He's enough of a blank slate for the player to make him their own, and surrounded by a number of different, well-written characters to help refine his personality through interactions
I find it so funny that fanart of Kim always changes his face. They know that ingame he's BEYOND DISGUSTINGLY UGLY and they can't cope with that so they need to give him a jaw and make him less of a racist chinese caricature by making him look human.
They are. Not my fault, i didn't make them that way. Maybe just deal with the fact they are deformed abominations instead of making fanart that makes him have a jaw?
If i were to draw a black character slightly whiter i would be doxxed and have my life ruined.
But you see a disgusting chink freak, you redraw him and redesign him so he's not vomit inducing and that's ok? No.
why did you post a thumbnail of gay porn? Why do I want to go look it up?
ok I just flashed this gay porn across my screen while my mom walked in. She said "goodnight I lo- and I closed out really quickly.
I said "what the FRICK" out loud and turned around with a scowl on my face and said "popups" ( I never curse around my mother so she knows this is serious and that I don't watch gay porn)
I am scared to talk to my mom
My first harry went from abusing every substance and being sad and sorry, to getting sober after talking to tiago. So I shaved and got rid of the expression. It seemed appropriate
He's a broken and defeated addict and debauchee, but just barely avoids crossing the line into a detestable animal who hurts others. Still flawed realistically, but they avoided making him an actual piece of shit instead of just pitiful.
The pitifulness and the amnesia are both played straight successfully, despite being often cliche in this day and age, which was impressive. I honestly rolled my eyes a bit when I first saw the amnesia bit, but the writing just fully embraces it, and it works. They never even give a definite explanation or fix.
The concept of someone coping with personal, local, and societal failures by viewing everything though a shallow and simple political lens is interesting and relatable. Just spewing nonsense political drivel to cope instead of facing truth and real answers. I suppose
Yes, it is. It's pretty clear throughout the game he doesn't have amnesia, Joyce just puts the idea to rest. If you really want more than Trant Hidelstam will give his own, much more verbose verdict on the topic but it still boils down to "he's insane".
God, some of the lines in this game have just stuck with me like nothing else. >Who killed you; >Communism >Who were you; >A killer. A motherfricker and a killer. >True love is only possible in the next world, for new people. It's too late for us. >The mask of humanity falls from capital. >Tell me more about Kras Mazov! >He killed himself. >4.6 billion people and you failed every single one of them. >This is my head. These are my thoughts. >b***h bird deserved it.
It's probably the most quotable game of all time tbh >This is somewhere to be. This is all you have, but it's still something. Streets and sodium lights. The sky, the world. You're still alive. >I don't want to get better - I want to get worse. >In the dark times, should the stars also go out? >TIME TO GO TO WORK IN THE SHIT FACTORYYYYY >Kim *truly* trusts you.
And of course >I’m once again reminded of how Contact Mike rose from the slums of Saint-Batiste to the top of the boxing world, overcoming adversity and serious brain trauma. Nothing is coming - nothing he wouldn’t knock out in three rounds. The real fight is for the right attitude.
11 months ago
Anonymous
the contact mike bit came out of no where and it's fricking ridiculous how they've carried that meme throughout the game without making it cringe
It's probably the most quotable game of all time tbh >This is somewhere to be. This is all you have, but it's still something. Streets and sodium lights. The sky, the world. You're still alive. >I don't want to get better - I want to get worse. >In the dark times, should the stars also go out? >TIME TO GO TO WORK IN THE SHIT FACTORYYYYY >Kim *truly* trusts you.
And of course >I’m once again reminded of how Contact Mike rose from the slums of Saint-Batiste to the top of the boxing world, overcoming adversity and serious brain trauma. Nothing is coming - nothing he wouldn’t knock out in three rounds. The real fight is for the right attitude.
Then you know.
What?
That the bourgeois are not human.
11 months ago
Anonymous
funny how despite DE being a "commie game" the only actual communist is objectively the most pathetic character in the game
11 months ago
Anonymous
The best critics of communism are generally different kinds of communists.
11 months ago
Anonymous
he was the best va performance by far
11 months ago
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11 months ago
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he's close but ancient reptilian/limbic system/hanged man was the best >four point six billion people, and you failed every one of them. you really FRICKED UP, harry
It's probably the most quotable game of all time tbh >This is somewhere to be. This is all you have, but it's still something. Streets and sodium lights. The sky, the world. You're still alive. >I don't want to get better - I want to get worse. >In the dark times, should the stars also go out? >TIME TO GO TO WORK IN THE SHIT FACTORYYYYY >Kim *truly* trusts you.
And of course >I’m once again reminded of how Contact Mike rose from the slums of Saint-Batiste to the top of the boxing world, overcoming adversity and serious brain trauma. Nothing is coming - nothing he wouldn’t knock out in three rounds. The real fight is for the right attitude.
>Seems like the point of this game is *victory*. The absence of defeat on all fronts. Victory in business ventures and creative undertakings. Victory in love and over other people. Political victory. Ideological victory. Hell, even sexual victory. Definitely a lot of object-based victories, too -- having things and not losing them. One problem, though: not a lot of victors in sight. Everyone’s mostly losing. Why is that? And how do you *not* lose? >How *not* to lose? It is impossible not to. The world is balanced on the edge of a knife. It’s a game of frayed nerves. You’re pushed on by numbers and punitive measures: pain, rejection, and unpaid bills. You can either play or you can crawl under a boat and waste away -- turn into salt or a flock of seagulls. Your enemies would *love* that. Or you can fight. The only way to load the dice is to keep on fighting.
I can't remember the exact line because it's been a few years since I've played through it, but the line in the dream about offering the dice to fix things hurt
>there's a Weird Thing! >the main character HAS to be connected to it somehow!
11 months ago
Anonymous
In Harry's case it’s not outrageous to assume his alleged amnesia and supranatural connection with the skills are the direct result of shoving his head into the Pale hole, especially with all the evidence surrounding what happened the night before the game starts.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The only one of his skills that's not just "He's Fricking Crazy" is maybe Shivers. Even EDC having you see what everyone else is up to is more a storytelling thing and not necessarily Harry having psychic visions or whatever. His amnesia is likely just a trauma response due to a combo of substances and nearly drowning when he wrecked his MC (and also probably an attempt to hang himself with the tie). He'd probably eventually regain most if not all of his memory. The Pale is an interesting concept but I don't think it had anything to do with loosing his memory since the Pale is basically made of memories.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The only one of his skills that's not just "He's Fricking Crazy" is maybe Shivers. Even EDC having you see what everyone else is up to is more a storytelling thing and not necessarily Harry having psychic visions or whatever.
shivers being real is canon since revachol getting nuked is confirmed by the book, so it's not crazy to assume that EDC is psychic too >The Pale is an interesting concept but I don't think it had anything to do with loosing his memory since the Pale is basically made of memories.
the pale is made up of memories people have lost, which is why prolonged exposure fricks you up - you lose your own memories and have them replaced by the memories of random dead people. assuming harry did stick his head in the hole he'd be a special case since the hole isn't full-on pale, it's a precursor that will eventually become pale
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean I do subscribe to the theory that the hole had something to do with it but Cleaning Out The Rooms and some of the dialogue options make it seem more like it's not actual amnesia just. Blocking stuff out. As for EDC I think one of the devs confirmed that it's just storytelling stuff but take that with a grain of salt. Same as with all the Pale info we have being mostly just concept stuff that isn't actually in the game or the novel. It's a vague and nebulous thing on purpose most likely. Or they're hacks who didn't think it thru. Still really cool to think about tho
11 months ago
Anonymous
yeah i like the ambiguity of it all, it's up to (You) to decide how much of the supernatural shit is real and how much is just harry being schizo. there's this concept art that explains the pale, it's questionably canon (although dolores getting assassinated by a guy screaming WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FIGURE THIS OUT OURSELVES definitely implies it's canon) but if it's true harry is presumably a magpie
Rigorous Self-Critique >And above all, you let life defeat you. All the gifts your parents gave you, all the love and patience of your friends, you drowned in a neurotoxin. You let misery win. And it will keep on winning till you die -- or overcome it.
>You once jerked off in the locker room and were caught.
gets a lot creepier after the gym teacher reveal
11 months ago
Anonymous
Shivers and IE are a least a little supranatural. It can't all be insight and gut feelings, right?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly I think IE isn't but Shivers is mostly just based on the fact Shivers has a different voice but IE doesn't. IE is mostly delusion as well while Shivers isn't (debatable). I take both every time because of how interesting they are.
11 months ago
Anonymous
shivers is 100% supernatural because the book confirms that revachol gets nuked which is what la revacholiere warns you about
IE might be supernatural but i can't think of any instances where it tells you something harry couldn't have figured out himself so i think it's more schizo gut feeling
11 months ago
Anonymous
revachol gets nuked?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>questionably canon
Noid figured it out.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But what if some innocence will yoink the tech to combat the pale, huh? Noid-fricker.
11 months ago
Anonymous
pre release descriptions of the skills by the devs confirmed that shivers is supernatural and esprit de corps isn't
11 months ago
Anonymous
Shivers is the only one that provides Harry with knowledge he shouldn't know, like the coat hidden in the pipe under the FELD building. Espirit de corps could just be Harry imagining what his squad is doing at that time
>I honestly rolled my eyes a bit when I first saw the amnesia bit
Not gonna lie, I almost got filtered by that. But I already bought the game so I figured I'd give it a chance. Thankful that I did, I ended up really liking it
This. He's a fricking mess but written well enough to be on the right side of relatable and to still have some sort of hope. You find yourself rooting for him despite the situation he's put himself in.
>Joyce gives a rundown on the history of Revachol >"The communists were all infected by a brain virus that made them revolt" >"Thats the only reason. <3"
That's not how I remember it, at least once she's fully honest. Like eventually she declares that she herself sympathizes with the revolutionary spirit but its like her job is all she has left amidst the Pale.
i quit the game after this phone call. the VA did an amazing job. it sounded like genuine emotional agony. ill never know how the game ends but in my playthrough i just assume he an heroed after this
>why does kim use such an impractical 1 shot pistol?
The Moralintern supplies the RCM, and they don't want to give them actual effective weapons for fear of an uprising if the RCM remembers their ICM roots.
The mercenaries are geared with actual modern weaponry, the RCM gets scraps because they're only ever supposed to need them to shoot a couple of guys, maybe, not get into a firefight with armored kill-squads.
After opening the secret compartment on harry's clipboard I dedicated a lot of my run to trying to figure out who exactly dora was and seeing if I could fix the unknown problem between harry and her.
This scene fricked me up in many ways.
>le Ganker when snoy makes a movie game: 🙁 >le Ganker when commie homosexuals make a shitty movie game (it has epic smirking man and chink homosexual): :DDDD
>Kim earns less than Harry >Kim has an expensive hobby >Kim sees a normal man >Harry has put himself into abject poverty with the power of drinking to forget
That's entirely down to their giving special thanks to Marx whilst recieving their game award years ago. This happened sufficiently long ago that most people have either forgotten or have got bored of sperging so most discussions are in good faith now.
>people still think its a commie game >be mildly critical of communism >say everyone is just as bad if not worse >say it is a kino centrist game
It is the same thing with the bear sex in BG3. The problem is that everyone else couldn't get away with doing these things or much less.
to be fair, the writing leads and lots of other people that worked on the game are all communists and the game was huge in far-left circles. not far off for people to assume.
Nah, my backlog is big enought, if I wanted a point and click, I'd play Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, won't bother with DE just because pic related tickle my pickle
I kinda wish all ideologies got a unique background, it's what I expected when I saw this before playing, but I guess just all fascists get it. I wonder what's the reasoning
The fascist path is the most boring, while still being fairly difficult since the thoughts are difficult to handle.
It deals with a bitter but yet still hopeful solution. In a world where higher values are worthless, maybe the best you can do as a fascist, is to portray those revacholian values despite the odds.
While the other political values deal mostly with worldly affairs, the fascist path deals with your inner self.
>fascist quest reveals that measurehead is actually one of the most reasonable insightful characters outside of the race theory shit
whole questline is worth it just for the convo with him tbh
He just feels like a real person. It's rare to come across protags in video games that don't feel like they were slotted in as the plot device you play as these days. It's also pretty amazing how he just kinda naturally conforms himself around your own beliefs depending on which dialogue options you pick and relationships to other characters in the game and all that.
Two things that should be in every RPG that most RPGs don't have at all.
>just kinda naturally conforms himself around your own beliefs
I wouldn't call it 'conforming' when he's spouting nonsense as a cope for his wife leaving him, to the point nobody ever calls him out on switching positions drastically even in the same conversation.
>expecting vee of all places to successfully critique a game that already had a masterful writing
You would have to roll 20 on d20 4 times consecutively
Reminder that one of the most rational level-headed and likable characters in the game (Lilienne) is a fascist revolutionary >Reveres the sun as if it were a deity (reminiscent of traditionalist pagan beliefs commonly associated with esoteric right-wing values, is also used to portray monarchists/fascists in the DE universe (Gary the Cryptofascist has a flag on his wall with the old Revacholian suzerainty's logo, which is a sun, and your own portrait adds a sun-like insignia in a Fascist run as well), likely connected to the black sun) >names her skiff "The Sun" >wields a sword (like the in-game royalists) (also like Mussolini) >Shivers explicitly says she owns a pair of cavalry boots >her own daughter calls her a revolutionary (and yes, the definition of "revolutionary" used in DE also includes fascism, Call Me Manana calls you one if you choose fascist-leaning dialogue options) >she's a no-nonsense working class citizen who's skeptical of the union, critical of the drunks around her, and infuriated with the delinquents and criminals in revachol >titus says that the fishing village staunchly refuses to unionize, likely at the behest of Lilienne and the washerwoman >Lilienne's daughter hums the overworld theme, which was a tune used by the Revacholian royalist forces >successfully going on a date with her doesn't lead to her practically opening her legs for you, instead she sets boundaries and thanks you while considering a second bout later down the line to see if you can stick with your sobriety and piece your life back together >esteems her family above all else >immensely cooperative with the police, even with the knowledge of harry's recklessness and endangerment of multiple people, including and especially himself >whereas the washerwoman calls the RCM a bad omen, Lilienne has splash dialogue that says she is relieved to see the RCM
and she's cute too
Bro revolutionary doesn't mean "anyone who fought on either side of a revolution." It's the people doing the fricking revolution. This isn't even semantics, this is esl-level shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Bro revolutionary doesn't mean "anyone who fought on either side of a revolution."
