do you feel like games used to be better in the past? Are games really that much worse now?
do you feel like games used to be better in the past? Are games really that much worse now?
do you feel like games used to be better in the past? Are games really that much worse now?
AVGN is a shitter
Games are just as good as they used to be, it's just that I'm the only person playing the good games that still get released today
everyone is playing fortnight and asscreed wapanese anon
yeah and in the past they were playing sports games
who gives a shit?
What games are those?
chances are it's niche stuff that fits their interests (not yours). The point is there's so many fricking games out there made by so many different types of developers that if you can't find what you like, that's on you.
Delusional moron
truth
you only think games are good from age 8 to 14. so the games you played at that age will always be the best to you regardless of how shit they are.
nostalgia glasses are real
do you think it's nostalgia that people don't like suicide squad or hyenas
Yeah. I preordered 5 copies.
You would think games today were the bees knees if you hadn't already played fricking decades worth of games. If you slept with 100 women, you wouldn't even remember the 78th one.
There were always bad games, moron anon.
>you would think shit tastes good if you hadn't eaten food before
are all new games defunct live service games that chudtubers make 100s of videos about?
Most AAA games are literally that. Elden Ring is not, maybe the God of War reboot games. But most are cynical corporate cash ins.
maybe if you're consooming chudtube content, but not in reality
yeah I watched the quartering saying bud light was bad because it had a troony on it and suddenly every AAA video game had a cash shop and loot boxes. I think I'm currently living through a psychosis.
Obviously and there are objective things that can be pointed to.
This lines up with my experience and is probably somewhat true but it's not mutually exclusive from there also being a real decline in quality.
I just miss 6th gen hack n slash games with breasts and ass, now everything is souls slop with fat communist
games are still good but im mostly playing retro games because they are better
Video games were never good and avgn was never funny
>avgn was never funny
why do zoomers think they get to have opinions
Because they do. A Zoomer born in 2004 is turning 20. When did you first arrive on Ganker? Millennials can't get over the fact that there are people younger than them. I almost 30 and i get shit on for being a Zoomer because i played Minecraft in high school and later Fortnite. There's anons who still think it's the mid 2000s. They haven't gotten over it. They're just angry morons that are becoming irrelevant. Most people under 30 don't remember LAN parties. They can't get over that people who played Fortnite (at release) at 14 years old are in college. They gotta move on.
>this game is poopy doopy
This is peak humor according to millenials
he never said that
which ones? name some games and I will tell you whether they are good or shit
There are still some good games here and there but it is clear that the current day can never hope to achieve what the leaps and bounds from the 90s and 2000s. We live in an era of utter stagnation in terms of technology and ideas.
I'm pretty happy with where games are now actually. 7th gen was the worst era, and we have been gradually crawling back to something decent.
Ganker wont believe you when you say this, because they don't play games.
>something decent
>GaaS out the ass
>game prices going up more
>more and more "cinematic gaming"
>remasters of games 2 years old
anon there are MAYBE 2 passable games in the last 2 console generations
You're wasting your breath, he's a bootlicking shill and/or a subhuman poojeet, of course he's happy with the state of modern vidya.
>7th gen isn't "modern vidya"
This is how you know you're dealing with a zoomer who has nostalgia for all of the shit that Ganker complained about back then.
Ganker Wasn't complaining about the good shit, they were complaining about the horse armor, and lame re-releases.
And what do you consider "the good shit"?
Tf2 before all the hats, Prince of Persia, KOTR, Rachet and Clank, TH2, HL2, vtm:b, thief ds, Far Cry, The Riddick games, Jade Empire, Pyschonauts, Republic Commandos, Fear, Kingdom Hearts, Hitman, Portal, BIoshock, Peggle, Manhunt
Lots of good games came out during that time.
>I don't play GaaS (or at least I don't touch microtransactions)
>I don't buy games new
>cinematic games have always been around, and aren't necessarily bad anyway. Plus, you don't have to play them, you could play Mario or something
>I feel no need to play every remaster
This is all a you problem.
>and aren't necessarily bad
Such as?
Snatcher on the PC-88?
>If you ignore all the problems then things are going great!
AAA games were never good, I dunno why you act like that is all there is.
>if you ignore all of the good games that are out, everything is terrible!
>all of the good games
name them
Out of what I've played recently, RE7&8. the new Hitman trilogy, Death Stranding, Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 3, Pikmin 4, Control, Cyberpunk 2077, Stray, Elden Ring (I guess, though I'm not a huge fan of it), the Yakuza series, Pizza Tower, Spark the Electric Jester 3, Scorn, Metroid Dread, Hypnospace Outlaw and Slayerz X, Cruelty Squad, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, DMC5...
And out of games I haven't gotten around to playing yet, but are on the list, there's Alan Wake 2, Ghost Runner 1&2, the new Doom trilogy, Kingdom Come Deliverance, the Lies of P, Stellar Blade, Nioh 1&2, Lo Wong, Rise of the Ronin, the Star Wars Jedi games, Prey, Zelda ToTK, both new Wario Ware games, Uforia 2, Bayonetta 3, Bayonetta Origins, the RE2 remake, Returnal, Jagged Aliance 3, Ex-Zodiac, Psychonauts 2, nu Alone in the Dark, Bomb Rush Cyberfunk, Warhammer 40K Rogue Trader...
That's all I got off the top of my head. What would you like to be in there?
The Hitman reboot is 10 years old.
they're broadly modern games, and 3 is from 2021
It's just the most extreme example of the names you provided. Mario Odyssey for a example is from 2017. I think modern games aren't as bad as other people claim, but much of the current negative perception comes from the last two to three years.
Broadly modern. Certainly of a newer era than the Xbox 360. I usually play games when they have been out a few years anyway, which everyone should be doing.
That's a better way of looking at it but I do think the last few years do show some serious problems in the industry. But some people are definitely only looking at the shortest term.
>Cyberpunk 2077
>control
>elden ring
These arent good though
>Game prices going up more
Just like they did with Gen 7. Activision took the initative of bumping up the price of games from $50 to $60 at the launch of the 360 with CoD2 and everyone else followed by example. They did the same recently to $70.
the zoomers of Ganker are too young to remember that and have nostalgia for wagglan and dudebro shooters
Yeah, I'm well aware. It really is surreal. Only a matter of time until you see people defend Borderland 2's writing.
there's more indies that you can count. surely among them there is a game that satisfies your autistic niches. you also have sites like itchio where you can find experimental demos and whatnot.
internet lets you immediately know if you'll like a game or not because it's piss easy to share opinions and watch trailers/interviews/let's plays. failing that emulation lets you play all the classics you missed on.
in the year 2016+8 not finding the game for (you) is a literal skill issue.
the 7th gen was the fricking dark ages. nintendo doing nothing but gimmick waggle garbage, jap devs struggling to make the jump to hd, western devs going full brown and bloom and we want the cod audience, pc gaming being abandoned and suffocated by physical drm. i know that the majority of Ganker is young enough to have nostalgia for that era, but it was absolute garbage and things are way better now. even the fricking indie games are better than shit like fez and braid.
The Resident Evil series is the perfect barometer
>RE1 remake, RE4 - Amazing, some of the best games ever
>RE5, 6, Operation Racoon City - what the actual frick are you doing, Capcom?
