They used to be. Modern bows are DEX. God, how cringeworthy they look. Just look at this woman. It looks like she's holding a drone. Might as well shoot from a rifle.
Yeah if you're highly experienced and IF you hit your mark in time, generally if I was betting on match between a shepard boy armed with a sling and a towering armored experienced soldier, I'd bet on the obvious choice. Which makes the story significant, because even though his chances were low he kept true and won.
I warmly welcome you to try using one yourself, the power of a small rock being propelled by rope and leather is absolutely staggering in the hands of anyone. The only problem you will quickly find is the accuracy, the rock will go literally every other way than the point you want and it takes a long time to get good at it hitting the vicinity of your target.
For context sheperds didn't use their slings to hit things, they just threw their stones a long ways off to scare off any predatory animals and scare sheep back to the herd. So the idea of a boy hitting an armored giant in one shot is impressive no matter what. Sorry for the long post, I'm serious about making your own sling though, they're easy to make and hellafun, just be careful with them.
You ever hear about that kid who got himself killed because he couldn't handle the recoil from firing a SMG?
A 10-year old being able to handle the recoil of a glock and knowing how to use and aim it is still impressive.
Yeah if you're highly experienced and IF you hit your mark in time, generally if I was betting on match between a shepard boy armed with a sling and a towering armored experienced soldier, I'd bet on the obvious choice. Which makes the story significant, because even though his chances were low he kept true and won.
Is one of these "one shoot" stories. If David misses of scores a poor hit he was beyond fricked.
It was bullshit.
That's like you and me fighting while I have a gun with only one bullet.
Yeah sure, if I miss I lose but it's not like I'm testing my strength or skill.
It's impressive because you can't be that accurate with a sling
It's a massed weapon for light skirmishers to throw a hail of stones toward an armoured enemy force and run away
One guy getting one shot and managing to strike goliath in the head was the point, against all odds, because god guided his stone or whatever
thinking about it makes me realize how israeli the bible as a whole is
the story was told by making up a giant unbeatable enemy and a small underdog with """faith""" while in reality (if it ever happened of course) it was probably a pretty even match, even favoring david I would say
imagine a medieval story about a crossbowman fighting a knight and oneshotting him
not so impressive right? but its the exact same story
slings are very dangerouse and easy as frick to use, a shepheard using one daily or regularly could easily "snipe" with one
Yeah they did and 99% of them couldn't "snipe" a headshot, they were cheap and mass moved into place to harras the enemy.
Going against an organized armed force however, their usefulness becomes null.
Sorry I'm peeved that the strength of the sling has been so overstated that people forgot about all their downsides, namely accuracy and speed. Anyone who has regularly used both a sling and a bow will innately know which is superior, the former simply being more affordable in mass numbers. I love slings but thats mostly because I can carry one around on my belt and use it whenever I want, can't do that with a bow and arrow.
Tons. Most armies levied civilians back in the day, and had ranks of slingers.
Yeah they did and 99% of them couldn't "snipe" a headshot, they were cheap and mass moved into place to harras the enemy.
Going against an organized armed force however, their usefulness becomes null.
Sorry I'm peeved that the strength of the sling has been so overstated that people forgot about all their downsides, namely accuracy and speed. Anyone who has regularly used both a sling and a bow will innately know which is superior, the former simply being more affordable in mass numbers. I love slings but thats mostly because I can carry one around on my belt and use it whenever I want, can't do that with a bow and arrow.
Most people can't hit a target at 15 feet with a gun on their first week. All ranged weapons are "le inaccurate" without drillings.
>imagine a medieval story about a crossbowman fighting a knight and oneshotting him >not so impressive right? but its the exact same story
It still is considering that to fire a crossbow you needed to crank back the string first which is hard if you're under attack by a guy with a sword.
when i was a kid they always depicted david's sling as a cartoony slingshot in bible cartoons, it was odd. I didn't know what it was actually supposed to be until I was a teenager, and I didn't know how fricking brutal that weapon could be until I got into reading about ancient world history.
Oh is it to maybe disuade kids from making their own slings and instead make them use those weak kid versions? I know there are serious slingshots but I a kid could just tie some string and cloth and start causing some serious havoc.
Could be. A bullet to the head from a sling could one shot anyone who's not wearing a helmet. Those primitive weapons were no joke... Yet Cain killed Abel with a fricking rock and that was never censored. You never hear about kids murdering each other with rocks.
It's interesting how the sling fell out of the common consciousness for so long. It's basically the first human ranged weapon. And it lasted straight up through the middle ages.
Even with a famous bible story to carry it, people forgot what slings were.
