>Get superboost in the third lap >just don't use it and carry it into the final lap to steal 1st place on Red Canyon >Do it again on White Land II
and that is why Stingray is still the best.
I crashed like 6 fire stingrays before i won that tournament, so i'll probably spend most of it repairing those, and anything i have left over will go to
I had an easier time with the Queen League compared to the Knight League. Managed to get the new decal for the Wild Goose on my first full run.
Honestly, I'd probably get this girl I like a couple of gifts.
Oh, and I'd either buy myself a DVD set of the ADV Neon Genesis Evangelion dub or purchase the entire Gamecube library.
>I had an easier time with the Queen League compared to the Knight League. Managed to get the new decal for the Wild Goose on my first full run.
same. literally if you can just practice red canyon a bit and survive whiteland, its a breeze
Same, not sure if its because I'm improving or because the courses are just filtering people more. I'm hoping Knight League cycles back into rotation soon, I want to try and get a win in it since I couldn't previously.
>Just tried stingray on 99 for the fun of it. >Got Mute City I because of course I did >got 1st
I am on fire today, Jesus Christ. Guys, in all seriousness, I think Fox might be the best car for learning how to race well with a ton of transferable skills.
>Got my first 99 win after less than 200 races total >Can consistently get top 10 in Knight and Mini >Frick up White Land I three times in a row so I've never finished a Queen yet
What the frick man
Stingray main here. General play is "get a lead, hold it while minimizing boosts." If you get a good funnel and end up in front, stay in there. If you don't, play in the pack—you have above average durability—and try to get as early a skyway as possible. If you're around the front but don't have a solid lead, manage your sparks and try to time your last skyway for the final lap. Stingray's high speed means you can hold onto your sky boost for a long time on some tracks, though it depends
You will lose a lot of GPs because Mute City I and II are both heavily biased against Stingray. I need to get to the skyway on the first half of the first lap if I want a chance at getting top 5, and I have not found a way to be consistent at doing that yet.
Falcon’s style is opportunism. It can sort of do all the other car’s tactics when the situation calls for it, which is quite powerful. But it requires very good fundamentals. If you’re struggling with Falcon I recommend going for wins with the other vehicles first.
Falcon’s style is opportunism. It can sort of do all the other car’s tactics when the situation calls for it, which is quite powerful. But it requires very good fundamentals. If you’re struggling with Falcon I recommend going for wins with the other vehicles first.
said, gauge the situation and you can be a walgreens knockoff of Stingray or Fox. Playing to get 1st with it is kind of hard since opportunities as good as to allow you to get 1st are rare but this is surprisingly solid enough in GPs.
Winning a GPs with 5ths across all maps as Falcon is not an unlikely outcome, any Falcon would tell you.
>all I have to do to win GP is survive >die to getting bumped into the barrier right before the White Land II jump
It’s still lethal, don’t underestimate it, and save boost just to make that jump safe if that’s what it takes. Don’t be a dumbass like me.
Was in this exact situation. 3/3/4/4, and all I had to do was place within 6 ranks of my rival, which is normally very easy since Falcon does fantastically on White Land II in a multiplayer situation.
>Falcon
Cut corners with your good grip, try to get at least one KO to get some boosts near the end, only use 1-2 boosts per lap to conserve meter >Stingray
No clue because I'm not a shitter, I guess just use good lines and maintain top speed
No, you will get Out-foxed.
Stingray only boosts on lap 1 and lap 4
The play is to conserve your meter as much as possible for the final lap while trying to time a skyway near the end of the race.
Use your top speed and much better cornering to compensate the fact you can't boost much. Abuse the shit out of people bumping you from behind to get back to top speed.
Saw it coming and it was going to happen eventually, but it sad that people are starting to drop off of the game now because of the growing frustrations of being unable to win. There will of course be those people who are just happy to place well, or have the patience to grind and grind for that win; but most don't have either trait and will just go play something else as they see the skill gap in 99 grow more and more over time. The rival system is a great idea to not make it feel like shit even if they do place poorly, but at some point a person is going to want to win instead of constantly filling a bar that gives no reward, and now that you're almost guaranteed to have some 99+ killer in any game it's going to be damn near impossible for anybody new to the series to score that win.
If the performance of this game does result in a new F-Zero game I do hope those devs have taken notes from 99 and come up with some way to have a solid matchmaking system. Cause if people think 99 is tough to win at, it's going to be hell for them once the franchise goes back to the 3rd dimension.
>Source?
The fact that lobbies fill a lot slower now and that going into modes like Pro Tracks has a 50/50 shot of even hitting the 99 player count. Then there's the many people online (and irl in my case) I've seen talk about how they stopped playing the game, these threads progressively getting slower and slower to hitting the bump limit, etc.
I'm not doomposting or claiming that the game is dead, I'm just thinking out loud about ways the decline in player count could possibly be slowed in a hypothetical new F-Zero game. If you can't see that 99 isn't as populated as it was the first 2 weeks though, you're either not paying attention or denying reality. The player count was always going to fall as time went on.
That's exactly what he said. No lifers bully every single GP and people leave and game slowly loses it's playerbase until every single game has a no lifer.
>had been playing primarily Goose since launch >recently swapped to Stingray to try and improve my play >mfw having to deal with red bumpers more often now
I really gotta study their patterns.
Not gonna lie, Red Canyon 1 fricking sucks. Only track where I tend to rank out no matter when I do the right shit. If I hit top 40, the rest of QL is easy as piss.
I recommended this to someone, so it was probably me. Every vehicle should boost there in my opinion. Regarding your video I can see you aren't drifting for correction, check my example. Could've prevented the wall hit easily. Also that blast turning shouldn't be required at those low speeds, just turn with drifting instead to conserve speed (only Stingray can do this).
Thanks anon, I will keep those tips in mind. I only started using Stingray yesterday so I am very appreciative of advice.
Well that was a ride, but I'm out of tickets. I've seen many here struggling and I want to see you guys win more, so ask me anything and I'll do my best to answer. I've gotten 1st in all GPs with all vehicles, so I should be able to answer almost anything. I'll also post a few videos of my time in Queen GP, sharing a few strategies and secrets.
Based Rick, I think I've seen you in several matches. Impressive scoring. Name yourself after Rick Wheeler or just a coincidence? Also, any tips for nailing all the boosts in Death Wind II without slamming into walls?
SNES F Zero sucks
Give me F Zero GX 99 and then I'll care
If you have NSO, you should give a try anon. A lot of people went into this expecting to dislike it but have enjoyed it.
>Queen GP >Get queued up with a bunch of sweaty S2-10s
Im never getting any more GP cups am I?
Keep trying anon, I got a GP win today with only one track I took 1st on, the rest were top 5 and a horrible top 30 for Mute City II. Sometimes even the sweaty pros choke or get a crash out at just the wrong moment.
Rick is just a nickname I've had. Haven't done a ton of Death Wind II yet but just like Death Wind I, spin before boosts as best you can to prevent being knocked away. Spin on first boost pad, use drift correction for the second one (do not let go of gas or you will slide out). Fully let off gas and drift turn into third one as best you can.
Here's a simple video all Stingray/Goose need to know, and still very useful for the others. Get bumps from other players as much as possible. Anytime you see a player slightly behind you, drift into them for a speed boost. Practice on the starting area and eventually it'll become second nature throughout the race. Goose/Stingray should always be wary of their current speed, and fish for bumps if they need them, and in some cases, use an emergency boost to resolve the problem.
>Keep trying as a lv40 S rank who doesn't play everyday >Keep getting queued up with lv80+s who constantly top 2 every race in the gp
Sure.. anon.. Ill keep trying...
The last piece I'll say is that almost no one uses drift correction enough from what I've seen from streams/videos. No human can perfect a turn every time, but drifting can easily fix it. It's the number one reason I've always liked SNES F-Zero. is really a good example of this, but in all the videos I posted you'll see I constantly make minor adjustments almost every turn. They're also a way of optimizing speed, since you can bypass the hypotenuse entirely. All vehicles not Stingray also will lose speed on anything that isn't a tiny turn, so if you can drift instead of turn, always do it.
Hit rank S7
Still haven't won a GP
I dedicated all of today and yesterday to this game, my fingers feel like they're going to fall off
I want to die
What's your secret anon, I either get a lucky skyview before the roundabout and maybe place top 3 or I place 30th and kill my run
Mute Shitty II is a crapshoot, especially for Stingray primarily due to how many players there are that can screw you over. It's the only reason I don't play that vehicle as much as the others. But if you do manage a 1st-3rd place then you're halfway there to 1st place in GP. I've already posted the best skyway in Mute 2. Port Town I believe the best is after the jump over the gap (and if it gets an extended one this is probably the most busted skyway of all). Stingrays dominate Red Canyon because the start favors them (if you start with jumps, jump left twice going through dirt, if arrows, arrow right twice through dirt for easy starting in 1st-5th place), plus you can take the jump skip if you're gutsy. Boost through the dirt on the right side of the windy part. Only thing you need to do for White Land 2 is cut through the damage area and boost afterwards.
What are your recommendations for Port Town I and Red Canyon for Stingray? I always seem to place really badly on those two in particular. For both I keep ending up in an awkward situation on the last lap where I'm top 10 but can't get super boost fast enough and get passed up by people on the skyway and finish at 20-30.
9 months ago
Anonymous
not the super expert anon but I have won some GPs >Red Canyon
Either frontrun from the very beginning or bag the first lap to get a skyway of your own depending on how strong your start is. Always go for jump cut. Boost across the gravel in the snaking path at the end. >Port Town I
Don’t slow down anywhere for any reason. This version is simple enough that you can use your boost whenever you lose top speed (don’t do this on Port Town II)
9 months ago
Anonymous
Port Town I is also quite chaotic mostly because of how simple the course is. Again, the best area for the skyway, I believe, is on the jump over the gap, just before you land. The part where I see most people have problems with is the magnets. Use drift to counteract these, and for the last magnet, drift into it at the end to set you up for a nice turn. Save your boosts for the end as best you can, and constantly spin in groups to preserve your energy. Sorry, this is very generic advice because it's a very generic course. Any Stingray that scores high on both Mute City II and Port Town I basically has the GP won so long as they don't choke on White Land I.
Red Canyon is one map you never want to be behind on (ideally you will never take a skyway, but don't give up if you must), and in GP, the start is always the same: Criss cross jumps and boosts (strategy already said in previous post) This is fantastic for Stingray as it allows him to be in 1st-10th place by the starting line most of the time because he moves through dirt easily. From there, boost in the windy part (through dirt on right side, this route avoids most bumpers too), save spare boost for emergency. Unlike all other craft, the first and second turn of the race isn't going to slow you down much. Stingray dominates this course. Also consider practice mode if you want to master the jump skip. I'll make a video of that soon.
Thanks, I don't have too much experience with Stingray because I only picked it up a few days ago but I found I was doing better with it than the other machines. I'll keep these tips in mind next GP.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Port Town I is also quite chaotic mostly because of how simple the course is. Again, the best area for the skyway, I believe, is on the jump over the gap, just before you land. The part where I see most people have problems with is the magnets. Use drift to counteract these, and for the last magnet, drift into it at the end to set you up for a nice turn. Save your boosts for the end as best you can, and constantly spin in groups to preserve your energy. Sorry, this is very generic advice because it's a very generic course. Any Stingray that scores high on both Mute City II and Port Town I basically has the GP won so long as they don't choke on White Land I.
Red Canyon is one map you never want to be behind on (ideally you will never take a skyway, but don't give up if you must), and in GP, the start is always the same: Criss cross jumps and boosts (strategy already said in previous post) This is fantastic for Stingray as it allows him to be in 1st-10th place by the starting line most of the time because he moves through dirt easily. From there, boost in the windy part (through dirt on right side, this route avoids most bumpers too), save spare boost for emergency. Unlike all other craft, the first and second turn of the race isn't going to slow you down much. Stingray dominates this course. Also consider practice mode if you want to master the jump skip. I'll make a video of that soon.
Greentext and meme all you want, but it doesn't change the truth. Spin attack doesn't do enough damage and simply not reliable enough to "farm other racers as your recharge zone". Pico only survives as a character because of his status, but his main "gimmick" of being the aggressive bruiser simply doesn't work in 99 with the way the game is currently balanced.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Every GP is finish has 2-4 Geese in the top ten, you’re fine. Try getting good with the other cars and you might learn something.
