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>Monster Hunter 6 trailer comes out
>you are eating nothing but dango again
Shut up
If it means 1 more monster weapon set doesn't get BONED or ORED then I am fine with it.
They'll make dango-ed weapons instead.
Frick no. It's literally the most soulless food sequence in the series.
Even the fricking fondue in X/XX was better.
>Sunbreak is revealed
>nice, we go to a medieval Europe inspired kingdom
>Iceborne had its own canteen with its own food
>surely this means real food is back, baby!
>Dango somehow made it across the sea ahead of you
>Local specialties, like pretzels, are around, but not for you
>All you get is Dango
MH lost a portion of its soul when they reduced food to colorful plastic balls
somehow made it across the sea ahead of you
It's not a continental distance between them anon.
I just wanted something other than Dango, anon. Why did the Dango emporium rush to establish a franchise in Elgado before the hunter even arrived, just to crush my hopes?
>devs make rise
>yo let’s make it super japanese
>make japanese candy the canteen food
>go to make expansion
>realize they already made an entire system around dango
>no time to rework the entire food system
>recycle it
Shortsighted devs moment
>PC chads complain about not having soulful food like world
>they just cheat out the whole mechanic of eating anyway
Lmao I love this shit
i did enjoy it, it's a fact that it need improvements tho
Still going through it at MR 5, but so far I've liked it.
What dango do you guys usually eat and what weapon do you use? Do you use the new dango level system or just all rank 2s?
I always use the level new dango skewers, If you want some ez buffs quickly at the start of a hunt, dango birdcaller is pretty good and it takes like 1-2 minutes to get full health/stamina, dango booster is a sure bet too
if you play gunlance, try get dango bombadier to proc, lvl 3 is fine since the 4 boost is miniscule, if bowguns, dango marksman/temper are good
I mostly use defender, moxie, and the last one I can't remember lmao
My dango order is usually Weakener, Defender (Hi), and then booster with the level system if I'm playing melee. If I'm gunning I'll use the dango that boosts gun damage instead of Weakener.
how the hell do you get this much defense? guy had defense boost maxed out sure but a quick mental math dictates that you cannot get this high even with ~700 defense and the bowgun said 0 defense bonus
Just mod it like everybody else
man frick I should of just got it on switch
Why do you even need that much defense in first place?
I don't know but my autism dictates I check the stats of every player I come across and get mad when I see something funny
>should of
You should've paid better attention in class :^)
Stack the highest defense armors you can with Defense 7 and as many elemental resists at level 3 as you can fit. Each elemental resist at level 3 adds 10 defense, which are all magnified by multipliers such as charms, talons, drugs, etc. Also bugstick will boost defense with orange nectar and some weapons have 30-50 bonus flat defense.
have a nice day you cheating gaylord
def boost 7 gives you an absolute shitton, but this guy probably popped a clothfly which gives you several hundred on its own for a short time
buffs I assume. I am just under 900 with HH buff.
I hope the next monster hunter gen adds a new weapon or two
90% of the hud is useless and should promptly be toggled off in the options
I hate how the health and stamina bar is back to going across the entire screen.
You can minimize it, no?
Of course not. You will like the giant unnecessary health bar and huge song list for HH.
>Want to turn off the Move Name HUD
>Can't because I rotate weapons and keep forgetting which silkbinds are on which scroll
post ur cat
tsuKINO
El gato hermano
L'il Gatito
I know this isn't sunbreak related but ever one who sucks off world for its "realism" is absolutely moronic and shut down by the Elder Crossing.
>but muh migration! Muh elephant graveyard!
Every elder dragon is a different species. It's impossible that every single elder dragon has a migratory insticint leading them to the Rotten Vale when they die. I don't even dislike world, I just dislike the people who jack it off because of le realism.
homie this game has magic dragons that shoot lightning.
Even attempting to "explain" how the totally not made of magic monsters work is a step in the right direction.
Then we got anime land.
Why does it need to be explained?
Because people with taste prefer things with lore fitting justification, even if they are just token hand-waves at the end of the day.
If you totally ignore the "realism" of the setting you get pointless anime bullshit, like pretty much all of the monster hunter ripoffs that only weebs with no taste play.
You can explain it, just don't explain it with real world rules.
Soul Sacrifice makes more sense than Monhun tho.
Because "muh realistic" disease
Except artists in the early 20th century actually thought that shit was gonna be possible in a hundred years. We haven't become less creative, just more aware.
What do you mean it's unrealistic?
They migrate because of bioenergy™.
>thought Lunagaron's science twist is some weird photosynthesis shit with the moon
>actually he just walks on two legs cause he can
I thought him turning off his thermoregulation to increase the blood flood to his leg muscles was a pretty interesting twist personally, I always like that kind of thing
Rajang exists to shit on Realismgays who say the old games were "realistic".
They are all being lured
Also Rise's magic is homosexual.
trying to go back to 3U and GU after playing rise is making me feel moronic
Thank god you can hide all the useless shit and drag 2 files into the folder to scale the UI down.
waddya mean
There's a UI scale mod for reframework
Oh god this is so much better. Just the default settings fixed pretty much everything.
It's almost as if it is a good idea to scale UI depending on resolution.
>hiring buddies
>3 palicoes and 2 palamutes named Hank
I think hank gang is my new meowcenaries
Where's the fingerless glove meter?
i didn't make the pic, only found it funny kek
>gunlance main
That's me!
>bow main
I still don't get gunlance. What combo do I want to use with long shells?
Sheathe up and throw kunai
Anything normal do + Wyvern fire often
fullbursting is optimal on long
What's the point of long now that BB exists? does BB hits harder with Long because I'm under the Impression that Normal BB should hit harder?
Also what's better BB with WB or EC?
You cant just land BB whenever you want. You have to be strategic about it otherwise you will whiff constantly. Full burst is easier to land and you arent fricked if you whiff it. Use all the tools you have anon.
that's my point, Fullburst is more effective with normal and shell-poke play is better with wide, the whole point of Long was Boosted Wyvern fire and wyrmstake but with BB I feel like those points are kinda redundant.
>with BB I feel like those points are kinda redundant
Why though?
BB is at its strongest with Long because Long gets an extra blast out of wyvernfire and your wyvernstake does more damage on Long
using BB with EC doesn't do as much damage as using it with wyvernstake equipped
the difference between long and normal are minor enough that you can play both the same way with very little difference, the main one being that long shelling has superior range and your BBs/wyvernfires will be a bit stronger, so choose whichever you fancy, its only wide that has a different playstyle
Long is a better BBer since it has stronger stake and wyvernfire
Just do slam into fullburst with occasional sweep. Avoid Wyvernstake and just go for Erupting Cannon, unless you feel you're consistent enough to hit high hitzones and or need to cut tails. Use Bullet Barrage to punish big recovery animations or roars. Don't always commit to a fullburst, you can switch skill swap evade cancel a slam and strafe around the side or back of the monster to dodge an attack, then do a slam > fullburst to punish the attacks recovery.
>What combo do I want to use with long shells?
....combos? you just route to fast slams and burst if you have the time to. long just gives you the option you shell hard parts.
>Gunlance main
hmmh ywess im jerking off to the thought of being a pathetic GL main pls make more fun off me AUGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
schizo
is this the mh version of the indiana jones poster?
Personally I miss the vita guy
>decent damage
>BTFOs other hunters """""""""accidentally""""""""""
>fun
Yup, I'm writing gunlance down as "Based".
>gunlance
>decent damage
gunlance
is fun
>movement speed slower than walking in almudron cum
>stand stationary, snap dilator in half to release excess estrogen
>screen fizzles and pops
>explosions cover up the monster
>the earth shakes and controller rumbles
>68 damage
>movement speed
blast dash resolves any and all movement problems GL may have, also evade extender, which is desirable for every weapon
>68 damage
you can hit over 2k with bullet barrage, with redirection you will can do this very frequently
>you can hit over 2k
>he actually thinks that's impressive
>2k
what how?
i can only manage 1.5k
Its lies, BB can only hit 2k on training room under perfect circumstances. Meanwhile, GS Chads are casually throwing out 4.5k plus TCS that come out quicker than BB and don't consume your estrogen meter that you need to manually reload
Is there a good Blast/Raw SA for afflicteds?
