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>people are saying it's too hard
this again
yes it is now
unless you abuse mechanics which is not fun
remember gwyndollin, remember the 4 kings? remembef beating gwin the final boss in 8 easy mouvements? souls game were hard but fair now they are hard and unfair. how many enemies have AOE attacks that triggers when you are too close to them, how many spam lasers when you are far, how many run away from you whenever you get an opportunity to attack, how many ruin your visibility to make flashy attacks.
it simply wasnt like that in dark souls 1 the challenge was clear and simple, now its just incoherent mess of thank god for RNGesus
Ask yourself this question, Is it impossible to beat or there are people beating the game right now?
Perhaps you are not as good as you think you are and you are not understanding what end game content means
Bro? Your reading comprehension?
actually they made a point that it wasnt suppoze to be endgame content they also said the story was disconnected from the main game which is fricking false and said that they would not do something as hard as malenia ever again which might be true im not sure yet....
fromsoft now lies, they are going in the worng direction like every other devs before them
Can your source every single one of those claims?
So the game can never be bad because someone can technically defeat a boss that requires inhuman reaction times and has enough HP for a successful attempt to last 8 hours?
Would you enjoy such a fight?
yes
if it can technically be beaten then it's good
you're just a shitter
>if it can technically be beaten then it's good
I have obligation, I dont care enough about a dumb fricking game to spend 4 hours on each boss
I want bosses to be challenging but I want to beat them within an hour
this shit just feels like a chore and just makes me feel the weight of the time Im wasting
I want to have fun so that the time melts away, I dont want to be thinking to myself "what the frick am I doing with my limited time on earth" while Im playing a game
the base game was fine btw, I loved it, but this sucks
>I dont care enough about a dumb fricking game to spend 4 hours on each boss
If you need 4 hours to figure out a boss, YOU SUCK.
GIT GOOD.
why are you pretending that rellana is not total bullshit without summons?
youre a fricking loser
People are beating her hitless you fricking moron, you jus suck at the game. Stop crying and git gud.
why do you think I give a shit that loser speedrunners who spend 8 hours a day slavishly playing soulsslop can no hit run the game?
obligations*
>if it can technically be beaten then it's good
to the lurkers just reading the thread, this is not a joke or shitposting. they genuinely believe this. this is the level of intelligence that you're dealing with when you try to have an honest discussion with a fromspic. these people are work jobs, are managers, and some of them even have some control over the lives of others.
it's terrifying.
Perhaps you’re not as smart as you think you are
drop your red sign
I'm going to 10-0 you in burg
>Perhaps you are not as good as you think you are and you are not understanding what end game content means
It's possible to beat the mysterious figure from KH:BBS. That doesn't mean it's well-designed.
When KH devs made a boss that was constantly aggressive, required you to dodge spam, and had very miniscule openings the KH fans criticized it because it made the boss unfun. The devs then learned from this and made awesome bosses in the KH3 DLC. The difficulty of fromsoft bosses comes from
>inconsistency in attack patterns
>bosses having no clear points when it's safe to attack them as for most bosses attacking them when they're not doing anything results in them attacking you in a way you can't adequately respond to as you've already committed to an animation
>difficult to read movements/poor camera especially in the case of larger bosses
having a physick tear that allows for perfect blocks is a step in the right direction but there's still plenty of room for improvements. Difficult =/= well designed. Fun boss fights are all about clear communication to the player of what the boss is about to do and when their openings are and allowing a decent back and forth between being defensive and offensive.
Skill issue. Literally have had zero problems with any boss except for Promised Consort which I was underpowered for or I would have rinsed his ass too. You’re just intellectualizing your own shortcomings.
>state clear things about fromsoft boss design that i dislike
>ignore actual points and just say skill issue
classic.
>I dislike this
This isn’t an argument, moron. Nobody is going to argue with your points because your points are steeped in subjective emotion and are also objectively incorrect. Just because you’re too bad at a video game to know where a bosses opening is doesn’t mean the boss design is actually bad, it means you’re stupid and not even half as good at this shit as you tell yourself.
> Nobody is going to argue with your points because your points are steeped in subjective emotion
How is bosses having inconsistent attack patterns down to subjective emotion? How is bosses not having clear points where it's safe to hit them down to subjective emotion? They're not. They're perfectly clear things that you just want to ignore because "i beat it therefore boss design good" as if boss design being good or bad is purely down to difficulty. It isn't. I swear to god it's impossible to criticize fromsoft boss design at all, even bosses i beat, without some moron going "hurr durr you're just bad." It's entirely possible to have a boss that's reasonable difficulty, but still poorly-designed.
Because those things aren’t true about the bosses. You’re just bad, can’t recognize them, and are blaming the game for your own lack of ability. Bosses have openings mid-string all of the time. Bosses do have consistent attack patterns. You just have a learning disability and can’t accept it.
Well said. Prefectly said, really.
Radahn is pretty close to impossible to beat alone.
Yes I do remember when the series had the "spam roll until obvious opening" pattern exclusively
Sorry that From added a couple more patterns to their pattern recognition combat mechanics to make it more interesting and you can't handle that.
Get fricking good.
>Yes I do remember when the series had the "spam roll until obvious opening" pattern exclusively
That is literally the DLC you fricking nogames moron
Still hardstuck on Blackgaol Knight I see.
>hardstuck
oh dude, get a job
I already have one, now it's your turn to get ____gud____
Doesnt change the fact that From has yet to match Dark Souls in quality. Appeal to the games getting better all you like, all I see is a downward spiral with a slight uptick at bloodborne
>in dark souls 1 the challenge was clear and simple, now its just incoherent mess of thank god for RNGesus
t. has not played a Souls game except for DS3, and that's still a maybe
You are not entitled to a victory screen
>abuse mechanics
you mean fricking exploring and gathering up scadu fragments? its the easiest shit in the world and its similar to the sekiro leveling. if you just level your shadow realm buff you play as normal, frick off.
Well chud, I know nothing about you but I am going to construct this image of you in my mind to have an easier time attacking you.
You are moron and a Black person who just didn't use the skibidis. I am certain, no, it is THE TRUTH that you have like 20 points in vigor and use no armor.
Btw you are too proud to just use summons and mimics. They are in the game bro just use them.
You are just some noob and this is your first Fromsoft game. Git gud, chud!
>emember the 4 kings?
I do...and its my favorite battle in the entire game
you had 2 whole years to learn how to jump anon
>try to dodge the fire tree stomps
>remember I can just jump and not get hit
I keep forgetting jump shame it doesn’t work on the double stomp attack
>unless you abuse mechanics
>NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO BABY DONT WANNA USE A SHIELD WWWWAAAAAAAAAHHH
lol, lmao.
>souls game were hard
No they werent. I'm so fricking sick of you mobile phone gamers.
Yes. If all you play is candy crush and Skyrim, you will struggle to comprehend the concept of pattern recognition, critical thinking and constructing a loadout tailored to solve a problem.
That does not make a game hard, it's just that video games have gone further and further in trying to reach the widest audience possible which means making the game accessible to the lowest common denominator.
That is you. These games aren't hard, gaming has just been moron proofed so hard that the slightest amount of having to act on your own is 'hard'.
Frick you.
The thought of actually reading item descriptions and thinking about synergistic combos is alien to these people. These worthless husks don’t even enjoy vidya they just want to feel included.
The only actual good game that FROM has ever made was Sekiro. everything else was garbage.
>a bloo bloo bloo
ahahahaha
It's funny seeing these posts after you've beat the bosses. It really does sound like a baby whining. I think I'm pretty average skill wise when it comes to games so when I see people saying it's too hard I just imagine that one cuphead clip
It was the same shit in Elden Ring launch, Alatreon launch on World, people get mad at the first days but the MOMENT youtubers posts strategies to "cheese" the boss everyone starts bragging how the game is easy.
The only valid complain against the DLC is that Scadutree Blessing is VITAL to faceroll the DLC, people are struggling early on because the Scadutree barely change shit, but with 10+ you start noticing that you can take 3-4 hits without panic healing and your attacks starts easily hitting 1k+
i want to reply to this post despite it being nearly an hour old to say that alatreon is actually not very fun to fight because it's an mmo dps style boss that hard requires certain playstyles, so some of the complaining about it was valid
What certain playstyles? Alatreon is the same as every other monster. Just keep hitting the head and forelegs with the correct element. Ezpz.
