Huh. It actually wasn't that bad.
It's definitely massively incomplete and it took me a whole year to clear it because I took long breaks but finishing it off I actually enjoyed some of the cinematic moments near the end.
I played it day one as well and the Royal edition changes really fricking helped.
Most people played during retail. Retail was fricking horrible.
Royal Edition is apparently very much improved.
I've only played royal edition. It's broken. You come with the best sword in the game at the start. Also there's a FF14 area with a boss that you can grind to max level with in a few hours.
It's fricked jim.
>You come with the best sword in the game at the start.
so they made the game even more casual?
and I thought using items at 0 HP was easy enough
Its unresponsive as frick on pc. Literally unplayable
Works on my PC.
Ngl I'm debating on reading the book to close it off but reception is very mixed on it. I think Ignis alt ending is a much better palette finisher. I like to imagine Noct fricked the shit outta iris and got over Luna in that universe.
the Ignis alt ending is nice fan service but to treat it like its the real ending is pretty shit, it was clearly done to scale back on their original bummer ending
the game needed a LOT more middle content, we got front and back content instead
I treat it more as a golden epilogue. I know people get autistic about it when they have a Hollywood ending when everyone's happy again but it does feel somewhat cool to know in one timeline everything's still kinda fricked but alright. I agree though. You can tell they were planning some world of ruin type stuff after chapter 9 but it failed.
>Ngl I'm debating on reading the book
just get a pdf and read episodes Aranea and Luna since they're semi-canon and expand on both their characters while providing their inner-monologue which is really interesting. Aranea's reminiscing about the Empire's good old days and her hatred of Ardyn and Luna hating the shit out of being an oracle because it's the most insanely difficult occupation in the world while struggling forward because of her sense of duty is great to read
episode Ardyn is exactly the same as the game and episode Noctis is fanfic-tier garbage
>inb4 barry
Why is Ganker like this anyways
>"Why is Ganker full of autism?"
This question is shaped by its own answer.
The main villain filtered me. I can't get invested enough to hate him. Furthermore I was looking into having Lunafreya in my party because she looked cool only to get the dissapointing "plot twist" at the middle and that was my final straw and dropped it.
Sucks too because it started really really comfy, just some dudebros hanging and having a good time. They should have kept the tone instead of going full emo
>The main villain filtered me. I can't get invested enough to hate him.
he's literally jesus
god, what a stupid Retcon
he literally tells you when you're getting absorbed into the crystal, he's not lying, and this was before the dlcs and shit, there's no retcon
it's just that the gods wanted only one oracle or you can believe ardyn in that they just hated him
>he literally tells you when you're getting absorbed into the crystal
he tells you he was a king, not LITERALLY JESUS
>it's just that the gods wanted only one oracle
and that was Luna. I do stress the WAS part
>or you can believe ardyn in that they just hated him
why would the player want to suddenly believe Ardyn by the end of the game with all the shit he did. That is like trusting Loghain at the end of DA:O
you do realize that all final fantasy games are gnostic in nature, right?
what is gnostic?
and that still doesn't negate that Ardyn = Jesus is a dumb retcon
lurk moar
>In an age long past, an incurable scourge ravaged mankind. A tiny menace that twisted men into monsters, the likes of which you've seen. In Lucis lived a savior that could cure the afflicted. His body would come to host myriad daemons, that countless lives be spared. But a jealous king, one not yet chosen by the Crystal, ostracized and demonized this healer of the people. Making a true monster of him. I gave you my name earlier, but you should know that it was not the name given to me at birth. Ardyn Lucis Caelum is my proper name.
This is Ardyn's monologue when Noctis gets eaten by the crystal. It hasn't been changed in any update, he was always meant to be broken Jesus.
>MUH GNOSTICISM
what is gnostic?
Gnosticism is a somewhat obscure religion that basically says the god who created the material world and humans is a false god called the demiurge, and that we need to reach the real God by transcending our plane of existence (the matrix, basically) and piercing through our false existence. A lot of JRPGs do use themes of Gnosticism, but not all of them. And some people just see a game that depicts gods or religion in a somewhat negative or grey light and think "Whoa duuude, this is like totally Gnosticism!! God is actually le evil duuuude!" It's honestly cringe how seriously people take it, though it does make for cool storytelling and themes when it's actually used.
everything you typed is wrong
>Gnosticism is a somewhat obscure religion that basically says the god who created the material world and humans is a false god called the demiurge, and that we need to reach the real God by transcending our plane of existence (the matrix, basically) and piercing through our false existence. A lot of JRPGs do use themes of Gnosticism, but not all of them. And some people just see a game that depicts gods or religion in a somewhat negative or grey light and think "Whoa duuude, this is like totally Gnosticism!! God is actually le evil duuuude!" It's honestly cringe how seriously people take it, though it does make for cool storytelling and themes when it's actually used
and how does this relate to 15?
not seeing the Jesus allegories here
>not seeing the Jesus allegories here
Adryn and the Starscourge, not going to simplify it any further than that, use your own brain and imagination
>Adryn and the Starscourge
that's not Jesus
Stella being tacked on and looking low quality is a perfect allegory for the shit tacked onto XV to try and make it a salvageable game. Like the Ardyn = Jesus bullshit these idiots are trying to push
>fixed in Royal Edition through the Armiger Unleashed
that's just button mashing, not worth the asking price of the Royal Edition.