I never said it is. >It's the people doing the fricking revolution
Therefore, she is politically charged, no?
11 months ago
Anonymous
She's not the one responsible for instigating the revolution. So no, she isn't.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Gee, I suppose Rene and Measurehead and Joyce and Sunday Friend are entirely apolitical too. Fricking moron.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Her being "politically charged" is a huge leap in mental gymnastics, let alone her being a fricking revolutionary. She's clearly an uneducated simpleton and she only wields the sword because no one else around her is capable of doing anything remotely close to standing their ground should it become necessary. The other characters you mentioned are very obviously politically charged-- they talk about it completely openly. Lillienne doesn't do that at all, not a single time. She's just a tired, broken widow with too many responsibilities and very little help. That's all.
11 months ago
Anonymous
She is described as a revolutionary. Every bit of dialogue and text serves a purpose. There are no mistakes. Lilienne, unlike the rest of those knuckledraggers, is a realist, and puts her real-life situation before her political standing, but that doesn't invalidate the latter. She also talks about her beliefs and alludes to her values when you talk to her, and especially during the date, but it's got a lacquer of nuance to it you won't find throughout the majority of the rest of the game. That's why she's the best written character in DE. >broken widow
Hardly broken, she's the strongest and most resolute person in Revachol.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Admittedly, maybe I was a bit too hasty to describe her as "broken." You are correct in that, despite the trauma she has been through, she has not succumbed to degeneracy and given up on her responsibilities as a parent or as a member of her community. Nor has she begun to irrationally despise men as most people in her situation likely would.
When exactly is Lillienne described as a revolutionary? And when exactly does this "lacquer of nuance" you describe shine through her values? Her fascination with the sun sounds like something any resolute person without a formal education would believe. It hardly gives off the impression that she is instigating a cultural revolution.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Her daughter calls her a revolutionary (a term she has heard so often in relation to her mother that she has now associated the two and goes so far as to introduce strangers to her mother through that classification). The lacquer of nuance I referred to is in the manner in which she only cursorily and secondarily gives rise to her views and leanings, she never outright and brazenly says something like "Long live the monarchy" but she very clearly wants to set an example not only for her children but for the rest of the village, too, seeing as how she's one of the last remaining residents with any grit and integrity. That fascination with the sun also corresponds to the insignia that is commonly associated with in-universe fascism, which centers around symbolic use of the sun as well. She wears military boots from the monarchic era, wields a sword, engages in physical labor, and is a naturalist. If that's not traditionalist at the very least, I don't know what is. Pair that with the aforementioned fascination with the sun, a notable fascist symbol in the disco elysium universe, and there's little room to doubt that Lilienne is, at least covertly, a fascist.
>Subdue the regret. Dust yourself off, proceed. You'll get it in the next life, where you don't make mistakes. Do what you can with this one, while you're alive.
Volition being such a bro throughout the game makes it hit so much harder when he breaks down in the dream >I can't help you. I am totally useless. Everything I've said is lies. I want the exact same bad things you want. To stand here, like a pillar of salt, saying... I unironically cried
he's trying, anon, but he's just a voice in your head - you have to make the choice to listen to him instead of all the voices telling you it's hopeless
same here bro..
Think fondly and sadly how stupid and naive i was..Broke me so bad i am still an alcoholic..
Sad thing is ..that i dont think she loved me..just needed someone to love her more than anything..And i did..
To further clarify, it's my autistic abstinence and insistence on being left alone that does this. I'm very tired of women that think they can 'save me' when I don't need it. I've got better shit to do.
This chick I knew since highschool. Dated for 2 years and then she cheated on me. Took me 6 years to get over it.
Seeing Harry also struggle to get over his ex after all those years made me feel for him. His pain was my pain.
There was one crazy b***h I met in fricking alcoholics anonymous (when I say crazy b***h, I mean that literally) who I ended up getting a painfully strong crush on. She was the perfect mix of terrible c**t and genuinely caring. As sweet as she could be, I knew ever getting together with her would be a death sentence for both of us. Never told her how I felt and ghosted her, because I needed to.
Man, I didn't even really like her. We "dated" for whatever constituted for that in high school. I'm an evil, selfish bastard who had her as a gf while I was too wretched and pathetic to speak to the girl I really liked. Then she left me for another guy the moment college hit and for some reason then it kills me. Doesn't end there, we still talk, says we'll get back together, just gives me a failure complex and a belief that if I ever got with anyone they'd just fine someone better later on. She leads me on while she moves on with her life, girl I like and every girl I subsequently like fades off the radar because I'm so psychologically self-deprecating. Should never have gotten with that girl. It wasn't healthy and it deformed me. I'm seriously lonely and I can't talk to anyone about it. All I can do is scream into the abyss, at best hoping for a (You) and being called a f****t.
Talking to people about these things isn't a *bad* idea, but I've found that, more often than not, they will react about as predictably as you can imagine. I tried telling a couple of my closest friends about my "Dora" situation, and that's precisely how they responded-- pointing out the obvious fact that what I was telling them was fricking insane and that I should seriously consider letting it go. It was certainly embarrassing but it also put the reality of my obsessive insanity into perspective, almost like it was finally given a real form that I could identify and rationalize rather than having to continue perceiving it as a chaotic nebula of uncertainty.
I've still got the chick in the back of my mind and I do recognize that what I want is probably harmful, but believing that I might someday be able to make it work is incredibly comforting. I don't have anything as comforting as that anymore.
Irene
its been 5 years now
progressed past all the stages of loss, and I still think about her
and I will still think about her on my death bed
I just hope she thinks back about me fondly at least once
LOGIC [Easy: Failure] - This line of thought makes perfect sense, actually. Pride is stored in the heart. She figuratively broke your heart to steal your pride. Now you must literally break hers to get back your stolen pride.
Amirah. It was stupid, we were in high school, and we had to sneak around because her parents wouldn't let her date outside her race, but I honestly saw myself marrying her when we somehow kept it going into college. Then she dumps me via text after I traveled 200-miles round trip just to see her. Couldn't even tell me to my face when I was there.
>200 miles round trip
Brother
I just traveled 2500 round trip just to see the twin of an Amirah
Still holding a torch for her, in a way
But Disco teaches us that when we deify others, we're not engaging with the real them anymore. The person in our memories and minds is not human
Never had one. And tbh, I never want one. If a woman holds so much power over your life that if she leaves you're a hollowed-out, shell of a man- something's wrong on your end, chief
frick you for that question anon Her name was Kira and she fricked me up mentally to the point that she lives rent-free in my head over a year later. I can still hear her voice
Felicia.
4 year relationship, she was cheating on me for 2 and a half of those. I was in denial for most of it, and a literal cuck for the last 10 months.
One day she 'swapped faces' right in front of me, and I broke. Called my stepdad to get me the frick out of there, lost everything we'd earned together.
It's been 17 years.
I have not recovered.
I will not recover.
Don't become like me, please, Ganker.
Lmao, I'm a decade younger than Harry and I still think I'm too old to kill myself over some pussy. Women are overrated. Still necessary, but overrated.
I was madly in love with her but didn't say anything, then she asked me to go see a movie with her, we continued going to movies together for several months until she met another guy and that was that. Didn't ever tell me she was interested or whatever. Never even got to hold her hand.
My first girlfriend from over a decade back, we dated for years before I found out she was cucking me. She said I deserved it then moved in with a friend of mine she'd been sleeping with. I spent a long time as an alcoholic after that until I tried to kill myself.
I've been clean 6 years now and got married this year to an amazing wife. The phonecall scene with Dora stuck with me though, the jealousy and hopelessness was spot on.
Julia
we weren't even together, she had a boyfriend and we grew closer spending a lot of time together, commuting, studying over the course of a school year. my dumbass ofc caught feelings
told her my feelings and she cut me off entirely, just took my heart and stomped it mercilessly via text and acted as the offended party as if I wasn't the one making all the little sacrifices over the year to support her and was now discarded because I was inconvenient.
it doesn't hurt anymore, did for years, but my current work is close to her home, and I'd lie if I said I didn't hope to see her at some point just to call her the immature exploitative prostitute she is.
on the other hand I was still in full grief from this shitshow when I played disco elysium so Harry was full on kino to me, perfect synchronicity
There's this one chick who I drank with through high school. The only person ever to understand me, and vice versa. Neither of us drink anymore otherwise, but we see each other once a year and go on a multi-day bender.
Everyone who replied to this post should get a fricking grip and stop feeling sorry for themselves. People are as fallible as your own dispositions and opinions make them out to be.
>teens
No, that's when love truly dies. Subsumed into carnal desires and egocentrism. Teenagers are fickle and capricious, and love is wasted on them. They could not ever possibly experience love--it is biologically and psychologically impossible.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds like you missed out, man.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I had multiple girls show interest in me, I turned them all down. I was never naive enough to fall for the grift that is another person's narcissistic longing for validation. I'm too good for these people.
Well my heart breaking was due to her simply not wanting to date me. I idolized her at the time (maybe in a sense I still do) and her saying no to us being together just kinda demolished me. To this day I still say that she's the only girl that ever made me cry.
However I cannot fault her for it, nor would I force her. So it's got nothing to do with her kindness.
My God get over it you weepy homosexual
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's not really about the multiple girls, most are basic enough not to give a shit about. It's about those who are actually good enough. If you never met one, you missed out, and now it's too late.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it's about those who are actually good enough
Doesn't exist. The only people worthy of respect are people you shouldn't ever burden with your own desperate groping for validation.
I'm just saying it was definitely love.
If your "love" brought you to this, then it's not love.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Hey I'm doing okay man lmao stop projecting, like I said I've been in love since and I probably miss her more. I'm happy just waiting for the next time.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Love cannot be as fragile as that. It wasn't love then, and whatever escapades you've gone on since then weren't fueled by love either. You don't miss her, you miss the way she made you feel.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, yeah you're probably right regarding your last sentence. But if that the case meh, I'll just keep chasing that feeling. It's fun, it's worth the heartache. Its worth saying I've only felt that way twice out of the 5 people I've dated.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Thing is, if you think it's about validation, you don't have the faintest idea of what it is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
This is actually true anon, I know. It's easy to find validation. There is a key difference between being in a relationship because you love the person vs you being in a relationship that's good enough bc of the validation. I've been in both.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's an obsession with a faint conception of the image you drape the other person around in and desperately wish was true. Your "love" is finding out that that person aligns with the thing you want them to be. Your "loss" is the inverse.
I mean, yeah you're probably right regarding your last sentence. But if that the case meh, I'll just keep chasing that feeling. It's fun, it's worth the heartache. Its worth saying I've only felt that way twice out of the 5 people I've dated.
Keep setting yourself up for failure and misery, you don't deserve to inherit the world around you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, I have no preconceived notions about saving the world I just wanna grill and write.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>saving the world
Living in the world, anon. Im saying your head's in the clouds. Get back to Earth.
11 months ago
Anonymous
And what be dour and depressed like you? I am living in the world, anon. Becoming an extrovert and trying to connect with others is the best decision I have ever made. (I still like being mean to people on the internet though). It is you who has their head buried in the sand.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I have no delusions about any of this. I know, and have always known, how shallow all of this is. Time and time again I get proven right.
[...]
Integrity and excellence. I love myself above all, and I'm happy knowing I'm doing great and everyone keeps desperately groping at me. Nobody in the world deserves someone as good as me.
also >I am living in the world
A pleasure-seeking validation-seeking materialist does not a living entity make.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, I think if you can recognise your behavior it's okay. I don't engage with anything beyond my means and still am focused on my ascetic principles. I just like connections and human beings. We are social creatures, after all.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>We are social creatures
Nothing irritates me more than this meaningless platitude. How would you know this? By socializing? Would the anti-socialites ever speak for themselves? What a stupid idea.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, because it's a helpful survival technique inherited by our hunter gather ancestors midwit.
The reason you feel as you do is because of increased alienation due to technological progress taking over our natural evolution.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong again. You missed out, man, and will never understand what it is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I have no delusions about any of this. I know, and have always known, how shallow all of this is. Time and time again I get proven right.
And what be dour and depressed like you? I am living in the world, anon. Becoming an extrovert and trying to connect with others is the best decision I have ever made. (I still like being mean to people on the internet though). It is you who has their head buried in the sand.
Integrity and excellence. I love myself above all, and I'm happy knowing I'm doing great and everyone keeps desperately groping at me. Nobody in the world deserves someone as good as me.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You can't be proven right if you have never been there. All you're doing is coping.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You can't be proven right about shooting yourself in the foot being stupid unless you've shot yourself in the foot
Compelling argument!
11 months ago
Anonymous
I haven't been making any other arguments. You missed out, and are incapable of understanding what it is. Not finding anyone to love does not make you enlightened on the subject.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Me not finding anyone worthy of loving is not my fault. It's theirs for not being good enough. The fact that I have to explain this to you shows me just how deluded you are. Seeing as how you can't contend with any of the points I've been making and are settling for moronic gripes "you didn't get swindled like I did!" tells me all I need to know. Sounds like you're the one coping, as if you've learned anything from these disasters. Get real.
11 months ago
Anonymous
"Good enough?" Anon, tell me, what do you value in others?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Of course it's not your fault, it's an unfortunate fact of your life.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I haven't been making any other arguments. You missed out, and are incapable of understanding what it is. Not finding anyone to love does not make you enlightened on the subject.
You have missed out you know anon. I felt like you once. When I was 17.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Except you didn't have nearly enough of a backbone. There's a difference between being self-absorbed and dignified, and that's putting your money where your mouth is. You just don't measure up, chump. And that's why you need external validation.
"Good enough?" Anon, tell me, what do you value in others?
