He has the coolest story. Too bad he's just an ultbot
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why do these games need ults
true, look at tf2 and how much better it is than this piece of shit... one of the problems with modern gaming... ults, nah frick that
Ubers are ults you cannot change my mind on this
ubers are better than ults
>drop medic with 100% charge
>at BEST he drops down to 10% charge
>drop any gay with an ult
>they just respawn and ult
>look at tf2 and how much better it is than this piece of shit
lol
tf2 is fricking garbage and will be forgotten soon after this releases, even trannies will hop on the superior game
>swapping out airshots, mobility, reflects, engie shenanigans and spy shenanigans for...
>moba shit
>superior
You're right about the trannies though.
you don't understand the game if you think they couldn't make entire kits off of TF2 archetypes. there's already a rocket jumping hero and a demoman type being worked on.
>here's already a rocket jumping hero and a demoman type being worked on
You can already tell from that webm that they tried crippling the rocket jump movement. Plus we've already seen a few instances of them killing advanced mobility in the game. It makes sense for the kind of game they are making here. But it's clearly not TF2.
Plus I'm not holding my breath for anything they've merely tried working on. Basing claims of this being the superior game entirely on a what-if is moronic.
>they should have let people build up infinite speed by chain-punching the air for 0 stamina, something that's extremely trivial to macro
fixing the punch was not killing advanced mobility
If they cared about advanced mobility they would have simply made that a buyable ability instead of cutting it entirely.
In any case. I'll say they actually intend to make this thing a mobility shooter when they actually put such a mechanic in the game.
you can buy majestic leap, or superior stamina for triple jump + double airdash
>but that's not skilll based
wiener
Yeah that's not anything on the level of the kind of mobility tf2 allowed for.
have you considered different game?
heavy weapons guy doesn't have any mobility, so tf2 is not a movement based shooter.
all the mobility he needs, baby
where's the skill? he just uses an item? fricking lame
Go back to the earlier post where I pointed out that tf2 has a number of things going for it, not simply mobility.
>shooting people in the air
>moving
>stopping projectiles
>building turrets
>sneaking around
Most of these are class-specific in TF2, and there are heroes in Deadlock that already do these things. At the end of the day they are very different games, but Deadlock's weaknesses are not a lack of mechanics.
>Most of these are class-specific in TF2
That doesn't mean they aren't features of tf2.
>and there are heroes in Deadlock that already do these things
No they can't, your greetext was intentionally reductive for this very reason. You know damn well McGinnis's turrets isn't anything on the lines of what engie can do with his sentry. Or that there's more to an airshot than "shoot people in the air". Or that the kind of fun possible with spy goes beyond simply "sneaking around".
>McGinnis's turrets isn't anything on the lines of what engie can do with his sentry
Yeah they're far better for zone control/ratting and aren't hard countered by a sneeze.
>McGinnis's turrets isn't anything on the lines of what engie can do with his sentry.
okay this one is bullshit, can't believe you've actually played the game much at all if you posted this
they're better mini sentries, she can shit out 4 of them in a few seconds, and they inherit all of your damage items so they shred anyone who gets close before taking them out
No ranged repaired? Ranged recalls? Allowing you save them before they are destroyed last second? Manual controlling them, complete with a means to do a sentry rocket jump allowing for advanced mobility with them?
>wow she doesn't have EXACTLY the same toolset as engineer? fricking baby shit
okay uncle dane
40% of engineers drop a turret and laugh while sitting in the rancho relaxo, then either auto-win the game or die because an enemy knows how to charge an uber
>point out deadlock doesn't have tf2's engie shenanigans
>anon is shocked to discover I meant that deadlock doesn't have tf2's engie shenanigans
>40%
closer to 90%. and even if engineers were all doing crazy circue du sogay shit, those are all mechanics that didn't exist until years after launch.
>those are all mechanics that didn't exist until years after launch.
So, we're just basing the idea that the game is better on a what-if then? Instead of the game actually being better now?
because it is a scaling game and without strong abilities the strongest gun would just win 99% of the time
part of the kit design and adds to the game rather than take away
they dont
you can play a character that doesnt even need to ult if you want to
and people who like big ults can play ultbots
both existing in the same game is cool
Some characters are built on the premise of their ultimate ability, and can be the balancing factor to ensure they always scale well at certain points of the game.
There are plenty of "ults" that are just a somewhat strong ability on a long cooldown, instead of the Overwatch and League way where most ults are teamfight bing bong shaBANG shit. Not that there's anything wrong with those either but as always, IceFrog keeps it more interesting.
in this game most ults are shit, as in they do something that is slightly flashy but you could argue a regular ability would do
seven is the exception more than the rule, his ult literally 1v6s itself if positioned and built properly
The only Ult I would argue is just outright fricking bad is Haze's. Every other ult is fine. They don't need to do crazy shit.
i mean yeah i don't mean SHIT shit just that they aren't that far above regular abilities
well again except seven's
what about fat zenyatta
Haze’s ult is good because it works with silencer though.
Vindicta's is pretty bad too
I'd say Yamato's ult is quite horrible.
It feels insanely oppressive when it works and just a shitty ticket out of jail when it doesn't.
Feels like she needs a new ult.
Sex with Abrams
what do they need to add for it not to be barebones to you? 20 more heroes?
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198273550934/
I am going to shoot my shot again, because last time I didn't get one person to add me
You're a sharty, so no thank you.
In what way am I a sharty?
This homie added me in a thread yesterday lol
but you just said nobody added you, so which is it?
He's a moron that doesn't have the game either, but I figured if he got it he could share it with me. I still have not friended someone who has the game
And you accepted his invite. good luck getting anybody to invite a sharty sympathizer, even if you weren't one yourself.
I don't fully understand what sharty is. Should I understand friend him, will he give me a virus or something?
>And you accepted his invite. Good luck getting anybody to invite a sharty sympathizer, even if you weren't one yourself.
Jesus fricking christ, talk about insecurity.
I added him for the meme, guy's clueless about what sharty is and you are still stalking him.
Why not just take it out on me instead, troony?
What's a sharty?
>zoomer
>3 hours of dota
sorry kiddo this game aint for you
sent franequest
Interesting how I hear the opposite from the Surefour stack. They argue that the laning stage needs to be more punishing if you do bad and more rewarding if you do good. The implication is doing good or bad in lanes doesn’t matter too much.
i guarantee this guy has never played a game of dota in his life
There's three issues at hand here imo:
>1) Laning is too punishing for some heroes, while other heroes not only scale but they're also either decent or extremely good in lane, nearly guaranteeing a headstart that transforms into a very solid lead which transforms into faster items which transforms into the ability to spam clear camps and waves much faster
>2) Laning is also not rewarding enough if you do well, the problem here is qualifying what doing well means, kills? cs/denies? taking tower first? I feel like kills should reward way more while cs/denies feel just very slightly too rewarding because certain heroes just have absolutely insane guns, this is not dota where everyone has a right click and there's just variations of it, no, a lot of guns feel worlds apart
>3) Lane does not feel controllable enough which goes back to the 2 other points, if you're on a bad matchup you CAN play around it and lose tower and it's all expected to happen, some heroes just auto win it on similar skill level, but the lower impact is meant to allow you to NOT insta lose, at the same time, heroes that can hard bully and auto win lane can do so very easily which guarantees several things depending on skill levels, towers, power ups, camps and ganking
It's a really weird mix of not feeling rewarding enough when you DO good and feels even worse when you go against the odds and win a tough lane, yet also too easy to win with some heroes which rewards them just enough to exert that into the whole map while the loser is playing catch up because they picked a hero that doesn't auto win it and thus has to farm less effectively
I think they should
>add 2 neutral tier 1 camps to every lane, maybe one of those between two lanes
>early game guaranteed power ups drop from these camps, not from random box rng bullshit anymore
>add mechanics to control wave better, like allowing staggering your own creeps
>Increase kill souls reward, lower tower souls reward
rng souls is so stupid
it shouldn't be the optimal play to bumrush the roshpit and break all the jars in it
we need hard stats, too much theorycrafting. if it was a problem I feel like icefrog would have adjusted it by now, or perhaps it could come about in coming patches
>if it was a problem I feel like icefrog would have adjusted it by now
lol
I find it refreshing to be able to bounce back from a horrible laning phase, and it's rewarding enough when someone like seven wins their lane and begins the snowball.
because dota is an established game with an established competitive scene, we're in a dev build play test
>icefrog would have adjusted it by now
This is the same frog that made the comeback meta and allowed the zoo meta to happen for months.
just make boxes always drop like 25 souls
and idols always drop the same powers(different color idols or something)
Then the issue of bullies that scale remains where they can just take nearly every cs, take tower/hard push and then just rush all the rng consumable/souls shit while you're hugging tower because your hero genuinely cannot compete in that regard, making what was an almost equal match into one where the one pushing and hard harassing auto winning it every time.