The internet seems to have brought this knowledge back. As well as lots of other little things. Like remember when nobody knew what Trebuchets were unless they played Age of Empires? They had to use the generic term "catapult" in movies so as not to confuse people.
Yeah, I played RTS games as a kid and was surprised people didn't know about Roman onagers and scorpios. I had no idea trebuchets only became part of normie vocabulary thanks to memes.
I was toying with the idea of having an educational presentation for kids on how powerful the sling can be and how ti make one.
And then I figured it was an incredibly bad idea and maybe kids shouldn't flick rocks at murder speeds because it's fun how fast they go and how they can make things explode if they hit them.
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Ah, just do it. Nothing bad can happen. Kids aren't what they used to be. This reminds me of the time I was tutoring a kid who was having trouble with History. I taught him how the legionnaires fought in formations, using gladii. I pretended his parents' kitchen knife was a gladius and taught him how to stab people properly. It was all in the heat of the moment. I'm sure he'll never stab anyone.
cont.
I just remembered how I learned about slings. I first saw them in Baldur's Gate 1. They were weak-ass ranged weapons maigc users could use. D&D was probably the catalyst for reminding people of slings' existence. Too bad they're represented as really weak, while in reality they were really deadly against unarmored opponents. I can see how mogged they get by bows since they're easier to aim with, but it takes much more skill to make a good bow and fletch the arrows compared to crafting slings with sone animal skin and launching some lead. good luck hitting the target with that.
It's interesting how the sling fell out of the common consciousness for so long. It's basically the first human ranged weapon. And it lasted straight up through the middle ages.
Even with a famous bible story to carry it, people forgot what slings were.
The internet seems to have brought this knowledge back. As well as lots of other little things. Like remember when nobody knew what Trebuchets were unless they played Age of Empires? They had to use the generic term "catapult" in movies so as not to confuse people.
>They had to use the generic term "catapult" in movies so as not to confuse people.
To be fair that's the studios' dim view of the flyover states specifically. See Harry Potter and the "Sorceror's" Stone.
>It's interesting how the sling fell out of the common consciousness for so long.
it suffered the fate of a lot of "cheap" weapons like the monkey's fist or blackjack
More like "Puny rat man defeats unarmed warrior with a siege weapon." David killing Goliath with a sling would be exactly like a man killing a larger man with a gun.
This has been the nature of warfare since forever. Honorable combat has always been less effective than cheap rock throwing tactics. And it has only gotten more pronounced over time. Now we don't even look at the people we're killing. We just lob bombs at them from miles away.
>Be low level DEXbuild in the ME servers >Picking factions >Guess I'll go with Roman >Just grinding low level israelites for a few years, trying not to piss off any of the higher level mobs >Based fricking gladius this thing is awesome for slaying israelites >One day see a new message in chat: >"XxXS0n_0f_G0dXxX logged in" >Dude picks caster (unreleased content) >Wtf I thought magic wasn't implemented into this game yet >Whatever, maybe he bought some in-game currency shit >Caster is an actual dickhead, causing trouble for the mods >Abusing exploits and glitches >Duping items >Transforming low level items (water) into high level items (wine) >noclipping out of his boat and actually walking on water >LITERALLY says "my dad made this game and he can get u banned kiddo" when the mods try to stop him >Have to resort to PVP to stop him >FINALLY kill that fricking guy after a whole fricking scene where he was yelling for his dad >We had to get a member of his guild to flip on him, that was the only way >I get to stab him with my spear to make sure he's dead >hesdead.jpg >PC dead, mods can finally step in and ban his ass from the server >Thank FRICK that's over with >Go back to grinding israelites >Three days later, see in chat: >"XxXS0n_0f_G0dXxX logged in" >For FRICK SAKE
if u really wanted to be pedantic anon u could argue that everything modeled after The Odyssey (basically all western literature) is fanfiction. the bibbler is like a separate, newer game. The Odyssey is like the original DOOM.
I know, right? Odysseus wasn't real. The only source that exists is Homeric poetry that mentions him. Jesus was totally real, though, because The Bible says he was.
I don't know if it's true, but apparently Indy shoots the guy because Harrison Ford had diarrhea. The sword guy was pissed, because he had spent weeks rehearsing what was meant to be like a two-page fight.
>considering sling proficiency for my mage >take daggers instead, because you can use them in melee and in range, and I have no idea what I'm doing yet >rolled 91 after a few minutes, so 18 str and 18 dex and my thac0 is actually on par with thieves and clerics >ends up being a great choice, because I can't be bothered to rest for trash mobs and I end up just hitting things 90% of the time even at lvl 5
Also shows how difficult it is to hit a small target like someone's head. Takes him like 20 attempts for each hit. Although this is an untrained man with a garbage sling.
