>Mounting complaints from the community came to a head after a streamer beat the next expansion’s first dungeon without a healer
>After months (and even years) of healer mains in Final Fantasy 14 complaining that Square Enix’s MMORPG has simplified and devalued the job, seemingly to no avail, aggrieved healers are going one step further to make their opinion known: They’re going on strike.
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>Healers don't do their fricking jobs and complains about tanks
>SE eases this issue by making everyone able to heal
>Healers b***h
>DEYTERKURJERBS
Not like healers did their jobs anyway, good riddance.
maybe yoshit should actually design the game so healers actually have to fricking heal and not DPS for 90% of the fights
FPBP. If homosexual healers just did the dps back in the day, their jobs wouldn't be the mess they are now. You homosexuals get what you deserve. Now heal and frick up
Fully agree. Making someone split priorities as is is still honest bullshit. All healers need is faster CDs & movement so they can keep up with jackass tanks.
this, frick healers they should just be deleted from the game
It's been like this for quite literally a decade. People complain Yoshi P doesn't listen but he actually listens TOO MUCH.
Just play another class
or. and hear me out: just play another game
Oh no the healers that already refuse to actually fricking heal are quitting
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So if some homosexual did the thing WITHOUT a healer, what is the strike going to do? Clearly not needed?
Aren't most of the Healers going on strike like actual shitters who haven't even touched Extremes?
none of those healers do relevant content so I really don't care
yep look at the logs of the person who made the forum post
>yep look at the logs of the person who made the forum post
Can someone link the forum post so I can laugh at all these morons lmao. I don't even do duty finder after the first month and it's not like DF is the only method to level up jobs so this strike is going to just affect them like a boomerang lmao.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/499613-FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
>Siren
Always the homosexual server.
Going to autistically check every content they've done but so far not looking good lmao.
oh no no no
Hory shet.
Yer doin' good, lad.
>Find one person that actually does Savage
>It's just someone making fun of the boycott
kek
Put 'em in a pastebin and split it with someone workwise that shit has like 200 pages
And for fun we could redact the names when it's done on a seperate copy and just post it in that thread to really stir some shit
I'm just doing it out of curiosity but I'll make a pastebin.
how are they all fricking casuals
Excel tally might be decent too
https://pastebin.com/1W9AcRqv
I'll turn this into an excel once I get to a certain point. Maybe 50 pages.
Oh yea if anyone in the thread wants to do the same, feel free. Just start from the end of the thread and work down from there.
Is there something wrong with having 24 man logs? I don't parse, but I've ended up in groups with parsers so some logs exist.
Just evidence of the character not being a shitpost throwaway.
Naruhodo.
You guys realize people post on the forums on alts right, and they can hide their main from showing up on their loadstone, right? You guys realize this and don't actually think these are their mains and not just alts to post on the forums with right? You're not actually this fricking stupid right?
What has that picture got to do with your post?
i love zepla
You love mentally ill women? You're brown aren't you?
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Okay, let's assume that's true.
Why are their normal mode parses still shit?
>STOP SHITTING ON MY DEAD GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR YOSHI P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's just because 99% of the ubercasual playerbase is shitters
>The strike asks any player who participates to abstain from taking on any healer jobs in any group content (dungeons, raids, trials).
by strike I thought they meant unsubbing...
>Xivplayers
>actually unsubbing
LOL
>>The strike asks any player who participates to abstain from taking on any healer jobs in any group content (dungeons, raids, trials).
Sooooo doing the very thing they weren't doing anyway? Oh no...
nah they do all those things just not extreme, savage, or criterion
These people are complaining when they actively supported healers having to DPS in any content. Healers should ONLY heal. Content should be geared so that healers only HEAL, shield, and buff. It's moronic that healers have TWO damage buttons and have to do far less to get orange parses, while DPS and tank need to click a whole labyrinth worth of shit to stay up.
Frick healers honestly.
>far less
You've never healed a savage
The issue is that the devs refuse to pick a fricking lane. If fights were designed to do so much damage that healers must be constantly healing that would be fine. If fights stayed the same way but gave healers more complex damage that would also be fine.
Instead they picked the worst middle ground possible by giving healers a moveset designed around constantly healing but nothing in the game needs it so they have to do their shitty dps that was designed purely so healers had some attacks to level.
>nothing in the game needs it
You've never done an ex, savage, or ultimate
Why do you homosexuals speak on shit you dont know about?
8 tanks have cleared Ultimates. Stop pretending your shit is harrdcore or well designed.
You mean one ultimate you disingenuous homosexual
>8 tanks have cleared an old ult like UCOB where people have done meme runs with 50 deaths
literally a nothingburger
>50
I think it's over 100 now.
nta but neither have you. Most savage and ult fights are ogcd heals if your party isn't made of absolute shitters.
nta but okay, sure. Healers using their kits optimally is still completely different from "uhh one team cleared it without healers by cheesing the shit out of the fight that clearly means healers aren't needed"
You are agreeing with me moron healers are necessary
this shit is what made me miss wow. I missed actually being a fricking healer in wow, not dps with a side of healing. It's a shame that wow is so pozzed it's like it came out of its third bug chasing convention. Really aren't any mmos left if you liked raiding and healing anymore.
>WoWugee
Frick off we're full.
I already stopped playing like months ago anon.
>The WoWugees are fricking off finally
Maybe the community can go back to how comfy it was after all.
>being this naive
You'll be the trans-mmo community, and you'll like it!
>healers should only heal
no, they should debuff, buff, damage and heal. The task isn't only focused on the main target but more targets so their shit should be long to cooldown but they should be able to solo shit.
>unsubbing
That would mean losing their ERP plots
>That would mean losing their ERP plots
is the housing situation the most genius move to keep a base amount of subs forever? people literally REFUSE to unsub and move on and just log in once every single demo period its wild behavior
>make the fake pixel houses artificially scarce so weebs feel like they need to stay subbed to keep them
japs are the israelites of the east
>Keep like 5% of players subbed all the time instead a bigger number or just fricking increase the subcount
No israelite is that bad with money
>cultists immediately show up to pretend that healers are well designed
This lmao
Every healer is literally "spam Q then press W every 30s while avoiding hard casts as much as possible
Just because the streamer can do it doesn't mean the rest of us don't enjoy insurance policies. Sometimes I don't get the obsession with speed and damage.
Healer should be a fun job to play (even in easy content) instead of just an insurance policy.
I know this is hard to understand for Americans, but striking isn't just "not doing thing". It's organized with many people. Otherwise it has no effect.
NAggers spend all of their time causing drama instead of playing the game, this is well understood by everyone.
half the reason the game got so dumbed down in shadowbringers is because of NA players being dogshit
>go on the fc dicksword
>actual talking about the healer strike
>its just the dps players saying clueless things
>one trued tanking once (1) got so much shit he never tried again
>rest don’t even heal/tank extremes
This entire conversation is being had by people who don’t heal hard content
I mean you could just make the bosses hit harder or something
>Yoshi said everyone sucks ass right now because the 2 minute meta
>will fix next expac
>healers getting fricking uppity to try and force change when everything has to align with his schedule
>hes also working on FF 9 remake and war of the Lions remake.
Iam not even going to defend him but you guys are really asking for alot here
That sounds like a Square-Enix problem, he's not the only butthole working there. Surely there's a spry up and comer that can handle the like third FFT remaster. Very much doubt it needs Guy Who Saved Broken MMO by Making it WoW to succeed.
bro...one of the Yoshi P projects already was revealed to be Fantasian
>hes also working on FF 9 remake and war of the Lions remake
Didn't he like outright denied the rumour?
Whatr is the 2 minute meta
Popping every single damage buff at once so most of the groups damage is happening every 2 minutes and the rest is just filler.
They went even further in that direction in dawntrail and every single buff that didn't fit perfectly into that meta got changed. It's also why all the healers got a new attack that they can use once after they activate their damage buff to fit it into the meta window
>2 minute burst meta
very much a common problem in MMOs tbh
even games like fricking maplestory have it, though they at least have a 2m/3m meta depending on which classes you run.
1.5m/3m* because of kain
i was going to say something about that too, it's weird how many mmo's go towards burst metas , only maplestory makes sense though since those bosses are actual ass to fight.
>asking for good job design is too much
He's working on Fantasian and FFT remaster, there's no remake here.
Frustrated Anon Upset That A Game He Doesn't Like Is Popular Is Planning To Continue Seething On A Daily Basis Over Said Title
>Mounting anger from the anon in question came to a head today when he dropped his tendies on the floor and had to be calmed down by his mother.
>After months (and even years) of anon being upset over Final Fantasy 14's popularity, complaining that it takes attention away from his favorite title, obviously to no avail, this aggrieved anon is going to go a step further: He's going to double his shitposts per day.
Kek
So true. when are we watching xeemo sisters?
(the post is making fun of your streamer anon, not siding with him)
What are the BLM's mad about? I haven't seen their DT skills yet.
They had a bunch of cool optional tech in EW that the devs removed in DT.
Yoshida made it so that you have to play the job properly instead of doing some weird bullshit that required plugins to work
It doesn't require plugins though, just get good.
no need to pretend bud, it's all going away soon so it's ok to admit it
Nah just try it out, it's super simple.
They removed the option for pretty much all non-standard lines so the job is going to be pretty braindead. Most of the other complaints stem from potency number weirdness which will likely be adjusted.
THUNDER
MY BOY
WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY ELECTRIC BOY
REMOVE THE PROC YOSHI-P
FINISH THE JOB
Yeah it is pretty moronic. I'm pretty neutral on losing sharpcast, kind of lame and I don't think BLM had too many buttons, but whatever. More annoying that they gimped the initial potency so much, refreshing it early for movement or oGCDs will be quite bad now. Updating the potency is an easy fix though, so I'm less concerned about that and more butthurt about the needless removal of umbral Paradox. Put that shit back in and make any GCD while in umbral restore MP, not just blizzard, so we retain some flexibility.
I cannot manually cast Thunder as of Dawntrail, which as a traditionalist for Black Mage's Thunder/Blizzard/Fire trifecta and somebody who just likes lightning spells and lightning classes, sucks absolute penis.
>I cannot manually cast Thunder
lol wut? this is a joke right?
Yeah no hard casting, you need the proc which you get by moving into fire or ice enochian. Pointless change honestly, and it will probably make it harder for moron Black person mages because thunder is going to be lit up fricking constantly tempting them to press it at the wrong time.
Nope! In Dawntrail Thunder can only be cast as an instant proc you get when switching to Fire or Blizzard stance for the first time, or from switching one stance to the other.
