>For the soundtrack to Streets of Rage 3, [Yuzo Koshiro] created a new composition method called the "Automated Composing System" to prod...

>For the soundtrack to Streets of Rage 3, [Yuzo Koshiro] created a new composition method called the "Automated Composing System" to produce "fast-beat techno like jungle." It was the most advanced techno technique of the time, incorporating heavily randomized sequences.
>This resulted in innovative and experimental sounds generated automatically that, according to Koshiro, "you ordinarily never could imagine on your own." This method was very rare at the time, but has since become popular among techno and trance producers to get "unexpected and odd sounds."
>"I personally believe that, in certain aspects, using the current AI generative music tools to create songs doesn't differ significantly from using the M98, which I developed for composing the music for [Streets of Rage 3]. The emotional parts of that music were carefully arranged by hand."
With how AI shit is everywhere nowadays, was he actually right all along?

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do you mean nowadays? Sounds like he was using ai back then and it’s been in play for quite some time.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      He only used it for SOR3 and even then it wasn't AI, he just had a program running an RNG sequencer tied to different samples.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it wasn't AI
        What exactly do you think AI is? We've had AI for almost as long as we've had computers. What he was using is a form of AI.

        t. a software engineer who develops AI systems

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          does calling randInt() really count as AI?

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >For the soundtrack to Streets of Rage 3, [Yuzo Koshiro] created a new composition method called "just frick my shit up"
    ftfy

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    post some examples

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting that this fancy composition technique was only ever used in one game. Doesn't really inspire much confidence in the quality of the output produced by this technique.

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    of course hes right
    its just a tool you can use
    sequencer randomization/humanization has been a thing for decades now, and drummers and keyboard players still exist. the people who get afraid of being replaced by AI are just hacks imo

    its like paint. like a new color got invented. and now you can paint with it
    that should be exciting for artists, not intimidating.
    an entire album of randomly generated nonsense will, unsurprisingly, sound like an entire album of randomly generated nonsense. because they just took that new can of paint, opened it, then turned it upside-down and decided to call it a day
    if you instead try to add it into or mix it into what youre already working on, or even centering a "painting" around that new color (as in SoR3), you now have something actually new and unique

    also in regards to SoR3, while yuzo may have been the guy to program it, imo the only really good implementation of it in that game came from motohiro kawashima

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The main issue that people have with it is the ability to directly target specific musicians or artists. Yeah, if you're already a big name it doesn't really matter, but if you're a relative small timer working on commission basis, the ability to immediately generate "good enough" knockoffs isn't typically seen as a good thing.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        i know what you mean
        i just kinda think if your whole grind is drawing demented fetish porn for commissions then you should probably just kys yourself anyways

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >porn
          I know drawing fetish porn on the internet for relatively wealthy firstworlders is literally one of the most lucrative careers down there in Juanistan, but nobody said anything about porn. People have been trying to "replace" specific artists of all varieties ever since LoRAs became a thing.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >WAAAAH PORN PORN PORN
          Can you homosexuals ever go a day without crying about your personal beefs to other people during a conversation? Get help.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No wonder the streets of rage music was so bad. He writes far better tunes these days.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. hasn't listened to the scheme

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >his "good" songs are memorable simply because of beats that he directly lifted from somewhere else
    >his non lifted tracks were just randomly generated noise
    Why do people like this guy again? He's what you'd get if Tommy Tallarico had actually tried to make musicm

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because we are Black

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Random generative techniques for composing have been around since Bach. This has basically nothing to do with "AI" in the sense of LLMs and so on.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    random generation has been a part of electronic music since the beginning. Also he's full of shit as most of the sor3 songs are renditions of then-popular techno tracks

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