David landing a headshot against Goliath would be either prodigious luck (attributed to god of course) or impressive skill. Or more likely both.
Ranged weapons of this era were not suited for dueling. They were intended to be used en mass against groups. You don't need to hit a single person. You just have to hit the enemy army.
Based. We fricked around with these in my middle school History class and its fricking amazing just how much of a force multiplier it is. Super easy to learn to use as well.
>small, weak israelite defeats big, strong gentile by hitting his head/eye
a blatant metaphor for using propaganda to subvert other tribes. Same as: >Jacob shows spotted and striped sticks to Leban's sheep. This turns their kids spotted and striped.
is an obvious metaphor for israelites using race mixing propaganda to muttify their enemies.
On the topic of video games, would be cool if there was a slow to windup and difficult to aim sling weapon in ER type game but it does increased damage or gives a guaranteed stun if you hit a headshot
>can't rematch because Goliath is dead
What are games with this feel?
>Biblical DEXgay BTFO a STRchud
Will they ever recover?
>slinging a rock
>dex
Any moron could pull that off.
>t. STRchud
It requires finesse to aim accurately, hence the DEX bonus to the skill. Same with bows.
>bows
Bows are STR you dumb c**t.
They used to be. Modern bows are DEX.
God, how cringeworthy they look. Just look at this woman. It looks like she's holding a drone. Might as well shoot from a rifle.
Slings are pretty low on the DEX scaling, also it was clearly an FTH buff build
David and Goliath misses a bit of its magic when you properly look at slings and realize that they were really fricked up as a weapon.
Yeah if you're highly experienced and IF you hit your mark in time, generally if I was betting on match between a shepard boy armed with a sling and a towering armored experienced soldier, I'd bet on the obvious choice. Which makes the story significant, because even though his chances were low he kept true and won.
>I'd bet on the obvious choice
The one with the ancient equivalent of a firearm?
I warmly welcome you to try using one yourself, the power of a small rock being propelled by rope and leather is absolutely staggering in the hands of anyone. The only problem you will quickly find is the accuracy, the rock will go literally every other way than the point you want and it takes a long time to get good at it hitting the vicinity of your target.
For context sheperds didn't use their slings to hit things, they just threw their stones a long ways off to scare off any predatory animals and scare sheep back to the herd. So the idea of a boy hitting an armored giant in one shot is impressive no matter what. Sorry for the long post, I'm serious about making your own sling though, they're easy to make and hellafun, just be careful with them.
You ever hear about that kid who got himself killed because he couldn't handle the recoil from firing a SMG?
A 10-year old being able to handle the recoil of a glock and knowing how to use and aim it is still impressive.
Is one of these "one shoot" stories. If David misses of scores a poor hit he was beyond fricked.
It was bullshit.
That's like you and me fighting while I have a gun with only one bullet.
Yeah sure, if I miss I lose but it's not like I'm testing my strength or skill.
Okay but it wasn't a fair fight anyways since Goliath was a giant and David was a shepard boy
It's impressive because you can't be that accurate with a sling
It's a massed weapon for light skirmishers to throw a hail of stones toward an armoured enemy force and run away
One guy getting one shot and managing to strike goliath in the head was the point, against all odds, because god guided his stone or whatever
It's basically the equivalent to this:
Goliath comes in with his big chungus knife and David just shoots him.
thinking about it makes me realize how israeli the bible as a whole is
the story was told by making up a giant unbeatable enemy and a small underdog with """faith""" while in reality (if it ever happened of course) it was probably a pretty even match, even favoring david I would say
imagine a medieval story about a crossbowman fighting a knight and oneshotting him
not so impressive right? but its the exact same story
slings are very dangerouse and easy as frick to use, a shepheard using one daily or regularly could easily "snipe" with one
So how many armies have been devestated by mass shepard slingers? They're effectively guns right?
you disingenuous moron
EVERY army in any nation had thousands slingers for 100s of years
why would anyone bother with them if they are useless?
Yeah they did and 99% of them couldn't "snipe" a headshot, they were cheap and mass moved into place to harras the enemy.
Going against an organized armed force however, their usefulness becomes null.
Sorry I'm peeved that the strength of the sling has been so overstated that people forgot about all their downsides, namely accuracy and speed. Anyone who has regularly used both a sling and a bow will innately know which is superior, the former simply being more affordable in mass numbers. I love slings but thats mostly because I can carry one around on my belt and use it whenever I want, can't do that with a bow and arrow.
