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It is a small miracle that Todd hasn't ruined the Elders Scrolls lore yet.
Even if he hasn't completely ruined it, he definetly made it a lot lamer than it could have been starting nearly 2 decades ago
HAHAHAHAHAAH, wait, are you serious? He and Emil already fricking destroyed the lore of the Nords, the Imperials among other things.
souls games dont have good lore. they just make basic shit seem esoteric by hiding it in item descriptions or some shit.
elder scrolls lore has been ruined like three times over at least
t. filtered by Myrmidon
There is an ex dev writing fanfics on reddit thay has been taking care of that.
I mean Cyrodiil was retconned and Nords in Skyrim are just tall Imperials now
The attempted Cyrodil retcon from Morrowind got ignored.
Oblivion, Skyrim, ESO and Michael Kirkbride himself have each ruined the lore in their own ways. It ain't easy being a TES loregay. The question is do you outright dismiss everything post-Morrowind as non-canon, or do you dumpster dive into the later stuff, hoping to salvage a tiny, additional morsel of something good.
The easier route is to treat Morrowind as semi canon. Treat the Cyrods description of Cyrodil as deliberate misinformation. The Imperials had a low opinion of the backwards Dunmer and probably didn't want them to move there.
Yeah if you ignore the dozen or so reasons why that cope makes no sense
Old games are less relevant. Easier to dismiss them than the newer games. Do you think anybody will rage if they straight up ignore Arena? Nobody alive has played Arena so nobody cares about it.
The most painless option is to discount earlier games as having a less clear understanding.
Arena, Daggerfall, Battlespire, Redguard, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, their expansions, and the dev's unofficial writings are all canon.
Online and the mobile games are not.
Simple.
if its sucks its non-canon if its cool its canon
simple as
>yet
Just wait until TES6: Hammerfell. They will africanize the frick out of it. Hoonding will become Yakub Luther Kang Jr
They'll go back to the Redguard-Morrowind-Oblivion era Redguards? Sounds based
literal moron opinion
redguards are just Black folk doing arabian nights
that's their entire schtick
I don't know why everyone on this site thinks bethesda is suddenly going to do an about face and turn them into wakandans. They live in a huge desert ffs, not the serengeti
>thinking they're just gonna let a major figure in redguard mythos be named HoodNig
Lmao, they will change it for goodgoy points
It's especially ironic because in reality Bethesda has actively been making the Redguards more arabic and less black for the past 14 years, they were mostly just black 17th century pirates whose buildings had middle-eastern domes in Morrowind and Oblivion, you didn't have turban-wearing Redguards named Samir Al-Satakalawahi until Skyrim and ESO, and they seem to want to stick to that portrayal judging by the recent Fallout Shelter spin-off
>redguards are just Black folk doing arabian nights
>that's their entire schtick
No it isn't, lorelet. That has only been their shtick in Skyrim. Redguards were intended as an African Black power fantasy and their culture was a mix of a bunch of real-world influences including West African, Caribbean, Anglo and Japanese cultures.
In fact the only single aspect of Arab-inspired Redguard culture prior to Skyrim was their architecture and nothing else.
It would unironically be a good thing if Bethesda dials back that hokey Aladdin shit and goes back to the less sanitized, Afro-centric cultural hodgepodge version of Redguards, but alas it seems like it's all turbans and flying carpets from here on out.
>That has only been their shtick in Skyrim.
Yeah. that's fair, that is what I meant, but I clearly phrased it poorly.
TES didn't exactly start off as a particularly rich or interesting setting, and it's been regressing towards highly-conspicuous stereotypes since skyrim and now with all the mobilehomosexualry and the dogshit mmo. And arabian nights fits that highly-conspicuous mold to a T.
>Japanese cultures.
everyone has a little bit of japanese in them because TES was written by cultureless american asocial morons, and that demographic of people tends to align heavily with demographics who think samurai are frikkin ebic woosh swoosh imma cut you with muh ninja sword
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T TAKE INFLUENCES FROM JAPAN THAT'S TOTALLY TOXIC WEEBSHIT EW GROSS EWWWW
Shut the frick up you absolute sperg
there's a difference between liking japan generally (which is based) and being the infantile stereotype guy who specifically only likes samurai and ninja because they show up a lot as super tough bad guys in american media.
primitive japan was the most based japan and its never used instead we get websit omg suugoooi goasaineeee shumimazeeeeee katanaaaa samurai ninja karate
its so homosexual and cringe
>you have a cool history and culture
>but have some of the most cringe hairstyles
DO YOU TAKE IT?