Also I forgot to add something to this
LOW COST CONSUMABLES
100-350ish? souls consumables, or hell, 500 souls items that interact with waves.
I do agree you should be allowed to bounce back, but laning is also extremely ineffective despite being some of the most, if not most skill intensive phase of the game.
Hence why kills should be more rewarding, with better wave control, controlled power ups and maybe even consumables, while the already existing mobility options, not dying is very easy to do without sacrificing so much, yet dying doesn't feel THAT negative in lane.
In comparison, bomb rushing the frick out of some frick and hard poking while also csing because you picked the better laner is insanely effective because it now opens up the camps, consumables and ganking, eventually tower too and there's very little a lot of characters can do against this.
>but laning is also extremely ineffective
I disagree, objective taking is always beneficial in this game, it stops a lost teamfight from randomly flipping the game, and it's more than rewarding enough for hard carry characters to begin the snowball.
>why kills should be more rewarding
they made it more rewarding recently
>controlled powerups
no, we don't need river runes
>better wave controls
you can shoot enemy waves as they come in
>consumables
no thanks
You sound like you have 20 hours in game, everyone fricking knows about shooting enemy waves, it's not very effective in lane.
powerups
>no, we don't need river runes
Absolutely moronic opinion and this alone should get your post deleted
>you have 20 hours
I have 70
>it's not effective
it shouldn't be that effective to begin with, what's the point of introducing more wave control outside of "but dota did it!!!"
>ur moronic
not an argument.
>>it shouldn't be that effective to begin with, what's the point of introducing more wave control outside of "but dota did it!!!"
Strategizing, smart play, allows heroes that are not good in lane to actually fricking play, allows skill expression and other playstyles to emerge, another point of balance, etc, right now the meta is evolving to this
Just rushing the frick out of someone and then snowball because taking tower in combination with cs/drops, camps and ganks is way too effective when you do it in several lanes at once.
Dota is a 21 years old game, the grand majority of core mechanics are there for a reason
>Strategizing, smart play, skill expression
all subjective and simply amounts to "but dota did it". lanes would just get crushed even harder, river runes would simply favor the favored matchup more, etc.
pre-determined powerups is a must, IMO. It's just too random right now.
I'd also like to see limited ammo or something.
I want to see predetermined powerups in the new long tunnel they created. Would be like the Dota rune, which would be interesting seeing players fight for it.
By itself "winning" lane via kills doesn't mean much which is an oddity in this game, because pre 5:00 kills don't really put you much ahead in souls unless you line up a situation where you kill someone under their tower without falling below 50% HP.
The real way to win lane comes from winning through winning trades/harass every time and making the enemy lane play scared as shit and giving space to you, so that you can constantly push lane and get their tower down first, at which point you push other lanes to get the tower AP snowball. If you get 4 towers down and they have at most 1 tower, it's a huge snowball effect and not many players are cognizant of it at high MMR featured matches right now but the ones who are, are winning a lot more off of it.
>this is the main, most pressing gripe I have with the early game. If you pick a strong pushing lineup, you can pressure your opponents out of lane, take their towers, and be SIGNIFICANTLY ahead in terms of ability power, which (at least in early game) is arguably a more impactful measure of your teams strength.
>so that you can constantly push lane and get their tower down first, at which point you push other lanes to get the tower AP snowball.
>Deathball
There is something extremely fricking poetic about all of that.
I genuinely think that we can't give final judments on the laning too much currently.
A lot of it is predicated on the fact that the game randomly assigns you to lanes and you can't even draft a proper lineup yet.
On the contrary, I think that if you could organize lanes the problems would be even worse because it would allow you to pick and tear apart certain lanes.
Also a lot of high mmr matches are already doing that and just swapping lanes at the start.
, smart play, skill expression
>
>all subjective and simply amounts to "but dota did it"
I see, you're just completely moronic and just want to play OW/league, post hidden, don't even bother replying, not wasting anymore time.
I see, you're just completely moronic and just want to play dota 2, post hidden, don't even bother replying, not wasting anymore time.
>you just want to play dota
yes
people who like deadlock like that its dota but tps
if you want another kind of tps, go play another one
deadlock isn't dota tho, it doesn't need to mirror all the mechanics, and surely icefrog can come up with more intuitive mechanics instead of just porting dota stuff wholesale
anyone coming to an icefrog game with denies and bkb and black hole and saying "no that's dota" is a genuine moron
did you mean "no, that isn't dota"?
in any case, the way icefrog has made denying more intuitive points to what the objective for deadlock is, it's a brand new game willing to tool around with dota mechanics to make it more accessible. I don't see any strong reason to bring in river runes, and surely there are other solutions for wave control and laning phase instead of just....porting dota. if I wanted to play dota 2, I'd just play dota 2.
>thinks hes solved the game after 70 hours even in this alpha
lmao
if playtest opens fot EU players how am i going to get invited?
overwatch cc is more obnoxious than in this game, because there is no counterplay
Finally made a Deadlock image folder. Need your best stuff to fill it
ONE THOUSAND YEARS AGO...
SUPERSTITION AND THE SWORD RULED
What are they talking about?
right i'll make some ivy smut in 4 days
Slacker. Good shit.
i posted a few random thoughts on the dev forum
now where do i get my internet points
shut up Sarrow
I could listen to her saying spanish gremlin gibberish to me all day
mo&krill gays, teach me your ways...i can't get this dude to work....
Start 3 --> Sand blast enemy then run around and last hit then fall back.
Level 3 in lane for the +2 duration
After 1 level in 3, level 2 twice afterwards.
After this, you should start shoving waves hard and mostly jungling. Your 1 gives you sustain against medium neutrals, your 3 disarms then for more sustain, and your 2 is a huge AOE damage that fricks up jungle camps.
Farm Tempest Pulse and keep jungling. You can leap out at overextended enemies and ult them for free kills. Make sure to level your Ult twice for the +1s duration. After 2 in 2, 2 in 3, and 2 in your ult, work towards maxing out 2, the decreased cooldown and increased movement speed lets you frick people up.
After Tempest Pulse, you farm a lot and get Phantom Strike. You can now frick up anyone even remotely out of position. Make sure to let your teammates know who you're jumping on and ping them while you're jumping at them/ulting.
After this I love just tanking up. Buy fortitude. Buy Spirit Armor and Bullet Armor. You can even buy Unstoppable if you're balling out of control. Late game just run around like an insane butthole, constantly popping out of the ground and damaging in a huge AOE and jumping on overextended targets and beating the shit out of them with your ult. Use your 3 when you can catch their damage dealers and disarm them to really change the tide of fights. Spam 1 near enemy heroes to stay healed. gg.
thanks for the tips!
When does the nda lift so I can watch some matches?
How is Mo & Krill fair? Get to close and you're just stun locked into an attack where other heros can just show up and spitroast you
because they has no answers for people more than 3m away from them
phantom strike
They really went and said:
>things I'd like
1 soul per second, lower creep souls a tiny bit
creeps now prioritize melee attacks against towers making towers able to defend themselves more easily with AoE attacks while also letting the defending laners be able to CS with less risk if the other team is pushing every wave and harassing the enemy under their tower
+1 AP removed from towers/walkers, maybe experiment with either making them purchasable or making them come more from soul level ups, makes games less snowball/push meta focused
bounties where players with 600+ unsecured souls are marked for x amount of seconds and shown on the map
>take everything the game is doing different and turn it back into dota
exactly, this is about 75% of the complaints I hear about the game. it doesn't need to mirror dota. it's ok if the game isn't always decided in the first 10 minute laning phase, there's 4 lanes and 6 players.