Beauty, intelligence, excellence, integrity (not becoming something they're not for the sake of anyone else), non-consumerism, dignity, clarity, the ability to not need justifications for their lives by proxy.
Of course it's not your fault, it's an unfortunate fact of your life.
Still not an argument.
What's with all these preachers on Ganker?
>ChristBlack folk still absolutely fricking seething because their entire way of life has been outed a s psyop in front of their eyes and they can't bring themselves to accept it
They love threads like this because they can take advantage of vulnerable and helpless anons to shill their cult to. Disgusting really. See how they recoil and start making attacks as soon as they're rebuked for their behaviour?
Samegay
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Mass replying like a genuine bonafide Black personhomosexual
11 months ago
Anonymous
Seethe
11 months ago
Anonymous
There's nothing to argue. All the points you have made just go to show that you don't understand what you're talking about. If you had experienced it, there could be a discussion to be had, but until then it's going to be this back-and-forth with your, frankly, childish notions of what you imagine love to be.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Like I said, you don't have to have a nice day in the foot to know shooting yourself in the foot is a fricking stupid idea. You still haven't been able to argue against that point. You will never, ever learn. 5 times and you still haven't learned your lesson. What's worse, 3 of those times, you've actually been an actively evil self-aggrandizing force leeching off of these girls.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, because the point is false, and nothing you feel will make it true. Also, you seem have me confused with another, or multiple other anons.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Beauty, intelligence, excellence, integrity (not becoming something they're not for the sake of anyone else), non-consumerism, dignity, clarity, the ability to not need justifications for their lives by proxy.
I'm sorry you haven't met someone like that anon, but do you actually try or are you waiting for it to be handed to you. The two women I've been in love with (out of the plethora I've dated) were exactly like that. One was a die hard communist (a real one, not preformative) and the other was a die hard unionist who cared so much for the common man it was infectious. Things happen, I broke up with both of these women because of circumstances out of our control and my own issues.
Anon you need to do something. It will happen.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>communist and unionist
I said intelligent, not deluded. Fighting for "le working class" is about as stupid of a venture as I can imagine. Naive moralizing garbage. The fact that you value these women shows just how moronic you are. >but do you actually try or are you waiting for it to be handed to you
Yes, I've had women come after me, and I put myself in situations where I would be able to find someone like that, and nobody meets my standards. I won't adjust them for the sake of some nonsensical self-validation, just to say "I did it" or "I lived through it" for the sake of it. Drivel. Frivolous garbage to me. I'd rather die alone than settle for less.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>This homie thinks he's something special
11 months ago
Anonymous
Alright then stop talking about it on the internet and let people live their happy, frivolous lives.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nice post andrew tate now frick off
11 months ago
Anonymous
Don't you dare conflate me with that sexist materialist swine.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Don't you think I'm trying, you prolapsed butthole?
Frick you and your mother
11 months ago
Anonymous
There is no *trying* to get over it. Either you do, or you don't. It's a fact to regard, not a riddle. It's very straightforward. There's nothing to figure out.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I've been in love since then, but from 18-20 I experienced a total love and infatuation that I can never replace.
I remember once we were playing a board game in our modest little flat, on our modest little mattress. (Our bed broke and we hadn't replaced it yet). It was diplomacy. Things got a little heated but it stopped when she looked me dead in the eyes, started crying and told me she loved me. She smiled like I'd never seen anyone smile before. I think about it all the time. God I miss her.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Meaningless drivel. Look how all that turned out. It's absolutely nothing. Self-aggrandizing nonsense. She was happy for herself. Wake up.
Her name was Elma. We had a very brief thing and we're still friends today but after several relationships I still care about her so much that even if I hold something against her it all melts away when I see her. She is the most energetic person I've ever seen, sort of an anthithesis to my own behavior and she is incredibly kind to those that deserve it.
Although her breaking my heart five years ago hurts like a motherfricker, and she does not want to give me another try. It hurts so fricking bad.
>she is incredibly kind to those that deserve it >although her breaking my heart...
Sounds like she's not as saintly as you make her out to be. "Nice and kind" people are the most despicable sorts of people.
Well my heart breaking was due to her simply not wanting to date me. I idolized her at the time (maybe in a sense I still do) and her saying no to us being together just kinda demolished me. To this day I still say that she's the only girl that ever made me cry.
However I cannot fault her for it, nor would I force her. So it's got nothing to do with her kindness.
Her name started with a K. She was my first love and I fricked it up big time by being a drunkard 4 or 5 years ago. 2 days ago I spotted her serving drinks at an event I was partying on and I recognized her face, she must have recognized mine because when I looked again she had a face of disgust. I then awkwardly stumbled out of the event and told my friends to take me to the nearest liquor store, then all I remember after that is waking up with the worst hangover I've had in years, at least my belongings were safe.
Mine was a girl named Ava, we dated for 3 years and "broke up" that October. It was never official, the last thing she had said to me was "I love you, I'll see you tomorrow" and I never saw her again.
One of my friends had encouraged her to cheat on me a month before our 3rd year anniversary and he didn't tell me about what was happening until well after she had left. I have not been the same since and I know my friends in some way actively mourn who I used to be, even if they would never admit it. >lesbian relationship btw
The problem with this game, IMO, is once you have played it once, it's not really worth it to play again and actually experience the different dialog and personality
Rigorous Self-Critique >And above all, you let life defeat you. All the gifts your parents gave you, all the love and patience of your friends, you drowned in a neurotoxin. You let misery win. And it will keep on winning till you die -- or overcome it.
>Who doesn't toy with the thought of suicide sometimes? Or, like, most of the time? Okay, maybe some people don't – like the happy scientist girl named Marie, or Jean-Marc, the superstar whom everyone loves. But you -- when the going gets rough, it's nice to think about your little trap door out of here. Do it. Put your finger on the eject button, see how alive it makes you feel -- the freedom of finality. Think of how much they'll *miss* you.
Unironically the best depiction of suicidal thoughts I've ever read. The way it starts out as over-the-top maudlin self-pity but turns into emotionless pragmatic planning the second Harry actually decides to do it is so fricking accurate you can tell Kurvitz has actually gone through it
I don't think I could ever actually do it, but buying a gun did make me feel less "trapped" in a sense, which is one of the worst parts of feeling bad. I can endure when given some length of time, but I can't endure forever. I can work with even just one option, but not zero
Unironically the best depiction of suicidal thoughts I've ever read. The way it starts out as over-the-top maudlin self-pity but turns into emotionless pragmatic planning the second Harry actually decides to do it is so fricking accurate you can tell Kurvitz has actually gone through it
>that scene when harry is looking through his clipboard and finds two zoo tickets
>"Two octopuses are smiling, reaching their tentacles toward each other in the coloured pencil drawings. The tickets permit access to a zoo in Revachol East. The aquarium costs extra -- they let you go there too. You should go and have a nice day there.
>Who doesn't toy with the thought of suicide sometimes? Or, like, most of the time? Okay, maybe some people don't – like the happy scientist girl named Marie, or Jean-Marc, the superstar whom everyone loves. But you -- when the going gets rough, it's nice to think about your little trap door out of here. Do it. Put your finger on the eject button, see how alive it makes you feel -- the freedom of finality. Think of how much they'll *miss* you.
Unironically the best depiction of suicidal thoughts I've ever read. The way it starts out as over-the-top maudlin self-pity but turns into emotionless pragmatic planning the second Harry actually decides to do it is so fricking accurate you can tell Kurvitz has actually gone through it
Yeah I get the thought once every 2 months at this point.
>sometimes Technically, my life is actually going pretty great right now, but after I ran out of real and immediate problems, my brain came up with imaginary ones with much less obvious solutions.
>elysium is one of my favorite game settings ever >we've barely seen any of it >we will never see more of it because it was stolen by shady estonian businessmen
how do i make it stop hurting, bros?
>how do i make it stop hurting, bros?
Cope by telling yourself DE was always going to be lightning in a bottle, and the sequel would have just somehow retroactively ruined the first one anyways. In which case never having a (real) sequel is a blessing
>finally decide to try >play for 4-5 days (a few hours a day since work was busy) >really enjoy it >end the first day well, clean up the body and make some progress on other ends >bg3 comes out >nolife that, just started act 3
Welp I guess I'll come back to disco in 1-2 weeks but I'm already forget 1/2 the shit, frick
I like this book game so much that I want to start reading actual books. Can any Gankerbros recommend me some books with a similar vibe to DE? The setting isn't too important, I just want to read something about the inner psychology of some fricked-up guy that's both depressing and hopeful.
Have you read anything by Dostoevsky? His books are not exactly like DE but they do involve a lot of psychology and have the depressing and hopeful feel you're looking for.
infinite jest has a similar writing style and deals with a lot of the same themes (especially addiction, if you like drugs or alcohol you should read IJ)
it's a bit of a hard read since it's a thousand pages long but it's worth it
Notes from Underground by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Nausea and No Exit by Jean-Paul Sartre
The Stranger by Camus
100 Years of Solitude by Gabriel Marquez
The Temple on the Golden Pavillion by Yukio Mishima
pretty much any book by Thomas Pynchon but especially either Gravity's Rainbow if you're looking for that 'depressing but hopeful' feel or Bleeding Edge if you want a frickup detective who bumbles their way through the case I also hear Choke by Chuckwhatever (the guy who wrote Fight Club) is pretty good when it comes to depressing inner narratives but I haven't read it
The self-deprecating jokes are backed up by him being genuinely suicidal and believably broken.
It is a very literary game and the developers are familiar with writing real literature. The writing took precedence over gameplay due to the very straightforward (or well barebones) gameplay.
In a word. Uncompromised.
This was the most moving ending to a videogame I've ever witnessed. It's unbelievable because, in a sense, something like this was the only way the investigation could conclude, but until it happens it is unfathomable.
>omething like this was the only way the investigation could conclude
Unless you frick up the roll and get nothing
i'm pretty sure the roll is guaranteed to succeed if you sprayed yourself with the pheromones
but yeah it shouldn't even be behind a roll, it's too important to be missable
>omething like this was the only way the investigation could conclude
Unless you frick up the roll and get nothing
>DETECTIVE >ARRIVING >ON THE SCENE
[...]
i'm pretty sure the roll is guaranteed to succeed if you sprayed yourself with the pheromones
but yeah it shouldn't even be behind a roll, it's too important to be missable
I fricked up the roll. I didn't realise it was a big deal.
How bad did I miss out? Did I really miss out on the fricking ending? I should play it again anyway but damn.
Meh, Disco Elysium is more of a interesting story with different approaches and less of a good game to me.
Mainly because you cannot really botch the investigation and it always concludes the same way.
>Knew vaguely that you get to find the phasmid someplace in the game >Knew that it talks to harry >Expected it to be a plausibly deniable hallucination that only Harry sees >Get to the end and wonder if I missed it >This happens
Never have I felt such emotion and wonder in a game before. Disco Elysium is something special.
>Kurvitz listened to their music, said to himself "that'd go great in a videogame" and then paid them to let him use it
Kurvitz and Kojima are the only devs based enough to do this and I love them for introducing me to Sea Power and Low Roar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqf-92FNGv4
Because a lot of it is literally just from Sea Power albums, with the rest filled in by the band
Kurvitz listened to their music, said to himself "that'd go great in a videogame" and then paid them to let him use it
>Kurvitz listened to their music, said to himself "that'd go great in a videogame" and then paid them to let him use it
Kurvitz and Kojima are the only devs based enough to do this and I love them for introducing me to Sea Power and Low Roar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqf-92FNGv4
Great music. I always get a little emotional listening the DE soundtrack/Sea Power because I was going through cancer treatment when I played it.
Man I remember dropping the game because my dad is 1 to 1 harry and I couldn't take it.
Extremely charismatic talk to everyone resourceful guy who's brain was completely shattered when my mom left him due to refusing to stop being a wild animal. I've desperately tried to get him out of it, and every once in a while I got a little spark of genius out of him only for it to get snuffed out again with drugs and booze.
Filled with love and potential but like a starship who's engine exploded halfway and is just spinning out of control.
Finally finished it last week, at least I got to give my Harry a better ending.
When I started the game, I was really expecting the plot to be "You're really dead, and this is your brain's final cope before you fade into the void forever"
I'm considering playing this game after it being in my backlog for awhile because the last couple of games I've played have all been 3D action adventure and I need something different.
garte becomes based after the tribunal >says "i realized i don't actually give a shit if i live or die" >empathy goes "holy shit, he's telling the truth"
if during the tribunal you tell the mercenaries someone else could've done it, and have learned about the secret passageways previously, when asked how it's possible for anyone else to have been present to do the killing, you can say "there are secret passageways in the whirling in rags that some people know about! like Garte!"
garte's reaction had me rolling on the floor for a solid five minutes
>discovering the Insulindian Miracle >dancing in the church as Revachol reaches out for you to save her
What other moments of hope for our boy Harry stood out?
Oh wait didn't see the hook. No, my post is not a bait, I actually played this "game". Got a dialogue in the end where I was called insane for wearing armour, was pretty funny, one of the things I actually rememberd after the playtrhough.
the joke is that it's not actually homosexual that is being censored but the in-universe version of homosexual. but because it's censored you just think it's homosexual. the game has ever other in-universe slur uncensored and characters use slurs pretty liberally. try playing it again. you can even be racist yourself
There are at least two uncensored f****ts, one is Kim if you get him to wear the Pissf****t jacket, the other is the narrator at some point, I think also in relation to the jackets
> the other is the narrator at some point, I think also in relation to the jackets
it's when you're jumping to get your jacket, the narrator describes cuno calling you a flying homosexual
>Kurvitz will not become the slavic Kojima because the producers israeliteed him out of the company and slandered his name and blackballed him out of the industry
Feels fricking bad bros
>book >Revachol get nuked, world war happen, the Pale swallows them all in the end >game >Harry feels that Revachol will be nuked and the city itself ask him for help, and the tone is in general more hopeful
I wonder if it's the author attempting to retcon his own lore by having a character capable of saving his universe for total destruction.
how different is the game if you pick a completely different build? considering a second playthrough for the things i missed but i'm not sure if it's worth it if most everything stays the same. i mostly focused on inland empire and shivers (and volition because i was a fascist and needed morale) during my first playthrough, then adding other stuff as i needed it.
the worst part is that she convinced him to join the police force, then left after the police force changed him. this game has the most realistic depiction of women and their moronic manipulative behavior. frick them
>"You *told* me — you asked me to be this way." >"That was someone else. I betrayed her, overwrote her, and am happier for it."