>RE7, 8, and the new remakes - surprisingly good, actually.
being moronic enough to fall for resetera articles doesn't make the brown and bloom era shooters bad
Resetera didn't even existed back then zoomerchild.
>t. resetrannies
Go back to playing your Gears and Halos kid.
go back to grooming kids on neogaf/resetera discordtroon
>so underage he doesn't know the difference between a discord and a message forum
you still here resetroony?
Never used that godforsaken site since it requires self-doxing to sign up.
Can you at least explain what you're trying to say?
kek looks like the bot broke
So is this zoomer "humor" or something?
What the frick are you talking about?
"Brown and bloom" is not a recent term
>the 7th gen was the fricking dark ages
You weren't even born yet, homosexual.
Tell me more about your nostalgia over call of duty and gears of war, lil zoom.
NTA
I'm 29. I'm not really a Zoomer, but not really a Millennial. Older Millennials like you are going to whine forever about this shit. You'll still be whining about Zoomers in 10 years. Move on bro. Time goes on. You gotta get over it.
he was the one who started the zoomer accusations you illiterate moron
Whatever. Point still stands and applies to those who whine all the time.
Why the frick would anyone try and defend the output of the games industry or the monetization and quality and over marketing cancer? Why teh frick would you do that? Oh its because you are one of the talent less fricks feeding off the carcass by releasing an African american space invade and getting an award for it.
I wasnt talking about post Gamergate when the DEI shit took over. I was talking about before that. Angry, autistic 30-somethings can't accept that Dark Souls is an old game. We're about 3 years away from Halo 3 and Cod4 being 20 years old. That's old. They're stuck in the past acting like they came out yesterday. Fortnite first came out about 7 years ago. In three years it'll be 10 years old.
my nostalgia is more valuable than yours because mines is from an era before cellphones and social media. Cope and seethe
WTF
>all of duty and gears of war
I'm in my 50s and the pre 2014 releases of those beat the shit out of current day multiplayer puke and sequel the reboot 15 the remakening crap
That's great, im in my 30s and remember when Ganker made fun of people like you (this was before the normalgay invasions)
>That's great, im in my 30s and remember when Ganker made fun of people like you (this was before the normalgay invasions)
Don;t try and oldgay me b***h, or try and tell me the past was consensus. This board loved dragon age origins so fricking what? Are we all supposed to sit around and fap to fricking 2D sonic?
I agree, but only if you are totally discounting AAA garbage. Every time I see an Elden Ring or BG3 thread on here I want to hurl my PC out a fricking window.
Vidya is much worse now thanks to diversity hiring practices and outsourcing to poojeets, consultancy firms for ESG and predatory monetization practices, it's fricking grim.
Reminder that based Phil predicted Bimmy's baldness
But he couldn't predict his own failures
>TWO gayS
Fricking kek, did they make fun of DSP at some point?
Nah, what it was that early DSP carried over his FGC heel persona to his Youtube career (huge wrassling gay) and he thought this would be a great way to try and get involved in the anniversary stuff (The Brawl had just happened when this video was made). He actually DID get an invite to CA from what I remember but he backed out of it, likely money-related
Bald off when?
oh man if that's not edited that's so unfortunate
going bald doesn't make you lose your eyebrows, you dope
>if that's not edited
He literally looks like super saiyan 3 nappa, cmon anon
leukimia is a b***h
AVGN movie was good
it was too deep for most viewers
lol cucky movie
Maybe the games weren't better, but the gaming experience was much better
I think goid games are still made but there is something about old games and their design and aesthetics that seem more competent to me. Games nowadays feel like they are just trend chasing and lack soul because of that. It's like they want to attract as large of an audience as possible and that makes things seem less genuine to me. It makes it all seem less focused.
he will never remove the hair, he's too much of a bumbling moron
Yes, compare Dead Rising 1 to Dead Rising 4, Left 4 Dead to Back 4 Blood, Hydrophobia: Prophecy still has the best water physics ever released.
Obviously some good indie games are coming out, but all the AAA money is being spent on "Ass creed 1, but the 27th time, this time with a gay black guy in china."
Don't forget Deus Ex, another game that also goes $0.99 on sale
I'm convinced the only reason ubishit still hasn't gone bankrupt is because they are subsidized and kept afloat by france and canada's governments.
It's highly likely.
>promotes his 2 hours 30 min israelitetube video
Sponsorblock skips half of the video, at 1:17:00
Moony has a real job as an attorney, he doesn't have time to shill his youtube videos on Ganker.
The tldw is that Japan's govt after getting analy annihilated in WW2 switched from using military "hard power" to promote their interests to funding cultural products like anime, video games, etc. to accrue "soft power", which they use to promote their interests. Other countries do the same thing since they've seen how well it works for Japan. I wouldn't be surprised if France is doing it too.
>I wouldn't be surprised if France is doing it too.
They were for a while but that ship has sailed now.
>propaganda is when you have lots of naked children in your cartoons and you say that your country is good
LMAO
Japan isn't doing something that other countries aren't doing, it's just that they have the capital to release a buttload of media. By that logic, the US and in older times, the Soviet Union, were better at soft power politics.
All israelitetubers get the axe
Gtfo
this isnt even a conspiracy theory I'm pretty sure this is 100% confirmed. And their pirate game had to be released early because they were almost in violation of a deal for grant money for it
That foreshadowed what AC turned into. They abandoned the story and just went with historical fiction games set in various eras in various locations. A neverending cycle they can milk. It's also easy to incorporate any ESG/DEI/ERG initiatives.
why do people act like the finances of publicly traded companies are some kind of secret? they are legally required to publicly report how much money they're making and how much money they have
He really needs to just outright shave his head.
Everything was better in the past.
Today is worse than yesterday yet better than tomorrow.
Games are better than ever, but you have to accept the fact that you're only going to find the good ones 5 years too late and that the studio shut down after a single title because no one gave a frick. That process repeats forever.
Plenty of good games still release.
I played every single Fire Emblem, and both Three Houses and Engage are some of the best.
Played all mainline pokemon and a lot of spinoffs, Legends Arceus was one of the best in the series.
Unicorn Overlord is one of my favorite games ever.
Played 7 Zelda games, BotW is my favorite among them.
Holy shit. 3 Houses is one of the worst video games I've played in my four decades walking this cursed hobby.
Games can still be good, but too many games are trying to do too much at 1 time these days. Give me a 20 dollar game that does 1 thing but does it well vs a 60 dollar game that tries to be everything and doesn't do anything particularly well. Also, frick microtransaction bullshit. Specifically frick Valve for popularizing this shit.
There are still some good games nowadays, but as a whole?
Yeah older ones were generally more fun.
Nowadays studios are more focused on being movies, pushing agendas thanks to Blackrock/SBI, and draining your wallet with live service shit than actually making something entertaining.
Developers used to complete their games before they shipped because updates over the Internet were not a real option. Now, they sell you 30 minutes worth of content and gate the rest behind DLC.
Scummy practices have always existed, the difference is that broken shovelware was forgotten in favor of good games and good games that had endless sequels/versions with extra content were forgiven over time. Nobody remembers high-profile failures like Rise of the Robots and people stopped being angry over every street fighter game having several different versions with roster updates and gameplay tweaks.
>sell you 30 minutes worth of content
If anything games are way longer than they used to be, the difference is that they were stretched out by being way less forgiving and having limited continues.