>NO IT NEEDS TO BE LIKE DOTA IF I WIN THE LANE I WON THE GAME
>it's ok if the game isn't always decided in the first 10 minute laning phase
but that's how the game is right now though? when you play against people who play lane winning characters it's not uncommon to be 20k team souls vs enemy 10k before the 10 minute mark
objective push is just too strong and even yoshi and the devs are thinking about making different comeback mechanics to deal with that
>objective push is just too strong and even yoshi and the devs are thinking about making different comeback mechanics
increase turret damage to creeps so the pushers don't have an hour to hit tower, done
sounds like shit
MIKU GINNIS
Death to all Bebops.
https://vocaroo.com/16nqXE3unZkP
Her fight need to be dirtier. For realism's sake I mean lol
>her fight
her feet are already pretty frickin dirty, man
You lick clean feet. I lick feet clean
When I writing this I wrote "fight" again, I don't know why
theyre already 80% darker than her skintone bro
do you want them to look pitch black?
like theyre frickin charred?
is it just me or does it like like a risk of rain character
i wanna say just you. what makes you think of risk of rain?
any character that doesnt have a face is risk of rain
even though you can see seven's face from other angles
gonna be honest here
remove denies, it's not a fun mechanic in an fps
denying people like you is what makes it fun
guns are way to different for it to be balanced
that IS the balance moron
no that is imbalance
a 10 ammo hero can't possibly keep up with the 30+ machine gunners when it comes to lasthitting
do you also complain that nature prophet sucks at last hitting against sniper?
heroes in dota 2 have VERY similar bat, and having a fast projectile doesn't mean you have deny priority unless you also happen to have high attack damage which is the main decider in who gets the last hit
last hitting in this game requires 1 shot on a floating target regardless of what hero you are
if anything these soul balls should have health to so these machine gun Black folk can't snipe that shit with no consequence
>soul balls should have health
that is the worst suggestion I have had to read so far
>if anything these soul balls should have health to so these machine gun Black folk can't snipe that shit with no consequence
Go try out Bebop if you want to get mad, you can both last hit and deny instantly with absolutely zero counter play from 30 miles away and there's nothing the opponent can do.
All while being able to instantly nuke anyone DARING to move an inch from their cover (and even then hook very often goes through walls)
>(and even then hook very often goes through walls)
This reminds me, I was losing a game yesterday, I was in base at the shop and I got hooked through the fricking wall into my dying patron.
just posted my suggestion on the forums
good luck downvoting me troonies
remember me when the next patch hits
just made a post about last hit mechanics being feeling real good right now and me hoping that wont touch them anytime soon
NOOOOOOOO IT NEEDS TO BE EXACTLY LIKE DOTA 2
If you get denied out of lane in Dota, you go to another lane and try to catch up VIA kills. The game is young and people are still trying to figure it out.
it just feels very unintuitive, i don't remember any game feeling this bad
there's just too much shit going on and you can't process it all like in dota 2
i can't easily click a hero and see their items
i can't tell if their entire team is about to gank me
this feels like smite and that is not a good thing
>i can't easily click a hero and see their items
hold tab and mouse over
>i can't tell if their entire team is about to gank me
skill and communication issue
>hold tab and mouse over
let me just mouseover someone in the middle of a teamfight and find out whatever the frick that scribble of an icon with a I II III or IV is
yeah nah that aint it chief
>brand new to game
>wtf how was I supposed to know they could just ignore my ultimate
at least you'll remember that icon the next time
orange icon #43 doesn't exactly scream debuff immunity
Did you read the pop-up when the game starts?
yeah
no reason they can't use dota 2 icons for placeholders
they likely have at least twice the amount in-use just laying around somewhere
>no reason they can't use dota 2 icons for placeholders
These are the neon prime icons and shop design, the heroes open a book when shopping so the end result will probably be a better, more stylized version of something like this.
>let me just mouseover someone in the middle of a teamfight and find out whatever the frick that scribble of an icon with a I II III or IV is
>yeah nah that aint it chief
Bro most dota players aren't even capable of doing that during a team fight. Check it during downtime.
well i am
and if you don't, you at least have the option to learn
You're making this too complicated bro.
There are no TPs or smokes. If enemy heroes don't show on the map then play safe.
Hold tab for the items, you'll get used to it.
same for melee vs ranged in mobas, same for base attack time
balance =/= homogenization of ability/attacks
they should remove you from the playtest for saying that
found the fire Black person
What are best upgrades to make Haze's ult do damage? 99% of the time when I use it does piss damage and I just get killed
ring of repick
>99% of the time when I use it does piss damage and I just get killed
that's how it's supposed to work
if any of your ideas for changes just amount to "but it's like this in dota!!!!!" please stop. this isn't dota. I feel like you're more likely to kill interest in this game by just mirroring dota, and I don't play this game thinking "Gee, I wish this was more like the other game". do something new ffs
Where do I get a key to play this game?
You don't. Go play the better game instead(TF2).
when that ivy thing makes a death squeak it makes me hard.
i just want to take its head and stomp on it
ugly ass creature
>he reads moba lore
Gay moron thread do not reply
Just make the tier 1s stronger so they dont die so quick.
A tier 1 dying early is actually not that bad in a vacuum, it gives you a ton of breathing room and pretty much a free lane to farm.
The problem is everything that comes with that as the tier 1 dying means you're gonna be behind on souls, power ups and now the enemy is roaming and about to take another one or killing people.
Hence why adding more complexity to the laning so the better player can maneuver around it feels like something that MUST be done sooner or later.
>wave control
ok, you can hit your own creep pods as they're coming, done
God please don't make laning an autistic shitfest again
I like Deadlock because it's such a quick 5-10 minute romp
They already translated last hitting in an interesting way in a TPS
Just don't make it too punishing for losing a lane
And make tier 1s only give rewards after 2 out of 4 of them are destroyed
ez solutions
>tower damage to creeps increased to decrease the amount of time pushers have to kill tower
>you can now shoot your own creep pods for easier and intuitive wave control
done
They are marketing deadlock as an autistic, high strategy high mobility high speed game anon, even on the in game tutorial.
You should expect things to get EXTREMELY autistic in the future, this is just the start, do not expect things to get easier or remain as they are.
the last hit mechanics in deadlock are incredibly accessible, intuitive, and have convinced many people I know who would never touch dota to give it a shot. there's no reason to mirror dota mechanics, the "skill complexity" argument is just funny.
mirror dota mechanics 1:1, I mean
Just because it's not dota doesn't mean it won't be autistic, you're treating dota as a boogeyman here.
Fighting games are extremely autistic and have an insane amount of depth yet they're not dota.
Again, expect things to gain way more depth, if you don't like it then frick off.
I like dota. but again...if I wanted to play dota, I'd just play dota dude. icefrog is not stupid, I'm sure everyone at valve is cognizant of the "if this is just dota, why would anyone play this over dota". there should and needs to be differences.
don't bring up fighting games to me homie, I got more hours in them than you
Again with the dota boogeyman, why are you so fricking focused on dota?
The game will have depth and mechanics not from dota, don't expect it to stay like this.
>Again, expect things to gain way more depth, if you don't like it then frick off.
can't tell if you're strawmanning or simply illiterate...
speaking of the changing state of the game and certain mechanics, I witnessed a haze with extra stamina slide jumping around the map at high speed today.
Getting all the possible stamina bonuses legit makes the game feel like gunz
A shame theres no reliable animation cancelling though
>A shame theres no reliable animation cancelling though
Yamato has several but mostly just for abilities.
>makes the game feel like gunz
I wouldn't go that far yet. With the addition of the air down dash from the latest patch, it is getting closer though.
Adding more mobility items and maybe adding a move to maintain a bit more air mobility, like a wall jump or something, could really enhance the current movement options.