Tons. Most armies levied civilians back in the day, and had ranks of slingers.
Most people can't hit a target at 15 feet with a gun on their first week. All ranged weapons are "le inaccurate" without drillings.
>imagine a medieval story about a crossbowman fighting a knight and oneshotting him
William Tell?
>imagine a medieval story about a crossbowman fighting a knight and oneshotting him
>not so impressive right? but its the exact same story
It still is considering that to fire a crossbow you needed to crank back the string first which is hard if you're under attack by a guy with a sword.
yeah and winning a gunfight is going to be hard when you have to assemble your gun first
why the frick wouldnt you load it BEFORE the fight?
because you can't exactly start swinging a sling before a fight
>The bible is pretty israeli
Ya don't say?
when i was a kid they always depicted david's sling as a cartoony slingshot in bible cartoons, it was odd. I didn't know what it was actually supposed to be until I was a teenager, and I didn't know how fricking brutal that weapon could be until I got into reading about ancient world history.
That's because most artists never heard of ancient military slings, anachronistically drawing slingSHOTS.
Oh is it to maybe disuade kids from making their own slings and instead make them use those weak kid versions? I know there are serious slingshots but I a kid could just tie some string and cloth and start causing some serious havoc.
Could be. A bullet to the head from a sling could one shot anyone who's not wearing a helmet. Those primitive weapons were no joke... Yet Cain killed Abel with a fricking rock and that was never censored. You never hear about kids murdering each other with rocks.
Yeah, I played RTS games as a kid and was surprised people didn't know about Roman onagers and scorpios. I had no idea trebuchets only became part of normie vocabulary thanks to memes.
I was toying with the idea of having an educational presentation for kids on how powerful the sling can be and how ti make one.
And then I figured it was an incredibly bad idea and maybe kids shouldn't flick rocks at murder speeds because it's fun how fast they go and how they can make things explode if they hit them.
Ah, just do it. Nothing bad can happen. Kids aren't what they used to be. This reminds me of the time I was tutoring a kid who was having trouble with History. I taught him how the legionnaires fought in formations, using gladii. I pretended his parents' kitchen knife was a gladius and taught him how to stab people properly. It was all in the heat of the moment. I'm sure he'll never stab anyone.
cont.
I just remembered how I learned about slings. I first saw them in Baldur's Gate 1. They were weak-ass ranged weapons maigc users could use. D&D was probably the catalyst for reminding people of slings' existence. Too bad they're represented as really weak, while in reality they were really deadly against unarmored opponents. I can see how mogged they get by bows since they're easier to aim with, but it takes much more skill to make a good bow and fletch the arrows compared to crafting slings with sone animal skin and launching some lead. good luck hitting the target with that.
It's interesting how the sling fell out of the common consciousness for so long. It's basically the first human ranged weapon. And it lasted straight up through the middle ages.
Even with a famous bible story to carry it, people forgot what slings were.
The internet seems to have brought this knowledge back. As well as lots of other little things. Like remember when nobody knew what Trebuchets were unless they played Age of Empires? They had to use the generic term "catapult" in movies so as not to confuse people.
>They had to use the generic term "catapult" in movies so as not to confuse people.
To be fair that's the studios' dim view of the flyover states specifically. See Harry Potter and the "Sorceror's" Stone.
>It's interesting how the sling fell out of the common consciousness for so long.
it suffered the fate of a lot of "cheap" weapons like the monkey's fist or blackjack
>puny small rat man defeats a giant warrior through ~~*guile*~~
it was always right there isn't it?
More like "Puny rat man defeats unarmed warrior with a siege weapon." David killing Goliath with a sling would be exactly like a man killing a larger man with a gun.
Well you know the saying, don't bring a knife (or a sword in this case) to a sling shot fight.
This has been the nature of warfare since forever. Honorable combat has always been less effective than cheap rock throwing tactics. And it has only gotten more pronounced over time. Now we don't even look at the people we're killing. We just lob bombs at them from miles away.
"honourable combat" is an oxymoron
over 2000 years of seething over random crits
work smarter, not harder
Why did he frick up so bad after winning it all and getting loyalty like no other?
he was israeli duh
He was an Israelite. Read more kings imo.