Teo for Blast
Scorned for Raw
Scorned has more slots but blast is negligible, Teo will crank out 240 blast every 5-8 hits
Can I cram Teo's deco on Teo's SA?
Yes.
Yes, if you have some good charms you could also use the Teo waist for his blessing which will increase the blast buildup by 10%
I enjoyed it, but it 100% was not worth full price. Killed Incel Magnamalo a few times, and uninstalled since I was completely bored by the time I grinded from MR70 to 100.
>rng armor augmentations
>can finally get spiribird caller on a decent armour piece
Can't wait, this shit is going to keep me playing. If this armour system is rng then my interest in this game is going to skyrocket. I genuinely can't wait for this.
is spiritbird caller worth it? if I cared about getting spiritbirds, I'd just get birdcaller lvl 4 dango and get maxed out in 2 mins before fighting the monster
It's nice if you can make a set that happens to have it but not worth going out of your way for
I mean even if you don't want it, this new system sounds fantastic. If you can augment every single piece of armour you have to have more skills and slots then that a lot of time you can put into upgrading your shit. This sounds like the end game that this game has been lacking so far.
something tells me it wont be quite as powerful as everyone hopes
it will be limited to elemental/status or maybe raw +atk skills
The one on chink twitter had protective polish as a purely additional skill. That's more than good enough for me.
>More skill bloat
This was what killed Iceborne honestly.
You could stuff every single offensive skill in a single set and still have room for HB3+Divine Blessing
>lstroons trying to switch the narrative to gunlancr hate after 4 games of everyonr hating them for being braindead weeaboos who can't survive with the easiest weapon in the game
holy fricking kek this is something else
>gunlance main
it's litterally one person doing all the heavy lifting, maybe a couple more joining for the lulz, nothing that really matter
Last thread it was a GS shitter having a mental breakdown because he was told to stop relying on randoms to carry him and then sperged out over GL.
>mad that LS outperforms him in every single way
Sorry GunLoser
LS has been good for like 2 games the frick are you on about?
How the frick do I stop autosheathe when I aim away from the target while pressing silkmove button (LT). Sheathe is on manual already
it's fun!!!!! just like in my Zelda games!! i go binng binng wahhooing around the map collectings birds xdd *farts* hehehe i love nintendo 🙂 and mon hun!!
>holds xbox controller
>he doesnt use xbox controller while playing on pc
Disgusting
>he uses xbox controllers for anything
The D-Pad is still shit no matter what microsharts will tell you.
I'd rather deal with xbox d-pad than playstation controller layout. Xbox controller fits in the hand way more comfortably.
neither of these are true, the layout is dogshit and bad for clawing and its uncomfortable because its meant to be gripped by morons (xbox players) instead of just resting in the hand comfortably like the ps one
>posts a webm of a mentally unstable console manchild
nice one
Reminder.
wait, that thing is 20 years old?
So this is what eating goyslop in burgerland does to a 20 year old male...
my a hee
5th genners will Wirefall tech 50 feet away out of the animation of getting hit from a monster and then instantly hop on Wolf Link to chug potions while moving at full speed and still pretend they're playing actual Monster Hunter
Sounds like 5th gen players are good at avoiding carting. Literally all I ask for of anyone else on my hunts.
>temporal mantles your post
and previous genners will just get knocked down because its a 10 seconds of being invincible, then run behind the monster, causing it to do its robot 90 degree turn over 10 seconds while chugging a potion and flexing.
Meanwhile me, as a based old school player (yes I refer to myself as monster hunter, or monhun as well call it, veteran) will stand completely still and wait for the entire potion drinking animation to finish, with a manual emote afterwards.
Not a very hard thing to do when the monster stands around doing nothing for 20 seconds after every little attack.
Sounds like old school monster hutner yeah.
Here's your super hard MH game, bro
i (enlightened old game player) simply just switch zones to chug pots and sharpen :^)
Well if you don’t then the alternative is getting slammed with Malzeno’s heat-seeking tail stab
I’m at A4 and still haven’t failed a quest but by god the tracking on some attacks in this game is ridiculous
I don't enjoy using Dereliction
I like it in afflicted quests because bloodblight means you can just restore it effortlessly, even moreso if you have medicine israeliteels/blood rite
Dereliction and Bloodlust is addicting for me, also gives a use to the 1000 plus Gourmet fishes I have left over from motley mixes
popping a gourmet fish pretty much makes it a non-issue
yeah
I like volvi SA.
too bad you have to farm Volvi for it.
>"Why do Rather/Ian/Garuga/etc have an unreactable charge to punish me for camping at the head and targeting the weakzone? I should be able to react to it at any time with any of the 5 (literally) counters the Longsword has. Frick positioning and looking for openings."
nu-LS is so soulless
LS only had soul on maybe XX but before and after has been a soulless weapon.
NOOOOOOOOO YOU JUST DON'T ACCEPT NEW FEATURES
NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS MY WEAPON DOES MORE DAMAGE
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>garuga
>fight at the head
>get charged
>fight at the tail
>get 360 noscope by beak
>fight on the flanks
>shitzones everywhere
>garuga
>stay front and right of the creature
>never get hit
>always hit the head
At least, as long as you're not using something short.
Remember the beak having its hitbox being about as big as a small planetoid?
Used to hit all the way to the base of his tail lol
I like the updated Garuga fight at least, they did a good job making it still feel frantic even with all the jank removed
>Get punished for bad positioning
Is this supposed to be a problem? Know your openings and where to stand moron.
>Frick positioning and looking for openings.
This is basically what lance, DB, IG, and CB all do tho.
Lance used to have a fricking godawful matchup against Garuga because the pecks caused heavy knockback/chip damage even with high levels of Guard. Had to be playing Evade lance at which point you might as well just use any other weapon and kill shit faster anyways.
And G Rank Raths sucked too cause wind pressure would constantly set off your counters to open you up to get wrecked.
so how much damage do your palico/palamute contribute if you stuff them with dps increasing skills? is it worth it or do I just stuff them with support skills
I mostly just run with two gathering palicos
bowgun chads run this game
I'd like to try Heavy BowGun but frick farming ammo for it. How easy is it to actually farm ammo?
just buy it from the shop, money isnt exactly scarce late game
Do they really sell every ammo type?
yes, but if you want extra, you need the material so you can craft them during the hunt. getting the material is easy if you just set your palico to gather that item at the argosy
also buy ammo during sales
Got any ammo recommendations?
Btw, what's the best way to make money in Rise?
In World is was selling monsters parts but I was wondering if there was a better way here
>best way to make money
mining runs in MR can make you a lot of money quickly if you can optimize the route
i like pierce 3 for long range, spread 3 for close range, and wyvern for wake ups. probably not optimal but i like it
also i heard sticky ammo got nerfed, but i didnt really use it too much
>mining runs in MR can make you a lot of money quickly if you can optimize the route
What's the best map to do that?
I guess citadel
Are people seriously struggling with zenny in MR? Have you just not got to the afflicted monsters yet? Cause they give out so many high value eggs that I'll probably never feel a concern over money ever again. Platinum eggs can sell for 100k and you seem to get one every other hunt. I even got 2 once.
i mentioned earlier in the replies that money isnt scarce late game.
but if you somehow are low on money, mine runs are a pretty good source
I dunno, still early and having no problem, but that was the same in base Rise
having no money can happen, when you play at least 10 of the weapons and even try some with different elements, to be fair.
I selling the rare ores you get from trading with a letter also gets you a lot of zenny, with the bonus of not having to do mining yourself
You literally buy it at the item shop
You'll need like 1 ingredient to craft more ammo mid-hunt for a particular bowgun and you can get any of those from the cat farm
Don't just don't,
as an HBG main I tell you that outside sticky spam HBG is completely useless, they fricked HBG hard on this game, if you want bowgun go for LBG that has better damage than HBG and way more mobility.
What the real difference between them?
Can LBG use all the same ammo?
the real differences are the clip sizes and some kind of ammos (mostly clust and Wyvern), HBG does not worth all the hassle because sticky spam is plain boring.
LBG is objectively better than HBG on this game, the question would be Bow vs LBG (which I personally think on Bow)
LBG can use same ammo.
Difference is HBG has higher clip size and slightly higher fire rate, but LBG is still better because mobility, damage per shot and all that jazz.
Technically, HBG can have higher DPS in ideal scenario with mon permanently locked down, but thats not really gonna happen.