I think you can even do two air dashes now since they separated the front and side dashes
1. they are not marketing it as anything yet
2. they have been lightning fast about patching out autistic and moronic shit as soon as it gets posted in the discord
3. it's a fricking hero shooter, the ultimate babby genre.
>1. they are not marketing it as anything yet
Go play the tutorial, marketing might've been the wrong word but they have a very clear vision.
>2. they have been lightning fast about patching out autistic and moronic shit as soon as it gets posted in the discord
Yes, dash moving across the entire map is not balanced, that's broken, that doesn't mean depth is not gonna exist
>3. it's a fricking hero shooter, the ultimate babby genre.
It is not just a hero shooter, it's more asshomosexuals than shooter.
More importantly, TF2 basically started the modern genre and the game had plenty of depth if you actually used it, considering the game is being made by the same developer and clearly some of the old tf2 team you got a big heart break coming if you think this is remaining like it is.
they've said they're happy with 30 minute matches and again, the list of changes they've made to clean up unintuitive shit is a mile long already. the game will have depth but they are not going to turn it into pure autism like dota, the devs have already made it clear what direction they want to take the game with how the testing has gone. maybe read the discord and actually engage with the playtest
in the future you might want to read your response and think "hmm am i being a moron?", the answer in this case is definitely yes
>TF2 basically started the modern genre
delusional Pcbro
almost all the devs from tf2 and that era of half life and portal have left valve and joined teams that actually release games ; if you want to be known in the industry you need to show a portfolio of published work
ice frog begged a handful of developers who went to work on overwatch to come back
why do you think kelvin is a copy of mei or mcginuss a copy of zarya
>ice frog begged a handful of developers who went to work on overwatch to come back
you made this up
"This explains why so much Overwatch dev and 3d designer / animator suddenly join Valve for the last 4 years with the most notable move was Adrian Finol leaving Blizzard to rejoining Valve exactly 6 years ago"
Ahhh, so this is why they made a overwatchlike here, i see.
I don't remember mei being able to fly... or throw out bombs...
its not about how they play its the character design
pull up mcginuss and zarya and tell me thats not the same charcoal design
Anon, are you moronic?
nothing alike
not a single thing
not short hair muscle women holding big guns
the same big gun
nope not the same
Why did overwatch tracer teal from scout...
atleast they changed the gender
and the gun from a shotgun to dual machine pistols
At least the skill set ain't similar.
>short hair
it's tied up
>almost all the devs from tf2 and that era of half life and portal have left valve and joined teams that actually release games
just demonstrably not true. newbies at valve leave all the time but in the rare case that someone that's been around for almost 2 decades leaves it's either to retire or to leave temporarily before eventually coming back
the archetypes are entirely different even if their silhouettes are vaguely similar
mckginnis is a tom girl mechanic, a classic, if overplayed archetype. Her playstyle revolves around turrets and gadgets. Zarya is a butch russian nationalist (literal nonsense) with a giant laser gun, and her playstyle revolves around taking damage to power up said laser gun.
Miku Guinness has long hair tho
McGinnis works for a living whereas Zarya is some tumblr dyke. Zarya is probably the worst looking character in Overwatch.
The difference e is that mcGuinness is a cutie and the pink haired lady isn't
she looks like portal 1 chell
Mcginnis and zarya look nothing alike
???? the frick are you talking about LMAO those toons play nothing alike
well you see... one... wears a coat!
and the other... has a big gun!
Robin Walker and John Cook are the only TF devs that matter and Robin is allegedly involved in Deadlock (which i believe fully because there's tf2 references everywhere)
yes, thats why the game has no mana for example, moron
>autistic, high strategy high mobility high speed game
aka DOA
Its not an arena shooter though kek
>Its not an arena shooter though
yet
Locked
>it's such a quick 5-10 minute romp
Anon, you should have figured out already that games are only ending quickly because the abundance of players not knowing what they are doing resulting in a lot of deaths and free souls.
Who should i play if i enjoy Lady Geist's bomb build? I play at 225 latency so i need to play spirit characters as shooting seems iffy at best
I think a bigger reason is that people dont have to deal with the weird ass turn rates and bats dota has in deadlock
TPS lends to sleeker and sensible ganeplay
I don't play mobas, what are the deny mechanics in this game? Just shooting the baloons?
yeah, shooting the orange soul balloons before your enemy can secure them, and shooting your own so that the enemy can't steal them from you
Helping peoples what I do!
Just push the shops further back you idiots
The problem is that players are able to immediately translate a minor soul advantage into items in lane which make a drastic difference in the early game
Make buying the first item a bigger opportunity cost
would just wreck characters with crappy laning phase even more
Frick no that sounds terrible, now you can't itemize effectively against fricked up lanes while the dumb early game heroes get even dumber.
what did this autist see in this ugly goblin thing
you wouldn't get it
she looks ugly to you?
>Valve working on new game
>another asshomosexuals
it's the first fun asshomosexuals
but its not L4D3 or Ricochet 2, or Alien Swarm 2.
>L4D moba
Sounds kino
https://store.steampowered.com/app/563560/Alien_Swarm_Reactive_Drop/
alien swarm 2 already exists thoughbeit
RELEASE HOLLIDAY
RELEASE SHIV
THEY'RE ALREADY FRICKING READY TO GO
so you can't get a key anymore...?
this has to be repeated every thread like a buddhist mantra
valve has changed the requirements to be a potential playtester, you need to be someone who's been on a playtesters friendslist for 30 days to be recommended.
I was unlucky, I didn't get on any of the deadwiener key discord servers in time. I'm added to 2 playtesters but I have to wait 30 days to get it, and theres quite a likely chance the testing will end within a month.
nah, the testing is going to keep going for a long time, perhaps years until the game reaches open beta
whether or not they decide they have reached a high enough number of playtesters and decide to halt invitations is another thing
>shitters theorycrafting and thinking that the game should be babymode because they suck
heh
>shitters want whole dota 2 mechanics ported because they don't want to learn a new game
heh
The game already has more engaging mechanics than Dota. You are getting snowballed because you can't aim lmao
>time your last hits
>manage your ammo so you can steal last hits
>coordinate with your lane partner
>rotate if you're getting shitted on
Git gud
>you are getting snowballed
I'm usually winning, I legitimately do not see any point in porting dota 2 mechanics because....they were in dota 2. it's a new game with a new design philosophy, do something different.
i've already posted things I'd like to see them change to address the wave control and laning phase ->
river runes I just refuse to address, I don't see how that would benefit the game or how that would work with 4 lanes. control of the randomized boxes feels nice enough, perhaps they could just extend the powerup duration time a bit.
It's already 90% dota, including the usual complete lack of macro skills and strategy from the target audience.
They join a game with parrying, air dashing, double/triple jumping, stamina bars, animation cancels, dash canceling, dash specific bonuses, shooting, headshots, denying, cs, item, item counters, jungling, bosses, specific buffs, hero specific balancing, CC, towers, objectives, ratting, even the fricking zipline has specific speeds meaning you will interact even with that in the future lmao.
And then they expect things to not get even more autistic.
Genuine moronation, can't wait for these homosexuals to get filtered.
Can a dotabro tell me if there's premades in that game? In counter strike there allowed and they are rage inducing to play versus. Will icefrog allow them in this game?
>grrrr this is just another moba game it's unoriginal and overly-competitive asshomosexual slop even if it is much easier to get into and seems very well suited to people who are bored or otherwise turned off by mobas
>grrrr this isn't a real moba this is too arcadey it's a hero shooter and it's like overwatch/valorant even if it from the looks of things eliminates the bullshit elements of those games especially overwatch 2 with its battlepass
which one is it
it's a perfect hybrid which manages to piss off both sides
its neither
its a entirely new genre i like calling "deadsloplike"
It's a mix of two things that plenty of people simultaneously hate at the same time.
Boy, you can really tell who is actually playing the game and who is just spectating matches and living vicariously through their favorite e-celeb "leet" player.
