even without that shit smeared on the screen. they made the colour composition of the area worse.
much darker trees, less visible moss on the rocks, the dirt is too light ruining contrast of the grass and the colour of the water.
brown dirt most obviously worked much better. I don't know what they were thinking.
they didn't remove it. it's now a washed out lime green that is barely different from the colour of the rocks. The rocks are really washed out, crappy colours too. looks disgusting like breath of the wild.
apparently they made this as practice for an upcoming platformer
https://x.com/PlaytonicGames/status/1798767990441406848
https://x.com/PlaytonicGames/status/1798789137371455646
Did who ever made this really need to ruin everything with that horrid shot of the lighting. The textures and models look much better. Frick me this is almost as bad as the 00's PISS filtered everything had
Why would I apologize? >Company fixes a game 7 years post launch
All this does is justify all the complaints that have now been addressed.
The game is an apology, and yes, it is worth getting now.
But why would I apologize for my criticism when I was right?
New graphics, a map, and some some sort of additional in-game currency to use in the arcade area. Apparently they've changed and added to the challenges, so maybe there's more stuff to do in the worlds. I think it's a little early to say it's good now, when we haven't really seen any of the changes besides the questionable graphics update.
This. Mario Odyssey is a better Banjo Kazooie game than either of the Banjo Kazooie games, honestly. And I say that as someone who adores both Banjo Kazooie games. Yooka-Laylee misunderstood what made BK special.
On the other hand, the 2D Yooka game was fricking great.
Dude it’s the best 3D Mario by a not-even-close margin and the Banjo DNA is all over it. Buddy-duo dynamic, transformations that give you new powers, exploration-driven collection without kicking you out, tons of minigames and subsections, and while it doesn’t have a true “quiz minigame” it captures the magic somewhat with Hint Art (it’s like if Grunty’s Furnace Fun was all “see the picture on my screen”, level fact trivia, and the timer challenges; I admit I miss the audio puzzles, but no Grunty personal life questions compensates for it)
Plus the usual 3D Mario charm of absolutely wacky ass movement tech and a postgame that’s as big as the main game.
This. Mario Odyssey is a better Banjo Kazooie game than either of the Banjo Kazooie games, honestly. And I say that as someone who adores both Banjo Kazooie games. Yooka-Laylee misunderstood what made BK special.
On the other hand, the 2D Yooka game was fricking great.
Mario Odessey worked because it solved the "100%-ing a Collectathon game can sometimes be unfun" problem by making the game outright tell you that you SHOULDN'T 100% the game and just get what you need. Of the 836 unique moons you only need 500 to get the games equivalence of a true ending. Going past that is purely your own violition.
BotW does the same thing with Korok seeds, with that game literally shitting on you if you are deranged enough to get all 900 of them.
I got all the Odyssey moons and had a goddamn blast doing it, the only time it ever came CLOSE to feeling like a “waste of time” was volleyball and jump rope just because of the tendency to choke at like the 87th iteration and having to start over.
I loved everything about Odyssey, I 100%ed every level on Switch and max ranked Balloon World (also fricking fantastic), then when emulation got to a point where it was good on PC, I 100%ed it all over again, then installed the Superstar Mode mod and am going for 100% again.
It’s too fricking good if you are a Banjo Kazooie fan. It takes everything great about Banjo and just ratchets it up past 11. God damn do I love Mario Odyssey.
NTA, but probably the sheer variety of things. Banjo has a lot of different moments where you control different characters, get transformations, use power-ups you unlock to explore new areas and find new challenges. Tooie straight up goes Goldeneye but with shooting eggs at things, even. Odyssey's Cappy takeover power and massive smorgasbord of various challenges and scenarios may as well be the successor to that concept more than anything Mario,
Dude it’s the best 3D Mario by a not-even-close margin and the Banjo DNA is all over it. Buddy-duo dynamic, transformations that give you new powers, exploration-driven collection without kicking you out, tons of minigames and subsections, and while it doesn’t have a true “quiz minigame” it captures the magic somewhat with Hint Art (it’s like if Grunty’s Furnace Fun was all “see the picture on my screen”, level fact trivia, and the timer challenges; I admit I miss the audio puzzles, but no Grunty personal life questions compensates for it)
Plus the usual 3D Mario charm of absolutely wacky ass movement tech and a postgame that’s as big as the main game.
