battle brothers

They're much easier to grind against when starting a new game, although that's balanced out by the limited gear you can get off of them.

My warhammer knowledge is pretty limited but aren't warriors aligned with chaos demons? They're basically vikings+warlock whereas BB northeners don't have any sort of magical affinity.

Designs like that existed before WHFB and are reasonably generic.
Given the context you're probably not actually wrong, but there's nothing wrong with doing it.

Who'd have guessed the devs aren't autistically researching player strategies to make the other mercs act like players.

>average player lineup

Slingchads... RISE UP

Is round swing ever worth it outside of a "im fricked might as well go for it and hope for 3 decaptations" scenario?also how do you guys position your two handers ? Should i put them at the edges of the formation so he can have more space to round swing or at the centre were they wont get surrounded?

>2 hander positioning
depends on how the rest of your frontline will deploy. for a dangerous fight we can prefer to keep them in 2nd row, opening gaps along your frontline that enemies can try to "exploit," only to line themselves up for line cleaves from your 2 handers.
for a less dangerous/defensive fight, deploy on the edges and go berserk down their line.
>round swing
generally impractical as in real life, it takes a purpose-built bro to make round swing really worth it compared to using a more reasonable AOE weapon, like bardiche.

Any advice for a first time playthrough?

A.B.T.
Always Buy Tools
If tools are under 300 and you have less than 120 in the truck, frickin buy more. Always try to repair tier 2 or higher weapons before selling them, the gold:tool ratio is an essential part of your economy

It's "20% of (RES-10)", not "(20% of RES) -10".
With 50 RES, the penalty would be 8. Though keep in mind that it's the RES *at the battle* that matters, so bannerman bonus does apply.
For reference, these are the values of RES that some enemies have and what percentage of their RES they would be losing with a -8 penalty.
>Nomads:
cutthroat 45 RES, 17.7% lower RES.
outlaw 60 RES, 13% lower RES.
executioner 90 RES, 8.9% lower RES.
>Barbarians:
reaver 80 RES, 10% lower RES.
chosen 90 RES, 8.9% lower RES.
>Orcs:
young 65 RES, 12.3% lower RES.
berserker 90 RES, 8.9% lower RES.
warrior 75 RES, 10.6% lower RES.
warlord 90 RES, 8.9% lower RES.
[it's also going to be effective against regular bandits and noble troops but why you would be fighting those by the time you can get fearsome?]
Against undead and high level beasts fearsome doesn't do anything, and against goblin while it technically works, you are unlikely to take more than 2 hits to kill a single goblin so in practice fearsome also doesn't do anything. The aforementioned three factions are really the only ones that are affected by fearsome to any relevant degree. As you can see, against most enemies of those three factions, with 50 RES on your bros, fearsome will lower the enemy resolve by about 10%. The mod that displays when fearsome made an enemy fail a RES check (which they would have succeeded at if it wasn't for the penalty) pretty much unvariable showed that it's pretty rare for the perk to work, and that was before the nerf.
>I see people posting about how undervalued it is as a perk
I honestly disagree and posted about that in the previous thread. Even in the battles in which fearsome works at all, which are only against three factions in total, it's really hard to gauge exactly how effective fearsome really is. The people who claim it's one of the best perks in the game are going almost exclusively by gut feeling with no actual testing done.

don't listen to the knuckleheads who still don't understand how difficulty scales and expect starting players to use speedrunning techniques. Keep doing contracts until you feel like you have a solid team. Once even three skulls contracts seem easy, venture into the foggy areas of the map.

Get twelve brothers as soon as possible, don't waste the money on costly backgrounds before having full team and money to spare.

The chance to get armor is based on its remaining durability, raiders adds a flat chance to loot stuff so even broken armor can be looted. You need to dagger or headshot or kill through pen and get lucky to get armor drops.

Pro tip is quickhands on literally every single bro, which conveniently helps you dagger down more guys, but it's busted for the ability to swap to a polearm/1hander for action economy

Time to recruit goblin duelist

/vst/ in general is one of the slowest boards. Battle Brothers threads get much more responses than most others.

Mod only?

Without the "?". I know Legends have it, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was standalone necromancer mod

>on Ganker for 15 years now
>last time i discovered new boards was when they split /vg/ off of Ganker
>today is the first time I notice /vst/
>holy shit its like Ganker but without the constant /misc/posting, troony related schizo posting and dumb anime shit

And on top of that, I started playing Battle Brothers a week ago.
Yesterday I managed to see the end of an end game crisis for the first time, mine was war between nobles.

Does it make any sense to keep playing after that or should I start over?