Plus, IMO, silkbinds are better.
Are the charged attacks of HBG ever worth using?
for sticky spam, but personally I don't even use charged, just use crounched an call it a day
>HBG is bad because sticky spam boring, and dps is lower the LBG
homie just use a different ammo, you dont have to let 'optimal damage output meta' control how you play the game. hope capcom nerfs the stickies again next update
Gainsgolem LBG is straight better for spread that gol/tetra HBGs.
well, of fricking course.
If I have higher DPS with LBG AND no drawback with mobility why the frick should I use HBG over LBG?
for fun?
do you also skip out on every weapon that isnt the bow because it has lower dps and utility?
NO, I skip weapons whose downsides outweights its good sides, everyone have fun on different ways, if you have fun with slow and shit weapons, well good for you, but that's not me, I won't impose my fun over your's and you shouldn't impose your fun over mine's
it is really easy to farm ammo, for example for slashing ammo in the first area, by the time you picked up the 6th flower, the first one has already spawned so you can get 60 ammo in like 1 minute of just running around and picking it up, then just go to the subcamp, put it away and pick up more until you have an ample supply because as bowgun you want both the ammo and the ammo flower to craft it while attacking, this goes especially for sticky ammo
based
really wish they put damage percents in the post fight screen so i could shit on my teammates for being deadweight
Do you think Sunbreak will get a final boss as kino as him?
Not even close, given that it needs to run on Switch it wouldn't even be possible.
Rise is just a spin-off, the next time you'll see that kind of spectacle will be in MH6.
frick off dumbass! if anything World was the spinoff.
According to the devs, World was MH5.
>Wikipedia
Give me some real sources
>according to the game's senior producer Ryozo Tsukimoto and director Yuya Tokuda
where's the enterview where they say that.
https://www.rpgsite.net/interview/5747-a-brief-chat-with-the-developers-of-monster-hunter-world
>who seemed to spend a lot of their E3 painstakingly explaining to media from every country in the world how this technically is Monster Hunter 5, even if a number isn't actually in the title.
lmao imagine getting btfo this hard for being a moronic schizo
Right here you fricking nerd
I can't fricking believe they said that, but sadly with such a good proof I can only kneel
Concession status = accepted.
moron
Enjoy your glorified spinoff
You went full hurf duff wikipedia bad but it literally gives the interview source.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170617003952/http://www.glixel.com/interviews/monster-hunter-world-leads-answer-all-the-big-questions-w488101
>How do you view the relationship between Monster Hunter: World and the other Monster Hunter games? Is this a spinoff, or a main title?
Ryozo Tsujimoto: This is the next main Monster Hunter game. Our Osaka team is working on it. We've brought in some people who are more familiar with next-gen technology to come in and help us adapt it for the current generation of consoles. When you have a series that runs into the higher numbers, I think the numbers themselves start to become off-putting. New players might think, "Oh, I've missed four games already, I can't possibly join at this point." Just because we've taken the number off the title doesn't mean it's not a main Monster Hunter game. We just wanted to have "world" in the title because it speaks to the concept of the game in a variety of ways. This is the first simultaneous worldwide release for the game, and the servers are global this time.
>devs say each new game will be mainline named title after world
>"noooo Rise is spinoff, give us MH6"
>devs say World is MH5
>"yeah, they said it, must be true"
Pls never change, I need something to laugh
>you'll need to wait for MH6 for frontier kino and Gor-ACK
Lot of shit happening during all mother narwa and Gaismagorm fights are pretty cinematic, they totally can if they want
>still seething that the shitch is too weak to run world
Enjoy your soulless bootleg
>Enjoy your soulless bootleg
no, I won't play world, ty
Rise is not only a mainline but also de facto mh6.
You are mentally ill and desperately need professional help.
The next one for next-gen is going to be Monster Hunter 6.
Rise is what Portable 3rd was to Tri, or was GU was to 4U: a more arcade take on the same generation.
cope I said, even devs btfo you with their answers
So what, Rise is 6th gen?
The concept of Generation may as well be dead, because I doubt we are getting sub titles anymore
It was a required concept simply because at some point we litterally got three games with 3 in the name
...or World is 5 and Rise is 5.5, which makes much more sense. Just like 4U was, well, 4 and GU was 4.5.
I don't understand why you people keep denying that Rise is World: Arcade Edition. It's literally the same core game, but improved and changed in some aspects to make it more portable-friendly.
Every game is "old game, but improved and changed"
What I don't understand is why you litterally can't believe the actual devs words and need to make your own headcanon
>I don't understand why you people keep denying that Rise is World: Arcade Edition
Simple, because it isn't. Outside of the seamless maps there's very little similarities between the two games and it very clearly isn't built on it like the others since the animations for both monster and hunter aren't as bad as it was in world.
They already said after world they were going with all named mainline titles, so that shit is litterally fan fictions
>b-but the leaks
Pretty old, considering they didn't even have the actual name of Rise
Poopbreak doesn't even have anything as kino as zorah
lole
BING BING WAHOO!
At least zorah was epic, rampage is literally just zorah without the soul
I like both 🙂
>zorah was epic
haha holy frick snoys are mental
BING BING WAHOO!
i'M A TENDIE, DRAGONS AND DINOSAURS SCARE ME, I NEED BUNNY RABBITS HOLDING A FRICKING PARADE!
Name one thing apart from "there are cannons and ballistae" that zorah magdaros and rampages have in common. By that "logic", every single siege type fight in the series is "literally the exact same".
Rampages suck but Zorah is without a doubt and with no competition the worst fight in the entire series. Nothing even comes close
and thank White Fatalis for that
>there are people on this board who don't like bazelgeuse and aren't excited for seething bazel
explain yourselves!
He's a great monster but theres no point if he isnt just showing up and fricking up every single hunt I go on
Bazel lost all of his personality in rise. He was the one thing I liked in world but now he doesn't intrude on hunts, he just runs around like every other monster on the map, if he comes across you by chance it's to your advantage because he will just ignore you and go for the monster you're fighting and he shoots way less bombs that are now in set patterns rather than random. Fricken lame
So, what are the chances we get qurio apexes (4u) to complement afflicted being qurio frenzy?
Low, Qurios monster are litterally Hypers from GU.
They've basically hinted at it in some of the dialogue already, so probably
>hinted at it in some of the dialogue
like? I don't remember anything like that but I'm kinda of a speed reader anyway
They make a big deal about how afflicted monsters aren't quite a emergency since they'll die sooner than later, and also make a note of how the Qurio are rapidly evolving to find a new suitable host. 4/4U literally did the same exact thing with Frenzied monsters, they weren't too much of a hassle cause they'd die before they could spread it too far, and then Apexes showed up capable of Shaggy levels of Frenzy spreading, they're pretty clearly foreshadowing the same thing with the Qurio evolving line
I wonder if they'll do afflicted getting onto shaggy and making a super virus
I think they were just foreshadowing Gaismagorm
But who know, everything is litterally possible
hopefully no quriostones
>I think they were just foreshadowing Gaismagorm
This Dialogue takes place after you kill Gaismagorm Anon... You don't even fight Anomaly monsters till you beat him remember? The Qurio evolution line is literally in reference to the appearance of Anomaly monsters
I like it so far. Working through the story it was definitely a step above Iceborne in terms of difficulty. Title updates will make or sunbreak it so I’m crossing my fingers we get something on par with Alatreon and Fatalis near the end. Kinda worried about the RNG armor augmentation thing they just revealed, could be cancer
It's pretty mediocre coming off of GU
??? GU was literally the shittiest, most soulless MH ever.
The only thing shit about GU is the use of 4th and 1st gen maps.
You didn't even play it, homosexual.
I played X when it came out in japan and it almost killed my interest in the series, massive downgrade from 4U and super boring because it was 99% recycled content.
Deviants were a cool idea but they ruined them with that moronic system where you had to do them repeatedly to level their quests up.
still haven't played sunbreak because I hated rampages so goddamn much. Are they streamlined at all or at least reduced?
they are not a thing in sunbreak. They didn’t even add upgrades to the rampage weapon tree (yet?)
There are no rampages at all in Sunbreak, and now there's event missions so you don't have to do any rampages to fight Apex monsters or Ibushi.