Just to piggyback on these anons, Odyssey is phenomenal in terms of variety of gameplay, level design, and challenge where unless you're going for 100% there probably won't be a point where you get weary of it. It's creative and fun, and while the mechanics still aren't as clean and satisfying as 64, it's a out as close to any 3d mario
>buddy duo character that chats with you and enhances your moveset (admittedly, without the snark of Kazooie; BK’s definitely got it all over Odyssey in the humor department) >collection doesn’t kick you out, it’s open ended exploration where you amass collectibles and “plug them in” to get to the next level >capture mechanic is like mumbo transforms on steroids, become a new creature with new abilities >level environments are wildly varied with super unique artstyles and aesthetics and npcs to talk to >just a zillion collectibles. There’s shit to collect everywhere >late game challenges your game knowledge with trivia puzzles in the form of pictures that act as hints to find secret moons >minigames everywhere, if you liked it in Tooie >in addition to normal sequence, levels have special warps to secret parts of other levels to find hidden collectibles
The biggest “failures” of BK emulation are the weaker sense of humor (it has more moments than your usual Mario game but it’s tame by Rare standards) and the lack of a proper overworld.
Oh, and of course, Banjo uses the metroidvania logic of “unlocking moves”, Odyssey does not, you get the full schmoovement kit in level one. It does have the “go back later” effect nested away behind things like outfit doors, where you unlock an outfit in one kingdom to solve a puzzle that opens a door in a prior kingdom; but it isn’t quite the same charm as “OH SHIT I CAN BREAK THESE OPEN NOW? I have to go back 5 worlds”
From large maps to the stars/moons now being a very common collectable that you find all over just exploring.
Mario Odessey feels more like a Banjo game than any Mario game.
Like you could make a mod replacing the Mario cast to Banjo and his crew and this would've been a perfectly acceptable Banjo-Threeie.
Cappy’s dialogue would need to be rewritten to spend more time insulting NPCs with jokes about their breath and weight. For frick’s sake the game uses “number of hats worn simultaneously” as a diegetic health bar in 5 different boss fights, no way Kazooie doesn’t comment on that
>literally slapped on bloom and a really shitty fur texture on Laylee >instead of fixing the way collectibles were distributed across the worlds, they're adding...............maps
>tongue animation is even worse
are they for fricking real
I don't have pictures but some ugly troon an the dev team bragged about banning lot's of "angry anime avatars" when the jontron was was kicked from the game. Ironically he had pictures of him in D.Va cosplay and he looked just about what you would expect a troon in D.Va cosplay whould look like
so...is this like... a free update? or just a new game? it looks like on steam theyre listing it as a brand new ass game. That is insanely greedy and sad if so.
They should just take their experience from yooka and make something new.
Are the levels still way too fricking big?
The problem is that they copied Banjo Tooie instead of Banjo Kazooie. Tooie's levels were also way too fricking big.
>The problem is that they copied Banjo Tooie instead of Banjo Kazooie >less bosses >less worlds >less minigame variety >worlds aren't interconnected >less landmarks in each world >even more spread out collectibles >three times the quizzes
I fricking wish that's what they did.
This is actually a genuis business plan.
Now terrible Youtube video essayists will re-buy the game and make 6 hour long videos called "Why Youka Laylee isn't as bad as we thought it was"
.
the bottom picture gave me eye cancer.
this is soulless trash
The original style also looked like soulless trash.
>americans think the new visuals look bad because they've never stepped out of their burger dystopia to know what nature looks like
>sunrays
>in an open field
There LITERALLY aren't any trees to filter the light like that. It's a giant fricking open hole.
Uhh the light could be coming from clouds, chud
euro here. if i'd want to see realism, i'd go outside.
This is a video game and it doesn't even have photorealistic artstyle
idk about you but when I go outside I can actually see more than a few feet in front of my face
into the trash it goes
Add MORE filters
n.N..N.li>.In >>.iknt.NTNLKTITNEOX...NINTEN...NENDO.. NINTENDOOOOOOOOOOO BNINNNTENDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
even without that shit smeared on the screen. they made the colour composition of the area worse.
much darker trees, less visible moss on the rocks, the dirt is too light ruining contrast of the grass and the colour of the water.
brown dirt most obviously worked much better. I don't know what they were thinking.
They removed the moss from the rocks for some reason.
they didn't remove it. it's now a washed out lime green that is barely different from the colour of the rocks. The rocks are really washed out, crappy colours too. looks disgusting like breath of the wild.
Yeah, I'm looking closer now. Why? lol
I liked the grass and the bushes, though.