ALSO, very important question:
When looking for useful companions, do you take ANY oathttaker/knight/assassin etc you find or just the ones with like +3 stars in melee atk and hp?

because I've read that at least for 2h frontliners, those are the go-to classees. for most of my savegame I relied on indebted/slaves (0 wages) and they're about to reach lvl 11 soon and they weren't so bad after all. the ones that arent dead at least.

TL;DR do you cherry pick your new brothers or do you get anyone as long as they have the right background?

Well said, battle bros.

Imagine being such a homosexual that you name your bros shit like "2h Mace" or "Hybrid Duelist".
I always keep my bros initial name. Those that start with a nickname, I keep it as it is. Those that don't have one, once they manage to reach veteran level I give them a nickname based on their looks, their equipment, their traits or the toughest enemy they have killed. Also at level 11 the whole team takes a trip to the nearest barbershop, I never change face/body or hair colour, I only change hairstyle and beard.

>I always keep my bros initial name. Those that start with a nickname, I keep it as it is. Those that don't have one, once they manage to reach veteran level I give them a nickname based on their looks, their equipment, their traits or the toughest enemy they have killed. Also at level 11 the whole team takes a trip to the nearest barbershop, I never change face/body or hair colour, I only change hairstyle and beard.
Soulful, anon.

No, it isn't. Do low-level brigand and undead missions and use terrain to your advantage, maybe get a dog. Why do you need ranged in the first place? You should focus on melee with your small roster and only get one ranged guy to eliminate the necrosavants later on.

>Wouldn't a high mdef+hp do on its own?
They would. Dodge is pretty crap perk, I think it's only really worth it on qatal dagger assassins and maybe duelists, but I never make duelists.

>Feels like warlords are just better than my sarge in every way.
Yes.
The solution is just disarming them with whip and attacking them, while at the same time your other brothers should kill as many young orcs and berserkers as possible to break the morale of the orc warriors.

Actually yes, Tolkien was inspired by a mixture of Asian and Germans when writing his Orcs
The physical description of an Orc sergeant in Moria is almost a 1 to 1 copy of the "yellow devil"

eh, it's not that they didn't steal shit, it's just that they stole from the same sources as warhammer.

Nobody even said that stealing shit is bad and these morons still jumped over themselves to defend the game from a non-issue
Fantasy that doesn't steal from history, myth, or previously written works is always so esoteric and stuck up its own ass that it's shit

No it isn't.
The armour fills gaps in terms of ranges of durability and fatigue that aren't covered by the regular armours. Southern armour is usually better than northerner armour, with the exception of northern gambeson and noble mail armour which are great.
The weapons are completely new. A lot of love was given to 2h cleavers and to maces. Also sword lances made polearms good and guns allow for ranged AoE damage.
Nomads are like raiders++, with great melee defense so they dodge or block attacks a lot, many ranged options and their dreaded special units like the blade dancer which is harder to kill than almost any other enemy unit.
Potions and the Arena are also good additions to the game.

The only thing that feels like a reskin is direwolves -> hyenas, and I'm fine with it.

If your defense is 50 then most attacks against you are missing already.

you would lose because the AI has stat advantages generally speaking

>probably it will end up being something like Japanese oni, no artwork yet
Boo, get better material. They should've been Mongol-inspired centaur monsters.
Oni just sounds like differently-colored greenskins.

>oathtaker rework, cultist rework
tell me more
>the option to play in a larger map with 5 noble houses and 4 southern city states
might be good, might be unremarkable

There are already skaven in the game, you just don't notice it when you being paid by them.
There are already beasts and men, why do you need beastmen? How differnet would it be from fighting orcs and unholds?

You know what I want? Beast lairs filled with treasures, but without any equippable items to loot.

Keep going so you can learn more about the game, they call it endgame crisis but it's more you finally finished the tutorial part of the game when the first one rolled over.

Welcome.
>Does it make any sense to keep playing after that or should I start over?
BB is a sandbox game, there's is no predetermined end, you can keep playing as long as you want or start a new campaign whenever you want. If what you are asking is if there's more content, then the answer is yes, a lot more.
Not going to spoil you, but out there far away from the cities there are many special events and locations, and completing them is generally seen as the final goal of a campaign since they are very hard.
>do you cherry pick your new brothers or do you get anyone as long as they have the right background?
I don't want to bother you with all the technical data.
Both backgrounds and talents (stars) essentially come down to your attributes. Better backgrounds have, on average, better starting attributes. Talents mean that your attribute rolls when you level up are better, so on the long run you will have higher attributes by the time your bro is level 11. Both of them are important. Do not concern yourself too much with them during the early game but, in the late game when you have money to spare getting brothers with great backgrounds and talents in the most important attributes can really increase the power of your band.