> the difference is that they were stretched out by being way less forgiving and having limited continues
they also involved more gameplay density compared to nowadays you disingenuous zoomer homosexual
You remember snes games lasting for 40 hours because you played them when you were a kid. In reality, these games are extremely short and relied on multiple playthroughs and limited continues. Only jrpgs and platformers with tons of reused assets like smw lasted for a while without resorting to stretching out gameplay time with punishing progress resets.
that's not what gameplay DENSITY means
>there's less gameplay but that's ok because there's less cutscenes
That doesn't make any sense. The game is still shorter even without the cutscenes. And even then, cutscenes aren't exactly a modern thing, they were common on any game that came on a disc.
DENSITY
learn to READ
Ok, and i'm asking you why that matters when there's still more gameplay even if you skip every cutscene.
Not that anon but you are a disingenuous homosexual for dancing around his point so much. Address it or shut up.
What is his point? That there are more cutscenes? Why does that matter when most games let you skip the cutscenes?
>still dancing around
fricking Black person
I'm asking you what your point is. Are you just gonna do the "nu-uh im not telling you!" thing for several dozen posts?
Chrono Trigger SNES have 5-min cutscenes only with textboxes. In Playstation 1 the same game you have 30-seg video cutscenes
what the frick even is density? it's a fricking buzzwords for mouthbreathing morons who have no clue what they're talking about.
games aren't a fricking chemical solution, how do you even measure the density? amount of gameplay per hour? how do you define "gameplay"? it's just circular reasoning with moronic opinioms spouted as fricks for low iq people to sperg over.
as shit as the "we're gonna engooden it later" mentality is you're naive if you think games used to ship 'finished'. if anything nowdays you can hope for patches, back then you'd get shit like ultima 8 which is so unfinished the game barely even is a game and there was no saving it.
you kids don't know how good you have it
Zoomers will never know the feeling of wasting a rental or birthday present on licensed shovelware that you picked out because you liked whatever it was based on. They unironically believe that every game was a 10/10 masterpiece and that blockbuster wasn't a minefield of garbage.
there was no way to know a game was good or bad aside from word of mouth. you had ads on tv or maybe you saw a cool cover on a shop's catalog but if you wanted anything concrete the only way was to buy game magazines. journos were not universally homosexuals and they came with demo disks so you could try out the games.
it was cool and gives me warm fuzzy nostalgic feelings but that's it.
>there was no way to know a game was good or bad aside from word of mouth
I have never played Devil May Cry 2 and I never fricking will.
>there was no way to know a game was good or bad aside from word of mouth
Magazines uses to be a thing.
read the rest of the post.
also i got nostalgic for magazines, i remember a big deep dive of demon's souls and the journo talked about how hard it was but also how cool the game was and he concluded it was gonna be an amazing cult classic but said that "it's not for everybody".
it feels downright alien to read about pre-dark souls opinions on the series. i remember that whole article stuck to me so much i almost bought a special edition i saw on discount. kinda regret not doing it, but probably i wasn't ready for such a game back then
>read the rest of the post.
I do what I want.
>If anything nowdays you can hope for patches
That's the fricking problem.
If a game was unfinished shit before - it was considered unfinished shit, with only excuses being from people who want to justify their purchase of it. You wasted your money - Sad, but you could know or at least warn others, and the game sold like shit as a result.
If a game is unfinished today - it has billions of excuses like "We'll fix it later! It will come later down the roadmap! It will appear in one of the seasons! We will sell it to you as DLC! Yadda yadda yadda!" that will make the average consumer think "Huh maybe it's worth it..." instead of being set-in-stone as shitty halfbaked crap, so people will still buy it hoping it will get better, instead of it being "good" right out of the mold.
>but you could know or at least warn others, and the game sold like shit as a result.
*But you could know it beforehand from friends or magazines that still had journos who played video games back then
literally one of the best video games ever released as a broken mess only salvaged by patches.
Not to mention official patches have existed as long as the internet has been around, and half the time expansion packs were backdoor patches for the base game.
Yeah, it's painful to go back to old games and see that people were paying $60 for an hour's worth of content (or maybe more if you were a child and thus shitty at games).
you're talking to a board that doesn't even remember Spore's debacle, do you expect them to know about acclaim's speeding tickets or the existential fever dream of the hot coffee controversy?
copes for games have always existed, you're just complaining about the current flavor. and like 1 in 10 games even gets close to a change in perception and usually needs to have nailed SOMETHING at launch. no man's sky had the seamless space exploration as a solid base and had the insane hype behind it. people WANTED for it to be good.
most games have exactly what you describe, they get shit on and then whimper and die. redfall is a good recent example and i doubt they'll try to engooden suicide squad
i'll still take the potential for patches over getting screwed over because half of the game was literally missing. morons gonna be morons, let them fall for scams, but patches are still an overall net positive for gaming for me, if a game is good amd a dev is passionate they can add more
If you want an honest answer and aren't just baiting:
'Better' or 'worse' is purely subjective. Objectively, what set past games apart from the current generation is that the major studios and publishers were not afraid to take risks. Not afraid to give new IPs a chance. Not afraid to try doing something new with gameplay, genre, story, graphics, etc.
These days, that sort of risk taking usually falls to indie and AA studios, since big publishers can just wring them dry of cash and move on to the next one if they don't push out something that sells gangbusters.
This has lead us to a gaming landscape where the big titles are highly polished, formulaic mass-appeal ventures that hide their copy and pasted foundation of 6-10 of the same gameplay loops under a heavy layer of graphical fidelity. The soulful passion project releases that try something new end up being typically shorter, more condensed experiences due to smaller dev team size and budget. And when one of those title strikes gold, then it either gets milked to death as a franchise or the innovations it brings to the table get shamelessly ripped off and tacked onto future big name titles.
People that say that gaming has gotten worse are typically only referring to what gets shoved in their face through massive marketing campaigns, and don't spend the modicum of effort to do a bit of digging to find the things that are really worth their money that lie beneath the surface.
i put like 12 hours in Persona 1 before, just randomly trying it out 2 years ago. It was so damn different from the usual jrpg stuffs with the talk tothe demons action. I genuinely wanted to see more of it.
p2 has the same negotiation system with all of the options. If you are more wondering about the gameplay, it was MUCH more common to have first person games like that in the 90s for RPGs with Wizardery and Might & Magic. It's honestly insane if you look at the 90s era where companies made everything from nothing with a lot of custom systems for freedom like that.
There are, again, millions was ways to fix a receding hairline nowadays. He is choosing to look like this.
I don't like how mean spirited games feel now. I don't mean games being hard or anything like that they're just kind of venomous, the developers included.
In some genres yes in others very much no, for racing games and sims were are in a second renaissance
>do you feel like games used to be better in the past?
I had it on good authority they were shitty games that suck ass.
Bad games always existed but now that generations of morons have grown up with the most fricked up industry strandards being seen as something normal and without any sort of perspective on how things used to be theres no reason for game companies to keep shitting ou the most middle of the road or outright bad games as long as the average player keeps being hooked up on the most anti consumer monetization scams.
And even their customers get a little uppity sometimes theres no lasting effect, people forget controversies or arent even aware of them at a rate that it feels like their actually mentally disabled.
I'm a boomergay now, so it doesn't matter. Even if there's only one or two good games a year, I only play that much so there's no dip in quality for me. Limited demands sate a limited appetite.
