Which refresh rate is better for your eyes?
144hz or 240hz?
Does a higher refresh rate strain your eyes worse or is it better or the same?
Does it make a difference in regards to degradation of eyesight?
Better monitor refresh rate for eyes
Which refresh rate is better for your eyes?
144hz or 240hz?
Does a higher refresh rate strain your eyes worse or is it better or the same?
Does it make a difference in regards to degradation of eyesight?
You won't notice the difference of higher than 120Hz.
I have a 144hz monitor and I notice the difference when I set the max fps to 120 down from 144. It's minor but noticeable.
Its placebo
You could use this argument for 60 and 120 too. You were just fine playing games in 60 fps when you were younger, and before that in 30. In fact you most people were much happier than we are now. So yea it really does not matter if you wanna put it that way.
I notice the difference and honestly can't go down to 120hz now that I use 144 regularly
I think it's going to be the same with 240hz when I finally have a monitor that does that. People who can't tell the difference I think just have less evolved brains and are incapable of seeing things that more evolved brains can see
1000 fps is best for your eyes
Scientifically speaking, The human eye can’t even see passed 30FPS. I don’t get why people insist on rigs that run at 120+ FPS when you literally can’t tell the difference.
fricking moron
No, u.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/the-human-eye-cant-see-more-than-30fps-when-there-are-100-frames-or-more.1471501/
>Posts a troll article
Very nice
>The human eye can’t even see passed 30FPS
>Which refresh rate is better for your eyes?
Yes
Dumbfrick
Eyes see at the speed of light you idiot
Your nerves don't transmit anywhere near that fast, then it has to go through your visual cortex to be interpreted and relayed to your conscious mind.
Your brain uses a lot of tricks to give the illusion of a continuous existence.
If you close your eyes, and simultaneously touch the tip of your nose with a finger on one hand and the tip of your big toe with a finger on the other hand you will feel it at the same time despite the fact that nerve impulses travel slowly and the distance an impulse travels from your toe, up your leg, to your spine, and up to your brain is milliseconds longer than from your nose through your sinuses, and into your brain. But your conscious mind is kept "behind" right now, and there is a whole structure of the brain responsible for assigning a time stamp to all of your sensations, so in a situation like touching your nose and toe, it doesn't matter that they don't happen at the same time because they both get the same time stamp, so when that gets to your conscious mind it reads the assigned timestamp and says "these things happened at the same time."
Deja vous is this part of your brain making a filing error. It takes something that happened "now" and says it happened "before" and you're left with this weird sensation of DUDE THIS HAPPENED ALREADY!
If you've ever gotten punched in the face, sometimes you'll smell blood right before you get hit because you've already been hit and your playing catch up.
When people get into a flow state, either through fight or flight, or just being in "the zone" and they can see everything happening in slow motion, its because you're cutting out that step in the editing process between your conscious mind and object reality.
Not even spiritualism or tinfoil hat shit, just basic neuroscience, our conscious selves are seen more and more to be a hallucinatory artifact.
Refresh rate is meaningless. Get a monitor that prioritizes channels properly, especially blue ones. It helps if you use adjustable lights in your room and also flux during the evening and at night. I always go with BenQ, their policy has always been eye care first and everything else second. This makes them not as competitive or popular in the market but I've never had to go to an oculist and don't need any glasses at all.
flux should be on even during the day. blue light is literal cancer for your eyes.
I agree. But... I need blue colors for my work so rip.
there's zero proof that blue light damages your retina stop acting like a fearmongering boomer on facebook
imagine putting a piss filter on your screen because some moron on youtube or discord told you that
Completely false. Ten second into Google proves you otherwise, google Harvard blue light permanent vision damage, ncbi.nlm has a few studies on it too. Not corporate funded either you tinfoil moron. Even so it doesn't take a genius to figure out if you shove a white screen in your face all day it ruins your eyes.
>Harvard
Well then
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/will-blue-light-from-electronic-devices-increase-my-risk-of-macular-degeneration-and-blindness-2019040816365
did you even read the study you're talking about spastic?
it says blue light DOES NOT harm your eyes any more than an extremely bright light of any other colour would, and that consumer electronics are no where near bright enough to do that.
was it ever up for question if extremely bright lights hurt your eyes? I think everyone fricking knows that by having seen a very bright light before, considering there one if you look up every single day.
We do not have enough information on it and in lieu of no information we must assume that it doesn't. Read the conclusion very carefully again and take a moment to really think about your life right now.
it doesn't even make sense considering we see blue light in nature all the time; if that wavelength could damage your eyes we would've evolved to deal with it hundreds of millions of years ago
anyway I looked into the research and it turned out the papers pushing the "blue light causes damage" had two important caveats that are never mentioned:
1. they were sponsored by a company selling blue light reducing sunglasses
2. they shone a high powered laser at retinal cells in a petri dish and concluded blue light damages the retina
So while what they said is technically true, sort of, it's also a big lie and was bought and paid for by a company that planned to profit off people who can't do their research
>it's a schizo post
I'm not surprised.
