its dlc practice is one of the worst i've seen, have people fight over which of their favorite nostalgia character gets in when it was all pre determined from the lisences nintendo bought.
Fine but the base game is not a scam imo. It already has a huge roster and who cares about gay dlc literally who characters. Old players already have their mains on the roster.
Yeah. I wish people would stop simping so hard for corporations. It's disgusting. If a game is trying to israelite me I just stop playing and stop paying.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>S-so what if they advertised a $30 DLC pass before the base game even came out just buy it do you know how much you're hurting Sakurai-san...
>He wasn't originally going to have Min-Min be the ARMS rep until the director of ARMS personally begged him to add her
Watch the direct again, he said he was going to have Ninjaro or Min Min, asked Mr. Yabuki for advice, and Yabuki answered Min Min alarmingly quickly
The spread of franchises seemed pretty fair and unique, but when you spread out all the alts like that you realize Xenoshit, Waifu Emblem, and Minecrap got way more representation than they deserved. Even DQ got like four more character skins than people actually wanted.
True art and enjoyable experiences do not appeal to every single person possible. Minecraft is the embodiment of corporate "art". You are a sheep, and will forever stay within your flock.
Steve was also designed to be a shitty placeholder model but Notch was a lazy fat frick (Mojang would carry on this legacy to this day) and he decided not to change Steve because it became """"""""""iconic""""""""""
>shitty placeholder model probably cooked up in less than an hour by the lead dev >still in place over a decade later as the game is worth billions of dollars and owned by a megacorp
sounds like SOUL to me
He even fricking had proper models and concept art made for him by an artist he paid out of his own fricking wallet but scrapped them because they "didn't fit the game's style". Notch is a homosexual and Minecraft is the shittiest game to ever become popular.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Damn, looking at that I'm glad he followed his own path.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I am too because good art shouldn't be wasted on bad games, and Minecraft? It's barely even a game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He made the right call, that's some gay ass bob the builder shit.
[...]
I think Banjo is probably the worst addition character wise.
>Plant
Based >Joker
Ok >Hero
Based >Banjo
Frick off >Terry
Supremely gigabased >Byleth
Ok moveset, just hated because he's from Fire Emblem >Min Min
Ok >Steve
Based >Sephiroth
Gigabased >Pyra & Mythra
Ok >Kazuya
Wanted Lloyd but still based >Sora
Frick off
>Cope
Me and my friends liked Banjo yet we were all disappointed by how poorly implemented he was. Smash Bros ruined Banjo
he's dead in the same way f-zero is, forever known as smash fodder, except it's even worse in banjo's case as he's a third party
[...]
banjo's still dead
don't care banjo is dead and you will seethe forever
>discordgays suddenly go back to seething about Banjo >hourly Elden Ring seethe threads come to a screeching halt
Really activates the almonds
>Xenoshit
I'm amazed at how this game causes so much seething. It's like when XB3 was announced all of a sudden shitposting against Xenoblade spiked overnight.
Ended up very good in my opinion. Only pick I really feel iffy on is Min Min, but the stage and music with her are good. My personal favorite out of these is Hero. Really wanted a Dragon Quest hero in and ended up incredibly pleased with the result.
Nah, Castlevania and Dragon Quest are some of the most homegrown third-parties on the roster, Banjo was a major first-party presence until the Rare acquisition, Isabelle paired well with Villager to represent modern Animal Crossing, and Donkey Kong was big enough to deserve its villain in. Everything after THAT was extra.
You can make similar arguments for every character added but only Ridley had a meme so big (lol) about not being included that it even reached outside of the smash circle
It's still one of the most important franchises of Nintendo's pre-64 era alongside Mega Man and FF so for the sake of history it should absolutely be in Smash.
You can make similar arguments for every character added but only Ridley had a meme so big (lol) about not being included that it even reached outside of the smash circle
Ridley was my absolute most wanted character, but no he is not the end of shoulds before we transitioned to coulds. Castlevania and Dragon Quest are critical to Nintendo history and Animal Crossing needed an actual animal villager given how big that franchise is. DK also deserved a third rep of any kind but K. Rool was ideal. Banjo is sort of on the border, I consider Hero the definitive end of shoulds but Banjo more or less falls in that camp.
