you complete the first mission. I wish more games would do this.
I just started playing Fallout today actually. I've only had one real encounter, but the combat system is already growing on me >Clearing radscorpion cave >They have a poison melee attack, so want to kill them at range before they close the distance >Only have enough AP for one shot with some left over for movement >So the strategy is to kite the scorpion down the longest corridor I can find, backpedaling after every shot to delay melee as long as possible >Also trying to plant flares in the right spot beforehand to maximize accuracy bonus >When they get close, have to choose between safe body shots or a risky targeted shot to the brain, based on the amount damage so far
Its a respectable amount of depth for a fight with a pretty simple enemy. Can't wait fight something that van shoot back!
FO1s really good for its combat, where as 2 will throw huge mobs at you forcing you to just savescum any encounter you cant shitstomp. I ended up stopping after I just got board of reloading after 10+ raiders jumped me in the wastes.
Senior game design student about to graduate here. Just letting you know this game is generally considered to be a joke in the more elite gaming circles.
What do you get by spamming bait posts like this? Is it really worth the (you)s? Were just trying to talk about video games.
it's often guaranteed (You)s, the thread didn't seem like it would pick up and I wanted it to succeed, (You)s keep it bumped
if I get a cheap post like that in as the first post it can keep a thread going for a while whereas it might just go to page 10 otherwise
>elite gaming circles
the frick is that
Ganker is unironically the peak of vidya circles
Yes, very much so.
it's CAVALIER OBLIQUE not isometric
it's old and worthless like everyone who likes it
I liked 1 but I got bored in 2 pretty quickly
Fallout 2 is a shitfest if you don't have prior knowledge of stats and character builds. Rerolling is a slog and barely teaches you your wrongdoings. Fallout 1 is relatively easy, assuming you don't play anything outside the meta. A lot of stuff is trial and error and can sometimes even softlock your progress, but overall I guess they're okay games
>Fallout 2 is a shitfest if you don't have prior knowledge of stats and character builds
Literally just pick guns as a skill and walk around the new Reno area until you see yakuza fighting mobsters. Make a save. Play that save until a mobster dies with a tommy gun. Take Tommy gun. Melt everything with bursts. Until you find a big gun. Gg.
>uses prior knowledge
bro... The point being made there is that unless you know such things the games an utter shitshow when it comes to rolling a basic character.
The first game in comparison can be beaten with pretty much most builds with varying degrees of difficulty at various stages of the game of course.
Why wouldn't they be?
Fallout 1 and 2 are literally one of the best games ever made, they're worth it for their soundtracks alone
There are 3 good Fallout games and 2 of them are isometric, play them if you care about the setting.
But 1, 2, and tactics are all good.
Any game made before 2010 is unplayable due to shit ui/inventory managemt/confusing quests
>Any game made before 2010 is unplayable due to shit ui/inventory managemt/confusing quests
My experience with "modern" CRPGs is as follows:
>play Divinity OS
>immediately given 30 quests, literally 2 pages worth of scrolling through quests the second the game loads in
>just randomly complete quest objectives by walking around
>walk into market and there's a big pile of loot in the middle of the bazaar to grab and just trade it for everything that every vendor has
>half of the characters are gay and have lisps
>dialogue is rick and morty adult swim stoner humor
>I have literally 1000 items in my inventory
>every fight is exactly the same thing over and over
>waypoints and markers everywhere, can teleport from anywhere on the map immediately at the start of the game
>character building is crayon eater tier, just dump points in your main damage stat, dump talents in your weapon or your main damage tree, or if you're a caster literally just randomly dump them anywhere as you need them
>passive stats required for interactions and/or crafting and identifying items are pointless because you get all of that on gear anyways
>every single encounter has a chest with multicolored diablo loot at the end
Why do people like this shit?
>Why do people like this shit?
So they can hate Bethesda for a game they don't have to play
I'm just trying to understand the appeal because they are so obviously bad to me. New Fallout isn't even comparable to old Fallout, it's more like STALKER's moronic down syndrome incest baby.
I enjoy them for comfy immersion. I like to create self narratives for character with overarching plotlines through the games. Avoid quests on one character and pretend both exist in the same world doing different shit. idk autism power
I have never seen an intelligent post with the word "comfy" in it.
not trying to be intelligent, just the feeling I get. Managing gear, placing shit around in hideouts. I get that comfortable warm feeling I used to get base building in Tribes back in the day.
Fallout 1 is the best game in the series, perfect atmosphere and I actually love the combat system of the early games.
Fallout 2...
First it is WAY more buggy to the point you need fan patches just to make it playable.
Second its tone is way more pop-culture which aged like milk (Skynet is literally in game, thank you 1990s)
Thirdly you have huge and outright silly
sections like New Reno where 1950s gangsters are fighting Ninja star throwing Yakuza or something and it fits in about as well as it sounds.
Forth you have the insane balance issues, so many builds are gimped due to the starting setup of the game and some builds will not even make it out the tutorial area.