Read the harvard post. We don't have enough information to confirm it but even they agree -it's not good for your health-. Read the conclusion carefully.
I think I'll take my chances with peer reviewed studies, (which clearly are shown who is involved, where the funding comes from and who is the co-interested party in said research completely out in the open) than some random poster on Ganker talking about "muh basic common sense". You want common sense, shoving a giant light up your face all day isn't good for you. Daylight sunlight rays take distance+time to travel into your retina, this is a giant flashbulb you shove up your face. If you think that's good then go stare at the sun. Think for two seconds before posting you schizo nut.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6288536/
Read this very carefully. You won't. So sit and shitpost further, ruin your eyes for all I care.
you do realize the test you linked was a study on what happens if you shine bright blue lights into an eye for 24hrs straight right?
Bro you're on your ass in a dark room shitposting all day. Don't even pretend otherwise.
I accept your concession.
I meant that you stare at your screen all day, moron, check your vision in a few years
Heavy projection, goddamn.
>Therefore, the effect of Blu-rays on ocular is becoming an important concern for the future.
lmao what the frick is that sentence
It means we don't know shit, as in we're literally fricked and noone knows how we're gonna deal with it. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Just make sure to wear a tinfoil hat to go with your piss filter
If you consider dark orange to be a "piss filter" then you've got health issues more than just your vision.
Anon did you know that in ye olden times blacksmiths tended to have much higher rates of cataracts because they spent so long looking into white hot fires that their eyes got blasted by by the UV given off.
The biggest problem with blue wavelength light is that your brain has a hard time telling the difference from sunlight so it fricks up your circadian rhythm. But every monitor and device made in the last few years has built in dark mode and night light settings.
And before flat screens people used CRT's, which is literally a particle accelerator you aim at your face.
Ganker blue boars must be true hell
I use windows built in yellow tint, sucks it can't has to turn off 15minutes everyday
Nice bait moron, now please frick off and go back.
>mom has light blue eyes
>dad has light blue eyes
>mfw i have dark green eyes
Green is based. Stop whining. Imagine if you were asian, african or worse. Irish ginger.
Ireland has a higher proportion of green eyes than anywhere else in the world moron. Blue eyes are mostly Scandinavian (including bri'ish)
Mate I'm outside and around cork, that's the most countryside Irish you can get and literally everyone is redhead brown eyes, including me. Maybe up north, belfast
your mother is a prostitute
>Tfw ambiguously green blue eyes
is that supposed to be a bad thing? lmao
How would you feel if you knew your dad is not your dad and your mom is a bawd?
>can’t into basic biology
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF Ganker
green eyes have a little bit of melanin which helps protect the eye against uv damage
it's better than blue while also not being dirt colored
GREEN CHADS RISE UP!
mother has brown eyes and black hair.
father has brown eyes and black hair.
brother has brown eyes and black hair.
I have blond hair and blue eyes.
you acquired the sleeping master race genes. rejoice
My sisters and I all have different colored eyes. One has blue green one hazel and mine a deep brown
Genetics be weird
doesn't matter, the human eye can't see higher than 60FPS (50 if you're european)
Totally agree.
I'll try to include more demographics in the future.
The old myth that higher refresh rate = less strain is only partially true.
None the less, you're exposing your eyes to a bombardment of flashing lights, out of which the blue wavelength is the worst. You can aid this with the software anti-eye strain solutions or "gamer glasses", but at the end of the day you should prioritize breaks and good rest.
Also FYI, going above 60hz may make you despise even solid 60fps performance, since you can actually see way more than just sixty frames per second for once.
no colour of light is worse or more harmful than any other
especially considering sunlight & white light is made up of all of them
blue light, which was only present in sunlight for most of our evolution, especially because early artificial light sources produced minimal blue light, is a signal for you to be awake, thats it.
it doesn't fricking harm you at all
Ultraviolet
>flashing lights
turn the anti-blur feature of, by default LCD panels don't "flash".
>software anti-eye strain solutions or "gamer glasses"
now THOSE are memes.
That's a meme. The eye strain comes from lack of blinking with long term gaming sessions. You need to blink to lubricate your eyes or your eyes dry and they strain.
not blinking, not having the right distance to size ratio so you need to keep moving your eyes around and constricting & unconstricting your pupils to either focus on specific things or see the whole screen
There's not point in having a high refresh rate monitor if you don't have the frames to match it. It's like buying a 4k monitor to play at 1080p.
Human eye can't see past 24fps
Going outside is better for your eyes you fricking nerd.
Things like monitor brightness, sharpness, resolution, PPI, colors, vibrance, lack of backlight in your room, distance to monitor, etc. have way more to do with eye strain than hertz does. Having said that, 144hz is definitely still nice for your eyes and is extremely affordable by now.