Decided to answer my own question
Haze Bullet Dance damage numbers: Single target testing. Numbers have small variable of mostly 2-3 damage. Fixation unupgraded and allowed to reset each time
No upgrades: 460
500
Headshot booster: 474 (gun dance does not headheadshot)
Close quarters: 534
Hollow Point Ward: 592
Conclusions: HPW best for pure damage but too conditional so CQ best for early game Haze
1.2k
Swift Striker: 497
Slowing Bullets: 517
Kinetic dash (after jump-dash): 684
Conclusions: Swift striker is garbage; slowing bullets is great on haze but kinetic dash gives best damage
3k
Burst fire: 493
Escalating Resilience: 526
Hunter's Aura: 656
Intensifying magazine: 541
Point blank: 588
Titanic Mag: 532
Conclusions: Hunter's Aura gives biggest damage boost. Stuff like burst fire and IM may improve when dance duration extended
6.5k
Crippling Headshot: 563
Glass Cannon: 657
Inhibitor: 575
Lucky shot: 550
Siphon Bullets: 610 (with an additional 120 spirit damage,)
Vampiric Burst: 550 unactivated, 773 activated
Conclusion: With the amazing lifesteal and highest damage, VB seems best for maxing out Gundance effectiveness
Nice research anon.
Thanks for responding.
https://voca.ro/1ouji2vbcf8Q
why does mcginnis look cute here but looks like a 50 year old mexican grandma in game
concept art vs alpha model
because you find danger hair cute?
praying she ends up like her comic depiction
yamato and mcginnis are having a pint of guinness while mcginnis is wearing a miku wig
It's incredible how Valve has always been 0 fricks about how accents actually sound like so they end up being really funny and endearing while other studios care so much about their characters not being racist that they end up being the most racist flanderization possible.
Literally dev voiceovers that will be replaced by "professional" DEI ones
Nah, I can recognize some Dota 2 VAs already.
It's a fact that SBI is just an extortion racket that demands millions in "consulting fees" else they'll use media hit pieces to label companies as racist
But Valve has infinite money.
Pic related is probably how their meetings went.
they have a number of voice actors already like john lowrie and elle newlands voicing their characters
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/f/f5/Vo_dark_seer_dkseer_kill_01.mp3/revision/latest?cb=20201010200355
Guinness - the official drink of Deadwiener.
STOP DEATHBALLING AND ACTING SURPRISED WHEN WERE SUDDENLY BEHIND IN SOULS LMAO
WHAT THE FRICK THE ENEMY ISNT GOING TO STACK UP JUST BECAUSE WE DID TOO
I've won enough now that if I show up for 1 micro second on the map farming I'll instantly have 3-4 Black folk on my ass.
Can't comfy farm anymore.
yeah i did a stint of bebop games having 20+ kills and now i can't win anymore kek
At the moment whenever I see everyone gathering up at a single lane I feel like I'm supposed to join them. Is that actually smart or should I be sticking with the other lanes?
DEPENDS
coordinate with your team. Making space for someone who scales hard or needs to hit a power spike is a good strat especially if your team doesn't need everyone to win a fight
this, even if i know deathballing isn't the play, is it better for me to apes together strong and execute a shitty plan well, or should i just let my team fight with a disadvantage and farm for the future
It's not smart. You're wasting time not farming jg around the map and minions are dying being unfarmed. Your teammates shouldn't be fighting while people are side laning if the enemy team is grouped together. So it's is almost always your teams fault if they get wiped while you aren't there. Obviously if you are so far ahead you can just end the game or take objectives you should not keep side laning
Why he lookin like
trust the plan, the models are all in very weird stages
bebop looks fully completed (?) but others look like roblox models.
You can see Bebop's final design in the portrait, current model still has scifi laser eyes and a beak.
that's probably because the bebop in the playtest I assume is an older design from previous game renditions?
I think this game is actually in a earlier stage of development than I first thought. I think Valve has only just agreed upon a story and an aesthetic, and the heroes that look detailed are being pulled by the earlier renditions, and the more shitty models are characters created specifically for this story. Ivys mouth isn't animated. Atlas's coat clips and is awful and terribly undetailed. Shit like that.
They need to make ivy's feet and soles more detailed
They need some get down mr president archetype characters and just better early roamers.
These meme lane bullies honestly won't survive a bigger character pool.
Shop being near lane is a bad idea and dota dealt with the same problem already. Impossible to have good laning balance without having some opportunity cost to scaling.
shop being near lane is already dangerous, I've gotten plenty of kills with characters that can toss nades
yeah and the fact that you can just walk around and backstab them
why can't I just pick talon
I wanna play talon
only talon, no one else
Do people fight over talon? I think if you right click to favorite him you'll probably get him all of the time, gotta be like the 2nd or 3rd least popular hero.
nah hes in every fricking game
bebop, pocket, paradox, grey talon
hispanic new york accents are my new favouirte accents
>seven
>ultbot
sir redeem the yellow items and quicksilver rounds, be sure to put it on your first skill too!
why kill three guys by being skilled when I can kill 5 guys by getting lucky while my team distracts the enemy
3rd skill + tesla + ricochet (this item keeps ALL modifiers on whoever the bullets bounce on btw) = same results, while still being cooler. Truthfully I love his ult too but that's a side effect of Seven being based.
I want an invite so bad bros
maybe try to send an email to gabe newell himself where you proclaim your burning desire to be included in the playtest and he might just send you an invite code
or he will just read the email and laugh at you
it could go either way i guess
Tell him you love Sand King, it's his favorite Dota 2 hero
when are they adding rubick
Reverse Rubick
>swap latest skill used by enemy for the latest spell used by a random teammate in an aoe
forum guy is right where is my aghs scepter
Do we have a list of the VAs yet?
no, any list is just going off recognition
like Lowrie is Bebop and Dynamo. mmmaybe male patron too. Female could be McLaine
Andrew Bowen is Lash because that is just Johnny Cage
Canon.
>only the most recently saved loadout appears correctly once the game starts
>if I dont get my preferred hero I lose my saved build and have to play blind.
FIXDEADLOCK
fixtf2 really is childish
I hope it doesn't ruin this game because I think this game has potential to be fun, genuinely.
oh yeah pushing in 1 out of 4 lines for 40 minutes sounds so fun.. when you could be rocket jumping, putting down perfect turrets, sneak around as spy, and more, in a better game, known as tf2.
Yeah, pushing a line sounds like something for fricking morons.
Well yeah payload does suck. Wouldn't want to play a game where lane pushing was the only gamemode.
>payload does suck
You're not a real tf2 fan. Go back to idle farming hats Black person
>You're not a real tf2 fan
I do think tf2gays are idiots if that is what you mean. Deadlockgays aren't proving to be any better though.
>I hope it doesn't ruin this game
TF2 trannies don't even have enough people to play their own game, what could they possible do lmao
>you haven't fixed my 17 year old game because you're working on all this new shit like any other company would, I must REVIEW BOMB
but no you're right this will pass, it always does.
>I must REVIEW BOMB
The bots are a legitimate criticism to be had of the game. Shouldn't that warrant a negative review?
>review bombing deadlock for tf2's bot problem
>review bombing deadlock
What the frick are you talking about?
there's an embarrassing redditor "promise" that when deadlock comes out they will bombard it with bad reviews because that will show 'em
the bots are overstated and also not a problem if you don't play matchmaking.
TF2 warranted negative reviews when it got matchmaking but no one seemed to realize just how bad it was for the game. Now lay on the bed you made.
So your problem isn't actually that they review bombed. But that they didn't do it sooner?
>but no one seemed to realize just how bad it was for the game
Meet Your Match was the one point where basically fricking everyone agreed valve had fricked up. If anything the problem was people not seeing the problem before then.
That shit already fizzled out and redditards are eating each other.
so, is the game just dota2 in 3rd person?
Is it actually good?
how long does the matches last?
does it required the same amount of effort to learn as dota2?