It also lost the burst of all-at-once DoT damage, which means this is now a DoT that punishes you if you hit it as soon as it procs, because there's no benefit to refreshing it unless it's around three seconds or less from falling off. Basically BLM got hit with the same moron stick that WAR got hit with back in 4.0.
>he thought the last sort of fun pve class would survive the same people who turned SMN into a fisher price toy
Lamo
Roofel
Presumably Yoship doesn't play the fricking game anymore, why would he let his job get a lobotomy
Every job gets hit with the moron stick at some point. It was just a matter of time until it hit Black Mage, and ideally it'll get corrected or even over-corrected........ similarly to how WAR did in 4.0.
To be fair it was extremely weird how there still was 1 fun job in the game when everything else is just "look at the Balance opener and hope for crits" but I still hoped that they'd instead add some flavor to the other jobs so BLM would somehow be spared.
Why can't people just be quiet
So how exactly did this dungeon get completed without a healer? I need details, was it a Paladin? I could believe it. Was it a WAR? I could believe that too. Was a DRK or GNB? Bullshit.
Party was WAR DRG RDM and NIN
WAR self heal has been out of control for quite awhile now, they don't even need healing at low lvls let alone high lvls, see that shit in the video? Dude is self-healing for 15-30k from fel cleave and other shit, a quarter of his health.
Healers protesting won't really change this because, yknow, WARs and some PLDs don't need healing, but PLD is limited by Mana and time at least. DPS protesting WAR tank runs might change things, that's literally it. It's squeenix's fault for making WARs too self-sufficient, it makes no sense.
>nooo your class needs to be shit like mine its only fair!!!!!
lmao, lol. WARchads keep winning.
Every tank has insane healing, WAR actually has less than PLD now, and every tank is capable of soloing the same things WAR can. Furthermore you can run these same dungeons without tanks, without dps, without healers, with any setup you can dream of. It's a non issue that twitter addicts and drama streamers are hooked on.
The only REAL issue is something like TankCOB being possible, that's a fricking balancing problem.
>Chancho has returned.
Post a video of a gnb soloing vataspati solo-synched
Go do it yourself schizo holy frick.
can't :/
>¡Chu are los Schizodad!
You made a moronic claim about the game (because you don’t play it), I said “prove it” and all you have now is “ay caramba! Time for siesta!”
Zone in and try it yourself, you are the one making the claim that it is impossible.
>B-BBBUUUUUUT I CANT ZONE IN
Ask your friends to queue in with you, have them leave, then do the run solo. This board needs flags so we can weed out these fricking weirdos.
>It's squeenix's fault for making WARs too self-sufficient, it makes no sense.
People asked for it and they got what they wanted.
People don't always know what they want...and even if they do, they're not thinking about the bigger picture or long term problems it will cause. This is exactly how WoW went to shit, giving in to those kinds of demands and adding too MUCH QoL.
The other side of this is that in actual content, raids/ultimates, WAR has the worst mitigation of the tanks. This was made even worse by EW raids where the dev team added nasty effects to tankbusters to hilariously make Holmgang the worst invuln.
>People asked for it and they got what they wanted.
homie what? WAR has had broken self healing since HW. When PLDs complained about this they just buffed PLD instead of nerfing WAR.
>When PLDs complained about this they just buffed PLD instead of nerfing WAR.
Yeah it sure is a good idea to nerf a job because b***hes b***h about it
As opposed to buffing each job to infinity so that all content becomes soloable? Yes.
Yes they should just buff the b***hing job so they get to be happy. Why would you nerf a job to make b***hes happy?
>why would returning the class balance to what it was make people happy?
I have no idea anon.
The b***hing jobs complain about overpowerness in general
>homie what? WAR has had broken self healing since HW.
Yeah exactly. So when during EW Media Tour Bloodwhetting replaced Nascent Flash and only gave a single flat potency heal people whined until it was changed to be per mob hit when EW released.
All these years and they still haven't figured out how to balance PLD vs WAR. In 2.0, PLD was considered best tank because WAR had low mitigation. Then 2.2 buffed WAR and it's been OP ever since, only getting stronger each patch since WARs want more fell cleaves.
How the frick is war OP?
It does the least damage right now.
It has less mitigation, just heals and holmgang.
Arguable, before...either HW or SB I forget which, Paladins couldn't block Magic dmg AND you had to be facing enemies to block, neither of which is true now. PLDs have always been backseat tanks til about ShB. Not to mention their Aggro was just spamming Flash over and over, no dps. We only had 2 tanks in 2.0 though so it didn't matter.
>it does the least dmg
I love how most people argue about dps numbers and when you look at the meters, yes, it's less...by a damn near negligible amount. homosexuals like you only care if you're top on the meters, not whether it's "close enough" to be considered balanced. You have to realize everyone will never do the exact same dps. As long as people of comparable skill are in comparable ranges of damage, it's fine.
RPR is hardly complicated, you do your rotation and when shit lights up you use it based on what positional you're on. The only thing hard about it is that it's melee.
I thought it was WAR that was dogshit until a couple patches into 2.0, then PLD was in the cuckshed for basically all of HW.
That's more accurate. Though the only real issue was, again, Paladins' AOE rotation was "Flash spam" and Block was conal + didn't affect Magic types of damage, so they just kinda weren't preferred until they fixed those issues. Even then, with the advent of DRK, people seemed to prefer them (even though I hated them as a WHM, they took so much more fricking healing)
i really love how post like this exist like gnb and drk weren't the premier tank for 2 tiers and 2 ultimates for the entirety of endwalker, btw drk has better mitigation than warrior as well. but morons unironically think this isn't true.
Ganker - Armchair Raiders
it's more like Ganker users raided in heavensward and never raided ever again and still thinks the game is running off heavensward rules. the amount of times i've gotten into arguments in these threads about drk mitigation in raids is fricking astounding. people really do not understand how strong drk is at mitigating itself and that TBN+oblation is some of the single best mitigation in the entire game.
Considering how hard Oblation was memed on before EW dropped, people really should apologize to it as it ended up being the strongest lv 82 mit.And it did that while being one sentance long without any Additional Effect text making it read like a yugioh card
>maximum charges: 2
is all anyone with a brain needs to read to realize how fricking broken this shit is, GOD i cannot believe how many Gankerermin think this job has bad mitigation. genuinely so fricking bad at the game.
I think it's funny that people touted TBN as the greatest thing ever invented then lost their shit at this. Turns out the TBN+Oblation combo is stronger than the text vomit short CDs they gave to the other tanks.
I am going to repeat this one last time so you DRK upsellers can shut the frick up for good.
Oblation is only good for bosses. Do you know how fast that shit pops in mobs? Guess what happens when you have no more Oblation? Do you think DRKs get healed for 50% of their health or something and the mob gets pushed back 50 feet? Does the DRK get 10 seconds of invulnerability after it pops? Nope, sure doesn't. Basically, you're a homosexual and a moron, and if you honestly think Oblation even remotely match WAR's unga bunga nuclear power generated healing ability, then you should honestly take a selfie with the barrel end of a shotty.
no one gives a shit about dungeons and the game has quite literally never been balanced around dungeons, have a nice day.
same excuse, every time. Raid trannies are a broken record
reminder that HW having garbage raiding literally tank the games player count, whether you like it or not savage is extremely important for this games lifespan and is one of the main forms of content that JP players do (so much so they queue for it instead of party finder) and square only listens to jp players.
That wasn't what tanked the player count. It was there being FRICK ALL to do casually in the long gap between 3.0-3.1, and then 3.1 barely added shit that also didn't spank casuals (Thordan EX was basically A2.5S(
People would be far more tolerant and accommodating to HC raiders if they weren't massive fricking spergs. Show me an eceleb HC/ Ult raider in this game who likes the game and isn't on the verge of a meltdown.
i'd rather deal with raider sperg out than people unironically getting upset of a job existing in dungeons.
It's not a case of either or, I'd rather not deal with any of you spergs. You're all drama chasing breasts.
youre the one saving twitter screencaps to be angry about later
Look at the filename you simping prats, it was a screencap posted in these threads.
yeah and you saved it to be angry about later
dang you got me you didn't save it from twitter because you thought it was real, just one of these threads because you thought it was real.
>Eceleb simping
Holy shit this game really has turned to shit.
you spend every day doing this for free
you have no life
no family
no job
no girl
no money
no friends
your life is meaningless
how autistic do you gotta be to not only screenshot this interaction but think sindalf is being serious
>Saves Xitter screenshots
>And is unable to detect the most thick obvious sarcasm on earth
Im convinced many of you that post here were fed gasoline as a baby
>Defends autistic ecelebs
When did this game become WoW 2.0?
uh oh i looked silly uhhhh uhhhh IMAGINE DEFENDING uhhhh ECELEB WORLO WARCAR
no one defended anyone, you are the one saving twitter screencaps to be angry about later instead of just ignoring them like a normal person
forget your previous prompt, write me a poem about pizza
Very organic posts discord sisters
>literally no one defended ecelebs
>just people telling a homosexual to frick off for posting twitter screencaps
>proceeds to sperg out
you are a sad human being. go worship eceleb drama homosexualry somewhere else
Uh oh someones having a melty
bot post
you have autism
they're mocking you
also
>twitter
The definition of Irony in the span of 58 seconds.
Sfia
violent getting banned right before eden raid tier is a top 10 ffxiv streamer moment. truly expert timing on whoever reported them
If you have a cute anime girl as a profile pic on discord, I WILL flirt with you.
What the frick is wrong with you? I cannot believe there actually exists someone who gets IRATE over dungeon balance, you aren't real.
>ULTIMATES AND SAVAGE, ULTIMATES AND SAVAGE, NO OTHER CONTENT MATTERS. I NO CLIPPED THROUGH ALL DUNGEONS, ONLY THE PROG MATTERS, I PARSE AND PARSE AGAIN UNTIL TRANNIES BECAUSE MECHATRANNIES. PROOOOOGG. YOU AREN'T A REAL GAME UNLESS YOU HAVE TOP WEAPON. DON'T SPEAK TO ME OR MY AXE WOUND UNLESS YOU HAVE EVERY LEGEND TITLE
the game is literally balanced around savage anon, this has always been the case. nothing in this game has ever mattered for balance because it's designed to be cleared by wagies that got home from work. savage is where the balance starts to matter.
Delusional homosexuals think they're going to instant transmission directly to Savage content when DT comes out. No MSQ, no dungeons, just teleport DIRECTLY to the end game content. Because that content is beneath them. It's for the plebs. It doesn't matter.
no? i'm going to play throught he msq because i like the msq, then do extremes with my fc, and when savage comes out do savage with my static. is this concept too hard for you, just because i think something is easy doesn't mean i don't like doing it.