Beyond that, I really only miss the weird high-end experimental crap from the PS1/PS2 eras. You will get some lovingly weird stuff from indie devs, but it's not quite the same as having a proper AA- or AAA-budget behind it. I get that it's too financially risky for major studios to do that sort of thing nowadays. Still feels bad.
>a proper AA- or AAA-budget behind it.
both of these budgets are recent. 5th gen games did not have big teams of people working on them
In PS2 a single studio could made five games of different genres and a trilogy in the entire lifespan of ps2.
In PS5 the same studio only release one game every 5 years with aggresive in-app purchases
stop talking about video games this is supposed to be an avgn thread
the difference is:
all the old dev teams are dead or making bad games/all old devs are retired or turned corporate and only care about money.
most games that come out today are bad and only a handful are good.
there used to be big releases that were actually worth playing every year instead of the 0 good AAA games released the last 15 or so years.
you have to have your eyes scanning all over the different genres to be able to sort the wheat from the chaff.
you have to know the history and reputation of every game company so you don't get burned by greedy scumbags hiding the dogshit quality of their game behind cherry picked trailer scenes and front loaded garbage.
unironically, keeping track of all the vidya lore across the genres is like having a masters degree in a particular part of history.
>do you feel like games used to be better in the past?
I feel as though games are better than ever.
> Are games really that much worse now?
I will concede that the AAA titles or really anything going for 50+ USD is dogshit. I mean to say the real games, made by small teams who give a frick.
this
the games that "they" want you to buy and talk about and get paid DLC and merchandise for are DOGSHIT.
It's almost at the point where anything over $40 is just immediately disregarded out of sheer pattern recognition. Elden Ring is the only game i've bought full price for a while now and even that gave me some serious issues on launch
>Elden Ring is the only game i've bought full price...
of for sure there are outliers, but for sure the best way to have fun with vidya is to chase down your niche vidya interests through indie developers. I wouldn't recommend xenonauts 2 to anyone other then people who share my particular flavor of autism but goddamn that game scratches an itch down to the bone for my tbs needs. Shit, the more reluctant you are to shar your favorite game then chances are the game speaks to you personally, rather than generally.
the objectively are, that's why any survey looking at what games people are playing will find it's mostly 10+ year old games. from the time before lootboxes and season passes and shit.
every so often im reminded that the userbase of Ganker is so young that they consider games from the early 2010s to be "old games"
at some point you have to accept that the games you played on ps3 and Xbox 360 are old now.
it's just weird remembering Ganker complaining about the 7th gen and then Ganker in the 2020s calling it "the good ol days" and then teenagers call you a zoomer if you disagree
They released classic game collections on PS2 in 2004/2005. They consisted of games from 1987-1993. Mortal Kombat was a classic game. It was released in 1992. 1992 + 13 = 2005. 2024 - 13 = 2011. Skyrim and Dark Souls were released in 2011. Those games are old.
>They released classic game collections on PS2 in 2004/2005. They consisted of games from 1987-1993
Way older, see the Atari Anthology for the PS2, or the PS2 Space Invader release by Taito try 1978 -1993
Games from 87'-93' and i think even some a few from 94' and may be 95' were included in a classic games collection. People just can't get over it. Fricking Temple Run was released in 2011. That's like an arcade game from 1992. Angry Birds was 2009. So it's equivalent to an arcade game from 1990 in 2005. Online flash games are like even older arcade games, like what you're mentioning. Deus Ex is same age as Donkey Kong (1981) was in 2005. Runescape is equivalent to a game released in 1979, from a 2005 perspective. World of Warcraft is almost 20 years old (November 2004). 2004 - 20 = 1984.
The point is that for some reason people refuse to accept & understand that these games are old.
Great recession killed games and turned it into a bland talent less cash grab that a lot fo people don;t enjoy anymore so they buy, play and talk about old stuff instead.
They act like angry old men yelling at the sky. b***hing about games now isn't a problem, but my point is they act like games from almost 15 years ago aren't old.
well, they are old, the ps1 was considered old in 2010 and we're just about as far apart from the ps3 right now. i guess people feel the time less because technology hasn't improved as dramatically, but take a game like Cyberpunk and compare it to something like Skyrim and you'll see the improvements
>NES
>some good early 2D games, nogged by next gen
>SNES
>peak of 2D games and JRPGs
>PSX/N64 era
>peak of experimentation with 3D
>PS2
>peak of mid budget games made for fun
>PS3/360
>peak of AAA dudebro shooters
>PS4
>peak of ultra-high budget open world games
>PS5/Switch
>peak of live service shit
You forgot to add the shitbox series ass at the end.
shitbox is the same except it's absent until the PS2 era and just copies everyone around them.
The Xbox 360 is the only relevant Xbox console. Game Pass is somewhat significant but only because Sony was forced to copy them. But that's part of a greater trend of gaming being cheaper in general, which is more represented by lice service games like Genshin and Fortnite.
it really do be like that
there was a sweet spot, let's say generations 4, 5 and 6, when they were incredibly good. Gens before and after have been shitty.
talent dilution killed vidya.
once all the opportunists move on to ai for easy money its going to get better.
The 90s were a strong period economically because the West was outsourcing everything to China while actively looting Eastern Europe. The graph turns badly with the 2008 economic collapse which was caused by Neocons and Neoliberals fricking up everything good of the previous period.
>2008 economic collapse
This was almost entirely just caused by the overleveraged banks invested in the housing market. The banks got bailed out and just took extremely minor losses. Meanwhile, everyone's 401k and house equity took massive hits. The US government, regardless of what color tie they wear, didn't give a shit about the people in those bailouts and subsquent nothingburger restructurings. It's why Occupy Wallstreet happened later, and why there was an extremely heavyhanded crackdown on that movement.
It was also worse than that. Most stocks were junk and they "fixed" the problem by creating new bubbles.
>do you feel like games used to be better in the past?
No. Some old games were good, but plenty of old games sucked ass. Most of them did, in fact.
>a cute girl will never make a 2-hour video about how much you suck and convince the entire Internet to hate you
thank god
context?
Her video was more sympathetic than Folding Ideas though
ive never seen this person. What is this vide
I am gay now.
Games back in the day were made by an small group of extremely passionate individuals, which made so the games were extremely polished and made with a lot of care, nowadays every big game is made by hundreds of developers on all kinds of positions, this makes so everything extremely slows down to a crawl, which added to the fact that games aren't simple anymore, makes so any modern game takes like 10 years to develop to end up being released nonworking or so bugged that it cannot even be played from start to finish.
People make fun of bethesda games being bugged, but this past 5 years there's been released games that couldn't even be played whatsoever or ran so poorly that couldn't even reach 20 full frames per second at 1080p, meanwhile starfield was bugged but was actually playable (albeit a shit game)
Dumbass ESL phoneposter. Most old games were still corporate slop that was shat out to capitalize on a licensed movie or comic character, or just otherwise moronic shit to make a quick buck.
>ESL phoneposter
English is my third language, and I posted this on my computer that's most probably more powerful than yours.
WHERE DID HE HAIR GO?
WHERE DID THE HAIR GO?!
Games right now are great, literally just stop playing western AAA slop
Publishers and business men seem way more intrusive in the creative process now more than ever. There's more talent in the industry now more than ever, but what are you supposed to do when you're told to just copy fortnite and destiny by every corporate wienersucker?