>god rays
>knocked over a barrel
Seven years? For this?
apparently they made this as practice for an upcoming platformer
https://x.com/PlaytonicGames/status/1798767990441406848
https://x.com/PlaytonicGames/status/1798789137371455646
They already have the practice. They took $2 million and made Yooka-Laylee
Wow I hate it.
>DESATURATE THE COLORS
>MORE BLOOM
>MORE BLOOOOOOM
ahhh, perfect!
I hate lazily remade games.
Did who ever made this really need to ruin everything with that horrid shot of the lighting. The textures and models look much better. Frick me this is almost as bad as the 00's PISS filtered everything had
We can go brighter
both are shit and look like asset flips
hat in time pedos btfo'd
worse than licensed PS2 platformers
Wouldn't it make more sense to call it Replay-lee, not Re-Playlee?
No, brainlet.
Why the frick not, replay is one word
Playlee is just Laylee with one extra letter. Why would they part it at -lee? It makes no sense.
>female mc
So long
Why would I apologize?
>Company fixes a game 7 years post launch
All this does is justify all the complaints that have now been addressed.
The game is an apology, and yes, it is worth getting now.
But why would I apologize for my criticism when I was right?
What are they doing to fix it?
New graphics, a map, and some some sort of additional in-game currency to use in the arcade area. Apparently they've changed and added to the challenges, so maybe there's more stuff to do in the worlds. I think it's a little early to say it's good now, when we haven't really seen any of the changes besides the questionable graphics update.
Yooka (the lizard) is male.
I feel like the big problem with this game is that Mario Odyssey was basically a Banjo-Kazooie game and it made Yooka-Laylee feel even more amateur.
This. Mario Odyssey is a better Banjo Kazooie game than either of the Banjo Kazooie games, honestly. And I say that as someone who adores both Banjo Kazooie games. Yooka-Laylee misunderstood what made BK special.
On the other hand, the 2D Yooka game was fricking great.
Guess I need to finally play Odyssey
Dude it’s the best 3D Mario by a not-even-close margin and the Banjo DNA is all over it. Buddy-duo dynamic, transformations that give you new powers, exploration-driven collection without kicking you out, tons of minigames and subsections, and while it doesn’t have a true “quiz minigame” it captures the magic somewhat with Hint Art (it’s like if Grunty’s Furnace Fun was all “see the picture on my screen”, level fact trivia, and the timer challenges; I admit I miss the audio puzzles, but no Grunty personal life questions compensates for it)
Plus the usual 3D Mario charm of absolutely wacky ass movement tech and a postgame that’s as big as the main game.
Mario Odessey worked because it solved the "100%-ing a Collectathon game can sometimes be unfun" problem by making the game outright tell you that you SHOULDN'T 100% the game and just get what you need. Of the 836 unique moons you only need 500 to get the games equivalence of a true ending. Going past that is purely your own violition.
BotW does the same thing with Korok seeds, with that game literally shitting on you if you are deranged enough to get all 900 of them.
I got all the Odyssey moons and had a goddamn blast doing it, the only time it ever came CLOSE to feeling like a “waste of time” was volleyball and jump rope just because of the tendency to choke at like the 87th iteration and having to start over.
I loved everything about Odyssey, I 100%ed every level on Switch and max ranked Balloon World (also fricking fantastic), then when emulation got to a point where it was good on PC, I 100%ed it all over again, then installed the Superstar Mode mod and am going for 100% again.
It’s too fricking good if you are a Banjo Kazooie fan. It takes everything great about Banjo and just ratchets it up past 11. God damn do I love Mario Odyssey.
What elements does it take from Banjo to make it feel like a Banjo game? (haven't played Odyssey)
NTA, but probably the sheer variety of things. Banjo has a lot of different moments where you control different characters, get transformations, use power-ups you unlock to explore new areas and find new challenges. Tooie straight up goes Goldeneye but with shooting eggs at things, even. Odyssey's Cappy takeover power and massive smorgasbord of various challenges and scenarios may as well be the successor to that concept more than anything Mario,
Just to piggyback on these anons, Odyssey is phenomenal in terms of variety of gameplay, level design, and challenge where unless you're going for 100% there probably won't be a point where you get weary of it. It's creative and fun, and while the mechanics still aren't as clean and satisfying as 64, it's a out as close to any 3d mario
>buddy duo character that chats with you and enhances your moveset (admittedly, without the snark of Kazooie; BK’s definitely got it all over Odyssey in the humor department)
>collection doesn’t kick you out, it’s open ended exploration where you amass collectibles and “plug them in” to get to the next level
>capture mechanic is like mumbo transforms on steroids, become a new creature with new abilities
>level environments are wildly varied with super unique artstyles and aesthetics and npcs to talk to
>just a zillion collectibles. There’s shit to collect everywhere
>late game challenges your game knowledge with trivia puzzles in the form of pictures that act as hints to find secret moons
>minigames everywhere, if you liked it in Tooie
>in addition to normal sequence, levels have special warps to secret parts of other levels to find hidden collectibles
The biggest “failures” of BK emulation are the weaker sense of humor (it has more moments than your usual Mario game but it’s tame by Rare standards) and the lack of a proper overworld.