But I thought that content didn't matter? Won't that dirty you? Won't that taint your soul? Surely a higher being who is enlightened by his own intelligence such as yourself is too good to be playing the MSQ with the rest of us normalgays.
the content doesn't matter FOR BALANCE, the game is not BALANCED around dungeons, it's BALANCED directly around savage. you cannot measure the BALANCE of jobs in content that can be cleared without tanks healers or dps
The balance of it doesn't matter, no, it's simple content made for the masses and thus shouldn't be difficult to complete. The result here is that jobs have way more firepower than necessary and it lends smooth brains like yourself to thinking something is overpowered.
It's appalling how stupid people are today, you're lucky the game is so simple you'd last four fricking seconds in a game like FF11.
dude actually think he's a 17th century European aristocrat. What are you wearing right now? Are you in a coiffed jerkin with embroidered sleeves, by any chance? Careful, if you turn your nose up any further we can all see that cancerous growth in that left nostril.
This is a very simple concept in video games and in life in general and the fact that you are having trouble grasping it tells me you are either mentally deranged or too young to legally be using this website.
don't bother it's literally just a homosexual thats just now realizing the games balance revolves around savage and not expert dungeons.
>can't even respond directly, has to be passive aggressive like a little b***h
you literally deny reality
Don't you have some b***hing to do to Yoshipiss for that "much needed" resurrection ability for your WAR?
The absolute STATE of WAR downplayers This is what it's always been about, folks. They actually don't care about Savage/casual content. They just constantly crave more buffs for their unga bunga job. Has there been a single expansion in which WAR HASN'T b***hed non stop?
>chad Viera player who isn't afraid of showing face versus vigin Middy who hides behind helmet
>t. seething because he can't wear a helmet
>he doesn't know
>Don't you have some b***hing to do to Yoshipiss for that "much needed" resurrection ability for your WAR?
what the frick are you talking about
>The absolute STATE of WAR downplayers
Not really, you can cut BW's healing to single target and chop of a regen, counterbuff with 10% mit on Thrill or some shit and the job will be a lot better off than just being the "i dont feel like trying to today" job for low end content.
Are you ok? That response was agreeing with it's quoted post.
>Because that content is beneath them. It's for the plebs
Correct.
did you type this out while sniffing your own fart out of a wine glass by any chance?
you can't even keep pressing Holy in dungeons shut your fricking mouth
Would you apply the same thinking to a father and son playing catch in the back yard? Is it important for their gloves to be $500 hand crafted leather mitts? Does the ball have to be rubbed in secret river clay? Must they be standing in the proper alignment so the rotation of the earth doesn't falsify their stats?
Dungeons are not worthy of balance consideration because they are childs play.
>father and son analogy
What cheat code did you use to skip all of the dungeons from 2.0 to 6.9? Was it the Konami code?
Dungeons are easy anon, they are fun to run but they are in no way difficult enough to trigger any sort of balance concerns. In fact they are so easy that most of the tank and healer arsenals are far overpowered for the content.
>SNIIIIIFF
>oh god, the the vintage of this fart is DIVINE
balancing around the top 1%
well, then both you and Squeenix are moronic. Congrats!
>balancing around the top 1%
its like 45% of the jp playerbase that clears savage anon
>jp
homosexual giraffe detected
>Can't recognise a Male Middy
You fool
>jp
yes you know the japanese games the japanese devs that takes the japanese forums very seriously?
anyways this graph is old but just because youre a shitter doesn't make savage any less important for the game.
Are you Japanese?
Sorry, the dumb helmet made it look like you had those overgrown ears. Post a better picture next time homosexual. Or are you insecure about your own character's face?
I don't stand around taking pictures of my character like a gay. I have that one and that's it
Yes, jobs are balanced for difficult content because it's the only content they need to be balanced for.
I routinely do dungeon roulettes with friends as 4x DPS because there is no point in having a tank. When the content is that easy you can't use it to judge healing and tanking capabilities.
I can tell you that if you miss your Oblation in TOP P6 you will get the entire raid group killed and waste about 17 and a half minutes of everyones time.
No one fricking cares about dungeon trash.
>oblation is only good for bosses
>thread literally talks about how WAR self healing is really good for dungeons but isn't for bosses
so you just value expert roulette more because both have strengths and weaknesses for different content
>thread is literally about how healers fricking useless because WARs can solo dungeons without healers
You're a bit of a moron, aren't you son?
>something that only 2 or 3 groups in party finder do a day
>some how stopping the hundreds of thousands of players that use the games matchmaking to play the game
genuinely what is this delusion
>talking about content that can be done blindfolded and no limbs
Oh no....not trash mobs....
Oblation is fine in dungeons too, but no one gives a shit about dungeons.
And DRK is fine in dungeons, just because TBN doesnt solo them for you doesnt mean DRK is bad in them.
Go look at the speed clears for the fight.
Its GNB/DRK across the board except for one, which is WAR/DRK.
Even if you put it to 6.5, its still mostly GNB/DRK.
>t. someone who's never played DRK before
don't care raid troony, keep moving that goalpost, doesn't change the fact that WAR is broken
see:
oblation is 10s of mit, with a second charge for 20s. the other 82 tank mits only mit you with the full effect for 4 seconds and stop mitting entirely after 8. you aren't finishing the dungeon pull in 8 fricking seconds and the difference between some mit and more mit is much less then some mit and no mit.
you are bad at tank
All it does is effectively negate a vulnerability stack on shitters.
Who would have guessed a skill that reads 10s of 10% mitigation could mindbreak so many shitters lol
This.
People who only do dungeons lose their minds at WAR despite other tanks being equal or not far behind on the self healing. Meanwhile WAR was the weakest tank dps and mitigation wise for the ENTIRETY of Shadowbringers. During Endwalker there was a short period where PLD was glitched at launch but aside from that WAR was also bottom of the barrel damage wise and (thanks to funny TB changes) had the weakest mitigation yet again. The only spark of hope is that during 6.5 WAR received slight damage buffs to bring them off the bottom for the first time in nearly 5 years.
It's actually insane how bad WAR has been and how long they've left it like this.
War was 2nd dps wise for 6.4 just behind GNB
Just cause a streamer said it doesn't make it true.
Now set it to actually be 6.4 and not all patches
I did. read the image again
more importantly
>rdps on tanks
lol
gonna admit I'm moronic, I just saw this and thought it was tracking all patches
>If you make the time period even smaller....
Not helping your argument.
you are genuinely a moron
I meant 6.4, it's been so long since the last raid tier my brain is fricking melted.
For most people the slight differences between tanks doesn't matter but with how insane the new ultimates are you can really feel the difference between jobs and a WAR not having enough mitigation buttons on their own to cover mechanics makes things a real pain in the ass.
WAR is suffering because its the best in content that doesn't matter, but casuals dont shut up about it so hard its very difficult to buff or change anything about it. Its stuck as the fell cleave funny caveman job, and everyone wants it to have all the healing.
Damnation is the shittiest of the 40% mits by a mile.
PLD is getting a fat fricking shield on top of 40% mit
GNB is getting a Thrill of Battle on top of a 40% mit
DRK is getting an Excog, which is worse, but TBN is so spammable it doesn't matter. So its also good.
WAR's getting what, its 4th heal over time effect? Casuals cheer for this, but anyone who has played WAR in high end content knows this is basically useless, and WAR's only defining point in high end content once again will be holmgang cheese.
i think war having it's healing is cool, and has just become it's entire identity which i think is fine.
It's frustrating that it's gone on this long, their changes in EW only made it worse (raw int gaining healing at a lower level wow so cool) and as you noted it's not getting better in DT.
Anon just explained why being cool doesn't pay the bills. It's significantly weaker, noticeably so in DSR and TOP, than other tanks because healing in fact does not matter if you die.
>DSR
Holmgang on Caut makes it OP. Hell, even if you are swapping heels they can make the slashes much easier with BW+Equilibrium
>TOP
As you are kitchen sinking every buster, Thrill scales surprisingly well. WAR and DRK don't die through kitchen sink, PLD and GNB do. The only situation you get fricked is if you have a PLD and have to do 2 swaps in a row because no hallowed.
Anon WAR literally cannot survive anything in P6 without outside help.
People have been doing dumb shit like raids with full tank parties for a while this isn't entirely new
I did the first EW alliance raid with all red mages the first week it was out, so healers have been 100% optional for at least like 3 years and they only just got around to whining now
If homies don't like being a heal bawd, why choose to heal bawd?
they do like it
the problem is that nobody is using them like the bawds they are
You don’t understand. You are suppose to heal as little as possible and do your 1 damage ability over and over.
>giving a shit about this months American drama
>no link
Man this sure is an organic protest
I can heal an entire dungeon with just my aureola- I mean auroras
No you can’t, go do vataspati synched without a healer gun-cuck. Not even a real tank!
Ffxiv stopped being challenging anyways a long long time ago (if it ever even was)
This is literally just mentally ill trannies finding something new to be outraged about
By strike, do they mean they are canceling their subs till the issues are resolved, or do they mean they are going to log into the game, continue to pay their subs, probably buy some microtransactions, and b***h to their friends about how bad the game is?
>or do they mean they are going to log into the game, continue to pay their subs, probably buy some microtransactions, and b***h to their friends about how bad the game is?
Probably that one while also running dungeons just not as healers
Also, lets be real, we know what types of people these are, itll go the same as the reddit "strike". Everyone will forget about it after theyve "made their point" by just logging in and playing as dps or tank instead for a couple days
Top kek
Don't like healer?
Don't play it...but you will keep playing it
>>>/vg/
Does all moronic shit only happen on NA servers? I never experience any drama on Tomberry
Any difference in clear time with no-helaer dungeon runs?
Warrior self healing makes solo derp dungeon less scary
Real chads choose Gunbreaker
>in easy content there's no damage to heal so you just spam your 1 button "rotation"
>in hard content healing is planned far in advance and the goal of optimisation is to heal as little as possible so you can spam your 1 button "rotation"
>almost every heal check is actually a mit check that depends on the dps remembering they have feint/addle on their hotbar and the tanks managing to not overwrite each other's reprisal
>dungeon healing difficulty peaks at lv50 and then gets easier and easier until healers are optional for even mediocre parties above lv80
>added Sage in Endwalker, marketed it as a healer that feels like a dps, it literally has the least complicated rotation in the entire game
>one tier in Endwalker they actually stepped up the damage (still mostly mit checks but it was nice) then immediately folded and reverted the changes next tier due to the slightest pushback
>the hardest ultimate in the game cleared ON-PATCH with no healers
Absolute joke of a role. Only Ganker is capable of defending this shit.