Militia/thieves converted into cultists. Common recruits, unpenalized hp/fat basically, well above average matk or mdef respectively, lowborn so converts to cultist to basically remove wages + remove events + can scale resolve. By far the best affordable background you can get, and as a result you can get well rolled/starred recruits that are better than just average hedgies for cheaper. Endgame you'd want perfect adventurous nobles/hedge knights/hunters, but they're expensive both to roll and to pay wages, and can't remove their wages with cultist unless you scum for brain damage.

yeah berserker chain can be extremely nasty after the flail mastery buff, 60% armor ignore is no joke, zerkers also have innate +20% damage (+30% after day 190) so they hit much harder than their stats would suggest too. your lone wolf guy was actually lucky to have survived that hit, zerkers were about the only reason to take steel brow and it is a damn good one. anyway hopefully you have learned your lesson never to let two-hander berserkers take a hit at your men from now on.

Just don't get hit

Non famed heavy armour sucks, way too much cost to fatigue.

see

Skill issue

>any alternatives
Yeah, the paymaster retinue, no mods required.

Can't outfit shit if you get wiped in the process.

Don't take the great battle contracts, just take the privateering ones. Only having to do two out of three options means you can choose battles that aren't going to roll you.
Noble armies are easy, if you can't manage them by day 100, you're doing something wrong.

Its not actually a problem since most elevation in the game isnt as steep as a
3 2 1 unless you're straight up in a mountain where its a big jumble of heights
Usually its something like
333 2 1
Just put your frontliner on the outward 3 and the guy behind can strike the enemy that gets to 2

Just don't use them

I do something in between where the roles are titles, like a swordlance bro is a Reaper etc

Legends is made by a Korean troon, just you wait until they put anime girls with giant swords into it (if they haven't done so already) like Koreans did with Darkest Dungeon.

Yeah, give me an excel table with everything about my brothers, from town of the origin to the complete list of kills with dates.

I wanted to get around to doing a better obituary mod but I never did

Who would bother making a porn mod of this game? It would take an extreme thirst to find those models erotic in any way whatsoever.

Whats the smallest squad size i can use and still be good i dont want to micro like 20 people

Depends on how good you are. I've seen pictures of people doing a straight lone wolf run with only their hedge knight.
>20 People
you can only field 12 at a time except for the peasant militia origin which I think is 16.

There's an origin kind of like that, where you play as undead legions, requiring no food or gold. It's boring as shit though, there's no real point without contracts or trading.

>Has a port.
I've seen much worse locations, like a town in the middle of a tiny island, with no port, to which you could only arrive by wading through those shallow water shorelines through days.

All nachos are susceptible to breaking Morale so if you can get enough of the lil ones killed close to them in very quick succession (and ensure that no one gets to their bodies to feed on by slowly advancing) you can make them break like all the rest.

Giga bowl of salsa

unironically just ignore them and kill their friends so they get depressed and run away also they have no armor so someone with crippling strikes and gash can put them in a weelchair.

Most people savescum to be honest. But you should play Ironman anyway to avoid building bad habits. There's youtubers who can consistently win crisis and endgame content without wiping, but they're all the same kind of homos who name their characters "2H Duelist" or whatever. But it is possible.

just fought orcs for the first time and I got straight up jump scared. Peppered one of them with arrows and just as I thought it was looking good he jump my best geared, highest leveled dude and decapitated him in one hit and then made a fricked up gurgle laugh. I never make noises when I play games alone but I actually gasped. Can you recruit them? I need to hear those battle cries every fight.

Legends lets you recruit one, I think.

Learn how to fight
Repair higher tier weapons before sale

No but you can use their weapons and theres special mushrooms a brother can eat to make him lose defences and gain damage
Also makes him scream similarly whenever he makes an attack

I reckon lone wolf is the easiest start. Easy to early grind, in risky fights just don’t deploy him

Is this an old screenshot or are you playing an ancient version for some reason

Remember to pack enough food.

Are you aware of the fact that these Hunters are never going to convert to the Cultist background?

try ranged attack and initiative :^)

Lone wolf has no initiative star and hege knight is background with shit ini
You could force it if you really wanted to but i dont recommend it. Yes strong and quick would be necessary

not lone wolf, you would need a well rolled oathbro. also dodgeforge is a build you never force you build it if your bro has stupid high iniative, but is an excellent bro and you don't wanna waste his iniative.

It's best if you never build it. Since you somehow assumed Lone wolf can be one

Why oath only
What about assassin or even thief

Lol, lmao.
All of those are usable though, throwerbro, tankbro, gunnerbro, and hybridbro.
Worst case scenario, can just sell them for a better famed weapon.

