>character gets hyped up the entire game as the ultimate badass
>they finally join your party
>they suck
>character gets hyped up the entire game as the ultimate badass >they suck
>character gets hyped up the entire game as the ultimate badass
>they finally join your party
>they suck
I don't think the Flaming homosexual gets hyped up that much by the game. At least, his ridiculous appearance keeps it from ever coming off that way.
Magus is really good.
I never could make out what or how Flaming homosexual is supposed to look like
A blue skinned Rastaman.
i remember amarant being pretty strong, it's just that he joins so late in the game nobody wants to replace one of their members with him.
I used him as a mana battery and life3 bot. Let my mages just nuke nonstop.
>nobody wants to replace one of their members with him
I did, and he is strong. He has useful utility spells like
said, and he also has an attack called Chakra I think that does a very solid 6-7000 damage. It's no 9999, but it gets the job done. And most of the characters who do that consistently (Zidane, Quina, Freya) require grinding to power up that attack which is boring.
You're talking about No Mercy. Chakra is a broken move capable of restoring HP and MP with minimal cost, and goes Target All mode when he's Tranced.
Eitherway, Amaranth is strong. It's just that his 'place' in the story as a badass bounty hunter is just him being a crux of a lone wolf only to help push Zidane's narrative along. That's it. Nothing grows in or out of him. He could have at least had some character development with Freya or Steiner.
No Mercy depends on the weapon and who you use it on. It gets incredibly brutal once you get the Kaiser Knuckles since it overwrites the element to Wind and no flying enemy becomes safe. Power Up and Chakra can also undo the mana you spend in short time.
amarant isn't that bad. he's just a jack of all trades character and can't do anything that any other party member can't do better. that and he has a shitty design and is not a very cool or interesting character. dagger is probably worse in fights but she's a good character and sexy as hell so that makes her more appealing as a party member
He's the Red Mage of the game, well Monk+Red Mage. Canonically he's also got a huge bulge.
Dagger is great with her summons once you get Boost and max out gems on the cheap summons. I do wish they'd give you the boost skill sooner.
He's very Monk + Ninja.
Freya & Amarant both have support abilities that lend themselves to the redmage archtype but Amarant is so much less so than Freya.
Freya's even got the redmage outfit almost and has more support abilities.
Freya's only real support is Reis' Wind but when everyone learns Auto-Regen, it becomes ineffective. Not to mention you need 50 Spirit to make the most out of it's healing power and very few people know how to level up system in that works. Six Dragons is also a high gambit as there is a 50% chance it will frick that person up (MP to 1, HP to 1 or both) and White Draw is too dependent on the enemy's level when you can just use Tents, Ethers, Vivi's Osmose or fire off a Chakra + Power Up + Elan.
Freya's Dragon Crest at 100 Dragons is more reliable than No Mercy though.
Magus is really good…when he joins. He has multiple magic types and covers the technic gap left when Chrono leaves. Yes he kind of loses his way after that.
Not really. His techs all have higher damage multipliers than everyone else all the way up to ultimate Techs, and even then, with his Magic being so freakishly high, only Lucca and Crono have higher Magic AoE damage, and Lucca can't equip a Haste Helm. Magus is right below the big three of Crono, Robo, Ayala, even at the end of the game.
To add to this, Dark Eternal and Omega Flare are the two strongest magic triple techs in the game and will hit 9999 way before all the other triple techs will.
Amarant sucks because ff9 sucks. Magus is very nearly as cool a pc as a boss.
This. I've almost blocked it from my mind because holy shit, the character design is fricking awful
Amaranth didn't get hyped up that much. Magus is a perfectly solid damage dealer, and in Chrono Trigger you don't need anything else.
>he let Magus join his party
Sorry that you gimped yourself out of experiencing the story properly, anon.
Magus is good. I only think he sucks because he has no double or triple techs except the secret one.
I remember using steiner and garnet all game so I don't even know if the other were good lmao.
Magus would be powerful even as a party member, IF Chrono Trigger worked like a regular jrpg and your party members had the decency to actually stay dead after dying. He gets much stronger when he's alone, but since everyone starts combat with at least 1HP, it's a hassle to make use of him.
>Magus
>Sucks
He's literally one of the strongest characters in the entire game. He could probably solo the end game if he wanted to with enough healing items.
Lol you really have to babysit this guy to make him do what he's supposed to do
Mogged by an onion
This is a good post.
Also, onion with shoes rocks.
Counter-Onion is an exploit
Garr's one crime is not being able to one-shot everything outside the ring
Lets post actual disappointments
>Betrays you for the empire
>becomes the DARK KNIGHT
>Only has 1,000 hp
>below average stats & skills for when you finally get him in the game
I hate subpar late game party members you have to spend extra time on to make them decent.
I don't get why at the beginning of the game you get to name him only for him finally to show up at the last 3 hours. What a waste.
My guess is that they intended for you to recruit Leon for the entire second half of the game- but at some point decided they wanted him to stay gone for plot reasons and created Ricard to fill that void.
Consider that Ricard & Leon are essentially the same build, a knightly frontliner type character. Not to mention Ricard accompanies you to the Mysidian tower and is present for the team's free stat bonuses.
There's also a novelization where Leon is searching for his run-away fiance, and there just so happens to be a single woman hiding away in Deist. May have been a cut premise the same way Palamecia's gypsy fortune teller mother was cut from the game.