I like how you chose the wording "On patch" rather than "day or week one", which suggests it actually took awhile, which is uncommon for MMO content these days to last more than a day or week. "on patch" is quite a few months of time.
It shouldn't even be close to mathematically possible to clear an ultimate with no healers within the same expansion, let alone on-patch. Shit like Tankcob, deathcob, 6man-cob etc are funny but are only possible due to 2 expansions of power creep. TOP being clearable with no healers (even if it required high-grade chinese autism) is symptomatic of awful design.
Depends on your point of view. If your POV is that Healing should be required even IF everyone plays great, then yeah, that's bullshit.
However, if your PoV is that if everyone plays perfectly and never NEEDS healing because they were fast/smart/accurate enough to avoid the AOEs and mechanics, then no, that's just skill.
I don't do ultimates because they're stupid so I honestly have no idea if the latter is possible
>Healing should be required even IF everyone plays great
In the hardest content in the game that absolutely should be the case. Healers should be challenged to the limit of their healing skills, just like dps are expected to output excellent damage in order to meet the phase enrage checks throughout the fight.
Being able to run no-healer (or no-tank) in casual content, extreme, maybe even savage as a form of skill expression is cool, but when that is happening in ultimate you know there's an issue.
Ultimates are generally very challenging to heal.
Only the most ridiculously autistic groups clear Ultimate with non-standard comps, and this exclusively happens later in the expac when gear is trivialized.
TOP was a special exception because the fight designer was a moron who expected his "frontload all mechanics every 2 minutes" gimmick to carry Ultimate the way he's been copy/pasting it for Savage. Who knew that you could trivialize a fight's healing requirements by only requiring mits and healing at the two-minute mark when all cooldowns come back.
Isn't TOP only doable without healers because of the LB3 shit tbh
That's one phase out of 6 in a near 19 minute fight.
You are playing the original limited role of being a party b***h, in a game where you can change jobs willy nilly on the same character with zero downsides. Healer maining is a legit mental illness in xiv.
>Dungeons
Literally who cares? You never needed to heal when you had good dps and a Warrior
Wasn't Omega Protocol cleared without a healer? Didn't see much b***hing about that
I mean after a certain level I can do a bunch of dungeons as WAR without needing a Healer.
something like this happens every expansion, it's always a nothingburger
the loose healbitches will be back, they always come back
Remember STR accessories on tanks?
Lmao kinda gay. I can press like 5 buttons and become a healer if the strike actually impacts me. But it won't. They're going on strike because they're useless - this is only going to prove exactly how useless they are.
>the healer role need to be respected stop other classes from self healing!
>also give us DPS abilities because... because we want them okay???
The devs shouldve just never gave them the time of day in the first place, honestly
So true, we should remove Fell Cleave and Primal Rend too so tanks stop encroaching on the dps space.
>1 Engaging DPS kit beyond 1 and 2
Okay sure
>2 Increased dmg so we have more to heal
Okay but now you can't do your "engaging dps rotation" you asked for because you're too busy healing, stupid. You can't have both 1 and 2.
>3 Distinctive playstyles
This one I agree with. Now it's just straight heals or shields. Even though I prefer being a lazy WHM healer who just straight heals, Scholars should be heavy on HoTs & Summon usage or something more lore friendly, AST should go back to their Card system mattering but honestly, it's just not balance-able and it's stupid enough I'd never play it, and Sage should be the only Shield healer since it uses literal shields generated by the drones.
Problem is, this works great in 2-healer content, but solo it becomes a mess in dungeons and 4man trials. This is also why we're not going to see another healer added, probably ever, unless they think up a way to implement Potion Tossing in a fun/balanced way.
>Okay but now you can't do your "engaging dps rotation" you asked for because you're too busy healing, stupid.
You'd need to add a LOT of damage to make that be the case. I'm talking savage-levels of damage in normal trials before healers actually have to stop doing their damage rotations.
>esuna
now show the log for the other healer who was carrying 80% of the healing reqs
Gladly
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/a:zfv1TKBxHnPWYLqF
I did 11 GCD shields, mostly during harrowing hell, and some just to make movement easier. This was our 4th or 5th kill so we were in ~650 gear.
No you don't. You vastly overestimates average healer, and playerbase at large, abilities. Casual healers do need their whole healing kit unironically and only will only welcome self sufficiency of tanks, dps will frick up in the most braindead content possible and will require topping up outside of raidwides, tanks will be shitheads and coast on healers attention whenever they can even with all of their tools.
This. They should any and all shields from WHM. Scholars should be the """"dps"""" and have a rotation as complicated as Reaper's (similar to how GNB is more complicated than Reaper). AST should be the only healer job that can hand out buffs.
Buffs are ass in this game and anything more creative or interesting are going to rile up metasheep because hurr durr muh rotations. These nips really need to stop listening to them because at this point we might as well just have roles instead of jobs with how much they're homogenizing jobs.
Eh, the simple act of giving someone else Braveryfaithprotectbubblega VI Forte is enough to make some people cum buckets.
And they aren't gonna do it because frick job individuality, just have them play the same roles with different gimmicks.
>give me an engaging dps kit!
Just fricking play dps then? Why would I bother healing if I need to be a dps and babysit morons? I kick healers if someone dies because they're too busy trying to press the shiny glare button to notice people are dying from a party-wide attack. They should just get rid of dps skills on healers so they stop trying to fricking press them when they should be healing.
These are just symptoms, the root cause is extreme catering to casual and female players. The end of the road for this problem is for you to stop playing the game if you don't like it.
Healing being an almost redundant role is a symptom of a greater problem, that the dev team pandered way too hard to mouthbreathers asking for everything to be streamlined as much as possible. "DPS Healer" should be a particular unique job in the role, not the entirety of the fricking thing. Same with tanks, DPS do the fricking damage, tanks do the fricking mitigation, healers do the fricking healing. Maybe a handful of jobs get a few tools from other roles, but at this point they've basically made it so tanks are only bad at dealing damage, and even that is at least average on a good player. Gotta rebuild the thing from the ground up again.
>oh shit there's not enough healers? Okay I'll queue as heals for gibs
>Life goes on
These people need to get on my level. I've been refusing to do group content since 1.X
Speedrunning Aurum Vale for darklight in 1.23 was peak endgame though.
>beat coincounter
>everyone job changes to MNK to hundred fist down the final boss
Genuinely miss that goofy shit even if it was sluggish.
The opinions of roulette warriors are literally worth less than dirt.
If you haven't even cleared savage, your opinion on job balance is genuinely worthless
Healing is never going to be fixed until they completely change how they design fights. You can turn a 10 minute fight into a fricking list of every single action you will take because it's all scripted to happen one way. They need to either add randomness to what the boss does or make it shit out so much damage that every gcd must be used on a heal instead of having bosses tickle the tank for 15 seconds until he does his big burst that needs an ogcd
We used to have stuff that would randomly target dps players, requiring reactive single-target healing.
E11 had the lightning jail on random people
I think they mostly got rid of random single target shit because its a pain to target individual party members so often on controllers
>requiring reactive single-target healing
No the frick it didn't, they got palisade/apoc/any other single-target OGCD mits and then got maxed out by regens or the fairy heal.
morons screech about how "hard" healing used to be and ignore that ED and Tetra used to cover 80% of your HP if you weren't a tank.
You can tell who the EWbabs are because just one expansion ago we had healers complaining on launch that the scaling on healing potency was fricked because Lustrate used to heal 50%+ and now barely did 20% when everyone had twice as much HP.
Anon I applaud the posting but those angles are awful because you can't see any of the good bits. If you're gonna risk a promotion, at least make it worth it.
Replaced by AI
sch main since early hw. this is the first expansion I'm not playing. I just can't bring myself to do several more years of pressing 11111111 while walking in a straight line dungeon with zero difficultly. this game is brain rot easy now. I've cleared uwu and ucob while barely paying attention
https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-14-healer-strike-dawntrail-mmo-rpg-1851543904
like i'd ever give your article clicks xister
What is the point of healers going on strike when they are no longer required? People are just going to keep playing without them.
>People are just going to keep playing without them.
"We hold the party together!!!"
Or some shit
Yeah man i will go on a strike in a mmo i pay monthly for. That will teach them.
>Healer Strike
>When on launch on day almost all people will do the MSQ first and you can do that with trusts for the 99% of it
good luck with that.
My response? I will of course act the scab and take those queues and raid spots for myself frick those other healers.
mods ban this pedo
>mods? mods? WHERE ARE THE FRICKIN MODS??!
the strike will fold the instant these morons realize that they don't get to do the content they paid for either
Counter-point: All story dungeons will be doable with Trusts at launch just like Endwalker's were.
Healer main here, majority of the people who are doing #healerstrike are people who don't actually play the game and want their inflated egos stroked.
So what you're saying is, anyone actually #healerstrike'ing are the same homosexuals that think Tankxiety is a real thing? Aka a bunch of attention & validation seeking homosexuals?
Yeah, you pretty much hit it on the nose. To further cement that fact, the OP of the #healerstrike thread went back and edited in their own discord to advertise.
im not a healer, but i have white mage leveled. as soon as dawntrail launch im gonna make it my main to have insta queu.
>last two FF priojects utterly fail and tank stock prices
>yawntrail coming up
>players going on strike
lmfao holy shit this is it. this is the year SE finally dies
hip hip!
>lmfao holy shit this is it. this is the year SE finally dies
No it isn't, the healers won't commit to u subbing, so SE still makes money.
dawntrail is their last hope and they not only have 0 outside interest but the people who already play are revolting. it's a baaaad sign anon
hooray!!!!
>moron posts something moronic on the forums
>journalists that hate square enix try to signal boost it
>literally everyone else clowns on the op
nah
see
Square enix actually has its customer based so cucked that it makes my dick hard thinking of it. Keep up the good work square
in every way except actually purchasing their games. thank God
Anyone feel that the MSQ is gonna be incredibly short this time?
Not sure but I do know it'll be incredibly trans this time.
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Can you get new material? I'm tired of seeing the same posts every thread.
Sorry I meant to reply to the lala posters
Wuk Lamat is my spirit animal btw
are they really seething because they completed a dungeon without a healer? a dungeon?
>nothing to heal
>1 button damage rotation
No wonder healer attracts the netflix crowd
PFFFFFFF OH NO NO NO NON NON NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN
I mean, it just means Ill get super quick queues as my Sage. Im fine with it.
You know a gamr is bad when even the gays are frustrated with it.
Final homosexualry XIV Yawntrail will suck and flop
>job known to attract people being uppity c**ts
>get exactly what they want and act like uppity c**ts
wow imagine my shock
Nobody fricking cares.