Harry and Dora deserved each other
How should I go about saving in this game? I gave it a go a couple years back, and didn't want to save scum because it does seem like the devs did a good job of making failed skill checks as interesting as successful ones. However, on that playthrough I got to the part with the fat company man and the uncomfortable chair and lost a bunch of health way faster than I was expecting to. I died, got sent to the beginning of the game, and kinda lost motivation to play for awhile.
>Harry takes part in the shootout at the church >Gets bad vibes from the hole there >Flash forwards a few years to the Tequila Sunset binge >Goes back to the church >Somehow uses the hole to wipe his memories?
>finish the game >wonder where all commie shit Ganker spews comes from since there is barely anything in the game pushing you towards communism
And it's from his book in the same universe that i 100% nobody here read.
%3D
Someone's trying to... retro-fy the game so that it can be played in a gameboy
Not sure why anyone would want to do this, because he makes severe limitations on the emotions by literally restricting them into the main 4 of INT/PSY/FYS/MOT, but it exists if any of you autists still have a gameboy
why are so many of you obsessed with chicks you never dated or were cucked by? at least my dora i actually dated and regularly fricked before she tore my heart out lmao.
I love it but it's a lot of text, a lot of sleight of hand about your choices, effectively a point and click, and the murder is really only an excuse to be here.
If you're okay with that you'll probably enjoy it.
You know lads, I have a pretty good life by all metrics. I have a relationship, a job, I'm in decent physical health, I don't need or want for much and yet I fundamentally lack purpose.
I feel a gnawing, all-consuming terror at the very edges of my mind when I allow myself to think on it for any length of time, that despite everything I have I am deeply, deeply unsatisfied. I distract myself with petty, meaningless crap like sports and video games, or get drunk on a weekend to numb it, but inside I long for meaning. I think I have become conscious of the condition of the 21st century western man and I want to go back to blissful ignorance, but it's always there in the back of my mind nagging at me that I'm terminally purposeless.
Not to be a homosexual and try to one up you with how shit my life is vs yours but also to do exactly that: at least you have all the normal features of a human being. That terror is unbearable if you fricked up badly enough to become a NEET. It can always get worse.
>I don't need or want for much and yet I fundamentally lack purpose. >I feel a gnawing, all-consuming terror at the very edges of my mind when I allow myself to think on it
your purpose is to worship god, you aren't fulfilling that and therefore you feel empty. consider looking into the main world religions(there's like 5) unbiasedly and then the answer should be obvious. it's supposed to be built into you to a degree
Oh no, he's even worse than a communist, he's a christcuck. Why don't you bend over in front of your god and turn the other cheek, gaygeroni? Maybe he'll impregnate your wife again with another messiah.
You're a cuck and your religion worships a dead israelite nailed to a stick and your scripture is a bunch of self contradictory nonsense written by heat stricken psychoactive cacti abusing israelite desert shepherds. I'm not bitter, I'm mocking you for your idiotic beliefs.
>he's a christcuck.
i explicitly didn't say what's the true religion. I'll let him figure it out on his own and he should be able to, and if he wants to avoid the question entirely like you that's also up to him, everyone will end up where they're supposed to at the end this interaction won't change much beyond giving a few directions
It's pretty fricking obious you are one because only they and shitslamists prey on vulnerable people that feel like they are lacking something in life, like a fricking hobby, in order to induct them into their death cults.
>he's a christcuck.
i explicitly didn't say what's the true religion. I'll let him figure it out on his own and he should be able to, and if he wants to avoid the question entirely like you that's also up to him, everyone will end up where they're supposed to at the end this interaction won't change much beyond giving a few directions
Piss off with Christgayging. Religion is just as much a distraction from meaning as drugs or alcohol. What started as a cope mechanism that our ancestors go somewhere nice when they die and that doing a silly dance can make it rain turned into millennia of enforced control and suffering at the hands of the powerful, conning the entire race into doing absurd rituals asking for divine favours and still being expected to worship when their kids die of cancer or a tornado rips through their town.
No, I lack purpose that nature give us, hunting, gathering, protecting the family unit from threats. The false narrative that organized religion provides meaning is absolutely vile and you're not doing anyone any favours by feeding them delusions and exerting subtle control.
Oh look a seething redditor crashed the scene.
Now tell us then if you know so much, whats the answer to their problems?
Talk now and clear with no smug anachronisms to bullshit you made up to feel less insecure please
>Immediately brings up reddit in place of an actual argument
>Religion is just as much a distraction
not really, religion provides answers and you're supposed to discern between the right and wrong answers >still being expected to worship when their kids die of cancer or a tornado rips through their town.
life is a test, you aren't supposed to be having fun here, god states this clearly he will test you until your true colors come out. and in the end when you go to heaven then literally none of this pain will matter since you're in ever lasting bliss >No, I lack purpose that nature give us, hunting, gathering, protecting the family unit from threats.
if you believe that then just go to Africa and live in a jungle, wouldn't that fix your supposed problem ? >The false narrative that organized religion provides meaning
answers and meaning >and you're not doing anyone any favours by feeding them delusions and exerting subtle control.
suit your self. I'm not here to take you one way or the other, you asked a question and i gave you an answer why you refuse to give it a thought is beyond me but it is your choice and you are the one that will reap the results
>Dude you can like, figure it all out if you read this book that was written 2000 years ago by goatfrickers in the middle east :^)
>says the guy who was crying about his life having no meaning 30 minutes ago >still doesn't go to africa to live in a jungle
you're in denial, don't expect any of us to humour your contradictory behaviour
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Says religion brings his life meaning and whatever >Gets incredibly butthurt when someone points out that he's just getting controlled and coerced by people in a position of power to give him the illusion of meaning
11 months ago
Anonymous
You can be religious without shilling out to the church, you know. Fricking moron.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>>Says religion brings his life meaning and whatever
and I'm correct >>Gets incredibly butthurt
isn't the case >when someone points out that he's just getting controlled and coerced by people in a position of power to give him the illusion of meaning
how am i being controlled and coerced ? it's not like I'm taxed or jailed deciding to follow religion is my own choice and you'll have to prove the contrary if you aren't a liar >still doesn't move to an african jungle to fight for his life
of course you wouldn't. you aren't here for an answer you're here to waste your time and distract your self from your depressing reality, will have fun doing that on your own
>Religion is just as much a distraction
not really, religion provides answers and you're supposed to discern between the right and wrong answers >still being expected to worship when their kids die of cancer or a tornado rips through their town.
life is a test, you aren't supposed to be having fun here, god states this clearly he will test you until your true colors come out. and in the end when you go to heaven then literally none of this pain will matter since you're in ever lasting bliss >No, I lack purpose that nature give us, hunting, gathering, protecting the family unit from threats.
if you believe that then just go to Africa and live in a jungle, wouldn't that fix your supposed problem ? >The false narrative that organized religion provides meaning
answers and meaning >and you're not doing anyone any favours by feeding them delusions and exerting subtle control.
suit your self. I'm not here to take you one way or the other, you asked a question and i gave you an answer why you refuse to give it a thought is beyond me but it is your choice and you are the one that will reap the results
I didn't cry during my first time playing Disco until I decided to tune in to the OST one day and I realized I was bawling my eyes out by the end of it. God, the more I think about this game, the more I like it.
>The moral of our encounter is: I am a relatively median lifeform -- while it is you who are total, extreme madness. A volatile simian nervous system, ominously new to the planet. The pale, too, came with you. No one remembers it before you. The cnidarians do not, the radially symmetricals do not. There is an almost unanimous agreement between the birds and the plants that you are going to destroy us all.
I would often go there
To the tiny church there
The smallest church in Sussex
Though it once was larger
How the rill may rest there
Down through the mist there
Toward the Seven Sisters
Toward those white cliffs there
I would ofter stay there
In there tiny yard there
I have been so glad here
Looking forward to the past here
But now you are alone
None of this matters at all
>ChristBlack folk still absolutely fricking seething because their entire way of life has been outed a s psyop in front of their eyes and they can't bring themselves to accept it
They love threads like this because they can take advantage of vulnerable and helpless anons to shill their cult to. Disgusting really. See how they recoil and start making attacks as soon as they're rebuked for their behaviour?
It's just contrarianism and self righteous faux-rebellion. None of these people actually go to church. I guarantee they would've been Ricky Gervais watching atheists in 2010.
idk it's fun to talk to guys like this. it gives me a little sense of superiority but part of me wants to help bc i remember being that guy when I was a teenager.
I could have lost my virginity over a dozen times, but what sort of satisfaction would that give me? Anyone can lose their virginity. An infinitesmally miniscule number of people can do so but choose not to.
>This homie thinks he's something special
The demoralization really did a number on you huh
Alright then stop talking about it on the internet and let people live their happy, frivolous lives.
wow he's literally me
Which voice in your head is telling you this?
ancient lizard brain
Yes he is
wtf I've never seen the piggyback scene before where is that in the game
It's an idle animation
timestamp?
Idle animation, there's another idle animation after the Tribunal if you're with Cuno
the secret formula is good writing, don't tell anthony burch
He's enough of a blank slate for the player to make him their own, and surrounded by a number of different, well-written characters to help refine his personality through interactions
There's also the fact that he has an interesting character to explore from the past, which you can choose whether or not you want to lean into
I want to have sex with Harry.
I find it so funny that fanart of Kim always changes his face. They know that ingame he's BEYOND DISGUSTINGLY UGLY and they can't cope with that so they need to give him a jaw and make him less of a racist chinese caricature by making him look human.
They haven't done Harry's drink and depression ruined face justice either but I don't see you b***hing about that
Saying that normal east asians that aren't supermodels look disgustingly ugly and like caricatures is unironically racist
They are. Not my fault, i didn't make them that way. Maybe just deal with the fact they are deformed abominations instead of making fanart that makes him have a jaw?
If i were to draw a black character slightly whiter i would be doxxed and have my life ruined.
But you see a disgusting chink freak, you redraw him and redesign him so he's not vomit inducing and that's ok? No.
why did you post a thumbnail of gay porn? Why do I want to go look it up?
ok I just flashed this gay porn across my screen while my mom walked in. She said "goodnight I lo- and I closed out really quickly.
I said "what the FRICK" out loud and turned around with a scowl on my face and said "popups" ( I never curse around my mother so she knows this is serious and that I don't watch gay porn)
I am scared to talk to my mom
It's true though
>unironically racist
good, seethe more you ugly chinky bugman
I want to pummel your school into a bloody mess you fricking homosexual
Woah, calm down there pedo.
this is a non-homosexual site, go back
u mad?
Bare upper arms ruin this otherwise beautiful art.
Coach Physical Instrument thinks you're a f****t
holy sex
what is wrong with people. why do you want to have sex with every male protagonist. this one isn't even a cute twink like the anime games.
now swap the word male with female
homosexual x reddit game
Did you remove The Expression, Ganker?
Nah. it's for *the ladies*
After the Tribunal, yes.
But I shouldn't have because it was true to my Harry's character. Or should I say, Raphael Ambrosius Cousteau.
I did in my first playthrough. I won't in my next.
My first harry went from abusing every substance and being sad and sorry, to getting sober after talking to tiago. So I shaved and got rid of the expression. It seemed appropriate
>So I shaved and got rid of the expression
Even Kim objects to you shaving
Kim isn't my fricking supervisor.
I don't give a toss about his objections.
He is your goddamn half-brother and you will show him the proper respect
I tried to and failed
Reminder that Wasteland of Reality is based directly on the lead dev's own recovery from alcoholism
He's a broken and defeated addict and debauchee, but just barely avoids crossing the line into a detestable animal who hurts others. Still flawed realistically, but they avoided making him an actual piece of shit instead of just pitiful.
The pitifulness and the amnesia are both played straight successfully, despite being often cliche in this day and age, which was impressive. I honestly rolled my eyes a bit when I first saw the amnesia bit, but the writing just fully embraces it, and it works. They never even give a definite explanation or fix.
The concept of someone coping with personal, local, and societal failures by viewing everything though a shallow and simple political lens is interesting and relatable. Just spewing nonsense political drivel to cope instead of facing truth and real answers. I suppose
>They never even give a definite explanation
"You don't have amnesia. You're insane."
>"You don't have amnesia. You're insane."
> Definite
Yes, it is. It's pretty clear throughout the game he doesn't have amnesia, Joyce just puts the idea to rest. If you really want more than Trant Hidelstam will give his own, much more verbose verdict on the topic but it still boils down to "he's insane".
trant is repeating commie anti-psychiatry ideas that reject the idea that there is such a thing as "insanity"
Isn't the guy also literally saying that you were so poor you lost your memory?
exactly, the idea is that insanity is a rational response to the horrors of capitalism
Trant outright says being a cop in the shittiest part of town ruined Harry, which is exactly what happened.
>Kim, I lied. About not remembering who I am. I made it up... I remember everything.
>I can't forget it. Even when I drank so much...
I don’t want to be this kind of animal anymore.
God, some of the lines in this game have just stuck with me like nothing else.
>Who killed you;
>Communism
>Who were you;
>A killer. A motherfricker and a killer.
>True love is only possible in the next world, for new people. It's too late for us.
>The mask of humanity falls from capital.
>Tell me more about Kras Mazov!
>He killed himself.
>4.6 billion people and you failed every single one of them.
>This is my head. These are my thoughts.
>b***h bird deserved it.
No, no. It was "b***h bird had it coming."
It's probably the most quotable game of all time tbh
>This is somewhere to be. This is all you have, but it's still something. Streets and sodium lights. The sky, the world. You're still alive.
>I don't want to get better - I want to get worse.
>In the dark times, should the stars also go out?
>TIME TO GO TO WORK IN THE SHIT FACTORYYYYY
>Kim *truly* trusts you.
