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Do you ever feel like you're missing out on good multiplayer vidya because you have no friends?
Matchmaking fills in the gaps.
Yes
I try to go to smaller streams on twitch.
But so many of them are literal homosexuals
As someone who plays through random games with my wife at a small scale how can I be less of a homosexual?
who the frick plays multiplayer?
>No friends that are into vidya
Sucks ass, it sucks ass.
>good multiplayer vidya
like what?
OP doesn't want to post games, just Ganker shit
How are you even supposed to make friends in this day and age?
Talk to people. Stop being scared of rejection. Just accept that you're not gonna get many bites and people will ghost you/reject you way more often than you'll find people that genuinely wanna hang with you. But the ones that stay are definitely worth going through the ones that don't.
What games do you like to play, anon?
>get rejected and ghosted thousands of times for the chance of one friend
sounds like a shit deal
Doubt you'll even get 50 in before someone bites, and true friendship is worth all of it. Keeping yourself hidden and not putting yourself on the line guarantees you'll not find friends though.
doubt all you want but that's the truth. the expected value of this is negative as such not worth pursing. the guaranteed negative outcomes aren't worth the extremely slight chance of a positive one.
You're acting like someone you barely know stopping communication is the equivalent of being mugged and raped.
no, no i'm not. but being told "you're worthless human garbage and i want nothing to do with you" thousands of times by thousands of different people is going to wear on you no matter how though you pretend to be.
yes. it depends on the person. for some that ratio is damn close to 1:1 and for some of us it's abysmally low. and yes, yes you quite literally are. see above.
>you're worthless human garbage and i want nothing to do with you
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this is NOT something you're experiencing in reality. I'm skeptical that all of your attempts at friendship have ended with such a declaration. What is more likely is that when someone does ultimately reject you, that's how it makes you feel, and I am sorry to hear that. I want to draw attention to my previous post where I say
>You can't look at rejection as a reflection of yourself, because you can't know the exact reasons someone rejected you.
People reject interaction and friendship for many reasons, and people ghost almost exclusively because they lack the communication skills necessary to talk about problems they're having. Maybe they didn't think you were compatible, which isn't a "you bad" problem, it's a "we don't work" problem.
I'm sorry rejection hurts you so much, but I believe you have the power to mitigate that pain by accepting that you can do everything right and still fail, and it's not a reflection on you. It's not weakness, it's life.
>thousands of rejections
>extremely slight chance
You keep using language that implies you think it's close to impossible to find another person who wants to do things with you. Anon I think you're not being realistic with yourself, and you're probably a lot cooler to hang with than you think you are. You can't look at rejection as a reflection of yourself, because you can't know the exact reasons someone rejected you. You aren't a lesser person because that stranger you did a raid with didn't wanna keep in touch, or because someone out of the blue decides to stop messaging you. But when you find people who do wanna hang out with you, it's because they think you're worth hanging out with. Have a little faith anon.
Such is life.
honestly the best years of my life were had with the same two dudes. we'd just hang out, play vidya, and talk shit about people at school. having just one person you know you can count on is better than nobody.
God gave you the ability to get rejected by obnoxious people and literally filter unpleasant company and you just throw that away.
>literal sour grapes
dude
That's now how the sour grape philosophy works. You didn't give up making friends, !they! rejected !you!. What you gonna do there, cry for the rest of your life for a what-if alternative that never happened?
certainly not lie to myself by going
>w-well i never liked them anyway! i-i dodged a bullet!
yeah people don't say it literally, i didn't mean to say they do. but that's the inherent message of getting ghosted when you strip away the sugarcoating and flimsy excuses.
>People reject interaction and friendship for many reasons
at the end of the day those "reasons" all come down to what i said
>people ghost almost exclusively because they lack the communication skills necessary to talk about problems they're having
no, they just don't think you're worth even an explanation. that's how how subhuman they consider you. people are very much capable of explaining the why and how they just can't be assed because they consider you less than human.
I'm sorry but you're just wrong. People seek the path of least resistance, and ghosting is easier than communication for a lot of people. You're creating malice where it doesn't exist, when the simple answer is people are flawed, fall into bad habits and traps, and typically worry more about themselves than they do others.
>comes down to what I said
What do you say that you think causes rejection?
that's just paraphrasing what i said. they don't consider you worth even the bare minimum of getting over that slight discomfort of saying "yeah this isn't working out because of x, y and z, bye"
>What do you say that you think causes rejection?
people not considering you worthy. that's what it comes down to.
So boiling this problem down to its root, at the risk of being reductive, your problem with the prospect of trying for friendship with people is that there exists people who don't view you worthy of being their friend. And people not finding you worthy of being their friend outweighs the benefit of finding a true friend. Am I correct here?
it's more that i would have to come face to face with the fact that the vast majority of people consider me subhuman trash. i'm already aware of that but you know what they say out of sight out of mind.
I think I understand then. Tell me if I'm off base here, but it sounds like you're putting a lot of weight behind what people think of you, and it affects your perception of yourself. Rejection to you is them finding a fault in you, and because they deem you unworthy, then you implicitly view yourself as flawed. I believe that's why rejection weighs down on you so heavily, and why it isn't worth the potential of finding a new friend. If you're rejected, it's because you're flawed, and because you're flawed, you're less worthy of friendship with most/all people.