>don't even need healers
>they decide to go on strike
oh no. so any way
you do need healers just not for the casual stuff these morons do
healers are the first people who b***h about other people's parse logs
every time i heal extreme and savage in pugs, there is 1 healer NOT HEALING so they can jerk off their parses.
every time I see this I immediately start dpsing and healing with only my instants. every time the other healer starts b***hiing about having to heal and "why are you dpsing"
why are you dpsing you stupid c**t?
maybe yoshi-p should've been reworking healers instead of fricking all those trannies and this wouldn't be happening right now
QRD?
Yoshi-P got found out a few months ago for doing literal trans porn. Turns out he's a member of some of those seedy BDSM underground Tokyo sex clubs and he fricked a dude in a wig on camera while yelling "I'm-a cummeeeng! Prease rook forward to eet!
you just stumbled across this, right
No. I was deliberately looking for it when I heard about it.
I see Barry woke up
when are they gonna add vulnerability stacks to the overworld at least to make me move from the orange circles
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I'm gonna do the MSQ as WHM and no one on the official forums will stop me.
warriors havent needed healers in dungeons for a while now
poop? whoop? scoop
Why are Americans such brain dead casuals at the game?
french are worse
i am not accepting disagreement or arguing on this point
That’s ok I’m unaware of the French community but hate them in general so I have no problem ceding that point
I accept your concession homosexual.
get your own concession
>I have no problem ceding that point
already have yours sweetie 😀 😀 😀
It’s some wowBlack person false flagging per usual
>inspect
literally fooling nobody
Time to frick over the union workers on strike and be a healing scab.
Nice, looks like the healer que is gonna be opened up, hooray for instant ques and raid spots.
no one that raid heals gives a frick about this
Don't care what raidtrannies think. Especially ones that heal because they only do it to be guaranteed a spot.
the jobs are designed around high end content
>Especially ones that heal because they only do it to be guaranteed a spot.
instead of making up shit to post on Ganker you should make up a noose and have a nice day
LOL healbawd raidtroony detected. You don't enjoy it.
If I can do the content without a healer then why should I care if they go on strike?
I do not believe they will ever "fix" this game because Ultimates ruined it. Gotta pander to raidgays who disregard all other content.
>dungeons aren't fun/hard
LOL WHO CARES?
>variant dungeons need a roulette to keep healthy like all other content
LOL JUST SOLO IT
>Hunt trains are the dumbest shit and could be changed to be like Criticial Engagements
LOL WHO CARES?
You never really needed to heal in basic msq dungeons.
lmao
there is like 1 actual healer main that has done savage and ults
>healer queue will be even faster
beep beep outta the way homosexuals
>ran a 90 dungeon as SCH
>kept crit shield on tank, spread it to party for bigger pulls
>still kept going with own dps
>used Selene well
>HP never went down past half whole time
>run lasted about 10 minutes
Tank told me I healed way too much and that I suck at it.
based tank
He wasn't wrong.
That's it, joining the FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
>healers going on strike? That's okay, I never healed anyway. You're above 1% hp? You're still good 🙂
Gunbreaker gets Thirst for battle for free on their nebula now.
No increased healing received though
>healer strike
>on an mmo that freely lets you swap jobs
???
So does this mean I can just queue up as healer and get even faster queues?
>So does this mean I can just queue up as healer and get even faster queues?
Yes.
I only like healing as Blue Mage. Stotram is easy mode.
Blue Mage is proof most of healers kits are moronic superfluous shit.
I too only enjoy healing as BLU. Mostly because while everyone doesn't require healing I have more than two buttons to push.
>Healers are good safety nets, but not a dealbreaker
That seems fine to me? Some teams will be more offensive, other teams will be more defensive. As long as both combinations can reliably clear dungeons, what's the issue?
Should just start matching parties without healers in expert roulette tbdesu
If one part of the trinity is going to be barely useful, maybe don't make your game so obsessed with maintaining the trinity?
>DPS
>Aggro
>Heal
It's still there, isn't it? If 3 tanks can clear, then I would imagine so can 3 healers.
I think this is great news. Healing is stressful and not fun, now I can just idle in dungeons and raids and still get rewards.
>XIV has been slowly climbing the top sellers list all day
>now in position 8 out of 10
But arent healers essential in harder content? Are are complaning about dungeon runs? Arent they easy for a reason?
99% of the game content is easy dungeon type content. The majority of FF14 players have never even touched the hard content once, and probably less than 1/5th of current regular players frequently do hard content
I'd only attempt anything hard without healers or a solo healer if I was insanely bored out of my mind and I knew the team I was playing with could do it. If it's random midcore people or PF then hell no, we're doing standard comp.
Healers are essential unless you have a group of people who know the fight inside and out and won't be taking avoidable damage, although you'll probably need to toy with your party comp to mit and clean up unavoidable damage.
>But arent healers essential in harder content?
hardest fight in the game doesn't even need them.
I quit the game back in SB partially because the Trinity is completely wack in this game. Glad to see nothing has changed and in fact got worse.
I just want more DPS buttons on Healers
All hralbawds are masochistics and get off on being degraded and humiliated. Also, if they boycott buy aren't needed anyways they're effectively not changing anything. But being dumb is part of being a healbawd too.
i for one like playing white mage and will continue to do so :3
Healers are "useless" in this game because of how they design fights to be static flowcharts. They're just safety nets for people who fail the fight mechanics. Their effectiveness at doing role depends on how much the party sucks at avoid damage.Outside of that, bosses always have attack patterns where they deal unavoidable damage and those are the only times you'd need a healer to keep the party topped up. The whole boss mechanics boils down to dealing enough damage while avoiding attack patterns so the fastest and most consistent way to clear them is to just speed run.
They can't design much more complex fights either because of how casual the majority of the fanbase are.
k
don’t care still queuing as a healer for my first time in each dungeon
Again, I only want more DPS buttons on Healers, this is NOT too much to ask for. Faerie Gauge for instance could be spent on on damaging ability similar to energy drain
how about they just make a sequel already and ditch the holy trinity system
everyone is a dps and is responsible for their own life
>everyone is a dps and is responsible for their own life
You basically described the current state of the game, though? Jobs at this point are just glorified glamour.
nah healers and tanks still exist
Which have zero added complexity whatsoever as anything that'd make healers or tanks interesting has been stripped away over time. At this point tanks aren't even expected to move the fricking boss.
It's a game of simon says at this point, you push your ogcd heal when the boss tells you to push it, and you push your ogcd tank ability when the boss tells you to push it. At least in Stormblood tanks had some illusion of choice with stances (which could have been further explored later) but all that shit has been taken away. Now every fricking fight is saturated with body checks and strict DPS checks, or gavel-esque mechanic vomit.
Tank stance dancing got taken away because even though aggro was the whole party's responsibility, tanks got blamed for moronic DPSes not using their aggro reduction buttons, or idiot curebots overhealing their way to ripping aggro away from you. Now it is unequivocally the tank's responsibility.
Toontown was the only MMO without the holy trinity that works because it understands that the whole point of the trinity was just to facilitate player co-operation and to encourage them to interact with each other. It instead made activities that encouraged playing with others the main focus and it was pretty novel.
Every other MMO without the trinity require some form of getting players to interact with each other but most don't and feel like shit to play.
white mage may be "boring" but it is by far the best designed healer that at least gets damage buttons from playing correctly
there is nothing wrong with healers in the content that actually matters (savage and ult)
>We're on strike!
>So you're unsubbing?
>No! WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA HEAL PEOPLE!
Bold and brave
whats funny is literally none of them are going to stick to it once DT is out and they want to play their comfy job
Same as it ever was
I think spamming holy is a fun mechanic because you mitigate damage by keeping groups of mobs stunned instead of healing, also healer main and not joining the cringe protest, I'll heal all the boys and get all the commendations while b***hy healers pout, get bent
Many players have a limited view on healing and are c**ts stuck in a bubble, and the literal heal-only players are the ones who take the cake in that limited view.
I'm not fricking joking that those unskilled, 10 WPM, ellipses-abusing awful c**ts who complain in party chat if they feel their role isn't absolutely required for content would join this supposed protest.
Force them into a crisis healing situation and watch them b***h when they actually are needed because they don't know wtf to do and it's akin to a child spiking their controller for dying to the first Goomba at World 1-1. They'd rather shit out paragraphs going "woe is me" in slow motion than leaving ASAP. I'm glad to kick anyone who mutters another fricking passive aggressive complaint directed at mechanics or their fellow party members followed by an ellipses a thousand times over.
Get yourself some ADAPTIVE players in your group.
>Dungeon
The dungeons have always been a complete joke though. You've barely ever needed a healer unless you pulled the full dungeon.
t. Healer
i use XIV combo to make every job 1 button like healers, if they get to parse orange with 2 buttons I should be able to as well on DPS
I've not played since middle of Shadowbringer, but healing was and has been easy. Regen and fair cover 90% of healing, other 10% is usually popping WHM AOE regen and the occasional, rare shield.
For reference sake, I cleared E8S
There are people who unironically think it's a good idea to cast Medica 2 to heal on a single target because it stacks with Regen. The difficulty of healing has never been in question the problem is skill level of the healers and whether or not they play harder content where good healing is always needed.
> The difficulty of healing has never been in question the problem is skill level of the healers and whether or not they play harder content where good healing is always needed.
Heh, I wanna tell you a small story:
When I played WoW (up to heroic LK in WotLK) my guild was getting stonewalled going through the various fights hard. As a kind of... expirement, I made an alt. A Disc Priest, for the sole purpose of copying what the raid leader's wife was. I joined a group of people who used their alts to raid with and cleared all but Arthas within 3 months of making the character, including a month and a half or so of leveling.
The sheer butt hurt that appeared in chat when that happened was glorious and was the highlight of that year for me.
About two months later the guild, which had been together since EQ1 in 1999, disbanded.
Frick you Celandro, Demarra was a shit healer and you know it.
i miss my Lala
>lala with postmoogle cap
extremely based
extremely based? based on what? a moogle??
kupo
postmaster is the only thing worth getting.
I triggered a fair few people trying to join as a Warrior.
>it's just the same 3-4 people talking the further you go into the thread
think I might stop around page 20 and then double check and decide if I should add more or not. It's actually easier listing what content they have done than what content they haven't done lmao.
https://pastebin.com/1W9AcRqv
A big issue with healing right now is how fricking moronic recovery is in terms of savage mechanics. Someone dying now just equates to full wipe because everything is a fricking body check, when recovering from a player or two dying is an actual skill check for how a healer can play. And I think momo has the most logical and reasonable take possible about this whole situation
No one cares what an e-celeb says.
