Is the boom of retro style shooters sustainable or is it already dying down? What should indie shooters star doing to differentiate from one another? It's like a mass of samey games to me now, it's become a niche with a cottage industry.
Boomershooters
No modern doom clone managed to make me feel like I'm playing a 90s doom clone or even doom. Selaco demo made me vomit from all that shit happening on my screen, Dusk isn't really Quake-y, Prodeus was too boring, though its OST was p good
>Dusk isn't really Quake-y
Dusk is worse than every Quake game. And not just the gameplay: the aesthetics, the level design, the sound, everything. I'd even rather replay Quake 2 than it. Have no idea why is it such an indie darling. Maybe because it was one of the first revivals?
It doesn't matter that dusk was worse than any quake game or that it was mediocre because it was the only retro-style shooter to come out the year that it did. Boomer bait nostalgia gays don't care about quality, just supporting current thing.
They should use an interesting setting and interesting designs with the ennemies and weapons. Pic related did it well.
We already don't need more grimdark medieval fantasy settings and we'll soon have too many ones using a cyberpunk setting.
Dusk is still one of the very best ones 4 years later though. It has good atmosphere, good levels, varied locations, good enemies design, fun gameplay, etc.
Also Ion Fury and Amid Evil, two of the biggest ones at the time were in early access at the same time and came out a few months later and they clearly didn't make it obsolete.
Ion Fury is the only good one out of the "top 3", Dusk and Amid Evil are the most boring time wasters that I had the misfortune to experience.
Quakes are dull as frick i have never finished them even once, levels are a boring slog like Doom, while Dusk is pleasure to play and finished it easily. At least Quake 2 has kick ass ost but that's about it.
Shut the frick up worthless moron
yo sup indie dev? wus craccin?
1 - Selaco is not a Doom clone. The devs are very upfront about that
2 - If you think the screen is too busy, maybe reduce particle effect setting. Simple.
Doom sucks compared to quake, simple as
Dusk is top tier
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define boomer shooter
Is Halo a boomer shooter ?
Is Unreal a boomer shooter ?
Is No one Lives forever a boomer shooter ?
Is FEAR a boomer shooter ?
What is a boomer shooter ?
Obviously it means "retro-style shooter". If it's going for a style of FPS that is unlike what the mainstream puts out and like older games, it may well qualify.
I feel like roughly 2000 is the cutoff. so Unreal is a genuine boomer shooter, NOLF is like borderline but Halo absolutely isn't, since it set a new standard thereafter that games are still patterned to this day
Is Strife a boomer shooter ?
Boomer shooters are made for PC, and PC only. If a game is later ported to consoles, it's still a boomer shooter as long as it was made with PC in mind originally. It's very obvious when a game's movement and shooting is consolized. Also, gameplay takes primary focus, and any story merely servers to provide the context for the action rather than getting in its way. As long as those criteria or followed, I consider it a boomer shooter, because it's 80% of what I care about in a shooter. I can forgive bad level design and enemy encounter design as long as the combat isn't sluggish and it's not filled with unskippable cutscenes or scripted sequences.
>define boomer shooter
Any shooter released in the last 10 years that has archaic mechanics and sub-professional level art design. This means it's good, because Quake's loop of shoulder-peeking ogres with the grenade launcher ad infinitum was the peak of FPS design.
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Dude you try way to hard to shill this game of yours.
>shill
The dev is a Japanese solo dev gurogay, I doubt he posts on Ganker
Neat
tried this game and it kinda feels too hard for me even with default settings (I don't normally play FPS games)
I'm constantly taking a lot of damage and run out of healing items
you can lower the difficulty
Yeah but that would feel like cheating. Guess I should just abuse cover a lot in this game.
assuming you're on level 4, you're playing one of the hardest (early) levels in the game and you just need to get good
Is this function in the game yet?
I played one level and I couldn't do this
For me, it's the gun autism.
Yes, but I don't remember if it's in the demo. You have to sprint and crouch at the same time to slide.
The chest and stomach sprites were also updated at some point, so they look nicer now than in that webm.
>same webm for god knows how long
have a nice day shill
you obviously dont understand why people like these games, great level design never gets old and most of these (not your pic related however) have great levels
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Actually it's Quakensteins
>Boomershooters
have a nice day, you waste of oxygen.
I'm hyped for the new Warhammer game.
Finishing Doom 2 for the first time this week.
Got stuck in city map, the worst map in the game so far.
>being able to aim sideways
i need this as a standard feature
Wasn't this in UT decades ago?
Faster fire rate for worse accuracy.
I love these kinds of games mechanically speaking I just wish they wouldn't so frequently do the muh retro grafix shit; sure they're indie I'm not expecting quantum raytracing or dilithium pixel shading or whatever aaa in-vogue shit that's shoehorned in to move gpus, but at least make it like... doom3 or prey('06) etc... mid 2000s level graphics surely that shouldn't be too difficult to do with asset stores or something
sure I really enjoyed dn3d, i'd say it's what 'got me into videogames' in general, but like my first frickin car had hand crank windows and a cassette player and I had a paper map in the glove compartment instead of gps on my phone; I don't necessarily want to 'go back' to all of that even if I have fond memories of it overall
d3/prey is too much to ask from indies, but it is sad that these have less production quality than source mods from 15 years ago that were of course completely free. i would be happy with even goldsrc shit like 1.6/DoD at this point, i just want a fast paced actual 3d game rather than "3d" sprite stuff.
infiltration mod for ut99 blows all of this shit out of the water in terms of quality and again was of course completely free. it seems like the types of people who get into gamedev these days aren't really into shooters, it's been over a decade of le retro pixelshit at this point. i don't know that a lot of indie devs care for fast paced gameplay, it seems like they want to try to write literature instead.
can someone recommend the best indies of the last 5 years or so with good GAMEPLAY?
