I cannot decide between Crimea mod, the grand campaign, and ending expansion mod
Crimea mod has the best AI and balance i.e no medical reform spam) BUT the grand campaign has the most historical content, pops, map, and even has new buildings. Don't like the new pops added this.
Ending extension mod is closest to HPM but has no bloat and overall plays like HPM up to 1956. I wish it had the ai improvements of Crimea mod.
So I can't decide which one if the definitive game. Each mod does something right and 5 things wrong. What are some things you want to see in a Victoria 2 mod? I know how to mod and I've been thinking of combining all the good mods together...
New era mod is also cool. Scratches my interest itch.
Gosh, Vicky 3 is so garbage by the way. I was SO looking forward to that. Guess not.
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>interest itch.
Interwar itch.
Crimeamod is by far the best victoria 2 mod
Besides the AI fixes, why?
Crimea mod mostly removes pops, not adds. Grand campaign mod has at least 3 times the pop types. I don't have a potato PC so the performance improvements of Crimea mod from removing pops does frick all to help me.
>Besides the AI fixes, why?
Optimization, new events, better balance
I just told you optimization doesn't do shit for me because I don't have a potato PC. There are not that many new events. GCM has at least twice as much. The only better balance I see is the nerf of medical reforms.
It's not really that good.
I just can't read, remove the Grand Campaign pops then.
No I want the pops, the thing about TGC that sucks is that the AI is not really a challenge while in Crimea it is.
Crimea mod is a simple mod, but the AI is better. TGC is more complex, but with worse ai.
Only thing to do is make my own mod tbh.
>Don't like the new pops added this.
Quite confusing. I've not played grand campaign n aong time, I'm assuming it doesn't use the same base map as Crimea mod, so you can't just copy the pops into Crimea mod?
Sorry, it's not the grand campaign, but the grand combination which is built of the grand campaign.
Personally, I am not a fan of the new GFX (which can be reverted back to vanilla or HPM) however the map itself is the MOST accurate and historical vicky 2 map that I can find. you can play as any micronation even,
the ai, however is not a challenge like vanilla which is the only edge crimea mod has. and is also lackin the PDM facotires and good.
Well, I apologize for my confusion, I've not been paying too much attention to all the alternatives out there.
I always used Crimeamod for the base of any homebrew I made though, like you say, the AI is the best. Vicky 2 is pretty easy to mod, just steal what you want
I would really, really like to try playing the mod in your screenshot. Please permit me to do so
TGC adds a lot of details that are cool to look at when you're scrolling around the 1836 map but is so insanely incompatible with the actual mechanics of the game that it's an exercise in insanity.
A proliferation of tiny substates and puppets at game start just does not work.
>that map
Might as well just port over EvW's map into Vic2 if you want the provinces to be so miniscule. After seeing how many players on here focus on replacing pops with the dominant culture of whatever country they're playing, I can never see the point of all these tiny cultures being represented instead of them getting the Minor African or Minor Caucasian treatment.
>What are some things you want to see in a Victoria 2 mod?
People cringe whenever I say this, but I want a mod with as few unique events as possible. During my last Prussian campaign in vanilla, I really noticed how many unique events Prussia gets that are either prestige spam or give them free reforms. I understand that it's done to help the game achieve more or less historical outcomes, but it just feels too railroady to me, and when mods double down on this railroadness with even more event spam (like CWE) it just makes me not want to play them because then I feel like I can't plan out strategies if my country gets railroaded in a specific direction anyway. Maybe I should just frick off back to EU3 if I want less history and more silly shit.
The issue is that without events, Victoria 2’s shitty simulation is made a bit too obvious, every play through would be a clown world. Look at Vicky 3 which currently has almost no historical events, the endgames are comical
>without events, Victoria 2’s shitty simulation is made a bit too obvious, every play through would be a clown world
Every playthrough is already a clown world for me whenever I don't play as a major country, and that's with no mods. Let alone the US blobbing into Yukon through the hole in Canada, my playthroughs range from Germany curbstomping everyone (which is already non-historical, though that's easy to forget after a decade of seeing VGHposting in vicky threads) to the UK colonizing random bits in Europe and one of the minors taking Amazonas from Brazil and jumpscaring the player whenever they look at what's going on in South America. And I like it that way!
>Look at Vicky 3 which currently has almost no historical events, the endgames are comical
I haven't bothered playing Vic3 myself, but I've seen a few timelapses on YouTube and what I noticed isn't so much the world turning into clown world but the world just sorta being in stasis the whole time. The US never has a "proper" civil war, Africa doesn't get scrambled, and I've seen a few when the game first came out (they probably patched this later on) in which Germany and Italy never form. I'm not saying for the game to not have any historical events whatsoever and let the computer do whatever it wants (which seems to be to do nothing in Vic3's case), what I'm saying is that some events need to be in place to shepherd the game into a more or less plausible world (like unification events), but to the point where the player can still have their own strategies instead of the game turning into a TNO-style visual novel.
Speaking of TNO, wasn't Vic3 supposed to have something similar to focus trees? Or am I schizo?
Germany curbstomping everyone was historical up until ww1
there are countless examples of the contrary including the Napoleonic Wars and pic realted
i worked on this
the schizophrenic german basedjak who makes GFM ruined it
He's not German, he's an Ashkenazim.
big complex mods always end up hurting the economy, and adding microstates and dozens of events that give you +1 prestige is not "complexity"
>Crimea mod is a simple mod, but the AI is better. TGC is more complex, but with worse ai.