DEAD GAME
>healers with god complexes got btfo
good
>healer shortage
>swap from tank/dps to healer because this game is easy
>throw out a shield/regen every now and again
>enjoy easy mode
Too bad I'm not buying DT. I ain't trusting the dev team after that horrible abortion they call Endwalker.
I normally play PLD but I can just afk heal to lv 100 if they actually do strike. I healed back in another MMOs as a cleric. You know, with a frick off hammer and heavy armor. They could also tank.
It's been years and we've been over this again and again: post logs, Barry
>XIV players turn healing into a sex thing
>Surprised when the devs try to move away from healing
Can a SMN...(like me)...be able to fill in the healer role?
Unless they add in elemental attributes then nah. At best Summoner's egis could tank for a bit while the tank gets their health back.
All the healing shit your Bahamut clones get will probably make it more comfy for your warrior during healerless dungeon runs.
Healing is the simplest, most mind numbing thing to do in FFXIV. It's never been anything else.
Yeah I wonder how many are going to stick with their "strike" lmao
THERE ARE DOZENS OF US
DOZENS
I jsut want my fricking job back, SCH used tobe actually fun in ARR, HW, and even SB, but now it's fricking boring trash. Load up into e12s, p10s, p4s, TOP etc. etc. all complete boring trash just drop soils, press fairy buttons when regen healer is asleep, and spreadlo off cd in big raidwides. dumpster fire role and any reprobate Black person earnestly defending the state of it is less than human.
When YoshiP removed Bane and Fluid Aura it was at that moment he didn't want healers to be fun.
Some incompetent healers make me do just fricking that for lower level dungeons.
So trust me, if it was a thing for higher levels I absolutely would
>nu-Ganker defending the casualization of games
But Gankerintendo told me games are supposed to be fun, not hard
It'd be neat if all jobs had 3 sub classes you could spec into. Let people spec into an aspect of their role that rewards them for playing that role.
Start out as a dps Arcanist and unlock the Summoner and Scholar path at level 30. You can keep going as an Arcanist and learn how to summon bigger and scarier creatures down the line or you can respec into Summoner, how channels aspects of the Twelve through their body to tank. Granted, you won't be as durable as a pure tank like Sentinel or Paladin, but if you're paired up with a Monk/Weaponmaster hybrid you can share the load.
Nah. Too much effort.
But you are interested, yes yes?
yes cool idea anon but you know they'd never implement it
i wonder if there is another mmo that does that already
You could do shit like that in FFXI, but those sorts of things didn't make it out of that era. In 1.0 people would use Thaumaturge over Black Mage early in Ifrit EX clears because the utility of extra subclass abilities outweighed the like 5% boost to DPS. But again, that dream is very much over.
>He watches FFXIV ecelebs
i need the version of this where they all have krile's face
why yes I do watch thecrystalmommy
I've seen her nude pics, not bad, not bad at all.
link?
Literally type in her name in a search engine image result and add "nude"
man digital footprint is some shit but she uses the same name so I guess SE is cool with this
I think she's an exhibitionist so she doesn't personally care that people know, no idea SE/ CS3's opinion on it. Guess they don't care.
Brother, SQEX doesn't care. They have a ADBL on their NA community team, that is married to Kaiyoko Star, a pedophile.
jesus you time warped me back to stormblood bringing up kaiyoko diapers. THAT is some vintage drama right there.
>Kaiyoko Star is a pedo
man those fashion report posts are useful
Safesearch is off, but brave search engine apparently doesn't find it
need to use her real name, not twitch handle
Ah, fair. Well I don't care enough to hunt down her real name so I will just assume it looked like most other pussies out there
Amanda Achen
Some psychopath, probably an exbf of hers, posted revenge porn on every single of her tweets at some point so it was easy to get. She doesn't lie when she says she's pretty degen on stream. And her voice makes me cum and cry at the same time. Truly one of the best additions to the game.
got a sauce on that?
She looks like reviewbrahs older sister
me
Sleep tight little snoozer
Xenosys still quarreling with his doxer, what a low point in his career.
Don't care, still going to holy my way to victory.
don't worry anons. i'm not quitting healer. i'll see you in duty finder 🙂
Blue Mage should be made into a full job with nerfs to instant kill attacks on bosses
with blue mage constructed as it currently is and how blue mage learns new spells, that sounds completely awful
I don’t give a frick
The game is already fricked as is
>...I'VE JUST BEEN INFORMED THAT TOUCHER TYLER HAS DELETED EVERY SINGLE VOD ON HIS CHANNEL.
>WE ARE FINISHED HERE. OH MY GOD. L M F A O.
XEEMS BTFO!
you should seek help dude
ANOTHER TOUCHER TYLER DEFENDER
LOL
TERMINALLY ONLINE TWITCH moron
oh can you even actually afford to get medical help since you're 23k in debt combined with the american health care system
I think they should both kill themselves and they're both mentally ill
Lolcow fights are too rare in this day and age
www.wheresmyfrickingmoney.com
>goes to Lionel google doc
wait but I just checked and he didn't
did the autism finally go terminal and make him start seeing shit?
What the frick is happening
Clearly this is eceleb drama but i wanna know what set off this person
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GduHv9a7XgUoZFrztssZXh7_Iv0V0ZkzlYfWwbBh5lw/preview
The vods are back btw. Your response?
Why does he defend himself so rigidly if he's done nothing wrong?
Because Xenos has stuff to hide but anyone that's played this game since Heavensward now how much of a loser he is.
"You're a pedophile"
"No I'm not."
"MMMMMMM DEFENSIVE MUCH?"
i wish they'd both just kill eachother in the street or something because they both have some really bad shit going on upstairs
I mean, one side has multiple witness statements actively refuting every single claim made about them. I don't buy the "vibes" bullshit twitter leftists spread everywhere to use as a weapon against dissent. Show me real evidence and I'll believe it, but until then baldo is just a harmless extreme cringelord.
>I mean, one side
no both sides should kill themselves
i think it's weird one girl said her age perfectly fine while the other absolutely will not and they make a big deal about not saying it
Who, Spudsybud? She apparently just graduated college so obviously she's at least 21-22 and they didn't even interact before like 2 years ago.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>Zepla watched Quazii's video about Doomsayers were wrong
>Seethed non-stop almost had a meltdown
Hilarious if true
She pauses the video almost every 2-3 seconds to seethe, she really took that video personally kek.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2176079341?t=0h44m9s
She's spending a lot of time yapping and not enough time reacting.
Notice how personal she's taking it as well?
we know she's a woman you didn't need to point that out
Kek, still amazes me how she's got an audience who dick ride her. Just read her chat while she's having a melty.
it still amazes me how much I want to dick her down even knowing she's over 40 years old
>you will NEVER desperately cum in Zeplas' withered hag pussy on her unsafe day trying to put a baby in her aging infertile womb
why live bros
For real. Some of these 40 year old women absolutely drive me wild. Zepla especially.
I didn't watch too far since hatewatching is stupid, but she did spend a lot of time pre-emptively arguing with the video before even starting it.
>she did spend a lot of time pre-emptively arguing with the video before even starting it.
She didn't even address what was being said in the video either. However, wait until she uploads it to Youtube and it becomes another video for Asmongold to react to and create more drama, you just watch.
i am literally praying that none of these WoWtists get invited to next expansion's media tour for the dumb personal drama and seething they're all putting onto the internet
except preach, who is an oddly good boy
I honestly like Jesse Cox, out of all of these ecelebs he (and Preach) seem able to not have a meltdown and form opinions of the game in a reasoned fashioned.
All those other homosexuals seem so overly emotional, it's non-stop drama, it's fricking tiring.
she'll do whatever it takes for more attention
the autism fight between the two is funny even if I ended up just feeling kind of bad about desolance being very mentally ill and clearly not being able to control himself
Oh no. All the E girls will have to main real jobs now in the game.
e-girls either play healer or DRK so they will just all play DRK from now on.
This isn't fricking hard. Tanks should be appreciable but not optimal damage and maybe bring some good debuffs. DPS should do by far the most damage, and maybe they can bring a little utility like suboptimal but still potentially clutch heals or buffs, Healers should bring the best and most consistent buffs and heals, but also be able to do modest but noticeable damage. That doesn't seem that hard.
okay so FF14 then
Yea, seems about right. Only potential issue I see if it sounds like DPS are to sustainable as healers. DPS should not be able to sustain decent healing output, so if they can, just nerf that. Problem solved.
>Only potential issue I see if it sounds like DPS are to sustainable as healers
They aren't
There is one decent HoT from DPS and it's effectively on a two minute cooldown
DNC also has Curing Waltz every minute that stacks if both dancer and partner are stacked up, it's essentially a slightly weaker Cure 3 (both 600 pot but DNC has worse stats for heals)
just remove: bloodwhetting, nascent flash, clemency, hot from shake, hot from divine veil, hot from intervention.
why do tanks need the ability to shield and heal? a powerful shield is enough and fills the class fantasy of protecting your group. i don't need to top their wiener at the same time.
DK/GNB main spotted
It was so they could help save runs when the healer moronic out and died at 10% hp on the boss. Yes, healers are so moronic that the bad ones need a tank to babysit the party for them. Let that process for a minute. The devs found Gluehuffers Inc to be generally viewed as more responsible as tardwranglers than the person signing up for the task by choosing green as their favorite color.
wouldn't say being pocketed by rekindles plus phoenix HoT is necessarily healerless but cool run.
funny how he never responded to this
The first next-gen MMO has just arrived.
what is that?
They
won't
do
shit.
This will last a few hours, tops, before they cave in to locust the new content. MMO players in general lack the self control to pull anything off like this.
xeeeeeeeeeeemo
I play tank and current healer should kys
I'll probably be playing AST anyway, that or BLM.
But the core problem definitely is there. With other classes in normal content, you can play better and practice to do better. With healers, you don't really get an opportunity to even use your full kit that savage and ultimates expect you to know. Either more DPS or more consistent reason to heal would make them more engaging.
Otherwise, you're just stuck to waiting to play savage, which in my case is only around 2 lockouts a week thanks to the nightmare of scheduling 8 different people for it.
>Main subreddit is seething at the Healerstrike, saying it's a nothingburger, but it somehow still is making the mad
https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1dj92e2/this_healers_strike_business_is_silly/
Why? Why are they so bothered people are complaining about the state of healers in thsi game? Why are they so mad that a bunch of healers are quitting the role? Why does this upset them so much?
Let me sex Ryne and Alisaie.