This. I avoided all discussion until I finished the DLC and seeing these posts makes me laugh. You guys aren’t even half as good as you think you are and I’m not even some god gamer.
this. alot of people getting exposed as frauds lmao
It's a shame because this DLC does have real criticisms. Like asset reuse, poor performance, weird lack of cutscenes for some of the notable bosses and events, and a lot of the rewards for exploring being smithing stones? Instead all we hear is "game 2 hard".
they had to add smithing stones for the new weapons though, otherwise people would cry that they can't max out whatever weapon they find as they already did that
they should have removed the crafting system so you don't find those shit materials instead
MAKE CORPSES GREAT AGAIN
I don't mind if it's the final tier upgrade stones since those are finite, but all the other ones can just be bought infinitely. It made sense base game since certain upgrades could only be found until you reach a certain area, but now it's filler when a good chunk of people coming are near endgame level. Just make it an enemy drop not a static one
>they had to add smithing stones for the new weapons though, otherwise people would cry that they can't max out whatever weapon they find as they already did that
I don't think I found a single somber 7 in the dlc. I already had like 4 somber 10s from the base game. Same with the ghost/glovewort distribution.
You're already post-mohg so you can just get the bell bearings anyway
>poor performance
I will shill for Fromsoftware, its their first game using Ray tracing, thats why it runs like complete garbage.
>weird lack of cutscenes for some of the notable bosses and event
It's weird, Messmer cutscene transition to Phase 2 is so long and its not because he spews a lot of words, no, its just because he has like 5 seconds of silence between lines and its so weird.
>asset reuse
IDK, for me its normal for DLC to reuse assets, we have pratically a "Dark Souls 3" game inside the DLC.
Agreed. I didn’t mind the asset reuse since it makes sense being an expansion to the base game and what actually happens in the narrative. The lack of cutscenes for some stuff was unfortunate and I feel like we should have gotten more after beating the final boss. The smithing stones being rewards I think was intended to make you more willing to upgrade the new weapons at will but if you don’t need those stones then they’re basically just a useless item and that feels bad.
>weird lack of cutscenes for some of the notable bosses and events
Yeah, it's weird. It's out of character for me to complain about the lack of cutscenes in these games of all things but it is strange how the entrance of the DLC was uneventful and how the introduction of the bosses was minimal considering how big of a deal they are. Guess they put their cutscene budget on something else.
Anon, all of these games have only ever given cutscenes to the main story bosses. Optional bosses hardly ever get cutscenes.
I guarantee you aren't soloing them
I am, it's not that hard literally get tree fragments, upgrade yourself, learn patterns, and use the games buffs like steamed crab, golden vow, and put make the wonderous physick something other than an extra heal to give yourself that extra edge
>tree fragments
you didn't beat the dlc
Frick off to Dark Souls then you whiner.
This has been a problem since Bloodborne and got worse with DS3 and its DLC, I don't know why people ate those up but are complaining now
>he told the truth
Remember Jesus got crucified for speaking the truth
>morons refuse to use summon and then call the game too hard
Did you know there are 2 questlines with the main rewards being summon signs for the final boss?
>make an enemy with gorrilion HP and DMG that needs 500 hits to die and kills you in 1 hit
>"GIT-GUD! L2P CASUAL!"
fromdrones are fricking obnoxious
making an enemy unreasonably difficult is a flaw
not to mention that they do it to inflate the play time
>its not impossible so its fine
people have done runs of entire souls series without getting hit
that does not mean that (for example) making a DLC where you die in one hit(but otherwise everything else stays the same) would be a good idea?
>that does not mean that (for example) making a DLC where you die in one hit(but otherwise everything else stays the same) would be a good idea?
they did, it's called Shadows of the Erdtree lmfao
>shield
didn't beat the game
unironically, its your problem. you just aren't playing right, bosses aren't that tough and they arent that strong. use the fricking skibidi shards moron
yeah have fun with the last boss or messmer even at +10 or above
I beat messmer yesterday at +8, it was really fun. I couldn't even be mad, died like 40 times.
hard because of miquellas gay penis in your butthole when you die
>check reviews
>36% of negatives reviews come from China
I'm starting to notice things..
all in preparation for their wukong shit
If it's hard it can't be bad
Lies of p had a lot of this shit too and it lead them to nerf it into care bear difficulty. Damned shame.
You're very quickly going to see the common Ganker position become "it's too hard!" because hating Souls games is cool now (Elden Ring got too popular) and it's the easiest way to complain about the game.
I thought ER was piss easy? Ganker told me these things this past 2 years now.
base game is piss easy, dlc just adds some new exploration grind that they balanced around so bosses are op until you get some of that sweet sweet ska-badabadabadoo-belidabbelydabbladabbladabblabab-belibabbelibabbelibabbelabbelo-doobelidoo fragments
sort of like Margit being the "first" boss but sort of kicks you out of the house to go explore the game, the new bosses do the same
issue is the shit you fight up to the boss is still piss easy, so you expect the boss to be the same
>dlc just adds some new exploration grind
Mitsubishi copies Genshin shit design and chinks hate, LMAO.
I mean the dlc is piss easy too if you have no shame and summons and a greatshield.
Only as hard as you want it to be remember that
Go back
Dude, literally every boss is harder than Malenia and Malenia was the hardest Fromsoft boss ever.
yeah, it is
theres a reason why the base game is overwhelmingly positive while people who enjoyed the base game and 100%'d it (like me) find this expansion to be a total slog, the bosses are not even fun
thats not even to mention that nothing has any context so none of the bosses feel like they carry any weight
Overtuned is the better way to describe it. The boss design is identical to the base game, they just kill you in two hits no matter what your level and stats are and you do frick all damage in turn. Collecting the scat tree items does little to help and some of them are locked behind bosses so you have to wander the whole area, or save time and look up a map with the locations
ER probably owes some of it's mass appeal because it's easy to become overpowered or use cheese so everyone has an avenue to beat it. I always used UGS in every souls game but they turn ER bosses into easy mode with the poise break and it felt cheap. The DLC enemies counter a lot of cheese and you can't go grind and come back stronger since it's already tuned to high level builds. You either give up and use summoning/ashes or actually learn the boss movesets through trial and error like they want you to do.
many such cases, elden ring base game players were not the community ready to experience an actual challenge
Boring shitty game design doesn´t equal being hard.
Then why can't you beat it?
I can. If I put a plate of shit in front of you and you choose to not eat it, is it fair for me to say that you're a pussy who can't gulp it down?
Don't bother answering. I'm not replying to a shitskin moron again.
we know youre lying is the thing, youre actually just mad you can't beat it. saying its shit is your cope to justify your b***hing and quitting.
Because why I bother wasting my time in a boring game, dipshit...
Because you suck, moron. Git gud.
These analogies don't work, because the problem is you simply lack skill. Git gud.
>Because you suck, moron. Git gud.
How much i will enjoy rape and kill "people" like you.
>broken English
>wants to rape people
Indian exposed. Wrap it up here folks.
You heard the "git gud" spawmer anons...
>spawmer
learn english raj
No
Vete a la mierda
>brown
knew it
>brown
>mierda
Bet you knew this A1 Spanish lesson anon.
>its boring because... it just is okay!
the fun I had was imaginary, dang. you know since the dawn of these games your types have had the same cycle of dumb criticisms drummed up from thin air to deflect away from the idea your frustration is the actual issue at hand.
Keep sucking Miyazaki´s wiener anon, nothing bad will ever happen at this point.
Trust me.
FPBP. People git uninstall gud and now are shocked they have to git gud.
it's over
its a mix of people saying the game is too hard and shitty pc port, with a small hint of complaining about reused assets.
>Complaining about a FromSoft game being to hard
Happens everytime because FOMO homosexuals get filtered, they get too hyped for a game they dont know nothing about then they cry about it for a while and thats it. Then theres the fatasses ``umm Ive beaten every souls game`` thinking if they cant beat a boss in under 5 minutes the shit its unbalanced just because they cant accept new challenges
>make up your mind
AAAAAARGGHH EVERYONE MUST HAVE THE SAME OPINION
i love the fact that elden ring has completely buckbroken you discord troons.
Happened when the game first released. Bandwagoners got BTFO by the game actually having a challenge even though base Elden Ring is the easiest one.
From has had a metadesign problem since 2. I like Dark Souls, give me a sequel to it. I dont need the devs winking at me as if they know I know how i-frames work, and I dont need bosses doing psychotic attack strings that end in rollcatches, or bosses fricking sitting in preattack baiting my roll to attack, its too meta and its stupid looking.
>I dont need the devs winking at me as if they know I know how i-frames work
This is the root source of the flanderization. When people started abusing i-frames in the early games From should have responded by gutting them. Instead they gutted poise/blocking and started building entire games for the people that stripped naked and rolled forward into the stomach of the boss as it body slammed them.
Pretty much this. I remember not using rolls a lot during my first time playing DS1, but then I saw folks online trivializing the game with it, so I started abusing it, too.
Ganker killed my hype for this game. might not even get it
I felt like id had my fill before I even beat ER its so padded with nothing content
This. I made a new character and by the time I get to the capital I just can't force myself to play more. Nothing left to work towards build wise and still like, half a game to play lmao.