MMOs were definitely more hands on in the past that didn't become mobile phone game tier. Everquest 1, even Everquest 2, and of course vanilla WoW.
e-celeb thread?
>all three of the animals are still being co-parented
is this the guy who had a big meltdown when somebody told him debates were moronic and he started ranting about the founding fathers and crying
that was probably destiny, who is a cuck and also had his woman leave him for some swedish twink homosexual that likes to wear dresses
yes! that was him I remember his chins
>debates were moronic
Based.
Debates are literally dumb as a thing, unless it's between two very intelligent people, who have no real stake in the matter at hand.
Most people are just going to opt for what ever benefits them personally, and then selectively interpret facts or lie accordingly. Most people don't care what's true, and it's wrong to expect them to.
"Debate bros" are mongs who saw too much Star Trek TNG when they were kids, and think that's the real world.
i still don't understand how people find it entertaining to watch two morons just argue with each other over politics or whatever
It's about seeing "your guy" get some hits in, which is why it's moronic. No one is getting won over to the other side, thanks to debates.
It's a bloodsport. Andy Warski is a moron, and he understood that.
HIYAH
Speaking of chuds... where are the electrons. Where did they go? Where are the electrons, woman's blouse wearing Nryano?
Can't believe he did that with Vinny in the room. Also, big Ryan fan btw.
Videogames are better than ever
>You can't enjoy games as an adult anymore waaaaah!
Frick off you moronic doomers. The pre-shutdown party of Kid Icarus Uprising multiplayer was the most fun i've had with video games in a decade despite never having any grounds for nostalgia.
Games ARE shit today, or the majority of them, at least.
Latest ten games you played?
wow he looks much better bald
chadembracebros...
he looks like the protagonist from manhunt, even got the crazy murderous stare
there are plenty of good games if you look hard enough. growing + the internet just made the shit much easier to smell. it's not like having a deluge of low effort trend chasing shit and performative bullshit is a new thing.
old games feel better because memory washes away the big parts and nostalgia gives you comfyness because as animals we hate change
i will say this
the unremarkable games of the past look like masterpieces compared to the aaa sewer sludge that gets released today
here come the folding ideas watchers
I watched some of that video and that guy is really full of himself. I don't think he has enough humility to understand James's body of work.
I'm genuinely asking you to finish the video based on that comment alone, please.
I skipped around because I already watched a nearly two hour video about James Rolfe from someone else. From what I could tell. his wider point is that while James is incompetent and egotistical, it's unfair to psychoanalyze James Rolfe as he himself isn't exactly the filmmaker he wanted to be either, and the level of micro-scrutiny Truthgays apply to every action James takes is ridiculous.
His perspective is empathetic, but it's the critiques themselves about his body of work that tell me he doesn't get it. The idea that AVGN has always been at the same stagnant level of quality and it's just YouTube itself that's changed is revealing of his biases. He talks about how James is more of a "backyard filmmaker" than an "indie filmmaker" that he portrays himself as, but I think people constantly misunderstand what that conflation means to James.
"Really full of himself" is an exaggeration but I think the guy is too essaybrained to understand the appeal of James and his work.
the final salient point he makes, without directly saying it, is that he's the same as james, and it all in some way applies to himself
I feel like the attempts to create self-deprecating parallels between himself and james are kind of patronizing and shallow. Like, he spends and hour and a half calling James a fraud and an egotist and then says "but what if I'm also a bad filmmaker!"
But he never really considered himself a filmmaker the way James does, which is something he spends a lot of time talking about in the video. James doesn't ever call himself a youtuber, but Olsen very much identifies that way, so less of a damning accusation.
It also feels really, really meanspirited and patronizing in the way it talks about James too, like he's a big moron. Somebody on twitter said it was like "doing noble savage shit but for a 40 year old obsessed with his childhood."
Also I don't care if he meant it that way, the ending with the bad AVGN skit was super cringe. He couldn't put aside his essay brain to stop talking about the game in a certain way that comes off as too "over intellectualized." The "meta" thing, even if it was mocking James, was really stupid and hacky too.
>I feel like the attempts to create self-deprecating parallels between himself and james are kind of patronizing and shallow. Like, he spends and hour and a half calling James a fraud and an egotist and then says "but what if I'm also a bad filmmaker!"
Unironically way more full of himself than James Rolfe lol
the part that's kind of damning about james is the story from film school about him hijacking the class, which does indeed make james look like a dickhead
The story about james getting suspended felt way too much like olson being accusatory though.
>he didn't even show any accountability for his actions!
I read his book and James did very obviously seem stupid and ashamed, and if I recall correctly was actually quite sympathetic and remorseful towards the dean whereas Folding Ideas made it seem like he said the staff were evilly conspiring against him
can you elaborate on what "noble savage shit" means in this context, it's lost on me
So the concept of the "Noble Savage" was the idea that whites would look at indians or africans and patronizingly praise them for being hardworking or childishly incorruptible despite being lesser. Like sort of a "look what these savages are able to do with their little underdeveloped brains"
So in this case it's looking at James and saying, "wow, look at what this incompetent fricking manchild moron accomplished despite being an artless fraud. At least the dipshit loves his kids." You're praising him, but in the same way looking down on him.
That's fine to use as a metaphor, but have you considered it's genuine? I mean with knowledge from outside this video you could assume folding-man is a leftoid that doesn't really care about or respect a family man, but maybe he just does anyway? James entertained millions, makes enough money to live and supports a family. That is genuinely admirable even if he is a literal shortbus moron.
That's the thing. The "noble savage" sentiment IS real. It's not mocking, it's a real form of respect, but from a patronizing angle. It's bad because the person holding that opinion is unable to put their own biases and station aside when looking at someone else's accomplishments.
what's the fricking problem then? james IS a simpleton. You cannot deny that fact.
>what's the fricking problem then?
we don't know
people constantly invent new things to get mad about every day
I liked the video, and it felt like it came from a sincere place, and to me anything else is projecting your own shit
>really meanspirited and patronizing in the way it talks about James too, like he's a big moron
To be fair, you think that of all left-wing ecelebs because you can't handle your opinions being critiqued constructively from another avid fan. Too used to feeling prideful of yourself
don't you project on me I'm no fricking /misc/tard.
I don't think he's critiquing constructively at all; I think the movie was more of a soft-callout post. James didn't do anything wrong but just "gives the ick" and so can call him a fraud as long as you intellectualize it. Olsen was also one of the people who got really up his own ass about James not wanting to see Lady Ghostbusters too
Just a common pattern I see, all of you form parasocial relationships with apolitical ecelebs since you view them as being right-leaning for not espousing left-wing politics. Whenever your perceived enemies critique them, you feel personally attacked because you see that eceleb as an personal extension of yourself. You have an attachment to James not for his gaming videos, but because he called a 2014 so-called "SJW" movie shit.
You call it patronizing or intellectualizing in an attempt to dismiss a lengthy good faith critique as a bad faith one done by the radical left.
I'm a communist you dipshit don't try to hide being an butthole behind politics. This is the problem with breadtuber libs: they think that their politics somehow absolves them of being dickheads.
It's not a "bad faith hit piece by the radical left" it's a bad faith hitpiece by a guy who is egotist moron.