The only ones that I even bought were Steve and Sephiroth. Don't give a single frick about anyone else but god damn man I promise there are more than 2 genres of video game you could've represented
Mostly great, the kind of thing I never would have imagined when I first played Smash 64. Only one that really disappointed me is ending on Sora, not because I think he's a bad character or that he doesn't belong, I'm glad he's in but the fact they wasted the final reveal on a character they thought was the end all hype but could barely incorporate the aspects of the character and game that made KH famous.
>Plant
Based >Joker
Ok >Hero
Based >Banjo
Frick off >Terry
Supremely gigabased >Byleth
Ok moveset, just hated because he's from Fire Emblem >Min Min
Ok >Steve
Based >Sephiroth
Gigabased >Pyra & Mythra
Ok >Kazuya
Wanted Lloyd but still based >Sora
Frick off
>banjogays are illiterate
As expected from people deathly allergic to actual stories that aren't "hurr witch steal little girl's beauty"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Liberal Stevetroony still seething
2 years ago
Anonymous
don't care banjo is dead and you will seethe forever
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stay mad seethey Stevey
2 years ago
Anonymous
How can they be dead if I am playing as them?
2 years ago
Anonymous
he's dead in the same way f-zero is, forever known as smash fodder, except it's even worse in banjo's case as he's a third party
Stay mad seethey Stevey
banjo's still dead
2 years ago
Anonymous
Gonna cry, Stevegay?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stop comparing the 2nd best pick behind Banjo to discord trannies. It's unfair for Steve.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Steve is gay. Banjo is based. Sorry to say.
2 years ago
Anonymous
but it gave us alex who is cute
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah.
2 years ago
Anonymous
but it gave us alex who is cute
What the frick is this?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alex getting railed by bear wiener
2 years ago
Anonymous
Reminder >Steveoids screamed Banjo wouldn't get in Smash >Banjo gets into smash before Steve. >Stevoids screams that Banjo games will never be playable on Nintendo again >Banjo Kazooie is available N64 on the Switch >Banjo will never get a new game
You are here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>rumors have already begun that Microsoft is interested in a Banjo revival
2 years ago
Anonymous
>minecraft >story
2 years ago
Anonymous
>expecting a story in a sandbox game
I don't even play Minecraft but that train of thought you have is moronic, which makes sense, considering you're a Banjotroony and all.
True art and enjoyable experiences do not appeal to every single person possible. Minecraft is the embodiment of corporate "art". You are a sheep, and will forever stay within your flock.
Spear characters in something like Smash would just be a sword character with more emphasis on thrusting attacks. They'd still have sweeping attacks just like other melee weapons.
Banjo has my highest win rate but I consider myself a Wario main. I like playing as all of them except for Min-Min. I hope my evil boy gets in next game.
I just wish they gave Sora more shit to play with than just his KH1 kit. Granted he's in so I won't b***h too much and I do like playing him but come on people another counter?
lmao at all the homosexuals who believed the grinch "leak"
I TOLD YOU BRO
I WARNED YOU ABOUT HOW IT COULD HAVE BEEN FAKE BRO >b-but nobody would put that much effort into a leak
how naive, i even said that before it was revealed to be fake
Great run, every choice was either a personal favorite that I really wanted, from a game i enjoyed, or ended up being fun to play. only choice i found boring is Min Min
Calling Terry an offshoot of Ken is absurd, but at least I can see the basis for it. The two have been paired together in crossovers before anyways. Comparing Kazuya to ANY of the previous fighting game characters, however, is just moronic. I also have to wonder why you neglected to mention Min Min despite her being from an arena fighter.
I pick the orange pill
Echo fighters gain unique kits from the originals, besides Dark Samus who keeps the current kit and Samus herself gets a rework.
Joker was a shit pick. In a game full of visually striking areas too they picked the fricking UI map of Mementos with a generic platform. Out of all of the DLC he clearly has the least love, care and passion put into him.
As far as Persona/SMT goes Jack Frost would have been a better pick as the only thing close to an Ice user we have in Smash is the Ice Climbers.
smash is a scam and so is its dlc
everyone who foamed about it are genuine sheep who are slaves to their dopamine receptors and nostalgia
I can see how DLC is a scam, but Smash? It has high replay value at a standard pricetag.
its dlc practice is one of the worst i've seen, have people fight over which of their favorite nostalgia character gets in when it was all pre determined from the lisences nintendo bought.