Honestly, you should judge for yourself off gameplay and if you think a big game looks good then don't even bother entering threads on here because it'll just be full of shitposters looking to endlessly whine about every little thing and make everyone else as miserable as they are. Post quality has an inverse correlation with the popularity of a game on here. For every genuine critique there will be 90 posts that are just bait or some homosexual crying. Only niche games that most of the board doesn't recognize really get sincere discussion anymore.
For the record, I haven't even played Elden Ring, I just fell for the clickbait OP. It's pretty obvious from the few ER threads I've entered that it'd even less worth my time browsing them if I had any real interest in the game.
This.
The one thing anon said in a thread when ER first came out that stuck with me was the game is "wide as an ocean but deep as a puddle"
I was even gifted the game but attempting to play it just felt like none of it matters.
Plus this place made me feel like everything popular is reddit and I don't want to be reddit, so I don't play new games - I wait several years when the hype dies down.
I remember this board's reaction to the pc port of ds1 dropping. Chaos, seething, people crying that this or that boss is impossible or unfair.
The capra demon especially generated thread after thread of incoherent screeching and shitting about the games difficulty.
Dark Souls 1: A game that most of Ganker could sleepwalk through by now.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
>Chaos, seething, people crying that this or that boss is impossible or unfair.
It was mostly shitposting though.
Now the casuals are serious and they demand to be taken seriously.
Just throw them a "git gud" to make them seethe more every time you see them.
>90% of the reviews are from China
where is that Tencent schizo moron when you need him
um discordsisters.. OUR NARRATIVE?
Bug men don’t like game if they can’t cheat in it.
UHH.. TORTANICBROS?
but of course
>chinese mfs when they cant pay to win gache
lmao
embarrassing
wrap it up doomposters, was wondering why only 10 negative reviews showed up in english in the first place
these homies cheat in every online game why don't they cheat in single player games
why am I not surprised the same demographic that pays their way through P2W games get assblasted by semi difficult games?
why can't we just fricking firewall commie chinks and indians out of the internet and Western borders already
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh ret me buy one hit sword japanese man
>people complaining were no skill bugs this whole time who've been conditioned on gacha P2W trash
lmao, Miyazaki literally filtered a billion+ population country
Maybe I'm being a schizo here, but for me this chinese hate campaing looks like a way to guarantee that Black Myth Wukong gets GOTY.
would changs do that? shamelessly review bomb a competitor rather than allow their game to stand on its own merit? would SHAZAMBlack folk be stupid enough to aid and abet chi-coms, the direct enemies of the Jeet in numerous Himalayan border skirmishes with actual nail bats and spears?
I don't think so, at least for consciously sabotaging. Chinks are just shit at video games. I noticed they review bombed Rotwood and I thought it was in a good spot in difficulty, just barren in content. They'll definitely praise the hell out of Wukong when it does come out though. I really hate that they're not segregated because I have to double-check random review totals now. They're a hivemind of heavily biased shitters.
>Chinks when the games has no p2w gatcha
Based Chinks having alpha male tier tastes while western soiboys eat up the fromsloppa.
I’m going to wait at least a month, by then Fromsoft will probably lessen the difficulty by a tiny bit. They did it with the main game, they’ll do it here as well.
>2 years of waiting for a DLC about how charming and sexy Miquellas little pink bussy is. Also heres 10 shots of Miquellas sexy feet HNNGGGGGGHHHH
I am done with Miyazakis fetishes, holy frick
>DLC bosses actually assblast the Mimic Tear
>a chorus of casuals crying about their crutch being kicked away from them
You love to see it.
Hope From doesn't cave in and nerf some things like Sennesax.
What they did to Radahn is a disgrace to this day.
why are people pushing the "too hard" narrative? a lot of people complain about the shitty performance
is anyone using only armor/weapons exclusive to the DLC? apparently the DLC is easier when doing so.
It just keeps dropping
>The mixed reviews emoji is a literal "It's over" face
Pottery
This is starfield all over again
It took well over a month for Starfield to reach mixed.
If it's too hard, its because you don't have enough skibbidy fragments. Go explore.
shitty bosses aside the game runs worse than it did day 1 with all the stuttering before the fixes
Twitter thread? Where? Must be your imagination.
I paid $3000 for my PC I should NOT be getting these stutters
Frick From
Frick MIYAZAKI
I will NEVER purchase another FromSoft product until these issues are resolved
Re
Fricking
Funded
are we making shit up again shazamsisters
As always
Shadow of the 95
>parry or die: the DLC
if i wanted to play sekiro you should have made a fricking sekiro DLC
>chinese
>people
Is it normal for Fromsoft DLC to have little presentation?
>No intro cutscene
>Starting area feels less full than the actual starting area
>Completely different leveling system
>Lot of geometry to get pinned against
I mean when you consider that old games like Another Age and Nine Breaker were glorified DLC and they also had barely any introduction yeah
>Is it normal for Fromsoft DLC to have little presentation?
yes?
>DS 1: THe access to DLC is "hidden" behind a boss you have to kill and later come back so you get the start.
>DS 2: The DLC´s are just keys to places you can access with no warning of it.
>DS 3: The DLC just starts when you talk to an NPC on a church.
>None of them had cinematic opening and the info you get about it is inside like any other info on the game.
Wait until it gets patched and fixed before playing otherwise its alright
Mizayaki is the new Todd Howard. Lightning in a bottle years ago and don't improve just feed off nostalgia morons.
DOES THE DLC EVEN HAVE ANY NEW FRICKING WEAPONS, IVE FOUND 2 WEAPONS SO FAR FROM THE FRICKING BOSSES AND THEY ARE FRICKING LITERAL CARBON COPIES OF WEAPONS FROM THE BASE GAME THEY DIDNT EVEN CHANGE THE COLOR OR NOTHIN. RENELLAS SWORD IS THE FRICKING BLUE TROLL SWORD EXACTLY LMFAO.
>DOES THE DLC EVEN HAVE ANY NEW FRICKING WEAPONS
Yes? I has plenty. It even has two types of frickhuge katanas for the weebs.
I gotten beast claws, perfume bottles, light sword that have dual stance, and giant katana (Ōdachi)
where did you find the fire bottles?
ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ATTACK ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL JUMP ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ATTACK ROLL ROLL ROLL
Enough about fighting Renalla.
>he roll-spammed Rellana
Use a shield, homie
>DS3 tips
Bro just dodge this way when the boss does that
>Elden Ring tips
Bro just use a different build or summon
>different tactics are bad because... BECAUSE I WANT TO UNGA BUNGA OK
You don't need to swap out your entire build to adapt
>different sexes are bad because... BECAUSE I WANT TO FRICK WOMEN ONLY OK
>he had to roll for Rellana
lol
last boss:
>roll roll roll roll roll roll DODGE LASER BEAMS roll roll roll DODGE RAPID SLAMS roll roll roll RUN OUT OF GIGANTIC AOE BLAST
Has anyone called it "shadow of the derptree" yet if not I am claiming it
wtf i can't tank every hit with my generic strength build, game is shit
People are just coming to realize the flaws of this game because the DLC removed their crutches.
Elden Ring was a pretty flawed game for multiple reasons. Boss design and open world design are the main two, but the overwhelming majority of people looked over the crappy boss design because the game provides numerous crutches that make the game really easy. 95% of people used these crutches. The DLC is exposing what the boss design is like without having those crutches to save you and people are getting upset.
For me, I found the base game unfun with or without these crutches. It was just too hard without the crutches, that it felt like a parody of all their past games. I did beat the whole game without crutches, but found it unsatisfying in the end. Using the crutches, such as spirit ashes, was equally unsatisfying as the game became too easy because you are basically abusing the enemies crappy AI.
Shitter detected, they left all the crutches in, even summing which should have never made it into the game
Skill issue.
spirit ashes is the remedy to bosses nonstop attacking, because you actually get to press r1.
>Fought Blackgaol Knight without any Skibidis
>"Frick this is hard"
>Beat him in about an hour
>Fought Rellanna at Skibidi 2
>"Frick this is hard"
>Beat her in about an hour
>Fought Scorpionpede Rotwife
>"Frick this is hard"
>Beat her in about 30 minutes
>Fought Messmer
>"Frick this is hard"
>Beat him in about 3 hours
>Fought Bayle
>"Jesus christ"
>Beat him in about 3 hours
>Presently at Final Boss
>"Frick this is hard"
I'm gonna make it bros, just one last push and I'll have gotten GUD
>8 and a half hours just on bosses
From is a parody of itself at this point, holy christ.
What do you mean anon?
He wants to walk in a theme park kind game
now post your golden hippo stats
I wanna say that was honestly about 30-ish minutes as well, although my problem was less how difficult his moveset was to deal with as much as his damage was fricking INSANE at that time. I didn't feel bad for the time lost to the Hippo because now that I see others had much, much worse times than I did, I'd say I safely cruised through in a non-embarrassing manner.