I miscalculated, this time its correct for sure
The chance is 13.64% of ever getting BD against a 86.36% chance to die trying

Today anon learned that swords are not the best weapon in the game

After they make another dlc and more content upgrades i hope

It's constantly factored

no armor + no shields (they attack directly through them anyways). personally i just blobbed my guys because iirc when they teleport they'll only do so near your dudes so it makes it easier to get to them and less chance of your guys getting obliterated while alone.

Alps are easy money once you get the hang of it
Dont go naked, sometimes theres 2 or 3 direwolves. Do double grip on everyone though
Rally from bannerman wakes up in an aoe around him so be sure to toot whenever theres multiple sleeping bros nearby
Theyre somewhat resistant to pierce so bring slashing and blunt weapons. A lot of reach options can oneshot them on a head hit
Stunned or netted alps will not tp on hit
Like

no armor + no shields (they attack directly through them anyways). personally i just blobbed my guys because iirc when they teleport they'll only do so near your dudes so it makes it easier to get to them and less chance of your guys getting obliterated while alone.

said their teleport isnt fully random and they perfer to bunch up around exposed people. Theyll also only appear on the edges so if 1 man is near death he can somewhat be kept safe if you shuffle him to the center
Full roster of 12 brothers also makes this much easier. If i find a nightmare contract when i have less than that i usually buy whoever is for hire in that village even if he'll be fired right after
>dogs
Yes as soon as you are able, they have many applications
Northern ones are sturdier than the norm and bite harder but move and act a tad slower

i never built a fencer but you want relentless on them always because otherwise you start to leak damage on lunge after a few kills
rated 77 out of 77

>grunt so loudly that it makes you considerably more tired
>attack that'd almost kill you now just scratches your armor

>most perks are useless
Tryout mod user moment

Yes, you can get good.
There's no "snowballing", contract difficulty scales with the combined level of your party, if you party is increasing in level and bandits are becoming harder instead of easier you messed up.

Ummm actually sweaty these ratmen are not inspired by Warhammer Fantasy at all, Games Workshop didn't invent rats mmmkay??

forgot to say i have like 1500 crowns right now.

I mean, what

It's sorta fine? Day 20 is kind of early and you can still accelerate pretty fast. It doesn't look like you've scavenged any bandit mail yet which is a little concerning

said, but I feel like now's about time to start trying to knock over harder bandits so you not only get their armor, but weapons so you can stop using militia spears in favor of basically anything else that's a tier 2 weapon.

Its fine
Id try to get more backliners with reach weapons
Why are you playing on expert if you're a newish player though

How the frick are you morons still having issues with alps?

You can get ijirok armour pretty easily so there's always a reason to have a bf.

nimble on frontliners is always cringe

Nimble is a huge powerspike in the mid game. Unless you have very heavy armour nimble is simply better and if you have very heavy armour it's going to tax your fat a lot.

Its new players who build an irrational fear due to a wipe, anon, have some sympathy
People will say silly things regarding bb in general like you need to build a certain type of company to fight frickin witches or you AFP is the only "meta" bf attachment

>AFP is the only "meta" bf attachment
That one is correct though. No anon I'm not going to farm kraken plate for every bf bro.

Definetly yeah if you build for it
Theres footage of soloing monolith. If 1 anatomist monster can do that then he can clear just about anything

gog-games
you might need to get GOG base game too, but it's there

Its a very fun, effective and solid tactic.

>conan
>noble savage
???

He kinda was. Especially in the original books.

Hit people with reach weapons from the safety of your own back line

>Wow (...) Legends is such an antifun (...) mod
Correct.

You can easily mod some of these things yourself or suggest them on the legends trooncord server

2nd best dlc

It is just a terrible dlc. Adds sandBlack folk to a game that only had white characters. Stone beast is very anti-fun. Hyenas are just reskinned wolves. There is no realiable fully consistent strategy to beat Serpents. Arena and retinue are cool. Overall, terrible.

lots of good contenders but id say bardiche

Greatsword.

Alright, I've finished being mad, going for another run

Scaling Beggar is a total meme run of course it's shit

The DLC is amazing and the game doesn't feel complete without it.
>I keep losing to undead
The DLC does introduce fights way harder than what you get in vanilla, keep in mind.

Just bring dedicated shieldbrothers to tank the schrats and focus on killing one at a time. Don't think i've ever lost a brother to a schrat

I just bring axes and let my tanks have fun with them while the other bros chop wood.
Lindwurms on the other hand can go frick themselves.

>decide to start a new company with the caravan background
>towns are barely selling shit
Guess I'll just do contracts then

Slings should also have higher headhit chance so you can have some more fun with HH
Reduce throwing mastery damage bonus to 25% and make it applicable to all distances

People are playing so yes
When we go to page 10 ill make it
Vst is slow board so no need to rush