>summoner class heavily nerfed after the new testament patch
Fricking bullshit
>Be low level DEXbuild in the ME servers
>Picking factions
>Guess I'll go with Roman
>Just grinding low level israelites for a few years, trying not to piss off any of the higher level mobs
>Based fricking gladius this thing is awesome for slaying israelites
>One day see a new message in chat:
>"XxXS0n_0f_G0dXxX logged in"
>Dude picks caster (unreleased content)
>Wtf I thought magic wasn't implemented into this game yet
>Whatever, maybe he bought some in-game currency shit
>Caster is an actual dickhead, causing trouble for the mods
>Abusing exploits and glitches
>Duping items
>Transforming low level items (water) into high level items (wine)
>noclipping out of his boat and actually walking on water
>LITERALLY says "my dad made this game and he can get u banned kiddo" when the mods try to stop him
>Have to resort to PVP to stop him
>FINALLY kill that fricking guy after a whole fricking scene where he was yelling for his dad
>We had to get a member of his guild to flip on him, that was the only way
>I get to stab him with my spear to make sure he's dead
>hesdead.jpg
>PC dead, mods can finally step in and ban his ass from the server
>Thank FRICK that's over with
>Go back to grinding israelites
>Three days later, see in chat:
>"XxXS0n_0f_G0dXxX logged in"
>For FRICK SAKE
>its all one giant shitty MMO
is still my favorite theory for reality
>Three days later, see in chat:
>"XxXS0n_0f_G0dXxX logged in"
LMAO
>giant mutt vs the king of israelites
Yeah totally not rigged.
>He attacked Polyphemus on his sleep
You didn't beat The Odyssey
>nude mods
Freaking coomers ruining my hobby!
why are you playing gay fanfiction in the first place?
The legend of the Odyssey was old when the Bible (old Testament too) was new
if u really wanted to be pedantic anon u could argue that everything modeled after The Odyssey (basically all western literature) is fanfiction. the bibbler is like a separate, newer game. The Odyssey is like the original DOOM.
I know, right? Odysseus wasn't real. The only source that exists is Homeric poetry that mentions him. Jesus was totally real, though, because The Bible says he was.
Games with good slings? Only one I know and got me into slinging is Northern Journey.
>he used guns
You didn't win the war
>he used the pre-patch Donkey Jaw
you didn't beat 1000 men
I was sad when I found out that the ass' jaw is a ritual tool and not a blade in Conan Exiles
>using Lend & Lease
He didn’t win the war
If the devs didn't want me to use it, then they shouldn't have included it 🙂
I don't know if it's true, but apparently Indy shoots the guy because Harrison Ford had diarrhea. The sword guy was pissed, because he had spent weeks rehearsing what was meant to be like a two-page fight.
do you really think george lucas can write a two page fight scene lol
It wasn't written by Lucas, it was written by Lawrence Kasdan, who also wrote Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
>OH MY SCIENCE DID I EVER TELL YOU THE STORY OF DAVID GOLDBERG THE WISE VERSUS DARTH GOYLIATH
samson clears
goliath is just a shitter
>considering sling proficiency for my mage
>take daggers instead, because you can use them in melee and in range, and I have no idea what I'm doing yet
>rolled 91 after a few minutes, so 18 str and 18 dex and my thac0 is actually on par with thieves and clerics
>ends up being a great choice, because I can't be bothered to rest for trash mobs and I end up just hitting things 90% of the time even at lvl 5
Aren't D&D/Forgotten Realms' slings those weird Lacrosse stick things?
they look like normal slings, at least in the game
>rolled 91 after a few minutes
you didn't beat the game
I rolled 97 on my first click for my dual short swords human ranger
Slings are scary https://youtu.be/RzDMCVdPwnE
Also shows how difficult it is to hit a small target like someone's head. Takes him like 20 attempts for each hit. Although this is an untrained man with a garbage sling.
David landing a headshot against Goliath would be either prodigious luck (attributed to god of course) or impressive skill. Or more likely both.
Ranged weapons of this era were not suited for dueling. They were intended to be used en mass against groups. You don't need to hit a single person. You just have to hit the enemy army.
Most terrific weapon terrorizing poor Israel soldiers forcing them to drop nukes in Gaza.
For me it's the atlatl
Based. We fricked around with these in my middle school History class and its fricking amazing just how much of a force multiplier it is. Super easy to learn to use as well.
Thankls for the free eureka, homosexual.
>small, weak israelite defeats big, strong gentile by hitting his head/eye
a blatant metaphor for using propaganda to subvert other tribes. Same as:
>Jacob shows spotted and striped sticks to Leban's sheep. This turns their kids spotted and striped.
is an obvious metaphor for israelites using race mixing propaganda to muttify their enemies.
On the topic of video games, would be cool if there was a slow to windup and difficult to aim sling weapon in ER type game but it does increased damage or gives a guaranteed stun if you hit a headshot