I forgot to mention Gaius, who was easily 2 hours of effort for me. That was a motherfricker of a fight.
Not him, first try got a stagger at about 50%, did a charge attack or two + the riposte
I had already done Rellana and budlight by that point though.
How do you check what country negative reviews are coming from?
>literally every single person in the world hates Fromsoft now
How did they frick up this bad?
>IS THAT A HUMANOID BOSS I CAN'T CHAIN STAGGER BY GANGING ON IT WITH MY MIMIC TEAR?
>AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS GAME IS FLAWED THESE BOSSES ARE FLAWED, BOSS DESIGN IS SHIT, THIS GAME IS SHIT, FRICK FRICK FRICK, I NEED TO LEAVE A NEGATIVE REVIEW RIGHT NOW
I find it funny the complains because I see throught their lies, people never saw their mimic tear +10 die for nothing in the base game, now they die killing normal mobs
Do you wonder why Rennala is a huge brick for most players? Because she doesn't have a summoning sign next to her, so you can only summon people that are putting manually their summon signs, meaning that are only people that are willing to help or people that are stuck on the fight and hope to learn something getting summoned to help another player stuck on her.
So far the only boss that even got close killing my tear was the bear how the frick are people that bad that normal mobs are killing their tear?
just killed this guy with martial arts and I'm just going to assume we're going back to Dark Souls 2 from here on out
I was kind of expected him to have a second phase
Yep, its Dark Souls 2 level of DLC, IF you don't get Scadudle fragments, I only had problem with the first bosses, the moment I got 5+ scadudle it was faceroll, now with 13 I hit bosses with 2k in every single hit LMAO.
>hit boss 2k every hit
>has 40k+ hp
>only get one hit per attack string they do if they haven't moved 30 yards away from you in between attacks
>he doesn’t know that bosses have openings during their attack strings that you can exploit
Another shitter exposed.
>using anything smaller than a greatweapon
Still plenty of openings mid-string for slower weapons. You’re just bad.
first comes the hype, the purchases and positive votes before the game is even out
then the game releases and the disappointment and the anger rises with yet another fromslop!
Mother of fingers, more like mother of go frick yourself Black person boss
I already beat it. The final boss is the only hard boss. Every other boss folds like a lawn chair to a decent build provided you actually explored and collected skadu fragments.
>provided you cheesed the game and wasted your own time at the same time
IDK man, who is the biggest moronic here? You that is spending time dooming a game that you are not playing or the player that played the game, enjoyed the journey, abused every mechanic of the game and came to this thread just to brag about it?
>IDK man, who is the biggest moronic here?
you
>used game mechanics
>YOU CHEESED IT
Lmfao you people are so bad at video games.
>cheese
The quality of bait just keeps dropping, I cant imagine anyone is actually seething this hard that the best DLC of all time is fun
>Elden Ring will be awarded for its efforts
>Elden Ring WILL be remembered as one of the best games ever released
>Elden Ring is still selling new copies after hitting 25 million sales
>You will seethe or bait unsatisfied with your inability to cope
>best DLC of all time
This is not even the best in the series. Agree that the cheese post is bait, though.
Hey man you can keep using your shit build, ignoring game mechanics and complaining the game is to hard. I'm going to go finish it.
>collected skadu fragments.
You did not beat the game.
>Pay money for DLC
>Waste hours making it so easy it's braindesd instead of actually enjoying the content
>Ruin all first experiences of the bosses for yourself since you just faceroll them
Why do people play like this? You might as well have used Cheat Engine and saved yourself the hassle of finding the fragments.
Holy shit skadudle fragments make you like a god, my spear is hitting for like 1k to 1.1k against normal soldier dudes but enemies on limgrave only take like 400 damage and I'm level 15 on the skadudled metrics, level 20 can one shot everything on the game LMAO.
Apparently, chinese people can't access steam community to just have discussion so they always use the reviews as impromptu conversation.
its over for the bugs
Skill issue
wasnt trannies complaining about elden ring being hard on released ?
>Get influenced by paid streamers
>Buy game series know for being bullshit hard
>Get butthole opened up by said game
>.......
>ITS TOO HARD!!!
Honestly it never gets old,i wonder if souls games would even be popular if people didnt share cheese tech online.
The issue is that it's hard in a very different and (imo) far less fun way than the previous Souls games.
Ninja Gaiden is hard, but it's not hard in a way I like, so I don't play it. Dark Souls is hard, but it's hard in a way I like, so I play it.
ER pretends to be Dark Souls 2.0 but it's actually Ninja Gaiden Lite. Especially Malenia, who has a Sekiro moveset for some reason.
Dlc bosses fight like nioh 2 except you still fight like demon souls
I already beat it 30+ bosses and final one in 20hrs, its not hard but it's boring
I don't like dodging 50combos from bosses then poke one time combat system
Gotta love people that don't like a game playing it for clout or to fit in. Nothing more pathetic and Ganker is full of these subhumans.
Exactly. This is just a regression back to the mean. If you don't gatekeep early on, you'll have to filter them later, when the consequences will be worse.
Gotta love subhuman bugmen living through the industrial garbage they consume and taking it personally when you criticize the product they slurp on.
>criticize
>"it's too hard for me :("
It's not hard, because I can just pop mimic tear and rape everything. The bosses just aren't fun to fight. Ape
>it's bad because I can only play it on easy mode :~~*(
That pajeet has been defending the game for hours straight and he won't ever debate in good faith.
I can tell it's him, because he writes the same shit every time. I just wonder why he's not playing the game he loves so much kek.
There are literal paid shills that have been spamming advertisements about this DLC for a solid week, astroturfing hype as per the usual practice for AAA releases. It would not be surprising at all if their contract ran for a couple of weeks after release.
Guaranteed jeets, kek. Probably making like 5 rupees an hour doing it as a side job whilst they "code" or sit in a call center.
Wouldn't be surprised it they actually helped code this shitty ass dlc.
imagine having a dedicated invulnerability frames button and saying a game is too hard
imagine zoomers beating Contra for the snes
ngmi
Im sure mario 64 would filter millions
Just drop mimic and live with the shame if you suck. Simple as that.
I completely understand. Playing Ys on Nightmare/Inferno is more my speed. I have no patience for Souls-like difficulty.
>casuls complaining it's too hard
Leave, no one wants you.
>pcBlack folk ragginh now but in a year when it's optimized they'll say it's the greatest game ever
>Make up your mind people
Can journo simps go one day without talking like gay morons?
Why did Rellana receive zero fricking fanfare? You just walk into an embarrassingly bland arena and she bum rushes you. No dialogue, no cutscene, nothing.
Because frick you?
they only had years to work on the dlc, things had to be cut to meet the deadline. plz understand
Git gud has never been more accurate. Frick work sucks. I might not have enough free time to beat the dlc before they patch it to games journalist difficulty.
I just refunded after I couldn't kill some naked guy with claws and a jump scare sound.
It truly is the Sekiro sequel
>POPULAR GAME BAD
Why are Gankerminges ALWAYS like this? Christ. And unironically complaining about the difficulty on Ganker? Are you a game journo? Subhuman
>people complain about difficulty in a dlc with a system that Buffs your damage and damage negation by a flat 5% 20 fricking times.
I hope you guys know scadu does go to level 20..so if you're wondering why your level 7 ass can't mill messmer that might be why. I can't understand why people are so afraid to just explore the fricking game they paid for instead of smashing their head into a wall expecting different outcomes.
Because for these subhumans it’s about saying they beat the game and not the enjoyment of the game.
Elden Ring is objectively an unenjoyable game, though.
Is this the most shitter tears a game has ever gotten? Miyazaki is a god damn genius.
This is what happens when a hobby goes mainstream. People are complaining about a game that's not really for them.
It will be nerfed though see you then
I DID beat the game
>game gets faster and more and more about boss fights like the difference between ds1 and ds3 to appeal to normalgays, to the point where you have women, children, vtumors, streamers, doing their epic 700 death rage diffikult boss fight
>this is apparently not for them
This. You don't see me complaining that a particular score of music is too difficult to play on the piano (which I don't know how to play). Everything doesn't need to be accessible to everyone.
It's that the sheet music is for violin and all you have is a contrabassoon.
lmao literal washed up PORNSTARS are playing this garbage. You from drones are so delusional. This is by normalgays for normalgays.
And they’re having a great time and will finish the game while people on Ganker continue to claim that they’re not bad it’s that the game is bad as they die to Rellana for the 300th time.
that's literally what he said you dumbfrick
And if they change the difficulty, it should only become harder. Do not kneel to these homosexuals.
scoobysnacks are a fine medium to allow "get gud" morons to act like they are better as they get the same achievement as people that use it
After hours of testing a way to cheese the fire golems I just found out that the Death poker from deathbird can stagger the fire golems with a 2x L2 + R1 on their legs, each dot of the flame on their feet helps staggering the enemy.