Olsen got kicked off of SA for being too unfunny. He got in trouble in Canada for trying to do an epic troll by posting hebe porn on cripplechan to prove they had cp. His Crypto video is really good but the guy is just personally obnoxious and the breadtubers are learning that callout post videos bring in $$$$$
>He got in trouble in Canada for trying to do an epic troll by posting hebe porn on cripplechan to prove they had cp.
wait what? this guy downloaded and posted actual cheese? I feel like more people should know about this
>Olsen got kicked off of SA for being too unfunny
Tell me more, I stopped browsing after fragmaster left
You don't even know who you're mad at. James's haters are overwhelmingly right wing and accuse him of being a cuck partly because a black guy kisses a white girl in the AVGN movie. They also hate his wife partly because she called Cinemassacre a "caucasian sausage fest". You should know what the frick you're talking about before you start projecting to defend Folding Ideas.
I'm a big leftie and I thought the video was trite shit. I usually like Olson but as that other anon said, this video was just weirdly patronizing. Yeah I think much of the criticism levied at Rolfe by truthers is psychotic, and I also don't like AVGN. But making a whole video about how this guy who is over-hated is also some paragon of mediocrity (but it's ok because I'm damning myself too!) is just so weird and underhanded. If it was a straight up critique of him as a filmmaker it would be fine, but it goes into a lot of really mean personal stuff. Just be a normal person and watch Amadeus like the rest of us.
But James actually is a fricking moron. Why is it bad to be patronizing?
there's good morons like james and uli and bad morons like dsp and chris chan
Making a video calling someone a moron is one thing. Making a video saying someone is an idiot but deserves respect is also fine. Making a video calling someone so moronic that they ought not to be mocked but pitied like a lame dog while acting like this makes you morally superior to the first video is just incredibly obnoxious. It's making a drama video but pretending it's somehow above that, that it's art.
You're still operating on the level of "gotta own the libtard". Personally I don't care about that. All libtards are always wrong on most things and owning them is irrelevant. That's just a fact. James IS mentally challenged, it impairs the quality of his videos but he is a good man for trying to provide for his family.
I feel like you're not really responding to my posts. I'm not trying to "own the libtards" (I just said I'm a big leftie), and I'm also not shitting on James. I'm also not saying that I like AVGN (I don't). I'm saying why I didn't like the video.
>Calling people incel manchildren is constructive critique
>I expected the guy who covers retro games to start covering things other than retro games
>Don't be nostalgic about things that happened in the past, the past sucked
I mean, It's a pretty standard "Critique" from the left, I really didn't catch a single thing that was constructive. I guess you could argue the stand thing where he did a whole weird bit about a stand was attempting to be constructive, but it comes from a place of ignorance. All kinds of reasons are perfectly plausible for not having the specific bolt, and leaving it like that.
Telling someone "You're not a Film maker 🙁 Don't say you think of yourself as a film maker!" Isn't really constructive, it's also excludes the vast majority of people who make films if you decide to not include James, so it isn't even correct.
It did make me laugh when it panned to a diorama of the AVGN set, I think he gets a point for that
one of the comments on the video said
>"Do you think a depressed person could make this?" *pans to reveal 1/12 scale diorama of James Rolfe's nerd room*
He's literally no different from the so called truthers, except his intention to hurt is hidden under several layers of condescension.
finally somebody takes my bait
Tech got better but sentiments got worse. The people who make games nowadays are passionless homosexuals. We could have a slew of amazing games announced tomorrow but all of the genuine talent is locked up in big gay corpos that want to propagandize everything instead of making good games.
On the other hand the bar to entry is lower than fricking ever for self produced games, with multiple platforms that handle distribution and payment for you.
And its always going to be a thing with the entertainment industry. Its boom and bust. We're just at the end of a cycle where budgets are impossibly big, and people are becoming less interested in them, and it doesn't make too many high profile flops before you're in trouble, because those israeli accounting tricks are there to make it look like you're losing money when you aren't. When you actually lose money, then its not a israeli accounting trick, its just losing money.
And eventually no one will want to spend money on these scams, and you'll see smaller projects by smaller teams who give a shit making games that can make a return by selling thousands of copies.
Like as AAA budgets and it becomes clear why companies are moving away from console exclusives. A big budget AAA sony game will need to sell a copy to every person who owns the hardware twice before it makes any money back, and your fricking games can't be loss leaders if your console is also a loss leader. And if you have to market and sell your game to literally the entire customer base, then you're going to be forced to produce the most brain dead, lowest common denominator garbage that desperately tries to include everyone. It HAS to be as inclusive as possible because you can't afford to leave any stone unturned in the chase of those consumer bux.
I'm kind of really hoping that the current AAA publishers/developers (with some exceptions) go breasts up and entirely new companies take their place and we have another golden age with actual competition in the market instead of everything being a fricking movie game with batman controls
Tbtbh I thought by now games like Star Citizen but actually functional and complete would have been the norm. It seriously looked like games were nothing but up since the early 2000s. Indie games are getting better and better but it's like we lost technological progress the AAA industry made because they want to be gay. Now small teams who have nowhere near the capabilities of AAA companies have to pick up the slack. The wasted talent pisses me off when I start thinking about it. All these gay giga-corporation have their grip on tons of licenses and teams and they do nothing but misuse them.
I thought we'd have flying cars by the year 2000.
We all have our promises of the future smashed on the fricking ground before our eyes, and the things that change are the things you never expected.
Crowdfunding has also been a double edged sword, when it was first kicking off I was excited because you could develop games for a specific niche audience who could fun the thing itself, never expecting the tendency it would create towards dripfeeding some suckers until you vanish into thin air. Or produce some piece of shit that fulfills all legal check box to avoid being forced to remunerate anyone or be sued for fraud.
As much harm as publishers and parent companies do to the end product, they also keep things like that in check. In theory anyway.
Other than "MUH HECKIN FATPHOBIA YOU WANT TO FRICK THE MORBIDLY OBESE MAN" that video was great.
I don't agree and defending the fatboys era at all and dismissing mike as "an edgy dickhead" was moronic
Motherfricker Mike is an edgy moron though. And I don't think he dismissed him at all.
James unironically thinks that random parody "films" he shot as a kid are the same as viral money making youtube videos or his actual feature films. My middle school friend made some of those movies. Awful no-budget horror films on a shit camera. To think that is on a similar level to AVGN is an insane lack of self-awareness.
they mean as much, if not more, to him though. That's the thing about James. They are his real passion. However shitted together they are, they're movies. AVGN is just skits his production house makes. AVGN isn't the company, Cinemassacre is.
>do you feel like games used to be better in the past? Are games really that much worse now?
The one egregious thing: is that all Indie devs more or less rip off established japanese IPs from earlier times. So that's a clear cut indication that yes, games were better and now indie folk are trying hard to ape or relive that.
Castle my butthole
You hear that?
That's the sound of a glitch.
YOUR glitch.
Enjoy it.
No. As in, the games from back then were good for their time but are great now with how low standards have gotten.
Witcher 3 is 9 years old and nothing has come close to it.
Ever notice that the people who b***h about new games being bad always use shit games like Halo, CoD and ass creed as examples of good old games? All they play is fricking tripple A, normalfsg garbage and then cry that they are unable to break up with their has-been studios.
Yes
When I saw this video thumbnail I was genuinely afraid it was going to be a seething rant about how chuddy AVGN didn't watch ghostbusters 2016
>bald nerd
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?