It's fascinating you don't see the connection between these two things.
>Besides the AI fixes, why?
Soldier pops only spawning in state capitals means less micro overall, better flavor events without bloat, solid overall game balance, and good economy balance.
>better flavor events without bloat,
No. Flavour is straight taken from PDM, which is more bloated than HPM. I stopped playing when, as Austria, after the scripted Hungarian revolt in 1848 (which at least makes things interesting for Austrian neighbours, being an opportunity to weaken it) I also had San Marco republic revolt for no good reason.
>I also had San Marco republic revolt for no good reason.
Is history not good enough a reason for you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Italian_War_of_Independence
Oh, my bad. I wasn't aware that PDM had extra crimean war flavor, USA annexaton and renaming of Mexico, French renaming of Rhineland, Franche-Comte/Sudetenland/Wallonia partitions, GCF unique formable for Austria, etc.
What about the PDM Scandinavia flavour and the PDM ability to deport blacks back to africa? Or PDM Mukden incident.
Just remove the new pops in Crimea mod
seethe
gfm>
isn't crimeamod the one where the guy removed a bunch of cultures he was personally butthurt over existing
Yes.
At some point he decided to start making changes out of spite, rather than out of gameplay consideration. He might write cope posts about how having more than one culture in the entirety of Africa caused lag, but all that is, is cope.
If I recall correctly, he also merged Ukrainian into Russian(LMFAO) and merged everything nonwhite in the Americas into African-American
t. fluvial bantu
I am suprised that noone is talking about his decidedly more moronic merging of small Han subcultures into Asian minor, and not Nanfaren/Beifaren.
It's like if he mergen Ukrainian into "European minor" and not Russian.
But yeah, rest of the mod is solid, I use my own submod which removes the more moronic changes.
>I use my own submod
Name?
It's private, can share if you want.
Please do
https://pastebin.com/Y7wTAqHA
Here. It's the first version, so just the lowest hanging fruit. Might fix the chinese cultures next.
What are the main changes?
It crashes as soon as it gets past the intro video
I can't add any war goals mid war except for war reps in this
>It's like if he mergen Ukrainian into "European minor" and not Russian.
Slav is European minor.
>merging of small Han subcultures into Asian minor, and not Nanfaren/Beifaren.
That makes some sense since those small cultures are supposed to be unaccepted by china. Keeping them separate from the two big han cultures preserves that.
Nanfaren already isn't accepted by Qing.
but it is by heavenly kingdom, that's the gameplay reason for the split
you are totally not posting this because you're the one who is actually butthurt over some cultures being removed from your video game
Because you're a loathsome Putinoid who thinks Ukrainians don't exist.
Only commies think ukrainians exist before the bolshevik revolution.
Get fricked commie trash.
the relationship between ukrainians and russians before the USSR was more of the relationship between anglos and lowland scots - basically the same people but their accent is funny
then again differences like these provided the basis for a large part of the new European nations of the 19th, and 20th centuries, so go figure
so glad i wasnt born into an unintelligent and poor class and genuinely believe this shit
Instead you were born into the middle class and fall for moronic media-driven hoaxes like
>Ukraine is somehow special because a bunch of Russian peasants had some minor Polish influence on their language and that means we must dump our entire weapons stockpile on the most corrupt country in Europe next to Russia because the borders of the Ukraine that were carved out based on an administrative area of a collapsing state are sacred, somehow
literally do not care for a second for what someone who is genetically and culturally inferior to me has to say
And yet you cared enough to type up a catty, b***hy response instead of ignoring like you should've
>catty, b***hy
always funny when you make some low value male think about the countless times hes been emasculated by women
to be entirely fair belarusian exists and its considered distinct from russian
except almost all white russians speak it as a second language, just like ukrainians until they started ukrainian schooling in the 1990's
Yeah just like how all Piedmontese, Lombardians, Venetians, Sicilians, Sardinians, Tuscans, Romagnans, Calabrians, and others speak Italian as their first language and their native languages second
Belarusian is (historically at least) the first language of most Belarusian people until it was stomped out by the USSR and the Russian-language dominance
It's about killing communists, the White man's greatest pleasure in life, you wouldn't understand.
But no one is invading Cuba nor Venezuela. Maybe if it's such a pleasure you should get to it?
>braindead amerimutt cope
you will never be white, Pablo
>anon discovers what US backed capitalism does to a country that had US backed communist revolution happen
lmao at the butthurt, who cares what Russia (not a threat to Whites unlike USA) is if they are doing more for Whites than homosexuals like you, then you're clearly the problem that should be eradicated
Russians are fake Europeans and the equivalent of an abused dog that's acting out and has to be put down. Also in a couple of months every male member of your family will be conscripted and then sent to die in a meat grinder, and then the same will happen to you. Lol
Based moron assuming everyone who posts shit he doesn't like is Russian
I'll give you a hint, my government is serious about the war but probably not that serious.
No, dumbass, that isn't a mark of pride. Your posts are childish, catty and very embarrassing
Aka you're shitskin.
I'm not Russian, I'm a Finn from Viipuri.