Not him, but I think spins damage should be boosted for everyone, and bumo damage should be reduced. It's dumb that simply existing in the group as falcon removes half your bar. It's dumb that spinning is really ONLY a defensive maneuver, since you basically don't do shit with it otherwise. It's stupid that the netcode is so shit that 100% of the time I will spin bump someone at an opportune moment as any car, watch them move from position, then watch them teleport right back into position since it never really happened on their side. It's extremely unrewarding and feels unfair to be slammed off into the distance by someone else, but to never be able to get that same feedback in reverse when I do it back to someone. >hur, fox player
Nope, been playing Falcon and Ray recently. Even as Goose I don't feel like I make an impact on others, but they can do so to me. The latency is really handled poorly.
>watch xlaunaiiire >"oh my god golden fox is broken, literally unbeatable" >watch zewing >"oh my god stingray is broken, literally unbeatable"
guys I think the only thing that matters is the player's skill
(unless you play blue falcon it sucks ass lmao)
watch zewing
he always gets one good timed boost and uses stingray's insane max speed to leave everyone in the dust
even a boosting fox stands no chance to a full speed stingray
>Use Fire Stingray for Queen Cup for my last decal, got close with Goose >Do meh on MCII >Get first on Port & Red >Oh shit, might actually make it. >Get fourth on WL cause the cars are insane on that one >Settle with second on WLII cause the guy in first is not threatening my leaf
Overall fun GP. Might be a Stingray main despite being a Falcon player. Although I’m sure King League will kick my ass cause of Fire Field.
I’m back, got 1st with Falcon and Goose now. Unfortunately Golden Fox it’s hard to get the lead on Mute II and Port I. Also the terrible grip makes it bad for the White Land gauntlet. Gonna try one last time, see you guys then.
Never said it was Easy Mode. I got 2nd one time but of course the opponent that beat me was a Goose player. My issue is not being able to find KOs to extend my energy bar for later races.
>Although I’m sure King League will kick my ass cause of Fire Field.
The majority of KL(King League) is brutal. Wait till Ace League.
I do not know if Ace League is a guarantee. It shows the achievement of all 15 tracks but who knows.
>I do not know if Ace League is a guarantee. It shows the achievement of all 15 tracks but who knows.
Dataminers have found extra tracks and found out they are Ace League tracks plus some extra tracks.
Ace League has
Mute City 4
Big Blue 2
Sand Storm 1
Silence 2
Sand Storm 2
Trying to make a webm of an awesome clip I found, but the fricking source file is 30mb, and I can only seem to knock it down to 6.7mb. Any WEBM wizards here?
simplest thing is to just use webm for lazys with constant encoding to the file size of 3.9. if you really want to chop it up try using handbrake to compress the original video file before using webm for lazys. handbrake's interface is simple enough for anyone to figure out if they haven't used it before
I just won three matches in a row
One was White Land II at the end if the GP (I lost the GP) then two 99 matches on Death Wind I and Mute City II
I am ready to kill myself
Well that was a ride, but I'm out of tickets. I've seen many here struggling and I want to see you guys win more, so ask me anything and I'll do my best to answer. I've gotten 1st in all GPs with all vehicles, so I should be able to answer almost anything. I'll also post a few videos of my time in Queen GP, sharing a few strategies and secrets.
f-zero gx with online mp needs elo matchmaking, speedrunner autists would dominate that game 100x harder than this with snaking and all the other autist tech
Do some practice mode and try out both, then see whichever you prefer. I've stuck with analog stick myself, I've found it useful for making turns.
hell yeah there we go, got to White Land II with literal 0 chance of losing as long as I finished (and clutched out 1st anyway)
Falcon is such a satisfying machine to win with
i would love analog if i could adjust the tension like my xbox controller. its way too lose on the pro controller so i just use dpad
honestly wish i had the switch SNES controller just for the feel
hell yeah there we go, got to White Land II with literal 0 chance of losing as long as I finished (and clutched out 1st anyway)
Falcon is such a satisfying machine to win with
It’s my favorite machine! Getting wins on the others afterward was far easier but I’m going right back to Falcon for casual play. I think I’ll only try to win with Falcon when King League releases.
1st on Mute City I as a Stingray let's go!
It's wild that I absolutely hated this machine, but in my obsession to get a grand prix win, I've dumped so much time into practicing with it, and just generally using it, that I actually kind of like it now... I'm sorry Goosebros...
This is pretty much me, had been full on goose but swapped after trying to get better at the game and learn stuff better. Now I find myself wanting to stick with Stingray.
Rick is just a nickname I've had. Haven't done a ton of Death Wind II yet but just like Death Wind I, spin before boosts as best you can to prevent being knocked away. Spin on first boost pad, use drift correction for the second one (do not let go of gas or you will slide out). Fully let off gas and drift turn into third one as best you can.
Here's a simple video all Stingray/Goose need to know, and still very useful for the others. Get bumps from other players as much as possible. Anytime you see a player slightly behind you, drift into them for a speed boost. Practice on the starting area and eventually it'll become second nature throughout the race. Goose/Stingray should always be wary of their current speed, and fish for bumps if they need them, and in some cases, use an emergency boost to resolve the problem.
Duly noted on the Death Wind II boosts, thanks! And the bump boosting is also great advice, I've been trying to take advantage of it as much as I can. Has helped me learn better boost conservation.
>Toe Sucker
God, I love handles like this.
I saw a player earlier named "PLAP PLAP" and I almost lost focus from laughter.
Here's an example of Mute City II, with almost more nuances than I can count >boost in healing because I know I won't need it, I have my route planned >panic slow down but still get the best skyway (2 arrows + skip) >drift right on jump to give room to dodge second jump because jump pad is slower than boost >perfect the final corner knowing I will use a boost
This is essentially the perfect final lap, but most laps should be done this way as well. I normally take the left side of the circle because most others do (more sparks), plus it's easier to set up on the jump.
I've seen Poo a few times in the lead-ish as Fox but I don't recall ever seeing him in the finals in GP, at least not top 3, or specifically beating me. There's only about 3 people I've raced that frick me up, and every single one is a Stingray because if luck is on their side, they win against all other craft. But Goose is extremely consistent and saves a ton of boost for the final lap to either overtake others or as insurance against tons of bumpers, something no other racer can do.
Very nice. Should Stingrays be avoiding both jumps if they're at max speed, or just the 2nd one?
No one should avoid the first jump unless you have tons of surplus to double boost on that stretch (sometimes happens for Fox/Goose or if you just got a kill and you need to burn your boost). The only reason you should specifically avoid jumps is if you are boosting, because they will kill your speed. All racers should avoid the second jump and boost through gravel instead except "maybe" Stingray. If you need more sparks for the skip in the video, trudge through the dirt and fall back slightly if at all because Stingray has dirt resistance. If you don't and you need to burn your one boost for the lap, do the boost-dirt skip, avoid the jump, and fish for a bump from another player after the turn. Or boost after the final turn to increase your chances of scoring a KO, it hardly matters for Stingray.
got all the decals and colors for goose except 99/gp rank #1 but holy frick that feels like a meaningless grind that i might switch back to stingray and unlock his shit next week
Bros, I actually just started crying
I was in first in the grand prix but just got ranked out on white land 1
I feel like such a worthless waste of human life
I will never see white land 2
Here is the Red Canyon skip. Only Stingray can do it without a boost, but using a boost to do this is pointless. Also it is not easy, and I have double digit crashouts on this jump. Note exactly how it's done. Hit the jump on the edge, 90 degree angle to the landing zone, drift to maximize distance (so you aren't traveling along the hypotenuse) and then swerve just before landing so you don't crash forward into the wall. This will fail entirely if you aren't going exactly 478 before the jump. If you do this during GP you are a madman and have my respect. Bonus points if you feel the bump from the wall behind (not damage but actual bump). That means you barely made it.
And no, landing on the jump at 478 from the previous jump doesn't seem to "always" work for other vehicles and it makes a risky jump turn into a risky and pure luck jump. Don't try it.
>Only Stingray can do it without a boost, but using a boost to do this is pointless.
That doesn't make any sense, ramps reset your speed and it's the same speed for everyone. Boosting over a ramp just wastes your boost and every car goes just as far because your top speed in the air is always the same.
The game clearly considers your speed when hitting the ramp to determine how high you go, and then sets your speed after. See video. Fox can't even make the jump going fully straight, no swerve. But now I've discovered there's a cue to whether or not you made the double jump. If you hear the landing sound, you're going to die, but if not, you did it. Going to see how well I can do this in 99s soon.
>Won Knight and Mini GP with some time and effort >Queen GP, do well for the first half just to get targeted by a bunch of chinks and S13 homosexuals resulting in pinballing or get consumed by the horde in Mute City II, not getting enough points to win in the long run
Its over.
Knight GP 1st isn't bragging rights, its 5 rookie courses while playing against a bunch of people who are also getting familiar with the game.
Mini GP is just keep trying until you get lucky with the queue
Queen GP is constantly getting queued with S10+ gays who already won the gp just to needlessly stroke their autism
Having the Queen trophy is bragging rights
>filtered by fricking Death Wind I over anything Queen has to offer
Literally press L and R to shift against the wind. Mute City II on Queen GP is hell with all the sweats trying to claw into top 10
Do you play Fox or something? That track is AIDS, you come out late in the funnel (which is guaranteed if you have low accel) and trying to claw ahead above rank 20 is a nightmare.
>bomb blasts me out of red canyon jumps final lap >become lucky bumper
wish you could opt out of these things cos its just fricking insulting sometimes
>MFW got 2nd on Port Town 1
This track and Death Wind 1 and 2 are my b***hes. Yeah I know I did not get 1st but as long I get top 10 on a track, those tracks are my b***hes. I also finished a Queen League GP so I have all of QL tracks unlocked. Now to wait for King League and Ace League to come out.
>1st place is 30 points ahead of me in 2nd >Basically just has to finish each race in order to win the whole thing >fails White Land 1 jump
You can bet I took White Land 2 nice and easy
>I don't play Falcon often >but when I do I score 4 kills and beat everyone by 2 seconds each race
They need to have black bumpers explode after smoking for 5 seconds. First place seeing an old straggling smoking bumper lap 4 is completely unfair, and first place should never get advantages like this.
>Enter Queen GP >Top 10 players are lv80 with 99+ wins and are pulling massive skips
The future of F zero 99 is pretty bleak for the average player ngl.
I dont want to be handed free gp trophies, but its demotivating when you load into a Queen GP and see a bunch of 99+ trophies before Mute City II starts. Game needs a skill based queue system. What rank you are is who you should be competing with, A ranks play with A ranks, S ranks play with S ranks, S10 hikkineets should ONLY play with their own kind, unironically killing the spirit of the game imho.
I'm hoping they follow Tetris 99's "Tetris Maximus" approach and implement an Expert Cup or Champion's Circuit or whatever that filters people with a certain number of wins.
Eh, I'm fine with the rewards for a 99 win and a GP win. It makes it feel like the effort might be worthwhile, whereas a badge simply doesn't feel as significant.
I got the black paint for everyone. I'm not going to bother actually sweating for the golds. I don't like the way they look and although I recognize that skill prevails there is far too much going on for me to want to bother trying to maintain balance in the universe for five races. Especially when I get grouped with xLunaiiire, G33ke, iceman92, et cetera. It is well and truly hopeless if you get a nolifer in your lobby. I'm mopping up the last few paints for Falcon by just getting prix points and then I can just play prlurely for the fun of it.
>fingers starting to hurt >right bumper on controller is starting to occasionally drop inputs >3 tickets that I am barely holding onto by constantly playing after each GP
I'm having a terrible time with Queen GP. Finished 2nd my first try, but having trouble ever since. And I've been doing great on single 99 races, even getting consecutive wins on different courses, but it's not been translating well to the GP so far.
Stingray is VASTLY too weak. I get pushed around more with this thing than Fox and Falcon. The slightest touch of another racer sends me sailing off to the side, or even entirely backward. If I get so much as breathed on while I turn I lose all grip and go flying off on a mario kart drift. This is nonsense, holy frick it's total shit.
Hold drift when you boost at the start. You will usually bump into the person behind you, giving you yet another boost. This is usually enough to get you from 40-60, to 20-30. Do it again and you're in 10th.
