Guns are only cool in video games. The reason being we get to play with cool and useful shotguns, SMGs, pistols, revolvers, etc. In real life everything has been replaced with automatic rifles. Warfare is soulless now.
Guns are only cool in video games.
>shotguns, SMGs, pistols, revolvers
Anon, you can own these in real life still
warfare was dominated by Spear aka the most soulless weapon of all time so no, it was always soulless
Hard doubt
Spears were just as incapable of piercing armor as blades or arrows
They had an advantage when in a formation but for mercenaries and fighters not part of the regular army a sword or a mace was much more versatile than a spear
Read a history book sometime. Literally any of them.
Yes? Most of them depict warriors using swords
There is way more extensive literature on swords, swordfighting, swordsmithing and all sorts of sword related topics than spears and spearfighting
damn you are so fricking moronic it hurts. Someone with a spear wins against a swordsman 100% of the time
Underage or European thread
He doesn't know about he Roman cohorts LOL
swords are the weapons of nobility and heroes only
Spears are peasant/normal gay weapons and that's why you rarely see them in heroic or mythological tales despite the fact that in actual warfare they were the go to
Very few used spears. Do you mean Pikes?
At least in the later middle ages even peasant soldiers had a breast plate to glance pikes off into the arms and legs.
Here's a film that shows a real nice look at what pike combat was like
I mean polearms in general
So when you read that he wrote "spears dominated warfare" what you thought of was the 1600s? How dumb are you?
Of all conflicts total, pike squares lasted a long god damn time compared to any other weapon or formation, yes.
Do you have any fricking idea how expensive plate armor was? It would be like fielding a modern army entirely of tanks. You're a moron historylet
/k/ incels need to stop glorifying war.
>nooo stop you can't glorify war even if its the only reason society and civilization exists as it does today nooo
idiots like you need to open a history book and visit a museum before telling the chans you are moronic
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
There always will be people that want to harm you or take your things by force.
Why are there so many guns anyway?
Humans and animals and stuff are pretty fragile. How many different ways do you need to be able to shoot a piece of metal out of a bigger piece of metal?
if you have to ask, then there's no point in explaining it to you
You used to need SMGs for close quarters in buildings for example, but now they just figured "make the assault rifle a little smaller". So a game like Ready or Not features like 15 rifles and 3 outdated SMGs that no one uses anymore.
>You used to need SMGs for close quarters in buildings for example
This was never really the case, carbines and sbr's have existed in some form for over 500 years, the main reason for the proliferation of smg's following ww1 was the availability, weight and raw material cost for ammo, you can make 2-3 pistol cartridges for every 1 full length rifle cartridge and can carry way more ammo on your body for the same amount of weight
The advent of intermediate cartridges made SMG's obsolete overnight so arms companies like HK started cooking up myths about overpenetration to try and dump their stock that was unsellable to militaries onto police departments and special units instead to get some sort of ROI
distance
urban warfare
crowd control
every single weapon has its own niche. you would have thought that handguns would have become obsoleted by now, but they still have their uses.
same reason there's so many knives, swords, axes, ect.
Different tools for different jobs
Because there's more than one manufacturer and they're competing with each other for customers and they have to keep making improvements to get ahead so you get a lot of weapons that fill the same role as each other.
Same reason why there's 10000 different brands of potato chip. Everyone wants to make the next big thing.
Unfortunately, guns are a solved meta. The best firearms ever built was designed in 1949, and everything else has just been iterations on the base.
Because there's a gorillion companies making their own versions, trying to trick governments into granting them juicy defense contracts
Different story for bullets, plenty of different uses and bigger is not always better
SMGs use extremely common handgun rounds allowing you to use the same ammo in your primary and secondary weapon. They're lightweight and compact for short range, hence the popularity among special ops teams.
You wouldn't bring a great sword indoors, and you wouldn't bring an anti materiel rifle indoors either.
Warfare? Yeah.
Fortunately there's plenty more occasions to draw a gun, and the choice of gun is yours.
>Guns are only cool in video games
That's where you're wrong homosexual
>warfare is soulless now
lol
lmao even
>muh rifles are so kewl
snooze.they're boring and they're all the same. There was a time when soldiers brought fricking flamethrowers to war, do you realize that?
Google what happened to the dudes carrying them hahahahahahahahahha
Fun fact, flamethrower fuel tanks never exploded.
You're moronic if you think gears of war esque weakpoints on their backs is what killed over half of the men who walked slowly towards their enemy pouring fuel on them
Nerd moron
>who walked slowly towards their enemy pouring fuel on them
Anon, I...
The fuel lasted for just few seconds. It was meant for destroying bunkers and fortifications.
then how come many war veterans keep telling stories about some unlucky son of a b***h going up in flames?
Because they don't remember the countless stories of private Jimmy getting shot
Watching a comrade burn to death seems like it would get burned into your mind
Yeah they just get fricking cancer, I'd rather go up in flames
It's about carbon monoxide.
There was also a time where you just picked up a good stone to sling at your enemies during war but you don't see me complaining,
Yes, Bolt Action weapons should be more powerful than a semi automatic ones
Yes, Revolvers should be more powerful than even a sniper rifle
Yes, a shotgun should be the most useful weapon up close
Yes, SMGs should outperform every AR in close quarters
Generals, politicians, gun manufacturers, make warfare more like video games!
Also nerf artillery it's literally no fun allowed easy mode, also bring back biplanes, jets are op.
Artillery had clear counters during
but nowadays they're just too imba. Everyone just uses it before they even moved.
>Artillery had clear counters
It really didn't.