Now its time to hunt them on the maps lmao.
>he doesn’t know
Some of them have armored legs which take no damage and the only way to kill then is to either shoot their face or throw hefty pots into the furnace from above.
im surprised people arent mentioning the stealth section. that was terrible
Why do soulgays think not liking the DLC or complaining about bosses means you CANT kill them? Just because I beat them does not mean it was enjoyable
Seems weird that you forced yourself to do something you didn’t even enjoy for many hours just so you could post about how much fun you didn’t have.
listen man, you're moronic. how am I suppose to be able to criticize things if I don't partake in said thing? I like some things about the game, like the shadow keep, fist weapons, the butcher axe that heals on it.. poor boss design, empty map, bad rewards, random stuttering are issues that not only I have but others do to. I didn't force myself to do anything.
>how am I suppose to be able to criticize things if I don't partake in said thing?
because he's a fromslopper and he lacks iq
Partaking in things you don’t like for the express purpose of telling people how much you didn’t like it makes you a mentally ill moron.
>nooo you can't criticize something you enjoy!
so by your logic movie critics, game journos, food critics, are mentally ill morons
But you’re not critiquing. You’re complaining about how hard it is for YOU. You’re coming up with excuses on why it’s not actually a skill issue when if is a skill issue. The actual problems with the game aren’t being brought up and discussed just how difficult it is for YOU. homosexual.
Black person plenty of people have given criticism, the performance, boss design, level scaling, even the dumbass final boss have been brought up in reviews but no whatever we say gets handwaved. YOU are a fromsoftBlack person end of story
He's a fromhomosexual from the worst kind. I have seen tendies and snoys more well behaved than this. He will slurp anything Fromslop throws at him, no matter how moronic it is. I bet he can't even find any negative trait in the game, it's all perfect.
>you’re moronic
>that’s why I do things I know I don’t like so that I can tell people on Ganker how much I didn’t like them
>but you’re the moronic one
Drink bleach immediately.
its called discussion you rollmonkey. I suppose you just want people only talking about things if they're sucking it off? keep being a fanboy or whatever
It’s not discussion. It’s the same old bullshit being parroted since release about the game. You guys are stupid and bad at games so you get mad when the game hurts your ego. I get it. But you’re not discussing anything you’re whining about things that aren’t a problem because you personally are too inept. If you want to have a discussion then actually discuss things about the game that aren’t just whining about how a boss made you feel like a little boy again. Maybe discuss the actual problems like the over abundance of upgrade materials or the skadu fragments which will make replays of the DLC super annoying. b***hing about the bosses and calling the game bad because the game doesn’t just let you win isn’t a discussion it’s just you coping with your fragile baby ego.
>replay
the drone just outs himself. I enjoyed the base game and am giving my real thoughts about the DLC. something that you people don't understand that if many people have similar thoughts then maybe theres something to it other than "git gud" go watch a lore video essay or something, dork
>argumentum ad populum
9/10 doctors agree that you should commit suicide tonight
but 9/10 doctors agreeing would be the popular choice you complete idiot.
>brush off any criticism of your game with "you didn't play it/you didn't beat it"
>anon offers criticism of the game he's played it
>"uhmm why'd you even play it then moron"
kys
>my criticism is that the bosses were too hard for me so the game is bad
lol.
Bros am I moronic or are you guys trying to pull a fast one on this Mongolian basket-weaving tutorial forum?
I think you are in a different page?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2778580/ELDEN_RING_Shadow_of_the_Erdtree/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2778590/ELDEN_RING_Shadow_of_the_Erdtree_Premium_Bundle/
Oh, so I am moronic. Thank you.
Weapon upgrades should be tied to your character, so u don't have to upgrade 900 weapons to test.
Then just make the dlc ones a separate pool
Why dont these morons just use mimic tear? It literally breaks the game especially if you use 2 colossal weapons. It actually breaks the game.
>just one shotted the scorpion lady
Shame, was expecting more, her attacks barely drain stamina with a shield.
At this point I think Tanimura and Miyazaki are just cooking slop on purpose to piss off the morons still buying soulslop so they can move on to new ips.
The problem is that they still praise it.
I'm just done visiting an area of the game that's reusing ER assets: optional dungeon's boss, the fat dragon vomiting magma all over the floor, the ulcerated spirit, horrible shit mini bosses I already beat in THE BASE GAME, rats, wolves and reskinned soldiers, some fat obese trolls in a lame and stale elden ring cave, new annoying bird enemies dropped all over a big flat boring plateau with nothing of substance about it ( its empty and they just copy paste dragon statues to make do ) and I'm like "was this thing created by an AI?". But of course, fromdrones will eat it up and call the developers "geniuses".
I'm paying 40 bucks to fights trash I fought in ER already and to explore empty plains where the new enemies are put randomly here and there to fill the void left by the atrocious open world level design.
>Alatreon all over again
Why are capital G "Gamers" such precious little homosexuals?
Base game issues are taken to an extreme here. Bosses have an absurd amount of health and deal an absurd amount of damage, which makes actually learning the fight frustrating instead of fun. On the flip side, they can still be cheesed with mimic tear and are still weak to the same ashes and builds that make the base game trivial. There is no real sense of accomplishment, even without summons.
I like running around the pretty scenery and slapping things with my whips. Just beat Rellana.
I like it overall but yeah giving every boss massive health pools gets old fast.
>dlc is mixed because it actually sucks
>dlc is mixed because people suck at it and say it its too hard that it sucks
>dlc is mixed because of chinks reviewbombing it for another game
what is it then?
See
Well, whats your point? All those 3 statements can be true at the same time.
#1, and #2 and #3 is just cope
no different than when the leak came out about the last boss
factor 3, 2, 1 in that order of importance. Changs are duplicitous, changs and shitters are both bad, DLC has rough edges and weird lethal tuning in places.
>dlc is mixed because it actually sucks
Anything other than this is just simply moron tier cope. There has literally never once been a good game that was "mixed" on Steam.
>it's another charge attack with a frame perfect dodge window
>it's another divebomb aoe attack that can't be avoided no matter when you dodge
enough is enough
You don't know what a frame is, there is no FRAME PERFECT dodge in this game, there is FRAME PERFECT skips and other speedtrannies strategies, combat is pretty shill because you have 13 frames.
>he doesn’t know how to attack mid enemy-string to use their own animations against them
You idiots literally wait for “your turn” instead of finding the openings in their attacks.
>hit an e boss mid-string
>i chip him for 3% of his hp
>he chips me for 60% of my hp
wow that sure was worth it!!!!
Yeah, but you have 13 frames per dodge, a shield, 10+ heals, so its fair.
How did people not see the writings on the wall in the direction of boss design after shit like Malenia, Malekith, the mechanics of how Morgott functions etc.?
If you somehow thought bosses would be more chill and a step back to the Souls games after the success of ER you are a fricking idiot. I don't mind hard games, but the difficulty of what ER presents in its late game and evidently DLC is not my kind of fun. Spastic bosses with excessive combos, over the top visuals and often times an atrocious camera that give minimal room for retaliation or mistakes aren't very enjoyable when you yourself are slow as shit in comparison. I don't need to waste $40 to see how fricking obnoxious shit like Dancing Lion, Golden Hippo or Gay Radahn are with either camera going insane if you try to lock on or pulling shit off off-screen because you can't angle the camera to see shit without lock-on, on-top of particle effects covering the screen as well. I've beaten ER without ashes and that's precisely why I knew the DLC wouldn't be for me.
It’s not that serious. From will just nerf the enemies in a patch in the coming week and everyone will be happy
Are the sheep finally realising that Fromshit is an Ubisoft tier creatively bankrupt shithouse copypasting everything worse than CoD?
>6 Demon's Souls sequels later
What drives you losers to spend your lives b***hing about games that for some reason offend you?
it's not even tortanic shit, you'll whine even about the most successful games ever made
>BWAAH BWAAAH STOP CRITICIZING MY SLOPPA
die filth
I explained why I'm pissed. I paid for this shit:
Boss design in this DLC is SHIT, except Messmer and he's got some problems too.
messmer is fricking aids too what do you mean "except messmer"
Black person does insane combos that you can't reasonably dodge, has one of the worst grabs in fromsoft history, and you can't see shit with all the particle effects everywhere
multiple people have beat messmer without taking damage already lol
sucks to suck.
The largest chunk of people having problems with this game are Chinese, to the surprise of no one
How do the same people who designed Isshin design shit like this?
uh by just make isshin again but forget we're playing john tarnished and not john sekiro
>create a game around a parry mechanic from the ground up so they can tune bosses around it
>add the same system into ER without the parry mechanic, but forgot
THESE stupid fricks at FROMSOFT add shit like this but wont give the Sekiro parry to players??????????????????????????????????????
