So why do sales only matter when it doesn't include normalgay games? I've noticed people do this shit with modern consoles btw, they claim that even though PS5 games sell like hotcakes that the lack of exclusives is suddenly a huge problem. FFXVI is a flop therefore the whole system is a failure, even though millions of normalgays buy the same games every year.
MK was always the normie fighter, I knew a baseball player in college who loved that shit to pieces, more than MLB The Show.
Does it count re releases and spinoffs, like I can't see Tekken or SF being that far behind if you count rereleases.
Maybe SF because 1 and 2 were released when gaming was much smaller and arcades were a thing but Tekken has 7 games, portable versions and Tekken tag.
>MK was never that popular, i'm sure SF was always much more popular
Little bro just learned that their subjective experiences aren't as a matter of fact, objective and representative of reality and tend to be very limited and particular, hence the concept of bias, narrow mindedness, one dimensional, etc.
The article this chart seems to be based on uses a fandom wiki as source, which is missing a fair bit of sales data. It also counts arcade units separately.
The 80 million sales are self-reported, so there's that.
There are twice as many mk games as sf games and they are all fricking shovelware not worth playing. Look at some of the horrendous past mk entires especially between 3-9. They churn out twice as many titles that sell on spectacle alone. They may have higher numbers but games are garbage.
So did Street Fighter and Tekken. And they've both had series as well. Mortal Kombat probably had the best live action movie of all of them, though the Street Fighter anime movie is probably the best fightan' movie of all. And no MK series has been worth the film they used to shoot it.
MK has always been the casual king. During that dark era on PS2 they kept pumping out fighting games that had a lot of single player kontent. Casuals love this. None of their games are good, but they're pretty packed with stuff to do and unlock. SF never had this until just now. Tekken had it, but somehow they fell apart and only just got lucky again with T7.
As someone who was there, I think I can explain it. Most people with a genesis had mortal kombat and kept buying it on other systems. Street Fighter was bigger than mortal kombat in the arcade, for sure. But it felt like SF began to die off heavily in the arcade after SF2 and 3 Alpha, and we saw a lot more killer instinct and mk taking up the reigns into the 2000's.
I can recall by the 2000's that I knew hardly anyone with SF at home. They had Smash, MK, and Soul Calibur all through the 2000's.
Virtually every minority I knew was playing Tekken. They were super about it and played it simultaneously in arcades and at home.
Mortal Kombat was a fricking phenom far as i can tell. When it first dropped
Based on my knowledge of the subject, which is nearly nothing, I believe this.
SNK never releases their sales figures for whatever reason. They certainly aren't doing SF or MK numbers, but they're still doing well enough to keep making fighting games and convince Saudi big wigs to buy them.
I never met anyone who had street fighter until I became an adult. It felt like everyone had MK, I knew several people with Smash, and a few guys I knew had Tekken. This graph makes complete sense.
SF is the most popular of them all in watch numbers, but that's it. Tekken always been ahead of SF in sales and the gap is going to get bigger with the 8th release. MK is the most popular in sales and that's always been true. There's a reason why MK was always brought up in the media it's because it was controversial back then and helped sales + a very successful movie.
>MK was never that popular
They've made 96 mortal kombat games anon, its popular enough.
You also probably arent old enough to remember the hype train that was the franchise in the first three incarnations that spawned a bunch of edgy fighting games.
The number for SF titles goes down to 20 different games. I still think this is unfair as there's some big differences between the supposed "same" games and looking by this side Tekken falls to 13 games and MK to 11. So no change nonetheless to the true numbers.
It never had a chance. They tried to differentiate from the competition by having (more) sex appeal, and then realized that's all it had so might as well just make a game based entirely around that.
>MK kept selling games into the PS2 era >SFV had the optics of being a console exclusive/no Switch port
That's the reason for the sales difference. Culturally, SFII remains the key collective perception of 2D fighters while Tekken is the perception of 3D fighters.
Bad data. The correct form of data would be >Sales divided by the number of releases
But nobody wants to make that chart because then Mortal Kombat would be pretty frickin' low.
>MK was never that popular
MK is popular with people who don't play fighting games, it pulls far more box sales from casual players who aren't involved with the kinds of online competitive scenes which create spectator content and build communities.
You think MK is less popular because there is less online "buzz", less interest in tournaments, fewer resources for people trying to learn the game, fewer people streaming themselves playing. The game still sells more because dudebros who spend 90% of their time playing CoD or FIFA will buy the game and play it for 10 hours.