You absolutely can at the start of the line up. You have to hold on the gas when it counts down. The timing depends on exactly what machine you chose because it's tied to your acceleration stat. For ray, I think it's at the end of the second ellipsis/dot. Your accel isn't as good as everyone else's so you're quickly overtaken, but if you press and hold drift a tad after that boost, you'll be rammed by the other pilot you're going against, and you'll get a small boost forward from their momentum and they'll LOSE speed as well. This is a mandatory strat to get a good lead in the SNES version on master difficulty.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I mean drift, not boost. You can't get ahead of other people fast enough to bump off of them unless they're so moronic they don't do a starting boost.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>You can't get ahead of other people fast enough to bump off of them unless they're so moronic they don't do a starting boost.
That's more likely than you would think.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Betting on your opponents being moronic is never a good idea.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You also lose nothing from doing it as a counter point. It's more reliable if you're next to a fox.
9 months ago
Anonymous
What in the hell are you even talking about? Fox has the best acceleration.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It also has the worst speed cap. You are actually reading the car's stats when you select them, right?
9 months ago
Anonymous
What the frick does speed cap matter? You think you're going top speed in the first 0.5 seconds?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Stat scaling. If you and another person boost at the same time, a ray's boost is more powerful than any other racers. You'll move slightly farther. I'm trying to help you, my guy and you're just vehemently resisting all advice because you're mentally stuck in the 'can't win' zone.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I just won a race literally 4 minutes ago, and that's because I don't use moron tactics like "hope my opponent is moronic enough to press no buttons and let me bump off of him."
9 months ago
Anonymous
You were literally complaining how you can't get ahead. I doubt that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Stingray can't get ahead easily, yes. Watch and professional Stingray player, you won't see any of them doing your stupid gimmick start. It doesn't typically get ahead until midway through the race.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, refuse to try something new that costs you nothing. Have a good day, anon.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's going to cost you the race when you bump into someone's ass and start even slower than you usually would.
He only got first on White Land 2 because he got lucky. I was the guy in 2nd (on that track, specifically) and it just so happened that he barely caught up to me on lap 3, and when he bumped me it was as I was passing a bumper set. I got pushed into a red, and I finished 2nd anyway, not even a half second behind him. Dude just no lifes the game.
>Go back to play SNES F-Zero out of nostalgia >Get getting my shit pushed in on Death Wind 2 and couldn't beat it on Expert >Finally realized the Death Wind 2 wind direction in F-Zero 99 was changed from the original SNES version
Holy frick the SNES version is so fricking cancer I wonder what other changes to the tracks Nintendo made .
No, the feedback for hitting other machines is drastically reduced in 99. Hitting a red/blue bumper is closer to what hitting any machine in SNES feels like.
>Nintendo release the "Family Computer" as a way to bring familes together >the families: FUUUUUUCK FRICKFRICKFRICK SHIT FRICKKKK FUUUUUUUUUCK!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS? GOD FRICKING DAMN IT!!!!
When do I need to start accelerating with stingray to get a boost at the start? It seems no matter when I time it I stall out or just don't go as fast as other stingrays.
It feels like too many people are just playing to be kamikazes trying to purposely impede the progress of anyone they can without caring about even finishing the race
I'll say this much, people aren't joking when they say to utilise the practice mode. In relentlessly attempting to beat the time on White Land II it became incredibly easy on the Stingray for me, and the only thing I had to fight on that track was bumpers when it came to this grand prix. Anyway, this was finally my grand prix win with the Stingray and I've really come to appreciate it a lot, despite absolute hating it in the beginning.
Now all that's left is to demean myself and get my grand prix win with the Fox...
Falcon is a bit of an odd one to win with. He doesn't have a set-in-stone game plan, unlike every other vehicle. He has to make decisions on the fly. Usually, you want to try to set up a situation where you can steal first on the last lap. But in other cases, like say you get skyway early, you might need to steal it early and maintain it until the end. It can be surprisingly complicated, make sure you watch and manage your resources carefully.
Sometimes it just doesn't happen, and that's why you've gotta keep an eye on it. If you don't think you're going to have a skyway in time, you instead need to boost at very optimal times to keep up with the lead.
Got 3rd place in my GP as Falcon. I placed in the top 10 in all 5 races, but it wasn't enough to overcome the top 2 Goose players. Won't keep me from trying, though
I dreamed they added the satellaview machines and they were all moronic powercreep that ruined the game
what do you think the accuracy of this premonition is?
They’re more likely to add just the BS tracks than any of the machines. Every new car would need a full set of decals to match the original four and I can't see that happening
Low because, unfortunately, I don't think we're going to get more racers. Don't get me wrong - I HOPE we get more racers, but I'm not optimistic. Keep in mind this is a free-to-play title to promote Nintendo Online. DLC will be minimal, if at all (beyond the already announced new tracks)
The only real problem with matchmaking is that it's never skill based. Also if all the neets had a heart attack (me included) the game would be dominated by middle aged nips
For Fire Stingray, is the general strategy to conserve for the first 2 laps, using your higher top speed to keep towards the ~20-40s, and then skyway + burn all your conserved power to try and take first in the last lap?
Just picked up Stingray and that's what I've been doing so far and it feels like I either do great, was even able to get a 1st place, or I can't break through the pack at the end and do worse than I usually average on other machines.
Also it feels like there's a hidden weight stat that's different than durability, because it feels like I get pushed around more as Stingray, even though I'm supposedly more durable than Fox and Falcon.
Stingray, for whatever reason, just seems to be heavily affected by other cars. I'm starting to think it's durability may be bugged. No explanation other than a hidden weight stat. I sometimes come into the recovery put from the starting ramp with almost half health, usually around 70th.
Most likely spots to get kos would be in the middle to end of the pack, where all the shitters belong (such as yourself), near the finish line as well where everyone is low on energy, they have to be pretty much smoking and blinking white to actually ko
Bully the ever loving frick out of people with the Wild Goose. It's so much fun. You get a badge for 5 KO's in a single race and I wear that with pride. >boost and spin together to deal max damage >ride the edge of the pit area and keep people out >tap the shoulder buttons and nudge people next to you into bombs/bumpers
Still no wins, but I'm not giving up. A wired connection seems to have helped with the desync issues so things feel better at least. Still struggling to get back to actually placing in the top 10 consistently like I did a week or two ago. It feels like everyone got better since launch except me.
Warms my heart to see other people post Big Blue love in my absence.
Sometimes I wonder if i'm the only moron going into the final race of a GP still carrying the same health as the default.
It happens to me consistently.
I've won GPs like that.
I really need to just get the kill on those smoking grey bumpers that sometimes hang around the refill when I dont need the refill.
it's KO power bonus is practically a catch-up mechanic for players that can't easily break away and lead. if you play well you won't find easy KOs. but yeah any grey smoker should be attempted
Those are also games that make use of mode 7. The spinning room in Super Castlevania IV, in particular, looks amazing, and wouldn't be possible without mode 7.
it was way too hard for me to play as a kid and my dad's gamer friend couldn't handle it either. i didn't think it was impressive because I couldn't read the graphics properly, I kept thinking there was something wrong with the TV because mute city's background looked like it was full of static.
>can’t win GP because multiple NEETS are hogging everything for leaderboard wank points
Can’t of don’t even want to play at this point
Starting so late and trying to get all the colors was a mistake
I was gonna say you don't need to win a GP but I forgot you do need to do it for the gold skin for each machine
I'm glad I did it on Knight League because outside of a sweetspot where Japs are going to sleep and burgers are not awake/busy the opposition's been pretty tough. I've won a cup with Falcon and can probably do it but i'm kinda feeling lazy.
Good luck out there lol
It wasnt bad during knight GP, you were usually matched with players in your general level (level 1 - 30s if you were ~lv10)
All my attempts at Queen GP thus far had at least 10-20 players with ranks such as S4 , S6, S8 , S fricking 10 who are lv60-80 (Im rank S lv42). You have to play PERFECTLY to get the trophy now. I got two 1sts and three top 10s and only got 2nd place overall, with a S10 neet taking over my 1st for the last race.
Next update needs a better skill based queue system or I and many others will just quit.
>Next update needs a better skill based queue system
It doesn't even have to be anything too complex. Just separate the giga autismos from everyone else
Base it on leaderboard points. The more wins you get each week, the stronger your opponents are. The people who keep gaining points when already at the top are the actual most skilled. It does mean the start of each week will be chaos though, but that can be fun if it's not the norm
Those ranks feel mostly arbitrary though. I only got my first win after I reached S rank. As long as you consistently manage to beat rivals you rank up pretty fast, even if you don't manage to win anything. It needs to be separated by wins because those are the autists that are racking up the numbers
>rank S3, do grand prix as wild goose >beat S5+ rivals first race >next races keep giving me B+ and A+ rivals until the final >barely get any increase for beating them, literally no increase to the rank bar because one race only had me beat one rival
Good old skill based matchmaking.
Can you imagine the infighting and machine gayging in a full new f zero game with over 30 machines if this game with just 4 of them has so much shitposting over who uses which?
Why is it so hard to understand? If you see Lunaiire, frick him over ASAP. I did my best to screw him over but fricking Golden Crutch in Big Blue is just unstoppable.
Never been interested in f-zero before but seeing how many people are liking this, I might honestly play it and try out some older f-zero games. Hope this leads to the franchise getting a new 3d title and getting a big burst in popularity like pikmin is going through.
Does this game play by Mario Kart rules where your only chance of victory is breaking away at the start or else you're at the mercy of the clusterfrick?
Anyone here has a real rival in this? Like someone you casually meet and want to make sure they don't win or is constantly spin attacking you while frontrunning?
I feel like Mew2King has it out for me, guy is relentless whenever i find him. Hate his guts because he's always spin attacking me and ramming me near the pit area so i don't get any boost back.
They really need to fix not being able to leave a GP if you crash out right at the end of the race, because my only option is closing and reopening the game and if I do that, I lose the EXP points I could have gotten during the Prix, along potentially missing on joining another lobby on time before the time runs out.
>got bumped going around a corner into the wall into a bomb and crash out in the middle of the GP >"guess I gotta grind more tickets!" >Mute City I
Not having as much fun post Queen League, it's getting to that point where shits just making me mad instead of laughing.
>make it to white land 2 for the first time >crash out on the final lap because i missed the jump by literal pixels
ive never wanted to just give up as much as i do right now. i was so fricking happy to have actually made it there in the first place only for it to just be ripped away from me from something so fricking stupid. the only reason i was even able to make it past red canyon was because of race 1 giving me an unprecedented 3 ko's
If "Mah" is one of you, gg. You were giving me a real run for my money. Pretty unreal we tied.
I've been there anon, it sucks but don't give up! When Knight league was up there was probably 3 times I beefed the mine shortcut -> jump pad and crashed out in GP where I was doing well.
well i actually managed to finish a gp for the first time, 10th place though which is pretty fricking miserable >33 / 26 / 9 / 3 / 13
10th out of 99 players is respectable. Keep at it anon!
Don't think that, just reaching White Land II alone is praiseworthy, you already do better than 79 poor souls by reaching that point. good luck in your next GP.
i guess youre right, i have a horrible habit of getting way too hard on myself sometimes. ill just have to keep trying until i win something i guess
Don't think that, just reaching White Land II alone is praiseworthy, you already do better than 79 poor souls by reaching that point. Good luck in your next GP.
>10th place though which is pretty fricking miserable
I have yet to even finish a Grand Prix as I keep getting filtered on the 4 course. I still haven't unlocked Silence
If "Mah" is one of you, gg. You were giving me a real run for my money. Pretty unreal we tied.
I've been there anon, it sucks but don't give up! When Knight league was up there was probably 3 times I beefed the mine shortcut -> jump pad and crashed out in GP where I was doing well.
Why are people level 0? Also, what are the boost colors at 65 and 85? I'd love for at least one to make me actually want to change from the default blue.
I still can't believe this happened, I even took White Land II as peaceful as possible and still ended 2nd. Never give up bros, never give up. My hands are still trembling as I write this, how did I do so well?
>butthole in 1st with the golden fox >twitch username in bio >pass him on the end of the final lap >he crashes out trying to pass me
lmaoooo enjoy 75th place
>the twitch streamer showed up again >alongside mew2king >the former crashed out the same exact way as last time >mew2king couldn't stand up to the might of the Stingray
Roundhouse kick streamers into red bumpers.