>dude shield counter and.. stuff
not the same.
Why does he keep rolling away instead of into the attacks? Don't the Chinese know about iframes?
It literally doesn't matter what you're doing in care of Radahn cause he has repeated attacks so fast you can't dodge regardless of where you're trying to go. Or if you do go far away, he just throws a meteor at you, pulls you in with gravity or nukes the entire fricking arena. He's literally designed to not just use mimics but summons as well.
>rollrollrollrollrollrollroll
I'd be mad too if I was this bad.
so, ign writes for the chinese audience?
suppose all media does
game is hard as balls
So I need to upgrade my gpu
Would you say the recommended 1070 on the steampage can run it 60fps?
At 1080p, maaaaybe.
Anything higher, no way José.
For ultrawide 2560x1080 which is my current monitor
it will be enough for 1080p @60fps
>DLC is 63%
>Basegame is 91% recent, 93% overall
Genuinely, what the frick happened?
>morons getting filtered
nice
>nice
>from never makes another game
>non morons such as yourself have nothing to play
nice
>from never makes another game
Nice
not really, it's because it runs like shit
people just found out it still stutters, they haven't fixed shit since release
yeah my fps says 60 but its stuttering like mad
how do I not get hit by the fricking boar rider charge, sometimes it even hits twice
We're going to need a few boxcar loads of keopectate to handle this many shitters.
Reminder that Eldwn Ring is the most accesible game FROMSOFT has made and Ganker can't stop malding due to lack of skill.
>most accesible game FROMSOFT has made
well you're right. Mostly because of spirit ashes
And they designed the dlc bosses around people utilizing the stuff they put in the game. At this point anyone complaining about difficulty and not using tools is like trying to be mad about biking without a chain. You did it to your frickin self for thinking it builds character to ride without a chain
Most successful as well, which is why Ganker is seething.
>unironically citing game journalists
The absolute state of zoomers
>random bugman noises
cope
I played every FromSoft game since Demon's Souls, Sekiro is my favorite by far. This DLC is the hardest thing they've made and it's not even close. Radahn is like fighting Ishin but you can't parry.
The game is only hard because you impose self-restrictions. Use bleed builds.
Why stop there? Use a greatshield and rape everything first try. That's all the pos bosses in this game deserve
I use Rellana's swords right now, will try other builds, though I'm not sure if he's even vulnerable to bleed at all.
You wouldn't be beating this boss first try even with a great shield. I beat Rellana first try with the basic Nagakiba I used, Mesmer took 3 tries and didn't struggle much throughout the entire game, but the end boss just feels overtuned.
Am fairly sure Radahn, Rallana and Bayle are vulnerable to bleed. Just re-roll stats and use whatever bleed weapon you prefer. You should see the results.
Thanks anon, I'll try with Rakshasa's katana then.
>Ganker can't stop malding
it's like a handful of people tops
Yeah, that was true in 2022, now in 2024 Ganker is casual.
Also the best
Open world works better than linear bs
I hope all fromsoft game follow open world route because it give player so much freedom
no it isn't. Dark Souls 1 is many times easier.
and more fun and cooler world and atmosphere
it's fricking over, the final boss is too hard. I'm going to the goon cave with thiollier and never leaving
>refund DLC
>save is now broken
lmao
why wouldn't it break your save your absolute tard
I'll believe journalists over thirdworld shitters who cant even beat the first boss lmao
Stop fricking attacking for 2 seconds
this is stupid
you're supposed to wait it out for 5 minutes until the boss decides to do the one attack that gives you 5 frames to counter in
Git gud
Stop complaining
Are you noob gamer?
I'm tired of rollslop hence the shield.
Scadu level?
3
>3
>Taking that little damage
Something's not adding up here
buffs, use item/spell defense buff, they exist in the game and people barely use them
>estus
you didnt beat the game
Final boss of this DLC is such a piece of shit dude. It perfectly encapsulates all the problems with bosses in this dogshit game.
I just beat it, I think it's a really cool boss especially the grab mechanic instakilling you if it happens twice but the phase 2 attacks are a ton of visual noise with no clear indication on how to dodge them except repeatedly getting to phase 2 and experimenting with shit that might halfway work. I also think the grab, despite being cool, comes out too fast. He starts the animation and then a second later is on you, so if you were in the middle of doing literally anything you are not going to be able to roll out of it. The nuke from orbit thing I have no idea how to dodge properly but I'm sure you can and I just saved my lmao no damage mixed physick for it.
Yeah phase 2 feels really poorly designed man, I'm disappointed after getting him low a few times, not sure I really want to finish it out.
Just use the mimic tear or something. I did the entire DLC solo except for the 4-npc fight near the end where I used the story summon and the final boss where I used the mimic tear because I got tired of the instakill nuke, insane followups I couldn't even see due to light pillars, and general high damage even with really juiced scadutree level. I burst it down so fast in phase 2 it couldn't even do the nuke, and I'm content with that.
the bosses have too much health and spam attacks for 5 days. Bloodborne DLC was FAR better. A shame cause the world exploration is neat and has a bunch of layers.
to deal with the massive health pools and damage you have to use stuff like rivers of blood or blasphemous blade + mimic.
the game is literally far harder if you dont use the cheap stuff.
I used a spirit for the boar boss, frick it
Ganker is pathetic sort
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lol glad this vid btfo these gays in this general. No shield and even using guard counters. I want all of you shitters to stop crying.
Rellana is literally the easiest fricking boss in the dlc
I think she's neck and neck with the lion. All you need to do, is see the end of the combo. That's all you have to fricking do.
One more rupee has been sent to your account, sir.
Sorry bro, I am not dedicating hours of my life to learn one boss fight like this asiatic autist does.
Okay then "git gud" is out of your reach, go use a mimic tear.
Turdworlders can't beat these bosses, so I'm pretty sure your projecting here.
I did. I've got nothing to prove in a game with such a shallow combat system.
>Exploring = Atmosphere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boss fights
I do agree with you there honestly.
Now make him do these epic no hit runs without trainers
Holy shit look at this crybaby frick.
>NOOO PLEASE, h-HE HAS TO BE CHEATING I CAN'T JUST BE SHIT!!!
lol seethe
He literally uses them to learn the boss patterns moron. He does. All the youtubers doing these kind of runs use them
Prove it. All I see is, he waits for combos to end and punishes. Oh big brain right there, has to be psycic. You can't even do pattern recognition, a basic animal function.
>prove that he used cheats to learn the bosses x10 faster than a moron going in and dying x200 to learn it
Are you moronic? Why wouldn't he do this? He has videos of playing with mods so I don't think he has issues with the sacred integrity of the original game files
>no proof
Thank you, I accept your concession. I know you're angry right now, so your next post will be cope.
OH NO LOOKS IT'S ANOTHER CHE-
NO you're just trash anon. 🙂
see
%3D
NO proof? I got more lol. Dude you just suck.
Damn, so clean, I wish I was this good at the game, shame that I was only able to kill till Fire Giant with no hit, I can't deal with all the bullshit in Clergyman beast and Godfrey .
why dont you post some of your gameplay instead
>trainers
Cope. This dude's whole thing is crushing hard games. He's leagues apart from the shitters here.
That's the korean dude that only posts videos of him styling on shit isn't it? Dude's sekiro videos were great.
Yep. Playing those insane mods. veganas crying in this thread should be ashamed.
I went to take a look and the vast majority of the negative reviews are about the poor performance. Why must people twist the truth like that? And on the topic of the eurogamer 3/5 review, the negative aspect that got the points docked wasn't even primarily about the difficulty. It was the tutorial handholding and "emptiness" of the world.
>"hehe, git gud you shitters"
>enters boss room
>summons mimic
>starts spamming Blasphemous Blade AoW
>beats the boss without ever getting into melee range as the mimic holds aggro for 80% of the fight
game is as hard as you make it
See
they should stealth add godskin incantations
Reminder
It's quite literally Chinks review bombing the game.
https://www.togeproductions.com/SteamScout/steamAPI.php?appID=2778580
>chinks that use traditional chinese are better players
What this even mean?
Remembering all those obscure characters in their traditional language that are defined by context and the amount of dots attached to a stroke made them more capable at pattern recognition.
>Simplified Chinese: Positive review ration of 0.46
>Traditional Chinese: Positive review ration of 1.50
*ratio
shit
I'm curious how bad it needs to get before Fromdrones stop defending this new meta design
Malenia cancelling her attack 8 times in a row if you're standing at a "wrong" distance was one of the most moronic things I've ever seen in a game
I'm actually expecting bosses to straight up teleport before their attacks in the next game to make sure you can't abuse good movement and force you into a specific pattern set by the devs, or maybe taking input reading to the next level by just straight up only countering what you do ands ever launching any attacks of their own
>straight up teleport
oh, several bosses do that in this DLC, the last boss will instakill you if you summon an ash and you get unlucky.
can everyone agree healthpools are bloated? without bleed or frost procs it takes forever to kill a boss.