>Being this autistic about what the games are called
As far as Capcom cares every game except MH1, Dos, Tri, 4, and World are spinoffs
Yes they call all the G Ranks spinoffs
You're even more moronic than they are if you care
I made the Daora Swaxe and I have questions
are critical element israeliteels and frost israeliteels enough of a damage increase to be worth it?
is the switcher israeliteel worth it over anti-dragon/fanged beast israeliteels?
https://twitter.com/monsterhunter/status/1549703533058039808
what the frick is this
please fricking tell me this isn't more RNG
If you look at the different countries monhun Twitter they have the same armour piece with different skills, stat changes and even new slots so it seems like it probably will be rng. Which is a good thing.
Can't wait for people to rage because their set that already have all offensive skills can't get all offensive skills+1 because of unlucky RNG
Also that's miles better then weapons RNG because while +5 skill level is good, that doesn't even compare to a whole new tier of weapons
>If you look at the different countries monhun Twitter
So far I saw japs with 2 skills,def and res adjust and english one with one skill and def buff, there is one with a deco slot?
Can't wait for people to rage because their set that already have all offensive skills can't get all offensive skills+1 because of unlucky RNG
I actually hope that's the case, for me the problem with utlity skills is that they're so much worse than just slotting in more damage that there was no real reason to use them if you had to pick and chose beyond super useful skills like EE or QS. That's why I liked the split lvl 4 decos in world meaning you had to slot in some utility.
>So far I saw japs with 2 skills,def and res adjust and english one with one skill and def buff, there is one with a deco slot?
Chink one, has 2 extra 1 slots and different skills.
>That's why I liked the split lvl 4 decos in world meaning you had to slot in some utility.
Right now lv4 are only utility skills/ underused offensive skills so it's a good spot
Sadly they are going to ruin it with lv4 WEX/CB/AB/CE in the Title updates
>Chink one, has 2 extra 1 slots and different skills.
oh god, that's kinda huge.
Yeah it seems like they've just slapped talisman melding onto armour slots. The weird fluxtuations in def changes, adding slots plus the weird seemingly out of place skill choices leads me to believe it's random. I doubt they'd have that many different changing elements if you could choose.
Eh, at this point I surrender, no way that isn't RNG
It's fine to be honest, it's not going to be as incredible as people want to believe. you can already get crazy sets anyway
But PC multiplayer is fricked even more, now you will see people going around with crazy charms AND armors
add that to weapons too and it's going to be silly
I'd say the main difference is going to be that a good armour piece is going to be good regardless, the skills and slots are already there as a foundation. Then it's just adding whatever new skills you want passively over time without feeling like you require it. I mean we're already slotting in every damage skill under the sun so to me this sounds like a massive improvement over talisman melding.
If anything, "bad" armor piece can get to good now.
That would have been SO much good without layered armors lol
Fricking hell, just kill me already
Oh boy, more gambling addict MMOshit
Welcome to Monster Hunter newbie.
You realize you don't have to have those, doing what you can with what you have is part of the experience.
h-haha
>Ganker demands grindy endgame content
>gets grindy endgame content
>NO NO NO THIS ISN’T WHAT I WANTED
Just kidding I understand that RNG mechanics suck
No, you see Monster Hunter becoming soulless MMOshit is a GOOD thing
Stop pretending they're the same people you fricking stupid Black person. Yes I asked for grindy endgame content. Yes, I'm beyond happy with this grindy endgame content. Suck my fricking wiener.
I really don't mind RNG but the RNG for this game has been absurd.
Good RNG would get you stuff that may not be ideal but still usable, but the fact that you can get charms in MR that would not even be useful in HR from your charm pool is so fricking stupid and makes the concept of this being RNG lame as frick.
Being able to even slightly determine what skills you get would also be nice. Not even a direct choice, something just like attack-related skills (with everything from charge master to maximum might) or guard-related skills. I do not want any more bowgun ammo/bow skills when I have never touched those weapons.
they had that system in LR, right?
Where you basically 'suggested' a skill to the melder and it was more likely to give you something with it, but not guaranteed
they were low level utility skills but it could work just fine for more lategame stuff, too
I would kill for a charm with Offensive Guard and some decent slots at this point
>Good RNG would get you stuff that may not be ideal but still usable
Honestly, you can still make a good set with a one lv2 slotted charm.
World system was way worse and honestly speaking MH always worked fine with RNG charm (and consider that, old game had permanently bugged tables)
of course
I'm talking about options that are completely useless, like getting a single level of artillery and zero slots on a rarity 9 charm
who would ever use that?
why is having RNG that shits out stuff you will never use acceptable?
>more Anomaly content
I still had the faint hope that anomaly monsters would go the way of Rampages, but I guess that's the endgame now, at least until the grinding lands arrive. Fun.
>grinding lands
Will never understand why people like this dogshit
HOPEFULLY it's just using new Afflicted parts from specific monsters for specific upgrades
Isn't this just like the whole rampage skills shit from base rise but on armor now
Seems more like the Safi weapon bonus rolling from Iceborne but on your armor instead
A mildly less shit version of 4U's relics
>Minmax autists seething over kino RNG elements
love to see it
>kino
>rng
pick one
RNG is a thinking mans mechanic, taking whatever skills hes got lying around and making it work
except when you have 500 hours in the game and still don't have any good talismans
>needing talismans
youre radiating shitter energy, take the shitty talismans they give you and make the best of it. your attack boost with bonus level 2 deco slot youre missing out on isnt going to massively change your build
I've clearly been making the best of it being HR 520 and MR 180, but after this long it's pretty fricking annoying not getting a half decent charm for the weapons I play
>minmax autists seething
They just mod their "legit" gear into the game so it doesn't affect them.
Hopefully next game just returns Crouching Fire to how it used to be (different ammos allowed per gun like Rapid Fire for LBG) and makes it actually worth it
The heat bar is too restrictive right now and charge shots are gay
How the frick can I make Spiral Slash connect properly and not slide over or under the monster half the time?
I'm pretty you can't, it's just borderline useless against some monsters.
Though i do find that it connects more reliably if you use it in the air to shoot downwards, so combining it with demon flight would be a good idea.
I think yesterday vs Magnamalo I was litterally flying past his body somehow, was super weird
Yeah i know exactly what you mean, it often just grazes enemies instead of drilling into them, so it's really useless against monsters with a sloped/low profile.
Yeah I figured it's something really stupid like that. I also feel like getting ZSD to actually connect to a monster is much more precise in Rise than it was in World, probably related to SS just grazing monsters.
It only "sticks" on certain parts of monsters
Usually the head is a safe bet but on some others you can hit their wings or chest
Has to hit a wex applicable hitzone.
It only drills if you're hitting a weakpoint
is this map just shit or what? idk why its so unstable
Enable "reduce processing through model loading" or whatever that option is called. You will have some pop-in on ground clutter but it will fix all performance issues. For some reason Sunbreak fricked something up, the flooded forest has similar issues for me.
Thx senpai. I have that issue too in jungle
there are two red doors in the citadel that have shit behind them but I can't figure out how to get to them, I've been looking, but no dice
Ok, where on the map because just saying 2 red doors doesn't really help.
sorry, the doors are by the river at the lower levels near the fortress on the eastern side of the map
surprised I didn't think of that, thanks bros
Just use an explosive barrel.
Under the bridge and down the well? Bomb those doors.
Started getting 5-10 second freezes since SB update.
Temps are fine, 2080ti@ryzen3950x.
Any advice?
Ui mods?
None.
I only ever used autodango, but that was pre-sunbreak.
>forcing us to fight anomaly monsters even more
Worst type of endgame
compared to what type of endgame?
MH doesn't need special endgame homosexual mode monsters with bloated hp that does nothing but make fights more tedious
What would you imagine a perfect endgame to be then?
I'm trying to like tempered spirit blade but I really don't. I miss helm splitter, even if it got nerfed in SB.
I wish there was a niche Helm splitter was good in so that it could be still useful but not the central point of the weapon
never played it, but is MH slowly turning into WoW or something?
Some Gankeredditors are shitting it up with DPS meters and excessive cheating, but the vast majority of players still plays vanilla.
That's more world than rise. No DPS checks or synchronized swimming mechanics.
Endgame crackheads we're eating good tonight
I don't get why people are getting angry exactly.