Egypt was kinda based with the slavery of nigs so yes
What do you think early man was thinking when they saw the hair on their head? And if fashion is aesthetic expression of practical design what practicality would many hairstyles represent?
they will think "civilization" & think its cool because they are clearly more successful, have more wealth and more slaves than they ever could. So yeah. The homosexual looking people were seen as royalty back in the day by the savage moron or as something they didnt want to frick with due to fear.
>everyone has a little bit of japanese in them
Lovecraft doesn't mention Japan beta male country even once and Conan doesnt either that happened later in Marvel Comic capeshit slop Conan, not literature Conan.
no one's talking about conan, schizo-kun.
We mentioned it like 3 times in the thread
>it's been regressing towards highly-conspicuous stereotypes since skyrim
It's gonna become worse now that the normalgays who believe in those nonsensical "le real life inspirations behind TES races!" posts are actually getting jobs at Bethesda and Zenimax. I'm pretty sure I saw some art from the shitty card game featuring an Orc wearing those stereotypical mongolian fur hats, even though they had zero fricking mongol elements whatsoever in previous games (how the frick did normalgays even begin to make that association in the first place?)
>redguards are just Black folk doing arabian nights
If Black folk only knew that Islam enslaved them and tortured way harder & continues to enslave them and torture them if they dont convert they would ape out or rather not, because islamists straight up kill them they dont put up with the ape outs like whtiey that has become soft.
>she hasn't played ESO
Will learning the lore ruin my enjoyment of playing Morrowind?
No, it enhances it.
You definitely shouldn't read up on lore before playing MW for the first time
Big part of its appeal was being in this alien settting and learning the lore yourself by reading all the books, letters and shit during quests (especially temple quests and main quest)
Agreed, there so many books that enhanced the lore and others feels like how will be if fantasy characters trying to shitpost over current topics in mw
Also playing the game and learning it organically will let you come to your own organically wrong conclusions instead of the moronic fandom conclusions
How about you learn it by playing the fricking game
No plus ur gay
Every once in a while I see some shit tacked on lore from ESO and get a little more mad
There's nothing with ESO lore though.
Indeed, there's nothing worthwhile
>read UESP articles
>every once in a while read a part that sticks out for being unusually moronic
>check citation
>it's from ESO, every single time, without fail
why does it keep happening?
why would they just indiscriminately add lore from a shitty MMO and ruin their articles on purpose? i don't get it.
Because citations exist, so the reader can choose to accept or deny that blurb based on their opinion of it.
Because ~~*journalists*~~ are lazy, stupid, and very likely actively hate what they're reporting on. Seriously, have you been living under a rock for the last decade?
>i don't get it.
Same reason why a TV show has thrown a wrench into the mix despite most of the changes not making a lick of sense when scrutinized further. Money. The steady homogenization to make it more palatable for the masses comes part and parcel when chasing the almighty currency. Only a nerd gives two shits about some esoteric scribblings that pull from various real world inspirations.
Wrong pic, sis
TES is ruined by ESO's DnD troony writters
ESO's status as a prequel game makes it almost entirely irrelevant in canon. It will conclude with some elder scrolls shenanigans that will make everything that happened in it meaningless (and possibly erase it alltogether)
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gahjuli Nerevar.
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Have you achieved Chim yet anons?
there was a thread posted with the same OP pic, can't remember about what. one reply was >gif with a funny/scary gif attached of a guy hiding behind his pc and the jumping out with huge teeth. anybody has it?
thanks anon, I was tryig to coom to the mommy dwarf by jerking it for 3 seconds inbetween all the scary stuff but this webm will make things much easier.
Stop being cum brained.
>ESL moronation
I genuinely don't understand how ESLs spend hours drawing, colouring etc something and don't even do a cursory grammar check on the shit they write on the image. They don't have fricking brains.
>t. Muttmerican who can't visualize an apple
good morning sir
Is 22pm here in Europe, muttmerican.
>22pm
>he doesn't exclusively use the Seran clock to count down the days
Ngmi
visualize a grammar textbook homie
why are the mom dwemer's breasts so big and fat and heavy
No
But why can't japs keep a consistent setting with worldbuilding historic events?
Hermaeus Mora is peak.
>patterned in the shape of a scroll
mega kino.
A consistent setting...
Yeah about that...