Based on the scripts in the Ultimania, it's possible, but still would have been extremely late game: The one script where Ricard doesn't exist puts Mysidian Tower presumably right before Jade Passage/Pandemonium.
It seems like Leon was always something of a bait and switch: with him being taken by the empire and the fourth slot remaining open for most of the story. The script I just mentioned does reveal his identity to the party very early on though, and even implies he was once a boss.
I don't know why but I really like this butthole, his unapologetic grab for the throne was great
He's pretty good as a character, just as a late-game statblock he comes very mediocre. You gotta appreciate anyone who has the balls to actually do something in the setting besides status-quo maintenance, and FF2 is a game where everyone gets fricked all the time.
you also get him so damn late (all you have left is the final dungeons) that he has like 1/2 of the stats as the rest of the party
The weak part really only applies for the remakes where they boosted stat gains and made HP boost periodically rather than by use like other stats. With the super high encounter rate and periodic increases the party gains about 3-5 times more HP than they do in the original version.
In the original NES/Famicom version he was about on par with your party at that point in the game in terms of HP and his stats were probably equal or higher in a most areas compared to your other characters at that point.
All the non-permanent party members are really weak in the remakes because of this, in the NES/Famicom version they're usually on par or slightly weaker than your other characters.
Was amarant actually hyped as an "ultimate badass" it's been several years since I last played IX but I don't remember that being the case
He's a vaguely implied threat for part of disc 2.
Queen Brahne hires them to track down Garnet and bring her back.
You fight his dumb, but hot, axe wielding "partner" on the road off of the mist continent.
Then he follows you to Eiko's village, kidnaps Eiko while you're worried about Kuja doing things, and then you kick his ass squarely.
No real build up, no Beatrix styled threatening encounters, no strong bosses or anything he one-shots on or off screen.
Just "go get her"
"Hi"
"you strong, me join".
I think the most "hype" building scene you could consider him to have is that in Treno, or somewhere, you walk off screen and then he walks on screen before it transitions away. That's it.
Yeh I thought so, nothing is shown/said to suggest he's extremely powerful. Plan on playing it again soon with that moguri mod, looks tight
I did this last year
Abuse the speed up to the fullest, you'll want it
Yeah sort of, he's a mysterious wanted man who's shown to be ruthless so he does come off as dangerous.
crazy because IX actually pulls this off for a little bit when Beatrix joins temporarily.
>that feel when you finally get to use the Beatrix powa
>that feel when later in the game when it dawns on you that Steiner passed her up a while ago
>that feel when you can buy God Save The Queen but no one can equip it
but you can throw it at Kuja
So Leon from ff2 sucks. Is that the only legitimate entry we've got for disappointing characters?
Gaar that was mentioned from BoF3 is a perfect example of that.
To a lesser degrer, pic related.
And here is the pic.
When he finally joins you his strength is worse than the hero or Carver and since you get Lizzie right after him there's really no purpose to ever use him in battles.
Trunks joins you?
I forgot if he was hype up in the game but he suck.
Kongol is very hype-adjacent. Almost every time you see him either you're about to die, about to get a new gimmick, or he gets a new gimmick. Unfortunately when he finally does join you he's now without any gimmick & even needs you to be guide-aware to get his dragoon form. I find him being a C-Minus grade damage dealer a lesser disappointment to him just not having anything else to bring to the table.
If you're heavily into buffing his speed then he's not all that bad. But yeah, he's not great as another disc2 joiner in a game that requires you to be active in order to build up your combos & dragoon form.
>character becomes weaker when they're revealed to be female
>including during cutscenes
Thinking Magus sucks is part of being blindly addicted to triple techs. No, don't even use the special item ones he's a part of. The only triple tech that's better than a dualtech and a max-level single tech is Lifeline.
>has the ability to change his skillsets on the fly, which only the protag himself can do
>has multiple unique gamebreaker abilities no one else can use
>never shows either of these in his boss fight
>is the mechanically weakest party member in the game both times he joins
>That design
Is he Light Yagami, the gay love child of Grffith & Guts?
he acts like Light
if you miss getting his Dragoon Spirit from the shop you can get it on Disc 4 after his plot fight in that disc.
>if you miss getting his Dragoon Spirit from the shop you can get it on Disc 4 after his plot fight in that disc.
Best to not forget it.
He's also voiced by Kira from Gundam SEED
only in the Japanese dub
>Amarant Sucks
>Chakra + Power Up = Cheap Healing
>No Mercy + Kaiser Knuckle = 9999 to Ozma
>Chocobo Sidequest gains access to aforementioned weapon far earlier than intended
>1 of 2 sources of Auto-Life
>1 of 2 sources of Return Magic
>Only front line melee assistance in Disc 2
>Exploiting the leveling system can overcome low Speed and Spirit drawbacks
>Magus sucks
>Has access to all Tier 2 spells
>Has access to higher end Dark spells
>Fills in gaps while Crono is gone
>Has vicious Triple Tech
Wut?
>... 10 seconds
until you get benched yeah
wait what? isnt dias based as shit
That's Bowman, anon.
He deals okay damage but his attacks are all pretty low hit and like no AoE's. Gotta get those stun frames.
The only downside to Magus is he has no double techs. Aside from that he's a really strong party member.
Should've had a playable Lani instead.
booba =/= good character
booba = good character
Magus is the key element of the coolest party
>Frog Crono Magus
>wasn't hyped
>joins early
>only kept around as Crono's onahole