Positioning and maneuvering your artillery was very important, anon. Not to mention the terrain they were placed in even dictated what kind of shot you were using and the position of the enemy advance. It was all written in the war manuals.
You can use even the best weapon of war badly, yeah. But arty got on the roll in Napoleonic wars and haven't stopped since.
True but the best weapons are often highlighted by the tasks of which they are given.
They are still king when it comes to accuracy and higher muzzle velocities, which is why modern day marksmen still use bolt actions
Revolvers can shoot big calibers that autoloaders cant handle
Buckshot is devastating up close
SMGs have shorter barrels, essential for up close combat
And knives should be one hit kill!
>Yes, SMGs should outperform every AR in close quarters
Like in a crawl space or a fricking tiny cave? Yeah baby. ARs outperform them in pretty much every way.
he's not talking about realism, he's talking about weapons' roles in video games
We still get new iterations of what you listed, anon. Popular old variations of them haven't entirely disappeared either. Rifles have always been the primary arm of any military just as polearms were for medieval times, but they aren't that elusive do-it-all arm every military has been dying to create just yet.
Since Napoleonic wars artillery rules the war and personal arms aren't that important.
dum
>warfare is soulless now
No way, you mean to tell me dying for some rich frick in a backwater shithole had SOVL? I am shocked.
>some rich frick in a backwater shithole
Cool it with the anti-semetic remarks
Lets see Paul Allen's war tactics
>In real life everything has been replaced with automatic rifles
*drones
>they hear it coming
neat
Sup US Army recruiter. How's the backlog? Ya hit those quotas yet? Or are college kids telling you to frick off and post your war crimes?
why are americans so obsessed with guns?
They're really fun. Something about the feel of recoil and the smell is very satisfying.
Delusional people who think their AR-15 and pump shotgun will help them fight a hypothetical tyrannical government with drones and jet aircraft
It worked in Afghanistan.
It didn't though. The mutts left after 20 years or so for a myriad of reasons, none of which were the taliban.
>None of which
come now. Would have never left if there was no resistance, moreso the government would have stood. Don't get me wrong I'm sure as frick going to die but eh.
Being that we are currently occupied, I hear ya. Still it's also occupied by more firearms than people in general. There'd be some places I think would just be red zones forever.
Its a lot easier to occupy your own country than overseas
Don't make me tap the sign again
>hurr durr me so smart
Thats a shitpost thread, same guy every day would post the exact same thing, its not meant to be taken seriously. Its like the newbies getting mad at the designated leafpost on pol humor threads
Jesus but yes that jap is absolutely right. The argument of "le tanks and bombers" comes from the argument of who has the bigger guns rather than should the populace be armed
>Insurgencies are still kicking
Cool so we'll be alive but living in bombed out shitholes is that the victory?
It's neither a victory nor a defeat but a state wishing to bomb its citizens and cull them is a state not worth preserving.
Whatever % of the population owning guns in the US has done wonders for the government or corporation giving a frick about what the populace wants pffthahahah
>shoots up a walmart in some noname town
Bravo gun owners, really fighting the power right there, those dead octogenarians will be a devastating blow to the freemasons
They're just alot of fun
>/k/ invading Ganker
You are worse than /misc/ and Ganker
Pretty sure I'm the opposite of /k/ since I prefer the idea of weapons more than real life weapons, like this
Even rifles are practically useless compared to guided munitions. Literally nothing more soulless than long range guided missiles.
>Guns are only cool in video games.
I have a large collection of firearms IRL spanning 400 years. Guns are cool outside of video games. Guns do not exist IN video games. Guns in video games are not Guns they are just animations as parts of video games and have nothing to do with reality any more than a horse in a video game has anything to do with horses. If you only know about guns from video games then you know nothing about guns
sci fi / alien guns >
game?? im moronic
The only type of warfare with soul was during the Napoleonic era where miltiary fashion was at its peak. Even the weapons used had balanced cooldowns. Terrain and weather conditions was also more important.
What's automatic in the military besides machineguns? last time I check it's semi-auto or 3 round burst.
Pistols and SMGs are still widely used in poorer parts of the world.
Revolvers and shit are 200 years deprecated dogshit only made popular by hollywood.
>cool and useful shotguns
please tell me where
Battlefield, they're so good in 4 shitty admins would just outright ban them on servers and you'd be automatically killed as soon as you spawn until you switch off.
almost any tactical/realistic shooter with them
I was thinking about buying a 92FS, is the 92x better?
If you want to play with cool guns, take them to a range.
Warfare isn't the only way to enjoy a quality weapon.
Daily reminder guns are for limp dick cowards who need a safety blanket and daydream about shooting home invader minorities and being the hero in a local 1 paragraph newspaper article.
You’ll never overthrow the government.
I'm just scared of living alone
It's okay to dream anon. My dream just also lets me have fun on the range and potentially shoot a bad man.
Spoken like a true Redcoat sympathizer.
People like you deserve a new .69 caliber orifice.
Being a gun owner with a SPH fetish must be heaven
>Guns are only cool in video games.
Wrong and I got an Automag recently because I live Eastwood
I got lucky too because they just remade the weapon recently to not be a complete piece of shit
Like*
OP kind of has a point. This is what Sig Sauer made to replace the M16/M4/what have you for the US Army. It made me think "Did rifle design really peak with the AR-15?"
Nah, probably not. It's just easier to get a defence contract for US mil if the rifle looks a bit like AR. And if you have rifle with flat top receiver with rails, mlok or similiar all over plus magpul stock "it looks like an AR" so there's that.
When are we getting laser guns? Bullets r gay
What's the point of owning a gun if you are not gonna shoot people with it?
To have
But why?
Hello, federal agent, how's the wife?