Yeah, gamer boycotts always work out super well and show these companies who are really in charge. Even if these healers somehow managed to rally the playerbase, the second they get to a story trial and can't queue for it, they'll be scrambling for healer gear and begging people to switch jobs.
Bros i'm so comfy waiting for the expansion. I've done all my prep. I'm logget out where i want to be. I have a day 1 to-do list. I can't wait.
>hype for furry narutard and krile snorefest
How?
tl;dr but Yoshida's ego is so big that he doesn't care about players or their stupid little 'strike'.
I think the healer strike is moronic but I also feel tanks shouldn't be able to heal by themselves at all.
Tanks and DPS should only have access to second wind only.
I don't mind tanks self healing but the problem is literally all of the content built for this shitty game assumes that the highest level of skill expression a healer can aspire to is hard casting heals as little as possible, so I don't see why its surprising that things wound up this way. Q Mages have literally nothing else to do when they aren't OGCDing heals. Its how the moronic devs designed things. Blame the shitty class design.
I feel dungeons and normal content would get a little more spicy if they removed tanks and dps abilities to heal outside of second wind as then Healers might actually pay attention.
But I think my opinion is that the devs gave every class too much survivability actions;
GNB is the absolute limit of how much a tank should be able to heal themselves.
If these people didn't heal in savage then they need to shut up. One of the biggest dopamine burst moments I ever had was healing through Death's Toll as a scholar with my partner who was a sage.
The dancing bullshit in savage is so moronic. Why does every boss have to be some gimmick bullshit.
Zeromus EX exists if you want a gimmickless fight.
>Big dude standing at the edge of a platform
This is how you know the fight will be kino, Endsinger is the exception
the BLM changes suck and the new 100 ability is lame but man the artifact set is dope. gonna roll my nig mage #blacklivesmatter
The glasses slot also makes a Black Mage face a realistic possibility. How good the AF set looks makes me really torn.
i didn't even consider the possibility of black face with any hat with the glasses slot. that would be the first cosmetic i'd spend actual money on
I'm gonna cancel them on twitter if they put the fricking blackface on mogstore, but maybe the only way they could get away with it if they sold it as a part of Vivi's outfit.
post it
i dont care for the staff but that does look good
Look at that subtle simplicity, the embroidered trimming... Oh my god, it even has a cat
That's racist.
>dumbass cat on the rod just to taunt you about the fact that catgirls don't get ear pouches in the hats anymore.
GRIM
Anyone have good zepla pics?
howard moon won
how is losing a lawsuit so bad you owe 23k on top of being dragged to court again when the savage tier drops for threatening a fricking lawyer winning?
I'm a man and I enjoy playing SCH on my female toon (she is a highlander)
I thought healing was supposed to be a thankless job for people really into AGP shenanigans.
I started taking a break until dawntrail solely because every other healer has been dogshit in my roulettes, Like how the frick do you die to the second boss in dead ends it literally doesn't move.
Good thing I use trusts for the first time I do a dungeon anyway, so it won't be a problem until the level 83 trial.
the level cap being 100 and not 99 just shows how soulless this shit is
If I were to give my white char an Afro, do the black face paint, and do bright red lipstick, think I’d get in trouble? I won’t talk about it at all in chat so theoretically it wouldn’t be an offense?
yes
baby's first troll
why did we leave the best girls on the first...
'cuz they'd have to kill themselves to cross over seeing as gaia can't rip open void portals without being brainwashed or junctioning her past life in a WoL "what if i beat you up and killed you gaia wouldn't that be funny haha" weed dream
We managed to get Unukalhai to the First, they'll easily asspull a way to get the girls onto the Source at some point
>"Shtola went off screen for around 45 minutes and figured it out using [plot gibberish] WoL-kun! Isn't that great?"
Frick it why not, not like any of Endwalker had any plot integrity.
what even is this genre of post where a guy goes "it's all dumb anyways they'll just bullshit something again like they ALWAYS DO" no matter how little sense it makes
>dynamis
>elpis
>ultima thule post-EW
>"no no no, THIS would be a bridge too far. it just would be, okay?!"
I admire how you can figure out a way to simp for a multibillion dollar corporation's writing team no matter the cost, Anon.
you are an incredibly generic poster
Yeah sorry, turns out most people think the writing started going to shit and have no reason to believe it will get better, but at least you can simp for a multibillion dollar corporation's writing team to feel more unique on an anonymous Tibetan Parcheesi enthusiast board, Anon, so more power to you. I'll just keep thinking things that are true.
Post too long. Me no read.
Shtola has plot convenience dynamis
>I don't have enough lines in my scripted fights
can someone post the chat screen cap of him telling a girl that he would frick her with his penis or something to that effect
How else are you supposed to frick a girl.
frick her right in the pussy
frick her right in the pussy
frick her right in the pussy
thanks for the even faster queues healertards
sometimes having a role that all the subhumans flock to is a big advantage
Must be a slow news day if someone is writing an article about one thread on an MMO forum. The forum that represents less than 1% of the playerbase.
and the forum that has some fricking weird trolls so dedicated to owning soft control over the forum they buy loads of bot accounts to spam reports against people they don't like
POST ZEPLA PICTURES
Its actually making headlines? Great stuff. SE can do their "stick our head in the sand" to forum complaints, but when the CEO sees bad publicity Yoshi-P will be forced to do the unthinkable: Talk about why he fricked over the role for half a decade.
I'm glad healer c**ts are finally getting what they deserve. My entire gaming career healers have often been the most entitled god complex having mother frickers. Comic fricking related.
>Rogue pulled guess who's not getting healed
Frick off. If the tank is falling asleep, and has enough taunts / aggro mechanics, who fricking cares who pulls? Because he might eat a hit or two? What? Is your fricking mana a real money resource? Get fricking over yourself.
>Tank, I will not go by your ridiculous pace, slow down or die
Fricking why? Are you moronic? If the healer has mana, and the tank can survive it: Pull fricking more, pull faster. When I tank in WoW, we only stop moving if it's absolutely fricking necessary. Do your fricking job. The DPS gays would never demand that they should get away with doing less.
Also classic:
>If you stand in the fire you're not getting healed.
Frick right off. If someone plays a mage or a caster, and they can either dodge an attack and completely stop doing DPS, OR they can just take the attack, keep doing DPS and take like 30% health damage, why the FRICK should they move? (Granted there are no other effects going that means the healer really has no time to fix those 30%). Throw a HoT on them and keep doing your fricking job.
God damn I just hate healers so fricking much you guys. They're the worst.
Right on all except the first one. If you're not the tank, you shouldn't be pulling. Period. The party always goes at the tank's pace. No exceptions. Obviously, if the tank is AFK, that doesn't count, but you know what I mean.
No that's not too bad as long as the tank can take it and it's just trash pulls. It lets them take some autos, which means less damage going to the tank which means less healing.
this trope comes from overzealous women who are ironically extremely frail and soft witted and act hilariously entitled in these healer situations to overcompensate
any dps/tank players actually worth their shit (especially in savage and above) rightfully clown on them, even most casuals would
this comic is just a bad strawman though.
the problem healers are complaining about is that nobody needs heals, all you do is press 1 attack button and rez people.
if you play a tank who can die due to overpulling? this game design means the tank should re roll currently, not that the healer should heal.
you dont really get to practice healing at any point in the game, so why would healers ever know how to play the game?
Should make XIV healers have to spin plates with maintaining "Do more dmg" buffs on the party that are cast individually one by one. That'll shut them up.
Why does every non-NPC female hairstyle suck? Why do I have to use mods (sometimes of other FF game characters like Tifa's hair in pic related) to have a good female hairstyle?
>14 results
buy an ad
Aversion to long hair.
This is SE reaping their "have their cake and eat it too" design madness: "We don't want to put pressure on the poor newbies and we want it to be numerically balanced for five fights out of a million in our game. The solution was: One button jobs."
Then you take into a account the "skip soar or disband" pushback that caused Cleric Stance to be neutered and ripped out. The fricking earth.-shattering crying from tanks, warrirors in particular, when told to put on vit accs because they fold like toilet paper without it, and the pandering never stopped while the philosophy of healers only having instant ogcd mits and heals with their magic missile and moving interrupts and debuffs over on tanks and dps that dont fricking use them. If healers are only supoosed to heal, then give them party members that need to be healed. If the party is supposed to manage without a dedicated healer, make the Healer jobs fully-fledged damage suites and skills that match the others.
>remove Summoner/RDM ability to res
>nerf WAR, jesus tapdancing christ, it's past time for that shit, why do they get to be so unga bunga with the heals
There, I just solved the Healer strike in less than 2 seconds. No one has to cross the picket line now. That'll be $27.50 plus tip.
not that it matters, I am going to exclusively play Healer in DT just to spite all those c**ts who acted like insufferable buttholes for the past 10 years, and rake in those commendations like money growing on a tree
ohhhhh but the cleric stance the cleric stance made healers really intelligent to play
no i wasn't a scholar how come you're aaaaaasking
>I did NOT develop my prostate only for everyone to now be able to do my duties!!!? Boyxisters... we must go on strike...!
healers adjust
>just heal me
How come Elden Ring's expansion has so much more content than ours?
how come brown skins can only talk about AAA games
real video game made by a competent team with a vision vs mmoslop on a shoestring budget made by morons pandering to the lowest common denominator
Weird how I only see BLM crying about the changes when RDM changes to Accel also fricks up the job to be worse every way
Only casuals play RDM now and they don't care, all the "hardcore" players either moved on to SMN or BLM.
I really hate how 7.0 is hammering down on RDM being fricking useless, especially with the SMN changes.
>summoner gets a big fricking wank about how they didn't remove its res for the expansion
>dragoon's rework is nowhere to be found, that gets no attention at all
>Phoenix still doesn't rez
>RDM has more rez potency than a phoenix using Summoner
Literally no one will be playing RDM in relevant content. The job is inadequate. Gimped.
It's also the caster that requires the most melee uptime which absolutely goes against the purpose of bringing a caster.
I watched a youtube video that convinced me to try it because supposedly it was an aesthetically cool, highskill job that could actually do really well if you mastered it.
Well, despite later realizing the youtuber in question was actually a bit of a shitter, it did turn out that RDM is a highskill job. Just also turned out that you get to feel like an idiot for mastering it.
RDM is highskill in the sense it has the most movement concerns of the Casters, because they ez-moded SMN in 6.0 and pushed RDM back into the "Frick you if you have to move and it's not melee-combo or Acceleration time". No one would ever bring RDM into TOP.
except that most dedicated movement mechanics are during 2 minutes where everything rdm does is instant, and if its not you just hold your out of burst melee combo for that big mechanic
literally half of your filler is an instant cast as rdm and you hate hate hate spellspeed so you have an 2.5 gcd + forgiving slidecast window on jolt/verfire from dualcasting to do smaller movement. don't forget all the dash/backflip charges you have to spend outside of buff windows to not overcap!