Frick anyone who complained about the jump on White Land II being shortened. I was in first place because nobody knows how to drive the course yet, got lightly tapped by a bumper and lost all my speed before doing the jump and crashed.
Right after you exit the multi-u-turn hell hole, you can boost, hold R and let let go of the gas to turn more tightly. And of course, do the same without boosting around the ice patch before the jump.
homie its frickin practice, theres no homies there to bump you
9 months ago
Anonymous
There is no world in which you 1) don't cut those hairpins, and 2) boost immediately afterwards to regain your speed. IT IS THE BIGGEST TIME SAVE ON THE ENTIRE MAP.
9 months ago
Anonymous
nope
9 months ago
Anonymous
The world where you barely have any boost unless you sandbag for a skyway,
which you should since if you get that far you should already have the rank points to cruise and win with a 10th. You are objectively correct that it is STRICTLY necessary to boost there on Stingray if you want to play fair, but slowing down and getting even a single skyway is enough to have a massive life lead you can snag 1st with all the same.
I'd never do that jump unless the 1st Place was on the line, I'm afraid of myself screwing it up, I already risk it enough by doing the gap jumps on Red Canyon and White Land I.
Am I the only one who starts playing like a braindead monkey the second he gets a kill and a full bar? I swear to god I always squander it by boosting into walls and red bumpers.
You are definitely not alone, I used to be like that but I've tried to wean off that behavior, it costed me way too many victories or got me killed . Best to just treat it as a bonus and carry on with business as usual. Play like normal and then expend extra meter in the final lap when it's safe / you can do so without slamming into shit.
practice the courses. dead serious. you will feel better when you learn where the best use of skyways are but if you practice a course without all that other bullshit in the way and get used to where to boost, you will get better placings alone off of that.
>reddit 99
I play Falcon and I feel it's all just based on luck (Which I have dogshit luck and always have had dogshit luck my entire life)
rank 3 is my highest and i rarely break top 10. game is fun though
I'm trying.
>Get superboost in the third lap
>just don't use it and carry it into the final lap to steal 1st place on Red Canyon
>Do it again on White Land II
and that is why Stingray is still the best.
I finally won my first race, on Red Canyon of all places. But in the GP I rank out at Red Canyon!
I pick Falcon
No
1 have one will under my belt since launch
I struggle more then ever to survive races. Did I get worse?
No, just that strategies are emerging and you have to actually plan your boosts and play the pack according to your machine.
You're getting beat by people that practice against their ghosts, understand turning better than you, and have a game plan.
You can get there too
Anybody else started picking red colors for your car just so your enemies will have a harder time spotting red bumpers in the crowd?
I pick normal Black Falcon because I always picked it in X
i pick red because i like outrun
That game has amazing music too. I got that ost on vinyl.
red should be illegal
That’s the sneakiest evilest thing I can imagine
So Anon, if you won the second F-Zero Ganker tournament, what would you do with the one billion space credits in prize money?
Unironically I had a dream last night that I lived in something like West Edmonton Mall, so probably that. At least for a year.
Sex with Jody
I crashed like 6 fire stingrays before i won that tournament, so i'll probably spend most of it repairing those, and anything i have left over will go to
Starting the Pico Cup
Why are you asking me when I never won?
Pay Jody Summer for anal sex
Every child gets a Nintendo Switch with a free year subscription of NSO to play F-Zero 99!
GET A NEW SEXBOT
I had an easier time with the Queen League compared to the Knight League. Managed to get the new decal for the Wild Goose on my first full run.
Honestly, I'd probably get this girl I like a couple of gifts.
Oh, and I'd either buy myself a DVD set of the ADV Neon Genesis Evangelion dub or purchase the entire Gamecube library.
>I had an easier time with the Queen League compared to the Knight League. Managed to get the new decal for the Wild Goose on my first full run.
same. literally if you can just practice red canyon a bit and survive whiteland, its a breeze
Same, not sure if its because I'm improving or because the courses are just filtering people more. I'm hoping Knight League cycles back into rotation soon, I want to try and get a win in it since I couldn't previously.
no
>consistently can place top 10 in grand prix
>still light years away from 1st
>got top 3 in the first two races
>crash out on the 3rd
>get 40th in the first race
>finish the GP
This game sometimes
HEY FRICKERS
REMEMBER ME FROM YESTERDAY?
>golden fox
doesn't count
FOXBROS I HAVE TAKEN THY SIN UNTO MINESELF
SUFFER NO CLAMOUR FROM SHITTERS FOR THOU ART CLEANSED
AND NOW I DEPART
FOR I AM A FALCONCHAD
>Do a Pro 99 in the Falcon
>Death Wind II
>in the lead the entire race
>lap 2 people
>win
Falconbros I have ascended
>lap 2 people
You mean lapped 2 children who are most likely under the age of 12 years old. Big tough guy over here.
yeah fricking dunk on them little shits
Literally just now did it again lmao
>Just tried stingray on 99 for the fun of it.
>Got Mute City I because of course I did
>got 1st
I am on fire today, Jesus Christ. Guys, in all seriousness, I think Fox might be the best car for learning how to race well with a ton of transferable skills.
>Got my first 99 win after less than 200 races total
>Can consistently get top 10 in Knight and Mini
>Frick up White Land I three times in a row so I've never finished a Queen yet
What the frick man
Time trials is right there anon
>Wild Goose 1/26
>S Pilot 1/30
>Super Spark Collector 1/60
So the Golden Fox's playstyle is "boost constantly, avoid others", and the Wild Goose's is "conserve boosts, plow through others".
What are the play styles for the Falcon and Stingray?
>Falcon
lose
>Stingray
lose while trying really hard
>Stingray
outplay people
>falcon
Outplay people with luck
>Stingray
Same as Fox, except you instantly lose if you touch a wall or someone spins into you.
>Falcon
Luck check.
>Stingray
beg that you never have to use breaks
>Falcon
beg that the track favors nobody else
Sticking with the Goose, then.
Honk honk, motherfrickers.
Based
I've only played a bit but already have 6 wins with it, all with a heaping helping of murder.
Best playstyle. Ruining peoples day with a well timed spin or boost feels amazing.
>beg that you never have to use breaks
I have over 50 wins and multiple GP wins, I still don't know where the brake button is.
It's really just better to blast tap the accel on sharp turns to maintain grip and at least some speed.
falcon can't boost as much as golden fox but it still defines it's playstyle. falcon is straight up skyway and power meter management
Stingray is the king of skyway management, in that you can actually save skyway to make big final lap plays.
Stingray main here. General play is "get a lead, hold it while minimizing boosts." If you get a good funnel and end up in front, stay in there. If you don't, play in the pack—you have above average durability—and try to get as early a skyway as possible. If you're around the front but don't have a solid lead, manage your sparks and try to time your last skyway for the final lap. Stingray's high speed means you can hold onto your sky boost for a long time on some tracks, though it depends
You will lose a lot of GPs because Mute City I and II are both heavily biased against Stingray. I need to get to the skyway on the first half of the first lap if I want a chance at getting top 5, and I have not found a way to be consistent at doing that yet.
Mute City II is a lot better than Mute City I for the stingray. It's still not great but it's a significant improvement.
Hit rank S7
Still haven't won a GP
I dedicated all of today and yesterday to this game, my fingers feel like they're going to fall off
I want to die
What's your secret anon, I either get a lucky skyview before the roundabout and maybe place top 3 or I place 30th and kill my run
Falcon’s style is opportunism. It can sort of do all the other car’s tactics when the situation calls for it, which is quite powerful. But it requires very good fundamentals. If you’re struggling with Falcon I recommend going for wins with the other vehicles first.
Was gonna say something but yeah Falcon is what
said, gauge the situation and you can be a walgreens knockoff of Stingray or Fox. Playing to get 1st with it is kind of hard since opportunities as good as to allow you to get 1st are rare but this is surprisingly solid enough in GPs.
Winning a GPs with 5ths across all maps as Falcon is not an unlikely outcome, any Falcon would tell you.
>all I have to do to win GP is survive
>die to getting bumped into the barrier right before the White Land II jump
It’s still lethal, don’t underestimate it, and save boost just to make that jump safe if that’s what it takes. Don’t be a dumbass like me.
Was in this exact situation. 3/3/4/4, and all I had to do was place within 6 ranks of my rival, which is normally very easy since Falcon does fantastically on White Land II in a multiplayer situation.
>Falcon
Cut corners with your good grip, try to get at least one KO to get some boosts near the end, only use 1-2 boosts per lap to conserve meter
>Stingray
No clue because I'm not a shitter, I guess just use good lines and maintain top speed
Maiming Blue Falcon is a struggle because most of the time you gotta hope a 1st Place Holder fricks up
What's the gameplan for Fire Stingray? I only played Goose so far and already learned that you can't brawl with FS.
stay at top speed all the time, be better
Push for first place from on lap 1?
No, you will get Out-foxed.
Stingray only boosts on lap 1 and lap 4
The play is to conserve your meter as much as possible for the final lap while trying to time a skyway near the end of the race.
Use your top speed and much better cornering to compensate the fact you can't boost much. Abuse the shit out of people bumping you from behind to get back to top speed.
JUST WON 2 IN A ROW WITH THE STINGRAY ON MUTE CITY II HOLY SHIT
If "winnin'" counts as finally finishing Queen Cup without crashing out or getting disqualified, then yes. I'm pleased with my fifth place.
>just won my first GP with a 10-8-6-7-3 series
i'll fricking take it
Saw it coming and it was going to happen eventually, but it sad that people are starting to drop off of the game now because of the growing frustrations of being unable to win. There will of course be those people who are just happy to place well, or have the patience to grind and grind for that win; but most don't have either trait and will just go play something else as they see the skill gap in 99 grow more and more over time. The rival system is a great idea to not make it feel like shit even if they do place poorly, but at some point a person is going to want to win instead of constantly filling a bar that gives no reward, and now that you're almost guaranteed to have some 99+ killer in any game it's going to be damn near impossible for anybody new to the series to score that win.
If the performance of this game does result in a new F-Zero game I do hope those devs have taken notes from 99 and come up with some way to have a solid matchmaking system. Cause if people think 99 is tough to win at, it's going to be hell for them once the franchise goes back to the 3rd dimension.
Source? You doomsayers are fricking wierdoes.
>Source?
The fact that lobbies fill a lot slower now and that going into modes like Pro Tracks has a 50/50 shot of even hitting the 99 player count. Then there's the many people online (and irl in my case) I've seen talk about how they stopped playing the game, these threads progressively getting slower and slower to hitting the bump limit, etc.
I'm not doomposting or claiming that the game is dead, I'm just thinking out loud about ways the decline in player count could possibly be slowed in a hypothetical new F-Zero game. If you can't see that 99 isn't as populated as it was the first 2 weeks though, you're either not paying attention or denying reality. The player count was always going to fall as time went on.
That's just any game in existence. This board is not made for threads like this anyways.
>IF GAMES DON'T MAINTAIN THEIR PEAK PLAYER COUNT INDEFINITELY THEY ARE DYING
I fricking hate this modern mindset of people like you
You're reacting to how what you felt from reading that post, not what he actually said.
That's exactly what he said. No lifers bully every single GP and people leave and game slowly loses it's playerbase until every single game has a no lifer.
Tetris 99 has the exact same problem
it's just naturally stagnating
I think it’s because of the amount of neets grinding this one game, so most people don’t have a shot in hell at winning
NTA but 3 friends of mine stopped playing once they reached S rank because they could not win anymore for days and got frustrated
Skill issue. I'm a sliver away from completing S+. Easy shit.
Literally has been 2 weeks. They should practice more.
>had been playing primarily Goose since launch
>recently swapped to Stingray to try and improve my play
>mfw having to deal with red bumpers more often now
I really gotta study their patterns.
Say what you like about Fox players but they sure as hell know how to dodge bumpers. If you want to learn there’s no better machine to try.
>Golden Fox just got a perfect 1000 in Queen Cup
>Foxgays still trying to downplay their broken car
CLEAN IT UP GOOSY
Saw Falcons take first place in Queen twice in a row, Stingrays seem to be falling off hard in the rankings
>Placed 22nd on Red Cayon
>GP 1st
Remember to keep trying Stingchads, even when all hope seems lost!
>Back to back GP wins with Stringray and Falcon
Damn I'm based
Attaboy
Not gonna lie, Red Canyon 1 fricking sucks. Only track where I tend to rank out no matter when I do the right shit. If I hit top 40, the rest of QL is easy as piss.