Just described base game end game so it's inline
only on a few bosses would I consider the HP too high, do your scadu reps
>scadu
What a fricking garbage mechanic man. They just gave up on balancing the DLC around base game characters and introduced some isolated shitty linear upgrade path.
I should get stronger by killing shit, not running around and finding a blue item in a random village. This is why rune level should be the ONLY factor.
Yeah like in dark souls where you upgrade weapons by finding stuff on the gr-- oh wait.
Yall are just asking to be called moronic at this point. Just say you don't like it and you couldn't overcome it. Takes a lot less energy.
>scadu bad
If it weren't there everybody would just be steamrolling shit and the topic would be "SEETHE FROMPONIES YOUR GOD MEMEHACKZAKI HAS CAVED TO THE CASULS TOTALLY WORTH 40 DOLLARS, PLUS TIP AMIRITE"
Kindly frick off
soul level is all that should matter, not some meme currency that makes you stronger just for finding random shit in a village.
Who gives a shit? This isn't some online ranked game, nor does the game have some leaderboard homosexualry. I could understand if this skadu garbage actually allowed for more in-depth character building, but it's literally just more damage and more defence, the most bland shit possible.
I would only accept the skadu shit if it actually worked outside the DLC area. The fact that it only works inside the DLC is asanine and turns it into a clearly cheap way to stretch content.
That would require them to rebalance the entire game, so I would prefer if this shit didn't exist at all.
I give a shit because it just makes the experience worse over all. moronic mechanic literally nullifies all your power gain up to that point in the game.
>who gives a shit
Everyone shitting their pants about it, like say, (You)
you WILL collect the scadu
you WILL take lots of wallpaper screenshots of the environment
you WILL post them on social media
What exactly is forever? 5 minutes? 10 minutes? 15+ minutes?
they want you to collect skibidi fragments. they do frick all for your defense but the attack power they add is noticeable.
In Sekiro, it works cause the upgrade items are after you progress through bosses in a linear order. In this game, you are FRICKED if you dont scour the entire world and find a tree fragment in a completely random spot.
main bosses should drop like 5 fragments or something.
You do know that Elden Ring is an open world game right? You just described open world gameplay. Don't like it then frick off. You don't belong. Okay?
>defending ubislop tier open world game design in a fromsoft game
now I've seen it all
explore for more skibidi blessings
HALIGTREEs LANGUAGE
I'd be refunding if I played a game, only to find out you can be forced to be a fricking homo. The shitposting fuel of HEART STOLEN will be the main legacy of this game.
not one of the major bosses to progress the game is "fun". I didn't have fun fighting any of these. Not the rot chick, not messmer and his ADHD spam, not the lion, and definitely not the last boss which quite possibly might be fromsoft's worst.
>40 health
>40 str
>still take several hits with a Zwei to kill those two mimics guarding the whip b***h while dying in 3 hits or 1 guard break
This game just isn't very fun for old soulsgays like me.
Elden ring end stats have been 60 since the first week the game launched. Maybe start considering hospice instead of making up problems for yourself.
GUYZ I CAN'T JUST COMET AZUZE EVERY BOSS
THIS IS LITERALLY GAMER GENOCIDE
WAAAAHWAAAAHWAAAAAHHH BABY IS UPSET
I AM SUPPOSED TO BE A REAL GAMER THIS ISN'T FAIR!!!!!!
Don't forget the classic: WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT JUMP L1 JUMP L1 JUMP L1 INTO STAGGERED ATTACK ON EVERY ENEMY. GRAFTED GREATSWORD AND UGS WITH MIMIC HAVE BEEN BY MY SIDE THIS WHOLE TIME NOW I GET OVERHEAD SLAMMED BY BOSSES WHAT THE FFFFRICKKKK MAN.
Any new best noodle content?
>slopdrones wakes up from coma after nearly a decade
never thought id see the day
>Bloodborne
>ludwig
>orphan
>aggressive, but fair
meanwhile
>Shadow of the Erdtree
>aggressive, unfair
>not fun
so what changed?
compare the attack strings from Orphan to Radahn, you'll have your answer
Chinese players were allowed to play instead of having it all blocked by the CCP.
Orphan is not THTA different from bosses in ER, the difference is that my hunter could keep up with the bosses, but the "hollow-lite" tarnished is a fricking slug outside of weapon arts.
Anon, Ludwig is very forgiving. Not only do you move significantly faster and have more healing he constantly misses you and most of his combos let you smack his ass and body. Orphan is hard but he's literally the final boss of the dlc and really doesn't bring anything new to the table beyond pure aggression. A better comparison would be Laurence who is pretty much universally disliked
but the fights were far more enjoyable, even if challenging. NONE of these fights are "fun" or memorable, no one will go "Oh wow, the lion was better than Artorias!"
The dancing lion is better than the manticore. You didn't even remember that the manticore was the first boss of the Artorias DLC.
This. I had a harder time with NK than with Malenia, and yet I enjoyed beating him way more.
I think you may have responded to the wrong post. Personally I think lions biggest problem is that he really doesn't do anything unique. I really wish they tried to do more with his design of two guys in a suit and didn't just slap generic lighting ice and beast attacks on him.
Bloodborne is entirely built around trading blows and playing aggressive back. Elden Ring is just rollx10 until you can get one hit in safely then rollx10 repeat. For every single boss. Again and again and again and again the only thing that ever changes is enemy damage/hp go up and combos get longer that's it.
Skill. Issue.
For.The.Devs.
good bosses let you identify attacks and give you time to punish, in the DLC you have to roll 30 times and even then there are random delays so it's just not fun.
You can literally just roll into Rellana and poke her inbetween her swings because all her horizontal slashes go over your head.
The people that roll 30 times are doing back rolls in a straight line and getting mad about getting caught even though players themselves have been catching backwards rolls since DS1.
Just stfu already man, you're just trash.
i'm tekken emperor in 8. an actually hard game because you're fighting humans.
i'm sure anyone could do this after hours of practice. i'm just smart enough not to do it. buy another dlc for me, ok champ?
>crying this hard
>at a game easier than tekken
Git gud.
git gud applies to games worth getting good at. i have rejected SotE from the outset. i have no issues saying it was too hard for a PvE game to be fun. i play fighting games for challenges.
Okay cool so you're not gud, and you won't git gud at a boss that takes max 3 tries before learning the combo endings. You're braindead.
i'm tekken emperor dude i don't care
last reply to you. enjoy it.
Cry elsewhere.
Why do think he's complaining about rellana? She's literally the easiest boss in the dlc.
Where are the radahn no hit runs?
Boring doesn´t equal """hard""".
>fighting game gay
>crying at hard mode Zelda
HOLY KEK!
you can call me whatever. i play fighting games (very well) so i'm automatically superior to 99% of people this thread.
Yet you can't beat this DLC. Either moron or liar.
>better than everyome here
Are you getting paid for your fighting game playing? No? Then you're just another nerd, sit the frick down.
Fricking beautiful. Even beat Ongbal in time. Fantastic. And golden parry? I gotta try that on one of my other characters
That’s what they get for catering to speedrunners
Renalla is really difficult second phase. I'm getting destroyed. She can 1 shot you at 120sl if you're barely missing any HP. I'm not even sure if she can be bleed in the second phase. Uchigatana is good though.
She should, so you probably proc'd it too many times, which might be an issue with your overall damage. Did you fetch some skadidis?
>boss attacks are timed to hit you just before you recover from healing
gay, just fricking let me heal c**ts
the only reason for critics to exist is to predict the opinions of wider audiences. any time a critics score does not match the audience score, that critic has failed. eurogamer giving the elden ring dlc a mid rating shows theyre the only ones who did their job right
I didn't even buy the DLC. You can enjoy the ever-increasing powercreep, bros. Design and atmosphere don't matter now. The modern world is so shit that people who yearn for battle and conflict in their lives are escaping to rollslop to feel like champions, even if all they're doing is bashing their head against the wall with an electronic game. "I beat it. I have accomplished something worthwhile with my time. I am a warrior." Baudrillard was right. This is how the world ends.
Stay tuned for Elden Ring 2, which comes with a peripheral shock-inducing device to really make you feel like you're taking real damage.
I'd buy it tbh.
Does the peripheral go on my penis uwu?
People who act like they're on the outer rim watching the rats eat the shit are so cute. It's a video game you dumb mother fricker LOL. You either beat it and like it or don't and wait for something new. The same as it's always been.
if the devs want you to roll 50 times before getting a hit in, the health pools should be MUCH lower. Even getting a bleed takes several hits or weapon art spam.