And of course
>I’m once again reminded of how Contact Mike rose from the slums of Saint-Batiste to the top of the boxing world, overcoming adversity and serious brain trauma. Nothing is coming - nothing he wouldn’t knock out in three rounds. The real fight is for the right attitude.
the contact mike bit came out of no where and it's fricking ridiculous how they've carried that meme throughout the game without making it cringe
>if you tell her "about three days, maybe" it will be etched in her mind forever
Then you know.
What?
That the bourgeois are not human.
funny how despite DE being a "commie game" the only actual communist is objectively the most pathetic character in the game
The best critics of communism are generally different kinds of communists.
he was the best va performance by far
he's close but ancient reptilian/limbic system/hanged man was the best
>four point six billion people, and you failed every one of them. you really FRICKED UP, harry
JFC this picture is amazing
there are better renditions
I don't have them but I know they exist
specifically of the pointing soys though
>No. This is somewhere to be. This is all you have, but it's still something. Streets and sodium lights. The sky, the world. You're still alive.
>Seems like the point of this game is *victory*. The absence of defeat on all fronts. Victory in business ventures and creative undertakings. Victory in love and over other people. Political victory. Ideological victory. Hell, even sexual victory. Definitely a lot of object-based victories, too -- having things and not losing them. One problem, though: not a lot of victors in sight. Everyone’s mostly losing. Why is that? And how do you *not* lose?
>How *not* to lose? It is impossible not to. The world is balanced on the edge of a knife. It’s a game of frayed nerves. You’re pushed on by numbers and punitive measures: pain, rejection, and unpaid bills. You can either play or you can crawl under a boat and waste away -- turn into salt or a flock of seagulls. Your enemies would *love* that. Or you can fight. The only way to load the dice is to keep on fighting.
>It'll be depressing. And it'll be boring. Don't expect any further rewards or handclaps; this is how normal people are all of the time.
I can't remember the exact line because it's been a few years since I've played through it, but the line in the dream about offering the dice to fix things hurt
>was there something else you wanted to take from us?
>i dont hate women but they belong in the kitchen
rene was based
i don't have a better pic
he stuck his head in the church's pale hole
He did no such fricking thing
harriers head goes through the (square) pale hole. say ghoodbye to your memories, knucklehead.
It was honestly my first impression once having finished the game.
>there's a Weird Thing!
>the main character HAS to be connected to it somehow!
In Harry's case it’s not outrageous to assume his alleged amnesia and supranatural connection with the skills are the direct result of shoving his head into the Pale hole, especially with all the evidence surrounding what happened the night before the game starts.
The only one of his skills that's not just "He's Fricking Crazy" is maybe Shivers. Even EDC having you see what everyone else is up to is more a storytelling thing and not necessarily Harry having psychic visions or whatever. His amnesia is likely just a trauma response due to a combo of substances and nearly drowning when he wrecked his MC (and also probably an attempt to hang himself with the tie). He'd probably eventually regain most if not all of his memory. The Pale is an interesting concept but I don't think it had anything to do with loosing his memory since the Pale is basically made of memories.
>The only one of his skills that's not just "He's Fricking Crazy" is maybe Shivers. Even EDC having you see what everyone else is up to is more a storytelling thing and not necessarily Harry having psychic visions or whatever.
shivers being real is canon since revachol getting nuked is confirmed by the book, so it's not crazy to assume that EDC is psychic too
>The Pale is an interesting concept but I don't think it had anything to do with loosing his memory since the Pale is basically made of memories.
the pale is made up of memories people have lost, which is why prolonged exposure fricks you up - you lose your own memories and have them replaced by the memories of random dead people. assuming harry did stick his head in the hole he'd be a special case since the hole isn't full-on pale, it's a precursor that will eventually become pale
I mean I do subscribe to the theory that the hole had something to do with it but Cleaning Out The Rooms and some of the dialogue options make it seem more like it's not actual amnesia just. Blocking stuff out. As for EDC I think one of the devs confirmed that it's just storytelling stuff but take that with a grain of salt. Same as with all the Pale info we have being mostly just concept stuff that isn't actually in the game or the novel. It's a vague and nebulous thing on purpose most likely. Or they're hacks who didn't think it thru. Still really cool to think about tho
yeah i like the ambiguity of it all, it's up to (You) to decide how much of the supernatural shit is real and how much is just harry being schizo. there's this concept art that explains the pale, it's questionably canon (although dolores getting assassinated by a guy screaming WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FIGURE THIS OUT OURSELVES definitely implies it's canon) but if it's true harry is presumably a magpie
>You once jerked off in the locker room and were caught.
gets a lot creepier after the gym teacher reveal
Shivers and IE are a least a little supranatural. It can't all be insight and gut feelings, right?
Honestly I think IE isn't but Shivers is mostly just based on the fact Shivers has a different voice but IE doesn't. IE is mostly delusion as well while Shivers isn't (debatable). I take both every time because of how interesting they are.
shivers is 100% supernatural because the book confirms that revachol gets nuked which is what la revacholiere warns you about
IE might be supernatural but i can't think of any instances where it tells you something harry couldn't have figured out himself so i think it's more schizo gut feeling
revachol gets nuked?
>questionably canon
Noid figured it out.
But what if some innocence will yoink the tech to combat the pale, huh? Noid-fricker.
pre release descriptions of the skills by the devs confirmed that shivers is supernatural and esprit de corps isn't
Shivers is the only one that provides Harry with knowledge he shouldn't know, like the coat hidden in the pipe under the FELD building. Espirit de corps could just be Harry imagining what his squad is doing at that time
The cleaning out the rooms thought soft-confirms that the memory loss is something pale related.
>I honestly rolled my eyes a bit when I first saw the amnesia bit
Not gonna lie, I almost got filtered by that. But I already bought the game so I figured I'd give it a chance. Thankful that I did, I ended up really liking it
This. He's a fricking mess but written well enough to be on the right side of relatable and to still have some sort of hope. You find yourself rooting for him despite the situation he's put himself in.
the writer took inspiration from his own experience as a depressed alcoholic
There really should have been gambling mechanics in game. poor harry pawning all his clothes to pull the slot machine a couple more times.
>Joyce gives a rundown on the history of Revachol
>"The communists were all infected by a brain virus that made them revolt"
>"Thats the only reason. <3"
That's the history of Graad, sperg
That's not how I remember it, at least once she's fully honest. Like eventually she declares that she herself sympathizes with the revolutionary spirit but its like her job is all she has left amidst the Pale.
don't you have a phone call to make?
I like pain and burning light and wanting things from people who don't want to give them to me.
>[Volition - Impossible]: Hang up the phone.
i quit the game after this phone call. the VA did an amazing job. it sounded like genuine emotional agony. ill never know how the game ends but in my playthrough i just assume he an heroed after this
The phone call is one of the most cringe-inducing parts of the game (in a good way). Gotta make sure I do it on every run
>CALLING
>CALLING
>CALLING
>STILL CALLING
>MORALE DAMAGED -1
why are the guns so strange in this world? why does kim use such an impractical 1 shot pistol?
because using automatic weapons isn't very moral of you
>why does kim use such an impractical 1 shot pistol?
The Moralintern supplies the RCM, and they don't want to give them actual effective weapons for fear of an uprising if the RCM remembers their ICM roots.
The mercenaries are geared with actual modern weaponry, the RCM gets scraps because they're only ever supposed to need them to shoot a couple of guys, maybe, not get into a firefight with armored kill-squads.
After opening the secret compartment on harry's clipboard I dedicated a lot of my run to trying to figure out who exactly dora was and seeing if I could fix the unknown problem between harry and her.
This scene fricked me up in many ways.
Best part of the game, I cried
>le Ganker when snoy makes a movie game: 🙁
>le Ganker when commie homosexuals make a shitty movie game (it has epic smirking man and chink homosexual): :DDDD
its not Ganker its redditor newbies
it's a book game thoughever
>commie
Ultraliberal*
>Kim earns less than Harry
>Kim has an expensive hobby
>Kim sees a normal man
>Harry has put himself into abject poverty with the power of drinking to forget
I thought the consensus around Gankerirgin memesters was that Dusco Elysium was cringe and Reddit.
It's the /misc/ subsection trying to force their view, but the game is too good.
rent free
That's entirely down to their giving special thanks to Marx whilst recieving their game award years ago. This happened sufficiently long ago that most people have either forgotten or have got bored of sperging so most discussions are in good faith now.
>game consistently shit on every ideology because Harry is a frickup who uses it to cope
>people still think its a commie game
>people still think its a commie game
>be mildly critical of communism
>say everyone is just as bad if not worse
>say it is a kino centrist game
It is the same thing with the bear sex in BG3. The problem is that everyone else couldn't get away with doing these things or much less.
to be fair, the writing leads and lots of other people that worked on the game are all communists and the game was huge in far-left circles. not far off for people to assume.
I've never played it and probably never will but the fanart and memes are great
play it homosexual
you can pirate it and feel morally correct
Nah, my backlog is big enought, if I wanted a point and click, I'd play Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, won't bother with DE just because pic related tickle my pickle
I'm glad the thought cabinets were made before the AI craze
Kuno ending was kino
reddit game. reddit thread
>tfw no astolfo partner
>the cop dice
Magnetic Superstar dice or bust
>1 health > 1 volition
that's about right for a shitposting coomer
>picks option 5
“Tell me, where are your friends? Human beings have friends, Harry-boy. Where the hell are yours?”
Where we're gonna go we'll need allies. Not friends.
I originally saw the Revacholian sun crest behind Harry's head as some sort of weird sideways-worn taco hat
I kinda wish all ideologies got a unique background, it's what I expected when I saw this before playing, but I guess just all fascists get it. I wonder what's the reasoning
The fascist path is the most boring, while still being fairly difficult since the thoughts are difficult to handle.
It deals with a bitter but yet still hopeful solution. In a world where higher values are worthless, maybe the best you can do as a fascist, is to portray those revacholian values despite the odds.
While the other political values deal mostly with worldly affairs, the fascist path deals with your inner self.
>fascist quest reveals that measurehead is actually one of the most reasonable insightful characters outside of the race theory shit
whole questline is worth it just for the convo with him tbh
>Semen Retention Society
Where can I sign up?
I just realized the implication with that pic is that he's the head of an icebreaker moving through Revachol's seas
You did get this beautiful expression in your playthrough right Ganker ??
I can get it all back.
>actually teared up a little when I heard it the first time
>could feel my chest getting tighter from the sadness
that consequence was a gut punch, all his dreams were now that I think about it
He just feels like a real person. It's rare to come across protags in video games that don't feel like they were slotted in as the plot device you play as these days. It's also pretty amazing how he just kinda naturally conforms himself around your own beliefs depending on which dialogue options you pick and relationships to other characters in the game and all that.
Two things that should be in every RPG that most RPGs don't have at all.
>just kinda naturally conforms himself around your own beliefs
I wouldn't call it 'conforming' when he's spouting nonsense as a cope for his wife leaving him, to the point nobody ever calls him out on switching positions drastically even in the same conversation.
>expecting vee of all places to successfully critique a game that already had a masterful writing
You would have to roll 20 on d20 4 times consecutively
>dies to an old lady refusing to give him some change for cigarettes
not a video game its an interactive book
You could even say it's like... a video where you game
Reminder that one of the most rational level-headed and likable characters in the game (Lilienne) is a fascist revolutionary
>Reveres the sun as if it were a deity (reminiscent of traditionalist pagan beliefs commonly associated with esoteric right-wing values, is also used to portray monarchists/fascists in the DE universe (Gary the Cryptofascist has a flag on his wall with the old Revacholian suzerainty's logo, which is a sun, and your own portrait adds a sun-like insignia in a Fascist run as well), likely connected to the black sun)
>names her skiff "The Sun"
>wields a sword (like the in-game royalists) (also like Mussolini)
>Shivers explicitly says she owns a pair of cavalry boots
>her own daughter calls her a revolutionary (and yes, the definition of "revolutionary" used in DE also includes fascism, Call Me Manana calls you one if you choose fascist-leaning dialogue options)
>she's a no-nonsense working class citizen who's skeptical of the union, critical of the drunks around her, and infuriated with the delinquents and criminals in revachol
>titus says that the fishing village staunchly refuses to unionize, likely at the behest of Lilienne and the washerwoman
>Lilienne's daughter hums the overworld theme, which was a tune used by the Revacholian royalist forces
>successfully going on a date with her doesn't lead to her practically opening her legs for you, instead she sets boundaries and thanks you while considering a second bout later down the line to see if you can stick with your sobriety and piece your life back together
>esteems her family above all else
>immensely cooperative with the police, even with the knowledge of harry's recklessness and endangerment of multiple people, including and especially himself
>whereas the washerwoman calls the RCM a bad omen, Lilienne has splash dialogue that says she is relieved to see the RCM
and she's cute too
If you really believed this, and thought it was true, you wouldn't need to spam it in every thread
I gotta let the people know
>Lilienne
>fascist
You are severely mentally ill.
Feel free to refute me, I'll wait.
Lillienne is rather apolitical.
Feel free to refute me, I'll wait.
She is described as a revolutionary. She is inherently politically-charged.
Bro revolutionary doesn't mean "anyone who fought on either side of a revolution." It's the people doing the fricking revolution. This isn't even semantics, this is esl-level shit
>Bro revolutionary doesn't mean "anyone who fought on either side of a revolution."
I never said it is.
>It's the people doing the fricking revolution
Therefore, she is politically charged, no?
She's not the one responsible for instigating the revolution. So no, she isn't.
Gee, I suppose Rene and Measurehead and Joyce and Sunday Friend are entirely apolitical too. Fricking moron.
Her being "politically charged" is a huge leap in mental gymnastics, let alone her being a fricking revolutionary. She's clearly an uneducated simpleton and she only wields the sword because no one else around her is capable of doing anything remotely close to standing their ground should it become necessary. The other characters you mentioned are very obviously politically charged-- they talk about it completely openly. Lillienne doesn't do that at all, not a single time. She's just a tired, broken widow with too many responsibilities and very little help. That's all.