MK was for edgelord normies who didn't care that the game sucked and looked like shit, they just wanted to see the cool violent fatalities. Also I have to assume these statistics are purely from the US, because Street Fighter and Virtua Fighter are huge in Japan
>MK was never that popular, i'm sure SF was always much more popular
MK is the FIFA of fighting games. Normalhomosexuals buy it, watch the execution cutscenes once or ten times, go "woahh duude, wicked" and then forget about the game and go to parties or w/e they do. That's how MK sold that much, brand name alone. They could make packaged refuse and if they slap "Mortal Kombat" on it, it will sell. Compared to that, StreetFighter is nothing.
Reminder sales don't mean shit because Naruto and DBZ dwarf all of these.
So why do sales only matter when it doesn't include normalgay games? I've noticed people do this shit with modern consoles btw, they claim that even though PS5 games sell like hotcakes that the lack of exclusives is suddenly a huge problem. FFXVI is a flop therefore the whole system is a failure, even though millions of normalgays buy the same games every year.
MK was always the normie fighter, I knew a baseball player in college who loved that shit to pieces, more than MLB The Show.
That's sales, there's not even a mention of KoF. MK is the most popular, but SF does beat Tekken.
>MK was never that popular, i'm sure SF was always much more popular
It was, why do you think it has more than 1 movie?
there are almost a dozen mortal kombat movies and tv shows.
that's what more than one means
the last time SF was popular the ps3 had not been announced yet
Does it count re releases and spinoffs, like I can't see Tekken or SF being that far behind if you count rereleases.
Maybe SF because 1 and 2 were released when gaming was much smaller and arcades were a thing but Tekken has 7 games, portable versions and Tekken tag.
This is from babies buying mk in 1940 because it was the first game to have blood
The other games don't sell like that
How are you this stupid?
You are also stupid. MK's modern games are the highest selling ones BY FAR.
Smash bros is a party game
>MK was never that popular, i'm sure SF was always much more popular
Little bro just learned that their subjective experiences aren't as a matter of fact, objective and representative of reality and tend to be very limited and particular, hence the concept of bias, narrow mindedness, one dimensional, etc.
If Smash had as many releases as MK, Tekken, or SF it would have like 10x the amount of sales.
Lmao.
He is not wrong, Eric.
why the frick would you bring up eric in a mortal kombat thread
go back to your famitsu sales containment thread you fricking obsessed schizo
A schizo zoomer that only played street fighter gets confused when he finds out other game series were more popular?
Dammit Soul Calibur deserved better.
I'm not entirely sure twitter is a reliable source
Mortal Kombat was huge in the 90s, Street Fighter was too but I can believe MK was huger.
The article this chart seems to be based on uses a fandom wiki as source, which is missing a fair bit of sales data. It also counts arcade units separately.
The 80 million sales are self-reported, so there's that.
Mk has more games
silent majority
There are twice as many mk games as sf games and they are all fricking shovelware not worth playing. Look at some of the horrendous past mk entires especially between 3-9. They churn out twice as many titles that sell on spectacle alone. They may have higher numbers but games are garbage.
Blud wildin’ and be acting like SF didnt skibidi fiddy versions of each game :skull:
You're a moron and don't know shit about how things were in the past.
MK is a HUGE franchise.
It had more than ONE movie.
So did Street Fighter and Tekken. And they've both had series as well. Mortal Kombat probably had the best live action movie of all of them, though the Street Fighter anime movie is probably the best fightan' movie of all. And no MK series has been worth the film they used to shoot it.
Is Guilty Gear really that unpopular its beaten by virtua fighter?
Virtua Fighter was popular at one point GG never sold 1 million copies until strive
Virtua Fighter had a massive advantage by being the first 3D fighter, in 1993 no less. A lot of people likely bought VF for that alone.
MK has always been the casual king. During that dark era on PS2 they kept pumping out fighting games that had a lot of single player kontent. Casuals love this. None of their games are good, but they're pretty packed with stuff to do and unlock. SF never had this until just now. Tekken had it, but somehow they fell apart and only just got lucky again with T7.
As someone who was there, I think I can explain it. Most people with a genesis had mortal kombat and kept buying it on other systems. Street Fighter was bigger than mortal kombat in the arcade, for sure. But it felt like SF began to die off heavily in the arcade after SF2 and 3 Alpha, and we saw a lot more killer instinct and mk taking up the reigns into the 2000's.
I can recall by the 2000's that I knew hardly anyone with SF at home. They had Smash, MK, and Soul Calibur all through the 2000's.
Virtually every minority I knew was playing Tekken. They were super about it and played it simultaneously in arcades and at home.
>virtua figher that low
Virtuafighter bros.... how could we lose?
>not a single anime fighter
>no KOF
Atleast you're there
MK has always been very popular and has a frick ton of games
Mortal Kombat was a fricking phenom far as i can tell. When it first dropped
Based on my knowledge of the subject, which is nearly nothing, I believe this.
