not enough rpg mechanics
all the non-boss gameplay is underpolished, boring and sometimes lazy even.
5 billion stamina and fast rolls with huge iframes makes the gameplay a little too linear
>not enough rpg mechanics
bb has even less rpg mechanics though? >all the non-boss gameplay is underpolished, boring and sometimes lazy even.
compared to the endless enemy spam off bb to make it le hard it's a masterpiece >makes the gameplay a little too linear
if by linear you mean better then I agree. waiting for your stamina to recharge is not playing the game
>works against most bosses and almost every trash mob in the game
when has this ever not been true? Only elden ring consistently gave enemies roll punish moves and in bb if you just circle the boss with your dashes you will end up behind them and almost never get hit
You will still end up eating a lot of damage by playing this way in ds3 because enemies have large aoe moves which punish you for rolling in the wrong direction
11 months ago
Anonymous
dark souls 1??? hello??? >lots of agile enemies that are difficult to roll away from with your more limited stamina, for example the demon dudes outside anor londo >level design in many places is tight enough that rolling repeatedly without dying or getting caught on a corner is difficult >even a couple gimmick enemies like the one that curses you with fat rolls
11 months ago
Anonymous
ok but it doesn't matter since you can just circle everything or trade attacks by blocking. ds1 combat is by far the most exploitable in the series
11 months ago
Anonymous
>lots of agile enemies
lolno > your more limited stamina
nobody cares when you can circle-strafe assrape and facetank with poise >level design in many places is tight enough that
you literally cannot get past the enemy because the corridor is so small, and frick you if you have a weapon with the wrong arc
11 months ago
Anonymous
ok but it doesn't matter since you can just circle everything or trade attacks by blocking. ds1 combat is by far the most exploitable in the series
now you are talking about 3 different strategies.
try circling the snake dude at this part.
try blocking havel.
>erm my weaponfu and dominant strategy that i want to beat the entire game with wont work at this one part because le hallway too small >now I have to engage the other systems of the game and show mastery with different tools instead of brute forcing the entire game with a bkh
THATS WHAT MAKES THE GAME GOOD!!! THATS WHAT MAKES IT BETTER THAN DS3!!!!
11 months ago
Anonymous
having to do different things doesn't inherently make the combat more interesting when it's literally just >enemy is in a big room -> circle them until death >enemy is on a ledge/hallway -> block 1 attack then counter
You will only very rarely get punished for doing this and there's no actual mastery to it. Anyone who's figured out how to circle the enemies in undead burg has solved half the game.
DS3 enemies on the other hand have varied combos and attack patterns that punish you for doing the same thing over and over again with no regard to what enemy you're fighting.
11 months ago
Anonymous
how do you not see the double standard you are painting. >dark souls 1 is easy if you already beat it before, know what every enemy does and the technique that is most effective against them
this is all equally true of dark souls 3.
the difference is in dark souls 1, it's a bit of trial and error your first time through, and that's where the fun comes from.
in dark souls 3, you kill enemies you just encountered for the first time with a little rollspam. you don't have to figure out what they do. you don't have to adapt to level design. you just roll around and hit them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>the difference is in dark souls 1, it's a bit of trial and error your first time through, and that's where the fun comes from.
It really isn't. Dark Souls 3 punishes roll spam more than Dark Souls 1, and DS1 enemies are even easier to roll around (or even just circlestrafe to death)
11 months ago
Anonymous
I've played them both recently and it's honestly crazy to act like the enemies in DS1 stand up compared to DS3. I prefer DS1 because it was a much more unique experience for me and the world just clicked better with me but DS3 has better, more challenging enemies. Of course it does since it's the forth game in the series. Each one got harder than the ones before it to keep it interesting for veterans.
I honestly can't imagine someone playing DS1 after DS3 and having any trouble with it at all.
11 months ago
Anonymous
the enemies are more modern and challenging. but they are more linear. roll spam solves every encounter.
nta but you think people don't get filtered by dark souls 3 on their first playthrough you're high.
the point is that if you played through dark souls 1 and bloodborne you're carrying over legacy skill that makes those situations more readable compared to your first time trying to get past the silver knight archers- which are themselves countered by moving fast and timing a roll.
You can't know what the experience of playing Dark Souls 3 blind is unless it's your first game in the entire series- I mean there are people that get hard filtered by Iudex Gundyr
it was my first game in the series. then i went and played ds1 and had fun. homosexual.
>DS2troony keeps samegayging with the same roll meme
lol, don't use the literal same shitter incorrect argument when you samegay, gaping axe wound freak
you couldn't even beat the first Lothric knight because they actively roll catch, yet your mentally ill trannoid mind still seethes about your roll meme cope
kek
never played that game. homosexual.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>but they are more linear. roll spam solves every encounter
it's interesting how this sentence doesn't make any sense. the enemies in DS1 can be solved by circle strafing. "roll spamming" as you call it requires you to learn the enemy moveset to dodge with the correct timing
11 months ago
Anonymous
and by roll spam you of course mean learning their moveset and responding to their moves accordingly? As opposed to just hit trading with a shield or circlestrafing? Yeah I guess it's non-linear when you have to solve the monumental puzzle of figuring out whether the enemy will be completely trivialized by circle strafing or by shield poking
>rollspam and more aggressive enemy AI has enough depth to carry the entire game on its back. it doesnt matter that you never need to use planning and strategy to solve an encounter because rollspam is fun
I disagree. Once we get to the 15th enemy that is standing in the middle of a big open area where all I have do to win is dodge and light attack, I'm bored. I don't understand why you need 5 replies to comprehend this basic statement. you don't need to agree with me you just need to accept my argument as coming down to differences in our tastes and shut the frick up.
>dark souls 1 sucks because I already did the planning and strategy 10 years ago. I also am conveniently forgetting about iconic encounters that definitely cannot be solved by running around in a circle like a moron.
frick you
>i can't take this argument about variance in core gameplay between 2 examples where the differences are clearer and apply it to bloodborne, the actual game we are talking about. I can only nitpick dark souls 1 for being old. because my iq is too low to think that hard
closing the thread
11 months ago
Anonymous
and by roll spam you of course mean learning their moveset and responding to their moves accordingly? As opposed to just hit trading with a shield or circlestrafing? Yeah I guess it's non-linear when you have to solve the monumental puzzle of figuring out whether the enemy will be completely trivialized by circle strafing or by shield poking
11 months ago
Anonymous
>and by roll spam you of course mean learning their moveset and responding to their moves accordingly?
No, you just spam roll because stamina regeneration is so fast that it doesn't matter
11 months ago
Anonymous
except it does matter because most of the major enemies and all of the bosses have roll punish attacks and you will get murdered repeatedly if you try to roll spam
11 months ago
Anonymous
No you wont. Just roll past any enemy in the game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
why talk about a game you haven't played? Is it not embarrassing to you that everyone can tell you're lying?
11 months ago
Anonymous
see
yeah why dont people like it i dont understand
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're confusing it with Elden Ring, now that's a better game
11 months ago
Anonymous
elden ring does it more frequently and better but ds3 does the same thing on lots of enemies and bosses
11 months ago
Anonymous
I've watched people like this fight the second phase of Nameless King (which is the easy part btw) and it's so funny to watch them spam roll and get hit by literally every combo and never learn. There are also a bunch of bosses that have combos that are too fast to spam roll against in addition to the one that's too slow. The only reason DS3 has more of a "roll spam" reputation is that the games before it have bosses so simple they don't even demand that much. Especially DS2, all those bosses have a total of 6 attacks with one 2-hit combo if you're lucky and 10 seconds of downtime between attacks. "Rollspam" is a fair criticism of Souls in general but I don't want to hear it from anyone shilling a souls game. Sekirobros are allowed it
11 months ago
Anonymous
nta but you think people don't get filtered by dark souls 3 on their first playthrough you're high.
the point is that if you played through dark souls 1 and bloodborne you're carrying over legacy skill that makes those situations more readable compared to your first time trying to get past the silver knight archers- which are themselves countered by moving fast and timing a roll.
You can't know what the experience of playing Dark Souls 3 blind is unless it's your first game in the entire series- I mean there are people that get hard filtered by Iudex Gundyr
11 months ago
Anonymous
>DS2troony keeps samegayging with the same roll meme
lol, don't use the literal same shitter incorrect argument when you samegay, gaping axe wound freak
you couldn't even beat the first Lothric knight because they actively roll catch, yet your mentally ill trannoid mind still seethes about your roll meme cope
kek
my biggest beef with it is it’s just so ugly and boring to look at, everything is just so grey and shitty. Bloodbourne is the same but it felt like its locations had something interesting about them
I just replayed it and it's better than what I remembered, but it's still the weakest in the series by far.
Bloodborne's influence on the game was the biggest problem with the game.
Yeah, DS3 was improved tenfold by Elden Ring, both in gameplay and art direction.
Bloodborne still has the best dodge animation and trick weapons are faster/more interesting than weapon arts
>roll attack >expects the sword to extend and hit the enemy from any position
the lock on is working, you can see it attacks torwards their direction but the attack itself is short range so it won't land. Different weapons have different roll attacks that make it more useful.
the lock-on isn't broken. it's working as intended. you're swinging a 1-handed sword over 2 meters away from your target and expecting it to hit things. you're a drooling idiot. simple as.
>unrionically thinking a 30 year old cereal box game is better than bloodborne
BB is one of the 5 best games ever made and no ammount of seethe whill change this
I got the platinum for it after beating it four times, along with all the chalice bosses and sold it to get some money back. It was fun for a while but got old pretty fast and the environments are not very diverse so that in turn makes the game feel pretty small compared to even the original dark souls. Still upset that they came out with a dlc like a year or two after release on an extremely short single player game. I did all that within 2 weeks of release as well.
RC and RC2 are such masterpieces in terms of game design and coding that the name of the developer alone became synonymous with groundbreaking in the PC scene, with it's functional engine that aged like wine still being modded and maintained by its own community who still remains bigger than the following of any of the games in the genre that came before or after even from it's
own series
Bloodslop is a casualized repacking of a series that hit it's peak with the second game, the addimited only truly passionated project of it's creator, and is only maintained alive by a pack of trannies making meme funny fan games out of it
But again, comparing these two games is like comparing the discovery of penicillin with a Tyler Perry movie
Why do people make threads about some random Redditors opinion?
Like if it's OPs own opinion, why not post it as such and maybe give reasons? Because who cares about some random person's opinion?
I don't understand
>Ganker hates ds3 lol
10 trannies spamming their garbage opinions relentlessly throughout the day is not equivalent to the tens of thousands of anons lurking you moron.
Technically it is against the rules, since it's the first reason you can give for a report, but once you've discussed the rule violation in the thread it's too late to report it, because announcing reports is also against the rules.
Cross-posting from reddit and twitter should be ban-worthy as well but I don't see Ganker reaching that point.
I wish blatant flamewars were against rules. But mods defend them especially if it's political.
It's strange
Ganker is 90% flame wars and mods want it to stay this way because outrage keeps people coming back, boosts site traffic and ad views, makes it more likely for morons to buy pass
>Like if it's OPs own opinion, why not post it as such and maybe give reasons?
because then nobody replies, reddit garbage creates a lot of angles to attack so the homosexual OP can get more (You)s
This. Gankershitters got filtered hard by DS3 since it balanced PvP with upgrade matching and when they were on an equal footing they got their shit caved in.
>Hallway level design >No world building whatsoever, has to rely entirely on DaS1 for any actual piece of lore so vaati can make a whole 1 hour video on shartus barbus >Looks ugly
I will say this though, the DLC and PVP on DS3 were kino, and i genuinely miss doing invasions on Irithyll
DS2 iron bridge pvp absolutely sharts on DS3, so did the pvp arenas in the pvp covenant. I loved hosting huge fight clubs with my warped sword hex dex homie
>sequel of the game builds off of prior game >REEE MY GAPING AXE WOUND IS BLEEDIN AAH IT HURTS
why is DS3 the only sequel in the history of sequels to draw out this level of psychotic mental illness?
Oh, DS2troony shits on 1&DeS too, depending on the bait thread, and tries to gayop beef between ER and other Souls games with bait threads too, very unsuccessfully.
He's particularly upset about 3 though, because it invalidated his troony coffin game. (ironic, since that's his soon to be destination)
I've been saying this for a long that that even though Dark Souls III is incredibly unfinished and will never be fully realized it still feels much better to play, has better locations and the bosses are heaps better than Bloodborne. Its like comparing a sapphire to a ruby covered in a little shit, like yeah the ruby has some shit on it but its still better.