>Aka you're shitskin
which is why you piss your pants over them lol
>look how angry you are because i say so lol
That's weak. Powerfully weak.
are you the hilariously dumb british aspergers guy who responded with "im not telling you my age" when someone asked if you were 11
Literally who you sperg, are you looking up archived threads for some insult to use lol
ahahaha knew it was you. you just somehow give off the impression of being fatal levels autistic from just the tone of your posts
>i dont know who that is
>HAHA I KNEW IT WAS YOU I KNEW IT ALL ALONG
you okay, bro? are you having a stroke?
you should probably call 911 instead of continuing to type
flustered?
problem?
>t. everyone who posts shit i dont like is american
or canadian
probably canadian considering that time flags were enabled for april fools'
if ur such a moron that you dont even bother to understand the history behind ur map game then you're honestly not much better than the click to win game enjoyers because you're playing blind
perhaps historical strategy is a bit too advanced for you
yeah I should definitely delve into more simplistic pop history and shit sourced from facebook groups for braindead ESL nationalists, lmao
lol this isnt pop history
try reading a wiki page that's honestly better than yapping on a gabonese salt-harvesting forum
this guy is obsessed with insulting people for liking history when he isn't rambling about ESLs, ignore him please
he's astonishingly historically illiterate as a result of american education only teaching him about ww2 considering how he rambles about history only being about tanks and battles
quite sad really
That's just Robbie. Migrant braindead moron from /gsg/ who is obsessed with Poles and Vic2. He enters rage mode every single time somebody is enjoying Vic2 in any way.
Favourite posts of his are calling everyone and anyone ESL and posting angry Polandball memes.
He's also black.
Why did the Russian Imperial census list Ukrainian as an ethnicity if it didn't exist?
Why did the Russian Empire and Brezhnev era USSR have to ban Ukrainian if it didn't exist?
the British census listed Scots and welshmen but they aren't in Vicky
it's because these ethnicities had no conflicts within their larger group during the time period, and splitting them merely reduces performance and messes up mechanics like colonising
>it's because these ethnicities had no conflicts within their larger group during the time period
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_War_of_Independence
?
that's a rebellion that was made up during the two colour revolutions in ukraine over the past 15 years to justify it's unique ethnicity. just like retconning gogol to be some super epic ukrainian patriotic author
you know, it's funny how americans tried to do a colour revolution in china in 1989, failed, and are still seething over it
imagine making shit up to defend some shitty little HIV infested state of people universally suffering from antisocial personality disorder
which is funny because that's exactly what you're doing. you just described ukraine to a t, which is yet another reason not to blindly accept the mass brainwashing to consider them something completely different from the rest of russia. they were considered as russian as the rest of russia in tsarist times, so why the sudden change of heart after the colour revolution?
who are you quoting?
>ukrainians are fellow russians, we are saving them from the israeli nazi biolabs
>kill all hohols, they are subhuman
which one is it?
amerimutt moron, the Russians are the ones thinking ukrs are saveable, anyone nonmoronic would have realised genocide is the only option.
>that's a rebellion that was made up
Sorry what? Unfortunately Simon Petliura and Pavlo Skoropadski are not fictional characters, despite what they might say on Russia Today.
>color revolutions
>in 1917
uh.....you do realise the entente didnt recognise any breakaway states 'cept poland at all right? and your boogeyman CIA didnt exist either
even galician ruthenians in the ex-austrian empire were trying to join russia, yet you want me to believe that ukrainians were trying to break free
you just mentioned 2 groups of different people you barely sentient moron. people from low iq esl countries should have a much longer cool-down timer on this website
So Americans, Canadians, Aussies and Britbongs can dominate the conversation even more?
Ruthenia is just the latin form of "Rus". Greek is "Rossiya" aka Russia. Belarusians and Ukrainians were called Ruthenians for a lot of time, but then some random christianized mutts from Muscovy literally stole their name.
these random christianized mutts are literally the very same ruthenians except they conquered north and racemixed with finns
that's like saying the goths stole their name from ostergotland in modern day sweden. no you fricking monkey, the goths are from ostergotland
the primary chronicle only mentions belarus-ukraine-novgorod area as "Rus' speaking", and Muscovy ended up genociding Novgorod anyway. the finn part is true though, baltics too.
and the "ruthenians" stayed there Black person, why do you think Lithuania was literally being russified? and later in the 1600s why a Polish-Lithuania-Ruthenian commonwealth was proposed?
the Russian language is derived from old church slavonic, and has less vocabulary and grammatical similarity than all the other ""Old East Slavic""" countries (seriously even fricking ukrainian is closer to polish than russian, east vs west is another arbritary distinction by russoids like the WE WUZ RUS shit as an excuse for empire)
>ukrainian is closer to polish than russian
i wonder why
>I wonder why
Because Poland and Ukraine were literally founded by the same tribe and share the same spoken language, whereas Russian only got by with the nobles and clergy and only really got established as a language very late, not to mention all the asiatic and ugric influences
>polan wuz da real rus
Slavic autism will never cease to amaze me.
That and their ability to kill each other over minor differences, see: Yugoslavia
im not saying that, obviously the language and states dispersed and differences got created, its just that theres a reason why [2 nearby slavic tribes] have more linguistial similarity than with [random finnobalticmongoloid]
*US funds and fomments dissent in yugoslavia for it's entire existance so it can be split up and destroyed*
>why are slavs like this
just look at czechslovakia, they love eachother yet got split up just because they are weaker divided
Czechs and Slovaks aren't at each others' throats all the time because they're not chimp-raged balkanoids.