I had a similar way of thinking not too long ago, and what got me out of it was ultimately by realizing that everyone is flawed, not just myself, and if people aren't willing to dig past my flaws like I'm willing to dig past theirs, then they're ultimately not worth thinking about. Why offer consideration to those that offer me none? Quite frankly, what people think of me is none of my business, and if someone isn't willing to stick around to get to know me, I can't worry about why. Especially if they aren't willing to tell me, a la ghosting.
No one is perfect anon, and not being perfect doesn't mean you don't deserve friendship.
pretty much yes.
>everyone is flawed
while this is true some of us are much MUCH more flawed than others.
>then they're ultimately not worth thinking about
this is quite literally sour grapes. it just doesn't work for me since it's know it's a bs defense mechanism.
>No one is perfect anon, and not being perfect doesn't mean you don't deserve friendship.
like i said some are far more imperfect than others. people are not equal at all and some are much much better than the average while others are far far below it. and evidently at some level of imperfection it does.
I'm flawed and would ghost you because your mindset isn't good for my mental health.
That isn't sour grapes. It is unhealthy to place so much emphasis on people's opinion of you that it negatively impacts your life. Sour grapes is
>I enjoy being alone anyways, people suck and I'd rather be by myself
You clearly aren't doing that. It is not a bs defense mechanism to devalue the opinions of people who don't even offer you enough consideration to get to know you.
>like i said some are far more imperfect than others. people are not equal at all and some are much much better than the average while others are far far below it. and evidently at some level of imperfection it does
You're viewing "worthiness" as a black and white scale, a value with a threshold at which you become valid for friendship, then the reality is not nearly that simple. People look for different things in friends, value traits differently, and saying "some people just aren't good enough" is being overly reductive, and THAT is a defense mechanism.
And I cannot stress this enough, if people do not take the time to get to know you, then how can their opinion of you be valid? They don't stick around long enough to actually learn who you are, so how can you use them as a measure for who you are?
it's just human. and it makes sense given the fact that we're a social species and being accepted by the group was literally the difference between life and death back in the day. it's less extreme nowadays but others still dictate and control an extremely big portion of your life. and i still don't see how going "well i didn't want them anyway!" after getting rejected isn't literally the fox and the grapes but with humans. and devaluing their opinion does nothing. their opinion still matters just as much to the rest of society.
>You're viewing "worthiness" as a black and white scale, a value with a threshold at which you become valid for friendship, then the reality is not nearly that simple. People look for different things in friends, value traits differently, and saying "some people just aren't good enough" is being overly reductive, and THAT is a defense mechanism.
well yeah it's a spectrum but at some point it's reasonable to draw the line and round up that 0.0001 to 0. no, they really don't. people are far less unique than we like to think. there is some variation yes but certain traits are universally positive and others universally negative. and how is that a defense mechanism?
>And I cannot stress this enough, if people do not take the time to get to know you, then how can their opinion of you be valid? They don't stick around long enough to actually learn who you are, so how can you use them as a measure for who you are?
evidently you don't need to get to know every detail of someone to decide they're worthless. but the end of the day their opinion is valid because the group at large considers it valid. that's how social things work. the group, the majority decides. i can stomp my feet and go nuh uh all i want but it's pissing in the ocean in the end of the day.
I tried my best, but I'm not qualified to really get into your views on society or the conclusions you've drawn about it. Bottom line is by not trying, you are making a mistake. Sorry you don't see it that way.
well it was a nice talk nonetheless, thanks anon. and i do get what you're trying to say but i'm still confident i'm just saving myself from pointless suffering by not trying.
I already did a lot of gaming with e-friends in the past... 10+ years ago... but they all split and now I don't think I can make new ones because of how much different peoples attitudes are online now. I'm hoping I can get a clean break from being online at all some day, it's not healthy to build a life around something so fickle.
>Needing normie homosexuals to validate my own existence
Zoomers truly are lost.
>good multiplayer vidya
name one
Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth II
32 player cave story
https://cavestorymultiplayer.com/
>not turning on friendly fire
Lord of the Rigs: Battle for Middle Earth
play some multiplayer games with real servers instead of matchmaking dogshit and get to know the people you regularly play it
bam, instant friends who already play the game you want them to
No, because i don't enjoy many multiplayer games, so i don't care. I do actually have people to play with for those i do like, but still
No because unlike you gays i have friends and don't need Multiplayer games to compensate for the lack of social interaction outside
Well with a post like that, you're definitely compensating for something.
I'm compensating the lack of being able to call people a homosexual on other platforms. If i need to drop the f or hard r Ganker got me.
Now stop being a homie
>got friends who are in to vidya but they only play sports or fortnite
Oh God why it the only shit they play in this fricking country.
I’ve played almost strictly multiplayer games for over 2 years now and I feel like I am a soulless husk that has missed some real comfy single player experiences. So opposite for me. If I never play MP again I won’t be sad.
>FOMO effect
Frick that shit, multiplayer is always shit.
Playing with friends, nobody really tries their hardest and it feels wrong to be too intense.
no.
this industry died twenty years ago. im only here visiting the graves of things i once loved.
I don't even play vidya.
Not really.
Playing multiplayer games solo adds an extra challenge that keeps things interesting.
I'm on xbox so every multiplayer game is filled with moronic mexicans
No. I dont like humans with their shit opinions
Id rather figure out how to enjoy time by myself and to enjoy my hobbies somehow.
>Do you ever feel like you're missing out on good multiplayer vidya because you have no friends, Ganker?
No, because there hasn't been a lot of good multiplayer vidya releasing. Unless you consider the stream of battle royale, battlepass and hero shooters good.