WHY ARE YOU FRICKING UBER Black person SO DAMN LONELY THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOU DAILY DARK SOULS BAIT THREAD!!!!???
Fricking WHY
Get some friends or meaningful hobbys you absolute subhuman piece of shit. Imagine being such a lowlife that (you)s are the only reason to keep you alive.
DS2troony is kept alive solely by their daily dilation routine on Ganker, ever since he cut his knob off.
you mad?
How much blood did you piss today troony?
Has your wound gone septic yet? You painfully rotting from the inside out is a funny as frick way for you to die, ngl.
>realize players of 1 liked it magnitudes more than 2 >make 3 more of a sequel to 1 and gloss over the elements of 2
Seems like From was just giving people what they wanted
Like all Fromsoft games, the DLC mogs the base game. Can’t wait for the collective hernia once Elden Ring’s drops and the OST is exclusively 20 minute Kitamura pieces
DS3 took a lot of what people liked about Bloodborne and applied it to a Dark Souls title.
Sure it was kinda linear but whatever, the game is still fun and you can mod it to make it fresh.
Bloodborne is a game for literature chads, only we can understand the game in a way no one else can, of course reddit thinks their pseudo action schlop is better when all they know is how to bing bing wahoo and stimulate their ADHD infected brains on their mother's basement
says the shit eating israeli discord trannie who makes daily dark souls bait threads just to farm (you)s because thats the only social interaction i gets
I played them both back to back twice and it's absolutely true. BB's only strengths are things like art direction and cool factor (ie. style over substance) while DS3 mogs it in anything gameplay related.
BBs indefensible boss roster alone should make it a black sheep of the series, it only got slightly better with the dlc
It's also trivial to prove this correct because the people shilling bb or shitting on DS3 will either provide no reasoning at all or will just screech about "muh art direction" because they only look at games instead of playing them
>BB's only strengths are things like art direction and cool factor (ie. style over substance) while DS3 mogs it in anything gameplay related.
This is pretty much the reason I haven't gotten a PlayStation for it yet. If I want a game because it has a cool aesthetic, I'm not spending $100+ on it and suffering through 20fps
are you one of those morons who hasn't played the game? Out of the 17 bosses there are three, maybe four decent ones and maybe one standout good fight. You seriously gonna argue that Rom is a good boss? Paarl? Amygdala? Micolash? Wet nurse? Fricking One Reborn? I would legitimately rather punch myself in the dick repeatedly than fight any of them again
DS2 and BB have basically the exact same average boss quality. BB inarguably has higher highs but just like DS2, all the bosses are so piss easy that it doesn't really matter. DS3 is really the first game where the bosses are anything more than spectacle.
>Posts webm of guy who's died 140 times 30% of the way through the game >Actually sweetie your game is piss easy, not ds2!!
Also I've spent a lot of time fighting dancer early for twink builds and her having a DS2 boss recovery level idle time while you're getting busy back there is exceedingly rare. At most you'd get a couple good spanks
I've played all of them many times and I think ER is the best one since DaS1, your opinion is not fact
>No argument
11 months ago
Anonymous
DS3 bosses are so easy
11 months ago
Anonymous
>expected oceiros be a pain in the ass with dagger >actually pinwheel tier easy
11 months ago
Anonymous
You didn't make an argument >it's worse because it's bad >it's bad because it's worse >le slop word
11 months ago
Anonymous
I did make an argument, actually. The combat doesn't integrate any of the actual improvements from Sekiro and sticks to the same outdated systems from over a decade ago. The level, world design, and bosses are all brought down because the open world necessitates a bunch of lazily stitched together content. If ER were just the legacy dungeons in a linear package it'd be comparable to DS3, but still worse both because it came after Sekiro instead of before and because the spirit summoning system and general abundance of OP builds makes the game hyper-casual. I don't think there's a single company that actually has the resources to make a focused, polished open-world experience and I also can't think of a company worse-equipped for this than From. ER was just hopping on a bandwagon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The combat doesn't integrate any of the actual improvements from Sekiro
Sekiro is a completely different type of game with a completely different foundation for its combat, and even then ER does integrate some things from it like posture breaking >The level, world design, and bosses are all brought down
Opinion, the legacy dungeons and many of the minor dungeons have very well thought out level design and many of the bosses are some of the best and most fun they've ever designed >If ER were just the legacy dungeons in a linear package it'd be comparable to DS3
DS3 has some of the blandest level design of any of them, and has by far the most painfully linear world design aside from maybe Bloodborne which is also a fairly different type of game in its own right >spirit summoning system and general abundance of OP builds makes the game hyper-casual.
Literally every single one of these games has "easy mode" weapons and spells any butthole can use to cheese the games, going all the way back to Demon's Souls. No one is forcing you to use any of them and the games are all perfectly playable and beatable without them, ER included >ER was just hopping on a bandwagon.
A nearly 20 year old bandwagon? By all accounts they went with open world mainly for the increased sense of scale, which works perfectly well. While there's no official word on it, the "copy/pasted" content feels like it is the way it is because they didn't really expect most players to autistically comb every single pixel and square millimeter of the map, so most players would encounter some of the repeat bosses maybe once or twice over the course of a playthrough rather than every single one in the game. Even then it still has more enemy and boss variety than nearly any other game of its type ever made, and there are no literally copy/pasted dungeons, every single one of them has a unique layout. They feel samey because they use the same 6 or 7 tilesets, not because they're literally identical
>enjoy two games to the point of playing them seven times >still feel the need take part in sterile discussion about worthless ranking
Watch Mojo ruined your brain. Why should I give a shit about top tens , goty and this kind of bullshits? Just play what you like, no need to compare everything
Most of the posts impotently seething about 3 are DS2troony, yes.
He makes these bait threads when the HRT kicks in and he feels particularly suicidal.
Outside of a few bosses DS3 has an almost unnatural quality of being forgettable as frick. I finished it like 5 times and I only remember like 2 areas and 4 bosses.
>memorable bosses >memorable levels >memorable music >memorable DLC >memorable NPCs >memorable finale to the series
lolno, you're just a butthurt samegayging pissbaby
I don't have this issue with any of the other games, except for ds2 but that's memorable because it's shit (had very good build variety tho).
DS3 has shitty areas with no color, like they set the fricking saturation to 20% for the whole game. Then most of the bosses are like partially gimmick fights but shitter than DeS. Those aren't an issue with the DLCs since they seemed to pull their thumb out.
Yeah the world being decrepit and desaturated was on purpose to follow the theme of the world living long past its end like a man with insomnia. Hallucinations and all. It's not pretty to look at though.
Why? Because I'm aware of the message and themes of a game? Gunna shame me for that?
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you are a legit poster forgive me, there is literally a Ganker mod who stalks my post since I shitposted on a general she(male) likes. Your post gave off major vibes that you are that homosexual.
I'm 100% not schizo I swear
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm 100% not schizo I swear
Don't worry I'm gangstalking you. The way you sneeze is funny.
>memorable bosses >memorable levels >memorable music >memorable DLC >memorable NPCs >memorable finale to the series
lolno, you're just a butthurt samegayging pissbaby
I believe that Bloodborne is the better game, but If I had to replay either of those games, I would always pick DS3. I would unironically rather replay DS3 10 times back to back before I would ever want to replay Bloodborne even once.
I never played BB, and I would rank DS3 below 1 and 2 personally, but I did really enjoy playing it. The Ringed City and Painted World were great expansions too.
I have no idea what that means, so I'm just gonna assume you're fricking nuts. Or just addicted to discord or whatever you fatherless kids use these days.
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>Now you post your list. It would be insulting (for you) if sub-90 IQ anon has a better taste in games.
But your low IQ ass interprets good things as bad, that's the entire point. Of course a good list would trigger you.
Idk I only played ds3 for an hour and dropped it, not because it was bad (though thats what I said at the time), but because I’d been playing bethesda games for so long all my game skills and expectations had gone to total shit.
You know, maybe I should finally revisit the gam- >$80 not on sale, never on sale
Damn those cheap israelites at fromsoft. At least a person never has to think “I’ll buy it on sale” with fs.
Bloodborne is just the beta for dark souls 3. I don't like how it influenced 3 to be super fast flailing rollshit, but both are still great. DS3 is obviously better in every way unless you really dig the BB setting of... random victorian + 3 seconds of lovecraft.
DaS3 has some of the tightest level design and boss design in the series and those were always the actual reasons I played Souls. IMO Bloodborne's levels outside of Yharnam itself are mediocre and it's filled with mediocre-to-weak bosses that are touted as being good for thematic reasons.
I also earnestly believe your position on whether you prefer DS3 or Bloodborne depends on which game you committed to first and you'll find the second one a slog because they're such similar games.
It's real simple, if you think DS3 is the best, you've: >never read a book you weren't required to >never traveled outside your country >never willingly gone to a museum or theatre >never tried any form of art for recreation
simple as, you're just uncultured. it's not your fault. (it is)
I think it's because at the time it came out it was the sequel to dark souls that everyone wanted. More intense, more aggressive, more mysterious, new setting, etc. I think if you weren't part of that hype train and don't have that emotional investment you just won't understand why people relentlessly fellate the game like me, lol
I think it's because at the time it came out it was the sequel to dark souls that everyone wanted. More intense, more aggressive, more mysterious, new setting, etc. I think if you weren't part of that hype train and don't have that emotional investment you just won't understand why people relentlessly fellate the game like me, lol
Nah I only got around to playing it this year and it's easily the best FS game. DS3 and ER have better bosses, but BB is far more fun to explore
>yeah i never understood what people liked about BB so much
the art direction. that's it. That's the entire reason why it gets so much praise from brainlets who prefer looking at games to playing them
DS3 has better level design and more build variety than BB as well
I can't think of a single thing BB does better, maybe you really the aesthetic i guess
main games only:
good dark souls 3 bosses >gundyr >vordt >abyss watchers >deacons (no apologies i think they're funny) >sulyvahn >aldrich >dancer >dragonslayer armor >the champ >lothric >nameless king >soul of cinder
good bloodborne bosses >micolash (ONLY because he has funny lines, overrated otherwise) >Cleric Beast >gascoigne >Gehrman >Martyr Logarius >Amelia
beast bosses that just lunge at you and become a hitbox are lame and so are puzzle bosses unless their gimmick is genuinely interesting. i think from realized this which is why so many of their games' boss rosters are now dominated by "thing with big sword"
Logarius
any boss that spends half the fight dashing away from you and has bullshit attacks that require lightning reactions is automatically shit tier
giving them credit for gehrman being good is dumb as hell considering he's just a normal hunter miniboss with 5x the hp
i'll go to bat for dark souls 3 but logarius was my favorite fight in bloodborne. I just remember actually having a lot of fun with that fight which i didn't with things like darkbeast paarl and almost every chalice dungeon boss
maybe I was just sick of the game by the time I fought him since he was one of the last bosses I did but I genuinely hated chasing him around the arena and then having to spam heals in the second phase because some of his attacks are impossible to react to
Bloodborne has better weapons which account for a good 30-40% of the experience and nothing less, and has better "secret" areas, and is better at building up places that *feel* more special. To this day I still get that feeling of getting closer to the secrets of the world, and like I'm trespassing somewhere I really shouldn't be when I visit places like the waking Hunters Dream with the sleeping doll, Upper Cathedral, and the cave up to the back of Iosefkas Clinic. Atmosphere is a specialty of BB, but DS3 has a better sense of journey through traveling outwards.
>Bloodborne has better weapons which account for a good 30-40% of the experience and nothing less
better how? the weapons are literally just >faster thin weapon >slower wide arc weapon
anything that isn't that is just gimmick shit that no one uses unironically
I'm a big atmosphere and exploration afficianado and I just didn't get that from BB. I knew a lot of it in advance which usually hurts, but I also knew about Ash Lake in Souls 1 in advance and that was still pretty special.
Everything is equally special, equally viable, equally versatile, and can be upgraded to cater to any build. This makes each one feel more special than the 20 copies of the straight sword, greatsword, and spears that function the exact same for cosmetic sake.
