>dude if I wanted to read I'd just open a book
Does anyone that says this moronic shit even read books for fun? Or is it just a stupid "Gotcha!"
>dude if I wanted to read I'd just open a book
>dude if I wanted to read I'd just open a book
Does anyone that says this moronic shit even read books for fun? Or is it just a stupid "Gotcha!"
The statement implies they don't want to read, so I presume no
No, and they don't play RPGs either.
If you read books for fun, you don't want to read the shit they shovel into RPGs.
This.
Also based and redpilled.
Stupidest comment in thread so far.
>RPG and especially JRPG stories are laughably bad in almost all cases. If you disagree you should for real read some fantasy books.
Fairly true, however this is not a fair comparison. Videogame stories and novels are different mediums and are good for different types of stories similar to the way that movies and TV shows aren't good for the same things.
Suppose you're telling the story of a dungeon crawl in a novel. You might have two party members argue over which way to go, and then you'll describe the thought process of the protagonist who makes the decision. In the novel, you'll use that situational conflict as an opportunity to characterize and develop greater conflicts between characters that will be resolved later. Because stories are all about written conflicts. Videogames aren't.
In a videogame, you certainly wouldn't have to describe the protagonist thought process. The player just makes the decision. And instead of one fork in the dungeon as a major plot point, dungeons are full of forks with frequent choices and consequences. Maybe you could have the party members argue, or maybe just make suggestions to help the player. Either way, you don't need to develop conflicts between characters because you don't need that kind of conflict and resolution in a videogame where the gameplay is full of conflict already. You can certainly try, but you risk it being superfluous and distracting since that's not the point.
It's pretty simple anon, PLAYING in games is fun, reading in games is not. You are intentionally taking away something that the player is looking forward to and replacing it with your garbage uninspired verbose, gay meaningless trash. And it shows, because you didn't even put in the effort to make an argument. Planescape torment is not a real videogame.
>You are intentionally taking away something that the player is looking forward to and replacing it with your garbage uninspired verbose, gay meaningless trash
But that's what I'm looking forward to, why else would I play RPGs?
IF I wanted to read I'd open a book. I don't.
Vidya writing is garbage, dialogue being the slime on the bottom.
Vidya writers can't write, if they could then they wouldn't be writing for vidya. And at this point there is no hope, it's just fans who grew up on shit writing doing the writing, a human centipede of creativity.
RPG and especially JRPG stories are laughably bad in almost all cases. If you disagree you should for real read some fantasy books.
I recommend going to goodreads and looking up the top 5 fantasy or scifi books for any year for a start. There's always lists like that for every genre each year, literary awards and competitions are real popular for some reason. It's a good way to find some good books.
For the love of God don't read Warhammer or star wars EU fiction, go for novels independent of any series instead they're much higher quality
>star wars EU fiction
What's wrong with Zelazny?
>If you disagree you should for real read some fantasy books.
I do read fantasy. Terry Pratchett is my favorite author. There is nothing inherently wrong with the writing in RPGs. Many make good use of the medium and convey traditional literary themes just as well as a novel could.
>If you disagree you should for real read some fantasy books.
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>RPG and especially JRPG stories are laughably bad in almost all cases
Shut the frick up you posturing homosexual, play more RPGs
i genuinely don't understand how someone can read something like malazan or old man's war and think it's somehow better than vidya writing. it's longer, i'll give you that, which gives it more room to tell a story. and no budget or technological constraints, leading to a larger, more grandiose scale. but better? yeah nah i don't see it. there is the rare sci-fi or fantasy book that is genuinely good and better than any vidya but it's damn rare. i say this as a huge fan of the genre btw. i've never not been reading some sci-fi or fantasy book for over 10 years
To be fair Malazan has strengths which are very exotic in a book and very common in vidya. You read it for cool lore and the sense of discovery, slowly unraveling the mythos of the four founding races and the old gods and their shenanigans, which are very video gamey qualities (Dark Souls).
Fairly impressive to pull that off in a book.
Malazan is trash and the author fundamentally didn't understand scale.
Lol, frick you’re an asshat. Enlighten us plebs who are clearly in need of guidance how it could be improved?
whoops, just read that you recommend standalone novels. yes i can agree those have a better chance of being higher quality
>genre fictiontard trying to talk shit
>Don't read Warhammer
Someone doesn't know about Fehervari.
>Does anyone that says this moronic shit even read books for fun?
No, it's mostly people with low attention spans that get triggered by any given dialogue box with more than two sentences.
I don't care if you're dumping text logs after text logs at me. USE A FRICKING READABLE FONT AND FONT SIZE.
Based and conveniencepilled.
>reading console players opinions
why bother?
only rpgs I play for story is KOTOR 2 and planescape. everything else I play for skillchecks and questing
Most of the people on this board have no idea what “good writing” is. They substitute the phrase for tropes they dislike and characters that personally annoy them.
it's not just this board, it's people who actually read as well. there's a reason why you go to college for that shit if you actually want to understand how writing is objectively judged.
sounds like a good use of money to me
>If you don’t love X mixed in with your Y when you want Y, you must not love X.
Just seems like a disingenuous state to appear superior, honestly. There are times where I want X, Y, and X+Y and those periods run concurrent, separate, and overlap.
I doubt the people that say that read books, it's just a thing that pseuds say as part of their regular posturing. you have to remember that the majority of the people you're talking to on Ganker are literal teenagers
No, they are completely incapable of imagining reading as an effortless pleasure rather than something they do with their faces screwed up in pain so they can get a D in summer school to graduate
People who say this usually don't read books, they consider if a chore that is forced upon people when in school, so they can't imagine that anyone has fun reading.
That being said: plenty of RPGs are unnecessarily wordy and would have benefited immensely from a competent editor.