>go full force on the new gimmick
you get a couple more level on AB/CE and some small utility skill, I guess
>ignore the system
You still got a solid set
It's not like they are adding a new whole set of armors/weapon that you NEED to RNG with to ever compete vs new monsters
>lategame content doesn’t require significant amounts of RNG
Players blast through it in a week and then complain there’s no endgame
>lategame content requires you to grind for weeks
Players fricking hate it and whine and cry despite wanting to play forever
without infinite monsters and carrots to chase the fanbase will never truly be happy
I don't care what MMOgays think. The game should have a more conclusive end instead of trying to string along dipshits forever
I feel you. Having to wait half a year to be able to fight the true final boss which may or may not be ass really sucks
We already fought Gaismagorm anon.
maybe, just maybe people want a good endgame?
not accumulating MR until you beat the story and locking punished mango behind MR 100 is bad design
world's decoration farming was also bad design
>punished mango isn’t locked by mr
>you beat it at mr 25
>complain there’s no endgame
Endgame this, endgame that. You gays aren’t supposed to play the game indefinitely but here we are
but what if, hear me out that after beating him at MR 25, there was a fun and interesting endgame?
What even would be a fun and interesting endgame for Monster Hunter that doesn't involve hunting the same pool of monsters ad infinitum for incrementally better builds?
Cause people want to b***h no matter what. For all we know it isn't RNG at all, and even if it is you'd think there'd be rejoicing with how much wienersucking of World/IB's RNG systems in these threads with "m-muh endgame!"
Worldborne's rng was fine. Hint the event zinogre twice and idle at the DreamWorks for 10 minutes and that's it. You didn't have randomised talismans and randomised armour skills.
>Worldborne's rng was fine
No, deco RNG was not good and will never be, Charm rng is just straight up better.
About the new armor RNG, that's to be seen, armor can already pack so much I dunno what can be added more
>Charm rng is just straight up better
>literally one in a million chance to get certain skill combinations and slots
That's irrelevant when good mixing of armor pieces and decorations can get you literally every toy you'd every want with room to spare. Good Charms maybe giving you a chance to squeeze out a little more is fine and the way it should be
Not the point. The point is that charm RNG isn't "good". It's a PvE game, there is no competitive component or god forbid trade, there's no reason to lock skill combinations behind odds so low they may as well not exist.
It doesn't matter anon, it's part of the fun and at this point one of the few thing that actually remain from old titles lol
The point is that it's endless blueballing for the majority of the playerbase. Classic MMO/mobile game tactics. I don't think we need EVERYTHING to be fricking RNG otherwise the sense of reward and accomplishment is gone and there's no mountaintop to reach.
It doesn't matter how little is the chance to get something you don't really need anon.
It's designed to never be fully satisfying. Sisyphean garbage
And? Charms are nowhere near essential you fat moron.
>still not getting the point
It matters because it's a shit system. Pure RNG grind is not really what MH is about, either. Sure, there's RNG, but it's generally at least somewhat deterministic: Hunt a monster, break parts, get an X% chance at drop Y. It's still RNG, it's still a grind of a sort, but there's at least some determinism in that hunting this monster will get you to your goal in a somewhat reasonable time. Pure spin the wheel for your 0.0001% chance at hitting the jackpot RNG is garbage.
You are also not getting the point.
Charms are not even close to weapons/armor/deco crafting
is a small bonus that you get
In some way, is the actually only "true" rng in the game, and that's fine because it's not something you really "want".
If you wake up the morning thinking "I want a WEX3 CE2 (3)(1)(1) charm today", you are the problem,not the game
>You are also not getting the point.
Unironically "no u". I have not for one second argued that the perfect charm is required, or anything of that nature. Stop latching on to your strawman.
I don't give a shit about the charms, I give a shit about a garbage gambling system with no merit that has no place in MH, and if the leaks about this armor shit are true, it's a sign of things to come. The core MH model of RNG, where you at least know what to farm for exact results is fine. We don't need wheel of fortune mechanics with absurdly low odds. That shit needs to go.
And let's not play dumb about the fact that the charm melding and RNG armor shit is meant to incentivize players to keep grinding
Exactly. This is like "Kill monster for 5% chance that you'll get any monster parts at all", because most of the stuff you're fricking spinning the melding wheel for is trash.
Guess MonHun isn't for you since it had this system for talismans for a while (I didn't play World so don't know about that). Maybe you should play some other game?
I know this will blow Ganker's collective minds, but just because something is old and has been around for a while doesn't mean it's good. And it especially doesn't mean they should double down on even more pure luck mechanics. It's shit.
>I know this will blow Ganker's collective minds, but just because something is old and has been around for a while doesn't mean it's good
So are we supposed to say everything is bad because you say so?
No you dumb Black person, you're supposed to look at a mechanic and decide whether it has any merit or value regardless of whether it's old or not, and have a little objectivity and nuance. And holy shit, it's almost like one in a million odds gamble mechanics make no fricking sense in a PvE game with a strong single player component - some may even say focus. And maybe there could be a better mechanic in its place. Like, I don't know, one that involves hunting dangerous monsters for their components dropping from hard to break body parts or something. Crazy, I know, but sometimes things could be better than they are.
>No you dumb Black person, you're supposed to look at a mechanic and decide whether it has any merit or value regardless of whether it's old or not, and have a little objectivity and nuance
People already said to you they find the mechanic fine, but you are sperging "NOOOO IT'S BAD BECAUSE I SAY SO"
just shut the frick up and go download the perfect charm mod
>People already said to you they find the mechanic fine
People have no taste and no foresight, that's hardly news.
>NOOOO I'M RIGHT AND THE OTHER ARE WRONG
I'm sorry anon, world so cruel
Have you tried not being moronic
>you're supposed to look at a mechanic and decide whether it has any merit or value regardless of whether it's old or not
AKA listen to you and shitpost about everything you don't like.
Grow up anon.
No, just don't fall into the nostalgia trap of "it's always been shit, that means it's fine that it's shit now", or copes like "well, it's not 100% required, so I guess it's okay if it's shit". Ask for non-shit mechanics. Good ones maybe even. Have some fricking standards.
But also listen to me, because I am absolutely correct most of the time.
>nostalgia trap
Do you even hear the nonsense you're spouting.
Do you even allow your brain to process what you read, maybe even think about it for a second, before you vomit out what you jokingly call a response? Yes, nostalgia is a trap. People excuse shit all the time with "well, it's always been this way" like that makes it fine. With games it's usually because that's how it was when they started playing, so they coped with the shit and the thought of questioning why it's shit never even crosses their minds.
You aren't even trying to make an argument here anymore.
Your post didn't merit one
Your realise you're the one with something to prove here right?
I don't have to prove shit. The fact that a one in a million RNG system is trash in a game like MH, and that much better, more engaging systems could exist in its place, is self-evident. It doesn't matter whether you need those perfect charms, or how relevant they are. I can't make the horse drink on that one. You either understand it, or you don't.
>But once you have those materials, even if it takes 100 hunts to collect everything you need, you should be able to craft the exact charm you want
Something like that would be a huge improvement, yeah. Anomalies are already kind of a step in that direction, and it's honestly weird to me that they don't interact with the melding system at all. Juiced gimmick monsters that turn even early game shitmons into endgame fights, they drop proprietary components, it'd be the perfect vehicle to target-farm items to fuel a more targeted melding system.
Considering the melding menu has so much empty space and they're adding that new armor augmenting shit, I wouldn't be surprised if an update adds an Afflicted melding pot
>it's not 100% required
it's not even 1% required
>Like, I don't know, one that involves hunting dangerous monsters for their components dropping from hard to break body parts or something.
That's already what you're doing for weapons and armor and that's 99% of your damage already. You're are basically arguing because you can't get a minimal upgrade when you want. And as you say yourself, it's a pve game so what does it matter if you take 10 more seconds on a hunt than you would with a perfect charm? You're still gonna lose time on getting randomly dunked on by what you're hunting. Do you abandon any quests to rage on Ganker everytime a monster doesn't do the exact same sequence of attack in a specific order thus making you lose your apparently o so precious time?
No, we're supposed to say "old system shit, new system puke, can we please have a not-garbage system for once?"
This.
Like, make getting the perfect charm grindy to get, but make it something to actually aim for rather than taking shots in the dark.