Oh, and of course, Banjo uses the metroidvania logic of “unlocking moves”, Odyssey does not, you get the full schmoovement kit in level one. It does have the “go back later” effect nested away behind things like outfit doors, where you unlock an outfit in one kingdom to solve a puzzle that opens a door in a prior kingdom; but it isn’t quite the same charm as “OH SHIT I CAN BREAK THESE OPEN NOW? I have to go back 5 worlds”
From large maps to the stars/moons now being a very common collectable that you find all over just exploring.
Mario Odessey feels more like a Banjo game than any Mario game.
Like you could make a mod replacing the Mario cast to Banjo and his crew and this would've been a perfectly acceptable Banjo-Threeie.
Cappy’s dialogue would need to be rewritten to spend more time insulting NPCs with jokes about their breath and weight. For frick’s sake the game uses “number of hats worn simultaneously” as a diegetic health bar in 5 different boss fights, no way Kazooie doesn’t comment on that
Just frick my saturation/bloom/contrast/colors up
The ugly fog the ugly fog nu-devs hit you with the ugly fog
I miss the days of visual clarity. Frick graphicsgays
>literally slapped on bloom and a really shitty fur texture on Laylee
>instead of fixing the way collectibles were distributed across the worlds, they're adding...............maps
>tongue animation is even worse
are they for fricking real
>Game is good now
So jontron is back oooorrr....?
Why are modern devs like this?
UGH TOO MUCH CONTRAST DE SATURATE THAT SHIT
muh realism
Oh hey we're in the late 00s grey/brown visuals era again
Did they brought back jontron and fired that nasty troon in D.Va cosplay?
>that nasty troon in D.Va cosplay?
?
I don't have pictures but some ugly troon an the dev team bragged about banning lot's of "angry anime avatars" when the jontron was was kicked from the game. Ironically he had pictures of him in D.Va cosplay and he looked just about what you would expect a troon in D.Va cosplay whould look like
yeah that guy hasn't worked at playtonic for a long time
i've never tried the game but i checked out some of its track because i heard david wise worked on it
definitely reminds me of dkc
did they even fix the dogshit level design or is this just a graphics pass with a map added?
They should include the toy box demo in the game
so...is this like... a free update? or just a new game? it looks like on steam theyre listing it as a brand new ass game. That is insanely greedy and sad if so.
They should just take their experience from yooka and make something new.
Playtonic was literally a scamming studio from the beginning.
It's pretty common for remasters to get separate store pages, regardless of if it'll be free for backers/owners of YL.
>still the same garbage character """""""""""design""""""""""
fixed what lol
You're telling me this couldn't have just been a patch?
Nope. pay up b***h
Are the levels still way too fricking big?
The problem is that they copied Banjo Tooie instead of Banjo Kazooie. Tooie's levels were also way too fricking big.
>The problem is that they copied Banjo Tooie instead of Banjo Kazooie
>less bosses
>less worlds
>less minigame variety
>worlds aren't interconnected
>less landmarks in each world
>even more spread out collectibles
>three times the quizzes
I fricking wish that's what they did.
Not to mention Tooie looked better than this game ever did.
This is actually a genuis business plan.
Now terrible Youtube video essayists will re-buy the game and make 6 hour long videos called "Why Youka Laylee isn't as bad as we thought it was"
>Rapelay-lee
Umm???
anyone else jerk it to that pic of yooka and laylee tied up in a box being forced to frick each other
Jon Troonies on suicide watch
I Want this shit to be good so badly, please dont frick it up rare boomers
Updating the graphics won't stop the game being a 5/10 collectathon that fails to capture what made the Banjo games good.
>a shitty game made even shittier by lathering it in post processing effects
name a single kickstarter game that wasn't a scam
Shovel Knight.