Good joke, usually this is a cope by people who cant play BB. Bloodborne's weapons, animations, theme/aesthetics, music, combat mechanics and lore all blow DS3's away. Bloodborne's combat is souls perfected and it was a huge shame that they played it safe with ER and just copied DS3's lame system
>because no one played BB
honestly my feeling after playing it, feels like a big inside joke that everyone is in on and the goal is to get suckers like me to buy a ps4 and play the shitty game
>ER >just copied DS3's lame system
Only if you ignore the fact that Elden Ring combat shares as many similarities to Sekiro combat as it does to DS3 combat
i don't get the "bloodborne's weapons are incredible" claim either. it's not like their movesets are character action game tier. you have a FEW additional buttons and even with those buttons a lot of enemies are so quick that you default to R1 spam (which is extremely, intentionally effective in this game) anyway. it's cool to be able to do a sweep and a slam with the kirkhammer sure but it definitely didn't change everything for me
each weapon having two forms with like 32 moves per form is infinitely better than having 1000 different weapons that share movesets by type and only have like 9 measly moves per moveset (DS3). Especially since you have to dump shitloads of upgrade materials to even make one useful so you just end up stuck fighting with the same shitty little movesets all game
Every weapon still has double or more of the moveset of your standard weapon in DS3, and have more care built into each one to feel cooler and more special. It cannot be overstated how much this improves the player experience.
Still way better than DS3's puny movesets. When you ask people what their favorite weapon is in BB you will get 20 different responses because they are all so great
>When you ask people what their favorite weapon is in BB you will get 20 different responses because they are all so great
No you won't you'll hear Kirkhammer and Sawblade and that's it.
I am always hearing church pick, kirkhammer, HMLS, stake driver, beast cutter, Amy arm, bloodletter. Nobody says the saws.
https://i.imgur.com/qpDaCvC.jpg
Do you agree, Ganker?
This thread is pure contrarianism circling back to plebianism, they were made at the same time and everyone has known since 2016 that DS3 is the rushed soulless cash-grab sequel one and BB is the soulful one. DS3 altered its own identity to be faster and more aggressive like BB in combat and it was not really an improvement
11 months ago
Anonymous
bloodborne getting steadily worse after central yharnam and having worse bosses in general is a straight fact though
11 months ago
Anonymous
So fricking good. The best part of this is how he was able to trade hits for HP by landing his. So fricking good.
11 months ago
Anonymous
DS3 sold 4 times as many copies as BB. You're the contrarian, troon.
They look cool but that's the same number of moves as weapons in Dark Souls 3 get. Transforming them is more impactful than two-handing but it's the exact same idea.
that's false, DS3 weapons have about 50% the number of moves per form or less. I suppose you could argue slotting different weapon arts makes up for it but it really doesn't, frick limited mana-consuming melee attacks
11 months ago
Anonymous
>slotting different weapon arts
So you didn't even play DS3, huh? Because you're talking about Elden Ring here. FOOL.
11 months ago
Anonymous
whatever, the combat is basically the same except you can jump and do guard counters. I couldnt bother to play DS3 more than once
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you talk about a game you never played?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I played it in 2018 or 2019, its combat just blends together with Elden Ring in my memory because it felt exactly the same
11 months ago
Anonymous
ER is 40% slower than DS3 and every single weapon has a vastly expanded move set with 4-5 animations on the R1 chain while DS3 just had 2 swings on a loop.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Bloodborne combat gives a great feeling of being a badass superhumanly dexterous Van Helsing character
In ER I was able to get a similar feeling but only when using slow heavy weapons + shields with guard counters and parries. You feel like a big hulking knight smashing everything if you play good and keep getting staggers
so I guess BB is more fun for DEX and ER is for STR
11 months ago
Anonymous
BB has horrible dex weapons
11 months ago
Anonymous
ER with bloodhound step and bleed/poison/frost curved swprd and with a repeating crossbow is insanely fast.
>32 moves per form
absolute bullshit unless you're counting nonsense like "ohhh the horizontal swings have different animations!" as practically different attacks
in any case that shit isn't even really the appeal of the souls games anyway. these games aren't devil may cry, they're closer to something like castlevania. IMO being weak with a kind of limited weapon moveset is an expectation of the series. that doesn't mean everything needs to be a short stick that you only press R1 on but that's the baseline gameplay of the series and it doesn't bother me when the games largely stick to it. Sekiro has literally one real weapon with an extremely limited moveset and I think it's the best game in the "series" if you count it
You can't cheese DS1 bosses with just basic soul arrows unless you go 50+ INT and magic damage rings/buffs.
This webm has a player with just the min requirements for soul ray.
DeS bosses also have 1/2 of the average HP of DS1 bosses, so that's why they're insanely easy.
The boss fights aren't why people like DeS, a lot of them are at least interesting and unique but only like three or four of them are actual fights and not just gimmicks
What you people "like" about DeS is so ambiguous and made up
11 months ago
Anonymous
It has good level design and atmosphere, there's nothing ambiguous about that and putting the word like in scare quotes just makes you sound braindead
11 months ago
Anonymous
Only Latria and Stonefang have decent level design, the rest of the game is extremely linear and uninteresting.
11 months ago
Anonymous
1-1, 1-3, 2-1, 2-2, 3-1, 3-2, 4-2, and 5-1 are all great levels
11 months ago
Anonymous
Only 1-1, 2-1, 2-2, 3-1 hold up to DS1 level design with lots of verticality and multiple paths/shortcuts.
>linear
That means the level designed is good and focused without pointless backtracking
No, it means they're literal tunnels like 1-2, 4-1 and 4-2.
11 months ago
Anonymous
lol I knew you were going to post this, you always cherrypick the one singular level in the whole game that's designed that way as if every other level is like that
11 months ago
Anonymous
4-1 and 4-1 are just like this but on a cliffside.
1-3 and 1-4 are also the same with a few side paths, literal main road to the boss fog in the castle.
And 5-2 is a big round sludge lake with a few islands.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>linear
That means the level designed is good and focused without pointless backtracking
11 months ago
Anonymous
funny how "linear" suddenly becomes good when we talk about DeS, but bad when we talk about any other game
11 months ago
Anonymous
Have you not seen all the people who constantly shit on open world?
They have a point too, open world sucks out the soul
11 months ago
Anonymous
>good level design
No it doesn't. More levels than not are just straight lines and narrow walkways. >muh atmosphere
like i said completely made ambigious mumbo jumbo for hipsters.
11 months ago
Anonymous
One(1) level in the game is a straight line and even it has two levels and is designed as a gauntlet
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
The "levels" leading up to the archdemons of each archstone aren't true levels and no one ever counts them because they're so tiny
11 months ago
Anonymous
Amazing
11 months ago
Anonymous
No one has ever counted them as levels in the 14 years the game has existed, secondary-kun
11 months ago
Anonymous
>When hipster DeS gays all get together and decide what a level is the level design is good if you dont count the bad ones
Wow very convenient
11 months ago
Anonymous
No one counts them because they're all 10-30 second corridors leading from the previous boss to the archdemon you doofus, the only ones that even put any enemies in your way are Latria and Boletaria. Why would people count them as full levels?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>DeS level design is good >All those 10-30 second corridors
Yeah sounds great lol so why do people like this game again besides being hipsters?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh ok we're just pretending to be moronic now, have a good one man
11 months ago
Anonymous
And yet they claim DeS is "the most complete and well polished souls game"
It's but its obvious these "levels" plus the 6th archestone are cut content and a big stain on the game.
The endgame 100% gimmick bosses are also like that because they ran out of time to make decent ones like the first/second bosses in each zone.
Shit like Astreea and Monk are literally 2 npc invader duels.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>And yet they claim DeS is "the most complete and well polished souls game"
No one says this lmao, it's well known as the most rough around the edges Souls game with the most broken shit in it and an entire archstone cut out because they ran out of time and/or money
You know when people say the PC player base ruined the Souls community because they pushed tryhard culture. Yeah, that's you right now with this webm. Miyazaki has always said that difficulty was never the point, just that it was a way to pull you into the world. The Soul Arts are supposed to be powerful thematically, but more to the point, Demon Souls is more flexible with its engagement than the Souls games after it because the bosses are more a puzzle. Some people don't like that while others do. This is why Demon Souls is unique in the series because it's not all about dodge and attack.
Bloodborne is good but not the be-all end-all Souls game that a lot of its fans proclaim it to be. It's a great example of "sweet lemon" thinking (i.e. the opposite of the "sour grapes" mentality) just because it's a Playstation exclusive.
>DS3 altered its own identity to be faster and more aggressive like BB in combat and it was not really an improvement
it was. I can barely go back to DaS1 and Das2 now they feel so clunky slow and outdated.
Everything about DaS3 is bland, dull, and derivative and out of all the Souls games it's the one I feel a desire to replay the least. Literally the entire first half of the game is a miserable dreary slog through one ugly washed out grey and brown ruin or swamp to the next, half or more of the bosses are awful gimmick fights, the combat wants to be Bloodborne's combat without actually being Bloodborne so everything just feels off and wonky, I could go on
>DeS
The only good game with "souls" in the name, avoid the demake >DaS1
Shitty easy game with atrocious pacing, starting moronic soulsperm epidemic only makes it worse >DaS2
Could be good it it wasn't like 40% of the game it was supposed to be. Unfortunately it sucks balls >DaS3
Nostalgiawank cringefest for pvp morons. Only saving graces are abandoning the moronic cast number system and likely being the best game for dagger playthrough, frick you elden ring >BB
Fun but being dead stuck on snoystation and having to pay online ransom for best game experience sucks >ER
Finally after a decade they made a good game. Way too long to 100% though. Hope dlc will be good and they finally fix fricking daggers >Sekiro
Great because it's not a souls game. Where in the frick is the sequel?
Hardest disagree in my life.
DaS3 has like 3 interesting bosses separated by the worst areas in the entire series. BB is full of them and its areas don't come to mind when I think "wiener and Ball Torture".
DaS1 > BB = DeS > ER > Sekiro is not a Souls game > DaS2 > DaS3
Amygdala swamp 95% optional, and Fishing Village is a quarter of the suck of Farron Swamp and Cathedral of the Deep and Carthus Catacombs and Irithyll and
I don't actually like any DaS3 areas now that I think of it, they all suck.
I will say a lot of the Fishing Hamlet is forgettable, but in my nightmares where I run and run and run and be unable to escape, it is in Farron Swamp.
swamp is just fricking annoying and that's all
good loot and good npc invader barely balance the big ass pieces of shit endlessly spamming rancors and grinding the covenant shit for three aeons
>use picrel by itself >lightning dragoon looking guy >beat the game with it, had fun >use the ultra greatsword next run >everything is like 5x easier because I do insane poise damage and my R1 doesn't feel like shit >apparently everyone using twinblades powerstances them for status build-up or uses godskin/elenora for weapon art spam
at least my guy looked cool...
DS3 is literally just Bloodborne with way better bosses and 60 fps. >But... But... Muh heckin world design!!!
Don't care. Also, ringed city reaches the same heights as BB while also being better in every conceivable regard otherwise. Not to mention that it doesn't have the moronic blood vial system that makes exploration a chore and boss fights literal meme-tier easy.
DS3 is by far the best souls game, and even if you're just going off world design and feeling DS1 should mog BB. Sekiro is the one From game that deserves the weird cult fandom that BB has
Anon, 90% of the DS3 bosses are just some knight guy who walks at you slowly while you kite to the left. You clearly never played BB and are still seething because it never got a PC port
>Yeah lemme play this vidya gaem series entries seven times each, I'm totally not mentally ill
There's liking something, and there's being obsessed with something, this is not healthy.
Fricking grow up, go outside, find a job and have some children.
You're right, well adjusted reponsible adult behavior is reprimanding people on an anonymous imageboard on a wednesday afternoon for how they enjoy their hobbies. If only I could be as put together as you
>Bloodborne is the greatest game ever made. >Bloodborne is a game for literature chads, only we can understand the game in a way no one else can, of course reddit thinks their pseudo action schlop is better when all they know is how to bing bing wahoo and stimulate their ADHD infected brains on their mother's basement
No one has ever been able to explain WHY DS3 is bad.
The only complaints I ever see are "t-the story is bad! it references DS1 too much!!!" and "it's linear!!!"
The first one doesn't matter. Story in these games is literally an afterthought. The plot is literally made up on the spot a month or two before release. Only an idiot would care.
The other one is interesting. "It's too linear!" is a genuine argument, but it's no more linear than Bloodborne.
Generally speaking, DS3 is just Bloodborne with shields and ash instead of blood. So how can one be GOTYAY, and one be an irredeemable pile of shit worse than even DS2, when they're more or less the same game? The same goes for Elden Ring, which is generally well liked, even though the gameplay is 1:1 DS3.
And in spite of this, DS1, the half-finished game, the game with Lost Izalith and Demon Ruins, the game with three Asylum Demons, the game where the online basically never worked, the game with 15 fps Blighttown, that one is the best one in the series.
No one in 7 years has ever given an answer to this question. Why is DS1 good, and DS3 bad? The only answer is namecalling and rage. But there is no argument. And there can't be, because it's not a reasonable position. You only think DS3 is bad because you see others call it bad, and you want to fit in.