The main issue is that there’s no replacement for the RNG charms/decos. People defend it because it gives them something to chase while playing the game ad infinitum. If they didn’t exist then there would be a conclusive end to the game and they would stop playing and have to go outside (like when I beat Fatty in IB)
>nooooo if I can't get a charm with multiple level on the best skills I'm not happy
I have 200 hours (not a lot, for a MH) and I have at least a rank1 charm for every skill, it's honestly not that hard to get em and it's litterally the same as World charms, but with craftable deco.
There is even a whole meld tier to snipe certain skills
>he still doesn't get it
>he still ask for "no u"
I prefer charm RNG over Deco RNG because at least with charms even a shit one can work under certain conditions, decos HAS to be that exact deco.
The only people who would actually prefer Deco RNG over Charm RNG are autist minmaxers. Charms give you a higher power ceiling by giving you more theoretically possible skill levels / slots to work with but you have to grind for a fully min-maxed charm that might not ever come to you. Compared to decos which will have a "guaranteed" ceiling since they get capped by the BiS armor set's slots regardless.
bait
Anon, I wanted to believe that but we got 3 screen that goes from 0 to, respectively
>def buff, res adjust, 2 skills
>def buff, 1 skills (blast attack)
>extra slot, 2 skills
No way it's not rng, sadly.
>Cheating
>activates maximum spiribird mod to get full petalace effect from a single bird
>mods in whatever charm the build needs
>sets dango skill activation chance to 100%
>activates one hit kill against unfun monsters
Aw yeah, it's hunting time
How we went to "you used a strong weapon, you didn't beat the game" to " I will cheat in everything even if I don't really need it just to be overpowered"
>deviants are back for tu2
yeah he's in
I unironically enjoyed him more than regular uragaan, mainly because his rolls have a set path instead of being a heat-seeking rape circle, and after a certain point he ONLY uses sleep gas so if you eat for insomniac you get a ton of free openings
They should make soulseer blue.
No, I will not indulge in any further debate.
new RNG mechanics? sign me up
>all these newbies complaining about rng in Monster HUnter
Stop larping as oldgays you morons, you aren't fooling anyone. Find a different game to complain about cause rng is a staple of Monster Hunter.
Rise of what
my penis into Tsukino
>Get lvl 4 fortune caller dango
>adds 2 heavy armor spheres to my quest rewards
t-thanks yomogi..
Yomogi > Chichae
>Don't play LS
>get QuickSheath3 Agitator2 charm
I guess I do play LS now
Still, I honestly feel that charm RNG> deco RNG was already proven in the base game
>people going crazy for a WEX/CB charm
>WEX/CB deco get released
>suddenly you only need a 2 (2)slot charm
how are Lance mains so strong and virile? i main gunlance and when i see a LanceGOD my knees just give out
Might be cause youre a homosexual
As someone who enjoys both weapons, people really don't realize how differently they play. They have incredibly different rhythms and I urge every lance player to try out gunlance and vice versa. That being said, I have not touched gunlance a single time since the Sunbreak buffs hit lance, god damn instant block feels good.
>people really don't realize how differently they play
No one thinks those two weapons play similarly at all.
>instant block
That's the adept block from Generations, right?
I started to main shield-type weapons because of that.
Too bad Gunlance doesn't have it anymore.
I prefer guard reload to anything else.
I wish we got GU's guard reload though. This one sucks.
Quick reload lets me loop back into slam/fullburst so frick guard reload.
Guard reload allows me to stay on the monster and not get b***h slapped around and the upswing does good damage.
So frick quick reload and frick normal shelling.
>unironically defending rng decos
how do we save these people
Mercy them.
>ironically hating RNG kino
shameful
Saying "this turd isn't as smelly as this other turd" isn't really defending.
They're gambling addicts.
I blame World fanatics that would defend everything about it
Someone even got to the point "boned designs are actually good"
Bone weapons are better than bing bing wahoo primary color anime garbage at the very least. Anime is for pedos.
Terrible bait. Too obvious. No one would actually defend MHW's weapon design.
Ok, ninpedo
>try to use pedo as something offensive
>on Ganker
cringe
>Tourist thinking pedo is an insult on Ganker
lol
lmao even
Everyone who is vehemently anti anime is a pedo
>b***h about rng deco/charm
>almost none of them even care about time attack
>so any performance gain from a meh deco compared to a perfect deco would be minimal anyway
The absolute fricking state of the adhd zoomers populating this place.
Random talismans go as far back as Tri
Don't blame the talismans, blame the culture that developed around shitters claiming they absolutely need the best thing the RNG gacha has to offer even when the game is piss easy without it
>t.whined about World decos
Just make craftable charms that take a shitton of materials AND craftable decorations
Nah no way that'd make too much sense
Chances that Chaotic Gore will bein TU1?
His armor was in the datamine and they said multiple variants so I'm hoping.
Never ever tendies. They're saving him for World 2.
Like gore was going to be?
THE SPIDER. THE SPIDER IS ON THE FRICKING WATER, JUST RUN, NO ONE IS SAFE
Imagine the seething if next Monster Hunter will be officially 5
Haven't fought him yet in my Double Cross play through but he looks kino, so I'm hoping
I'd say it's guaranteed it's coming at some point, but maybe not in the very first update.
Because "muh leaked documents" don't lie, and the next one is called SIX. The devs can say whatever the frick they want, it's PR. Capcom probably told them to say that so Switch-only players don't feel like second-class citizens or something.
Just like World was "their vision, what they always wanted to make from the very beginning, now possible thanks to the power of the Sony PlayStation 4". Yeah sure lmao.
I guarantee you, they'll say the same exact thing with the next one, "now THIS is our true vision: thanks to the power of the SSD..."
Next one is called MH endless, leaked documents don't lie
That wasn't in the documents. That's a fake screencap from /vg/. No MH Endless exists in the actual game leak.
>n-no, that's fake
Starting to get scared?
Also I'm still waiting for Monster Hunter Snow, should be out at this point
What
Just ignore the sonygay. He thinks you're a tendie who's "scared" of "missing out" on the next mh as if you won't be able to get it on pc.
Snow is Rise, why are you being dumb on purpose. There is another Monster Hunter game, called Monster Hunter 6 by Capcom, currently in development for PS5, SeriesX/S and PC. This is a FACT.
And if "Monster Hunter 6" is in development, Rise can't be 6. And it can't be 5 either, because World is 5. So Rise is 5.5, Portable 5th, World 2.0, Ichinose's Masterpiece, call it however the frick you want but it's still part of Gen 5.
The current system in Rise could work, if they increased how many materials you need to craft a single charm. But once you have those materials, even if it takes 100 hunts to collect everything you need, you should be able to craft the exact charm you want.
It's a pretty good system at its core, because you're free to hunt whatever the frick you want, everything counts towards the score. It's the absolutely insane RNG that ruins it.
>The current system in Rise could work,
People would b***h that it's too grindy. Basically those gays are never gonna be happy unless they get all the best gear the moment they want it. There is no winning with those morons.
Why do they keep half assing the offline singleplayer in Monster Hunter? It seems like they want to tell a story, have characters, and even have party members that join you but they never fully committ to any of it and really half ass everything. It's almost like dragons dogma, 1/3 of the actual idea fully implemented.
>Why do they keep half assing the offline singleplayer in Monster Hunter
because no one plays monster hunter for the fricking story. give me a quick 30 second cutscene and be done with it
i like games more when the characters and story is set dressing for the gameplay. i hated how world handled it
>i like games more when the characters and story is set dressing for the gameplay.
that's fine for multiplayer and all but why even bother going through all the effort of creating lore, expensive Resident Evil/DMC tier mocap cutscenes, and more for the singleplayer side just to half ass it?
i dont feel its half assed tho. they just understand the appeal of monster hunter isnt in the story or cinematics. the cutscenes serve their purpose as quick transitions to further the plot, and the characters are charming and quirky without being shoved down your throat
Funny thing is that Rise clearly has more memorable characters than World despite its lack of prettier cinematics. Follower quests are really fricking endearing.
I think that's the right way to implement some sort of storytelling in a very MH-esque way, they definitively need to improve on those
Only Memorable character World had was Ace Cadet and he doesn't even originate from it
The only memorable character in World was the DB hunter who hangs out in the Hub and says "I'm ready to shred!"
That was a character?
Luchika and Jae are my favorite pair. I didn't even expect to like Jae but his interactions with a lot of the followers have mostly been fun.