She is described as a revolutionary. Every bit of dialogue and text serves a purpose. There are no mistakes. Lilienne, unlike the rest of those knuckledraggers, is a realist, and puts her real-life situation before her political standing, but that doesn't invalidate the latter. She also talks about her beliefs and alludes to her values when you talk to her, and especially during the date, but it's got a lacquer of nuance to it you won't find throughout the majority of the rest of the game. That's why she's the best written character in DE.
>broken widow
Hardly broken, she's the strongest and most resolute person in Revachol.
Admittedly, maybe I was a bit too hasty to describe her as "broken." You are correct in that, despite the trauma she has been through, she has not succumbed to degeneracy and given up on her responsibilities as a parent or as a member of her community. Nor has she begun to irrationally despise men as most people in her situation likely would.
When exactly is Lillienne described as a revolutionary? And when exactly does this "lacquer of nuance" you describe shine through her values? Her fascination with the sun sounds like something any resolute person without a formal education would believe. It hardly gives off the impression that she is instigating a cultural revolution.
Her daughter calls her a revolutionary (a term she has heard so often in relation to her mother that she has now associated the two and goes so far as to introduce strangers to her mother through that classification). The lacquer of nuance I referred to is in the manner in which she only cursorily and secondarily gives rise to her views and leanings, she never outright and brazenly says something like "Long live the monarchy" but she very clearly wants to set an example not only for her children but for the rest of the village, too, seeing as how she's one of the last remaining residents with any grit and integrity. That fascination with the sun also corresponds to the insignia that is commonly associated with in-universe fascism, which centers around symbolic use of the sun as well. She wears military boots from the monarchic era, wields a sword, engages in physical labor, and is a naturalist. If that's not traditionalist at the very least, I don't know what is. Pair that with the aforementioned fascination with the sun, a notable fascist symbol in the disco elysium universe, and there's little room to doubt that Lilienne is, at least covertly, a fascist.
>Subdue the regret. Dust yourself off, proceed. You'll get it in the next life, where you don't make mistakes. Do what you can with this one, while you're alive.
volition is the ultimate bro
the best moment in the game imo
Volition being such a bro throughout the game makes it hit so much harder when he breaks down in the dream
>I can't help you. I am totally useless. Everything I've said is lies. I want the exact same bad things you want. To stand here, like a pillar of salt, saying...
I unironically cried
>Volition failed a Volition check
>volition is the ultimate bro
if he's such a bro how come he never helps me irl ?
he's trying, anon, but he's just a voice in your head - you have to make the choice to listen to him instead of all the voices telling you it's hopeless
wew, hits hard
When will there be a video game make me feel as much as DE?
>want to buy the collector's edition for the physical art book
>iam8bit keeps cancelling my order for no reason
I fricking hate that homosexual website.
Whats the best political faction and why is it Fascism?
Moralism
ok klaus schwab
You vill eat ze phasmid
wtf you can't just be happy and normal and win all the time
The world dies on their watch so none of that is true
Frick Liberal Moralists.
Be a communard so you can change reality with your mind
I'm a socialist and I tried to play Harry that way.
Also a superstar cop.
who was your dora?
I never even had one.
Her name was Jenna.
never had one and harry makes me think i'm better off alone
She doesn't even think she's a woman anymore. Farewell to the person formerly known as K. Yes, the dream sequence and the phone call fricked me up.
I got over one, but now I'm on the second one. Online dating apps helped boost my ego briefly, but I still can't get over it.
>they give harry shit for his thing lasting 6 years
>tfw mine has lasted even longer
Ugh same man, finally got over her after finally meeting another person who made me feel the same way if not better. And now can't get over her.
A love of 4 years, ruined by her cheating on me, took too many years to let it go.
It made me bitter about love for too long.
same here bro..
Think fondly and sadly how stupid and naive i was..Broke me so bad i am still an alcoholic..
Sad thing is ..that i dont think she loved me..just needed someone to love her more than anything..And i did..
Nobody. I'm likely someone's Dora, but I don't care. I'm a heterosexual guy, fyi.
To further clarify, it's my autistic abstinence and insistence on being left alone that does this. I'm very tired of women that think they can 'save me' when I don't need it. I've got better shit to do.
This chick I knew since highschool. Dated for 2 years and then she cheated on me. Took me 6 years to get over it.
Seeing Harry also struggle to get over his ex after all those years made me feel for him. His pain was my pain.
There was one crazy b***h I met in fricking alcoholics anonymous (when I say crazy b***h, I mean that literally) who I ended up getting a painfully strong crush on. She was the perfect mix of terrible c**t and genuinely caring. As sweet as she could be, I knew ever getting together with her would be a death sentence for both of us. Never told her how I felt and ghosted her, because I needed to.
Man, I didn't even really like her. We "dated" for whatever constituted for that in high school. I'm an evil, selfish bastard who had her as a gf while I was too wretched and pathetic to speak to the girl I really liked. Then she left me for another guy the moment college hit and for some reason then it kills me. Doesn't end there, we still talk, says we'll get back together, just gives me a failure complex and a belief that if I ever got with anyone they'd just fine someone better later on. She leads me on while she moves on with her life, girl I like and every girl I subsequently like fades off the radar because I'm so psychologically self-deprecating. Should never have gotten with that girl. It wasn't healthy and it deformed me. I'm seriously lonely and I can't talk to anyone about it. All I can do is scream into the abyss, at best hoping for a (You) and being called a f****t.
Talking to people about these things isn't a *bad* idea, but I've found that, more often than not, they will react about as predictably as you can imagine. I tried telling a couple of my closest friends about my "Dora" situation, and that's precisely how they responded-- pointing out the obvious fact that what I was telling them was fricking insane and that I should seriously consider letting it go. It was certainly embarrassing but it also put the reality of my obsessive insanity into perspective, almost like it was finally given a real form that I could identify and rationalize rather than having to continue perceiving it as a chaotic nebula of uncertainty.
I've still got the chick in the back of my mind and I do recognize that what I want is probably harmful, but believing that I might someday be able to make it work is incredibly comforting. I don't have anything as comforting as that anymore.
I don't want to talk about it.
Irene
its been 5 years now
progressed past all the stages of loss, and I still think about her
and I will still think about her on my death bed
I just hope she thinks back about me fondly at least once
kill her
calm down Half-Light
It's the only way to get your pride back
it's in her heart now, cut it out
LOGIC [Easy: Failure] - This line of thought makes perfect sense, actually. Pride is stored in the heart. She figuratively broke your heart to steal your pride. Now you must literally break hers to get back your stolen pride.
Amirah. It was stupid, we were in high school, and we had to sneak around because her parents wouldn't let her date outside her race, but I honestly saw myself marrying her when we somehow kept it going into college. Then she dumps me via text after I traveled 200-miles round trip just to see her. Couldn't even tell me to my face when I was there.
>200 miles round trip
Brother
I just traveled 2500 round trip just to see the twin of an Amirah
Still holding a torch for her, in a way
But Disco teaches us that when we deify others, we're not engaging with the real them anymore. The person in our memories and minds is not human
Never had one. And tbh, I never want one. If a woman holds so much power over your life that if she leaves you're a hollowed-out, shell of a man- something's wrong on your end, chief
frick you for that question anon
Her name was Kira and she fricked me up mentally to the point that she lives rent-free in my head over a year later. I can still hear her voice
Felicia.
4 year relationship, she was cheating on me for 2 and a half of those. I was in denial for most of it, and a literal cuck for the last 10 months.
One day she 'swapped faces' right in front of me, and I broke. Called my stepdad to get me the frick out of there, lost everything we'd earned together.
It's been 17 years.
I have not recovered.
I will not recover.
Don't become like me, please, Ganker.
Lmao, I'm a decade younger than Harry and I still think I'm too old to kill myself over some pussy. Women are overrated. Still necessary, but overrated.
I was madly in love with her but didn't say anything, then she asked me to go see a movie with her, we continued going to movies together for several months until she met another guy and that was that. Didn't ever tell me she was interested or whatever. Never even got to hold her hand.
My first girlfriend from over a decade back, we dated for years before I found out she was cucking me. She said I deserved it then moved in with a friend of mine she'd been sleeping with. I spent a long time as an alcoholic after that until I tried to kill myself.
I've been clean 6 years now and got married this year to an amazing wife. The phonecall scene with Dora stuck with me though, the jealousy and hopelessness was spot on.
I never fell in love. Not even a school crush.
I’ve never been in love. I’ve had minor crushes and dated plenty of people, but it never clicked in my brain.
>im-fricking-plying
Wizardhood here I come.
Christine.
Dated her from 19 to 24 and she dumped me. I'm now 35, married and I still think about her every single god dam day.
She was the sweetest most beautiful Lebanese girl I've ever met and I'll never get over her.
>Lebanese
They are wretched scum, believe me. I'm one of them. The worst backwards species of wienerroach there is.
Julia
we weren't even together, she had a boyfriend and we grew closer spending a lot of time together, commuting, studying over the course of a school year. my dumbass ofc caught feelings
told her my feelings and she cut me off entirely, just took my heart and stomped it mercilessly via text and acted as the offended party as if I wasn't the one making all the little sacrifices over the year to support her and was now discarded because I was inconvenient.
it doesn't hurt anymore, did for years, but my current work is close to her home, and I'd lie if I said I didn't hope to see her at some point just to call her the immature exploitative prostitute she is.
on the other hand I was still in full grief from this shitshow when I played disco elysium so Harry was full on kino to me, perfect synchronicity
There's this one chick who I drank with through high school. The only person ever to understand me, and vice versa. Neither of us drink anymore otherwise, but we see each other once a year and go on a multi-day bender.
Everyone who replied to this post should get a fricking grip and stop feeling sorry for themselves. People are as fallible as your own dispositions and opinions make them out to be.
Eh, I'm just nostalgic every now and then. I'm too old now to have the all-eroding, mutually self destructive love that was back then.
Love doesn't exist past childhood.
Past teens, but yeah, that's why I'm nostalgic
>teens
No, that's when love truly dies. Subsumed into carnal desires and egocentrism. Teenagers are fickle and capricious, and love is wasted on them. They could not ever possibly experience love--it is biologically and psychologically impossible.
Sounds like you missed out, man.
I had multiple girls show interest in me, I turned them all down. I was never naive enough to fall for the grift that is another person's narcissistic longing for validation. I'm too good for these people.
My God get over it you weepy homosexual
It's not really about the multiple girls, most are basic enough not to give a shit about. It's about those who are actually good enough. If you never met one, you missed out, and now it's too late.
>it's about those who are actually good enough
Doesn't exist. The only people worthy of respect are people you shouldn't ever burden with your own desperate groping for validation.
If your "love" brought you to this, then it's not love.
Hey I'm doing okay man lmao stop projecting, like I said I've been in love since and I probably miss her more. I'm happy just waiting for the next time.
Love cannot be as fragile as that. It wasn't love then, and whatever escapades you've gone on since then weren't fueled by love either. You don't miss her, you miss the way she made you feel.
I mean, yeah you're probably right regarding your last sentence. But if that the case meh, I'll just keep chasing that feeling. It's fun, it's worth the heartache. Its worth saying I've only felt that way twice out of the 5 people I've dated.
Thing is, if you think it's about validation, you don't have the faintest idea of what it is.
This is actually true anon, I know. It's easy to find validation. There is a key difference between being in a relationship because you love the person vs you being in a relationship that's good enough bc of the validation. I've been in both.
It's an obsession with a faint conception of the image you drape the other person around in and desperately wish was true. Your "love" is finding out that that person aligns with the thing you want them to be. Your "loss" is the inverse.
Keep setting yourself up for failure and misery, you don't deserve to inherit the world around you.
Anon, I have no preconceived notions about saving the world I just wanna grill and write.
>saving the world
Living in the world, anon. Im saying your head's in the clouds. Get back to Earth.
And what be dour and depressed like you? I am living in the world, anon. Becoming an extrovert and trying to connect with others is the best decision I have ever made. (I still like being mean to people on the internet though). It is you who has their head buried in the sand.
also >I am living in the world
A pleasure-seeking validation-seeking materialist does not a living entity make.
I mean, I think if you can recognise your behavior it's okay. I don't engage with anything beyond my means and still am focused on my ascetic principles. I just like connections and human beings. We are social creatures, after all.
>We are social creatures
Nothing irritates me more than this meaningless platitude. How would you know this? By socializing? Would the anti-socialites ever speak for themselves? What a stupid idea.
No, because it's a helpful survival technique inherited by our hunter gather ancestors midwit.
The reason you feel as you do is because of increased alienation due to technological progress taking over our natural evolution.
Wrong again. You missed out, man, and will never understand what it is.
I have no delusions about any of this. I know, and have always known, how shallow all of this is. Time and time again I get proven right.
Integrity and excellence. I love myself above all, and I'm happy knowing I'm doing great and everyone keeps desperately groping at me. Nobody in the world deserves someone as good as me.
You can't be proven right if you have never been there. All you're doing is coping.
>You can't be proven right about shooting yourself in the foot being stupid unless you've shot yourself in the foot
Compelling argument!
I haven't been making any other arguments. You missed out, and are incapable of understanding what it is. Not finding anyone to love does not make you enlightened on the subject.
Me not finding anyone worthy of loving is not my fault. It's theirs for not being good enough. The fact that I have to explain this to you shows me just how deluded you are. Seeing as how you can't contend with any of the points I've been making and are settling for moronic gripes "you didn't get swindled like I did!" tells me all I need to know. Sounds like you're the one coping, as if you've learned anything from these disasters. Get real.
"Good enough?" Anon, tell me, what do you value in others?
Of course it's not your fault, it's an unfortunate fact of your life.
You have missed out you know anon. I felt like you once. When I was 17.
Except you didn't have nearly enough of a backbone. There's a difference between being self-absorbed and dignified, and that's putting your money where your mouth is. You just don't measure up, chump. And that's why you need external validation.
Beauty, intelligence, excellence, integrity (not becoming something they're not for the sake of anyone else), non-consumerism, dignity, clarity, the ability to not need justifications for their lives by proxy.
Still not an argument.