Finally got my first GP win lads, never give up
Women is a TRIP, Uncle Funkle
Whomever the anon was that recommended boosting next to the wall in the final zigzag of Red Canyon, fricking thank you brudda.
Let me tell you something about women: something about women
I recommended this to someone, so it was probably me. Every vehicle should boost there in my opinion. Regarding your video I can see you aren't drifting for correction, check my example. Could've prevented the wall hit easily. Also that blast turning shouldn't be required at those low speeds, just turn with drifting instead to conserve speed (only Stingray can do this).
Thanks anon, I will keep those tips in mind. I only started using Stingray yesterday so I am very appreciative of advice.
Based Rick, I think I've seen you in several matches. Impressive scoring. Name yourself after Rick Wheeler or just a coincidence? Also, any tips for nailing all the boosts in Death Wind II without slamming into walls?
If you have NSO, you should give a try anon. A lot of people went into this expecting to dislike it but have enjoyed it.
Keep trying anon, I got a GP win today with only one track I took 1st on, the rest were top 5 and a horrible top 30 for Mute City II. Sometimes even the sweaty pros choke or get a crash out at just the wrong moment.
Rick is just a nickname I've had. Haven't done a ton of Death Wind II yet but just like Death Wind I, spin before boosts as best you can to prevent being knocked away. Spin on first boost pad, use drift correction for the second one (do not let go of gas or you will slide out). Fully let off gas and drift turn into third one as best you can.
Here's a simple video all Stingray/Goose need to know, and still very useful for the others. Get bumps from other players as much as possible. Anytime you see a player slightly behind you, drift into them for a speed boost. Practice on the starting area and eventually it'll become second nature throughout the race. Goose/Stingray should always be wary of their current speed, and fish for bumps if they need them, and in some cases, use an emergency boost to resolve the problem.
>Keep trying as a lv40 S rank who doesn't play everyday
>Keep getting queued up with lv80+s who constantly top 2 every race in the gp
Sure.. anon.. Ill keep trying...
The last piece I'll say is that almost no one uses drift correction enough from what I've seen from streams/videos. No human can perfect a turn every time, but drifting can easily fix it. It's the number one reason I've always liked SNES F-Zero. is really a good example of this, but in all the videos I posted you'll see I constantly make minor adjustments almost every turn. They're also a way of optimizing speed, since you can bypass the hypotenuse entirely. All vehicles not Stingray also will lose speed on anything that isn't a tiny turn, so if you can drift instead of turn, always do it.
Mute Shitty II is a crapshoot, especially for Stingray primarily due to how many players there are that can screw you over. It's the only reason I don't play that vehicle as much as the others. But if you do manage a 1st-3rd place then you're halfway there to 1st place in GP. I've already posted the best skyway in Mute 2. Port Town I believe the best is after the jump over the gap (and if it gets an extended one this is probably the most busted skyway of all). Stingrays dominate Red Canyon because the start favors them (if you start with jumps, jump left twice going through dirt, if arrows, arrow right twice through dirt for easy starting in 1st-5th place), plus you can take the jump skip if you're gutsy. Boost through the dirt on the right side of the windy part. Only thing you need to do for White Land 2 is cut through the damage area and boost afterwards.
Voluntarily losing grip by sliding to the outside of a turn has gotten me some sick lucky bumper dodges
What are your recommendations for Port Town I and Red Canyon for Stingray? I always seem to place really badly on those two in particular. For both I keep ending up in an awkward situation on the last lap where I'm top 10 but can't get super boost fast enough and get passed up by people on the skyway and finish at 20-30.
not the super expert anon but I have won some GPs
>Red Canyon
Either frontrun from the very beginning or bag the first lap to get a skyway of your own depending on how strong your start is. Always go for jump cut. Boost across the gravel in the snaking path at the end.
>Port Town I
Don’t slow down anywhere for any reason. This version is simple enough that you can use your boost whenever you lose top speed (don’t do this on Port Town II)
Thanks, I don't have too much experience with Stingray because I only picked it up a few days ago but I found I was doing better with it than the other machines. I'll keep these tips in mind next GP.
Port Town I is also quite chaotic mostly because of how simple the course is. Again, the best area for the skyway, I believe, is on the jump over the gap, just before you land. The part where I see most people have problems with is the magnets. Use drift to counteract these, and for the last magnet, drift into it at the end to set you up for a nice turn. Save your boosts for the end as best you can, and constantly spin in groups to preserve your energy. Sorry, this is very generic advice because it's a very generic course. Any Stingray that scores high on both Mute City II and Port Town I basically has the GP won so long as they don't choke on White Land I.
Red Canyon is one map you never want to be behind on (ideally you will never take a skyway, but don't give up if you must), and in GP, the start is always the same: Criss cross jumps and boosts (strategy already said in previous post) This is fantastic for Stingray as it allows him to be in 1st-10th place by the starting line most of the time because he moves through dirt easily. From there, boost in the windy part (through dirt on right side, this route avoids most bumpers too), save spare boost for emergency. Unlike all other craft, the first and second turn of the race isn't going to slow you down much. Stingray dominates this course. Also consider practice mode if you want to master the jump skip. I'll make a video of that soon.
god fricking dammit i just can't get better than 2nd
All of my wins are from lucky skyways
Did they nerf Pico or something? It feels like I have a lot less health than I used to.
The harder tracks usually also have much smaller recovery zones.
That might be it, I'm just not recovering as much HP as I used to.
The recovery zones are other racers.
This would make sense if Pico actually did more damage or if the spin attack was buffed in general.
>just buff my shitty vacuum cleaner bro please bro I can’t learn to dodge bumpers bro
me unironically
Greentext and meme all you want, but it doesn't change the truth. Spin attack doesn't do enough damage and simply not reliable enough to "farm other racers as your recharge zone". Pico only survives as a character because of his status, but his main "gimmick" of being the aggressive bruiser simply doesn't work in 99 with the way the game is currently balanced.
Every GP is finish has 2-4 Geese in the top ten, you’re fine. Try getting good with the other cars and you might learn something.
*I finish
>Only 2-4
Not even
Not him, but I think spins damage should be boosted for everyone, and bumo damage should be reduced. It's dumb that simply existing in the group as falcon removes half your bar. It's dumb that spinning is really ONLY a defensive maneuver, since you basically don't do shit with it otherwise. It's stupid that the netcode is so shit that 100% of the time I will spin bump someone at an opportune moment as any car, watch them move from position, then watch them teleport right back into position since it never really happened on their side. It's extremely unrewarding and feels unfair to be slammed off into the distance by someone else, but to never be able to get that same feedback in reverse when I do it back to someone.
>hur, fox player
Nope, been playing Falcon and Ray recently. Even as Goose I don't feel like I make an impact on others, but they can do so to me. The latency is really handled poorly.
>1st place Wild Goose victory on Big Blue with 5 KO's
Feels fricking great, man.
Based. I got my 5 KO Badge on Sand Ocean, though I only ended up Top 10.
I finally got my 5 KOs badge at S6 on Red Canyon
The only badges on my driver card are KO-based now.
This isn't a race; this is a demolition derby.
My favorites are 1st KO, 5 KOs in a single race and Rival KO
>reach the final lap of Queen
>did a low jump
FRICK
>watch xlaunaiiire
>"oh my god golden fox is broken, literally unbeatable"
>watch zewing
>"oh my god stingray is broken, literally unbeatable"
guys I think the only thing that matters is the player's skill
(unless you play blue falcon it sucks ass lmao)
No one with any sliver of sense calls the stingray broken.
watch zewing
he always gets one good timed boost and uses stingray's insane max speed to leave everyone in the dust
even a boosting fox stands no chance to a full speed stingray
But you also have to play extremely well to KEEP that boost.
Literally picked up Falcon yesterday and won my second GP. It’s a great car, people just don’t want to learn the damn game.
My best is a top 20 with Falcon.
It’s not enough I need that first place!
That's how it starts. Top 20 will become more consistent, then top 15, then top 10.
You'll get that 1st place finish in no time anon.
GOT MY FIRST WIN
Which course and vehicle?
port town 1 with the fox
i'll frickin take it after all the 2nds and 3rds i've gotten i dont care, i just wanted 1 win
NICE, congrats
Noice.
Tell me who you used so I can tell you that your win doesn't count.
Finally got a Blue Falcon Win for both 99 mode and Queen's GP today. So I got the new colors. Is the Knight GP gonna rotate back in soon?
I'd assume first comes the King GP then Knight GP again.
anyone watch moonmoon get his first gp dub last night? giga.
>Use Fire Stingray for Queen Cup for my last decal, got close with Goose
>Do meh on MCII
>Get first on Port & Red
>Oh shit, might actually make it.
>Get fourth on WL cause the cars are insane on that one
>Settle with second on WLII cause the guy in first is not threatening my leaf
Overall fun GP. Might be a Stingray main despite being a Falcon player. Although I’m sure King League will kick my ass cause of Fire Field.
I’m back, got 1st with Falcon and Goose now. Unfortunately Golden Fox it’s hard to get the lead on Mute II and Port I. Also the terrible grip makes it bad for the White Land gauntlet. Gonna try one last time, see you guys then.
>All these people finding out Fox is in fact not easy mode
>nooooo all those Foxes are just 200IQ masters
Never said it was Easy Mode. I got 2nd one time but of course the opponent that beat me was a Goose player. My issue is not being able to find KOs to extend my energy bar for later races.
I do not know if Ace League is a guarantee. It shows the achievement of all 15 tracks but who knows.
>I do not know if Ace League is a guarantee. It shows the achievement of all 15 tracks but who knows.
Dataminers have found extra tracks and found out they are Ace League tracks plus some extra tracks.
Ace League has
Mute City 4
Big Blue 2
Sand Storm 1
Silence 2
Sand Storm 2
Cool, anyways this guy I raced uploaded his victory on YouTube (I’m the Gold Fox) and I’m gonna copy his strats to win.
>Although I’m sure King League will kick my ass cause of Fire Field.
The majority of KL(King League) is brutal. Wait till Ace League.
Trying to make a webm of an awesome clip I found, but the fricking source file is 30mb, and I can only seem to knock it down to 6.7mb. Any WEBM wizards here?
simplest thing is to just use webm for lazys with constant encoding to the file size of 3.9. if you really want to chop it up try using handbrake to compress the original video file before using webm for lazys. handbrake's interface is simple enough for anyone to figure out if they haven't used it before
Good shit, anon!
>the desperation boost when a 520km/h ray is approaching
the goose was 100% cooked
>Toe Sucker
God, I love handles like this.
finishin people off at near finish line is so cathartic
just catbox it
My highest is 21 🙂
I just won three matches in a row
One was White Land II at the end if the GP (I lost the GP) then two 99 matches on Death Wind I and Mute City II
I am ready to kill myself
Well that was a ride, but I'm out of tickets. I've seen many here struggling and I want to see you guys win more, so ask me anything and I'll do my best to answer. I've gotten 1st in all GPs with all vehicles, so I should be able to answer almost anything. I'll also post a few videos of my time in Queen GP, sharing a few strategies and secrets.
SNES F Zero sucks
Give me F Zero GX 99 and then I'll care
Go drink the chemicals under your sink.
>Give me F Zero GX 99 and then I'll care
I don't know what people really expect from this. Do you literally just want GX with 99 players or 99's mechanics with GX's graphics?
They wouldn't make that a free* game
*with NSO subscription
f-zero gx with online mp needs elo matchmaking, speedrunner autists would dominate that game 100x harder than this with snaking and all the other autist tech
I would have agreed with you before playing it, now it’s my favourite f-zero.
>Queen GP
>Get queued up with a bunch of sweaty S2-10s
Im never getting any more GP cups am I?
Analog stick or dpad? What is best and why?
dpad because i say so
it really comes down to personal preference
probably analog since 99 supports it unlike SNES. the real advantage of analog is making tiny swerves around the black patches of goose victims
Do some practice mode and try out both, then see whichever you prefer. I've stuck with analog stick myself, I've found it useful for making turns.
Grats bro
i would love analog if i could adjust the tension like my xbox controller. its way too lose on the pro controller so i just use dpad
honestly wish i had the switch SNES controller just for the feel
I have a 8bitdo pro2 and the pro controller. Both analog as dpad have their advantages but I don't like switching midrace.
hell yeah there we go, got to White Land II with literal 0 chance of losing as long as I finished (and clutched out 1st anyway)
Falcon is such a satisfying machine to win with
good to see a falcon chad win
It’s my favorite machine! Getting wins on the others afterward was far easier but I’m going right back to Falcon for casual play. I think I’ll only try to win with Falcon when King League releases.