I don't feel like that, I know it's true because I've experienced it myself by going back and playing lots of SNES/Genesis games that I never had growing up, and enjoying them a lot more than modern AAA slop.
as someone who legit played quite a few old consoles entire library most games on average are about the same quality as they have always been its just their are way more people making games now and since the vast majority of games are mediocre to bad that's what we tend to see. I feel people ignore the fact that most old video games are garbage hell some were released straight up unfinished or literally unplayable. yes the AAA market is garbage but to a certain extent that's always been true just.
recency bias is strong, people tend to forget the shit games and the overused trends. nowdays if we got a brown shooter with a gruff dude in buzzcut we wouldn't say much even tho it was the equivalent of magenta Black folk with the killmonger's hairdo
Hey I hear you guys like the channel I made. And the content for it that I mostly wrote and the characters and intro cards that I'm 100% responsible for. I didn't really want to be on Camera, but when James was out making his movie that he didn't want me to involve me in because he didn't want to share the profits from it I started to put my self in front of the camera to keep the channel going. Sorry if I was a little awkward. I never really wanted to be the face of the channel in the first place.
Mike is a shithead but I do think he was done a little wrong. He seems to be pretty miserable now. Does he even still stream?
Bootsy is the one I feel the worst for though. By all accounts he got royally fricked and walked because he wasn't getting paid at all. I don't know if it was Mike or James or who but that was fricked up.
>He seems to be pretty miserable now. Does he even still stream?
That's what he likes to do. And he does it very often. He changes it up all the time. Which kinda sucks because he's had some genius ideas for streaming that he doesn't stick with for long to keep things fresh. He's very anti burnout.
>I invented the AVGN
OH IT SHOWS, MIKE, IT SHOWS!
>when James was out making his movie that he didn't want me to involve me in because he didn't want to share the profits from it
why do truthgays make up shit like this?
Because they’re addicted to online drama and for some reason decided to latch onto James of all people even though he’s boring and the dirt pretty much begins and ends with his videos suck now.
I didn't make shit up. Mike had no involment with making the movie. No involvement with the script. And the guy that was helping James probably got him on anti depressants while making the movie. Finn is now a professional therapist. And no I don't mean he wrote the fricking prescription.
Mike had a cameo and drew the art in the opening. His involvement was minimal, but it wasn’t nothing. It’s more likely he just didn’t want to do a lot in the movie, especially since while James was filming it he made Minecraft With Gadget which is unironically better remembered.
Mike was only there because he was asked to show up to make an appearance. He didn't want to be there. Mike is a script writer / character actor and that garbage script had zero involvement from Mike.
>he didn't want to involvement in because he didn't want to share the profits from it
This is complete conjecture. Mike said publicly that he doesn't see himself as an actor
You don't have to be an actor in a movie to make money from it. Mike could have bank rolled the movie. He didn't. Mike could have had a lot of involvement making the movie. He had none or almost none if you want to take into account the one drawing and cameo appearance.
What causes people to make up shit like this? Like what the frick is the point?
Prove it wrong if you feel that way. I didn't make shit up. In fact if you can prove me wrong that Mike does make money from the AVGN movie I'd love to see it. Since I'd like to stop spreading misinformation if that's factually the case. I don't think it is misinformation. I believe I'm correct.
How about you take your meds instead?
I'm genuine. If you can prove he makes money from the movie I'd love to see it.
Prove that i'm not having sex with your mother.
See
They want James (or anyone, but especially James for some reason) to be the next Chris-chan which isn’t going to happen. For whatever faults he has, James is not and has never been interested in online drama. So they have to either blow what little dirt on him exists out of proportion and treat ending a stream at 5:40 like a war crime or just plain make shit up like him being a cuck.
Underdeveloped, effeminate brains have an addiction to mindless celebrity gossip and drama, and will actively fabricate gossip and drama in the absence of it.
Dedicated servers are an area which things are objectively worse.
Dedicated servers allowed you to establish your own ecosystems where you/the hosts dictated the mood they wanted. WAAC tourneygay? Fine. Chill and banter on the same map over and over? Fine. Silly hijinks and dumb mutation BS? Fine. Forcing you into matchmaking removes that, and also means when they pull the plug on a game it's dead. You also have a harder time telling if there are people active.
In theory (in practice devs would cave) you can have a server where you can't say a single curse word and another where when one team wins it plays "homie homie homie homie homie I'm 200% homie" and it's your choice if you wanna be there or not.
yes, yes.
things were about giving fans fun recreational activities back then, not coming up with the most efficient revenue extraction operations.
Games are way fricking better now from a gameplay perspective.
From an art direction and story perspective it really depends on the color tint of your glasses. "Original" classics can and are usurped by derivations.
>Games are way fricking better now from a gameplay perspective.
LMAO...
LMFAO even.
damn james is packing?? wtf
Not really, but it is easier to cherrypick an above-average game from the past which can be nice.
Tried to play my old games and most of them are insufferable shitshow. Only few worth my time as an adult.
Graphics wise games are better now. Even a barebones Unity game looks pretty good now.
Its a mixed bag for big budget games. AAA games are ass. Any game that has to hire a consultant to make sure it complies with whatever the SJWs demand will be a bad game no matter what. Tell me a single game that has DEI involvement in it that has been a good game.
Kickstarter games have been surprisingly good.
The great thing about games from yesteryear was that you had fun short games that didn't overstay its welcome. How would you feel about playing Aladdin for Snes in modern times and they add 15 levels to pad out the length. It would be a total nightmare. The game already overstays its welcome by the time you go into Genie's realm. But because its a short sweet package, it becomes a memorable and fun game.
AAA and AA games need to stop making GAAS because that shit is awful. Its the worst thing in the industry right now. Even the DLC packs of CoD and BF aren't as bad as this shit. Even paying for internet for consoles isn't as bad as GAAS.
depends, i think emulation has made some games better (dolphin, rpcs3 etc). i think modern games can be really good but its rare, theres a hat in time, edf 4.1, and maybe even banjo kazooie nuts and bolts. all unity games are somewhat disappointing because of the matte colors. all in all, oldies that are still fun for me nowadays may be as rare as modern games
I think part of it is nostalgia, but there is a lot of moronic shit in modern games with greedy publishers
>do you feel like games used to be better in the past?
Not Feel they were anaons date it differntly 2012,2014,2015 but roughly a decade ago all innovation ceased, no more light guns, dance mats, fishing reels, steering wheels pedals, toys to life etc. Just shitty meh VR and remakes, endless undending franchises, reboots and infinitely small graphical enhancements compared to the massive leaps forward in audio and video from 1980-2014 roughly the lifespan of video as it was when it was good). Insteal of new genres, there were less, stuff like RTS died and instead we got death of solo campaigns, online only, over monetization, registration, digital only, chat and speech censorship, micro transactions,first buyer dlc codes, you don't own the game, skins, server shutdowns, loot boxes, stale gameplay and so many sequels no one cares anymore. Anyone who gives a shit about games plays and uses stuff made before 2014 for old PC, PS1,PS2, 360 etc. The whole buzz is around that. Modern gaming is an empty room with a few zoomers playing fortnight, some asians and pedos fapping to phones and a mass of identity politics, race baiting and no talent innovation, passion or originality.
>instead we got death of solo campaigns
What the frick are you talking about?
we got death of solo campaigns
>What the frick are you talking about?