>have less production quality than source mods
i don't even think it's "less production quality", I think they're intentionally going out of their way for muh pixel retro shit, putting in more effort than just using free or store assets with a more 'modern' feel
imo peak boomershooter was d44m, I don't expect anything of that level of polish to come out of indie studios on a regular basis but yeah like you said, source mods from 15 years ago quality I'd be fine with. hell, doomclones in source engine stuff is fine by me
it really does seem like they're very focused on style (specifically this retro pixel stuff) but I suppose there must be a market for it if so many of them are doing it repeatedly
it could be like one of those 'post-modern post-ironic' cultural things about ' well there's no way we can compete with aaa grafix so let's just intentionally make it all pixels so nobody can complain about our texture stretching or reuse etc... because it's "retro style(tm)" '
my problem with the retro graphics is that they're rarely actually trying to restrain themselves to similar technically limitations of an era or of particular games. Like I'm not saying they need to do that and stick to it absolutely, just to start from there and then bend the rules a bit to find a sweet spot between authentically retro and pleasant to look at. HROT is a decent example of doing it right but also I think that's made by one guy who also made a whole engine just for the sake of it.
Most of the time it's just larping with some dogshit "PSX Shader" from the Epic/Unity store and calling it a day, or else some heavily modded GZDoom shit and almost always painful to look at because more particles + more shit on screen compensates for actually have good game design.
It's not sustainable but it was an important step for indie devs to realize they can make more than platformers. The fad'll die down but not go away forever.
>make boomer fps thread
>posts the worst boomer fps
Posting the best one, then
that i can agree upon.
also picrel
this is absolute cringe THICC garbage
this is an actual unironic masterpiece. listening to the soundtrack right now
I heard they were made by the same people?
I might have bought this game had it embraced it's futa roots and gone full fetish.
wow that's so interesting troony. please tell us more about your fetish?
>Bro remember when you had to look for keys all over the map
>Ok... but what about... WORSE
Miss me with that shit
>can't even find a key
Maybe candy crush is more your speed, kiddo
he's right though. the game is anti-fun. doesn't help it has a following of coomers and literal trannies
>I'm going to imagine people I don't like play this game so I can dislike it
damn, gotta stop imagining these steam drones
*takes meds*
>I'm gonna troll through 1100 steam reviews to find one written by someone I don't like
literally the first page of the discussion tab when I was looking for an item location. feel free to keep imagining me as a strawman though
>bad at games and has to look up walkthroughs
heh, nothin personal kid
we'll uh keep you updated 🙂
"yeah I play boomer shooters"
>an update years ago broke the NPC line of sight rules to make them able to see through foliage and tent cloth
>the game is now impossible to stealth whatsoever
>still hasn't been patched
> Game named after the mutagen
> Mutagen never appears again in the series
Bravo Ubisoft
There's nothing retro about the Citadel aside from sprite based graphics.
It's dying out because literally nothing is being released.
>Wrath delayed 3 years
>Ion Fury Aftershock delayed
>Graven delayed
>Kingpin Remastered Delayed
>Cultic Delayed
>System Shock delayed
>Core Decay delayed
>Sin Reloaded delayed
It's a fricking complete joke.
>Sin Reloaded
wtf
They're remaking all the textures in the game.
ok that's cool
I know. A lot of the people in the 'boomer shooter' scene are also mentally ill if you catch my drift
the new york knicks will be the champions of nba next playoffs, because i played doom 2 on nightmare (finishing game within 6hours of start) on the first of each month since playoffs ended and will be doing that until next season ends. so after that i' thinking maybe getting back into quake 3 arena if servers are still active.
anyone playing q3a still today? na servers east coast? and its real players or bots?
It's strange how none of these games try and clone serious sam.
Serious Sam was always just le wacky shit, even when they were new nobody gave a frick about that tripe.
>S+M1 games
You can't clone soul. Serious Sam devs are not only pretty funny, but actually know how to make fun games unlike most of the boomer shooter dev crowd.
Serious Sam was always strafe to win trash
>t. doomgay
Serious Sam has better combat and your key hunts are fricking gay.
>large numbers of enemies in wide open areas
>good shooter
Cringe
>sticks red, yellow, and blue dildos up his ass the entire game while shooting worthless mobs that can't walk in a straight line
>good shooter
Cringe.
because serious sam is not a retro or "boomer" shooter, big appeal is clever level design with cleverly placed enemies and resources, and NONE of that exists in serious sam
>define boomer shooter
>Is Halo a boomer shooter ?
>Is Unreal a boomer shooter ?
>Is No one Lives forever a boomer shooter ?
>Is FEAR a boomer shooter ?
>What is a boomer shooter ?