Neither is Conan's Hyboria tbh settings with more than 1 writer don't end up consistent but it can end up fun if you dont hire morons to continue the legacy of such setting.
Lovecraft is another example of Cosmic Horror that continued being done right.
D&D is an example of how to throw all your legacy to the shitter.
>another example
Howard was a friend of HPL's and canonized a lot of his gods if not shared the setting itself on a cosmic level.
yeah i know based racists write good like it has always been through history
>molag bal
>boethia
>azura
>clavicus vile
>sheogorath
>nocturnal
>malacath
>merunes dahgon
>hircine
>namira
>sanguine
>herma mora
>vaermina
>meridia
>jyggalag
>peryite
>mephalah
Elder Scrolls loregays are Tolkienites. They literally take any critique or discussion as an open attack and they get progressively weirder to interact with irl the deeper they are into the lore.
had better lore 20 years ago
Todd is the last of the old guard. The original writers and lore masters are gone.
dwemer mommy looks pretty hot ngl
The Dwarves escaped the Dream and became Us.
not a high bar, even wizard101 has better lore than soulslop
When people talked about tes lore, they talked about morrowind most of the time. Nobody gives a single shit about oblivion or skyrim lore (except that one moron who keeps making thalmor vs empire vs stormcloak thread).
Tes lore stopped being interesting once emil set his foot on bethesda and becomes a writer there. Fallout was pretty much dead on arrival in terms of lore and story because of this, and when NV was released, I remember people are comparing NV writing and lore to FO3 writing quality, leading to the conclusion that emil is a shit writer. Then skyrim got released, and people hates skyrim main story, with that dragonborn and such.
Unironically, kirkbride is the reason whypeople are not fully hating on skyrim lore yet because that guy apparently still wrote the lore and additional text for skyrim, sometimes they used it as a cope to hide their dissatisfation of emil writing quality in skyrim.
Then eso happened, bunch of teens who are never read a fantasy books except the one that are written by grrm and some women fantasy author worked on eso. Every lore was then neutered, every single thing in the lore was getting dissected and explained in the game, they almost did this shit with dwemer but todd stopped them btw. They're not as bad as emil in terms of writing, but their writing arent as good as the old TES either. There you have it, downfall of vidya fantasy writing started from TES
Do you think the dwemer knew what happened to them, that there was any time between the heart being dapped and them ceasing to exist where they were aware of the process? Or did they just all blink out without even knowing about it?
wat
everyone in Elder Scrolls is just a figment of some demiurge's dream, to preserve his likeness and visage
You try to kill that demiurge in Elder Scrolls III: morrowind
scatgay
>lrople get cliffnotes of the most outrageous pieces of the lore from others
>omg the lore is so crazy good 8====D 0:
lore sucks. Some of the stupidest nonsensical, waste of time shit you could ever read in your time in the game. It's also incredibly dry and boring
It being generally boring to discuss is why they added degenerate sex. Try to liven things up a bit.
shame about the gameplay though
Next time Todd does an interview I'd wish the interviewer would be versed in Elder Scrolls lore and ask him some basic questions about it. Todd talks about Fallout lore but I've never heard him talk about Elder Scrolls lore.
>What's Barenziah's son's name?
>What year did the Dwemer disappear?
>Name all the Daedric Princes
>How many years did the First Era Last?
I'd Imagine Todd could probably answer these. Emil probably not, which is fricking sad.
There's an interview of todd where he said that his son is playing skyrim and watching tes lore video on youtube and then explained the lore to him.
Maybe it'll give him some insight about the future tes lore writing or some kind
Todd would make some lies up, he always lies and very badly so it would be bad lore
Why are the dwemer blue? I thought they were gold.
Soulslop doesn't have lore just chatgpt shit
>Reddit art
Why are threads for both this game and Risk of Rain always flooded with Tumblr memes?
>He thinks TES is good lore
Don't tell him everything it ripped off from Robert E Howard
>conan
The DNA of TES is basic b***h DnD, and the mystical magical woodly woo type stuff is buddhism mixed with levayan satanism. Any conan stuff seems mostly superficial.
Nope. Its Conan, read about the gods and lovecraftian demons in conan you dont know shit. Half of the Daedra are straight up Conan stuff from the 30s.
They stole a lot, a frick load. Hercine for example is just Jhebbal Sag.
Wild nature gods are nothing new
I wouldn't be surprised if Howard ultimately based Jhebbal Sag on Pan, who's been around for some 2,000+ years now.
