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https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Pressing_Matters >People have been counterfeiting bottle caps forever, but it's always been small scale. A bottle cap press is a whole other threat. We can't have anyone devaluing our currency by mass producing new bottle caps.
It's actually a pretty big threat, pretty sure there's a quest in F:NV where they talk about having to actively hunt presses to destroy them.
Caps were only a currency when backed by water in the Hub, they were abandoned afterwards.
NCR tried to incorporate FIAT, but that's gay, Legion money is rare metals, bottle caps are on the east because Bethesda doesn't understand the series, and they're in F:NV, because of Fallout 3.
Think they should have gone with poker chips to represent money backed by Vegas.
In Fallout New Vegas at least, they explain that when the NCR switched to fiat currency, some people didn't trust it and stuck with caps because the water merchants continued to honor trading each cap for a standard unit of water. People came to visit New Vegas and had caps to spend, so the casinos accepted them and became the money changers of the region.
It's honestly just a way to explain the re-use of caps from FO3.
Honestly, New Vegas would be even better if there's no "universal" currency, and you are forced to only use NCR dollars in NCR or Casear coin only in Casesar territory.
They suck for the exact reason this joke character mentioned. And then the whole thing is glossed over because "lol look at this obvious scam, imagine NOT using bottlecaps lmao"
Bottle caps do not make sense as a currency and especially not for that reason, money is supposed to be a liquid commodity and bottle caps are essentially fiat even if they are not paper, unless there is some sort of insanely rich collector or rather society of collectors that need more of the same kind which is dumb. It makes more sense that they would revert to gold because it has fundamental properties that lends itself to being good money, not just the fungibility and untarnishable qualities but because a high value commodity tends to be the most universally desired. A lack of available gold wouldn’t be an issue either because money supply is irrelevant as it is infinitely divisible. This is of course extremely taboo in our world where real economics is outright banned from universities and gold is a dirty word.
Can i get a response that isnt a moronic meme one? Gold is a shit currency when your enemies can just flood your economy with it and brick it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Explain how such a flooding would occur lollol
2 months ago
Anonymous
Take a shit load of gold and spend it, the frick do you mean? The only people who want the gold standard back are a bunch of morons who believe some bullshit on youtube thinking its a superior system. Completely ignorant of the issues it had and WHY we switched. No you dumbfrick its not cause of israelites.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Trve. It was the Irish, the Hibernian Conspiracy, they want to hoard all the gold for themselves to store at the end of their rainbows
It's a joke character. The whole point is that you are supposed to think it is an obvious scam. Because surely nobody would criticize the use of caps aside from con men.
It's a joke that works only for player. Makes no sense for someone to try and scam someone, unless he knows his target is new to this whole post apocalypse thing. It would be like saying: DUDE! You dollarydoos are bullshit, better get rid of em! That would never work haha.
thats definitely an issue all around in Bethesda fallout, but especially 4. The game has a lot of this snarky meta commentary that only works if the npc you just met somehow knows you woke up from cryosleep literally minutes ago.
It's a joke character full stop. The player is supposed to immediately recognize it as a scam, which is why most of the options in dialogue with him are all calling him out on the scam. The issue is that what he is saying is a completely legitimate point. Bottlecaps are an incredibly shit form of currency, and there are dozens of other things that should be used as a currency instead. But the player isn't supposed to think this, they are supposed to think >oh funny accent scam lol
Damn you, you stole MY POST that I was going to use for bait threads. And you didn't even put your name on the sign up sheet for the next round of Fallout bait threads.
They made sense in Fallout 1, and I think Timmy was initially not a fan of the reuse of caps in Fallout 3. These days his opinion is probably different, and I really want to know what mental gymnastics he can conjure up.
He thought >oh funny Boyston accent ahahaha cahr pahrk
Then completely ignored the actual implications of what was being written, unaware that the blatant joke character is completely correct, and you are just supposed to assume it is a scam because only a maniac would propose an alternative to caps.
>They don’t make sense
Neither does anything else in fallout. It’s a post apocalypse, caps is a unique part of fallouts identity. Genuinely who would want paper money to take away from a games identity other then some sick sense of superiority, superiority you only got because Fallout 2 did away with caps and that’s how you think the whole series should be. Fallout 2 also is a meme and reference hellfest, the last thing you want is to carry on the ideas from 2. NV had the right idea going back to caps, and from there the standard was set. Hell the only reason paper money makes sense in 2 is that’s it’s backed by gold from the NCR, tell me what the rest of the wasteland would use to back their money? Is megaton going to base their money on atomic material? Rivet city base their money on… rivets? Do you think the NCR would just colonize the entire wasteland and make the whole fallout series exploring whatever the NCR is doing now, until the series is just “America 2: but everywhere looks like Detroit”
That’s the issue with post post apocalyptic games, can’t really keep going more post until you hit a wall and make a GTA game instead of fallout
>Hey KL-E-O, I have some crap to sell you >oh.. haha... um bottlecaps? Don't you have like pre-War money? >No? You scrapped it all and made it into clothes? >o-oh... okay, bottlecaps it is, because that is what literally everyone uses as their standard currency
Fair I guess that would make lunch boxes like the 100 dollar bill though I’m not sure how you snort cocaine with a lunch box
Yeah, except literally nobody carries it in bulk and it is treated like any other junk item in the Wasteland with scavengers literally referring to it as kindling. It's not like Arturo or KL-E-O are carrying a stack of 300 pre-War money in their inventory.
