Hey so which persona game is the best? I don't see people comparing them too often. Especially 1 and 2 are they worth playing?
Hey so which persona game is the best? I don't see people comparing them too often.
Hey so which persona game is the best? I don't see people comparing them too often. Especially 1 and 2 are they worth playing?
persona started at 3 and ended with 3
fpbp
just play 3 and call it the rest of the series is kinda gay
SMT is good though
I'll respect anyone who says 3 is their favorite, but my opinion is that 4 is quintessential persona.
*4
they are all the same
3>4>1>5>2.
Although I would probably recommend 4 to first timers more than 3.
>1 over 5
Im glad you did not question putting 2 at the end. Its shit.
but y
The only game in the series with a REAL returning character in it (Cameos like Chihiro dont count) and they ruin best girl? P2 is bad for other reasons but they are irrelevant.
P5 is where games start on the playable scale. It has very cute designs but fumbles a lot with writing the girls. My favorites were the guys.
Ok whatever coomer, atleast P3 is up where it belongs
>Imagine thinking anyone who is just a coomer would bother playing P1 & 2
silent maya is an improvement
I was actually talking about Eriko from P1 to P2.
Persona started at 3
only 3, 4, 5 are worth playing
That's right. gays don't actually miss the first three.
3>4>5
Never played 1 and 2.
there is no such thing as 1 and 2 moron, everyone knows Persona started at 3. Also, don't believe those morons who claim that Persona is a sin off derivated from another series
3 > 5 > 4 > 2 > 1
Persona 2 is one of the worst RPGs ever made and I have never seen a single good defense of it. It's one of the only games I can think of that people "play" purely to boost their own egos and vanity. Anyone who actually sits down and plays it unanimously agree that it's bad to the point of being unplayable.
but it has not Hitler and a good story
The cope answer always starts with Hortlur.
He is not based enough to salvage a shitty game.
P1 and P2 are interesting games though the gameplay is a slog.
P3 started the whole calendar system/friend simulator, but the entire theme of the game is based around it. Story and characters are pretty good. Gameplay is fine, though maybe a little basic compare the 4 and 5.
P4 (P3-2). It's P3 with a lighter tone in story, less interesting characters but more content in terms of Slice of Life/friend simulator events. Gameplay is a slightly improved P3.
P5 (P3-3). It's P3 with a lot of improvements to the combat, but the vanilla release had way less friend simulator events than P4 golden, and the story and characters are also pretty flat. Maybe P5 Royal added more content but vanilla was pretty barebones, and I never could be arsed to finish it (got to the boat dungeon and dropped the game out of boredom).
Honestly I like P3 the best out of all of them.
3 has best story
5 has best gameplay
4 has best comfy
1,2IS and 2EP are pretty much a different series with a different gameplay and tone, treat them like you would The Legend of Heroes from the Trails series
1 and 2 are interesting but a pain in the ass to play
3 is an actual masterpiece and one of the best JRPGs of all time (Portable sucks, emulate one of the PS2 versions)
4 is pretty good but not as good as 3
5 is okay but not as good as 4
This is the correct opinion. Glad we got that figured out
I'd put 5 and 4 as basically the same
I think 4 only is better received here because of the endless Chie threads we had until Persona 5 released, but P5 does everything better, 4 is simply much more iconic for Ganker dwellers
I'd put it more like:
3>4>2(is & ep)>5(base)>1>4(golden)>3-The answer>5(royal)
3 is just peak, but there's room for improvement and tartarus gets repetitive even for me
4 gets rid of some gameplay elements that should've been expanded upon and the story is too bubbly and bordering on cringe but still a top tier rpg
2 is a mess and kino but whoever were the morons that designed and programmed the battles to be that slow and frequent should be gunned down, the story is good but you definitely need to play them one after the other like one really long game and that is to its detriment
5's saving grace is the gameplay but the story is so shit after makoto, the boat and casino were a little enjoyable at points but atlus needs new writers
1 is such a pain in the ass but the story is ok and ends very satisfying at least
4 golden extra stuff is too weeby and cringe and Marie sue is just insufferable, they desperately wanted to make a new Elizabeth and failed
Answer should've never been made
5 royal is proof that they needed to get new writers
Probably 2 and 3, 5 is decent just because it has enemy demons, and 1 and 4 suck massive ass. But overall the whole series is mediocre.