Fifth is the need for a guide due to the terrible job the game does leading you though this isnt the issue it used to be in the great internet age
Last of all I just hate how lazy the game feels with its design, like traders with 100caps of goods being guarded by 5 minigunners with 10000s worth in gear. The whole game just feels silly, jank and extremely "gamey"
>Fallout 2...
>First it is WAY more buggy to the point you need fan patches just to make it playable
Works perfect on every windows 7 and 8 computer I’ve ever owned.
It’s a windows 10 thing, but go ahead and pretend it’s not an issue running a ancient game on 2020 operating systems.
Never needed a patch either… download, windows 2000 compatibility mode, and that’s literally always been it. Completed the story multiple times.
You know how I phones are exponentially more powerful than the computers on original spacecraft? Imagine if you tried to replace that computer that everything was designed to work on with an iPhone or Mac.
Will the fricking 60s technology understand how to work with IOS and its 2500 times more ram and processing power? Or will it crash and burn without substantial editing to everything?
This is why you can’t run fallout 1/2 easily on modern hardware. There’s a golden era, (win 7/8) where everything can run and all hardware did fine with old shit. The main reason I’ve never gotten windows 10 is because most of the games made before 2010 I enjoy flat out don’t work, and even with patches is far from the original experience
The only part I found horrible and horribly buggy was the San Francisco area. What a trash fricking area. You can tell the devs were rushing to scrape it by.
For me fallout 1 > fallout 3 > fallout NV = fallout 2 >>>>> fallout 4. Never played 76 because I don't play shit with cashshops.
WTF
They are very worth it. Fallout 1 and 2 and like the easiest of all crpgs to start with if you never played a RPG in your life. Plus the art is good in a unique way the newer games didn't manage to capture
>WMam
>Plus the art is good in a unique way
nothing about it was unique
old fallout has such great ambience and mogs the 3d games
Mark Morgan is a genius
literally aphex twin slowed down with ambience added
that being said, FO 1/2 ost are godly as frick and pure atmosphere
If you get filtered by Fallouts 1 and 2 try Wasteland
Absolutely, even if you haven't played other CRPGs because they are a great introduction to the genre.
The only things that kind of suck for modern standards are the inventory layout and how buggy it can be at times.
i've actually finished fallout 2 and boy, was it hard
everything is so small i think you'd need a monitor that's at least 50 inches to see anything properly
Finished Fallout 1, pretty good and creepy, that's a one rpg that truly nails the dread of post apocalyptical life.
just started 2, and now i am seeing anons talking about glitches and i am hesitant to continue, had no problems with Fallout 1 on Win10 with no patches.
They are the best fallout games by far, yes.
>still
nothings changed about it. what the frick does that mean?
Achuuuaally it is trimetric. Isometric would mean all basis axis have equal length which they clearly do not.
>no 3d fallout with this aesthetic
why even live...
oh yeah i forgot about that
shame its only a couple tiny maps
and gamebryo
Gamebryo is fine, the only problem is that we no longer have access to it because Koreans bought it
Fallout 1 is a fantastic game that nails exactly what it is going for, easily best game of the series. Fallout 2 has about 4 times the content of Fallout 1 and suffers from "middle-loaded" content where the beginning and end are absolutely terrible and filled with cringe pop culture references
I tried but it's impossible to read any dialog box without having the game on 800x600 resolution, and then the rest of the game looks too zoomed in
this unironically feels more like a fallout game than anything past 2
Yes.
Also learn Russian so you can play all the amazing Russian fan games based on Fallout 2
Yes. They are way better than the shitty Elder Scrolls reskins Bethesda made.
Fallout Fixt and Fallout 2 Killap's Restoration Patch it the way to go. Just finished both. Absolute kino games. Made me wrack my monkey brain a lot. Some shit is so sneaky and not straightforward at all. especially the restored cut content. Very great games. Only filtered brainlets dislike the 2 og fallouts
This. Also, the french unofficial translation for the RP deleted the pop culture references. I didn't know aabout them until I read about it here.
Fallout 1 tricks you into thinking you beat the game and then the second act feels like a sequel.
There's even a bit of foreshadowing just before you complete the first mission. I wish more games would do this.
I love it when kino games filter Ganker
I just started playing Fallout today actually. I've only had one real encounter, but the combat system is already growing on me
>Clearing radscorpion cave
>They have a poison melee attack, so want to kill them at range before they close the distance
>Only have enough AP for one shot with some left over for movement
>So the strategy is to kite the scorpion down the longest corridor I can find, backpedaling after every shot to delay melee as long as possible
>Also trying to plant flares in the right spot beforehand to maximize accuracy bonus
>When they get close, have to choose between safe body shots or a risky targeted shot to the brain, based on the amount damage so far
Its a respectable amount of depth for a fight with a pretty simple enemy. Can't wait fight something that van shoot back!
FO1s really good for its combat, where as 2 will throw huge mobs at you forcing you to just savescum any encounter you cant shitstomp. I ended up stopping after I just got board of reloading after 10+ raiders jumped me in the wastes.