Obviously caps are the fallout currency but hypothetically cloth would be a better money and there is even a place in africa where cloth is considered money. Natural money is always a commodity.
>Obviously caps are the fallout currency but hypothetically cloth would be a better money
That's the point. In Fallout 4's setting, something other than bottlecaps should be used for obvious reasons. But you are supposed to laugh when a character brings this up, like it is some obvious exaggeration for a scam pitch. But what the character is saying is completely true, and somehow Emil didn't stop to think about the implications of adding a character pointing directly to the very clear issues with bottlecaps.
Yeah, except literally nobody carries it in bulk and it is treated like any other junk item in the Wasteland with scavengers literally referring to it as kindling. It's not like Arturo or KL-E-O are carrying a stack of 300 pre-War money in their inventory.
That's good, yeah, ammo should actually be the de facto currency of the Wasteland. Because in a barter system, shit like cigarettes and liquor becomes the basic building block of trade. Ammo included for its natural usefulness. Of course, once society rebuilds, these commodities which are consumed shouldn't be used as currency anymore. Aside from the fact that they are inherently non-durable goods designed for consumption, they are also notably heavy and or fragile. So naturally, you'd use something like coins or dollar. You know what you would not use? Fricking bottlecaps. Which is why it is fricking moronic that bottlecaps are the standard currency beyond Fallout 1. Yet there it is. The standard currency that everyone accepts and carries in bulk, the thing every merchant has, and the very measure of wealth in Fallout 4. Then Emil writes a character, that character makes an actually good point, bottlecaps are fricking terrible as a form of currency. And this fact is played as a joke.
what game is that?
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Daily reminder that bottlecaps as an effective currency has stopped being a thing since FO2.
FO3 brought it back because they are lorelet.
NCR and Kai-saar made their own money, so it's on you, Emil.
caesars money is still just coins. bottle caps work as a currency because theres so much of it and it cant be inflated
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Pressing_Matters
>People have been counterfeiting bottle caps forever, but it's always been small scale. A bottle cap press is a whole other threat. We can't have anyone devaluing our currency by mass producing new bottle caps.
ok you got me you win i forgot about the press there
It's actually a pretty big threat, pretty sure there's a quest in F:NV where they talk about having to actively hunt presses to destroy them.
Caps were only a currency when backed by water in the Hub, they were abandoned afterwards.
NCR tried to incorporate FIAT, but that's gay, Legion money is rare metals, bottle caps are on the east because Bethesda doesn't understand the series, and they're in F:NV, because of Fallout 3.
Think they should have gone with poker chips to represent money backed by Vegas.
In Fallout New Vegas at least, they explain that when the NCR switched to fiat currency, some people didn't trust it and stuck with caps because the water merchants continued to honor trading each cap for a standard unit of water. People came to visit New Vegas and had caps to spend, so the casinos accepted them and became the money changers of the region.
Neat. Didn't catch that.
It's honestly just a way to explain the re-use of caps from FO3.
Honestly, New Vegas would be even better if there's no "universal" currency, and you are forced to only use NCR dollars in NCR or Casear coin only in Casesar territory.
They suck for the exact reason this joke character mentioned. And then the whole thing is glossed over because "lol look at this obvious scam, imagine NOT using bottlecaps lmao"
Bottle caps do not make sense as a currency and especially not for that reason, money is supposed to be a liquid commodity and bottle caps are essentially fiat even if they are not paper, unless there is some sort of insanely rich collector or rather society of collectors that need more of the same kind which is dumb. It makes more sense that they would revert to gold because it has fundamental properties that lends itself to being good money, not just the fungibility and untarnishable qualities but because a high value commodity tends to be the most universally desired. A lack of available gold wouldn’t be an issue either because money supply is irrelevant as it is infinitely divisible. This is of course extremely taboo in our world where real economics is outright banned from universities and gold is a dirty word.
why do so many people on this website get filtered by how fiat currency works.
>why do so many people get filtered by how fiat currency works.
FTFY
Because it's a basically a necessary evil and banks should be killed in all cases.
Can i get a response that isnt a moronic meme one? Gold is a shit currency when your enemies can just flood your economy with it and brick it.
Explain how such a flooding would occur lollol
Take a shit load of gold and spend it, the frick do you mean? The only people who want the gold standard back are a bunch of morons who believe some bullshit on youtube thinking its a superior system. Completely ignorant of the issues it had and WHY we switched. No you dumbfrick its not cause of israelites.
Trve. It was the Irish, the Hibernian Conspiracy, they want to hoard all the gold for themselves to store at the end of their rainbows
It's a joke character. The whole point is that you are supposed to think it is an obvious scam. Because surely nobody would criticize the use of caps aside from con men.