>so, is the game just dota2 in 3rd person?
no its more casual and fun
>Is it actually good?
yes
>how long does the matches last?
they can last anywhere from 10 mins to over 1 hour
>does it required the same amount of effort to learn as dota2?
no, but it might change if they make it more complex, which seems unlikely to me. it seems to me like they are purposefully going for a less complex moba
>they can last anywhere from 10 mins to over 1 hour
>anywhere from 20-40 min
1 hour is a little much but i guess something like up to half an hour would be good. Ill check it out when i get a new pc
they rarely go up to an hour
like 70% of the time it will be 20-30 mins 20% 30-40
kinda
yes
anywhere from 20-40 min
nope, I'm a CSgay and I'm doing well already
Probably? Can't really answer this one.
Yeh
30~40 minutes
Compared to league? Not that much.
league has complexity?
I only have 30 minutes or so in Dota, and don't remember anything. I just base my moba knowledge around league which I played more extensively.
>I do think tf2gays are idiots if that is what you mean. Deadlockgays aren't proving to be any better though.
Deadlock is literally one of the "original" valve games even if it's just tps dota
>team fortress is a quake mod
>counter strike is a half life mod
>portal is narbacular drop
>DoD is a half life mod
>alien swarm (rip) is an ut2004 mod
>dota is a wc3 mod
get a load of ricky morono over here
alien swarm was so fricking fun. I liked it better than helldivers.
Pretty nice but I see a nipple
advertisers won't like it
asscleavage is tasteful, the blueboarders will understand.
Realistically thinking here. If a team has a cheater, how much of an impact would that cheater even have? I feel like cheaters would have a horrible time in this game. Like, getting CC'd to death and dealing with metal skin where your aimbot is useless.
still have an advantage with auto headshot and wallhacks, but it's certainly not as bad as CS autoheadshots
Idk... there's a couple of ex pro players with absurd aim and this is paired with their game sense from their past experience going pro and the skill gap doesn't feel that crazy. Like, it's not like these players with crazy aim are constantly carrying games having high K/D and just going bat crazy.
It honestly feels the opposite where I often see little impact from them. Do I think if they had perfect aim paired with wall hacks make that much of a difference in results? Eh, I never felt that way. I felt like the difference in how well they do is all about decision making. We all know cheaters aren't gonna be these experienced players, it's gonna be the opposite.
the players with perfect aim are being placed in high-skill games while cheaters will predominantly be in low-skill, where people make bad decisions and can't aim
>while cheaters will predominantly be in low-skill, where people make bad decisions and can't aim
The reason why people lose a lot in low rank is because the team is uncoordinated and no one knows what the frick they're doing. Having one player with cheats won't suddenly carry shitty teammates. The other team that is more coordinated will still win.
headshots do 2x damage and there are a handful of heroes that lean into reliably landing headshots to do burst damage with their main guns. 1 cheater using aimbot with such a hero will be very noticeable. also the usual wallhacking shit. this game is not impervious to cheating.
Don't forget how broken aimbots are going to be when it comes to denials.
Thankfully due to region allocated servers I won't have to play with subhuman russians or brown third worlders.
headshots still do 2x gun damage
but seeing as its a moba and theres a lot of items to shut down a cheater, so it wont be as bad as other games
If someone has proper gamesense and is cheating they're going to have a pretty big advantage, headshots double your damage and metal skin only lasts for three seconds. They won't instant-win the game but it's more of an issue than in dota for sure.
>autoparry
>headshots
>wallhacks
It's time for valve to stop being cucks and implement rootkit anti cheats
they should license vanguard for this game, we need a proper anticheat not that vac shit
I think you'd be able to fakeout an autoparry script but they'd still be scoring perfect headshots on you the whole time you're close so you'd still die
No, go play your chink slop.
>JEWBEN WILL LOOK AT MY SADPANDA HISTORY IF THERE IS AN ACTUAL ANTI CHEAT
Already does https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/steam
>MUH TROONIX
Good riddance
see
kys
>he doesn't realize that vac is a good thing because it segregates shitskins from white people on faceit
sending this to the feedback forum so ivy looks like this
Black person's favorite hero
zoomers tend to play haze and infernus for some reason
I love you, papi.
Yeah, we're deadlockin'.
Is there a way to disable abilities in Sandbox? I want to damage test Haze without fixation. Please answer
I gotta say I'm not an ivy gay but this one's speaking to me
fricking wiener sucking drones
i hope this game gets botted to hell and back and is never fixed just to show you that valve doesn't care about gameplay, only money
you sound like that toy story 3 teddy bear
Deadlock won
>#stopplayingquickplay
don't come fricking crying to us then when the bot hosters invade this game on day 1 with no way to stop them because valve refuses to do anything
Are aim bots a massive problem in CS2?
Answer honestly.
idk but every time i turn a corner i get 1 shot which pisses me off
NTA and I don't play CS2, but from what I gather, yes.
People crying wolf are far more numerous than actual cheaters and it's nothing new, I lost count of the amount of times I've been accused of cheating.
lol same
I feel like people complaining about cheaters are just a bunch of silvers with zero game sense. I can count on my fingers how many times I spotted an actual cheating homosexual.
whatever helps you sleep at night little buddy
>moronic bots I can farm for free mmr
thanks bro
>DAH BOT HOOOSTERS WILL WHIP OUT THEIR BBC (BIG BOTTED wiener) AND RAPE YOUR GAME I PROMISE!!!!!!!!!
This is how you sound like btw
>when you get cuckold fetishes from a edgy russian teenage hacker
the absolute state, very sad.
no one cares about your troony game, go "protest" somewhere else
You found out that just now? Where were you when Mannconomy dropped 14 years ago?
>HOW FRICKING DARE YOU MAKE A SENSIBLE FINANCIAL MOVE
Protesting other valve games won't fix your game, if anything they'll just hate you for it
youre a spoiled brat who been given more than anyones ever got and now that theyre doing something different youre throwing a tantrum that its not going your way.
you are pathetic
i dont care that this is bait i want the actual asshats to see this
>and now that they're doing something different
They switched from caring about tf2 to only caring about ASShomosexualS over a decade ago.
>game they already did but now third person
>something different
la criatura duende con el pesado culo de piedra...
good details. your linework and anatomy are kino for a sketch
learning traditional antatomy and figure drawing so I can make ivy art all day everyday
I'm going to ENJOY deadlock.
I'm gonna PLAY it and have FUN.
I am going to ENJOY playing a VIDEO GAME and you can't fricking stop me.
>11 of my bots are in your game
what now pissboy?
you won't do shit, pussy
this ain't antiquated code, boy.
as if valve would genuinely waste man hours and money installing brand new antibots for older games, it's just not good business.
You're only getting 6 bots in a game if they all queue together, and they'll be put up against 6 real players who also queued together.
Bots can't strategize worth shit so they lose and get reported afterwards.
Maybe if you keep whining you'll get more Christmas maps this year.
farm my items and faceroll your bots that don't understand objectives or agriculture, thanks for the free win bro
Reminder that you only need one bot to frick a game up because this genre is not designed to handle losing a player slot to a bot.
moving goalposts from 11 bots
what's your answer to the bots being flagged within 3 games as bots and having to make a new account? because if it does become a serious problem valve can just force the first few games to be bot matches like in paladins and filter new bot accounts before they're even allowed to queue
>moving goalposts from 11 bots
I wasn't that anon. Hence why I responded to him as well.
>what's your answer to the bots being flagged within 3 games as bots and having to make a new account?
Whatever solution you have is something they probably should have done for tf2. So we should probably assume they think that's a lot of work.
Because no one cared to bot dota2.
>Because no one cared to bot dota2.
it has what? 4 times the player base then tf2? Frick man are you even trying at this point.
>Does he need to make extra steps to get it working?
Thats what I heard, I dont have a deck but I heard that it by default wont connect to match making,
>it has what? 4 times the player base then tf2
So four times the work to bot effectively then?
Yes, and 4x the amount of people that would care enough to make bots by that logic.
technically it has more like 400 times the player base since nearly all the tf2 players were bots of some kind
People do bot dota 2, in bot vs bot lobbies to farm for account levels, so they can sell the accounts to people who get banned.
You'll never see one in-game because they get reported if they play vs other players, so they set their language to Japanese and queue on South Africa servers.
>Whatever solution you have is something they probably should have done for TF2.