Samegay
>Mass replying like a genuine bonafide Black personhomosexual
Seethe
There's nothing to argue. All the points you have made just go to show that you don't understand what you're talking about. If you had experienced it, there could be a discussion to be had, but until then it's going to be this back-and-forth with your, frankly, childish notions of what you imagine love to be.
Like I said, you don't have to have a nice day in the foot to know shooting yourself in the foot is a fricking stupid idea. You still haven't been able to argue against that point. You will never, ever learn. 5 times and you still haven't learned your lesson. What's worse, 3 of those times, you've actually been an actively evil self-aggrandizing force leeching off of these girls.
Yeah, because the point is false, and nothing you feel will make it true. Also, you seem have me confused with another, or multiple other anons.
>Beauty, intelligence, excellence, integrity (not becoming something they're not for the sake of anyone else), non-consumerism, dignity, clarity, the ability to not need justifications for their lives by proxy.
I'm sorry you haven't met someone like that anon, but do you actually try or are you waiting for it to be handed to you. The two women I've been in love with (out of the plethora I've dated) were exactly like that. One was a die hard communist (a real one, not preformative) and the other was a die hard unionist who cared so much for the common man it was infectious. Things happen, I broke up with both of these women because of circumstances out of our control and my own issues.
Anon you need to do something. It will happen.
>communist and unionist
I said intelligent, not deluded. Fighting for "le working class" is about as stupid of a venture as I can imagine. Naive moralizing garbage. The fact that you value these women shows just how moronic you are.
>but do you actually try or are you waiting for it to be handed to you
Yes, I've had women come after me, and I put myself in situations where I would be able to find someone like that, and nobody meets my standards. I won't adjust them for the sake of some nonsensical self-validation, just to say "I did it" or "I lived through it" for the sake of it. Drivel. Frivolous garbage to me. I'd rather die alone than settle for less.
>This homie thinks he's something special
Alright then stop talking about it on the internet and let people live their happy, frivolous lives.
Nice post andrew tate now frick off
Don't you dare conflate me with that sexist materialist swine.
Don't you think I'm trying, you prolapsed butthole?
Frick you and your mother
There is no *trying* to get over it. Either you do, or you don't. It's a fact to regard, not a riddle. It's very straightforward. There's nothing to figure out.
I've been in love since then, but from 18-20 I experienced a total love and infatuation that I can never replace.
I remember once we were playing a board game in our modest little flat, on our modest little mattress. (Our bed broke and we hadn't replaced it yet). It was diplomacy. Things got a little heated but it stopped when she looked me dead in the eyes, started crying and told me she loved me. She smiled like I'd never seen anyone smile before. I think about it all the time. God I miss her.
Meaningless drivel. Look how all that turned out. It's absolutely nothing. Self-aggrandizing nonsense. She was happy for herself. Wake up.
I'm just saying it was definitely love.
The girl I'm currently dating. She wants to be my wife and have children with me. If it falls apart I'll think about her for the rest of my life.
>If
It's a matter of when, bröther
She was way too hot for me and the coolest person I ever met. It was only natural that I frick it all up.
I miss you, Kaitlyn.
Jasmin
5 years down the drain because she decided she wanted an open relationship without telling me
Her name was Elma. We had a very brief thing and we're still friends today but after several relationships I still care about her so much that even if I hold something against her it all melts away when I see her. She is the most energetic person I've ever seen, sort of an anthithesis to my own behavior and she is incredibly kind to those that deserve it.
Although her breaking my heart five years ago hurts like a motherfricker, and she does not want to give me another try. It hurts so fricking bad.
>she is incredibly kind to those that deserve it
>although her breaking my heart...
Sounds like she's not as saintly as you make her out to be. "Nice and kind" people are the most despicable sorts of people.
Well my heart breaking was due to her simply not wanting to date me. I idolized her at the time (maybe in a sense I still do) and her saying no to us being together just kinda demolished me. To this day I still say that she's the only girl that ever made me cry.
However I cannot fault her for it, nor would I force her. So it's got nothing to do with her kindness.
A troony prostitute. Not even kidding. Instill love her and that she let me live 20 years of hentai-induced kinks
Her name started with a K. She was my first love and I fricked it up big time by being a drunkard 4 or 5 years ago. 2 days ago I spotted her serving drinks at an event I was partying on and I recognized her face, she must have recognized mine because when I looked again she had a face of disgust. I then awkwardly stumbled out of the event and told my friends to take me to the nearest liquor store, then all I remember after that is waking up with the worst hangover I've had in years, at least my belongings were safe.
It's been 10 years and I can't get over it.
Mine was a girl named Ava, we dated for 3 years and "broke up" that October. It was never official, the last thing she had said to me was "I love you, I'll see you tomorrow" and I never saw her again.
One of my friends had encouraged her to cheat on me a month before our 3rd year anniversary and he didn't tell me about what was happening until well after she had left. I have not been the same since and I know my friends in some way actively mourn who I used to be, even if they would never admit it.
>lesbian relationship btw
The problem with this game, IMO, is once you have played it once, it's not really worth it to play again and actually experience the different dialog and personality
I still think he drank himself to total retrograde amnesia
It's not amnesia and it's not the hole in the Church
what is it then
Something not connected to losing memories because he hasn't lost any of his memories
Perhaps
The Seolites are coming to steal our memories!
it's a song and it's so fricking good.
>Lifes
thoughever
not a video game
For me it's White Mourning
Rigorous Self-Critique
>And above all, you let life defeat you. All the gifts your parents gave you, all the love and patience of your friends, you drowned in a neurotoxin. You let misery win. And it will keep on winning till you die -- or overcome it.
Little guy gets further and further away.
I hope you got Harry some help
>Who doesn't toy with the thought of suicide sometimes? Or, like, most of the time? Okay, maybe some people don't – like the happy scientist girl named Marie, or Jean-Marc, the superstar whom everyone loves. But you -- when the going gets rough, it's nice to think about your little trap door out of here. Do it. Put your finger on the eject button, see how alive it makes you feel -- the freedom of finality. Think of how much they'll *miss* you.
Unironically the best depiction of suicidal thoughts I've ever read. The way it starts out as over-the-top maudlin self-pity but turns into emotionless pragmatic planning the second Harry actually decides to do it is so fricking accurate you can tell Kurvitz has actually gone through it
I don't think I could ever actually do it, but buying a gun did make me feel less "trapped" in a sense, which is one of the worst parts of feeling bad. I can endure when given some length of time, but I can't endure forever. I can work with even just one option, but not zero
Thinking about how someone is going to *miss* you is homosexual shit, the apex is treating suicide as a permanent exit from permanent suffering.
>it's nice to think about your little trap door out of here
This thought is too relatable. That said, everyone feels that sometimes r..right?
>that scene when harry is looking through his clipboard and finds two zoo tickets
>"Two octopuses are smiling, reaching their tentacles toward each other in the coloured pencil drawings. The tickets permit access to a zoo in Revachol East. The aquarium costs extra -- they let you go there too. You should go and have a nice day there.
Yeah I get the thought once every 2 months at this point.
>sometimes
Technically, my life is actually going pretty great right now, but after I ran out of real and immediate problems, my brain came up with imaginary ones with much less obvious solutions.
>Shivers
>The Genuinely Supra-Natural
>elysium is one of my favorite game settings ever
>we've barely seen any of it
>we will never see more of it because it was stolen by shady estonian businessmen
how do i make it stop hurting, bros?
There's no answer that doesn't involve advocating for the deaths of those responsible
>how do i make it stop hurting, bros?
Cope by telling yourself DE was always going to be lightning in a bottle, and the sequel would have just somehow retroactively ruined the first one anyways. In which case never having a (real) sequel is a blessing
>finally decide to try
>play for 4-5 days (a few hours a day since work was busy)
>really enjoy it
>end the first day well, clean up the body and make some progress on other ends
>bg3 comes out
>nolife that, just started act 3
Welp I guess I'll come back to disco in 1-2 weeks but I'm already forget 1/2 the shit, frick
>abanoning kino for some goyslop
pull the trigger already. No one will miss you, and the world will be a little bit better for it
ALcohol is wonderfull/
measurehead is a reatrd.
I like this book game so much that I want to start reading actual books. Can any Gankerbros recommend me some books with a similar vibe to DE? The setting isn't too important, I just want to read something about the inner psychology of some fricked-up guy that's both depressing and hopeful.
Have you read anything by Dostoevsky? His books are not exactly like DE but they do involve a lot of psychology and have the depressing and hopeful feel you're looking for.
Terrible and Sacred Air
infinite jest has a similar writing style and deals with a lot of the same themes (especially addiction, if you like drugs or alcohol you should read IJ)
it's a bit of a hard read since it's a thousand pages long but it's worth it
Notes from Underground by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Nausea and No Exit by Jean-Paul Sartre
The Stranger by Camus
100 Years of Solitude by Gabriel Marquez
The Temple on the Golden Pavillion by Yukio Mishima
pretty much any book by Thomas Pynchon but especially either Gravity's Rainbow if you're looking for that 'depressing but hopeful' feel or Bleeding Edge if you want a frickup detective who bumbles their way through the case
I also hear Choke by Chuckwhatever (the guy who wrote Fight Club) is pretty good when it comes to depressing inner narratives but I haven't read it
Dostoevsky, Kafka, Bulgakov.
God Emperor of DUNE.
Fans of this game are all cringy ass autistic political memers, thinks alcohol is funny and unironic homosexuals
The self-deprecating jokes are backed up by him being genuinely suicidal and believably broken.
It is a very literary game and the developers are familiar with writing real literature. The writing took precedence over gameplay due to the very straightforward (or well barebones) gameplay.
In a word. Uncompromised.
HELP THEY GOT THE CUNO
Hes hes Digging his Dick Out
HELP
Shh cuno only oinks now, did you know pigs have corkscrew dicks?
This game made me cry
it makes everyone with a soul cry
This was the most moving ending to a videogame I've ever witnessed. It's unbelievable because, in a sense, something like this was the only way the investigation could conclude, but until it happens it is unfathomable.
I very badly wish I hadn't spoiled it for myself. I would've never seen it coming and it would have blown my fricking mind.
>Of all the creatures I've met, you are the kindest.
>omething like this was the only way the investigation could conclude
Unless you frick up the roll and get nothing
should've been a fake roll like dodging the shot tbh, I feel really bad for the people who missed it
I can't even imagine what those people who lost the dice toss must feel
It should definitely be a forced 66 like Kim shooting the guy
>DETECTIVE
>ARRIVING
>ON THE SCENE
i'm pretty sure the roll is guaranteed to succeed if you sprayed yourself with the pheromones
but yeah it shouldn't even be behind a roll, it's too important to be missable
>i'm pretty sure the roll is guaranteed to succeed if you sprayed yourself with the pheromones
nope, you can still fail it
I fricked up the roll. I didn't realise it was a big deal.
How bad did I miss out? Did I really miss out on the fricking ending? I should play it again anyway but damn.
you didn't miss out on much storywise but it's basically the thematic climax of harry's arc
definitely worth a replay imo
It's the one moment of hope for our broken detective.
>I can see it.
Meh, Disco Elysium is more of a interesting story with different approaches and less of a good game to me.
Mainly because you cannot really botch the investigation and it always concludes the same way.
>Knew vaguely that you get to find the phasmid someplace in the game
>Knew that it talks to harry
>Expected it to be a plausibly deniable hallucination that only Harry sees
>Get to the end and wonder if I missed it
>This happens
Never have I felt such emotion and wonder in a game before. Disco Elysium is something special.
fascism bad
communism good
I don't want to get better- I want to get worse.
>no mention of the actual best quote yet
My hands, they shake.
some of that reads like actual Ganker-isms like rollslop and ludokino kek
how is this game's music as kino as its writing?
Because a lot of it is literally just from Sea Power albums, with the rest filled in by the band
Kurvitz listened to their music, said to himself "that'd go great in a videogame" and then paid them to let him use it
>Kurvitz listened to their music, said to himself "that'd go great in a videogame" and then paid them to let him use it
Kurvitz and Kojima are the only devs based enough to do this and I love them for introducing me to Sea Power and Low Roar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqf-92FNGv4
Great music. I always get a little emotional listening the DE soundtrack/Sea Power because I was going through cancer treatment when I played it.
Man I remember dropping the game because my dad is 1 to 1 harry and I couldn't take it.
Extremely charismatic talk to everyone resourceful guy who's brain was completely shattered when my mom left him due to refusing to stop being a wild animal. I've desperately tried to get him out of it, and every once in a while I got a little spark of genius out of him only for it to get snuffed out again with drugs and booze.
Filled with love and potential but like a starship who's engine exploded halfway and is just spinning out of control.
Finally finished it last week, at least I got to give my Harry a better ending.
>at least I got to give my Harry a better ending.
Maybe you would have gotten some closure if you hadn't
wait, this isn't the guy from the portal 2 comic?
No that's Detective Raphael Ambrosius Costeau
wrong, that's Tequila Sunset
Wrong, that's Harry "The Human Can Opener" Dubois!!!
it's the fricking Firewalker you goddamn secondaries
Wrong, that's Kras Mazov reincarnated
Implying I dont know Guillaume le Million when I see him
When I started the game, I was really expecting the plot to be "You're really dead, and this is your brain's final cope before you fade into the void forever"
I'm considering playing this game after it being in my backlog for awhile because the last couple of games I've played have all been 3D action adventure and I need something different.
Frick Garte. Seriously he's the evil of this town.
>refuses to give you a drink
>even after you tell him without one you'll go into withdrawals
Understandable, but still butthole behavior.
garte becomes based after the tribunal
>says "i realized i don't actually give a shit if i live or die"
>empathy goes "holy shit, he's telling the truth"
if during the tribunal you tell the mercenaries someone else could've done it, and have learned about the secret passageways previously, when asked how it's possible for anyone else to have been present to do the killing, you can say "there are secret passageways in the whirling in rags that some people know about! like Garte!"
garte's reaction had me rolling on the floor for a solid five minutes
>discovering the Insulindian Miracle
>dancing in the church as Revachol reaches out for you to save her
What other moments of hope for our boy Harry stood out?