On the other hand, I like Minoto and Galleus but I didn't expect them to literally not have any banter at all.
>Minoto and Galleus
They are basically the most opposite type of character you could get, no surprise there.
Oh no, I don't mean that specific pair but more in general. I have to admit I didn't try too many pairs since I almost always take Luchika but they still kinda stay quiet even from educated guesses where I thought they'd speak up. Maybe I should try more pairs.
I'm kinda peeved that quite a few follower pairings have 0 banter
World is carried hard by Chadmiral
The party members are new. I hope they iterate on them further in the next game instead of just axing them and saving them for DD2
You had AI hunta companions in 4 in some story quests.
Rusted Kush citadel one, for example.
I feel like SB actually did the story well. None of the characters overstayed their welcome and there's enough differentiation between them without being meme tier quirky like Handler or the Kamura residents. The ending was satisfying enough as well since there's a clear "final boss" plot thread from start to finish. Probably the most decently done MH story since 4.
Agreed, Sunbreak's story felt very organic and cohesive, and I legit cared about every character by the end. The fact that there's so much optional character Interaction via follower quests really adds a lot
>only 17 monsters at launch
>only 23 total after all updates
>iceborne had 27 at launch and 35 total
Tendies keep taking Ls
>he's still lying
Anon, 18 monsters were added at launch in Iceborne, you absolute mong.
What? How the frick are you counting that?
>He's still coping about 6 slots
Reminder that we're getting 5 monsters in Title Update 1 alone.
Who's the fifth?
Another variant, so either Chaotic Gore, Rusted Kushala, or Frostfang Barioth.
Just a reminder, after 1 update rise and Sunbreak will exceed world and iceborne.
>the default Sunbreak UI do be like that to some degree
>about to link to a friend of mine
>notice the troony shit
haha dilate your nasty inverted penis; oh man Ganker humor is so top notch these days.
Waiting until I can buy both for about 30 bucks.
Shitch has no games
i think rng mechanics are fine as long as it's an endgame thing that gives minor buffs to weapons/armor and encourages you to fight a variety of monsters
>rng is bad because I say so
Shut the frick up homosexual
Sure, Rathalos beats us on size on a scale of 2:1 but you see, the thing is, even the best Rathalos lasts for only up to 27 seconds. And some hunter who can go at it for literal days without rest > some 1 pump chump rath.
And that is a fact that Rathians do not know until they have experienced it firsthand. But let me tell you this Ace, once they know, then they KNOW. They become mighty docile, like a big goofy canyne. They won't even go anywhere near a Rathalos. And once they've got your scent, they come flying outta the woodworks right for ya. They'll give you everything Ace. Everything. They will roll over on their backs and go tummy side up just by you looking at 'em. And when they're in season, they start giving you this look in their eyes. And the scent of those pheromones gets mighty ripe. It will put some hair on your chest, you bet.
It's love, Ace. The purest form of love. Now get out there and get ready to thrash!
>tfw you can't actually wear any of Utsushi's hand-crafted masks except for the Zinogre
It hurts. It hurts SO MUCH.
I thought this was the 141 2/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice pasta for a second there.
Rathians are made for big black gravios lash
Can't wait to see what the tendie cope is when it turns out like everyone with a brain is saying and there are only 23 monsters total in poopbreak. Probably something along the lines of
>W-well, at least we were right about absolute filler trash like gore and espinas!
>filler trash like gore and espinas!
After a whole game+expansion of filler trash monsters, I'm happy to get filler trash like that lol
Honestly who thought World's roster was good?
Lavasioth?
The entire Rath clone set?
Banbaro?
Ice Lavasioth shark I can't remember the name of?
It was just pure filler.
Seething that the shitch is too weak for alatreon and fatalis
>Banbaro?
>Ice Lavasioth shark I can't remember the name of?
>It was just pure filler.
Funny enough, those were the "garangolm" and "lunagaron" of Iceborne
I wish they were as fun to hunt. I'll never get over the fact that they added a shitty moose before something cool.
Ice Lavasioth is unironically the best Piscine Wyvern they have ever made. Banbaro is also great, but holy frick why is he in every single map: he's fricking huge, he doesn't work anywhere except in Hoarfrost Reach. It's impossible to fight him in the Ancient Forest, all his attacks take the entire arena.
The only reason no one complains about him is because he becomes a complete pushover five hours into the game.
It doesn't have to be all or nothing. They could do something like this (numbers are just an example, but you get the idea):
1-skill charm: 50 points (early low rank)
2-skill charm, 200 points (late low rank)
3-skill charm: 800 points (early high rank)
4-skill charm: 3000 points (late high rank)
5-skill charm: 20000 points (best in slot)
If you want -almost- the best, 3000 points are fairly easy to farm. If you want the best charm in the game, you gotta put in the hours.
And they cold also easily integrate "corrupted lategame shitmons" into this system, by having them drops unique materials whose only purpose is to give a shitload of points, so if you're good at the game you can farm charms faster compared to ultranormies.
The point is, there are a million different things they could do that would be 1000 times better than gacha.
Currently high rank in base Rise, should I try gunlance or lance?
Try a real monster hunter
Yeah, I've like lots Generations Ultimate as an hammerbro
play gunlance while it doesn't boil down to bullet barrage spam and save lance for when it doesn't boil down to spiral thrust spam
Follow your heart.
Was the console war this bad when 3U came out?
>tfw no mh3u on vita
No but literally only because the playerbase is larger.
Man, I was one of the people begging for 4u on vita, and it wasn't nearly as bad as it is today. There's something fricking wrong in the head of the modern crop of snoys, the ones whose first console was a ps4 (maybe having a wii that was shared by the family when they were younger).
Not even remotely close prior to world at most we had one anon going
>tfw no mh on vita
And he was more a tradition by the end rather than console warring.
World genuinely broke the Sony fanbase because it didn't give them the attention they desired from tendies.
>put wow hud over a MH screenshot
>400+ replies
Ganker is worse than normal today huh
Because alost nobody even cared about the screenshot and just wanted a place to discuss the game? How horrible of Gankertards, truly the scum of the earth. I'm going back to twitter screencaps threads, now that's what Ganker is all about.
you can just have a normal thread instead of needing the 34 layers of post irony
nobody will judge you for liking monster hunter
Did you read the text of the OP..?
yes and it's quite in line with the image
the shit threads will die if people don't bump them
>did you like the game Ganker?
>not a normal MH thread
senpai fr no cap
read it a bit more closely, it's not an ESL trying his best to make a post it's deliberately written like shit to go with the shit image
I think you’re the one stuck on 30 layers of irony dude
moron apologists like you is why this board is getting worse by the day
We don't need 10 different threads because we think OP is a homosexual, which is always true anyway.
Cmon man, at this point you should know it doesn't matter, it's just an excuse to have a MH thread.
Sure, you get some post about that, but most people are talking about different shit anyway
>Fatalis and Alatreon leaked for the Winter update
I'm fricking tired of fighting these shitmons. Can't they just come up with new black dragons?
either post the leak or stop trolling
>shitting up Rise threads was Snoys fault
>shitting up World threads was also Snoys fault
God I fricking hate tendie Ganker. You subhumans can't even pretend to not be biased towards anything Nintendo. Also frick off with "I play on PC" cause I don't believe you. PCgays don't give a shit about console warring and wouldn't blame either.
Tendies always project, they've been ruining any discussion since world was announced to be too complex to run on a 7 year old fisher price tablet built out of 15 year old scrap parts
I never said I don't hate Sonys too so frick off.
>PCgays don't give a shit about console warring and wouldn't blame either.
you underestimate false flaggers
How come falseflaggers are always the people you don't agree with but never the ones you do?
Unless you really believe people shitting on rise are nintendo falseflaggers while people shitting on world are sony falseflaggers.
people on Ganker are fricking moronic
>You subhumans can't even pretend to not be biased towards anything Nintendo. Also frick off with "I play on PC" cause I don't believe you.
Is this supposed to be ironic?
>PCgays don't give a shit about console warring and wouldn't blame either.
Yeah not how it works especially when you piss us off as well. Being unbiased doesn't mean you can't point out a problem.
>you
>us
I'm playing Rise on my Switch homosexual. Suck my fricking wiener with your "I'm just calling it as I see it" bullshit.
>I'm playing Rise on my Switch
Okay? Then why do you give a shit about us calling out sonygays like everyone else?