Just admit it, admit that you are a woman, that you are an illogical beast driven only by emotion and the need to fit in, which is inherently feminine, and this argument doesn't have to continue.
>WHY DS3 is bad.
because it's a gigantic festival of suck ass
bosses suck ass, levels suck ass, dlcs suck ass, arts suck ass, balance sucks ass. playerbase sucks ass. As said before purple phantoms is the only somewhat redeeming part (becasue their implementation guess what sucks ass)
I'm simply pointing out that your response to someone saying "no one has any argument, they just say it's bad" is to repeat that it's bad with no argument.
Black person i ain't writing an essay why a dogshit game is dogshit to appease brainless morons like you. I 100% it two times, it was garbage every time, simple as
11 months ago
Anonymous
then why respond? why intentionally make yourself look like a moron?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>why is it shit? >"because it's shit"
funny that you can't do better than this, keep coping troon
It's entirely possible to run to the fog door in that section even if you play like a moron, that guy was close to accomplishing it but the AI didn't quite go his way this time
same thing as your DS3 webm, most of the time you will die against dancer if you play like DSP did
11 months ago
Anonymous
No it's not the same thing
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It's entirely possible...if you know exactly where to go, which enemies are where, activate the lever beforehand to lower the bridge(no iframes on levers but i'm surer roll spamming to it with half a dozen enemies on you wont end badly, are perfect with your maneuverability, have just enough stamina to not get caught roll spamming, and if you're lucky on the 10th attempt you might get through...oh and if you beat the boss the enemies still come into the arena anyway to frick you up >vs just winging it and getting away picking up all the items
Totally the same thing. God DS3 is so shit.
>The other one is interesting. "It's too linear!" is a genuine argument, but it's no more linear than Bloodborne
Actually it literally isn't an argument because being linear isn't inherently bad no matter how much moronic zoomers say so.
>"It's too linear!" is a genuine argument, but it's no more linear than Bloodborne.
I think most don't give a shit about that comparison when DS1 and DS2 did a better job at being non linear. Here are the specific issues with progression in DS3.
1. You have to defeat the Abyss Watches and the Deacons of the Deep to access Aldrich and Yhorm.
2. You have to defeat Aldrich and Yhorm to access the Twin Princes.
To fix this, you should be able to reach Irithyll without having to defeat The Abyss Watches, Yhorm should be accessible without the doll from the Deacons of the Deep, and the Twin Princes should be accessible without the need to defeat any of the Lords of Cinder.
DS3 with BB guns would've been perfect. Bloodborne's aesthetic is great but man the boss and enemy design is so much worse than DS3. They're both pretty linear all things considered although DS3 is still moreso.
>Once we get to the 15th enemy that is standing in the middle of a big open area where all I have do to win is dodge and light attack, I'm bored.
ok but what do you want? because this is literally what bloodborne is. The only other option being the parry which DS3 also has.
Why is it that Americans always do these kind of things backwards? Who the fricks (other than them) puts the worse thing first? It's the same with "before and after" stuff, I see it constantly on Ganker, they put the "after" pic first and the "before" pic second, what the frick kind of logic is that
< is the "less than" symbol, > is the "greater than" symbol. I know they probably didn't cover this in your croatian dirt village's one room schoolhouse but both are perfectly acceptable to use and one does not "make more sense" than the other
No
DS3 is genuinely my least favorite Souls game
It's just an annoying game to play
Every time I play it somehow I'm annoyed
I know what's gonna happen but it's just not fun
I know they designed it this way on purpose but that really just makes it worse
BB and ER are somewhat similar in design to DS3 but they have other things going for them that make them less annoying than DS3
Oh, good, another 500 post thread of autistic in-fighting spurred on in particular by the one, singular DS2gay who has taken it upon himself to ruin every single discussion about Dark Souls on this board
I wonder if he'll realize the fact that every thread always having the same arguments over and over only proves that his crusading isn't actually changing anyone's minds and everybody still knows that 2 is shit and 3 is better
If you make a ranking and put ER first in just going to assume that you've never played any of the other games and get your opinions from other people on the internet. Unless your only criteria is quantity, it loses at everything. The combat is worse than anything pre-BB, the world design is mostly boring (it wouldn't be if it were just the legacy dungeons and not open world slop), the level design is uninspired for the same reason, most of the "content" is the same bosses repeated 20 times, the bosses overall are worse than DS3 and significantly worse than Sekiro, and the balancing is so dogshit than any build with more than 2 seconds of thought put into it trivializes the entire game. It's a lazy cashgrab: A mediocre souls game attached to a sub-mediocre open world game.
I recently redownloaded ds3 thinking the "Cinders" mod will get to me play it again. Uninstalled after 10 minutes.
Ds3 is just Elden Ring on easy mode.
Yes. Replaying DS3 recently made me love it a lot. I love Bloodbornes world and lore, it's really cool and I think it's the peak of From in that regard but I think the rest of the game is obscenely overrated
I think this conclusion is coming mostly from the platform limitations of Bloodborne. Bloodborne has been isolated to ps4 since it's inception and it's never been updated or had a remastered version or PS5 port that allows it to run solid 60. I think it would outclass ds3 if it got a pc port that allowed us to have infinite consumable items and mod out annoying, poorly designed bosses like micolash. Needing to buy and being able to run out of consumables was not Fromsoft's smartest idea.
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if having max blood vials didn't make the entire game laughably easy. You can get hit like 50 times by every boss and still win. It's such a dumb system and even it alone takes it out of contention of being better than DS3
No. Bloodborne is actually good and DS3 is the worst souls game
I don't remember almost anything about DS3 and it was so bad it was the only one I didn't replay
DS3 is pure shit
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YOU GENES ARE PURE SHIT YOU FAT BALD PIGMENTED israelite!!
>better bosses
>better enemies
>less enemy spam
>level complexity about equal
how is ds3 shit compared to bb exactly?
>inb4 muh art direction
Everything you said is wrong. Don't reply I know I won.
bb trannies are mentally ill
not enough rpg mechanics
all the non-boss gameplay is underpolished, boring and sometimes lazy even.
5 billion stamina and fast rolls with huge iframes makes the gameplay a little too linear
>not enough rpg mechanics
bb has even less rpg mechanics though?
>all the non-boss gameplay is underpolished, boring and sometimes lazy even.
compared to the endless enemy spam off bb to make it le hard it's a masterpiece
>makes the gameplay a little too linear
if by linear you mean better then I agree. waiting for your stamina to recharge is not playing the game
linear gameplay as in opposite of varied.
>just roll until he stops moving lol
works against most bosses and almost every trash mob in the game
Reminder that DS2troony's roll meme couldn't get him past the first set of Lothric knights
>works against most bosses and almost every trash mob in the game
when has this ever not been true? Only elden ring consistently gave enemies roll punish moves and in bb if you just circle the boss with your dashes you will end up behind them and almost never get hit
You will still end up eating a lot of damage by playing this way in ds3 because enemies have large aoe moves which punish you for rolling in the wrong direction
dark souls 1??? hello???
>lots of agile enemies that are difficult to roll away from with your more limited stamina, for example the demon dudes outside anor londo
>level design in many places is tight enough that rolling repeatedly without dying or getting caught on a corner is difficult
>even a couple gimmick enemies like the one that curses you with fat rolls
ok but it doesn't matter since you can just circle everything or trade attacks by blocking. ds1 combat is by far the most exploitable in the series
>lots of agile enemies
lolno
> your more limited stamina
nobody cares when you can circle-strafe assrape and facetank with poise
>level design in many places is tight enough that
you literally cannot get past the enemy because the corridor is so small, and frick you if you have a weapon with the wrong arc
now you are talking about 3 different strategies.
try circling the snake dude at this part.
try blocking havel.
>erm my weaponfu and dominant strategy that i want to beat the entire game with wont work at this one part because le hallway too small
>now I have to engage the other systems of the game and show mastery with different tools instead of brute forcing the entire game with a bkh
THATS WHAT MAKES THE GAME GOOD!!! THATS WHAT MAKES IT BETTER THAN DS3!!!!
having to do different things doesn't inherently make the combat more interesting when it's literally just
>enemy is in a big room -> circle them until death
>enemy is on a ledge/hallway -> block 1 attack then counter
You will only very rarely get punished for doing this and there's no actual mastery to it. Anyone who's figured out how to circle the enemies in undead burg has solved half the game.
DS3 enemies on the other hand have varied combos and attack patterns that punish you for doing the same thing over and over again with no regard to what enemy you're fighting.
how do you not see the double standard you are painting.
>dark souls 1 is easy if you already beat it before, know what every enemy does and the technique that is most effective against them
this is all equally true of dark souls 3.
the difference is in dark souls 1, it's a bit of trial and error your first time through, and that's where the fun comes from.
in dark souls 3, you kill enemies you just encountered for the first time with a little rollspam. you don't have to figure out what they do. you don't have to adapt to level design. you just roll around and hit them.
>the difference is in dark souls 1, it's a bit of trial and error your first time through, and that's where the fun comes from.
It really isn't. Dark Souls 3 punishes roll spam more than Dark Souls 1, and DS1 enemies are even easier to roll around (or even just circlestrafe to death)
I've played them both recently and it's honestly crazy to act like the enemies in DS1 stand up compared to DS3. I prefer DS1 because it was a much more unique experience for me and the world just clicked better with me but DS3 has better, more challenging enemies. Of course it does since it's the forth game in the series. Each one got harder than the ones before it to keep it interesting for veterans.
I honestly can't imagine someone playing DS1 after DS3 and having any trouble with it at all.
the enemies are more modern and challenging. but they are more linear. roll spam solves every encounter.
it was my first game in the series. then i went and played ds1 and had fun. homosexual.
never played that game. homosexual.
>but they are more linear. roll spam solves every encounter
it's interesting how this sentence doesn't make any sense. the enemies in DS1 can be solved by circle strafing. "roll spamming" as you call it requires you to learn the enemy moveset to dodge with the correct timing
>rollspam and more aggressive enemy AI has enough depth to carry the entire game on its back. it doesnt matter that you never need to use planning and strategy to solve an encounter because rollspam is fun
I disagree. Once we get to the 15th enemy that is standing in the middle of a big open area where all I have do to win is dodge and light attack, I'm bored. I don't understand why you need 5 replies to comprehend this basic statement. you don't need to agree with me you just need to accept my argument as coming down to differences in our tastes and shut the frick up.
>dark souls 1 sucks because I already did the planning and strategy 10 years ago. I also am conveniently forgetting about iconic encounters that definitely cannot be solved by running around in a circle like a moron.
frick you
>i can't take this argument about variance in core gameplay between 2 examples where the differences are clearer and apply it to bloodborne, the actual game we are talking about. I can only nitpick dark souls 1 for being old. because my iq is too low to think that hard
closing the thread
and by roll spam you of course mean learning their moveset and responding to their moves accordingly? As opposed to just hit trading with a shield or circlestrafing? Yeah I guess it's non-linear when you have to solve the monumental puzzle of figuring out whether the enemy will be completely trivialized by circle strafing or by shield poking
>and by roll spam you of course mean learning their moveset and responding to their moves accordingly?
No, you just spam roll because stamina regeneration is so fast that it doesn't matter
except it does matter because most of the major enemies and all of the bosses have roll punish attacks and you will get murdered repeatedly if you try to roll spam
No you wont. Just roll past any enemy in the game.
why talk about a game you haven't played? Is it not embarrassing to you that everyone can tell you're lying?
see
You're confusing it with Elden Ring, now that's a better game
elden ring does it more frequently and better but ds3 does the same thing on lots of enemies and bosses
I've watched people like this fight the second phase of Nameless King (which is the easy part btw) and it's so funny to watch them spam roll and get hit by literally every combo and never learn. There are also a bunch of bosses that have combos that are too fast to spam roll against in addition to the one that's too slow. The only reason DS3 has more of a "roll spam" reputation is that the games before it have bosses so simple they don't even demand that much. Especially DS2, all those bosses have a total of 6 attacks with one 2-hit combo if you're lucky and 10 seconds of downtime between attacks. "Rollspam" is a fair criticism of Souls in general but I don't want to hear it from anyone shilling a souls game. Sekirobros are allowed it
nta but you think people don't get filtered by dark souls 3 on their first playthrough you're high.
the point is that if you played through dark souls 1 and bloodborne you're carrying over legacy skill that makes those situations more readable compared to your first time trying to get past the silver knight archers- which are themselves countered by moving fast and timing a roll.