4 > 5 > 3
3 > 5 > 4
1 and 2 don’t matter. Atlus games before the PS2 were horrible kusoge only held up by their unique concepts.
Gameplay wise they were, but man SMT1 and 2 had a kino plotline and athmosphere, those are the ones which should have been remade
I want the remake to make her real
5 is the best overall as much as people want to be contrarian about it here. 3 does a couple things better and I've heard the story in 2 is better(but frick actually playing it) but everything is done at least well in 5.
I want to have sex with Yukari so bad
It's not that simple...
I have that max charisma. Yukari is sure to have sex with me.
But can Yukari escape from my Strength stat?
5>3>4>EP>IS>1
But they're all great
nope, 1 mogs EP and IS
I want to BE Yukari
Persona 3 Portable is the best.
1 is best read in the manga format. The game is pure grind combat.
I never played 2's, but same as 1, there's no social mechanics.
4 is okayish, takes too long and lacks the charm of P3P
5 Royal is the most polished one, but the combat sucks.
SMT1, SMT2, SMT:SJR absolutely mog any Persona game gameplay-wise. SMT3 and SMT4 are pure trash.
>Each dungeon is carefully crafted to be fun
SMT1 dungeons become unbearable right when you enter diamond realm, and they become so bad afterwards I considered taking up Alice's offer to kill myself
>SMT1's gameplay mogging anything
All you do in SMT1 is spam Zio in combat and spam Estoma out of combat to get around the awful encounter rate. I enjoyed the game for what it is, but come on.
Holy awful taste, the re-release persona versions are all terrible ESPECIALLY portable that guts P3 like a fish. All the mainline SMT games MOG all the Persona games gameplay wise, especially 3, 4 and 5.
>the re-release persona versions are all terrible
That dude has shit taste but FES, Golden, and Royal and the best versions of the games.
God the new artstyle and portraits are so fricking soulless and dogshit
Soulless and dogshit is that new walking dead and King Kong game, that’re both from the same studio apparently, you’re just nitpicking.
Im seeing alot of people in this thread reguard persona 3 as the best persona game
Is it actually that good? What does it do that persona 5 doesn't
The story and some of the characters are better written.
That's about it.
Top-tier atmosphere
For me, it's the proportion of gameplay to non-gameplay. My first run of P3 took me 80 hours and felt 50/50 in terms of dungeon crawling and visual novel stuff. My first run of P5R took me 150 hours and felt like 75% of the game was visual novel stuff. I dropped the original version of P5 before finishing it because I got so bored with the amount of fluff dialogue and cutscenes.
>finish palace
>get story resolution
>now there's 2 hours of railroad until the next palace is open and you do shit again
I like the game, but jesus christ I just want to play it
>Is it actually that good? What does it do that persona 5 doesn't
Characters are actually their own people and not your dicksuckers, to the point they don't really hang out as friends for the most part and only the girls are social links, since you have to be able to fugg them.
Each of them also has their personal growth, actual growth, not the return to starting point shit the sequels pull off. Junpei getting probably the best character arc in the whole series.
The game is thematically really sound, the theme of the game is Death and you can see it all around the game, the velvet room comes from the masque of red death after all... It doesn't shy away with having important charaters die either, not before FES and P3P dabbed on the fanservice bullshit and slowly gave you the option to. In general, the game just seems to have a more serious , climacticand introspective tone compared to P4 and 5. The best I can explain it with an analogy is P3 compared to P4 and P5 is like Welcome to the NHK compared to Scooby Doo and Sailor Moon
>Characters are actually their own people and not your dicksuckers
Thanks, don't need to read the rest of the post. All your Party Members in P5 start out as enemies, all your social links are criminal contracts both of them you have to develop before they will become your friends
you didin't play P5
give him a break, nobody actually played p5
No, YOU didn't play P5.
He's right, unless you think Makoto blackmailing the PTs wasn't hostile or Yusuke defending Madarame until he got dragged into his Palace was him acting on the PTs side.
>haru
>morgana
>ryuji
>ann
>even futaba is more client than antagonist
Not all of them are enemies before joining, but that some of them are still refutes that they're all dicksuckers and not their own people.