Fine but the base game is not a scam imo. It already has a huge roster and who cares about gay dlc literally who characters. Old players already have their mains on the roster.
i was only refering to the dlc when i called it a scam, these kinds of practices need to stop
Yeah. I wish people would stop simping so hard for corporations. It's disgusting. If a game is trying to israelite me I just stop playing and stop paying.
>S-so what if they advertised a $30 DLC pass before the base game even came out just buy it do you know how much you're hurting Sakurai-san...
>have people fight over which of their favorite nostalgia character gets in
Brought on a healthy amount of both discussion and memes alike long with more salt than you can shake a stick at.
>when it was all pre determined from the lisences nintendo bought
Sakurai still had the final say.
He wasn't originally going to have Min-Min be the ARMS rep until the director of ARMS personally begged him to add her
Sakurai also didn't think Steve would be workable at first
Finally, Sora originally wasn't going to be added to Ultimate until Sakurai had a chance meeting with a Disney representative at the Game Awards.
>He wasn't originally going to have Min-Min be the ARMS rep until the director of ARMS personally begged him to add her
Watch the direct again, he said he was going to have Ninjaro or Min Min, asked Mr. Yabuki for advice, and Yabuki answered Min Min alarmingly quickly
>responding to bait
it is bait, but he is right about the dlc being a scam
Pass 3 is real
>waaaaah baby want more toys waaaaaah
Boomer picks > zoomer picks
The spread of franchises seemed pretty fair and unique, but when you spread out all the alts like that you realize Xenoshit, Waifu Emblem, and Minecrap got way more representation than they deserved. Even DQ got like four more character skins than people actually wanted.
>Minecrap got way more representation than they deserved
Minecraft is literally the best-selling game ever made.
Delusional Banjotroony.
literal programmer art character. might as well make pong a playable character.
both are bad things how?
True art and enjoyable experiences do not appeal to every single person possible. Minecraft is the embodiment of corporate "art". You are a sheep, and will forever stay within your flock.
Steve's design was made by a fat Swede indie dev living in his mom's basement, it's the exact opposite of corporate art
Steve was also designed to be a shitty placeholder model but Notch was a lazy fat frick (Mojang would carry on this legacy to this day) and he decided not to change Steve because it became """"""""""iconic""""""""""
>shitty placeholder model probably cooked up in less than an hour by the lead dev
>still in place over a decade later as the game is worth billions of dollars and owned by a megacorp
sounds like SOUL to me
He even fricking had proper models and concept art made for him by an artist he paid out of his own fricking wallet but scrapped them because they "didn't fit the game's style". Notch is a homosexual and Minecraft is the shittiest game to ever become popular.
Damn, looking at that I'm glad he followed his own path.
I am too because good art shouldn't be wasted on bad games, and Minecraft? It's barely even a game.
He made the right call, that's some gay ass bob the builder shit.
Anon, Minecraft is a children's game.
>discordgays suddenly go back to seething about Banjo
>hourly Elden Ring seethe threads come to a screeching halt
Really activates the almonds
>Xenoshit
I'm amazed at how this game causes so much seething. It's like when XB3 was announced all of a sudden shitposting against Xenoblade spiked overnight.
The only thing I'm upset about is no SMT rep and horrible Kingdom Hearts representation.
Ended up very good in my opinion. Only pick I really feel iffy on is Min Min, but the stage and music with her are good. My personal favorite out of these is Hero. Really wanted a Dragon Quest hero in and ended up incredibly pleased with the result.
Pretty good. After Banjo and Hero everyone who should have been in Smash was now in Smash. All that was left were guys who could be in Smash.
>After Banjo and Hero
It was actually after Ridley
Nah, Castlevania and Dragon Quest are some of the most homegrown third-parties on the roster, Banjo was a major first-party presence until the Rare acquisition, Isabelle paired well with Villager to represent modern Animal Crossing, and Donkey Kong was big enough to deserve its villain in. Everything after THAT was extra.