You can't know what the experience of playing Dark Souls 3 blind is unless it's your first game in the entire series- I mean there are people that get hard filtered by Iudex Gundyr
>DS2troony keeps samegayging with the same roll meme
lol, don't use the literal same shitter incorrect argument when you samegay, gaping axe wound freak
you couldn't even beat the first Lothric knight because they actively roll catch, yet your mentally ill trannoid mind still seethes about your roll meme cope
kek
bb has gems which offer more damage variety than infusions
variety such as
+12% physical damage
+8% thrust damage
1.2 hp/s regen
there's no variety in these, you just slot in whatever has the biggest number
Enjoy your higher curse while I enjoy my thrust maxed moonlight sword, moron
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Fpbp ds3 killed the souls series
Discord, trans sisters?
wait so the narrative is that DS3 hate is all artificial now? how does that make any sense?
revenge for people hating on 2
you might need to get some fresh air, anon
he's been making daily ds3 hate threads for almost six years now, if somebody needs fresh air it's him, along with the fallout 3 spammer
kys dogshit2 troony
please actually read posts before you get mad at them
He’s so mad he can’t even read properly, his eyeballs are shaking with rage
It's unfortunate that he can't just calmly be correct, he's got to act like a moron to push people away from the truth.
I single handedly created DS3 vs DS2 and spawned the Fallout 3 vs New Vegas war and made the New Vegas troony meme. I can offer no proof obviously.
I unironically artificially start some flamewars on my own by falseflagging on both sides, but I've done this only four times
fippy bippy
DS3 killed souls
BB is effortposting, DS3 is shitposting
It certainly hasn't aged well.
What do you mean? It's still the most popular souls game by a pretty big margin, while BB is all but forgotten
Only reason BB is forgotten is because it has been stuck in the PS4 for almost a decade, but that's was not my point.
fpwp
DeS > 3 > 1 = 2 > BB
It really is the worst in the series. It is way to linear
>linear BAD
Kys zoomie
my biggest beef with it is it’s just so ugly and boring to look at, everything is just so grey and shitty. Bloodbourne is the same but it felt like its locations had something interesting about them
>It's another Stealth DS2gay thread
Yawn.
And? That doesn't contradict the OP post.
I just replayed it and it's better than what I remembered, but it's still the weakest in the series by far.
Bloodborne's influence on the game was the biggest problem with the game.
true
Yeah, DS3 was improved tenfold by Elden Ring, both in gameplay and art direction.
Bloodborne still has the best dodge animation and trick weapons are faster/more interesting than weapon arts
Correctemundo
Dark Souls 3 > BB > Shitkiro > Dark Souls II
First post unfathomably best post.
fibby pibby
troony opinion
troony fpbp replies, go back plebbitors.
updooted, give us a sec I need to switch IP to updoot this epic response at least 5 more times for all my shit2 troonysisters
You are not wrong.
So Bloodborne.
He had to finish them seven times to get what people got after beating them once?
BB has been fellated so hard so for long he thought he had to be missing something.
DeS and DaS are better than both.
>demon's sharts
>better than anything
kek
I fricking hate morons who don't know how to play without lock on
Fr. Lock on is the real hard mode.
Why do you keep posting this webm of you whiffing attacks?
>Webm
Maybe the lock on should work?
>roll attack
>expects the sword to extend and hit the enemy from any position
the lock on is working, you can see it attacks torwards their direction but the attack itself is short range so it won't land. Different weapons have different roll attacks that make it more useful.
I think he's retarted and wants it like ffvii remake where if you attack from anywhere you run at the enemy and smack them
what fricking kind of moronic Black person plays like this
it's highlighting a problem
>A scientist drops an apple off a skyscraper to study gravity
>"w-well why would anyone jump off a skyscraper durrrr"
what problem
the broken lockon, controls, movement, movesets, moronic enemies, easy gameplay, etc etc
what?
None of those are highlighted in the video.
Explain what is broken with the lock on.
the lock-on isn't broken. it's working as intended. you're swinging a 1-handed sword over 2 meters away from your target and expecting it to hit things. you're a drooling idiot. simple as.
You should try hitting them
Cant even begin to understand what your problem is. Maybe you have severe brain damage?
Baiterald
DeS=Bloodborne > DaS > DS2 = DS3 (very different, but both of middling quality) > ER
People who overhyped Demons are the most obvious fake fans imaginable.
BB=DS3>all other fromslop
>using troony words like fromslop
opinion invalidated
This anon has good taste.
>unrionically thinking a 30 year old cereal box game is better than bloodborne
BB is one of the 5 best games ever made and no ammount of seethe whill change this
I got the platinum for it after beating it four times, along with all the chalice bosses and sold it to get some money back. It was fun for a while but got old pretty fast and the environments are not very diverse so that in turn makes the game feel pretty small compared to even the original dark souls. Still upset that they came out with a dlc like a year or two after release on an extremely short single player game. I did all that within 2 weeks of release as well.
roller coaster tycoon is very fun though especially online
RC and RC2 are such masterpieces in terms of game design and coding that the name of the developer alone became synonymous with groundbreaking in the PC scene, with it's functional engine that aged like wine still being modded and maintained by its own community who still remains bigger than the following of any of the games in the genre that came before or after even from it's
own series
Bloodslop is a casualized repacking of a series that hit it's peak with the second game, the addimited only truly passionated project of it's creator, and is only maintained alive by a pack of trannies making meme funny fan games out of it
But again, comparing these two games is like comparing the discovery of penicillin with a Tyler Perry movie
Wait until you play Dark Souls, it's gonna blow your socks off.
That was both 2 and 3 kek
Why do people make threads about some random Redditors opinion?
Like if it's OPs own opinion, why not post it as such and maybe give reasons? Because who cares about some random person's opinion?
I don't understand
Just wanted to start discussion, especially since I know Ganker hates ds3 lol
I feel like you just wanted to start a flamewar
Maybe I did
>Ganker hates ds3 lol
10 trannies spamming their garbage opinions relentlessly throughout the day is not equivalent to the tens of thousands of anons lurking you moron.
It's bait.
>Just wanted to start discussion, especially since I know Ganker hates ds3 lol
See? Instigating flame wars, one might say.
I wish blatant flamewars were against rules. But mods defend them especially if it's political.
It's strange
Technically it is against the rules, since it's the first reason you can give for a report, but once you've discussed the rule violation in the thread it's too late to report it, because announcing reports is also against the rules.
Cross-posting from reddit and twitter should be ban-worthy as well but I don't see Ganker reaching that point.
Ganker is 90% flame wars and mods want it to stay this way because outrage keeps people coming back, boosts site traffic and ad views, makes it more likely for morons to buy pass
OP's opinion would also be some random person's opinion you moron
I also wish avatar gayging was bannable. Yet here you are
>I also wish avatar gayging was bannable
It is. Just report his posts for avatargayging.
It's against the rules, you should look through the reasons you can report a post sometime
>Like if it's OPs own opinion, why not post it as such and maybe give reasons?
because then nobody replies, reddit garbage creates a lot of angles to attack so the homosexual OP can get more (You)s
How do you even know its from reddit and not an article?
Not even slightly, out of the 3 DS games, BB, and ER, DS3is the worst one.
I came to this conclusion after playing DS3 once, this guy is a little slow
This. Gankershitters got filtered hard by DS3 since it balanced PvP with upgrade matching and when they were on an equal footing they got their shit caved in.
>Hallway level design
>No world building whatsoever, has to rely entirely on DaS1 for any actual piece of lore so vaati can make a whole 1 hour video on shartus barbus
>Looks ugly
I will say this though, the DLC and PVP on DS3 were kino, and i genuinely miss doing invasions on Irithyll
DS3 was kino for PVP, it was the PVE that was shitty. If we're ranking by PVP, DS3 is near the top, if not #1.
DS2 iron bridge pvp absolutely sharts on DS3, so did the pvp arenas in the pvp covenant. I loved hosting huge fight clubs with my warped sword hex dex homie
literally everything you said is a lie
>one area
>swamp
>looks like a swamp
>(you): REEEE
damn Black person, I hope you never had to play DS1&DeS to get through their damp dark swamps either
That picture is to prove that "hallway level design" is a lie, right?
>sequel of the game builds off of prior game
>REEE MY GAPING AXE WOUND IS BLEEDIN AAH IT HURTS
why is DS3 the only sequel in the history of sequels to draw out this level of psychotic mental illness?
I dunno but it's funny seeing them blame ds3 for rehashing when dark souls 1is just as guilty of it. They haven't played demon's souls and it shows.
Oh, DS2troony shits on 1&DeS too, depending on the bait thread, and tries to gayop beef between ER and other Souls games with bait threads too, very unsuccessfully.
He's particularly upset about 3 though, because it invalidated his troony coffin game. (ironic, since that's his soon to be destination)
>Game series that has been about and endless cycle ends with a game that is part of cycle
WOOOOOW
I've been saying this for a long that that even though Dark Souls III is incredibly unfinished and will never be fully realized it still feels much better to play, has better locations and the bosses are heaps better than Bloodborne. Its like comparing a sapphire to a ruby covered in a little shit, like yeah the ruby has some shit on it but its still better.
>berserk fan is a moron
checks out
I disagree on a purely aesthetic basis.
DS3 is an uninspired rehash. I cringed at every DS1 reference.
You sound like someone who jerks off to scat porn
You sound like an autistic homosexual.
now you sound lke a israelite who jerks of to scat porn
I hope you have a nice day, moron.
lower your tone when you speak to me you shit eating israelite.
agreed, that was my exact thought as I read his post
UH REMEMBER DARK SOULS 1 XD
OMG IS THAT GWYNS THEME THIS GAME IS HECKING EPIC
WHY ARE YOU FRICKING UBER Black person SO DAMN LONELY THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOU DAILY DARK SOULS BAIT THREAD!!!!???
Fricking WHY
Get some friends or meaningful hobbys you absolute subhuman piece of shit. Imagine being such a lowlife that (you)s are the only reason to keep you alive.
have a nice day.
you mad?
DS2troony is kept alive solely by their daily dilation routine on Ganker, ever since he cut his knob off.
How much blood did you piss today troony?
Has your wound gone septic yet? You painfully rotting from the inside out is a funny as frick way for you to die, ngl.
>realize players of 1 liked it magnitudes more than 2
>make 3 more of a sequel to 1 and gloss over the elements of 2
Seems like From was just giving people what they wanted
>A SEQUEL... IS A SEQUEL?!??!
>KGHBSEDHGIOHGFIOAGFIOPAHGFGFUIGVAFUIVAF!
DS3 mindbroke sad Black folk like this so hard.
>Average main game
>Top tier DLC
What went so right?
Like all Fromsoft games, the DLC mogs the base game. Can’t wait for the collective hernia once Elden Ring’s drops and the OST is exclusively 20 minute Kitamura pieces
dark souls 3 dlc is garbage
(You)fishing is moronic, but I’m a sucker for the disabled.
Bloodborne is worse than even ds2 solely for the fact that it runs at 25 fps
This is the literal only flaw in the game btw
60 FPS patch when
Bloodborne is the greatest game ever made.
DS3 took a lot of what people liked about Bloodborne and applied it to a Dark Souls title.
Sure it was kinda linear but whatever, the game is still fun and you can mod it to make it fresh.
>The last boss of the trilogy is a nobody that instantly quotes the title of the game.
kino
>so this is how it ends, huh Minecraft Steve?
>In the end, we really are the Yakuza 4.
>game ends with MC or villain quoting the title
always KINO
Bloodborne is a game for literature chads, only we can understand the game in a way no one else can, of course reddit thinks their pseudo action schlop is better when all they know is how to bing bing wahoo and stimulate their ADHD infected brains on their mother's basement
>IT'S BETTER BECAUSE UHHH IT RIPPED OFF SOME DEAD GUY'S BOOK
we're reaching galactic levels of cope in this thread
correction: Bloodborne is the game for those who have never read Lovecraft to think they know something about the author's work.
Dark Souls 3 was made with Bloodborne's leftovers.
I really, really liked DS3's expansions.
ds3 fans really are mentally ill
says the shit eating israeli discord trannie who makes daily dark souls bait threads just to farm (you)s because thats the only social interaction i gets
I like DaS3, but BB is far better.
I played them both back to back twice and it's absolutely true. BB's only strengths are things like art direction and cool factor (ie. style over substance) while DS3 mogs it in anything gameplay related.
BBs indefensible boss roster alone should make it a black sheep of the series, it only got slightly better with the dlc
It's also trivial to prove this correct because the people shilling bb or shitting on DS3 will either provide no reasoning at all or will just screech about "muh art direction" because they only look at games instead of playing them
>BB's only strengths are things like art direction and cool factor (ie. style over substance) while DS3 mogs it in anything gameplay related.