TES rehashes everything, because it's ultimately offbrand DnD. Bethesda didn't specifically singal out conan to pilfer ideas from.
>Bethesda didn't specifically singal out conan to pilfer ideas from.
in fact, in thinking about it, if bethesda did single out conan to pilfer ideas from, it probably would be a less shit setting.
"The ancient empires fall, the dark-skinned peoples fade and even the demons of antiquity gasp their last, but over all stands the Aryan barbarian, white-skinned, cold-eyed, dominant, the supreme fighting man of the earth." - Robert E. Howard
Nords would be even stronger and Redguards would be primitive Black folk & therfore more immersive. Like the black kingdoms in conan, kush and darfari which are full of cannibal primitive Black folk Kush has the least primitive ones.
Wasn't it Hinduism
>TES ripped off Conan!
>No, it ripped off Buddhism and LaVeyan Satanism!
how did lotr influence tes' metaphysics, exactly
>You see, all of reality is just the song of Eru Ilúvatar and the Ainur, who we think of as the gods, are just an extension of his will.
>You see, all of reality is just the dream of the Godhead, and the Aedra and Daedra, who we think of as the gods, are just an extension of its consciousness.
That's because most Elder Scrolls lore come from Elder Scrolls I, II and III with Michael Kirkbride doing most of the work for Elder Scrolls III
>implying Dark Souls games are setting the bar
Souls games drip-feed lore with its passive storytelling for Fromdrones to jerk off themselves to.
Elden Cringe unironically has good concepts bad execution. They should have made the mimic the origin of all human life instead of just being the silver tear and the origin of the silver homosexuals its so stupid and badly written. A lot of their ideas could have been much more. But the ideas are good themselves, its just that Miyazaki is a hack that can't write for shit & doesn't want to put in the effort.
Numidiumbros, why did he say no?
>this pretentious incoherent lore is better than the other pretentious incoherent lore
TES lore isn't really incoherent. Or at least the metaphysics aren't, anyway. It's a bunch of existing esoteric belief systems retrofitted into a video game universe in order to do a cheap "oh my frikking god we all live in a simulation :O" bit.
> It's a bunch of existing esoteric belief systems retrofitted into a video game universe in order to do a cheap "oh my frikking god we all live in a simulation :O" bit.
I mean its the same shit gnostics and moronic pot smoking philosophy fansoiboys believe still to this day dont even dare ask them about the aether or mind as a substance they will unironically defend that shit like they defend their virginity
>in order to do a cheap "oh my frikking god we all live in a simulation :O" bit.
That's just one interpretation
>elder scrolls lore is neither of those things, the fantasy physics are pretty straightforward
Lol, tell me what happened at red mountain homosexual.
>the only thing you need to do is navigate those conflicts and come up with a reasonable explanation for certain things
>you literally need to hallucinate and come up with the entire story on your own
These are the same cope.
its pretty funny how you can spin anything of quality into something "bad" by simply being as obnoxious as possible. its basically every other post on this site that follows this same exact formula.
>umm ACKshually taking inspiration from genuine spiritual and metaphysical ideas that living breathing people have believed for centuries... is le bad!
I noticed you can do a lot of things. Especially heinous is when people call anything fermented "rotten."
>beer is gross don't you know that its a tea made from boiled mashed up barley fetuses and hob genitals that they let sit out and rot for a few days?
elder scrolls lore is neither of those things, the fantasy physics are pretty straightforward and the lore contradictions come from intentional in-universe reasons, such as people lying or unintentionally exaggerating the truth
the only thing you need to do is navigate those conflicts and come up with a reasonable explanation for certain things
souls lore is just a bunch of vague inexplicable bullshit hinting at a depth that doesn't exist, there's genuinely so little going on and so little of it ties together in any way that you literally need to hallucinate and come up with the entire story on your own
I vastly prefer Souls' inference of lore rather than talking to someone about a teapot and them dumping literal paragraphs on you.
Is there any point in readig the 36 lessons of Vivec? I read part of one and it felt like a divine shitpost.
Everything Vivec says is a divine shitpost. His entire thing is using lies to tell the truth.
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>ywn contribute yourself to the GNU/midium
Post yfw All-Father Yakub is revealed as the next TES antagonist
The meaning of the words is FRICKOFF
Soulslop has such a boring setting.
>fantasy but everything is le dark and hopeless
Reddit incarnate.