As soon as a character arc is over they become your eternal dicksucker for the rest of the game and might aswell not be there, with the exception of Makoto who becomes the recipient of the dicksucking instead. Ryuji and Ann being the worst offenders, who, after the Futaba arc, only drop one useless line from time to time reminiscent of Wilson's "I too am in this episode" in that gif.
>If you ignore a character's arc and only focus only on them at the end when they're you're friend it's like they don't even have an arc!
Dude
They don't feel like characters who have an arc, they feel like those "characters of the episode" in on the road animes like One Piece or Pokemon except for some reason they stick for the rest of the game even though they are already done. Their "arc" is just a fart in the wind to set up the dungeon
Like 80% of the game is the one off episodes of the party.
You never read One Piece if you think that it ever had anything like "character of the episode"
I never read it, but I used to catch episode of the anime on tv when I was a child and they were all like that
Not really, if you're only criteria for whether someone's a dicksucker or not is how hostile they are then Morgana is explicitly not a dicksucker because he temporarily leaves the group. I agree that Ann does reach a point of never adding anything to a conversation and just says something generic so that she's not saying nothing at all after a certain point, but what she does say isn't usually a comment to suck Joker's dick, it's usually some "We can do this" kind of comment. Ryuji isn't like that at all though and is the center of the whole subplot about the PTs letting the fame get to their head, giving him a very rare occasion of development that isn't signalled by a Persona evolution or awakening in these games.
I wouldn't say the others become nothing but dicksuckers either, Yusuke's comments are usually something about him being eccentric and poor, Haru is usually just generally nice, Futaba usually plays off Yusuke or says something to make her come across like a nerd. They all lay some praise on the protagonist, but none of them ever devolve to just being his dicksucker.
>They don't dicksuck you because the plot made them unavailable to dicksuck you.
Well yeah Rise also does not go full UWU until she's part of the group, that's kinda obvious. You kinda need to y'know talk to be a yes-man. Everyone in P5 with the sole exception of Yusuke is there to kiss Jokers ass
How is Ann Ryuji and Haru your enemy you wienergobler
P5's cast is doodoo like it's not even funny, Haru literally forgives her fathers killer and teams up with him for the lolz
Nice deflecting moron. Yes the first four party members aren't adversarial but Futaba is literally an arc villain blackmailing the PT to solver her own problems and Haru teams up with Morgana to compete against the PT at the start of her arc. Hell, your dumbass friends all think she's Black Mask.
>All your Party Members in P5 start out as enemies
>all your social links are criminal contracts
>the return to starting point shit the sequels pull off.
P3 does do this with characters like Mitsuru and P4 and 5 don't do it with plenty of characters. Most characters in 4 and 5 have development in a very formulaic way where it's all done in the month they join the party, as opposed to P3 where some characters have development that goes across the whole game or just in a small section or whatever, but in that month where characters develop in 4 and 5 their development is pretty clear and not often just returning to how they were, because they're developed in their introduction you don't even typically get to see how they were before anyway, so in the case of someone like Rise who might fit that bill, the Rise you've been interacting up to then wasn't the bubbly idol she used to be, she was the girl looking for some privacy at the tofu shop.
I don't think it's the best, but it does have a novelty to it that makes it stand out even with P4 and 5 iterating on that novelty.
everything even the gameplay it's also the only persona game with a good ending
Personally, I think 5 is the best one but 3 is the only one I think can match it. 5 is a much more polished game and developed a lot of thr ideas 3 had to their natural apex particularly social links but 3 is interesting for going all in to being a social sim and doing things even if they screw over the gameplay purely to maintain the sim element. They're both fantastic games in their own right.
What's wrong with 4?
Nothing. But 4 is, and I don't mean this as an insult, an asset flip of Persona 3 in the literal sense. Mechanically it has some minor improvements over 3 but it is mostly the same game with a totally different story and environments.
There's actual variety to weapons to make your character more you + it wasn't balanced around being a completionist, so you have more freedom to do whatever.
There isn't an agreed upon best. Some people will even say 2 is the best but personally I think you should never touch either 2 game. They're easily among the worst games Atlus has put out in my opinion.
Story: 2
Atmosphere: 3
Gameplay: 5
Soundtrack: 3P
3 is a good game with strong themes but the main dungeon sucks ass and the characters don't feel like friends unless you play the femc.
4 is a good game with strong themes and manages to be fun throughout instead of depressing, but because the subject isn't as heavy people don't like it.