>muh US subversion
The Balkans were always a shitshow and the ethnic hate there predates any American so much as looking at the region
uhmmm that's not what i saw in ww1
>ITS DA AMERIMUTTS FAULT WE'RE MURDERING EACH OTHER!!!!!!!!!!!
muricans backed seperatists and bombed yugoslav army
>Ukraine
>founded by
what do you mean by this
baltics are pre-muscovites
slavo-balts are much much older than kyivan ukr
and russian and polish are similar enough languages, not to mention how "ukrainian" and "byelorussian" aren't quite real languagues. they have some verb for example that is closer to polish, but since they are russians they normally use the russian verb instead of what would be the proper one in their language, it's literally just a dialect of russian
Why di peiple keep suhhestinh that there's simethinh wrinh with the Ukrainian lanhuahe?
a language is a dialect with an army :^)
Oh shit, sorry I completely forgot that Putin is the savior of the white race and Russia is a christian tradpilled paradise.
Even tough ethnic Russians are minority in Moscow now, even tough Russia has largest muslim population in Europe (excluding Turkey) that is rapidly growing, even tough they still adore communism and communist dictators, even tough the country has very serious issue with alcohilism and drug abuse cutting mean lifespan by decades, even tough Russia has highest divorce rate and HIV rates in Europe, even tough they have one of the highest GINI indexes in Europe, even tough they posses extreme wealth in the form of various natural resources and yet they have one of the lowest GDP per capita in Europe, even tough they are ruled by israelitesih oligarchs.
thank god 99% of black men are christian so western countries can btfo russia in this regard! *kisses black feet* amen
tough doesn't mean what you think it means
>in Europe (excluding Turkey)
sorry we are not european
But based Putin told me that Ukropigs are nazis. So which one is it?
It can be both.
Picture someone holding a flag with a swastika on one side and the EU stars on the other while they deepthroat uncle sam after begging for more weapons so they can allegedly reconquer the borders of the administrative region of the USSR their country was formed out of during a collapse. This is quintessentially the Ukrainian experience, one of schizophrenia.
I think it's fitting their national icon was someone who was shoved in a camp by the Nazis themselves for being absolutely useless and performing random farm murders on Polish peasants then let out when the German frontlines were collapsing and told to go kill Soviets, only to go back to doing random farm murders on Poles.
As a bonus, he even looked like your standard "arrested for possession of child pornography" booking photo
>reconquer
Wait, are we talking about Russia here? Because they're the ones engaged in a war of aggression motivated by fear of resource extraction in Donbas taking away the one bit of leverage they have over White civilization.
crimea and donbass you fricking moron
Yeah, those lands that Russia is trying to reconquer from Ukraine (but getting annihilated by superior Anglo-Saxon weaponry). Were you dropped on the head as a child?
>reconquer from ukraine
uh anon, are you having a stroke?
russia already controls both
Russia has managed to occupy them, they've been unable to force a peace, so their war of aggression isn't going to take them anywhere except collapse as superior Anglo-Saxon technology continues eviscerating their military.
>rambling about anglo-saxons
Anon, it's not the 50s anymore.
America is an ethnic cesspit ran by people who hate actual Anglos and the weapons' components are made in China to be assembled stateside because of course they fricking are.
This is the dumbest, weirdest fricking war ever.
Cope. The MIC is Anglo-Saxon. The US still does all its important manufacturing in the US. Every Anglo-Saxon piece of equipment sent over has been blowing the rusgolian mutt horde into oblivion.
They haven't been able to take out a single HIMARS. They won't be able to kill a single Abrams.
>still recycling muh anglo-aryan wunderwaffen copium
That's why we need to keep sending them, right? Because the previous batch are definitely still operational.
I assume the Abrams' won't be allowed east of Kyiv because the propaganda value of the burnt-out wreck of one that was used poorly by its moronic Ukroid operators being paraded around by the Russians would be far more than their actual combat value.
it's 80's equipment, anyone who is not moronic knows it's not invincible. 40 year old shit is the top of the line the world has
It's depressing, isn't it?
Russia hasn't been able to destroy a single HIMARS.
Proofs?
Inb4
>Ukrainian MoD
lol
You are brown.
>you're brown if you want to stop a moronic boondoggle war that worsens our position against China because burning hard to replace materiel (America hasn't had to purchase large amounts of weaponry and vehicles for a very long time, since all those COIN wars were against random goat herders with AKs instead of an actual state with manufacturing capabilities, in addition to the US spending the past few decades sending most of its industry overseas and focusing what's left on flashy wunderwaffen projects like the F35) by giving it to moronic corrupt slav tribe #2 against moronic corrupt slav tribe #1 isn't an optimal play
Bro, I...
>pops, map, and even has new buildings
You don't want that. It fricks up the proper functioning of the economy and AI can't handle it.
Crimeamod is by far the best if you're looking for actually good gameplay. The other mods are just pretty maps to look at with a lot of historical railroading, but what's the point of playing it if there is no actualy challenge?
Its been over 7 year since last time i played vic2. Whats the deal with crimea mod? Is it better then HPM?
it has much better gameplay with an actually decent AI
I just don't understand why someone would remove cultures in Europe. Its the only continent that matters, of course I want depth there.