They could easily filter bots out of Competitive matchmaking, but comp died right out of the gate. Default matchmaking for Dota/Deadlock is the same as competitive matchmaking but without the number being visible in unranked.
>People do bot dota 2, in bot vs bot lobbies to farm for account levels
So, There will be bots in my deadlock games I will just never see them and they will never ruin my games got it
do smurves ruin your games maybe? then think about this
bot developers will use the bots to train accounts for a smurf so he can go and ruin your game faster
maybe they will ruin your game then??
smurfs either get caught or end up back at the rank they were before
>You'll never see one in-game because they get reported if they play vs other players
This is just raising the question that if it's this easy why has it been a problem for tf2.
Because bots can mass join an in progress TF2 game and kick real players by outnumbering them.
>Because bots can mass join an in progress TF2 game
Then report them as bots. The logic were working under here is that is all it takes.
> and kick real players by outnumbering them.
Again, you've already fricked a deadlock game by having a single bot join.
I have yet to have a single bot in any of my dota 2 games in over 2k hours of play over the past 12 or so years.
Your strawman has failed you TF2ranny, And I say this as someone with over 600 hours of TF2, but its time to stop playing quick play. With the source code leaked the bots are never going away
just another half-hour
who the fufck is designing these characters?Battleborn tier characters
same guy probably who designed the mostly very forgettable dota 2 characters
but we have a goblina girl, so it's okay, redeemed.
I invited my friend but forgot he plays on a fricking deck. Does it work on that thing?
why wouldnt it?
it does, match making is wacky though
How is it wacky? Does he need to make extra steps to get it working?
>mfw deadwiener has decent, newly built anticheat and redditors think this is an insult to the tf2 "community"
>mfw steam does a promo event for deadlock on tf2
As a TF2-fan who is enjoying Deadlock, I'd like it.
I would to. I like TF2, I still play TF2. I just have a logical brain.
I played 10 casual matches in a row yesterday and there wasn't a match full of bots.
Tf2 is fun, and I'd enjoy a deadlock promo. But the idea of it making redditors mad make me laugh.
I think most people who mock TF2 fans are people who still enjoy TF2 the game and are just annoyed by current TF2 goobers being loud and annoying (and about something they could largely fix themselves)
No, I really hate TF2gays. The people who play this game nowadays and make it part of their personalities are the kind that should be on a mental asylum.
forcing tf2 fans to buy the promo ivy hat
>trannies try to bot deadlock
>gabe doesn't frick around with new ip
>gets them into gay rape prison like the guy who leaked beta hl2
lol
>You know what? I'll employ the hackers who are attempting to bot deadlock. They can work on tf2 and fix it themselves
>Did you seriously think I was gonna employ you? Yeah, you are getting sued. Pay up bucko.
tf2 trannies absolutely seething
Ivy? Yeah it's G-Fat.
I have an important trask for you.
>ivy troons
>tf2 troons
shit thread
I'm a 6'2 lunk and when I go to the gym I think of Ivy.
We are not the same.
I hate trannies and I love ivy
5 minutes homies
if I make a point here and then make that same point on the forums, or mention my build guide here will I get banned from the game if someone catches me?
Has anyone actually gotten their access revoked?
It has happened numerous times, unfortunately.
if they were trying to filter out channers, yoshi would have never talked directly to a discord guy named moot
This is how you are supposed to do it
>for example you want to post a screenshot
>post it in discord FIRST and then right after post it here
>0 proofs that you were the one who posted it, can't be banned
why is the interest in the game dead already?
it hasn't been announced yet and it's in closed alpha
tf2 players are turned off by the moba elements or think that it's overwatch, and no one outside of Ganker or the scorned tf2 community know it exists
I will play Mcginnis and lose yet another match because our Infernus goes 0/11 on the laning phase
>on the laning phase
>on
you deserve it brain dead zoomer
*baseless claim*
>too bad he's just an ultibot
In the end he should build towards his ult swinging the game sure but he actually has some nice things going for him other than pressing 4
>a nice easy to use rifle
>a baked-in stun
>HUGE long lasting projectiles for area denial
>chain lightning on all of his shots that only gets stronger as his spirit damage gets cartoonishly high letting him output good ability and M1 damage
i often contribute to teamfights just by throwing out a good lightning ball at the right place, swoocing in to stun a priority or just tracking gud
the idea that a character with a multi stun and a god tier poke is bad is just funny to me
matchmaking starting
lets fricking go
games will be fun again and you will like it
You know what there ISN'T demand for? A third person competitive MOBA that is so painfully out of touch that as soon as I got access to the closed beta test. I IMMEDIATELY had to show a few people on discord can you BELIEVE this is what Valve is working on right now. A Pvp game that will GUARUNTEE be botted to death and full of cheater on week one because valve refuses to tackle the problem. And pretends that it's not an INDUSTRY wide issue that is actively killing off an entire genre. Now if I knew that one of the people that I was showing deadlock gameplay to was gonna secretly record my stream and pass it around without my knowledge then I probably would have been a bit more careful with your secret game. But look I was frustrated and so is everyone else that loves Team Fortress 2 that's the point. The priorities are in the wrong place! I used to be such a huge fan of you Valve. And I'm sure you've been hearing that sentence a lot over the past decade so my suggestion, if you're even interested in hearing a customers suggestion. Is to focus on REPAIRING the stuff that you have, before moving on to creating new things on their foundations because these foundations are ROTTING away. You're currently putting a lot of time and effort into a NEW multiplayer videogame? And that's great, but, all of that time will have been wasted, if you don't clean up the slot it's going to fill first. Games like Team Fortress 2 are in danger of going extinct due to sheer INACTION and it REALLY sucks to see. So please, Valve, do something about it do something about Team Fortress 2. I'm sure you and I would love to look back on this game in 50 years and think. "Man, that game was awesome." But the way it's been going, uh, what we're going to end up thinking instead will be. "Man, that game was awesome, it sucks what happened to it though..." It's always going to have that sour ending attached to it, that's what people will remember.
We can't promote and use community servers because... Because... We just can't, okay???
>We can't promote and use community servers because... Because... We just can't, okay???
Uncle Dane literally runs and promotes community servers.
>class limits
anti community servers
then whats his problem
His problem is he got banned from the playtest for leaking and is channeling his anger towards Valve by hiding behind FixTF2
Ding ding ding ding
He still doesn't like that the main way to play the game is flooded with bots? You're allowed to run community servers and still think valve shouldn't be allowing that shit.
But he doesn't like the "main way" to play the game? Uncletopia is casual without the fun.
>Valve shouldn't be allowing that shit.
Valve shouldn't waste resources on something which I'm sorry to say isn't really much of a problem. How much revenue does TF2 generate for Valve? Zilch.
>Valve shouldn't waste resources on something which I'm sorry to say isn't really much of a problem. How much revenue does TF2 generate for Valve? Zilch.
Even in this thread we've had people arguing that bots are actually really easy to deal with, via arguing why they won't be a problem for deadlock. Can't have it both ways.
In any case arguing that a dev should only ever act out of financial interest and not actually care about the games they make is peak soulless. Don't see how you think Deadlock isn't going to go to shit if this is how you're convinced valve thinks.
>Can't have it both ways.
So you want Valve to implement this anticheat, which is usually tailor made for a game and individual to each one, to older games?
Should they do it for Day of Defeat as well? Half Life 2 Deathmatch?
This is just logical business thinking. You don't invest in something if there is no benefit, you people keep thinking that TF2 is somehow growing when it isn't, and that this is all for the "new players" all this "pwease distract yourself from new shit and save game pls think about the HISTORY" is dumb.
>the main way to play the game
and that's a bad thing
matchmaking wasn't a launch feature and just made the game worse, it's what enabled this current issue in the first place. if valve should do anything they should get rid of it
He doesnt like community servers that arent in his little circle jerk because they are "toxic" and play the game wrong
Terminal TF2 trannism
So does Shounic, and unlike Dane, Shounic instead of pandering to a bunch of lazy weirdos who bizarrely think casual is the only true TF2 experience has advocated for making the most out of community servers- repeatedly
you already posted this, also 41%
You gays couldn't see a joke if it was smashed into your face. It's from the uncle dane video where he's seething about Deadlock.