This is pretty much the reason I haven't gotten a PlayStation for it yet. If I want a game because it has a cool aesthetic, I'm not spending $100+ on it and suffering through 20fps
>BBs indefensible boss roster alone should make it a black sheep of the series,
[HEADCANON]
are you one of those morons who hasn't played the game? Out of the 17 bosses there are three, maybe four decent ones and maybe one standout good fight. You seriously gonna argue that Rom is a good boss? Paarl? Amygdala? Micolash? Wet nurse? Fricking One Reborn? I would legitimately rather punch myself in the dick repeatedly than fight any of them again
Rom would be an above average roster in Shit Souls 2
DS2 and BB have basically the exact same average boss quality. BB inarguably has higher highs but just like DS2, all the bosses are so piss easy that it doesn't really matter. DS3 is really the first game where the bosses are anything more than spectacle.
DS3 bosses are all spectacle
see
They're also piss easy
>Posts webm of guy who's died 140 times 30% of the way through the game
>Actually sweetie your game is piss easy, not ds2!!
Also I've spent a lot of time fighting dancer early for twink builds and her having a DS2 boss recovery level idle time while you're getting busy back there is exceedingly rare. At most you'd get a couple good spanks
>No argument
DS3 bosses are so easy
>expected oceiros be a pain in the ass with dagger
>actually pinwheel tier easy
You didn't make an argument
>it's worse because it's bad
>it's bad because it's worse
>le slop word
I did make an argument, actually. The combat doesn't integrate any of the actual improvements from Sekiro and sticks to the same outdated systems from over a decade ago. The level, world design, and bosses are all brought down because the open world necessitates a bunch of lazily stitched together content. If ER were just the legacy dungeons in a linear package it'd be comparable to DS3, but still worse both because it came after Sekiro instead of before and because the spirit summoning system and general abundance of OP builds makes the game hyper-casual. I don't think there's a single company that actually has the resources to make a focused, polished open-world experience and I also can't think of a company worse-equipped for this than From. ER was just hopping on a bandwagon.
>The combat doesn't integrate any of the actual improvements from Sekiro
Sekiro is a completely different type of game with a completely different foundation for its combat, and even then ER does integrate some things from it like posture breaking
>The level, world design, and bosses are all brought down
Opinion, the legacy dungeons and many of the minor dungeons have very well thought out level design and many of the bosses are some of the best and most fun they've ever designed
>If ER were just the legacy dungeons in a linear package it'd be comparable to DS3
DS3 has some of the blandest level design of any of them, and has by far the most painfully linear world design aside from maybe Bloodborne which is also a fairly different type of game in its own right
>spirit summoning system and general abundance of OP builds makes the game hyper-casual.
Literally every single one of these games has "easy mode" weapons and spells any butthole can use to cheese the games, going all the way back to Demon's Souls. No one is forcing you to use any of them and the games are all perfectly playable and beatable without them, ER included
>ER was just hopping on a bandwagon.
A nearly 20 year old bandwagon? By all accounts they went with open world mainly for the increased sense of scale, which works perfectly well. While there's no official word on it, the "copy/pasted" content feels like it is the way it is because they didn't really expect most players to autistically comb every single pixel and square millimeter of the map, so most players would encounter some of the repeat bosses maybe once or twice over the course of a playthrough rather than every single one in the game. Even then it still has more enemy and boss variety than nearly any other game of its type ever made, and there are no literally copy/pasted dungeons, every single one of them has a unique layout. They feel samey because they use the same 6 or 7 tilesets, not because they're literally identical
Anyone who likes Dark Souls 3 is a subhuman with low iq.
>Anyone who dislikes Dark Souls 3 is a subhuman with low iq.
Completely agree
>playing FROMSLOP after DS2
Lmao, couldn't be me
Damn someone really pissed off the 13 year old DS3 fanboy.
>DS2troony so upset they won't (you)
kek, when your parents find your corpse one morning, they will celebrate so hard.
Reminder than only DaS2gays hate DaS3, and anyone who likes DaS2 is a literal shit eating subhuman.
SUMMONING DS2gay
Is that DS2? Goddamn it looks like rancid liquid shit
yes and it's movement is definitely not fast and fluid, and it's combat is definitely not deliberate and tactical, and it's
>enjoy two games to the point of playing them seven times
>still feel the need take part in sterile discussion about worthless ranking
Watch Mojo ruined your brain. Why should I give a shit about top tens , goty and this kind of bullshits? Just play what you like, no need to compare everything
>shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit
What is it with ds3 gays and shit?
this you?
Most of the posts impotently seething about 3 are DS2troony, yes.
He makes these bait threads when the HRT kicks in and he feels particularly suicidal.
Outside of a few bosses DS3 has an almost unnatural quality of being forgettable as frick. I finished it like 5 times and I only remember like 2 areas and 4 bosses.
saying you can't remember anything about the game isn't criticism, it's just a sign for you to see a neurologist
I don't have this issue with any of the other games, except for ds2 but that's memorable because it's shit (had very good build variety tho).
DS3 has shitty areas with no color, like they set the fricking saturation to 20% for the whole game. Then most of the bosses are like partially gimmick fights but shitter than DeS. Those aren't an issue with the DLCs since they seemed to pull their thumb out.
Yeah the world being decrepit and desaturated was on purpose to follow the theme of the world living long past its end like a man with insomnia. Hallucinations and all. It's not pretty to look at though.
Your post is fricking weird bro
Why? Because I'm aware of the message and themes of a game? Gunna shame me for that?
If you are a legit poster forgive me, there is literally a Ganker mod who stalks my post since I shitposted on a general she(male) likes. Your post gave off major vibes that you are that homosexual.
I'm 100% not schizo I swear
>I'm 100% not schizo I swear
Don't worry I'm gangstalking you. The way you sneeze is funny.
>memorable bosses
>memorable levels
>memorable music
>memorable DLC
>memorable NPCs
>memorable finale to the series
lolno, you're just a butthurt samegayging pissbaby
obvious samegay is obvious
Both are good but ds3 enemies feel a smidge too quick and aggressive.
I believe that Bloodborne is the better game, but If I had to replay either of those games, I would always pick DS3. I would unironically rather replay DS3 10 times back to back before I would ever want to replay Bloodborne even once.
Why? Bloodborne is highly replayable
I hate every single one of the boss fights.
until you remember you will have to fight all the shitty bosses and go through all the areas spammed with 10000 harmless enemies
Sekiro>*
Yes, absolutely.
Bloodborne is the MOST overrated pos ever hyped by FromSoftgays.
I never played BB, and I would rank DS3 below 1 and 2 personally, but I did really enjoy playing it. The Ringed City and Painted World were great expansions too.
DS2 is better than both.
god this board is so fricking moronic. the most reddit of reddit bait and you fricking embarrassments still reply en masse. fricking have a nice day.
>mfw Dark Souls 3 is so bland, you need to summon DS2 fans in order to have a conversation / active thread
>yfw you look down and your wound is bleeding again
I have no idea what that means, so I'm just gonna assume you're fricking nuts. Or just addicted to discord or whatever you fatherless kids use these days.
>DS2troony dicklet projecting
I enjoy both very much. As an esthetical man I prefer BB, but DS3 is probably a more enjoyable game in terms of replayability.
Sekiro is better than both of them though, obviously.
Always preferred 3
sekiro > ds3 > bb > ds1 > des > er > ds2 > desr
>er so low
why though? it's literally just ds3 but more
Unusual to see someone with perfect taste around here.
Sekiro getting the flowers it deserves, I love to see it
Sekiro isn’t a soulsborne game. it’s really fricking good and better than most, putting it in that lineup does it injustice tbqphwy
I agree with this for the most part but would honestly put DS3 in the spot below Dark Souls.
Sensing a pattern you don't like tactical and methodical gameplay.
Explain
DeS remake is better than DeS in every conceivable way. It literally only catches shit because it's a PS5 exclusive
Yes
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sanest ds2 enjoyer
damn, never seen DS2troony having a melty this bad before kek
From best to worst.
>pic
Don't agree? You should.
I can tell your IQ is below 90
Yes, never played Ninja Blade though.
You should.
I've never played AC, and I definitely won't play new one.
Now you post your list. It would be insulting (for you) if sub-90 IQ anon has a better taste in games.
>Now you post your list. It would be insulting (for you) if sub-90 IQ anon has a better taste in games.
But your low IQ ass interprets good things as bad, that's the entire point. Of course a good list would trigger you.
So no list. Fair.
I can tell your IQ is above 130
You're so insecure, you've been samegayging for this entire thread
I literally just got here you fricking schizo, that was my second post
Idk I only played ds3 for an hour and dropped it, not because it was bad (though thats what I said at the time), but because I’d been playing bethesda games for so long all my game skills and expectations had gone to total shit.
You know, maybe I should finally revisit the gam-
>$80 not on sale, never on sale
Damn those cheap israelites at fromsoft. At least a person never has to think “I’ll buy it on sale” with fs.
BB=Sekiro>ER>DS3>DS1>DS2
Bloodborne is just the beta for dark souls 3. I don't like how it influenced 3 to be super fast flailing rollshit, but both are still great. DS3 is obviously better in every way unless you really dig the BB setting of... random victorian + 3 seconds of lovecraft.
BB is the best Soulsgame. It has the best setting and the best variety of weapons. I wish we had more decent games set in the victorian era.
>reddit screenshot thread
>people reply seriously to it that trash
you all need to go back
Only hoof post.
yes lol
DaS3 has some of the tightest level design and boss design in the series and those were always the actual reasons I played Souls. IMO Bloodborne's levels outside of Yharnam itself are mediocre and it's filled with mediocre-to-weak bosses that are touted as being good for thematic reasons.
I also earnestly believe your position on whether you prefer DS3 or Bloodborne depends on which game you committed to first and you'll find the second one a slog because they're such similar games.
It's real simple, if you think DS3 is the best, you've:
>never read a book you weren't required to
>never traveled outside your country
>never willingly gone to a museum or theatre
>never tried any form of art for recreation
simple as, you're just uncultured. it's not your fault. (it is)
if you were cultured you wouldn't be playing children's games dipshit
>DS2troony has made 40 posts without (you)ing the OP
you do know everyone can recognize you samegayging, you HRT rotted moron
No.
>masterpiece
Dark Souls, Bloodborne
>good
Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 3
>okay
Sekiro, Elden Ring
>absolute trash
Dark Souls 2
bb peaks at central yharnam and it never gets anywhere as good afterwards
almost majority of levels and bosses are forgettable
ds3 is just a mixed bag
they should stop with this dumb obligation to always have a forest and a swamp
Why do people keep saying Bloodborne is the best game ever made?
I think it's because at the time it came out it was the sequel to dark souls that everyone wanted. More intense, more aggressive, more mysterious, new setting, etc. I think if you weren't part of that hype train and don't have that emotional investment you just won't understand why people relentlessly fellate the game like me, lol
>the sequel dark souls fans wanted is a dumbed down spammy r1 game with zero depth, challenge, and runs at 15 fps
This is why souls fans are moronic.
Salty Xtroon detected
Nah I only got around to playing it this year and it's easily the best FS game. DS3 and ER have better bosses, but BB is far more fun to explore
yeah i never understood what people liked about BB so much
i barely remember any of the bosses except orphan of kos because they were all so easy
>yeah i never understood what people liked about BB so much
the art direction. that's it. That's the entire reason why it gets so much praise from brainlets who prefer looking at games to playing them
it's "one game"
if it ever get ported to PC or xbox it won't, the obsession will stop nigh instantly
of course the redditor thinks ds3 is better than bb
>DS3 has good bosses and shit everything else
>Bloodborne has shit bosses and good everything else
DS3 has better level design and more build variety than BB as well
I can't think of a single thing BB does better, maybe you really the aesthetic i guess
main games only:
good dark souls 3 bosses
>gundyr
>vordt
>abyss watchers
>deacons (no apologies i think they're funny)
>sulyvahn
>aldrich
>dancer
>dragonslayer armor
>the champ
>lothric
>nameless king
>soul of cinder
good bloodborne bosses
>micolash (ONLY because he has funny lines, overrated otherwise)
>Cleric Beast
>gascoigne
>Gehrman
>Martyr Logarius
>Amelia
beast bosses that just lunge at you and become a hitbox are lame and so are puzzle bosses unless their gimmick is genuinely interesting. i think from realized this which is why so many of their games' boss rosters are now dominated by "thing with big sword"
Logarius
any boss that spends half the fight dashing away from you and has bullshit attacks that require lightning reactions is automatically shit tier
giving them credit for gehrman being good is dumb as hell considering he's just a normal hunter miniboss with 5x the hp
i'll go to bat for dark souls 3 but logarius was my favorite fight in bloodborne. I just remember actually having a lot of fun with that fight which i didn't with things like darkbeast paarl and almost every chalice dungeon boss
maybe I was just sick of the game by the time I fought him since he was one of the last bosses I did but I genuinely hated chasing him around the arena and then having to spam heals in the second phase because some of his attacks are impossible to react to
Micolash overrated? I've never heard someone say they like Micolash.