1st on Mute City I as a Stingray let's go!
It's wild that I absolutely hated this machine, but in my obsession to get a grand prix win, I've dumped so much time into practicing with it, and just generally using it, that I actually kind of like it now... I'm sorry Goosebros...
>but in my obsession to get a grand prix win
A stingray grand prix win, I should add. I've got a win with other machines.
That's alright, Goose will always be by your side. Spinning.
This is pretty much me, had been full on goose but swapped after trying to get better at the game and learn stuff better. Now I find myself wanting to stick with Stingray.
Duly noted on the Death Wind II boosts, thanks! And the bump boosting is also great advice, I've been trying to take advantage of it as much as I can. Has helped me learn better boost conservation.
I saw a player earlier named "PLAP PLAP" and I almost lost focus from laughter.
>player death mark in the refill pit
poor bastard
which 99 track gives goose a best chance at 1st?
big blue
>win race
>explode immediately after crossing the finish line
I'll take it.
>managed to get first place in the queens prix
awesome
Here's an example of Mute City II, with almost more nuances than I can count
>boost in healing because I know I won't need it, I have my route planned
>panic slow down but still get the best skyway (2 arrows + skip)
>drift right on jump to give room to dodge second jump because jump pad is slower than boost
>perfect the final corner knowing I will use a boost
This is essentially the perfect final lap, but most laps should be done this way as well. I normally take the left side of the circle because most others do (more sparks), plus it's easier to set up on the jump.
Pretty sure that "Poo" you stole first from is GrandPooBear. Nicely done.
I've seen Poo a few times in the lead-ish as Fox but I don't recall ever seeing him in the finals in GP, at least not top 3, or specifically beating me. There's only about 3 people I've raced that frick me up, and every single one is a Stingray because if luck is on their side, they win against all other craft. But Goose is extremely consistent and saves a ton of boost for the final lap to either overtake others or as insurance against tons of bumpers, something no other racer can do.
No one should avoid the first jump unless you have tons of surplus to double boost on that stretch (sometimes happens for Fox/Goose or if you just got a kill and you need to burn your boost). The only reason you should specifically avoid jumps is if you are boosting, because they will kill your speed. All racers should avoid the second jump and boost through gravel instead except "maybe" Stingray. If you need more sparks for the skip in the video, trudge through the dirt and fall back slightly if at all because Stingray has dirt resistance. If you don't and you need to burn your one boost for the lap, do the boost-dirt skip, avoid the jump, and fish for a bump from another player after the turn. Or boost after the final turn to increase your chances of scoring a KO, it hardly matters for Stingray.
Noted, thanks anon. Also holy moly that clip is cathartic
Very nice. Should Stingrays be avoiding both jumps if they're at max speed, or just the 2nd one?
>Golden Fox
I can never tell what you mean by this
I think he wants to suck your penis
Finally made it.
>mute the music
>put on Iron Maiden - Live After Death
>let loose the Goose
Yep, it's gaming time.
>2'12 white land ii
what the FRICK am i supposed to do
run through the electric things that don't bounce you like a man and boost after that to regain speed.
Cut through the pain fields like
said.
got all the decals and colors for goose except 99/gp rank #1 but holy frick that feels like a meaningless grind that i might switch back to stingray and unlock his shit next week
Got my first win. Wild Goose, Mute City II. I really wish I could play more often
In the end, didn't win the GP, but i'm happy today, won 3 times, and now have 6 victories overall.
One day i'll get there.
Bros... chat was right, Queen Cup is going to DESTROY Golden Fox, it's just way too hard to turn and not crash in this thing.
Trannie foxes will never be a queen
It's just way too fricking hard, man. It's too hard!!!!!!
It's over, I've finally mastered the Stingray.
is what I would say if I had the FRICKING BLACK PAINT JOB
Just win on Sand Ocean it's easy dude
Nobody ever votes for Sand Ocean
Clearly you dont' play enough.
>Play all week
>No wins
>Get 2 wins today
I play better on the new tracks I guess
the sweatlords haven't min/maxed the new maps yet
DEAR Ganker DIARY, IN FZERO 99 I WON TODAY
Bros, I actually just started crying
I was in first in the grand prix but just got ranked out on white land 1
I feel like such a worthless waste of human life
I will never see white land 2
Play Goose.
I was
Use the skyway.
I do
take those snow turns without accellerating, while turning and drifting
then boost afterwords. helps a lot
>hit a red bumper while in Power Down
>as Goose
>fricking LIVED
This thing is idiot proof
Fricking finally got a Falcon win. Six wins and at least one with each machine. Yeah, my best placement was only 3rd on a GP. Shut up.
>Yeah, my best placement was only 3rd on a GP. Shut up.
Better than any of my best placements on anything.
no one asked
Here is the Red Canyon skip. Only Stingray can do it without a boost, but using a boost to do this is pointless. Also it is not easy, and I have double digit crashouts on this jump. Note exactly how it's done. Hit the jump on the edge, 90 degree angle to the landing zone, drift to maximize distance (so you aren't traveling along the hypotenuse) and then swerve just before landing so you don't crash forward into the wall. This will fail entirely if you aren't going exactly 478 before the jump. If you do this during GP you are a madman and have my respect. Bonus points if you feel the bump from the wall behind (not damage but actual bump). That means you barely made it.
And no, landing on the jump at 478 from the previous jump doesn't seem to "always" work for other vehicles and it makes a risky jump turn into a risky and pure luck jump. Don't try it.
>Only Stingray can do it without a boost, but using a boost to do this is pointless.
That doesn't make any sense, ramps reset your speed and it's the same speed for everyone. Boosting over a ramp just wastes your boost and every car goes just as far because your top speed in the air is always the same.
The game clearly considers your speed when hitting the ramp to determine how high you go, and then sets your speed after. See video. Fox can't even make the jump going fully straight, no swerve. But now I've discovered there's a cue to whether or not you made the double jump. If you hear the landing sound, you're going to die, but if not, you did it. Going to see how well I can do this in 99s soon.
Resist the temptation to use the last 3% of your energy on a finish line boost, it doesn’t actually help and just kills you
I just think it looks sick!
Not if you have your spin up. Then the only issue is dodging red bumpers.
Boosting stops a spin early, so you have to spin after you boost, and I’ve died within a couple frames of this
>not ranking #1 every single game
Fricking disgusting get the frick out.
>get mute city I
>suicide on the first ramp
>ruin some people's games with lucky bumper
I didn't really care for racing before but this game turned me into a racist
>Won Knight and Mini GP with some time and effort
>Queen GP, do well for the first half just to get targeted by a bunch of chinks and S13 homosexuals resulting in pinballing or get consumed by the horde in Mute City II, not getting enough points to win in the long run
Its over.
Hey man, I’ve won two Queen GPs but I never managed a Knight one once. You’ll get there.
>he won a GP
Stop bragging
Knight GP 1st isn't bragging rights, its 5 rookie courses while playing against a bunch of people who are also getting familiar with the game.
Mini GP is just keep trying until you get lucky with the queue
Queen GP is constantly getting queued with S10+ gays who already won the gp just to needlessly stroke their autism
Having the Queen trophy is bragging rights
>Silence
>rookie track
Tell that to all the guys I smoked by 3+ seconds just by knowing how to do the S turns.
Death Wind I is a harder GP track than anything in Queen
>filtered by fricking Death Wind I over anything Queen has to offer
Literally press L and R to shift against the wind. Mute City II on Queen GP is hell with all the sweats trying to claw into top 10
Do you play Fox or something? That track is AIDS, you come out late in the funnel (which is guaranteed if you have low accel) and trying to claw ahead above rank 20 is a nightmare.
>bomb blasts me out of red canyon jumps final lap
>become lucky bumper
wish you could opt out of these things cos its just fricking insulting sometimes
What's everyones crash rate at?
I'm at 18% and feel like a noob. I crashed a lot on the way to my first win. I want to get it under 9%
I dunno what mine is but I bet it’s way high cause I just get lost in the sauce and aim for pole position or nothing.
Stingray here.
Almost 50%. But when I survive I have a 10%-chance to place first.
Just won my first GP out of 60 entries, feels good.
I don't have anything to say I just wanted to share this artwork a guy I know did
I think it's neat.
Stewart looks like Jerma
Nice.
>be at 99.9999999% yellow bar
>pick up yellow dot
>assume it filled up and activate it
>it didn't fill up
>boost into wall
>MFW got 2nd on Port Town 1
This track and Death Wind 1 and 2 are my b***hes. Yeah I know I did not get 1st but as long I get top 10 on a track, those tracks are my b***hes. I also finished a Queen League GP so I have all of QL tracks unlocked. Now to wait for King League and Ace League to come out.
>1st place is 30 points ahead of me in 2nd
>Basically just has to finish each race in order to win the whole thing
>fails White Land 1 jump
You can bet I took White Land 2 nice and easy
>got a new Decal
>Color I use instantly turns into indian flag
🙁
good morning sir
Why are Team Battles locked to Green vs. Pink instead of like Blue vs. Orange?
Blue vs yellow would be kino
Never liked this easy to play normie shit
Those imposible to complete snes rom hacks where more fun and less repetititve
your Silence and White Land II times sir?
I finally won a 99 race after so long. It's a tiny step but I'm proud of that.
>I don't play Falcon often
>but when I do I score 4 kills and beat everyone by 2 seconds each race
They need to have black bumpers explode after smoking for 5 seconds. First place seeing an old straggling smoking bumper lap 4 is completely unfair, and first place should never get advantages like this.
>Enter Queen GP
>Top 10 players are lv80 with 99+ wins and are pulling massive skips
The future of F zero 99 is pretty bleak for the average player ngl.
i didn't play till week 2 and already felt behind. im gettin better but god damn these people are NEETing the frick out of it
game needs GP for people with 0 wins and people with 1-100+ wins in their own pool of shit
I dont want to be handed free gp trophies, but its demotivating when you load into a Queen GP and see a bunch of 99+ trophies before Mute City II starts. Game needs a skill based queue system. What rank you are is who you should be competing with, A ranks play with A ranks, S ranks play with S ranks, S10 hikkineets should ONLY play with their own kind, unironically killing the spirit of the game imho.
I'm hoping they follow Tetris 99's "Tetris Maximus" approach and implement an Expert Cup or Champion's Circuit or whatever that filters people with a certain number of wins.
really they just shouldn't be locking skins behind GP wins in the first place
that should be a badge at most
Eh, I'm fine with the rewards for a 99 win and a GP win. It makes it feel like the effort might be worthwhile, whereas a badge simply doesn't feel as significant.
I got the black paint for everyone. I'm not going to bother actually sweating for the golds. I don't like the way they look and although I recognize that skill prevails there is far too much going on for me to want to bother trying to maintain balance in the universe for five races. Especially when I get grouped with xLunaiiire, G33ke, iceman92, et cetera. It is well and truly hopeless if you get a nolifer in your lobby. I'm mopping up the last few paints for Falcon by just getting prix points and then I can just play prlurely for the fun of it.
git gud
well if they did lobbies like so it would be easier to win essentially
I don't like bumpers on White Land II.
>lucky bumpers on silence and white land 2
It shouldn't even be allowed.
>fingers starting to hurt
>right bumper on controller is starting to occasionally drop inputs
>3 tickets that I am barely holding onto by constantly playing after each GP
Chuds take the left path in Mute City 2, and Chads take the right path.
I need those sparks anon, I will kill god for them
>chuds
>chads
Same word.
>Get two 1st, and three top 10s
>Still not good enough to get 1st in Queen GP
Frick you S# hikkineet gays. Unironically consider rope.
I'm having a terrible time with Queen GP. Finished 2nd my first try, but having trouble ever since. And I've been doing great on single 99 races, even getting consecutive wins on different courses, but it's not been translating well to the GP so far.
Stingray is VASTLY too weak. I get pushed around more with this thing than Fox and Falcon. The slightest touch of another racer sends me sailing off to the side, or even entirely backward. If I get so much as breathed on while I turn I lose all grip and go flying off on a mario kart drift. This is nonsense, holy frick it's total shit.
then get ahead of everyone else, dumbass
NTA but how are you supposed to do that when you start behind everyone due to the worst acceleration?