It's a joke that works only for player. Makes no sense for someone to try and scam someone, unless he knows his target is new to this whole post apocalypse thing. It would be like saying: DUDE! You dollarydoos are bullshit, better get rid of em! That would never work haha.
thats definitely an issue all around in Bethesda fallout, but especially 4. The game has a lot of this snarky meta commentary that only works if the npc you just met somehow knows you woke up from cryosleep literally minutes ago.
It's a joke character full stop. The player is supposed to immediately recognize it as a scam, which is why most of the options in dialogue with him are all calling him out on the scam. The issue is that what he is saying is a completely legitimate point. Bottlecaps are an incredibly shit form of currency, and there are dozens of other things that should be used as a currency instead. But the player isn't supposed to think this, they are supposed to think
>oh funny accent scam lol
The NCR dollar is worth jack shit after the BoS raided their gold reserves.
>Still has monetary value in game
???
It's still shit enough that most people still prefer Caps. Even The Hub went back to using Caps.
Damn you, you stole MY POST that I was going to use for bait threads. And you didn't even put your name on the sign up sheet for the next round of Fallout bait threads.
Now, anon... you're gonna tempt Tim Cain to make a 30 minute video explaining why caps make sense.
They made sense in Fallout 1, and I think Timmy was initially not a fan of the reuse of caps in Fallout 3. These days his opinion is probably different, and I really want to know what mental gymnastics he can conjure up.
How the frick did Emil write this entire dialogue exchange without any self-awareness?
He thought
>oh funny Boyston accent ahahaha cahr pahrk
Then completely ignored the actual implications of what was being written, unaware that the blatant joke character is completely correct, and you are just supposed to assume it is a scam because only a maniac would propose an alternative to caps.
>They don’t make sense
Neither does anything else in fallout. It’s a post apocalypse, caps is a unique part of fallouts identity. Genuinely who would want paper money to take away from a games identity other then some sick sense of superiority, superiority you only got because Fallout 2 did away with caps and that’s how you think the whole series should be. Fallout 2 also is a meme and reference hellfest, the last thing you want is to carry on the ideas from 2. NV had the right idea going back to caps, and from there the standard was set. Hell the only reason paper money makes sense in 2 is that’s it’s backed by gold from the NCR, tell me what the rest of the wasteland would use to back their money? Is megaton going to base their money on atomic material? Rivet city base their money on… rivets? Do you think the NCR would just colonize the entire wasteland and make the whole fallout series exploring whatever the NCR is doing now, until the series is just “America 2: but everywhere looks like Detroit”
That’s the issue with post post apocalyptic games, can’t really keep going more post until you hit a wall and make a GTA game instead of fallout
No he doesn't because you can still barter with prewar money
>Hey KL-E-O, I have some crap to sell you
>oh.. haha... um bottlecaps? Don't you have like pre-War money?
>No? You scrapped it all and made it into clothes?
>o-oh... okay, bottlecaps it is, because that is what literally everyone uses as their standard currency
Prewar money having an actual use value makes it better than caps still
bottlecap mines
Fair I guess that would make lunch boxes like the 100 dollar bill though I’m not sure how you snort cocaine with a lunch box
Obviously caps are the fallout currency but hypothetically cloth would be a better money and there is even a place in africa where cloth is considered money. Natural money is always a commodity.
>Obviously caps are the fallout currency but hypothetically cloth would be a better money
That's the point. In Fallout 4's setting, something other than bottlecaps should be used for obvious reasons. But you are supposed to laugh when a character brings this up, like it is some obvious exaggeration for a scam pitch. But what the character is saying is completely true, and somehow Emil didn't stop to think about the implications of adding a character pointing directly to the very clear issues with bottlecaps.
Yeah, except literally nobody carries it in bulk and it is treated like any other junk item in the Wasteland with scavengers literally referring to it as kindling. It's not like Arturo or KL-E-O are carrying a stack of 300 pre-War money in their inventory.
You can get tender in the form of ammo so irrelevant
That's good, yeah, ammo should actually be the de facto currency of the Wasteland. Because in a barter system, shit like cigarettes and liquor becomes the basic building block of trade. Ammo included for its natural usefulness. Of course, once society rebuilds, these commodities which are consumed shouldn't be used as currency anymore. Aside from the fact that they are inherently non-durable goods designed for consumption, they are also notably heavy and or fragile. So naturally, you'd use something like coins or dollar. You know what you would not use? Fricking bottlecaps. Which is why it is fricking moronic that bottlecaps are the standard currency beyond Fallout 1. Yet there it is. The standard currency that everyone accepts and carries in bulk, the thing every merchant has, and the very measure of wealth in Fallout 4. Then Emil writes a character, that character makes an actually good point, bottlecaps are fricking terrible as a form of currency. And this fact is played as a joke.
Bethesda doesn't understand Fallout outside of iconography
>still playing toddverse bullshit in 2024
where are the banks in fallout? and ~~*who*~~ runs them?
do ~~*they*~~ have digital currency for caps? and an exchange rate for different currencies?
Isn't this the character that is Emil's self-insert and calls the player character a moron?