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I'm not gonna memorize an entire rant by a seething cuckold. Should have posted an image of uncle dane being fat or bald.
yeah i dont know who this is, im not going to recognize some moron dribble just from punctuation and some tf2 headshot that means nothing to me. but sure i'm a gay because i dont know a popular tf2 youtuber.. LMAO
still not caring
this but unironically
they hated him because he spoke the truth
but none of that is the truth
this game is for me
are saving builds still fricked
679810768
nice blogpost homosexual, not gonna read it
Is Haze worth maining?
Also should you get fixation or sleep dagger first?
Fixation since it also buffs your ult
>excited to play
>get tired as frick since its midnight
rinse and repeat every weekend
frick you valve
dead on arrival moba slop
if you want a moba, go play dota or league of legends
if you want a shooter go play overwatch or apex legends
this game is for no one
whoa thats crazy cause everyone ive invited and myself have enjoyed it immensely, sucks to suck I guess
dead on arrival rts slop
if you want to play a rts, go play starcraft or warcraft
if you want to play a rpg, go play final fantasy or chrono trigger
dota is for no one.
theres 2.1 million people playing cs2 and dota2
even if they only get %5 of players from that thats 100,000 players making it the tenth most played game on steam
this game cant fail, its free, its going to be promoted by valve and print money with skins/boxes
>this game cant fail
>its free
Will it be? Certain cosmetics appear to be free.
Why isn't Ivy british?
No thanks. I like my noo yoikuh latina goblina the way she is.
every valve game is free dude
why charge an upfront free when whales will pay +$500 to play dress up
To be fair dota 2s cosmetics cost literally nothing compared to the tf2 market.
They used to, but valve completely fricked it over.
Items used to be treated like tf2 items and had some worth to them but the insane drops of marketable items and then valve restrictions completely ass fricked the economy.
all shitted and flopped
yup sticking with 'ock
>NOOOOO IT CAN'T HAVE MOBA ELEMENTS AND HERO SHOOTER ELEMENTS IT HAS TO HAVE A DEFINITE GAME GENRE AAAAGHHH MY HEAD HURTS
it's fun
Ivygays.. what if the goblina never existed in this game. would you still be interested in playing deadlock?
They'd all be vindictasscholars btw.
If Ivy was cut I'd be upset but she looks like she's too deeply set in stone to be removed from the game.
I'd be interested, but not as interested
Half the reason I decided to sack up and ask for a code in the first place was to play Ivy to be quite tbh
How the frick do you play Vindicta in this game? Everyone is so fricking fast and all the fights happen in close quarters. The moment you press 4 everyone turns into doped rats slamming shift like their life depends on it.
have frontliners distracting the enemy while you're way way way in the back
you go to the forums and beg yoshi to remove the 1 second charge timer on the ult
or you dont play her at all
>How the frick do you play Vindicta in this game?
you select grey talon on the heroes screen
Vindicta? More like Vingeta
recently got muh beta access, is spirit damage = ability damage? what the frick are the purple items for? Am I right?
Kinda yes but it's more complicated as some abilities scale off spirit even shooting ones.
Does that mention it in the ability? or do I have to guess?
My biggest problem with the game is I can't hover over something like in dota to understand what it does, like the stats
Mouse over the abilities, they'll have icons and explanations
hold tab, you can hover over just about everything on screen including other players and see all the abilities. if it's marked with a pentagram it scales with spirit
hold alt and you can ping people as missing
Why are there so many morons here thinking they can beat literal cheaters?
Imagine every scenario where anons keep losing games because of their teammates and they cry about it on Ganker. Now imagined if they had cheats, would that have changed the outcome of their games even with their shit teammates?
thats not how ranks work.
if you are so bad at game your teammates are morons enemy will all be morons as well just like you.
cheaters will have no problem crushing noobs until they reach the top ranks in which other cheaters wiener block them.
at that point the game will devolve to regular dota with everyone having auto aim.
why is this even fps. the entire point of fps is to dominate everyone with skills. not gay ass dota homosexualry.
>why is this even fps. the entire point of fps is to dominate everyone with skills. not gay ass dota homosexualry
i have been asking this since the first game i played. there is no point in being good at aiming if at the end of the day the game revolves around which team can simultaneously press 4 better. this is reinforced by the fact headshots arent as important and health pools are even bigger than in quake.
if you want to shoot play a character that shoots good and buy shoot damage items (most of the cast). snowball hard enough and it'll feel like enemies don't even have quake health pools but cod ones
But that would involve being able to aim, playing the game, and having skill to dominate with in the first place.
Whining about being shit instead of adapting is far easier
>snowball hard enough
thats a big if in an asshomosexuals and it also means not everyone is playing at the same power level at all. stomping like that isnt exactly fun when the other team cant even fight back
Black person
>thats a big if in an asshomosexuals
its all skill. that skill being picking the right hero
>like 5 different items that make headshots melt people
>headshots are not important
shiggy diggy
I bet you don't buy unstoppable either because there's no point, pressing 4 is just too strong
It's not even an first person shooter.
Why do so many morons here thinking cheaters will stop us from playing deadlock?
tf2troons projecting
>So you want Valve to implement this anticheat
What anticheat? Last I checked Deadlock's going to have the same standards on cheating as valve's other games (so basically shit).
>Should they do it for Day of Defeat as well? Half Life 2 Deathmatch?
moronic argument. TF2 is the one game which has much more dedicated audience of players who have stuck with the game. Plus tf2 is the game that's actually having to deal with bots.
Okay.
Then make the game no longer free to play. Sorted.
>What anticheat? Last I checked Deadlock's going to have the same standards on cheating as valve's other games (so basically shit).
Game isn't even out yet so the frick you going on about.
It would be assumed it uses the same anticheat as other valve games until something gets announced. It would be more of a stretch to assume a new anticheat when nothing's been announced.
It'll most likely use something like CS's AI anti cheat but it'll work differently because the AI will need to learn differently in Deadlock compared to CS. So no, it's not the same anti cheat as other valve games.
>CS's AI anti cheat
Doesn't CS have a shit load of cheating?
That comes with it being VAC (cuck anti-cheat for linux trannies)
Meant for
mcginnis' portrait with the war paint-like grease stains and the popped collar looks so much cooler than her current actual model, I hope they actually give her that and give her that more squinty mean look
The (assuming) finished portraits are so good. Half of what I'm excited for from Deadlock is just the finished art
when the portraits first leaked i thought mcginnis was alyx
Does anyone have that vocaroo with lash's bebop lines?
None of this even matters because normal people will just play on faceit
but i wont get item drops on faceit
KIDSH
GO TO DA SCHOOL
TOMORROW IS SCHOOL IN YOUR COUNTRY
FOR ME PLAY FACEIT WIN
OKAY
YOU GO TO DA SCHOOL
AND NO PLAY FACEIT TOMORROW
that type of bot doesnt work on source 2, so nice scare tactics I guess, but it's not going to be like tf2 even if it is a free to play
cs2 has a bot problem too you fricking moron
Russian children with cheats ≠ bots
>spend a good minute in queue
>oh the mmr must be finally working
>it was a stomp anyway
Source 2 games seem to be more individual now. Each game has its own VAC varient and hammer editor.
cs2's hammer works with deadlock
huh, weird
isn't that just for importing maps?
>team chasing Haze to kill her 200hp ass
>we used all catch
>she gets a haste from a crate
classic dota
haha yea classic dota crates
Black person half the time youre not getting jack shit from boxes and she happens to just get a fricking increase movement speed buff and not a fricking 4 clip/firerate/SOULS
she broke like 5 boxes before something appeared
>and she happens to just get a fricking increase movement speed buff
>she broke like 5 boxes before something appeared
Ok? So what's the problem again?
your ability to read
oh good, for a moment I thought it was your ability to verbalize your thoughts
Bomb bebop kinda sucks until you get echo shard but most builds are broken with that thing.
Solo deadlock is miserable
denying noobs of their souls is fun