Look at this Dynasty Warriors ass move list for this $15 upgrade
>You combat as a squad
not at launch
calm down buddy
>Stella being tacked on and looking low quality is a perfect allegory for the shit tacked onto XV to try and make it a salvageable game.
The entire game and its marketing is Square Enix trying their hardest to pretend that a bunch of Lego blocks hot glued together on a short notice were in fact a planned in advance design.
>savior
>healer
>beloved by the people
>betrayed by one closest to him
I guess you could also see him as John the Baptist if he hated Jesus (Noctis).
Do you know literally anything about Jesus?
not really. Not religious but I have seen the Jesus pics in his DLC
Since when did Jesus went out on a rampage and goes out of his way to deny/kill god?
>and how does this relate to 15?
It doesn't. That was my point. I was criticizing the other anon for seeing shit that isn't there. A lot of JRPGs do use Gnostic themes, but XV is not one of them. Xenoblade, as this anon explained
uses Gnostic themes. He actually explained Gnosticism way better than I did.
I will now read Reddit-saw man
That's a reductivist perception of gnosticism.
First of all, the Demiurge is not God, Gnosticism explicitly differentiates between the Demiurge and God, the Demiurge is the being that controls the material, or rather, shapes the material to prevent mankind from reaching the world of ideas, where the real God exists.
Second, not all interpretations of Gnosticism establish the Demiurge as inherently evil, take Xenoblade for example, each Xenoblade game has one or more Demiurges, but only one of them is outright malignant, Zanza, and he is immediately contrasted with the benevolent Meyneth.
Xenoblade 2 has the Architect who is well-meaning but has become despondent due to the new humanity he created still fostering wars and lusting for power over others.
Xenoblade 3 again contrasts Z, who technically means well but is completely psychotic due to his crippling fear of abandoning the Endless Now, with A, the avatar of the world.
You're not to suppose to hate him. I do think Episode Ardyn works much better if you chose to submit to fate rather than resist it. Having a schrodingers motive is ballsy even if his motivation is a bit of both.
ardyn is literally punished jesus, made to make you question if the gods were wrong
You are meant to hate Bahamut instead.
I hate that the final DLC was cancelled because I wanted justice.
>You are meant to hate Bahamut instead.
but only after the Ardyn DLC before that retcon, he was a good game
good English
sorry, medication
but only after the Ardyn DLC. before that retcon, he was a good guy
exactly. The Jesus imagery is dumb
It can be stupid sure, but it's not a retcon. This concept art predates the development of the DLC.
I don't see Jesus here
Wasn't he lifted as a hero and then the gods jebaited him and cast him aside for his brother that didn't have starscourge and have his brother cuck him?
He literally lays it out himself in game, see
It is that bad, and even worse. What a boring, bland, empty world, with characters spouting the same empty phrases. Royal changes didn't really do much. Wow, you can play as the other morons, yipee. The only other notable shitstain on FF was 13.
Samegay
homosexual game
But enough about Baldur's Gay 3
Do you think SE is gonna re-release this game again on PS5/XBX?
A little gameplay revamp would be nice
they spent like 2-3 years patching it with free content and giving it dlc
Then cancelled planned DLC when they realized that the return on their investment to save FFXV's image wasn't doing as good as they hoped
Won't happen, PC version remains the best version
I think the shift to XVI was a way of leaving 2010's SE in the past, this applies to XIII which is either getting a remaster pretty soon or never getting it. XV does run at 4K/60 on the PS5, so there's that.
XV DOES NOT run at 4k 60 on PS5. It runs through the PS4 Pro backcompat settings which I believe are either (via the graphics modes available)
900p x 60 FPS (drops very rarely)
1080p x 30 FPS (most stable mode)
1440p-1800p via checkerboard rendering @ 30fps (has massive stuttering and microstuttering issues and looks fricking terrible as a result)
There's also a bug specifically running FFXV on PS5 involving the textures constantly reloading, so any scene where you're talking to someone or up close to a model in say a cutscene, you can notice the textures fade out then reload every couple of seconds
Ah, that sucks, must've misread it somewhere. Anyhow, the PC port is terrible too so... yeah
>Anyhow, the PC port is terrible
If you're using a PC acquired during the PS4's reign, yeah
It has it's small share of problems like how it supports only version 1.0 of DLSS, but it also has lots of pc exclusive graphical options if you have an nvidia gpu to make it look pretty amazing even today
The PC version USED to be bad after they updated the game with that online avatar feature, but players realized it caused massive hangs in performances and sometimes crashes, so they actually reverted it the patch. It's fine now
OP here. Kinda disagree. It's jaggy unless you use a 4k monitor. Memory leak crashes are also not fun.