>half the thread is tv Black persontry
>other half is console moronation
>muh blue light killing my eyes
it strains your eye morons if blue light actually did damage to your eyes no one would see a fricking thing because almost everyone's favorite color is blue and it's everywhere
Why are brown people so fragile that even a picture of a colorful eye creates inferior complexes in them? LMAO
i've been using a 144hz monitor for years and now i'm physically unable to use anything that has less hz
a regular 60hz monitor is alright for gaming, but browsing the internet is like having sand in my eyes
and no, i don't have impaired vision, i have 20/20 vision
how bad is it to wet my eyes when dry every once in awhile with filtered tap water?
People literally die from doing that since viruses can still survive in there and can easily get into your brain via your eyes that way.
Go get your eyes checked and get some actual eye drops instead. By using water you're just drying your eyes out even more, giving you the opposite effect of what you are trying to do.
Anon just drink more water for fricks sake.
just get drops moron its like $2 and will last you a month if you use them every day
Take regular breaks where you actually look around at things that are far away and shit. Also make sure your monitor is positioned properly so your posture isn't shit.
it doesn't matter with flatscreens; with CRTs it's a completely different matter and you want to go as high as possible.
>Does a higher refresh rate strain your eyes worse
Real life has a refresh rate way higher than any monitor, and your eyes aren't fricked up from that either.
tell that to my eyes
If you wear glasses it doesn't matter glass can't see anything higher than144hz or 1080p
>Ruins your purchase
https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/monitor/
why in the FRICK are monitor prices so stagnant
Is 1440/144 going to cost ~300 until the end of time?
bewildering, isn't it? I bought mine for like 350 almost a decade ago.
Maybe once 4K goes more mainstream in a couple years then 1440p will drop in price
by that time 1440p will be dropped completely like cope 900p monitors were
Wrong because 4K is stupid for monitors and especially windows desktops. The pixel density of 1440p monitor is perfectly fine and always will be.
That tier of resolution + speed was like 900 bucks 2 years ago.
even if the backlighting was even it would still be ruined because it has no fricking "dark" mode. IPS is medium gray where it should be black. I don't know how people ever got the idea IPS had "good colors". wow, good colors, except if you want anything below half-bright.
So what monitors have a good dark mode? I can't play anything with a modicum of darkness on my fricking IPS monitor
VNs are basically the opposite of IPS. good dark colors but in motion everything is smeary and laggy and weird. so not for gaming.
TN is the standard for a reason. it's the jack of all trades, master of none class and for gaming nothing else makes any sense.
Guess I'll look into getting a TN, tired of IPS' shit
OLED, there's just no competition, it's the future. They're pretty common in white countries so hopefully we'll see them go mainstream one day.
LG C2 display is the most glorious thing you'll ever have the privilege of experiencing.
>actually read reviews and make an informed purchase
Would suck to be a sucker like you
>"people of color"
>all brown eyes, brown skin, brown hair
maybe they should just call them people of brown.
yep. lets call things what they really are, diversity just one dark sluDge
What a stupid fricking infographic. None of those eye colors are unique to white people.
i see black ink leaking into those eye tho
Yet you don't have them yourself, you're jelly.
2560x1440 120hz
Or
1920x1080 144hz
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use eye drops every so often. if you get the kind with preservatives, you can only use them 3-4 times daily, but natural eye drops can be used as much as you want (according to my eye doctor)
i think dry eyes is the main culprit, since as your eyes dry they need to work harder to adjust (drier means more friction)
also, adjust the brightness/contrast, colour settings, etc.
not sure whether curved monitors help or not, but they supposedly match how eyes curve so it's a bit more natural. i think that moving your screen away from the wall would achieve the same thing. i keep my desk in the middle of the room.
also, instead of wasting your money buying blue-light blocking glasses, get a cheap pair of tinted ones, a light red or light yellow tint.
i have one pair of fancy pants blue-light blocking glasses, and one pair of cheap red-tinted fashion glasses. the cheap pair isn't even prescription, but my eyes feel the same wearing those as they do with the more expensive pair.
i don't care to research whether blue-light blocking glasses actually work, but in my experience there is slightly less strain with either the expensive pair or cheap red pair compared to standard glasses or no glasses.
My DP cable got fricked and when I switch to 144hz, the display turns off sometimes (power supply is fine but no display signal is received). It works fine on 60hz. Is there any way to change refresh rate without the display on, so that when the cable burns out permanently in 144hz i wont be stuck?
My monitor is 165Hz therefore 165 is the best and most optimal and you're moronic for thinking otherwise.
I have a 240 because I realize I mostly use my PC for YouTube and pirated movies. This way that's not fricked and I can still game fine.
I'm sure the difference is minor but eh
>>High fps games is good
>>High fps movies feels wrong
yeah I tried researching the same question a while back and I don't think there's a conclusion, but most opinions were that it's a either the same or slightly better when it's higher. I don't think it matters much eye health wise.
strain is caused by flicker and brightness