Maybe it's because I'm not a fricking subhuman like you and I hate you frickers shitting up comfy MH threads with console warring.
>and I hate you frickers shitting up comfy MH threads with console warring.
How is it console warring if it's just answering a question?
Hell right now you're the one continuing this for longer than it should have.
I'm just calling you out for being the fricking hypocrite that you are. You're even worse than the Snoys cause at least they don't have the fricking audacity to b***h and moan about console warring while actively participating in it. Fricking have a nice day.
>I'm just calling you out for being the fricking hypocrite that you are
Do you even know what hypocrisy means? Of course you don't you're not even using the word correctly.
>at least they don't have the fricking audacity to b***h and moan about console warring while actively participating in it.
He said without a hint of irony, you're the only one participating in a console war AND you're complaining about console wars to boot.
What could have just been a simple one word answer of "sonygays fricked up these threads" you've blown into an entire reply chain simply because you want to defend them.
And that is hypocrisy.
Console warring piece of shit, and a moron. Not too surprising Yeah sorry, you aren't going to gaslight me into somehow being in the wrong here. It's you and only you.
>gaslight
There's that word again. Honestly it's like you people live to embarrass yourself.
Who's gaslighting you exactly?
Did you not start your rant by complaining about how Ganker was biased towards Nintendo and how its "impossible" for PCgays to point people shitting up the threads?
You're the only console warrior here anon.
>play on PC
>99% of the userbase cheats
>'I only use mods to fix the broken unfair rng'
>everyone has full bingbirds instantly and increases drop chances to the point of working to break specific parts irrelevant
>can't enjoy comfy online hunts without playing with cheating morons with modded in perfect speed troon charms
The pinnacle gaming race am I right reddit bros??
>playing with randoms
>uhhh hunting online sucks anyways!
A lot of people like hunting online with randoms. Pretending it's shit and no one does it is beyond stupid and purely a way to cope and dismiss those claims without having to accept it as true
solotrannies started with nintendo, rys
True solochads started with the PSP games, fren.
Only XLinkGIGACHADS got to play online back in the day.
I came to the point where I think Multi with friends>Solo
Litterally only ever touched it to do rampages because it was a chore to solo and who care if you cheated anything, it doesn't matter
Multiplayer hunting was never good.
Im running with you gayits or 2 of my rl buddies
So its not really a problem for me
Do you have a cheated in charm? You can lie to me if you want but...
>over 350k downloads
>350k pc players have multiple best possible cheated speedtroony charms
Reminder the Chinese exist
Gunlance is for gayet
>malzeno/gaismagorm = gore
>afflicted = frenzied
>TU "powered up monsters" = 4U apexs
I think we still miss some afflicted monsters, so we need those first
I want afflicted ass penis doing poison, fire, stun and blood with one attack
Someone said about a subspecies that inflicted sleep and blast, sound kinda fun too
>it pokes you once and fricks off
>you lie asleep with blast
>some time later you explode and die
It sounds ridiculous but I really like the idea of monsters who inflict a bunch of statuses. Having to pick which you resist, if any, is a fun idea. Almost choose-your-own-adventure style
Personally, I love the afflicted status.
Monsters are faster and they give me Bloodbornerallyblight so it's just an aggresive fight the whole time.
I can't wait for afflicted Tigrex.
Could you break Ceantaur's horn in the older games or is my memory fricking with me?
No!!! I don't want RNG! I want to do ONE QUEST, get ALL my items and never play the game again.
>want to make a Crit Boost deco
>need two Apex Blaze Sack
Please tell me there's an event quest for this shit so I don't have to do fricking Rampage?
You literally unlock them as normal hunts if you keep playing
if you're man enough, you can do the "apex rathalos emergency" event quest
>farming the emergency quests
Gigachad move, but not many people can pull it off
litterally the apex rathalos quest.
It does require for you to have done at least one rampage with rathalos, but at this point no way you didn't...right?
I thought it when I played World on PS4 and Rise on Switch while double dipping on both. PC is the worst place to play MH.
you didn't play the game
Eh
Switch = pc > ps4
Switch gets local play and a solid 30fps
Pc gets power and a stable 60+ framerate plus mods to fix things capcom won't like the handler.
Ps4 gets nothing.
PS4 gets soulful 2-minute long loading screens. Before and after each quest.
How long does it take the shitch to load world?
It depends: are you streaming it from PC or PS4?
Imagine actually having to wait for shit to load. Holy shit consoleBlack folk are subhuman.
Does anyone still play Stories 2? Ive been thinking about it recently cause i never played it.
I just played it recently while waiting for sunbreak and it was really fricking good. Quite a lot of stuff to do once you finish the story and some a genuine challenge, it took me a while before I was able to take down the metal raths.
Please dont tell me i just missed a sale on it
Sorry anon, it was 50% off about two weeks before sunbreak released, that's when I picked it up. Got around 80 hours out of it and really enjoyed it
Found a key for cheap, thanks man
Why isn't there crossplay with Switch and Steam?
steam users can't stop cheating
Crossplay requires Capcom to run their own servers again instead of just piggybacking on Steamworks or the console's networks
>almost every pc user is cheating
Thank frick there's no crossplay
PC chads I can stop cheating ohh I'm going to cheat again right now
>people are STILL seething about modding in legal charms
Holy shit. Why are nintendoBlack folk like this?
tendies spend 400 hours to get a wex2 no slots charm
>modding in legal charms
lol
I still don't get why they weren't happy of me stealing legal money
Wow that sure is an epic analogy, anon.
Just to make you seethe harder, I'd like to let you know that I have a modded Switch and I pirate every single game I play on it.
shh
One of the monster designers has a fetish for those weird double jawed fish
El Goblino Sharque Dragon
Naw Goblin sharks just have a floating jaw they can shoot forwards
It's these weird fricks they're just called Loosejaws
>Malacosteus niger
Only Vaal is based on these guys, Ibushi and Narwa's jaws are based on Eels
It does add a weird and unnerving component to a monster's design, and is a welcome change from the usual dinosaurs and dragons, so I'm not complaining.
moray?
What's wrong with PC players? Why are they unable to grasp the fact that charm grinding is a fundamental part of MH.
Why do you suddenly care about how people play?
Who's to say I didn't get my Attack 3, Wex 2, 3-1-1 charm legitimately, anon? It's RNG, anything is possible!
>charm grinding is a fundamental part of MH
This is the most nintendoBlack person post I've seen in a while.
Eat shit, moron. God, I fricking hate newbies so fricking much.
Don't you a PS5 to cry about?
Frick off Black person people cheated mantles and shit already back in 4U
Do I need to remind you of the hacked instakill cats
>no goblindrome
the biggest mistake for me, they had the chance to make an easy +1 monster people would have loved and missed the chance
I dunno what the deal is leaving out shitmons that take actually no effort beyond an armor model and like two unique weapons they had if any.
Sure they don't matter lategame but its more options for different skills early in HR/MR
>your friend has aggro!"
Speaking of which, does it actually mean anything when the other players shout "ITS TARGETING YOU!"?
It seems like that line gets spammed so often but monsters also change their position so often I'm not sure if it's a real response to the monster's targeting or just a line they blurt out randomly.
I think it's just the line they call out on a strong attack, or one that causes a pin state.
Voice lines?
anyone have a list of the legal charm combos, for reasons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a1v5vZ4O0wzFBmtrDCH9rtybmyH1bmNAUaXwEH1X7bY/htmlview#
For purely academic purposes, of course.
hmm interesting, thanks for the academic document anon
>cheating is a good thing!
the absolute state of nu-monhun
it's the "pc master race" in general, not just monhun
assuming it's mostly shitposters ITT but is gunlance THAT bad if you aren't a speed running autist? I'd imagine the average shitter with LS or GS won't get much butter kill times than the average GL players
Yeah moron. And ranged players get even better kill times.
ranged players don't actually play the game
No. It's just a group of discord troons trying to shit up mh threads.
Charms shouldnt be RNG. And before you say b-but world!! Decos shouldnt be rng either.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO BUT THERE'S NO HYPER RNG TREADMILL ENDGAME WHY WOULD I EVER BOTHER TO HUNT ANYTHING???????? THAT MAKES NO SENSE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH SAVE ME YELLOWMAAAAAAAAAAAN