>never ever
https://www.moddb.com/mods/star-wars-a-more-civilized-age
GFM would be the best if it cut out the bloat and millions of different pops.
>GFM would be the best if it stopped being GFM
GFM has a lot of good changes like the war goals, scaling infamy, more decisions with alt history paths, some countries that were severely lacking getting provinces split up into multiple smaller ones, ect. But they also add a million other provinces to countries that don't need them and just makes it a mess. there's also a ton of performance issues from the millions of unnecessary pops and worthless african countries too.
last time I played (years ago) HPM was the best mod
what are these new mods about?
this thread is getting deleted, i can sense it
inshallah
>ahahaha knew it was you. you just somehow give off the impression of being fatal levels autistic from just the tone of your posts
love victoria 2 threads
me too bigbro
bigwho???????
>single mention of crimeamod on /vst/
>the thread turns into a nato shill vs vatnik shill pissing contest
can't you Black folk just discuss games?
>mod messes with Black person pops and ukrBlack person pops
>both are shilled by leftists
do you really not expect homosexuals to virtue signal in the current year? the actually bad part is that troony jannies don't delete their off topic kvetching
Kek it true lefty is shill biased mod ? Why janny allow troonys Marxist on website I say !!!
HFM is still the best
Your mother is the best at giving me brain b***h
good thread
>itt
Why is everywhere from Spain to Sweden a desert?
climate change
Cultural acclimitization.
>basically nothing in Ukraine
I chuckled
the soviets aere right in spending most of their existance trying to de-westernize russia...
Your thoughts on CWE? Worth playing?
The entire game breaks the moment you do anything but follow history to the dot, and most events/decisions have options that don't matter at all. Like you could switch nationalist as America, pardon everyone at nuremberg, refuse to enact de-nazification, pardon the japanese government, and don't change the japanese constitution and you will still end up with a liberal democratic germany and italy, and a pacifist japan. And while some like the USA can disable forced election events other democracies can't and you can have a situation where a party would win an election with 100% votes but you'll still be auto switched to a historical party.
As a sandbox it falls apart too because everyone has a million allies so the moment you go to war with anyone ww3 starts, then the game breaks if you win because you probably went to war with USA or USSR and them losing a war will drop them from the 1 and 2 gp list which ends the cold war and breaks any cold war event.
basically it's a VN in a victoria 2 mod format. you just sit there and watch it unfold.
I'm asking ChatGPT to generate mod ideas.
"Ironclad Victoria 2" is a mod for the strategy game "Victoria 2" that presents an alternate history where the naval conflict of the Battle of Jutland is fought not by battleships but by powerful robotic machines piloted by famous politicians of the period.
The mod adds new mechanics to the game, such as the ability to research and build robotic war machines, and the ability to assign a country's leader to command the robotic fleet. As players progress through the game, they will have to make strategic decisions on when to invest in robotic technology and how to best utilize their robotic fleet in battle.
Players can expect to see a wide variety of robotic machines, each with their own unique strengths and weaknesses. For example, the German "Ironclad" is a massive robot with heavy artillery and thick armor, capable of withstanding heavy fire and dealing devastating damage to the enemy, while the British "Thunderbolt" is a fast and agile robot with advanced stealth technology, capable of sneaking up on the enemy and delivering surprise attacks.
The mod also includes new events and decisions, such as the option for a country to invest in robotic technology and the opportunity to assign a leader to command the robotic fleet. The mod also changes the outcome of the Battle of Jutland, adding new possibilities and challenges to the game.
holy kino
Thanks, Japan.
Open Vic 2 just got a dev diary
You guys excited?
>Open Vic 2
Where is this project located? I have literally never heard about or seen anything from them outside of random posts on this board mentioning it.
Is this actually just some sort of a autistic inside joke from /big/ posters?
Link to the discord is in the description
>discord
Why not a git or any place without so many mentally unstable people?
Because its the mentally unstable who are choosing to make this
It's a hilarious title too. Projects like these always dissolve because no one has any real authority. The reason that real companies are able to meet deadlines is because the people on the bottom can't just take their code and go home since they need a job.
lmao, the most prominent channels are
>memes
>off-topic
>history-discussion
and the first thing you see in programming channel is team member who doesn't know how to use lambdas
cope and seethe troony detractor
cont.
compare this with OpenMW Discord where all the most prominent channels are about programming or other work on the project and devs clearly know what they are doing.
>comparing a project that has been going on for decades to one that started a week ago
You redditors really gotta stop with these false equivalences
There is a core difference people around these two projects.
OpenMW was started in obscurity by a bunch of autist and only got popular once they had something that actually works.
OpenVic2 on the other hand, was started by an e-celeb.
>OpenVic2 on the other hand, was started by an e-celeb.
calling spudgun an e-celeb is generous
he's completely unknown to anyone outside the vic 2 community which is already a small community
so he's a big fish in small pond, but a e-celeb nonetheless
It's really stretching the definition of e-celeb
How? "Local celebrity" is an established term - someone not known to wider public but popular among smaller group, like a town.
Same principle.
>Slovak
Opinion discarded
And?
It's not coming out, sorry to tell you. It's clearly led by social climbers and e-celeb fans who care more about their position in the community than developing a game.
lmao they are also using Godot
>27% python
hopefully temporary?
Again: And?
>using an engine known for massive performance issues for a game that can still chug a modern PC due to how CPU-intensive it is
>"This doesn't look exactly like what I would expect it to so it's clearly fake and total bullshit that's gonna fail."