You can make similar arguments for every character added but only Ridley had a meme so big (lol) about not being included that it even reached outside of the smash circle
Castlevania sells like shit
It's still one of the most important franchises of Nintendo's pre-64 era alongside Mega Man and FF so for the sake of history it should absolutely be in Smash.
Ridley was my absolute most wanted character, but no he is not the end of shoulds before we transitioned to coulds. Castlevania and Dragon Quest are critical to Nintendo history and Animal Crossing needed an actual animal villager given how big that franchise is. DK also deserved a third rep of any kind but K. Rool was ideal. Banjo is sort of on the border, I consider Hero the definitive end of shoulds but Banjo more or less falls in that camp.
For me, it's Sora, Joker, and Banjo.
I'm glad there's more niche picks for the pass though.
are you me?
Pass 1 was garbo outside of Terry
Pass 2 was pretty good
The only ones that I even bought were Steve and Sephiroth. Don't give a single frick about anyone else but god damn man I promise there are more than 2 genres of video game you could've represented
half good, half atrocious
All shit except Terry
I've wanted Sora in smash since that fateful day in the early 2000s when I first played his game. I'm beyond satisfied.
Mostly great, the kind of thing I never would have imagined when I first played Smash 64. Only one that really disappointed me is ending on Sora, not because I think he's a bad character or that he doesn't belong, I'm glad he's in but the fact they wasted the final reveal on a character they thought was the end all hype but could barely incorporate the aspects of the character and game that made KH famous.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/79809487
1. Pyra/Mythra - 2776
3. Joker - 2081
4. Sora - 1857
5. Byleth - 1616
7. Min Min - 1349
8. Hero - 1234
10. Sephiroth - 1095
11. Terry - 917
18. Kazuya - 644
39. Banjo & Kazooie - 461
55. Steve - 302
It's like pottery
>Plant
Based
>Joker
Ok
>Hero
Based
>Banjo
Frick off
>Terry
Supremely gigabased
>Byleth
Ok moveset, just hated because he's from Fire Emblem
>Min Min
Ok
>Steve
Based
>Sephiroth
Gigabased
>Pyra & Mythra
Ok
>Kazuya
Wanted Lloyd but still based
>Sora
Frick off
Hehehehehe something wrong ma'am?
go back
based
Hey seethey Stevey
>coping banjo redditor can't accept that his series is dead
Banjo is shovelware. Surprised it even got a second game.
TL;DR
>banjogays are illiterate
As expected from people deathly allergic to actual stories that aren't "hurr witch steal little girl's beauty"
Liberal Stevetroony still seething
don't care banjo is dead and you will seethe forever
Stay mad seethey Stevey
How can they be dead if I am playing as them?
he's dead in the same way f-zero is, forever known as smash fodder, except it's even worse in banjo's case as he's a third party
banjo's still dead
Gonna cry, Stevegay?
Stop comparing the 2nd best pick behind Banjo to discord trannies. It's unfair for Steve.
Steve is gay. Banjo is based. Sorry to say.
but it gave us alex who is cute
Nah.
What the frick is this?
Alex getting railed by bear wiener
Reminder
>Steveoids screamed Banjo wouldn't get in Smash
>Banjo gets into smash before Steve.
>Stevoids screams that Banjo games will never be playable on Nintendo again
>Banjo Kazooie is available N64 on the Switch
>Banjo will never get a new game
You are here.
>rumors have already begun that Microsoft is interested in a Banjo revival
>minecraft
>story
>expecting a story in a sandbox game
I don't even play Minecraft but that train of thought you have is moronic, which makes sense, considering you're a Banjotroony and all.
Banjo is based, stevetroony
Based
Let's fix this:
>Plant
Based
>Joker
Based
>Hero
Mediocre
>Banjo
Uninspired
>Terry
Supremely gigabased
>Byleth
Cringe
>Min Min
Cringe
>Steve
Based
>Sephiroth
Mediocre, highly overrated
>Pyra & Mythra
Coomer Cringe
>Kazuya
Literal who
>Sora
Mediocre, highly overrated
Banjo was the only non-Terry character from FP1 I didn't hate. But I don't feel particularly strongly about him.
Banjo is better than Terry in every aspect
This is demonstrably false and your bias is showing.
Wrong. Terry is based. Looks cool. And he is fun to play.