Hold drift when you boost at the start. You will usually bump into the person behind you, giving you yet another boost. This is usually enough to get you from 40-60, to 20-30. Do it again and you're in 10th.
Clearly you dunno what you're talking about, can't boost for shit when you're low on speed.
You absolutely can at the start of the line up. You have to hold on the gas when it counts down. The timing depends on exactly what machine you chose because it's tied to your acceleration stat. For ray, I think it's at the end of the second ellipsis/dot. Your accel isn't as good as everyone else's so you're quickly overtaken, but if you press and hold drift a tad after that boost, you'll be rammed by the other pilot you're going against, and you'll get a small boost forward from their momentum and they'll LOSE speed as well. This is a mandatory strat to get a good lead in the SNES version on master difficulty.
I mean drift, not boost. You can't get ahead of other people fast enough to bump off of them unless they're so moronic they don't do a starting boost.
>You can't get ahead of other people fast enough to bump off of them unless they're so moronic they don't do a starting boost.
That's more likely than you would think.
Betting on your opponents being moronic is never a good idea.
You also lose nothing from doing it as a counter point. It's more reliable if you're next to a fox.
What in the hell are you even talking about? Fox has the best acceleration.
It also has the worst speed cap. You are actually reading the car's stats when you select them, right?
What the frick does speed cap matter? You think you're going top speed in the first 0.5 seconds?
Stat scaling. If you and another person boost at the same time, a ray's boost is more powerful than any other racers. You'll move slightly farther. I'm trying to help you, my guy and you're just vehemently resisting all advice because you're mentally stuck in the 'can't win' zone.
I just won a race literally 4 minutes ago, and that's because I don't use moron tactics like "hope my opponent is moronic enough to press no buttons and let me bump off of him."
You were literally complaining how you can't get ahead. I doubt that.
Stingray can't get ahead easily, yes. Watch and professional Stingray player, you won't see any of them doing your stupid gimmick start. It doesn't typically get ahead until midway through the race.
Ok, refuse to try something new that costs you nothing. Have a good day, anon.
It's going to cost you the race when you bump into someone's ass and start even slower than you usually would.
Ok, anon, have a nice day.
it is in a race of 99 players
Can't when you MUST take a shit starting position and even fox's can bully your car. Seriously, the durability stat is an outright lie.
He only got first on White Land 2 because he got lucky. I was the guy in 2nd (on that track, specifically) and it just so happened that he barely caught up to me on lap 3, and when he bumped me it was as I was passing a bumper set. I got pushed into a red, and I finished 2nd anyway, not even a half second behind him. Dude just no lifes the game.
Meant for
Who the frick is Dotman and why did he just perfect this GP
I raced with that neet several times now. He just keeps getting 1sts over and over, dude knows everything about the game.
NEET who is good at this game and nothing else in life.
Cope lmao
Get over it, Dotman. Go win another set of races against new players to keep them from sticking with the game.
Okay I will lol
Not him, but can you and the rest of your kind frick off the Queen gp now? Some of us want to have a fair chance at winning the trophy.
Sorry, bro. I like beating up children too much, and since I'm beating you all, well...
Understandable, next time I see you Ill be sure to focus solely on crashing you out or deal lots of love taps. See you then.
>:3
Nice, can't wait for the series to stay dead. Then you'll truly have nothing.
i see often him in stream chats giving advice and such
man lives for f-zero
superplayer
>Go back to play SNES F-Zero out of nostalgia
>Get getting my shit pushed in on Death Wind 2 and couldn't beat it on Expert
>Finally realized the Death Wind 2 wind direction in F-Zero 99 was changed from the original SNES version
Holy frick the SNES version is so fricking cancer I wonder what other changes to the tracks Nintendo made .
The big thing that makes SNES F-Zero difficult is that your machine is made out of cardboard and the slightest breeze will turn it into a pinball.
I thought the physics between 99 and SNES FZero were the same? That it was the GBA games that had different physics.
No, the feedback for hitting other machines is drastically reduced in 99. Hitting a red/blue bumper is closer to what hitting any machine in SNES feels like.
If 99 had the same physics as on SNES it would be unplayable and literally turn into a bumper car simulator where every car is an air hockey puck.
sounds like a good time to me
>Nintendo release the "Family Computer" as a way to bring familes together
>the families: FUUUUUUCK FRICKFRICKFRICK SHIT FRICKKKK FUUUUUUUUUCK!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS? GOD FRICKING DAMN IT!!!!
when are they adding ban list to this game so i can play a map that's not mute city I
I finally got the color unlock for getting 99 top 25 place finishes as the Goose. Maybe now it's time to switch to Falcon.
When do I need to start accelerating with stingray to get a boost at the start? It seems no matter when I time it I stall out or just don't go as fast as other stingrays.
Falcon needs a buff
Not really.
Yes really
As it stands it’s racing on hard mode
Being hard isn't the same as needing a buff.
falcon is already pretty buff man
why can blue bumpers move onto the pit stop? also while we're at it why do red bumpers exist at all?
Red bumpers exist so people can't break away from the crowd and get an easy cruise to victory. Learning to outmaneuver them is key to winning.
I have been in 30th place before and have had to dodge reds, the argument that "they inconvenience first" doesn't hold up
If you're having trouble dodging the scant few reds that make it that far back, you've got problems.
My point isn't that i can't dodge them that far back, it's that they should never be there in the first fricking place
>Be in 1st
>Drive poorly, explode and die
>Drive well, create problems for those trailing you
What's the problem here
>be in first
>easily maneuver around the blue and red bumpers since it's just you
>don't be in first
>clusterfrick bumps you into red & blue bumpers
It feels like too many people are just playing to be kamikazes trying to purposely impede the progress of anyone they can without caring about even finishing the race
dealing with the clusterfrick will make you a better racer anon
>Has never been in first and seen how bad it can be
I'll say this much, people aren't joking when they say to utilise the practice mode. In relentlessly attempting to beat the time on White Land II it became incredibly easy on the Stingray for me, and the only thing I had to fight on that track was bumpers when it came to this grand prix. Anyway, this was finally my grand prix win with the Stingray and I've really come to appreciate it a lot, despite absolute hating it in the beginning.
Now all that's left is to demean myself and get my grand prix win with the Fox...
f-zero should have blue shells
>good enough to finish a GP with falcon
>too bad to get first place
Am I gimping myself by using Falcon?
No. Falcon is bad compared to the rest, but not unwinnably bad.
How come I can’t win?
Falcon is a bit of an odd one to win with. He doesn't have a set-in-stone game plan, unlike every other vehicle. He has to make decisions on the fly. Usually, you want to try to set up a situation where you can steal first on the last lap. But in other cases, like say you get skyway early, you might need to steal it early and maintain it until the end. It can be surprisingly complicated, make sure you watch and manage your resources carefully.
not him
but i dont play falcon
but my issue is having my spark collecting line up correctly to even have one on the 4th lap
Sometimes it just doesn't happen, and that's why you've gotta keep an eye on it. If you don't think you're going to have a skyway in time, you instead need to boost at very optimal times to keep up with the lead.
Umm, Goosesisters? Does something seem a little off about our stats to you?
>violent criminal
>green and yellow
>Namekian
We really should have noticed sooner...
Got 3rd place in my GP as Falcon. I placed in the top 10 in all 5 races, but it wasn't enough to overcome the top 2 Goose players. Won't keep me from trying, though
Godspeed anon, never give up.
>Didn't even place top 10 in all 5 races
>Finished GP in 2nd
>1st won by a shit ton of points
I dreamed they added the satellaview machines and they were all moronic powercreep that ruined the game
what do you think the accuracy of this premonition is?
They’re more likely to add just the BS tracks than any of the machines. Every new car would need a full set of decals to match the original four and I can't see that happening
Depends on if they're paid DLC or not
Low because, unfortunately, I don't think we're going to get more racers. Don't get me wrong - I HOPE we get more racers, but I'm not optimistic. Keep in mind this is a free-to-play title to promote Nintendo Online. DLC will be minimal, if at all (beyond the already announced new tracks)
What’s the best places to start a skyway boost
I must win as falcon
Red Canyon right before the jump pads, you can skip straight to the ending if you timed it correctly
64th on the first race…
Should I just give up?
64th on your first race isn't at all bad... but if you're genuinely asking if you should "give up" after one race, then the answer is a hard yes.
No. The rest is still good practice.
yeah it's over
with what machine?
>final lap of MC2
>skyway drops me off at the last turn right onto a red bumper
>knocks me into the wall and I die
At this point if you haven't been skyway'd into a red bumper you haven't been playing enough
Yeah, that's pretty shit. You should have invulnerability coming down. I've had it fling me into a wall a few times as well.
The only bad thing about SBMM is seeing the whiners oppose it
the game already has that with the rival system
That’s not the same thing
>SBMM
In English.
Skill based matchmaking
Ah. Yeah, no downsides to that, it would make the game infinitely more enjoyable.
The only real problem with matchmaking is that it's never skill based. Also if all the neets had a heart attack (me included) the game would be dominated by middle aged nips
For Fire Stingray, is the general strategy to conserve for the first 2 laps, using your higher top speed to keep towards the ~20-40s, and then skyway + burn all your conserved power to try and take first in the last lap?
Just picked up Stingray and that's what I've been doing so far and it feels like I either do great, was even able to get a 1st place, or I can't break through the pack at the end and do worse than I usually average on other machines.
Also it feels like there's a hidden weight stat that's different than durability, because it feels like I get pushed around more as Stingray, even though I'm supposedly more durable than Fox and Falcon.
No, you just described Goose
Stingray wants to get a lead ASAP and keep it. It's not very good at stealing them.
Stingray, for whatever reason, just seems to be heavily affected by other cars. I'm starting to think it's durability may be bugged. No explanation other than a hidden weight stat. I sometimes come into the recovery put from the starting ramp with almost half health, usually around 70th.
Any tips to get kills?
Havent finished 1st once but at this point I dont care all I want to do is KILL
You cannot force kills, you can only be an opportunist.
boost spinning is more effective than just spinning
Most likely spots to get kos would be in the middle to end of the pack, where all the shitters belong (such as yourself), near the finish line as well where everyone is low on energy, they have to be pretty much smoking and blinking white to actually ko
Bully the ever loving frick out of people with the Wild Goose. It's so much fun. You get a badge for 5 KO's in a single race and I wear that with pride.
>boost and spin together to deal max damage
>ride the edge of the pit area and keep people out
>tap the shoulder buttons and nudge people next to you into bombs/bumpers
>perfectly time a skyway to drop me just before the MC1 finish line
>land on and KO the Golden Fox in first place during my decent
Eat shit, fricker.
I CAN'T GET PAST WHITE LAND I
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
you can do it even if you frick up in every way possible
Holy shit dude, that's insane
>barely evaded the whirrr
Goddamn. Never give up indeed lol
Hold up or spin when landing from a jump. PLEASE!
Isn't it down?
white land I gp is so much better than death wind I gp. I ranked out way too many times on death wind because of missing just one fricking boost pad
BUM
BA-DUM
BUM
BA-DUM
Still no wins, but I'm not giving up. A wired connection seems to have helped with the desync issues so things feel better at least. Still struggling to get back to actually placing in the top 10 consistently like I did a week or two ago. It feels like everyone got better since launch except me.
Warms my heart to see other people post Big Blue love in my absence.
Had a decent shot at winning the Queen League but it’s a fricking lucky bumper that fricks it up
>S rank
>level 45
>falconchud
>no wins
Kill me
Sometimes I wonder if i'm the only moron going into the final race of a GP still carrying the same health as the default.
It happens to me consistently.
I've won GPs like that.
I really need to just get the kill on those smoking grey bumpers that sometimes hang around the refill when I dont need the refill.
it's KO power bonus is practically a catch-up mechanic for players that can't easily break away and lead. if you play well you won't find easy KOs. but yeah any grey smoker should be attempted
>GP White Land I
>I hit THREE mines at the beginning and pinball out, last place and very behind before the race even starts
>get 1st Place
HOW. AND I GOT 2ND PLACE ON WHITE LAND II HOLY SHIT. Shame my placement was crap in the first three races but man
did f-zero graphics actually blow little boomers minds in 1990?
mode 7 was the frickin shit. you have no idea
Unironically yes. It was a SNES launch title and the Mode 7 effects were pretty crazy at the time
It was so revolutionary that it inspired people to make Daytona USA.