Black ops three release on the 360 was multiplayer only and completely in line with cancer like fortnite (a milestone in the death of gaming as you new it). Gaming was primarily a solo hobby for most of its life spam
>cawadooty
god i miss old Ganker
Do you now? You were here for the CP back then were you? Because this site had a lot of CP? You do know that? Its while most anons used 711 chan instead you fricking homosexual
>most anons used 711 chan instead you fricking homosexual
Which knowyourmeme page told you this?
>My father was a relentlessly self-improving YouTuber from New Jersey with low grade autism and a penchant for DIY
>My mother was a cinematographer named April with fetish for diversity and fetuses.
>My father would cuckold, he would drink.
>He would make outrageous claims like he invented indie filmmaking.
>Sometimes he would accuse comedy routines pertaining to matters of transgenderism as being "wrong then" and "wrong now."
>The sort of spinelessness that the pussywhipped possess and the nerdy lament.
>My father was a seething Ganker user whose balls I swam in for the entirety of my existence, much like every other brother and sister I ever had
Get cummed into a fleshlight and die already.
Ganker is terrified of fatherhood.
Millennial men all are all irrationally afraid of responsibility
Millennial woman all are irrationally afraid of dying during pregnancy
I'm not at all
What I am afraid of is the wife and mother being able to ruin it all on one fricking twinge of emotion
Old games have better action per minute, less input lag, cleaner UI, cleaner structure, no dailies, and they don't clutter the screen by spamming seizure-inducing effects.
Old games also have the advantage of being static, familiar, well documented, and have a permanent meta, which makes them a better investment to sink hours into, since you're not at the mercy of the devs/company fricking things up.
One thing old games don't have is the FOMO effect which attracts the attention of casuals and is good for socialization.
No updates. No connection necessary. Physical media. No buying DLC to get the game on the disk to work fully. N o microtransactions. No having to play it online with people you don;t want to know. No having your ight to play it for telling the people you don't want to play it with to frick off. No giving anyone your credit card or registering. No forced insert LGBT or race shit
>bro just play INDIE games
>Indie could never produce the next DMC/Ninja Gaiden/MGR because it's 3D action
I mean, "Just play Indie" works if you only like SNES-era games and Metroidvanias.
Besides that, the whole modern landscape is shit save for a few series
No one but you said "just play indie".
They're still making DMC games anyway. You'll probably see 6 soon.
give some time for those to be nostalgic, right now we're at the ps1. but you think indies are all pixelshit so you probably never actually looked into them
90% of the games I play these days are porn games so I wouldn't know.
I think that AAA market was way more better in the past than today and developers had more freedom and creativity to create good games.
Today AAA is constantly regurgitating soulless and overpriced slope with some weird and forced ESG advertisement that you legit can't get away from.
Sometimes there does come out something worthwhile, but it's very fricking rare.
Try playing Glyde the Dragon. The combat in the game feels excellent. I wish the bosses relied less on shielding, though. I can't figure out how to break all those damned shields.
I would say yes
For every good game like Stellar Blade we get 10 that are souless cash grab DLC over the shoulder movie game
Craawling my skiiin!
The majority of games since the Atari have been dog shit. There is only a handful each generation that are actually decent. Like the first gaming crash the current market is being oversaturated, making it look worse when it's really the same.
It's more that i'm playing the same game for the past 30 years. There's been no evolution, just revolution after revolution trying to tell me it's different whembit's clearly not
I have played a the vast majority of games on classic consoles do to my parents owning a rental store and grandma sending me games from oversea's let me tell you overall quality has not changed much the vast majority was garbage when I was a kid the vast majority are still garbage honestly I have played games that were barely functioning or hell straight up intentionally unbeatable when i was a kid. The issue is nowadays every flop and disaster is seen by millions when you was a kid and a game was a disaster you never really heard of it unless it was a game everyone wanted that turned out to be shit nowadays a game like Gollum or king kong licensed trash most would never play gain a reputation when back in the day most would ignore it outside the poor kids who never bought a licensed game before and the clueless parents who got it for their kid as a gift because their kid really liked the movie. If your only major complaint about a game is its woke I am going to be honest the game just ain't that bad in the grand scheme of things and if you think a game is going to be woke you need to just move on to something you enjoy like a sane person instead of giving it free publicity but lets be real most people here are not exactly mentally sound.
Yes they are worse. And uglier. Current generation has zero standards.
kek
Dont laugh Im right
Yes
Every game that used to exist still exist(as long as it was worth playing), in addition to every new game since then.
Therefore now is inherently the best time for games.
I genuinely miss the peak soulfull era of AVGN like you wouldn't fricking believe bros.
There still there.
I have always found games to be a huge worthless waste of time. But sadly they're the only thing I can do.
THey are so much better. Just look at Ubisoft games. Also, gacha is so fricking big right now and so much better than what we had back then. I love always online and then the company shutting it down.
Gaming
Has
Never
Been
Better
Imagine using gachas as a representation of what good games are. This generation is fried.
Go back to your ps4 gramps
He was clearly being sarcastic, you moron.
Dont make fun of me it hurts my feelings
You're right, that was uncalled for. I'm sorry.
Good games still release these days but they're mostly indie games. The passion in AAA and even most AA games has died. Older AAA games you could feel how much the devs GAVE A FRICK about the game but these days it feels like these AAA games are made by somebody with a gun to their head.
the downhill started in the ps3/360 era
but even then the games developed in that era humiliate the ones developed thesedays
No. However, something that disappeared around the late 00's/early teens was "mid grade" games. In the PS2 era there were a million games with modest budgets that were often excellent, or at least had an intriguing concept. They were usually competently made, not particularly graphically impressive but not terrible either.
There's been a shift away from that over the years, to where now the market is dominated by either gigantor AAAAA games with the budget of a small nation and realistically modeled nose hairs, or Indie games with pixel art made by twelve guys in Lithuania. Games that fall between those two extremes certainly exist, but they no longer get the same level or attention. You're either Balder's Gate or Dave the Diver, COD or Hotline Miami. Losing those mid grade games has meant a decrease in the diversity of gameplay and art style, which is unfortunate.
Oh, uh, also there's a lot of terrible writers who are only just now getting past the Whedonesque dialogue of 2009.
Yes and yes
We hate AVGN now? Why?
I don't, I think some people don't like the podcast-e stuff, but that isn't quite to the level of hate.
Youtubers only want your watch time to get money they don't provide any value to you unless you're learning something so stop licking their boots they're not your friends.
I think gaming creativity peaked between the late 90s and early 2000s.
Problem is everyone now make big ass open world realistic trash
And if they don't they flop
much better now!! and if you disagree you are GAY
There are still plenty of good games being made but ones of the same name of past ones are by and large garbage compared to what they used to be.
And even a lot of the ones that are decent are fricked by the shitty practices the big guys are constantly doing.
Despite knowing 12 languages and having read 5 figures of books - including some dictionaries - in said languages I lack words to describe how utterly tired I am of MTX, including DLC.
Except to say that it needs to be made illegal since almost none of them wish to control themselves.
The only real difference is that developing AAA games is a such a huge gamble right now.
On top of that, video games were being made by people who had experience making games: not just video games.
I like this video by the line go up guy
I don't. i tried to watch him but he came off too pretentious for me
gaming peaked around the 2000s in both concepts and gameplay
Yes, look at elden shit dlc