>hit boss for 800
>health bar barely moves
this is not normal. not every boss has to be Midir.
Meanwhile in reality I just make the Ashina proud and Ichimonji strike the frick out of every boss and win lmao
ISSHIN STRONG
You didn't even buy the fricking DLC did you?
yeah, I even wasted a larval tear to respec into rivers of blood + arcane cause the mimic spams the weapon art.
this piece of shit dlc is gonna make me go insane...
i fricking refuse to farm the shitty scadushekkels, i WONT
believe it or not, Dark Souls 2 DLC beats this for bosses.
Gathering the boys and descending into was certainly better than homosexualry.
All this means is that I'll be able to get it on sale sooner
I strongly believe the devs read too much into the "Malenia is too hard" meme so they decided to make a bunch of bosses that are harder, but not better.
more like the saw the popularity, success and community engagement and content creation around malenia being le super epic hard boss and just did that ten more times for the dlc
Who gives a shit what the Chinese think
I wish I could get a refund, uninstalled after suffering through the dancing lion and the absolute dogshit garbage trash camera that has you constantly not sure what the frick you're seeing. Boss never sits fricking still for even a second so lock on is basically required but lock on is fricking useless thanks to the shit ass camera. Trash game.
Don't care, didn't buy this and I won't be buying any game similar in the future.
I play video games to have fun, not to push me to chucking my keyboard across the room.
literally just play a strengthchad build and all the bosses will crumple like b***hes
do people honestly think bosses spamming 30 attacks in a row or hitting for 3/4 of your bar is "good design"
just dodge bro
skill issue, right?
pick up more scadus
sure, lemme scour the giant world hoping to find +1 fragment in a village, love how beating bosses doesnt make me stronger
>let me just explore the world to get stronger instead of bumrushing the bosses
yes, they're not even hidden most are next to a grace or big statue or big ass Miquella cross. Either get stronger or stop b***hing
im b***hing cause it's shit design, it worked in Sekiro ONLY because you got upgrade mats regularly and the game was linear progression. it doesn't work in a game like this where they can be literally anywhere and in obscure spots. or off a miniboss in some random swamp, but you have no idea they have one till you kill it.
>i'm b***hing
we know
for a reason, they tried to copy sekiro but put the upgrade items all over the fricking place, while in sekiro you couldnt miss them.
You're too fricking stupid to do some exploring. Dark Souls 1 had secret passages and optional bosses, this is fricking bad now you absolute moron? What do you not look for hidden smithing stones or something? Your next post will be super fricking stupid.
Git. Gud.
You had to go fight headless ghost demons that ate your soul out of your butthole in random places in Sekiro's world a bunch of times to get the upgrade beads
You clearly never played Sekiro
it's more linear so the items were easier to find and in obvious places. this DLC is nothing like that.
>go kill this random miniboss on an island
>it has a fragment, how would you know? no idea!
Not only are you goalpost moving, but you're also lying now. The majority of fragments are literally next to glowing crosses that an NPC gives you a map for or headless statues of Marika.
No you didn't. The Headless drop spiritfall temporary buff items, not upgrade beads.
Headless and Shikimen don't give beads. They give permanent reusables of the sugar buffs.
>You clearly never played Sekiro
>Spouts a completely untrue statement about the game
good job anon
I'm at level 10, they're not hidden at all, I just casually explored. I didn't use a map or guide. I just explored the map. They're next to obvious land marks. You're ass and blaming the game
They aren't literally anywhere or in obscure spots or inside minibosses. They're at giant golden glowing signposts.
some are. there's what, 7 crosses? that will get you to like, level 2 or 3?
I just fought Rellana and the dancing lion at level SEVEN skibidi. You can explore and get to level SEVEN before fighting any remembrance bosses.
is it good design to level up from collectathons rather than killing enemies or bosses?
I don't remember many bosses in base elden ring dropping upgrade stones
DLC bosses should drop multiple fragments. it should not be linked to exploration. Weapon mats? Fine. Player power/base stats? No. The runes you get off killing a boss might as well do nothing, even 100 vigor will do frick all without the tree fragments.
Trying beating regular elden ring without upgrade stones dip shit see how far you get
im 100% fine doing runs for smithing stones, but far too much power revolves around finding the tree fragments, in the base game I could still beat bosses without a +25 or +10 weapon.
this time you get fricked twice because the tree stuff ALSO is damage negation.
>please i need this game to be easier!
No. Go cry now.
Yes, all these people are doing the equivalent of facemashing against Tree Sentinel at level 1 and crying it has too much hp and kills them in 1 hit. Go look around you stupid frick.
Yeah
Pick u more skapoopiesdoodlebops.
It's good that it's hard, otherwise people would just steamroll with their maxed builds and finish it in a day. Casuls are mad that they can't cheese everything.
the scadu system is shit
>what's that anon, you didn't collect enough shiny pebbles on the overworld?
>enjoy doing no damage to bosses and getting 2-shot
Sekiro handled this better, they should've used the same system here.
the main story bosses should give you a big powerup. searching the world should be for WEAPON MATS not shit essential to powering up. there is literally no indication where to find these, you can "explore" but it could be 20 hours before you find one after the obvious spots are exhausted.
>Copy Sekiro's linear level up system
>But place the items randomly in an open-world instead of them being boss rewards
>Didn't copy the camera panning for large bosses like Sekiro does
What the frick is wrong with From?
So you don't collect golden seeds?
It's literally the same shit. You schizos are moronic.
Meanwhile before DLC
>What's that anon? You didn't collect enough stones or smithing bells? You do no damage! Didn't farm or abuse rune acquisition? SAME BOAT
Crazy you morons thought they were gonna make a 40 dollar dlc for you to shit on in an evening.
>Can be stones
>Find the most stones in logical places like mines
>Meanwhile skadushit are just sitting on the ground with no rhyme or reason
You are exceptionally stupid.
>Sekiro handled this better
>go find a bunch of beads for a buddhist charm
>different from go find a bunch of seeds from a tree
???
literally the only reason people play these games is because they're hard so this argument is so stupid
People on fricking facebook are complaining less than you homosexuals. This is how far you've fallen Ganker: literal normies are outpacing you.
Ganker is full of chinese and indian posters now so why are you surprised? those are also the places review bombing it for being too hard on steam
>Tencent bought Fromsoft stocks
>Indians helped make Elden Ring
Hmm, not adding up. Me thinks it's the chinks and jeets, such as yourself, that are defending this slop.
Indians defending shit in internet in 2024?
Nah...
When they help make it, yes.
Remember this while not even the africans will even defend them for the "you know what".
I don't know, what is it?
Funny
>roll slop with no combos
>bosses that combo and punish roll slop
you must realize how masochistic you are for entertaining a guy who doesn't write stories or test his own games
>Wombo combo shit
>1-2 shot nonsense
>Forced grinding
So... just more Elden Ring?
Base ER was more fair
How many turd worlders are in this thread right now?
>waaaah why do BOSSES do a lot of damage?!
>waaaaaaah why do I have to EXPLORE AND PLAY THE GAME to become stronger?!
>WAAAAAAAAH WHY DO I HAVE TO USE PATTERN RECOGNITION WHY CAN'T I JUST BUTTON MASH IN A SOULS GAME WAAAAAH
Generate me a short story of a man cutting his lawn.
im thankful fromsoft decided to make their games difficult again, this dlc was essentially rent lowering gunshots for the fanbase to filter all the cancer secondaries that flooded in with elden ring. gatekeeping is ALWAYS good.
I genuinely have never understood the appeal of these games. Why do you gays get so crazy over these games when they look boring as frick ?
oh no people are not happy with ELDEN ROLL?
you do realize that the souls franchise is as copy paste as COD games now.
>slash slash
>roll to dodge
>roll to dodge
>slash slash.
WOW EPIC FUN. WONDER WHAT THE NEXT ONE WILL BE LIKE.
the lock on camera is why I gave it a negative review
>get grabbed by hippo
>lose lock on
>turn my camera so that hippo is in view
>press lock on button
>camera spins 180 degrees in opposite direction
>desperately try to lock on again
>camera spins away from hippo
>get one shot
so freaking epic!
The camera snaps to the direction you're running when you press the button.
Do you really lack self-awareness to the extent where you can't figure this out on your own?
where did it go so wrong?
streamers
>It's hard
It's looks like an ad.
the only peoples opinions and criticisms are valid of any game are the people who are good at it. if someone is better at you than a game, their criticisms invalidate your own, they just know the game better. 'too high difficulty' by default is never a valid complaint, its just a signal to other people who aren't very good and have no intention of becoming good that the game is not for them. which it isn't.
Fastest refund I've ever done besides Sekiro