?t=1220
You sound exactly like these guys.
>sound exactly like these guys.
he's' probably one of the redditors from the video
>NOOOO MUH E-CELEB IS GONNA SAVE VIC2
Anyone who isn't sceptical about this is moronic.
>pure white mode
Disturbing
>community manager for a fan project
i asked if they had a transgender on the team and they said "with such a large team, diversity is guaranteed"
then i got banned
>Anonymous 01/27/23(Fri)20:22:43 No.1319
It's weird cos the lead dev hates trannies
It's just because these discords get big and some seething moron will just report a post directly to the discord team and get the server nuked. I'm in a big vic2 discord where no one likes trannies and half them are unironic racists including the mods but they still have to mute people and delete those posts just to make sure the place doesn't get spam reported and nuked. It's extremely gay but until a better alternative to discord is found this is what we unfortunately have to deal with.
I think that one picture of the guy at the furgay con with the DISCORD DEVELOPER shirt sums the whole thing up.
Every online community moving to discord was beyond moronic, we now have a single centralized company hosting basically every online community that can enforce its own rules and whims (and does) without warning or justification. It’s wild that people abandoned forums and IRC for this shit just for what, a pretty phone app?
>It’s wild that people abandoned forums and IRC for this shit just for what, a pretty phone app?
I'd put money that vast majority of discord users have never used a web forum or IRC
You could use Steam Group Chats RIGHT NOW. Valve is basically the least censorious company in the gaming industry to the point that Gabe got a summons to congress to explain why he wasn't engaging in censorship of right-wingers.
top kek mein bruder sounds based
Who hurt you?
That's probably because Spudgun (one of the people involved) and a bunch of the people he hangs out with got shit for some edgy jokes they've made before and they didn't want a repeat of it
I can't wait for this to fail
Frick the paradrone detractors
I know Chadgun will come out of this victorious and all you redditors will be able to do is seethe and downvote
Yes. The mid 2020s are actually gonna be a good time for games.
This but unironically.
No because this is gonna open Vicky 2 up to a wider audience which will draw in normies and redditors and eventually a pony mod will be made for it and then Vicky 2 will go the way of GoY4.
newbie never heard of ponydemand mod?
>composer for openvic
Why? Use the music of the game and concentrate on the fricking code ffs. This thing is going to be a total shitshow
>Use the music of the game
I'm pretty sure they can't do that for legal reasons. They aren't using anything from Victoria 2 to stay as far away from any legal issues as possible.
>concentrate on the fricking code ffs.
How does getting someone to do music take away from coding efforts? If the musician can't code then whether they make music or do nothing has no impact on the state of the code because they wouldn't be doing anything with it anyways.
Not that anon but, from what I understand based on the other "Open whatever" projects, you can use stuff from Vic2 but in a very specific way. The way it would work is that OpenVic2 has to just be a reimplementation of the game engine and have no assets in it, just containing the new code. It would require people to own an actual copy of Vic2 whenever you want to run it. Then when you run OpenVic2, it would look at your copy of Vic2 and use the art/music/etc assets in it. This way OpenVic2 wouldn't be illegally distributing Paradox's materials and wouldn't run into legal issues. So in a way having these new artists and musicians is just unnecessary team bloat.
white russia has quite literally legalized piracy against all enemy nations, all they need is 1 white man willing to take responsibility for whatever the brown yankee troony team does
>Why?
Why the frick not? It's not like they're paying them
Reminder that everyone who wants this project to fail is a troony redditor paraisraelite shill semen slurper.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/crimeamod/downloads/crimeamod-14-tribal-pops-edition
nieuw
>added tribal pops to africa
what's with you chuds and your hateboner for the african peoples?
based
should add tribal pops to the 'stans though
i thought about doing it to all uncivs, basically a system where unciv countries can mobilize, and when they civilize they get a flag that rapidly gets rid of those tribal pops
the problem is, tribal pops rape your economy since they do literally nothing, making it very hard to play as a country with them, and uncivs are already hard.
so i'm not sure how it would be possible to do this
the way I see tribal pops is they expand the RGO opportunities for provinces
once we acknowledge that 90% of African and central Asian pops aren't actually working at the RGO we can have parts of Africa where every province has a top-tier RGO without it being OP
it shouldn't apply to all uncivs though because they weren't all tribal, but I think Africa and central asia are a good start
If the central Asian countries started with 80% tribals then they could have cotton rgos from the get-go
Turks are white and based though frick off
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
Central Asians are not Turks in the sense of T*rkish "Turks", who are the descendants of Slavs, Greeks and Anatolians LARPing as Central Asians linguistically.
you're riight
Anyone know why I can't increase flash point tension in Crimeamod? At first I thought it was because I needed revolution and counterrevolution but that still doesn't do it.
not a thing, crisis only happen from colonial races or when too many rebels rise up from the area, it doesn't slowly grow like in vanilla. this was done to lower the amount of crisis that happens, since crisis in vanilla are fricking moronic and cause a great war every 5 years except nobody gains land
Looks like spudgun can't stand the heat
How long till he has a mental breakdown?
There's nothing wrong with Godot, it's an excellent engine. There is a problem, however, with the project leads not knowing anything about game design. Making a game is HARD, much more than they think it is. Reproducing V2, including its shitty bits, just isn't worth it. It will genuinely be easier and more rewarding to just start from scratch and make a Vicky clone. Even then, the chance of creating something better than V3 is nonexistent. Overall, this is simply a dumb project.