I love Micolash the character to the point it bleeds into my perception of the boss but even then I'm the only one I know of who feels like that
Easily my favourite boss from the base game.
I'd rather play Nioh or Stranger of Paradise.
Bloodborne has better weapons which account for a good 30-40% of the experience and nothing less, and has better "secret" areas, and is better at building up places that *feel* more special. To this day I still get that feeling of getting closer to the secrets of the world, and like I'm trespassing somewhere I really shouldn't be when I visit places like the waking Hunters Dream with the sleeping doll, Upper Cathedral, and the cave up to the back of Iosefkas Clinic. Atmosphere is a specialty of BB, but DS3 has a better sense of journey through traveling outwards.
>Bloodborne has better weapons which account for a good 30-40% of the experience and nothing less
better how? the weapons are literally just
>faster thin weapon
>slower wide arc weapon
anything that isn't that is just gimmick shit that no one uses unironically
I'm a big atmosphere and exploration afficianado and I just didn't get that from BB. I knew a lot of it in advance which usually hurts, but I also knew about Ash Lake in Souls 1 in advance and that was still pretty special.
Everything is equally special, equally viable, equally versatile, and can be upgraded to cater to any build. This makes each one feel more special than the 20 copies of the straight sword, greatsword, and spears that function the exact same for cosmetic sake.
Good joke, usually this is a cope by people who cant play BB. Bloodborne's weapons, animations, theme/aesthetics, music, combat mechanics and lore all blow DS3's away. Bloodborne's combat is souls perfected and it was a huge shame that they played it safe with ER and just copied DS3's lame system
It's funny that you can get away with all these lies precisely because no one played BB
>because no one played BB
honestly my feeling after playing it, feels like a big inside joke that everyone is in on and the goal is to get suckers like me to buy a ps4 and play the shitty game
>ER
>just copied DS3's lame system
Only if you ignore the fact that Elden Ring combat shares as many similarities to Sekiro combat as it does to DS3 combat
i don't get the "bloodborne's weapons are incredible" claim either. it's not like their movesets are character action game tier. you have a FEW additional buttons and even with those buttons a lot of enemies are so quick that you default to R1 spam (which is extremely, intentionally effective in this game) anyway. it's cool to be able to do a sweep and a slam with the kirkhammer sure but it definitely didn't change everything for me
each weapon having two forms with like 32 moves per form is infinitely better than having 1000 different weapons that share movesets by type and only have like 9 measly moves per moveset (DS3). Especially since you have to dump shitloads of upgrade materials to even make one useful so you just end up stuck fighting with the same shitty little movesets all game
>32 moves per form
They don't though.
Every weapon still has double or more of the moveset of your standard weapon in DS3, and have more care built into each one to feel cooler and more special. It cannot be overstated how much this improves the player experience.
my bad, they have like ~16 moves per form and ~32 per weapon
examples:
https://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/11/church-pick.html
https://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/03/hunters-axe.html
Still way better than DS3's puny movesets. When you ask people what their favorite weapon is in BB you will get 20 different responses because they are all so great
>When you ask people what their favorite weapon is in BB you will get 20 different responses because they are all so great
No you won't you'll hear Kirkhammer and Sawblade and that's it.
I am always hearing church pick, kirkhammer, HMLS, stake driver, beast cutter, Amy arm, bloodletter. Nobody says the saws.
This thread is pure contrarianism circling back to plebianism, they were made at the same time and everyone has known since 2016 that DS3 is the rushed soulless cash-grab sequel one and BB is the soulful one. DS3 altered its own identity to be faster and more aggressive like BB in combat and it was not really an improvement
bloodborne getting steadily worse after central yharnam and having worse bosses in general is a straight fact though
So fricking good. The best part of this is how he was able to trade hits for HP by landing his. So fricking good.
DS3 sold 4 times as many copies as BB. You're the contrarian, troon.
>Absolutely terrified gameplay
le heckin soul!!!
They look cool but that's the same number of moves as weapons in Dark Souls 3 get. Transforming them is more impactful than two-handing but it's the exact same idea.
that's false, DS3 weapons have about 50% the number of moves per form or less. I suppose you could argue slotting different weapon arts makes up for it but it really doesn't, frick limited mana-consuming melee attacks
>slotting different weapon arts
So you didn't even play DS3, huh? Because you're talking about Elden Ring here. FOOL.
whatever, the combat is basically the same except you can jump and do guard counters. I couldnt bother to play DS3 more than once
Why do you talk about a game you never played?
I played it in 2018 or 2019, its combat just blends together with Elden Ring in my memory because it felt exactly the same
ER is 40% slower than DS3 and every single weapon has a vastly expanded move set with 4-5 animations on the R1 chain while DS3 just had 2 swings on a loop.
Bloodborne combat gives a great feeling of being a badass superhumanly dexterous Van Helsing character
In ER I was able to get a similar feeling but only when using slow heavy weapons + shields with guard counters and parries. You feel like a big hulking knight smashing everything if you play good and keep getting staggers
so I guess BB is more fun for DEX and ER is for STR
BB has horrible dex weapons
ER with bloodhound step and bleed/poison/frost curved swprd and with a repeating crossbow is insanely fast.
>32 moves per form
absolute bullshit unless you're counting nonsense like "ohhh the horizontal swings have different animations!" as practically different attacks
in any case that shit isn't even really the appeal of the souls games anyway. these games aren't devil may cry, they're closer to something like castlevania. IMO being weak with a kind of limited weapon moveset is an expectation of the series. that doesn't mean everything needs to be a short stick that you only press R1 on but that's the baseline gameplay of the series and it doesn't bother me when the games largely stick to it. Sekiro has literally one real weapon with an extremely limited moveset and I think it's the best game in the "series" if you count it
they're both worse than demons souls
Demon's is the weakest souls game and only hipsters praise it.
It was special if you played it near release and I still like Boletaria as a setting more than Lordran. Definitely the worst mechanically though.
>ie hipsterisim
You can cheese bosses with magic in literally every single one of them, I don't know what you think that webm proves
You can't cheese DS1 bosses with just basic soul arrows unless you go 50+ INT and magic damage rings/buffs.
This webm has a player with just the min requirements for soul ray.
DeS bosses also have 1/2 of the average HP of DS1 bosses, so that's why they're insanely easy.
The boss fights aren't why people like DeS, a lot of them are at least interesting and unique but only like three or four of them are actual fights and not just gimmicks
What you people "like" about DeS is so ambiguous and made up
It has good level design and atmosphere, there's nothing ambiguous about that and putting the word like in scare quotes just makes you sound braindead
Only Latria and Stonefang have decent level design, the rest of the game is extremely linear and uninteresting.
1-1, 1-3, 2-1, 2-2, 3-1, 3-2, 4-2, and 5-1 are all great levels
Only 1-1, 2-1, 2-2, 3-1 hold up to DS1 level design with lots of verticality and multiple paths/shortcuts.
No, it means they're literal tunnels like 1-2, 4-1 and 4-2.
lol I knew you were going to post this, you always cherrypick the one singular level in the whole game that's designed that way as if every other level is like that
4-1 and 4-1 are just like this but on a cliffside.
1-3 and 1-4 are also the same with a few side paths, literal main road to the boss fog in the castle.
And 5-2 is a big round sludge lake with a few islands.
>linear
That means the level designed is good and focused without pointless backtracking
funny how "linear" suddenly becomes good when we talk about DeS, but bad when we talk about any other game
Have you not seen all the people who constantly shit on open world?
They have a point too, open world sucks out the soul
>good level design
No it doesn't. More levels than not are just straight lines and narrow walkways.
>muh atmosphere
like i said completely made ambigious mumbo jumbo for hipsters.
One(1) level in the game is a straight line and even it has two levels and is designed as a gauntlet
The "levels" leading up to the archdemons of each archstone aren't true levels and no one ever counts them because they're so tiny
Amazing
No one has ever counted them as levels in the 14 years the game has existed, secondary-kun
>When hipster DeS gays all get together and decide what a level is the level design is good if you dont count the bad ones
Wow very convenient
No one counts them because they're all 10-30 second corridors leading from the previous boss to the archdemon you doofus, the only ones that even put any enemies in your way are Latria and Boletaria. Why would people count them as full levels?
>DeS level design is good
>All those 10-30 second corridors
Yeah sounds great lol so why do people like this game again besides being hipsters?
Oh ok we're just pretending to be moronic now, have a good one man
And yet they claim DeS is "the most complete and well polished souls game"
It's but its obvious these "levels" plus the 6th archestone are cut content and a big stain on the game.
The endgame 100% gimmick bosses are also like that because they ran out of time to make decent ones like the first/second bosses in each zone.
Shit like Astreea and Monk are literally 2 npc invader duels.
>And yet they claim DeS is "the most complete and well polished souls game"
No one says this lmao, it's well known as the most rough around the edges Souls game with the most broken shit in it and an entire archstone cut out because they ran out of time and/or money
>basic soul arrows
>soul RAY
>min requirements
Black person shut your homosexual mouth
You know when people say the PC player base ruined the Souls community because they pushed tryhard culture. Yeah, that's you right now with this webm. Miyazaki has always said that difficulty was never the point, just that it was a way to pull you into the world. The Soul Arts are supposed to be powerful thematically, but more to the point, Demon Souls is more flexible with its engagement than the Souls games after it because the bosses are more a puzzle. Some people don't like that while others do. This is why Demon Souls is unique in the series because it's not all about dodge and attack.
> complains soul arts makes it easy
> memory holes azur comet and sword of night and flame
Bloodborne is good but not the be-all end-all Souls game that a lot of its fans proclaim it to be. It's a great example of "sweet lemon" thinking (i.e. the opposite of the "sour grapes" mentality) just because it's a Playstation exclusive.
>DS3 altered its own identity to be faster and more aggressive like BB in combat and it was not really an improvement
it was. I can barely go back to DaS1 and Das2 now they feel so clunky slow and outdated.
DaS1 = ER > DeS > BB > DaS2 > DaS3
>DS2troony pissing blood in anger again
>samegays for the 100th time the exact same way
>DS2 is literally second from the bottom
>"DS2troony DS2troony"
Are you moronic
>DaS1 = ER
>yet DS3 that low
Not even sure how any of this opinion works.
Everything about DaS3 is bland, dull, and derivative and out of all the Souls games it's the one I feel a desire to replay the least. Literally the entire first half of the game is a miserable dreary slog through one ugly washed out grey and brown ruin or swamp to the next, half or more of the bosses are awful gimmick fights, the combat wants to be Bloodborne's combat without actually being Bloodborne so everything just feels off and wonky, I could go on
DS3 has the most kino online moments.
>DeS
The only good game with "souls" in the name, avoid the demake
>DaS1
Shitty easy game with atrocious pacing, starting moronic soulsperm epidemic only makes it worse
>DaS2
Could be good it it wasn't like 40% of the game it was supposed to be. Unfortunately it sucks balls
>DaS3
Nostalgiawank cringefest for pvp morons. Only saving graces are abandoning the moronic cast number system and likely being the best game for dagger playthrough, frick you elden ring
>BB
Fun but being dead stuck on snoystation and having to pay online ransom for best game experience sucks
>ER
Finally after a decade they made a good game. Way too long to 100% though. Hope dlc will be good and they finally fix fricking daggers
>Sekiro
Great because it's not a souls game. Where in the frick is the sequel?
Hardest disagree in my life.
DaS3 has like 3 interesting bosses separated by the worst areas in the entire series. BB is full of them and its areas don't come to mind when I think "wiener and Ball Torture".
DaS1 > BB = DeS > ER > Sekiro is not a Souls game > DaS2 > DaS3
>its areas don't come to mind when I think "wiener and Ball Torture".
>laughs in amygdala swamp and fishing village
Amygdala swamp 95% optional, and Fishing Village is a quarter of the suck of Farron Swamp and Cathedral of the Deep and Carthus Catacombs and Irithyll and
I don't actually like any DaS3 areas now that I think of it, they all suck.
Cathedral of the deep mogs any individual area in BB, moron
The outside is a slog and the inside is just boring.