Where is King of Fighters?
In the trash along with Mexicans.
spics don't buy games
KOF fans are too busy playing 98 and 2002 to buy the new games.
SNK never releases their sales figures for whatever reason. They certainly aren't doing SF or MK numbers, but they're still doing well enough to keep making fighting games and convince Saudi big wigs to buy them.
>sales
Street fighter sat on turd strike for almost a decade while MK pumped out shovelware every year. No shit MK has more sales.
>MK was never that popular
fricking moron
just stop posting
I never met anyone who had street fighter until I became an adult. It felt like everyone had MK, I knew several people with Smash, and a few guys I knew had Tekken. This graph makes complete sense.
don't know a single person who's heard of sf
meanwhile everyone and their moms know about mk
SF is the most popular of them all in watch numbers, but that's it. Tekken always been ahead of SF in sales and the gap is going to get bigger with the 8th release. MK is the most popular in sales and that's always been true. There's a reason why MK was always brought up in the media it's because it was controversial back then and helped sales + a very successful movie.
>MK was never that popular
They've made 96 mortal kombat games anon, its popular enough.
You also probably arent old enough to remember the hype train that was the franchise in the first three incarnations that spawned a bunch of edgy fighting games.
Street Fighter had a rough transition to 3d.
Tekken and MK had way more games made so obviously they sold more than SF.
I think arcade earnings alone for SFII have made bank.
Tekken had 16 releases;
Mortal Kombat had 26 releases;
Street Fighter had 35 releases;
>Collab and mobile games not included
Most of SF releases are just revisions of existing games.
Tekken and MK had way more truly new game.
The number for SF titles goes down to 20 different games. I still think this is unfair as there's some big differences between the supposed "same" games and looking by this side Tekken falls to 13 games and MK to 11. So no change nonetheless to the true numbers.
What went wrong?
Why would you want to play Mortal Kombat 1 when 2-11 exist? What did they expect?
i had no interest in MK until 1 thanks to the tag shit. other than that the only nrs game i give my time to is injustice
nobody appreciated your joke but i did buddy
Most MK players are on xonsole
I'm convinced normies buy MK just to watch the fatality animations and then never touch it again until the next one comes out.
western market is larger than japanese by a lot
MK releases more new versions than Street Fighter has in the last 20 years.
Doubt this is true with how many versions of SF2 that exists across multiple consoles.
Those Dead or Alive total sales. No wonder they went the shameless easy money from simps route.
It never had a chance. They tried to differentiate from the competition by having (more) sex appeal, and then realized that's all it had so might as well just make a game based entirely around that.
that explains why the new ones are pozzed
>MK kept selling games into the PS2 era
>SFV had the optics of being a console exclusive/no Switch port
That's the reason for the sales difference. Culturally, SFII remains the key collective perception of 2D fighters while Tekken is the perception of 3D fighters.
Bad data. The correct form of data would be
>Sales divided by the number of releases
But nobody wants to make that chart because then Mortal Kombat would be pretty frickin' low.
MK has been selling more than SF since X, grandpa
>Virtua Fighter
I hate Sega with every fiber of my being
>VF
they just sold off all their arcades, literally irrelevant to them now
Thanks now I'm even more frustrated
>THE LE MANDINGO AFFECT!
Medication. Now.
>MK was never that popular
MK is popular with people who don't play fighting games, it pulls far more box sales from casual players who aren't involved with the kinds of online competitive scenes which create spectator content and build communities.
You think MK is less popular because there is less online "buzz", less interest in tournaments, fewer resources for people trying to learn the game, fewer people streaming themselves playing. The game still sells more because dudebros who spend 90% of their time playing CoD or FIFA will buy the game and play it for 10 hours.
MK was for edgelord normies who didn't care that the game sucked and looked like shit, they just wanted to see the cool violent fatalities. Also I have to assume these statistics are purely from the US, because Street Fighter and Virtua Fighter are huge in Japan
for a few years there everyone was buying a new mk release alongside fifa and 2b2k or whatever the basketball one was. Mostly factory workers.
>MK was never that popular, i'm sure SF was always much more popular
MK is the FIFA of fighting games. Normalhomosexuals buy it, watch the execution cutscenes once or ten times, go "woahh duude, wicked" and then forget about the game and go to parties or w/e they do. That's how MK sold that much, brand name alone. They could make packaged refuse and if they slap "Mortal Kombat" on it, it will sell. Compared to that, StreetFighter is nothing.
/v/'s obsession with fighting game sales is the worst shit.
The only thing worse than that is Steam Chart player counting.
The chart of how many hours of each game have been played between 2 human beings looks dramatically different to this chart
MK is always on sale for like $5-10, i own like 3 if the newer ones and fully intend on playing them at some point.