I give better odds to Wiz fixing Vic 3 than this project actually producing a working game.
Trannies here to once again ruin another gaming project
>russian flag
>no ukrainian
im shocked ngl
all smelly turks expelled from ellada...
>ABCTPHR
Why are Russians like this?
it's literally read as "Avstriya"
HPMP has Crimeamod’s AI in HPM
Well, kinda. I've seen people say it doesn't do as good
shut the frick up about ukraine nobody cares, post EPIC vicky screenshots
i fricking hate the anglos!!!!!!
>playing as America
You are anglos.
It's way better fpr your eyes. Just don't use the PC in the dark.
help
final result, because i got btfo'd
mexico 30% yankee, 10% dixie, and 23% mexican + 20% native americans
it's also almost completely devoid of pops
Trying DoD. Why does Burgundy start with a ton of unemployed craftsmen in some regions and no reasonable way to fix it due to not having a party that can build factories available and 0.0% capitalists?
Does one of the latest mods offer an interesting China run?
I tried it years ago, vanilla was way too easy, HPM was railroaded to flood it with revolts and bad events (which makes a lot of sense, but is not appropriate for a human player).
it's always either too easy or too hard
>makes a lot of sense, but is not appropriate for a human player
If you're playing a failing state like Qing you should suffer the same effects that they dealt with
I don't mind China getting fricked, I just don't want to click "OK" on a militancy every 3 seconds because the mod meant China to be AI controlled only.
China kinda has to get fricked because they have a moronic post-civilized state.
EEM makes it so that if the Chinese reactionaries win, they overthrow the Qing. This is a historical change since 99% of Chinese rebels in that era were primarily motivated by overthrowing the Qing.
Crimea mod is fricking moronic. Even GFM is better than that shit.
Why would you still be playing Victoria 2 when Vicky 3 exists?
made me pffffrt
>Playing Spain
>Fight and win the oriental crisis for Egypt
>Fight and win against Britain in their war to free the levant
>Fight and win against the ottomans a second time for the levant
>Fight and win against Prussia for the levant
>Fifth war for the levant featuring Russia and I'm busy so I can't drop everything to send all my troops to the levant so I'm being overrun but I've won 40 warscore in battles so I decide to turtle up at Suez and suffer the ticking warscore while I free up my other armies
>Scripted peace ottoman gets all the levant
>Fight and win the oriental crisis for Egypt
AI Spain doing this is the core of my Egypt strategy.
No need for that,just don't enter the levant.That way the west will never intervene and you can simply defend against the ottomans by baiting them to attack your stacks.The turks won't get any land this way either.
you should play france if you wanna protect egypt
Am I out of the loop or is GFM not the best Vic2 mod? It has some nice submods too.
What an utterly and incomprehensibly shitty mod
Playing EEM as Vietnam right now, lucked into an alliance with the eternal Anglo(might have to do with Japan modernising and getting GP early so the UK is playing the Great Game with Japan in SEA) and have been using them to get war reps from China.
Didn't take any land aside from 2 treaty ports since I want a nice population chart where the primary culture isn't dwarfed by the gorillian Changs. Am just content with liberating and puppeting chinese minors. Hate how large and ugly Chinese provinces are.
The Chinese lunch money is the only thing keeping my budget in the green. I don't make much money at all. What little industry I have are subsidized zombies and I'm not making any profit from exports. I think being in the UK's SOI is fricking my economy in the ass
Finally big Serfia
>redditmod
>no monteBlack
>start up vick 2
>think of ways to improve the game abd try to slowly edit a mod that would be fun to play
>realize im wasting hours on nothing while my real life is shit and i spend no time trying to improve it
>get depressed and go to bed at 3 am
SHIT GAME SNORE FEST
The bloat is what makes HPM/HFM fun. The only thing that I dont like is how they shower us with a bunch of useless events and decisions at the beginning of the game that we realistically never mess with.
Decisions and events are not bloat. Bloat is useless tags and pop types that make the ai unable to play the game properly.
Regular events and decisions are good, what I'm talking about is:
>uhhh, do you want splendid isolation?
>what about the EIC mod?
>have you chosen your trade policy?
>do you want to enable easter egg tags (who the frick wouldnt?)
>do you want us to change the localization of these 2 provinces in the buttfrick of italy?
>how do you feel about the anarcho-liberal ideology?
None of this shit matters, holy shit. Either change the thing or dont. I dont care.
I know what you're talking about in the latter part of your post, but I don't care about it. I only care about you misidentifying other people's complaints about bloat in HPM as complaining about too many events.
wait, what is the bloat in HPM?
serf pops, conscription laws, puppet and substate payments to overlord are the ones that come to my mind immediately
there's more but i can't remember those issues
wtf why are there no ukrainians in crimeamod?
>ukrainians
>>>/x/
>decide to check out Crimeamod
>start game thinking of focusing heavily on African colonization
>open cultural map
>uninstall Crimeamod
but crimeamod is perfect for african colonization
you can clearly see which states you've settled with your white pops
What's the mod in the OP picture?
tgc
anyone interested in discord-free MP with crimeamod?
via hamachi and we organize via imageboard
>discord-free
Why do you have a nice day in a foot just to avoid software you don't like? Imageboards are terrible for organizing something like this. Just swallow your pride and use Discord.