Nah i always thought f-zero, mario kard, starfox, pilotwings looked super crappy.
Super Contra and Castlevania on the other hand...damn those were some good ass looking games.
Those are also games that make use of mode 7. The spinning room in Super Castlevania IV, in particular, looks amazing, and wouldn't be possible without mode 7.
Yoshi island also used mode 7 and it looked great, we need to go back
Yeah, the spinning and stretching sprites were ducking mind-blowing at the time.
it was way too hard for me to play as a kid and my dad's gamer friend couldn't handle it either. i didn't think it was impressive because I couldn't read the graphics properly, I kept thinking there was something wrong with the TV because mute city's background looked like it was full of static.
>can’t win GP because multiple NEETS are hogging everything for leaderboard wank points
Can’t of don’t even want to play at this point
Starting so late and trying to get all the colors was a mistake
I was gonna say you don't need to win a GP but I forgot you do need to do it for the gold skin for each machine
I'm glad I did it on Knight League because outside of a sweetspot where Japs are going to sleep and burgers are not awake/busy the opposition's been pretty tough. I've won a cup with Falcon and can probably do it but i'm kinda feeling lazy.
Good luck out there lol
I just want to get everything on falcon because it looks the coolest
It wasnt bad during knight GP, you were usually matched with players in your general level (level 1 - 30s if you were ~lv10)
All my attempts at Queen GP thus far had at least 10-20 players with ranks such as S4 , S6, S8 , S fricking 10 who are lv60-80 (Im rank S lv42). You have to play PERFECTLY to get the trophy now. I got two 1sts and three top 10s and only got 2nd place overall, with a S10 neet taking over my 1st for the last race.
Next update needs a better skill based queue system or I and many others will just quit.
>Next update needs a better skill based queue system
It doesn't even have to be anything too complex. Just separate the giga autismos from everyone else
Base it on leaderboard points. The more wins you get each week, the stronger your opponents are. The people who keep gaining points when already at the top are the actual most skilled. It does mean the start of each week will be chaos though, but that can be fun if it's not the norm
S+ and up should simply be their own league. We shouldn't be matched with anyone S or lower.
Those ranks feel mostly arbitrary though. I only got my first win after I reached S rank. As long as you consistently manage to beat rivals you rank up pretty fast, even if you don't manage to win anything. It needs to be separated by wins because those are the autists that are racking up the numbers
just move all the people with a GP win under their belt into a new tier. Call it "Master League" or something.
>rank S3, do grand prix as wild goose
>beat S5+ rivals first race
>next races keep giving me B+ and A+ rivals until the final
>barely get any increase for beating them, literally no increase to the rank bar because one race only had me beat one rival
Good old skill based matchmaking.
Can you imagine the infighting and machine gayging in a full new f zero game with over 30 machines if this game with just 4 of them has so much shitposting over who uses which?
It wouldn't actually change anything, people will only ever shitpost what's considered the best or easiest to use.
What's considered the broken machine of GX?
AHAHAHA I FINALLY GOT MY FIRST W AS BLUE FALCON
NEVER GIVE UP FALCONCHADS
Final won a Queen GP, and also getting first in Whiteland II for the first time!
Now the only course I have yet to get a win is the first Whiteland.
Nobody can lie to me. I refuse to believe that red and grey bumpers don't sometimes just decide to dive into you. It's so fricking shit.
HOLY SHIT I JUST WANT TO PRACTICE WHITE LAND STOP VOTING DEATH WIND II YOU wiener SUCKING FRICKING homosexualS
>Mute City I AGAIN
The vote system fricking sucks
more like cute city!!!
Dang, closest I've been to winning. If only I placed a little higher in the first 3 races!
Why is it so hard to understand? If you see Lunaiire, frick him over ASAP. I did my best to screw him over but fricking Golden Crutch in Big Blue is just unstoppable.
i got 2 wins on him in a gp, does that count?
Goose and Stingray are unplayable with these shortened recharge zones on the Queen Cup tracks. You can't even afford to boost once per lap anymore
Goose and Stingray are fine, They just need to nerf fox's "touch a healing zone at all and get full health".
Wrong, just won my first Queen GP with Goose, and have been getting lots of wins today.
>Lucky bumper in the magnet area.
That's cheating.
>lucky bumper knocks me out of the pit three laps in a row
hurts a little
Ive never seen this many people play f-zero, something tells me this is going to be a weekend kind of game
Never been interested in f-zero before but seeing how many people are liking this, I might honestly play it and try out some older f-zero games. Hope this leads to the franchise getting a new 3d title and getting a big burst in popularity like pikmin is going through.
It's free as long as you have NSO, might as well give it a try, weekends are extra active because we get Grand Prixes every 30 minutes.
Death Wind 2 first booster is fricking hell to turn into because of the way turning gets suddenly sharp
Does this game play by Mario Kart rules where your only chance of victory is breaking away at the start or else you're at the mercy of the clusterfrick?
Anyone here has a real rival in this? Like someone you casually meet and want to make sure they don't win or is constantly spin attacking you while frontrunning?
Not really but I like the guy named 6 papayas?
I feel like Mew2King has it out for me, guy is relentless whenever i find him. Hate his guts because he's always spin attacking me and ramming me near the pit area so i don't get any boost back.
i like how it's phrased as a question
me too
They really need to fix not being able to leave a GP if you crash out right at the end of the race, because my only option is closing and reopening the game and if I do that, I lose the EXP points I could have gotten during the Prix, along potentially missing on joining another lobby on time before the time runs out.
>mew2king using a red skin to disguise as a red bumper
melee compgays are a blight
>Go to see how this guy plays.
>Literally just spams boost until he dies.
Is this how Fox mains really play this game?
No, only M2K because he is autistic about "only wins"
Well given he keeps fricking blowing up on anything other than Mute City, it seems like he's just plain autistic without the winning part happening.
correct
Yeah, if you get ahead of the pack it's basically a free win. If you die on the first lap you start over again
Fricking Lucky Bumpers I swear to god, I almost crashed at the end of Port Town I, but still managed a 1st Place.
>Finally got the Queen GP with a close fricking finish in overall scores
Time to relax
>got bumped going around a corner into the wall into a bomb and crash out in the middle of the GP
>"guess I gotta grind more tickets!"
>Mute City I
Not having as much fun post Queen League, it's getting to that point where shits just making me mad instead of laughing.
I only grind tickets in pro tracks, not only is it faster but its not Mute City I over and over again
>make it to white land 2 for the first time
>crash out on the final lap because i missed the jump by literal pixels
ive never wanted to just give up as much as i do right now. i was so fricking happy to have actually made it there in the first place only for it to just be ripped away from me from something so fricking stupid. the only reason i was even able to make it past red canyon was because of race 1 giving me an unprecedented 3 ko's
hold down back and never give up.
well i actually managed to finish a gp for the first time, 10th place though which is pretty fricking miserable
>33 / 26 / 9 / 3 / 13
How's 10th miserable you mook
If you're not in first, you suck >Golden Fox penis.
i guess youre right, i have a horrible habit of getting way too hard on myself sometimes. ill just have to keep trying until i win something i guess
10th out of 99 players is respectable. Keep at it anon!
Don't think that, just reaching White Land II alone is praiseworthy, you already do better than 79 poor souls by reaching that point. Good luck in your next GP.
Bruh, top 10 is great, don't be like that.
>10th place though which is pretty fricking miserable
I have yet to even finish a Grand Prix as I keep getting filtered on the 4 course. I still haven't unlocked Silence
If "Mah" is one of you, gg. You were giving me a real run for my money. Pretty unreal we tied.
I've been there anon, it sucks but don't give up! When Knight league was up there was probably 3 times I beefed the mine shortcut -> jump pad and crashed out in GP where I was doing well.
Why are people level 0? Also, what are the boost colors at 65 and 85? I'd love for at least one to make me actually want to change from the default blue.
Will big hand and big foot appear on dlc?
God the later tracks are so much more fun.
Baffles me morons still mash vote Mute City/Big Blue
HOLY SHIT I'M SO FRICKING HAPPY
I still can't believe this happened, I even took White Land II as peaceful as possible and still ended 2nd. Never give up bros, never give up. My hands are still trembling as I write this, how did I do so well?
Damn nice report card, well done lad!
Very nice! And ya love to see that total goose domination.
nice
no one asked
t. fox gay
>Finally get 1st with Falcon
>It's a GP so I don't get the color.
Black skin is worthless anyway, win a GP.
That means you're on your way, anon. If it happened once, it can happen again.
just win the GP then
Glad I have all of the black skins already.
>butthole in 1st with the golden fox
>twitch username in bio
>pass him on the end of the final lap
>he crashes out trying to pass me
lmaoooo enjoy 75th place
I was so close to killing Lythero the other day but someone else did it just before. I love killing streamers lol
>the twitch streamer showed up again
>alongside mew2king
>the former crashed out the same exact way as last time
>mew2king couldn't stand up to the might of the Stingray
Roundhouse kick streamers into red bumpers.
i hate you incel drivers so much
Holy frick I got a Red Canyon win, didn't think it would ever be possible. I think my best score in that race before that was 16th.
Frick anyone who complained about the jump on White Land II being shortened. I was in first place because nobody knows how to drive the course yet, got lightly tapped by a bumper and lost all my speed before doing the jump and crashed.
should have boosted lol lmao pwned
FRICK YOU THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO BOOST IT WAS LITERALLY RIGHT BEFORE THE JUMP
You lose your boost speed while you are in the air by the way
You should boost after exiting that last ice turn before the jump.
I always do that, but the bumper was in the wrong spot and sapped my speed right before the jump.
Right after you exit the multi-u-turn hell hole, you can boost, hold R and let let go of the gas to turn more tightly. And of course, do the same without boosting around the ice patch before the jump.
How the hell are you supposed to get <2:05 on Whiteland 2? That seems completely ridiculous
play like this
>that skip at the end
Oh shit, I was genuinely only a second short after my best tries. I think that might be what makes the difference
Not the anon you're replying, but thanks for that. I really need to sit down and just repeatedly practice this stage.
You can do it! Might take a few runs but it's not as hard as it may seem at first. Stingray is actually really good for this track.
There were anons in this thread saying Stingray could not afford to boost after the hairpins. They were morons.
If you aren't boosting after those, you ain't winning. You dont need the boost after the uturn in the icy area.
homie its frickin practice, theres no homies there to bump you
There is no world in which you 1) don't cut those hairpins, and 2) boost immediately afterwards to regain your speed. IT IS THE BIGGEST TIME SAVE ON THE ENTIRE MAP.
nope
The world where you barely have any boost unless you sandbag for a skyway,
which you should since if you get that far you should already have the rank points to cruise and win with a 10th. You are objectively correct that it is STRICTLY necessary to boost there on Stingray if you want to play fair, but slowing down and getting even a single skyway is enough to have a massive life lead you can snag 1st with all the same.
Barely got it with a 2:03.70. The jump was honestly all i needed to eke out that last little bit. On top of some lucky bumps through the hairpins
Wait, I'm fricking moronic. It's 2:02, what a drag
I'd never do that jump unless the 1st Place was on the line, I'm afraid of myself screwing it up, I already risk it enough by doing the gap jumps on Red Canyon and White Land I.
Am I the only one who starts playing like a braindead monkey the second he gets a kill and a full bar? I swear to god I always squander it by boosting into walls and red bumpers.
Try turning.
>red bumpers.
Red Bumpers have magnets in them, I swear to god. I always manage to hit them despite seemingly avoiding them. FRICK red bumpers.
You are definitely not alone, I used to be like that but I've tried to wean off that behavior, it costed me way too many victories or got me killed . Best to just treat it as a bonus and carry on with business as usual. Play like normal and then expend extra meter in the final lap when it's safe / you can do so without slamming into shit.
Any tips on how to actually get good at this game? I keep placing at around 50
Learn to drive unlike >652663523
practice the courses. dead serious. you will feel better when you learn where the best use of skyways are but if you practice a course without all that other bullshit in the way and get used to where to boost, you will get better placings alone off of that.
White Land II is so calming. I don't even give a shit if I finish last. I'm just happy to survive the GP.
Still, 7th place doesn't hurt.
Posting this gem from one of the previous threads, hope no one got BOOM’d by these heheheh