5 has the downsides of 3 without the upsides of 3. it gets better graphics at the expense of replay value as well. also the only one of the 3 with a botched translation.
Yukari fingering my butthole...
We're not getting a remake with comments like that
But I want it...
Why do you want Yukari to finger your butthole
It's hot to imagine her performing such a promiscuous task, wearing her typical expression of contempt and calling me a b***h while she blushes at how hard I am.
we ARE getting a remake, and yukari IS fingering the protag's butthole
Is that a major plotpoint? Does the MC work up the courage to fight Nyx because of Yukaris prostate massage
yes, that is exactly what happens, did you not play the game?
2>4>3>1>5
if you play p2, either play p1 or read the manga the the very least. EP's plot involves returning characters from 1
1-2 was good when I was young.
But now they look very dated. Story is good, but I don't want to play them myself. Just youtube them.
From all 3-5 I love only 3.
4-5 is a rich and successful child tier story. It's just not for me.
Why is Persona so much worse than SMT as a series? Specifically SMT Strange Journey
Nobody cares about SMT.
>Strange Journey
release date: October 8, 2009
I like both.
>SMT
Small Man Talking
Akihikos voice...not like this...
It wasn't Troy Baker?
Oh they changed everyone. I see.
Not to worry we can fix that shit thanks to modern technology https:/m.youtube.com/watch?v=L6L4Cd6V1ps
Best in the series are 2, P3F and P5R
I've been playing P3 as my first Persona game.
The combat's boring as hell and none of the girls appeal to me also femMC has the only design I like. Are the other games better in both or should I just drop the series?
Try 5 since it's a drastic overhaul of the franchise's mechanics and much closer to classic SMT gameplay.
Never played SMT before but, alright I'll give it a shot
I've heard that it has optional female protagonist and different music. What are the others changes?
adds femc route with new music and new social links with male party members plus a different sports team and hermit arcana.
removes 3d overworld but keeps 3d dark hour
allows you to directly control party members
includes a second velvet room attendant besides elizabeth.
allows you to save one more character that would otherwise die
P3P changes:
Removed all cutscenes (replaced them pictures of FES)
removed all of the overworld (replaced them with pictures of FES)
removed all traversal of the school (replaced it with pictures of FES)
removed traversal of the dorm (replaced with pictures of FES)
more floors to tartarus
removed The Answer (P3P doesn't have the full story)
adds in P4 combat which breaks the game's combat
adds in skill cards
adds in "new endings" (breaks several character arcs)
>more floors to tartarus
Ugh... that is a really bad change alright, by "P4 combat" you mean it gets easier because if yes then that's preferrable so I can get on with it faster
I guess I'll just watch The Answer on YT since I'm way too far in my playthrough to switch to a different version
NICE!!! Here's to hope it's in P3P as well
Still enjoyable though.
P3 is specifically designed around the tactics menu so by adding in P4's combat the enemy AI has no idea what to do do. You can also mod in direct control in FES. There's literally no reason to play portable at all
Yeah, maybe if I ever return to P3, I'll try FES but I'm not really interested in the combat, the bigger appeal lies in shorter Tartarus. I mean I'm already a hundred floors in and it seems like there's no end
So far, outside of The Answer, it doesn't seem like I'm missing much
you're basically missing the entire atmosphere and presentation that makes P3 great
In two years we're going to have the updated P3RE release with the answer and original portraits/ost mod anyway
The ost has some good tracks in it, portraits are hit or miss but what absolutely needs to be fixed is the voices especially Akihiko
Don't worry, most of them will have a port mod with some AI voices addendums too, we will probably even have "Stupid little homosexual cucksucker" as the voiceline for Yukari's rank 10 social link fade-to-black sex scene
Stop giving me hope, I've been dissapointed too many times already, I want it to be good but...
Is the 3D really that important?
Yes, portable strips out the entire mood and feeling of the game it's genuinely an awful experience compared to what you should be playing
Yes you b***h, it's that important. Maybe you should think before playing the stupid israeli version next time
Ignore all these morons.
You should play FES still but just because you can skip to The Answer at the main menu without going through the main story again.
Only enjoyable because you're getting droplets of what Persona 3 is
>portable
The combat isn't any better in any of the others.