>finishing the nightclub and realizing it might help stop the spread of pale, even if only slightly
>the tower staying up
Bwamp i am the clown i don't know my work please let me suck your money from your balls
I'M GAY
I'm Garte the bartender bwamp
wiener carousel.
Seethe boozo.
Played it. It's 5/10 at best.
>best vidya protag
>Alcoholic with no actual depth
Yeah..., no.
What does this mean?
Oh wait didn't see the hook. No, my post is not a bait, I actually played this "game". Got a dialogue in the end where I was called insane for wearing armour, was pretty funny, one of the things I actually rememberd after the playtrhough.
I played this game and literally uninstalled it when I heard "le f slur" censored.
That and the pretentious writing
>didn't figuratively uninstall it too
poser
what
the joke is that it's not actually homosexual that is being censored but the in-universe version of homosexual. but because it's censored you just think it's homosexual. the game has ever other in-universe slur uncensored and characters use slurs pretty liberally. try playing it again. you can even be racist yourself
I would be I already refunded it
There's actually one completely uncensored homosexual in the game. Kim says it but he gets the pass since he's gay
this is a lie
There are at least two uncensored f****ts, one is Kim if you get him to wear the Pissf****t jacket, the other is the narrator at some point, I think also in relation to the jackets
> the other is the narrator at some point, I think also in relation to the jackets
it's when you're jumping to get your jacket, the narrator describes cuno calling you a flying homosexual
>Kurvitz will not become the slavic Kojima because the producers israeliteed him out of the company and slandered his name and blackballed him out of the industry
Feels fricking bad bros
it fits the theme of the game
>book
>Revachol get nuked, world war happen, the Pale swallows them all in the end
>game
>Harry feels that Revachol will be nuked and the city itself ask him for help, and the tone is in general more hopeful
I wonder if it's the author attempting to retcon his own lore by having a character capable of saving his universe for total destruction.
how different is the game if you pick a completely different build? considering a second playthrough for the things i missed but i'm not sure if it's worth it if most everything stays the same. i mostly focused on inland empire and shivers (and volition because i was a fascist and needed morale) during my first playthrough, then adding other stuff as i needed it.
Harry could have been so hot if he's not a drunkard addict.
Check out this handsome man, with a face free of algul's wrath
>somebody walked out on this
Frick that b***h.
the worst part is that she convinced him to join the police force, then left after the police force changed him. this game has the most realistic depiction of women and their moronic manipulative behavior. frick them
>"You *told* me — you asked me to be this way."
>"That was someone else. I betrayed her, overwrote her, and am happier for it."
Harry and Dora deserved each other
Wömen truly are crazy. They should be gagged and locked in the kitchen.
she aborted his kids twice too
Should've been a better provider. RCM payment is shit.
Jesus Christ this could only have been written by a woman or someone who has suffered a similar fate at their hands.
Wow anon, your media literacy is really improving!
Wish we got more nights where you can discuss your progress with Kim besides the first time
>I'm le sad alcoholic?
This is why video games can't be taken seriously
>le sad alcoholic is the premise for like 25% of all critically acclaimed media moron
Semanese women look like this?
kipt women built for bwc
>coming up with a percentage out of his ass
How should I go about saving in this game? I gave it a go a couple years back, and didn't want to save scum because it does seem like the devs did a good job of making failed skill checks as interesting as successful ones. However, on that playthrough I got to the part with the fat company man and the uncomfortable chair and lost a bunch of health way faster than I was expecting to. I died, got sent to the beginning of the game, and kinda lost motivation to play for awhile.
don't reload if you fail a dice roll but absolutely reload if you get a game over, no one expects you to start over from the beginning
There's two justifiable reload points, one where you Call Kim a Yellow Monkey Fricker and the other for failing the final perception roll.
Something about one of the most broken human beings in existence still trying despite every rational idea pointing to suicide
Am I moronic or was Joyce’s “board” that she refers to just her own set of fractured brain personalities?
>Harry takes part in the shootout at the church
>Gets bad vibes from the hole there
>Flash forwards a few years to the Tequila Sunset binge
>Goes back to the church
>Somehow uses the hole to wipe his memories?
>finish the game
>wonder where all commie shit Ganker spews comes from since there is barely anything in the game pushing you towards communism
And it's from his book in the same universe that i 100% nobody here read.
The ghost of communism was definitely there, but as a Russian, I've learnt to ignore it.
Raging alcoholic with woman troubles
>dude fricked girl way out of his league, lost her >now he can't settle for less
>drinks himself into stupor
Many such cases, lol.
I dont get it
Global warming is bad. We need communism to stop it.
Kinda wish we got genderswap options like ME does
Holy frick I want to party with unhinged hag henrietta.
COUGAR SEX!
> Hmm . . . Damn male kid (28 year old) ...! !! !! Engage in corporate espionage... Need frick correction ...
>we need to make the death of this man less conspicuous...
>better string him up for the whole neighborhood to see
what the frick was her endgame?
Suicide because Klaasje preferred to frick Lely.
>haha it's all about going sideways, not winning
Then I won't play your game.
You gays here about this?
%3D
Someone's trying to... retro-fy the game so that it can be played in a gameboy
Not sure why anyone would want to do this, because he makes severe limitations on the emotions by literally restricting them into the main 4 of INT/PSY/FYS/MOT, but it exists if any of you autists still have a gameboy
why are so many of you obsessed with chicks you never dated or were cucked by? at least my dora i actually dated and regularly fricked before she tore my heart out lmao.
>hurr durr why is this board /LULZ/-lite
because playing video games and posting on Ganker is a sure way to tell a person is a social outcast
you can be a social outcast and still frick hot chicks who are also social outcasts, i've done it for years.
The more sad it is the more art it is.
I want to suck his dick so bad
I passed the check.
I still let Klaasje go.
Yeah, Klaasje wasn't the guy I was after.
Is this game fun? Never really gotten into a crpg before
If you value good prose, yeah. It's less of a cRPG, and more of a CYOA, but a damn good one.
I love it but it's a lot of text, a lot of sleight of hand about your choices, effectively a point and click, and the murder is really only an excuse to be here.
If you're okay with that you'll probably enjoy it.
It's not a fast paced action game, there isn't even a combat system, so be aware of this.
All hail her Innocence, Dolores Dei!
All hail the Suzerain
It's not possible to live
>draws an x-shaped cross from shoulder to shoulder
She's a mass murderer.
t.Noid
who doesn't get accused of a little mass murder these days?
Half Light should have three times the dialogue and give you malus to some checks if you go over like 7-8.
War criminal
it's a vn so he is more of a novel protag
I want to have frick with you
I played this part with my gf watching and she kept asking why I was crying
You know lads, I have a pretty good life by all metrics. I have a relationship, a job, I'm in decent physical health, I don't need or want for much and yet I fundamentally lack purpose.
I feel a gnawing, all-consuming terror at the very edges of my mind when I allow myself to think on it for any length of time, that despite everything I have I am deeply, deeply unsatisfied. I distract myself with petty, meaningless crap like sports and video games, or get drunk on a weekend to numb it, but inside I long for meaning. I think I have become conscious of the condition of the 21st century western man and I want to go back to blissful ignorance, but it's always there in the back of my mind nagging at me that I'm terminally purposeless.
Helps if you figure out at least one thing that matters to you and work towards that. Might require pretty heavily uprooting your life though.
Not to be a homosexual and try to one up you with how shit my life is vs yours but also to do exactly that: at least you have all the normal features of a human being. That terror is unbearable if you fricked up badly enough to become a NEET. It can always get worse.
Time to get into a creative hobby.
>I don't need or want for much and yet I fundamentally lack purpose.
>I feel a gnawing, all-consuming terror at the very edges of my mind when I allow myself to think on it
your purpose is to worship god, you aren't fulfilling that and therefore you feel empty. consider looking into the main world religions(there's like 5) unbiasedly and then the answer should be obvious. it's supposed to be built into you to a degree
Oh no, he's even worse than a communist, he's a christcuck. Why don't you bend over in front of your god and turn the other cheek, gaygeroni? Maybe he'll impregnate your wife again with another messiah.
You sound bitter. Find God x)
You're a cuck and your religion worships a dead israelite nailed to a stick and your scripture is a bunch of self contradictory nonsense written by heat stricken psychoactive cacti abusing israelite desert shepherds. I'm not bitter, I'm mocking you for your idiotic beliefs.
It's pretty fricking obious you are one because only they and shitslamists prey on vulnerable people that feel like they are lacking something in life, like a fricking hobby, in order to induct them into their death cults.
"You're [ad hominem, ad hominem, ad hominem, headcanon, delusion, ad hominem]"
Wow! Interesting!
More interesting and entertaining than your drivel, thank you.
>he's a christcuck.
i explicitly didn't say what's the true religion. I'll let him figure it out on his own and he should be able to, and if he wants to avoid the question entirely like you that's also up to him, everyone will end up where they're supposed to at the end this interaction won't change much beyond giving a few directions
Piss off with Christgayging. Religion is just as much a distraction from meaning as drugs or alcohol. What started as a cope mechanism that our ancestors go somewhere nice when they die and that doing a silly dance can make it rain turned into millennia of enforced control and suffering at the hands of the powerful, conning the entire race into doing absurd rituals asking for divine favours and still being expected to worship when their kids die of cancer or a tornado rips through their town.
No, I lack purpose that nature give us, hunting, gathering, protecting the family unit from threats. The false narrative that organized religion provides meaning is absolutely vile and you're not doing anyone any favours by feeding them delusions and exerting subtle control.
>if God exist why bad thing happen
Is it really *bad?* Or are you just blind?
>muh nature
Spare me.
Oh look a seething redditor crashed the scene.
Now tell us then if you know so much, whats the answer to their problems?
Talk now and clear with no smug anachronisms to bullshit you made up to feel less insecure please
I'm sure your solutions are superior to his because your big invisible sky man told you so.
>Immediately brings up reddit in place of an actual argument
>Dude you can like, figure it all out if you read this book that was written 2000 years ago by goatfrickers in the middle east :^)
>says the guy who was crying about his life having no meaning 30 minutes ago
>still doesn't go to africa to live in a jungle
you're in denial, don't expect any of us to humour your contradictory behaviour
>Says religion brings his life meaning and whatever
>Gets incredibly butthurt when someone points out that he's just getting controlled and coerced by people in a position of power to give him the illusion of meaning
You can be religious without shilling out to the church, you know. Fricking moron.
>>Says religion brings his life meaning and whatever
and I'm correct
>>Gets incredibly butthurt
isn't the case
>when someone points out that he's just getting controlled and coerced by people in a position of power to give him the illusion of meaning
how am i being controlled and coerced ? it's not like I'm taxed or jailed deciding to follow religion is my own choice and you'll have to prove the contrary if you aren't a liar
>still doesn't move to an african jungle to fight for his life
of course you wouldn't. you aren't here for an answer you're here to waste your time and distract your self from your depressing reality, will have fun doing that on your own
>Religion is just as much a distraction
not really, religion provides answers and you're supposed to discern between the right and wrong answers
>still being expected to worship when their kids die of cancer or a tornado rips through their town.
life is a test, you aren't supposed to be having fun here, god states this clearly he will test you until your true colors come out. and in the end when you go to heaven then literally none of this pain will matter since you're in ever lasting bliss
>No, I lack purpose that nature give us, hunting, gathering, protecting the family unit from threats.
if you believe that then just go to Africa and live in a jungle, wouldn't that fix your supposed problem ?
>The false narrative that organized religion provides meaning
answers and meaning
>and you're not doing anyone any favours by feeding them delusions and exerting subtle control.
suit your self. I'm not here to take you one way or the other, you asked a question and i gave you an answer why you refuse to give it a thought is beyond me but it is your choice and you are the one that will reap the results
Read literature, it helps cover up the gap. Dosto, Moby-Dick, Book of Job, Ecclesiastes. All very 'spiritual'
I didn't cry during my first time playing Disco until I decided to tune in to the OST one day and I realized I was bawling my eyes out by the end of it. God, the more I think about this game, the more I like it.
These ones make me bawl my eyes out;
>The moral of our encounter is: I am a relatively median lifeform -- while it is you who are total, extreme madness. A volatile simian nervous system, ominously new to the planet. The pale, too, came with you. No one remembers it before you. The cnidarians do not, the radially symmetricals do not. There is an almost unanimous agreement between the birds and the plants that you are going to destroy us all.
I would often go there
To the tiny church there
The smallest church in Sussex
Though it once was larger
How the rill may rest there
Down through the mist there
Toward the Seven Sisters
Toward those white cliffs there
I would ofter stay there
In there tiny yard there
I have been so glad here
Looking forward to the past here
But now you are alone
None of this matters at all
>ChristBlack folk still absolutely fricking seething because their entire way of life has been outed a s psyop in front of their eyes and they can't bring themselves to accept it
What's with all these preachers on Ganker?
They love threads like this because they can take advantage of vulnerable and helpless anons to shill their cult to. Disgusting really. See how they recoil and start making attacks as soon as they're rebuked for their behaviour?
2016 and crusader memes
It's just contrarianism and self righteous faux-rebellion. None of these people actually go to church. I guarantee they would've been Ricky Gervais watching atheists in 2010.
>Seethe
Wait, all this discussion is just some guy coping with being a virgin?
*for being
idk it's fun to talk to guys like this. it gives me a little sense of superiority but part of me wants to help bc i remember being that guy when I was a teenager.
>it gives me a little sense of superiority
For being a failure five times over?
Youre all the same to me
hey hey hey i've slept with more people than i've dated come on anon, i'm a debased materialist remember
I could have lost my virginity over a dozen times, but what sort of satisfaction would that give me? Anyone can lose their virginity. An infinitesmally miniscule number of people can do so but choose not to.
The demoralization really did a number on you huh
I accept your (banal) concession.
>I could have lost my virginity over a dozen times
Goddamn frick i need to start it again, i dropped it because of some group game with friends and now im aching to start drinking. T: Half mongol
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>Entire thread derailed because a homie with a superiority complex can't get laid
Many such cases.
to add a reaction that's at least on topic
WTF did this thread turn into near the end of it.
if anything it's impressive that it lasted so long without shit slinging
I'm right though