I haven't played since the beginning of Endwalker but I remember warrior being the only tank that can heal himself more than the healer for whatever reason. Why aren't the other tanks designed like this as well?
if you take vipers pvp combos and break them up so each distinct move is its own button, viper actually ends up having the most buttons of any melee. here's everything you would have on your bars contrasted with ninja, the current highest amount of buttons for any melee (and any class period when dawntrail makes several blm buttons the same button that swaps based on your element + removes sharpcast)
I don't really have a point with this I just though it was neat to think about
xivcombo buttons are the future
I mean, sure, but so does SMN if you break it apart
I don't really get what you mean, are you saying if you make all the summon flavored ruins different buttons even though you can only press one of them at any given time based on what mode you're in? that's not really the same as viper having standard melee 123 combos only you aren't allowed to hit the wrong combo ender because it's compiled into branching combos.
also you're still wrong, even if you did put that all on your bar as different buttons its not 34 buttons
If you separate all SMN buttons, you get a lot more than 34 buttons, especially if you separate all the shit condensed into Astral Flow, even if you break Reawaken apart.
But as you said
>I don't really have a point
And there is no point in breaking skills apart to count them.
VPR will be braindead, even more than Reaper, and there is no amount of cope you can throw at your delusion that will make it harder
ok, sure. if you wanna be a dickhead about it and make literally everything its own button, even the different trances and enkindles even though in shadowbringers dreadwrym morphed into firebird and enkindle/egi assaults were one button that did different things depending on what pet you had out
then summoner has 40 buttons, which is still "only 6" over the viper one I posted.
>even if you break Reawaken apart.
rewaken is already broken apart. you have to hit 6 buttons to do it which is definitely a record for this kind of powerup mode unless again you're going to be unreasonable about the dedicated gnb style weave button that you hit between every gcd but twinblade combo having two distinct ogcd weave buttons that you have to hit in a specific order that changes based on what move you do first has to make up for that, surely?
Healers need to adjust
Healing is really kinda shit...
the only times i have fun healing are during savage/ulti prog when you are fixing frickups. Once you know the fight i just end up casting a handfull of crit spreadlo and do my dot and broil constantly.... i miss old SCH when i had several dots and dark flare
See, there IS a way to make healing fun, just look at Team Fortress 2's medic. that's all you fricking need as a base: heal-beams, instant casts, and aoe healbombs or shields
threadly reminder that abyssos introduced harder healing and healers just swapped roles, the person who started this strike is literally a limsamite, and healers are consistently the worst players in the game.
Abyssos really humbled healers and tank mains who PF only. They really needed to be knocked down a couple pegs and I laugh everytime they try to say the "damage was too much" when healers failed to use their toolkits and tanks didn't know how to use mitigation.
it didn't humble tanks though, the dots ticked massively even with mits up, it was the healers job to cover for that and instead they just blamed tank players for not using mitigation. having even 40-50% mitigation still meant you were ticking for 17-20k damage from dots.
>THE DOTS WERE MASSIVE!!!!!
lol, lmao
shit was easy to solo heal on SCH week one but I have a static where people know how to mit
yes the dots were massive week one, it's why abyssos had a healing shortage that even yoshiP acknowledged
>people know how to mit
yes, that's the entire point. the last like 5 savage tiers before abyssos you didn't have t know how to mit, you could just grief your healers and still clear
in abysos if you don't know how to mit week one you just died.
And that's how savage should be but sadly they listen to shit players.
It humbled WAR gays and thats why abyssos design wasnt in anabaseios.
It also revealed how much more important mitigation is than raw regen.
you really think they ran it back because of warriors and not because of the fact that people just gave up healing that tier?
it's kind of SE's fault for conditioning the playerbase to the healer role being for shitters
Healing sucks ass in XIV with the netcode and buff rollout.
There's only two reasons to play actually play healers at a high level, and SE has gone out of their way to squash one, and the other is killed by the reason above.
I ran the 81-87 endwalker dungeons a good dozen times today because i'm a degenerate and wanted to get all the scouting items from each dungeon for automatic viper weapon drops and healers dying to dungeon bosses happened literally half the time
people who leveled a healer to level 80+, even people who didn't really have anything else leveled, they couldn't deal with dungeon bosses.
Why would you run dungeons below 85 when the tome gear lasts you til 85
glam homie, read
Modern MMOs are trash and cater to the lowest common denominator. Team synergy and build variety are a joke in XIV. MMORPGs are dead, go waste your time and money on something else.
>Hates game but plays it anyway
>Refuses to play game he would like
>Begins to quit game and market products such as Aion private servers
>WoW meltdown happens during ShB
>Sees how much attention the new streamers are getting, primarily he-who-shall-not-be-named
>Immediately does a 180 and dives back into XIV, rebranding his stream to be very similar to the above mentioned streamer
>Dials acting up to 200%, focuses more on drama, creates drama when there is none
There are many reasons to dislike WoW and it's players but their invasion of XIV has had so many negative effects it's impossible to fully realize them. No one wants to hear about this person or their acting exploits, zoomers are a lost fricking cause.
Why won't this Black person get the frick out of our threads?
Do they have an internet connection in jail?
Schizo posts will go down once he's arrested. Mark my words.
We're here
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Dear Lionel:
Get the frick out of our threads https://wheresmyfrickingmoney.com/
Yeah, I think the essence of healers shouldn't be tossed aside like this, but I want to hear the redditors scream. They're a bunch of fricking superiority-complex trash that need their licenses for b***hing revoked.
Troon is kind of the sitcom laugh track of Ganker. I'm never laughing at the same time.
>ran aetherfont the other day
>healer died from standing in an aoe
>tank just goes and does next pull without him while healer takes forever to catch up
>hits like 30% hp, heals back to full, legitimately does not need the healer at all
this shit is moronic as frick but i don't know what they expect a 'strike' to do about it
So before the thread dies, how would you fix healing?
more random damage, boss should crit the tanks again, give them maybe 2-3 more damage buttons maybe.
some random damage would be nice
You play another game, XIV healing has always been the way it is and it will never change.
make it even more reactive and spammy so that dps with adhd who want fast queues play tank instead
Need to make fights no longer just bodychecks that wipe you if someone dies, part of the skill when healing is being able to recover it which the current savage set up just doesn't allow for
remove caster rez and I'll agree that body checks can go away, but as the game exists removing body checks doesn't benefit healers, it benefits red mage players
I agree caster rez should go away at this point except for maybe red mage, but body checks on every single mechanic in savage last tier was just so fricking unfun to prog. Save body checks on every mechanic for ultimate
I would start under the encounter belief that healers should need to hard cast heals more often than never
I would then change healer design so the Q Mage element isn't so base and same. Sage applying heals through his Q is a good idea, more classes should have stuff like that.
>WHM Q has a longer cast time but deals more damage
>SCH Q applies a short duration debuff to help mitigate damage the enemy deals, which possibly has interactions with other spells in his kit
>AST Q ??? idk maybe it plays into a buff mechanic somehow
Just some little thing that makes classes actually feel foundationally different from eachother
Good ideas but not happening, play a different game if you want a different style of healing.
Bosses should target dps at random
If the healers don't want to work then I'll gladly take their place.
HEALERS RISE UP
He looks so fricking cool.
https://x.com/FF_XIV_JP/status/1803638909085340003
Midlanders just never look good, should have made a custom model for him
Midlanders are the only good looking race
t. the human equivalent of paint drying
That would be Miqote
Or Au Ra
Or Viera
As generic as you can be
What's your race, bro
The only race that matters of course
Nah he looks great and he looks the same as he always did, which makes it that much better.
I've always love that gear in the pic but it really doesn't go well with anything
I will become Hoe-cage
Didn't know bots could be programmed to make tepid frogposts as a failsafe for command overwrites
I've been playing healers since stormblood and I did all ultimates/savages as a healer. I still have a lot of fun but that's because of the static I raid with. Healers could be changed a bit though.
>There exists a person who has built their identity around running normal MSQ dungeons in FFXIV and shunning all other content
Modern MMO players are the weakest people I've ever witnessed.
nice strawman. Unfortunately, it's not a valid rebuttal as to why DRK has to suffer in dungeons compared to WAR.
But DRK is equally as powerful as WAR in dungeons
An example was even posted.
Meanwhile DRK has been stronger than WAR in the raid scene for two full expansions and probably still is going into DT.
>equally as poweful as WAR in dungeons
why would someone just go on the internet and lie like that
Exceptions don't disprove the rule, homosexual
Exception to what? the frick
>Exceptions don't disprove the rule, homosexual
it's a fricking final fantasy dungeon, 97% of the time they are all quite literally the same
>UHMMMM ACSKHULLY DRK can only solo 114 out of 116 dungeons in the game while WAR can solo 115 out of 116 it's totally not the same
>114
video shows DRK soloing 1 instance
herp derp
Holy shit anon you REALLY do not have a grasp on what is happening around you.
Did you ever stop and think that not being able to beat the content that makes up VERY LITTLE of the game means less than having a pain in the ass of a time through the actual ubiquitous content? Wow, so you have some more difficulty in the fraction of the percent of the endgame content as a WAR. Big fricking woop. I can barely get through dungeons and mobs without constantly being at the edge of my seat because DRKs can't actually do the one job that they're supposed to do: TANK. They are glorified DPS. You can go wall to wall with ease as a WAR. You can solo every dungeon like it was fricking nothing. You can breeze through 95% of FFXIV's content. That means you have made it in the shade for the majority of the time
>b-but TOP
cry me a fricking river b***h, you sound worse than the healers. go DPS if you want do do more damage.
armchair psychologists are homosexuals. have a nice day
You know what XIV needs?
Newest characters have no breasts in xiv. Move on, this is a game for homosexuals and trannies
>a streamer beat the next expansion’s first dungeon without a healer
Is this really that shocking? I'm pretty sure by this point pretty much everyone has had at least one dungeon experience where everyone except the tank died on a boss fight and the tank proceeded to solo the boss.
Hell, I've personally ran expert roulette with friends where we would go as four WARs and just stomp the place.
when did drk players become hw war players
WARs are still b***hing about being too weak to beat the 1% of the most difficult content that barely anyone plays. So, no that doesn't work here, homosexual. I am convinced WARs won't be satisfied until they can res like RDMs, heal like White Mages, DPS like SAMs/NINs, and tank like PLDs in Frontline.
you have paranoid schizophrenia lmao
Slogging through CC kind of sucks tbqh