5 has actual dungeons that aren't randomly generated, but you still have to do randomly generated dungeons sometimes anyway.
If P3 is best what is second best? I dislike P4 and P5 equally so I'll say P5 just cause the menus are cool and it's not yellow
>For each their own
I liked 4 the best although i started with 3 and consider it great too
5 is kinda okay for one or two playthrough
1 is decent but is barely different from other megaten
2 i didn't play because it seemed to be more of the same as 1
Didn't like any spinoffs
She doesn't look like Yukari at all, where's my true girl?. My love.... what are they doing to you?
I don't see the problem
>t. gaytlus dev
>people who played the original p3 on release are all 35+ like the cast
all you need to know about online opinions about 3. its all zoomers who played portable because they wanted to pretend to be an anime girl who gets fricked by all her male friends and literal jaded boomers.
FES
Not everyone self-inserts as a girl.
Or at least I don't.
FeMC is optional so I don't really see a problem.
I saw a romhack that brings back the old music so that's fine too
>removes 3d overworld
I kinda like it the way it is
>direct control
You couldn't control them directly? Sounds like a pain, as if combat wasn't annoying enough
>second velvet room attendant
I presume that's for feMC which reminds me.
Can you date Elizabeth? As in actually confess to her and not just take her to town?
If not, I'll probably achieve the only virgin playthrough of P3 in history
>Can you date Elizabeth? As in actually confess to her and not just take her to town?
She doesn't get a Social Link, but her final scene in her sidequest is probably the most implied sex P3 had, in FES at least, IDK about P3P
P3P is probably the absolute worst way to play 3
5 > 3 > 4
From Breaking Bad?
Why isn't she real bros
Why do you want to be a high-school kid?
How Persona 5 made me a christian
Be better.
I left for 5 minutes and the thread is full of P5gays
>Story/Characters
P3
>Music
P5
>Spin offs
P4- Actually no, P5 Strikers was sick, so P5.
This more or less. Story/Atmosphere goes to P3 and gameplay goes to P5. P4 is whatever.
The remake will have some good music in it atleast check it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtEBCWZFc0I&list=PLOJhmOVpuSjLtrgcJ0rA1LLZes2_g9jZq&index=23
I'm a harcore P3gay but P4 is the confiest shit I've ever played. P5 is garbage. Don't care about 1 and 2.
I just want /ss/ harem in persona 6
I like 1 the best and think it's worth playing. I do not like 2 but think there's intresting plot it's worth a playthrough. If you play 1 I recommend the psx release over the psp release.
>If you play 1 I recommend the psx release over the psp release.
Finally, someone who agrees with me. The PS1 port is incredibly flawed but I don't like a lot of the changes they made in the PSP port.
the psx ost mogs everything except persona 3
Hidehito Aoki's music is worth the whole fricking ride and most people honestly don't care enough to see the snow queen content. Also, the old 3d city maps are fricking based.
Soon you won't have to choose between the two.
>Twitter
P5
>Reddit
P4
>Ganker
P3
>Resetera
P3P
>P2
My Space
5>>>>>>2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4>3>>>>1
P5R>P2EP(PSP)>P4G(new port)>P4G(Vita)>P2EP(PS1)>P3FES>P5>P3P(PSP)>P4>P2IS(PS)>P3P(new port)>P3>P2IS(PSP)>P1(PS, not the localization)>P4DAN>P5T>PQ2>P3DiM>PQ>P5DiS>P1(PSP)
>no yukari bf to erp with
imagine
Will swimsuit for Yukari,Mitsuru and Fuuka get censored? Kishida has banned bikini from Japanese console games since July 8th, 2022.
took you long enough, you're losing your touch
Pic rel is how Swimsuit design for Yukari, Fuuka and Mitsuru changed in reload not to be problematic.(with symbolic color- Yukari:Pink, Mitsuru:Red, Fuuka:Teal genderless "swimsuit")
Moooods
4 Golden >>>>> Everything Else
Hoped that helped, Anon
Having played them all, they all suck compared to SMT, but 3 is the least worst (FES version).
4 is the best, but 3 has the most untapped potential.
I'll never understand the hard on Ganker has for p3
It's one of those "you had to be there" games.
1's cast has no right being this good.
P3P, don't play as FeMC unless you want to be in a non-canon 95% same story but your a perverted chick who is also a major shotacon unironically.