Yeah thats what I was referring to, the memory leak crashes got addressed when the patch was reverted a while ago
Wait seriously? They fixed it? I mean I was at chapter 9 and didn't crash but I assumed it was because I wasn't going through the open world stuff.
Barry would coom if that happened
It's trash anon. It's flaming hot garbage.
the "changes" made me not want to give this a second try since the combat is still crap.
The the Ardyn DLC ruined everything to the point that it needed a novel to fix it
I guess THEY found the thread now. Sometimes you guys suck so much ass it's unreal.
If they just didn't spend so much development hell in the gameplay elements and kept it simple, this would've been a great game. But no Square Enix really gotta reinvent the gameplay wheel every fricking 5 seconds.
So is the book worth reading?
God no
It's a cool game. The whole road trip vibe and having to find a place to camp the nights early on was really nice. It also looks good, had all the fan service, and the only things not fantastic about it are the combat and the unfinished bits
The bros are probably the best part of the whole game, Gladio kinda goes downhill after his sidequest given how b***hy he gets but Ignis and Prompto get much better after their roles get expanded, Ignis' sacrifice and Prom's backstory should have been in the main game, Noctis isn't really as whiny or annoying as people make him out to be, at no point does he reject his duty, mostly he's just bland because he doesn't have a lot going apart from his glacial relationship with Lunafreya.
The real issue is the story and how it is written, the game expects you to have watched the prequel movie so it immediately assaults you with a cutscene and a ton of terminology that won't make a lick of sense if you haven't and it never really bothers to explain any of it, even location names like Insomnia and Tenebrae are thrown around willynilly without any explanation as to what each of them mean.
Also, progression is really wonky, not only do objectives change randomly whenever you come accross something new but it feels like the characters are just stumblind into major quests instead of having them organically arise, the way the game shifts from finding the tombs and the kings' weapons to finding the summon spirits is particularly jarring, you spend the first few hours thinking that collecting the weapons and reclaiming the capital will be the main quest, but then arrive at the city of bulldykes and randomly encounter Ifrit and now this is the main quest and the game just relegates the weapons to sidequests.
And of course there's the "Hold X to win" gameplay, the empty map and the sporadic sidequests, you can play the pocket version on your phone or Switch and legit miss on nothing of value other than the Terra Wars DLC.
>And of course there's the "Hold X to win" gameplay
fixed in Royal Edition through the Armiger Unleashed (though you need to find all royal weapons first which is dumb as hell)
The logo change has gotta be one of my most favorite FF part.
>ctrl+f jesus 8
Perfect game for trailer trash.
There any good hard mode mods for the windows version? I enjoyed XV when I played it around launch (despite its obvious flaws) but man it really needed a hard mode, who the frick makes a game where you can phoenix down yourself.
i tried playing the game without leveling up and it was still piss easy, you have to do an itemless run if you want any challenge
You combat as a squad
Did older noctis change voice actors in the Japanese dub or is it the same guy? Sounds so much different.
same dude, it's because Japanese VAs can have range
this guy is also Noctis' JP VA:
it's not that bad, certainly better than 12 or 13. the fishing sidequest is outstanding.
one thing that pissed me off is that it's the one game i have that basically can't use the suspend feature on xbox one. if you're in the middle of a dungeon and need to pause, the game basically shits itself if you come back the next day. maybe that's fixed on new gen consoles.
Nah it's trash.
compared to FFXVI it is good
Barry won
The best and comfies part of the game was by far the first couple of hours when it's just a gang of bros fricking around in the desert with their busted car, and that's legit what the entire game should have been about. I couldn't give less of a shit about Ardyn, the royal blood, the 10 year time-skip and all that bullshit.
finding out that was the only actual world map really killed the game for me. the game managed to emulate the more boring parts of a road trip by making the road stops 90% gas stations.
What was Ardyn before the retcon?
I feel like the Ardyn downfall didn't end so well. He seemed to have done a 180 in not really caring about Somnus descendents to BURN INSOMNIA DOWN. I think the first attack to Insomnia was kinda a bad plot point. It should've taken place on the actual fall of Insomnia.
I cant believe they stole noctis design for shadow heart.
Now I can't unsee it. For frick sakes man. Why? She's like the only non-frog, non-red, non-murderous psycho women in the party.
Why was Somnus such a dick and entrapping Ardyn for thousands of years? I get he was jealous but dude what the frick.
You think Regis or Noctis could just talk Ardyn down?
>Why was Somnus such a dick and entrapping Ardyn for thousands of years?
probably did it on Bahamut's orders
>You think Regis or Noctis could just talk Ardyn down?
doubt it because Ardyn would see them as mindless puppets of Bahamut
based fujimoto with the versus reference
>Huh. It actually wasn't that bad.
Yes it was, it was shit, and I played the Royal Edition.
Be mad
about what