>Mud swamp
>Again
God no
The first moments when you explore the corridors are cool, but then it's just tedious.
>Fishing Village is a quarter of the suck
no it really isn't the entire area sucks balls
at least orphan is a great boss
I will say a lot of the Fishing Hamlet is forgettable, but in my nightmares where I run and run and run and be unable to escape, it is in Farron Swamp.
swamp is just fricking annoying and that's all
good loot and good npc invader barely balance the big ass pieces of shit endlessly spamming rancors and grinding the covenant shit for three aeons
Played them all in release order.
DS3 > ER > BB > DS2 > DS1 > DeS
>use picrel by itself
>lightning dragoon looking guy
>beat the game with it, had fun
>use the ultra greatsword next run
>everything is like 5x easier because I do insane poise damage and my R1 doesn't feel like shit
>apparently everyone using twinblades powerstances them for status build-up or uses godskin/elenora for weapon art spam
at least my guy looked cool...
Where did you save this image with that transparency from, the only ones I know use webp format
look at the filename and you should get your answer
/erg/ has a link to them
no
DS3 is literally just Bloodborne with way better bosses and 60 fps.
>But... But... Muh heckin world design!!!
Don't care. Also, ringed city reaches the same heights as BB while also being better in every conceivable regard otherwise. Not to mention that it doesn't have the moronic blood vial system that makes exploration a chore and boss fights literal meme-tier easy.
DS3 is by far the best souls game, and even if you're just going off world design and feeling DS1 should mog BB. Sekiro is the one From game that deserves the weird cult fandom that BB has
>way better bosses
A solid half of them are wet dogshit
Better than BB's 90%
Ludwig alone is better than any DaS3 boss
Overrated boss
Anon, 90% of the DS3 bosses are just some knight guy who walks at you slowly while you kite to the left. You clearly never played BB and are still seething because it never got a PC port
Long story short: No.
Bloodborne had actual inspiration. DS3 is generic goyslop DS1 wannabe with no inspiration.
Frick no. Dark Souls 3 is good, but no way.
DS3 is great purely because it's the only from game with purple phantoms
>7 times
Can we agree that fromdrones are mentally ill?
Yeah lol imagine playing a game you like more than once lmao what gays
>Yeah lemme play this vidya gaem series entries seven times each, I'm totally not mentally ill
There's liking something, and there's being obsessed with something, this is not healthy.
Fricking grow up, go outside, find a job and have some children.
>Fricking grow up, go outside, find a job and have some children.
he typed, completely unironically on Ganker
You're right, well adjusted reponsible adult behavior is reprimanding people on an anonymous imageboard on a wednesday afternoon for how they enjoy their hobbies. If only I could be as put together as you
>playing the game later with a different build is LE BAD!
I fricking love Dark Souls 3 but why did they put two swamp levels back2back
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bait
>Bloodborne is the greatest game ever made.
>Bloodborne is a game for literature chads, only we can understand the game in a way no one else can, of course reddit thinks their pseudo action schlop is better when all they know is how to bing bing wahoo and stimulate their ADHD infected brains on their mother's basement
No one has ever been able to explain WHY DS3 is bad.
The only complaints I ever see are "t-the story is bad! it references DS1 too much!!!" and "it's linear!!!"
The first one doesn't matter. Story in these games is literally an afterthought. The plot is literally made up on the spot a month or two before release. Only an idiot would care.
The other one is interesting. "It's too linear!" is a genuine argument, but it's no more linear than Bloodborne.
Generally speaking, DS3 is just Bloodborne with shields and ash instead of blood. So how can one be GOTYAY, and one be an irredeemable pile of shit worse than even DS2, when they're more or less the same game? The same goes for Elden Ring, which is generally well liked, even though the gameplay is 1:1 DS3.
And in spite of this, DS1, the half-finished game, the game with Lost Izalith and Demon Ruins, the game with three Asylum Demons, the game where the online basically never worked, the game with 15 fps Blighttown, that one is the best one in the series.
No one in 7 years has ever given an answer to this question. Why is DS1 good, and DS3 bad? The only answer is namecalling and rage. But there is no argument. And there can't be, because it's not a reasonable position. You only think DS3 is bad because you see others call it bad, and you want to fit in.
Just admit it, admit that you are a woman, that you are an illogical beast driven only by emotion and the need to fit in, which is inherently feminine, and this argument doesn't have to continue.
>WHY DS3 is bad.
because it's a gigantic festival of suck ass
bosses suck ass, levels suck ass, dlcs suck ass, arts suck ass, balance sucks ass. playerbase sucks ass. As said before purple phantoms is the only somewhat redeeming part (becasue their implementation guess what sucks ass)
>why is it bad
>because it's bad
amazing
so you do accept it's bad
you're a completely moronic subhuman, seriously have a nice day
go watch more jeenine troony
the irony of the ds2 troon calling anyone a troony, you're not fooling anyone
I'm simply pointing out that your response to someone saying "no one has any argument, they just say it's bad" is to repeat that it's bad with no argument.
Black person i ain't writing an essay why a dogshit game is dogshit to appease brainless morons like you. I 100% it two times, it was garbage every time, simple as
then why respond? why intentionally make yourself look like a moron?
>why is it shit?
>"because it's shit"
funny that you can't do better than this, keep coping troon
>it's bad because it is peepee and poopoo
average IQ of the anti-DS3 troon
It's a linear dumbed down spammy rollfest and all the levels are bad
>rollfest
actually yes forgot its combat sucks ass too
They made magic dogshit, and the pvp was nowhere near as fun as ds1 or especially ds2
>magicgay got filtered
lmfao
yeah why dont people like it i dont understand
but wait the bosses will save it...r-right?
>posting DSP footage as an argument
LOL
LMAO even
He's baiting.
What's the bait? It's real video evidence.
evidence of what? someone playing like a moron?
Why can you play like a moron and still win?
because it's a souls game
If you played like that in DS2 you'd die.
It's entirely possible to run to the fog door in that section even if you play like a moron, that guy was close to accomplishing it but the AI didn't quite go his way this time
same thing as your DS3 webm, most of the time you will die against dancer if you play like DSP did
No it's not the same thing
>It's entirely possible...if you know exactly where to go, which enemies are where, activate the lever beforehand to lower the bridge(no iframes on levers but i'm surer roll spamming to it with half a dozen enemies on you wont end badly, are perfect with your maneuverability, have just enough stamina to not get caught roll spamming, and if you're lucky on the 10th attempt you might get through...oh and if you beat the boss the enemies still come into the arena anyway to frick you up
>vs just winging it and getting away picking up all the items
Totally the same thing. God DS3 is so shit.
?
most people like it, it's the most played souls game on steam to this day, and sold twice as much as ds1 and 4 times as much as ds2
>barely 30% in the game and already died 33 times
how
>The other one is interesting. "It's too linear!" is a genuine argument, but it's no more linear than Bloodborne
Actually it literally isn't an argument because being linear isn't inherently bad no matter how much moronic zoomers say so.
>"It's too linear!" is a genuine argument, but it's no more linear than Bloodborne.
I think most don't give a shit about that comparison when DS1 and DS2 did a better job at being non linear. Here are the specific issues with progression in DS3.
1. You have to defeat the Abyss Watches and the Deacons of the Deep to access Aldrich and Yhorm.
2. You have to defeat Aldrich and Yhorm to access the Twin Princes.
To fix this, you should be able to reach Irithyll without having to defeat The Abyss Watches, Yhorm should be accessible without the doll from the Deacons of the Deep, and the Twin Princes should be accessible without the need to defeat any of the Lords of Cinder.
frick no. Bloodborne is the best fromsoft has ever been
DeS = Bloodborne = DaS = DS2 = DS3 = ER
They're all the same shit morons
>hasn’t played any of them
DS2 and DS3 are good games but they're automatically disqualified from being better than any of From's other games by being sequels
Well I actually played Bloodborne and I have to say I agree
BB>ER>DS1>Sekiro>DeS>DS3>DS2
>Soulslop over Sekiro
>ER over anything
have a nice day.
>slop is better than slop
ok? dont care
HA. nope.
BB is the redditor from game so yes.
Absolutely kino
DS3 with BB guns would've been perfect. Bloodborne's aesthetic is great but man the boss and enemy design is so much worse than DS3. They're both pretty linear all things considered although DS3 is still moreso.
>grinding for consumables
this alone should be enough to squash any doubt as to which game is better
pass the discord ds2 sister
>Once we get to the 15th enemy that is standing in the middle of a big open area where all I have do to win is dodge and light attack, I'm bored.
ok but what do you want? because this is literally what bloodborne is. The only other option being the parry which DS3 also has.
Base game? Sure, but Old Hunters DLC saves it.
>adding one linear area with dogshit enemies and 2 good bosses saves the other 20 hours of the game
nah frick you
Why is it that Americans always do these kind of things backwards? Who the fricks (other than them) puts the worse thing first? It's the same with "before and after" stuff, I see it constantly on Ganker, they put the "after" pic first and the "before" pic second, what the frick kind of logic is that
>mutts
>intellect
>logic
< is the "less than" symbol, > is the "greater than" symbol. I know they probably didn't cover this in your croatian dirt village's one room schoolhouse but both are perfectly acceptable to use and one does not "make more sense" than the other
No
DS3 is genuinely my least favorite Souls game
It's just an annoying game to play
Every time I play it somehow I'm annoyed
I know what's gonna happen but it's just not fun
I know they designed it this way on purpose but that really just makes it worse
BB and ER are somewhat similar in design to DS3 but they have other things going for them that make them less annoying than DS3
>Annoying
>Annoyed
>Annoying
Translating from moron to English...
>Filtering
>Filtered
>Filtering
I don’t like any of them.
I agree
seek help
No
Average ds3 hater
Oh, good, another 500 post thread of autistic in-fighting spurred on in particular by the one, singular DS2gay who has taken it upon himself to ruin every single discussion about Dark Souls on this board
Nice
I wonder if he'll realize the fact that every thread always having the same arguments over and over only proves that his crusading isn't actually changing anyone's minds and everybody still knows that 2 is shit and 3 is better
>2 is shit
yes
>and 3 is better
lmao no
evidently not, what a shame
I agree that BB is basically DS3 in a different setting and with less customization.
and actually good
Is it bad if I completed 100% demons souls and bloodborne and never cared to read a single item description? did I play their games wrong?
other than keys the item descriptions is gay fanfiction
Elden Ring, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Dark Souls 2, Demon is Souls, Dark Souls 3.
If you make a ranking and put ER first in just going to assume that you've never played any of the other games and get your opinions from other people on the internet. Unless your only criteria is quantity, it loses at everything. The combat is worse than anything pre-BB, the world design is mostly boring (it wouldn't be if it were just the legacy dungeons and not open world slop), the level design is uninspired for the same reason, most of the "content" is the same bosses repeated 20 times, the bosses overall are worse than DS3 and significantly worse than Sekiro, and the balancing is so dogshit than any build with more than 2 seconds of thought put into it trivializes the entire game. It's a lazy cashgrab: A mediocre souls game attached to a sub-mediocre open world game.
I've played all of them many times and I think ER is the best one since DaS1, your opinion is not fact
I recently redownloaded ds3 thinking the "Cinders" mod will get to me play it again. Uninstalled after 10 minutes.
Ds3 is just Elden Ring on easy mode.
Worst bait in the entire thread
Yes. Replaying DS3 recently made me love it a lot. I love Bloodbornes world and lore, it's really cool and I think it's the peak of From in that regard but I think the rest of the game is obscenely overrated
Stop comparing games. The only one that feels a bit inferior is DeS, but its remake is beautiful.
I think this conclusion is coming mostly from the platform limitations of Bloodborne. Bloodborne has been isolated to ps4 since it's inception and it's never been updated or had a remastered version or PS5 port that allows it to run solid 60. I think it would outclass ds3 if it got a pc port that allowed us to have infinite consumable items and mod out annoying, poorly designed bosses like micolash. Needing to buy and being able to run out of consumables was not Fromsoft's smartest idea.
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if having max blood vials didn't make the entire game laughably easy. You can get hit like 50 times by every boss and still win. It's such a dumb system and even it alone takes it out of contention of being better than DS3
what's the Ganker equivalent to Souls franchise? Nolan films maybe?
Kinda fits, maybe.
Bloodborne has 3 content while Dark Souls 3 has 20
guys we did it! we got the reddit post to 500 replies!
484, not 500 yet
No. Bloodborne is actually good and DS3 is the worst souls game
I don't remember almost anything about DS3 and it was so bad it was the only one I didn't replay
no
Yes.