>Cope
Me and my friends liked Banjo yet we were all disappointed by how poorly implemented he was. Smash Bros ruined Banjo
I think Banjo is probably the worst addition character wise.
Gonna seethe, Stevegays?
Where's Freddy Fazbear and Eggman?
>add another sword character
>no spear users ever get added
I've never even played a Kirby game before but I really want Waddle Dee just because he uses a spear. I think he could have a really fun moveset.
Spear characters in something like Smash would just be a sword character with more emphasis on thrusting attacks. They'd still have sweeping attacks just like other melee weapons.
there were some good additions but Banjo was the only one that sent this place into avsolute hype mode.
The mandatory fire emblem character was the only misstep
Banjo has my highest win rate but I consider myself a Wario main. I like playing as all of them except for Min-Min. I hope my evil boy gets in next game.
I just wish they gave Sora more shit to play with than just his KH1 kit. Granted he's in so I won't b***h too much and I do like playing him but come on people another counter?
Kazuya, Steve and Banjo were the only based picks. Every other generic anime trash can go frick itself.
>Terry
>generic anime trash
Based roster but Joker is cringe.
Should have been Demi-Fiend or Nahobino
Jesus, what is it about Banjo that produces this sheer volume of autism?
Joker is the worst pick here and is gonna age like fricking milk
Good selection fron different genres and eras
lmao at all the homosexuals who believed the grinch "leak"
I TOLD YOU BRO
I WARNED YOU ABOUT HOW IT COULD HAVE BEEN FAKE BRO
>b-but nobody would put that much effort into a leak
how naive, i even said that before it was revealed to be fake
Shadow and Mach Rider were the best characters we didn't get from that, let's be honest.
Great run, every choice was either a personal favorite that I really wanted, from a game i enjoyed, or ended up being fun to play. only choice i found boring is Min Min
Steve, Terry, and Kazuya were moronic additions. We already had Ken and Hat Ken, did we REALLY need two more
Steve, Terry, and Kazuya are literally the 3 best additions, you absolute mongrel
Calling Terry an offshoot of Ken is absurd, but at least I can see the basis for it. The two have been paired together in crossovers before anyways. Comparing Kazuya to ANY of the previous fighting game characters, however, is just moronic. I also have to wonder why you neglected to mention Min Min despite her being from an arena fighter.
Kazuya adds unique mechanics that filters smashbabs
He's based
Smash should not exist
sephiroth was tons of fun to play
Make your selection, now
red pill
Purple pill just to shit all over genocucks
Also 3 years of DLC is dope af
Yellow pill has the best dlc roster overall and guarantees ssbu deluxe
I pick the orange pill
Echo fighters gain unique kits from the originals, besides Dark Samus who keeps the current kit and Samus herself gets a rework.
>Kazuya
>Terry
I don't know the first thing about Smash but these two are gigabased
Why are they Danganronpa posing
great roaster, flawed gameplay. should be a better console. also showcases switches space limitations (ONLY 2 FF7 SONGS???)
that was for Wii U. Switch added more with the Sephiroth DLC, albeit some as Advent Chilrden re-mixes
You are probably on a list if not destined to be on one.
Anime/10.
how does banjo see past his nose
Terry, Banjo, Hero, and Sephiroth are fine.
DEFINITIVE DLC TIER LIST
GOD TIER:
>Steve (Forma Asesino de Esports)
>Terry
>Kazuya
>Piranha Plant
HIGH TIER:
>Hero
>Sephiroth
MID TIER
>Min Min
>Joker
>Banjo
SHIT TIER
>Phythra
>Byleth
>Sora
Tier list:
>Fighting game characters
>Hero
>Everyone else
>Sora
>fighting game characters
>the rest
Overall meh. Most exciting ultimate additions overall were an echo fighter and Banjo for me.
>Based
Kazuya, Pyra/Mythra, Terry, Sephiroth
>Acceptable
Sora, Banjo, Joker, Hero
>Disappointing
Steve, Plant, Byleth, Min Min
Joker was a shit pick. In a game full of visually striking areas too they picked the fricking UI map of Mementos with a generic platform. Out of all of the DLC he clearly has the least love, care and passion put into him.
As far as Persona/SMT goes Jack Frost would have been a better pick as the only thing close to an Ice user we have in Smash is the Ice Climbers.