Because discord is unironically a troony magnet
it's spyware, troonyware and censorware why the frick would anyone use it
This is all true, but it doesn't change the fact voice is more useful than no voice. Use teamspeak, ventrilo, or skype if you want to be a contrarian.
victoria 2 has an ingame text chat
you might be confusing it with victoria 3 which has no such feature
stealing all the asiatics for meself because i know japan will israelite me
ai FRCA blobbing into mexico with their friend AI usa
Fricking Black folk, I am the wifeslave dev, I've been avoing this site for 2 weeks.
I will upload my mod and then link it in the next DAYS.
It's not perfect, but I reckon it's a great start for any future modder to develop this game mechanic.
did you manage to make a new mutt culture, or is it just pop growth?
It's not a modifier like pop growth, it increases the population based on the proportion between the primary farmers/labourers and wifeslaves.
I didn't invest my time to search for a mutt culture workaround, which is why I'm releasing only with primary culture borns: so that maybe someone else can work it.
Thank you for the suggestion, playing Crimea mod. First time playing Vic2 in like 5 years. Gonna be a comfy weekend.
Korea is like 4 fricking states now, and I tried every wargoal on China and it looks like I have to release Korea as puppet, then eat them state by state? I want it all conquered pre-westernization so I can state it up and use it to crank factories.
Any better ways to take them over? I looked through the JAP events and there only seems to be one to puppet Korea post-westernization.
Tonghak rebellion in around 1870 usually frees them. Idk if you get an event to re-puppet them, but you could probably just take them by conquest or state by state.
Watch out for the Japanese and the French to snatch them before you do.
I am Japan, thought I included that but didn't lol
As Japan you will be able to puppet them via the Tonghak rebellion and then annex for free.
As anyone else Nationalism & Imperialism tech gives you a CB that allows you to annex an unciv smaller than 7 states in one go.
yoooooo that's so hype, thank you!!
Now for Africa, any tags that have the African uni-culture as an accepted pop? I notice Sokoto is gone but that would be a very funny run.
Ethiopia or Zulu.
Ethiopia is more peaceful, but as Zulus you can even take on Portugal and win.
WUZ
Do I need to be unciv for the Tonghak annex or can I westernize?
I've no clue, I literally never played Japan in Victoria 2.
I've played Korea, I've played Manchuria and Lanfang, but not Japan.
Update, I took Korea via puppet+decsions.
It's a colony, it's 1877, the 500% immigrant attraction in Korea is doing frick all as everyone who wants to emigrate from Japan just leaves the country, none of them move to Korea.
How do I make Korea Japanese? I want factories here >:(
genocide
and colonial migration speeds up in the 1880's when africa gets colonized, because it causes a lot of unemployment in farm rgos
>everyone who wants to emigrate from Japan just leaves the country
Colonial Migration is influenced by separate factors from either international migration or internal migration. In the pop screen you can click on the icon for a specific pop in the province pop list to bring up a window. Hover over the migration numbers in the top right for a tooltip giving you a list of those factors. Or look in the files, it can honestly be more readable.
Oh so that 500% immigrant attraction isn't even doing anything because Korea is all colonial states and not state-states? Frick
Thanks for the info
it does
it means japanese pops migrating to colonies are 500% more interested in going to korea
it doesn't mean 500% more japanese pops migrate to colonies
Endless "tensions in the old world" event spam playing Crimeamod.
Can I just delete this event?
it's used to stop crisis from being caused by anything other than rebellions
What does this mean? Now that you mention it I'm 1870s in my Jap game and I have been invited to zero crises.
I kind of liked how they caused lots of wars amongst the great powers. Why get rid of them?
crisis caused wars but made for shit borders because instead of gps taking land its always some shithole like kurdistan getting released
idk, ngay made it
But why isn't it hidden like in any self respecting mod like hpm?
hows the hungary update for DoD?
I wanted to do an epic nationalist groBdeutesches Reich in CWE, but then I realized it's strictly inferior to the EU path.
In what ways is the AI better in crimea mod? economy? military? everyone says they improved it but I'm still to hear in what way
how about you try it yourself huh?
How about you tell me huh?
I thought it was a joke, with moddb page now I find out this dude is actually a real teacher in a city close to mine, lmao I never thought I would see an openly racist teacher like that, once more people get on to this he's so fricked in current environment
I can't form Scandinavia in crimeamod because Norway is a satellite of Sweden? Who thought that was a good idea?
Post your map, you're likely missing something
Norway, Sweden and Finland have their initial borders and are in my sphere.
Just took the Rhineland as france in crimeamod. Now it's asking me if I want to claim all the lands west of the river Rhine. Idk if I can handle all the containment wars.
new big TGC update. what do y'all think?
when they said there was a scramble for Africa but for China if they haven't westernized yet I was hoping it was more than just an event and the free Africa CBs
what happens then? Im still in the middle of another playthrough and havent seen it
In about 1911 if China hasn't westernized enough all the GPs get the scramble for Africa CB but for china, just quite cheap China states, I was hoping for a little more flavor.
It also supposedly applies to Japan as well but I can't imagine a scenario in which they realistically haven't westernized by then
thats quite boring but 1911 is quite late game so its better then having a bunch of bugged events
victoria universalis for the meems