Hitman World of Assassination

Now that the dust has settled, was it better than Blood Money?

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    no not really but stockholm syndromegays will say it is
    it's good but not that good

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoyed WOA more than Blood Money, but it would have been nice to have stuff like shoving for more lulzy AI manipulation. Also weird they'd remove dual wielding.
    Regardless, the freelancer mode makes up for it all and more. Spent a good 100 hours fricking around in that mode.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah in terms of gameplay its the best stealth game ever made. Anyone who's actually explored it knows this, nothing even comes close. I've been playing Hitman since SA.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Depends how you define stealth. For me personally stealth means hiding in shadows ala thief / sc series.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Mechanically you are just evading cones of vision in any stealth game by timing your movements, and maybe manipulating AI. Hitman WoA has the most robust system for this and the best overall level design and interactivity. MGSV technically has better mechanics but the level design is shit and the game is unfinished.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I dont like puzzle games.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      everything is a puzzle if you abstract it hard enough

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Frick no.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Frick yes.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think it's bad, but it's more boring than anything. The open levels suck, the music is completely bland and forgettable except for one, and the art is extremely sterile. I don't like the control scheme either, despite how much better the game feels to play, because every single action has its one dedicated key instead of how it was handled in the earlier games in a much quicker and simpler method. Also the AI is shit.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >the AI is shit

      It’s the best AI in the series. I think you’re forgetting how paranoid and omniscient 2SA’s AI was, or how braindead BM’s AI was at points.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not going to listen to anyone call the AI in this game better while saying BM's is braindead when suspicious actions in BM, regardless of outfit, will elicit a response from the guards if warranted, while in 2016 onwards you're freely able to tamper with things in ludicrous manners as long as 47 is wearing the right outfit which is fricking moronic. In BM, 47 can't just steal tape recordings just because he's wearing a guard outfit because that makes sense, but in WoA he can openly poison people's drinks if he's wearing a chefs outfit and no one bats an eyelash. It's stupid.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          They balance that out by having enforcers that can see through disguises, and also having certain disguises be harder to get.

          Also, you’re forgetting that in BM, guards can’t see through disguises at all unless you perform an illegal action, and you can also trespass with no penalty as long as you’re not seen performing an illegal action.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >They balance that out by having enforcers that can see through disguises
            This only happens if 47 is standing right next to them and doesn't move, otherwise it's completely negligible because the awareness meter fills to slowly otherwise. He can walk or run past them and nothing happens.

            >you can trespass with no penalty as long as he doesn't get spotted
            Woah, no way.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >>you can trespass with no penalty as long as he doesn't get spotted

              No, you can be spotted trespassing without penalty due to a major oversight in the scoring system where being detected in your suit doesn’t count as a “cover blown”. It only counts against you if someone spots you shooting a gun or something to that effect

              Watch any speedrun of Blood Money and you’ll see this in action.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >He can walk or run past them and nothing happens.
              In my experience, you're usually in tighter spaces. It's true that enforcers won't notice you quickly from a distance, but having played the game for 150 hours, you're not at a distance the vast majority of the time. I also feel you're downplaying how quickly you get spotted by enforcers. They can do it near instantly when you're "right next to them" and decently quickly from close but not too close distances.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                IO’s placement of enforcers was clearly very well thought out.

                Most enforcers are placed along the most optimal/fast route for that disguise. An example of that is in Paris, where the guards on both stairwells to the auction floor are enforcers to the CICADA bodyguard disguise. Probably because IO knew that that was the fasted route to the auction floor once you take npcs out of the equation.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >IO’s placement of enforcers was clearly very well thought out.
                Yeah fricking right. I played the Paris Museum/Mansion level and there's a random enforcer sitting around in a common area for no fricking reason. to reiterate, this enforcer will somehow compromise 47 even if he's not trespassing and it wearing the default suit of the level, as a guest to the event.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          you didnt play the game

          https://i.imgur.com/4bfL3XE.jpeg

          Now that the dust has settled, was it better than Blood Money?

          both games are good even of blood money is better frick you for making a bait thread

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >you didn't play the game despite the fact that you listed very specific examples of things that happen across multiple games
            Classic moron argument.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >but in WoA he can openly poison people's drinks if he's wearing a chefs outfit and no one bats an eyelash. It's stupid.
          not to cherrypick, but in the christams mission in blood money, you can put aphrodisiac in the drink of one of the targets with dozens of people looking at you, including the bartender in your face

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I can't remember this specific event but whenever I personally tried poisoning food or drinks in Blood Money, 47's cover gets immediately blown if someone see's him doing it.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Poisoning food and drinks is mostly useless in BM because poison kills count as bodies found. Luckily WoA buffed poison so it’s actually useful.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, but that doesn't change what I said.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              you can trust me, anon, I played over 80 hours of BM in the past 2 months
              i really don't know why it is like that, maybe the aphrodisiac isn't seen as "hostile" by the AI, it's still dumb cuz to bystanders both should look like mysterious things you're adding to a drink, specially the bartender who stares at your soul when you do it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I found the AI was pretty decent in combat given they usually send spare guards to hit your flanks (if possible). They perhaps act a bit derpy when it comes to repeatedly killing or knocking people out around them, but nothing that was exempt from other games.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, the AI in WoA is really dangerous because of how frequently they flank, and the fact that their guns do insane damage (a shotgun wielding guard will 2 shot you). Really, the only way you can cheese them in combat is camping behind cover at a dead end and then shooting them as they approach you. And that requires you having enough ammo to kill the 100+ guards that will come your way as a result of that.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >hitman 2: SA
      >mediocre
      >codename 47
      >shit
      cute little shit opinion chart.
      did your favorite youtuber make it for you?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        you wont find an eceleb calling the WoA "mediocre"

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        47 feels like absolute fricking shit to play and for good reason.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Where's Absolution?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Not a hitman game. It's also dogshit but that isn't relevant.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think it's bad, but it's more boring than anything. The open levels suck, the music is completely bland and forgettable except for one, and the art is extremely sterile. I don't like the control scheme either, despite how much better the game feels to play, because every single action has its one dedicated key instead of how it was handled in the earlier games in a much quicker and simpler method. Also the AI is shit.

          Where is Hitman Go?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            hitman go was actually pretty fun

            >you didn't play the game despite the fact that you listed very specific examples of things that happen across multiple games
            Classic moron argument.

            well either you played on easy or diddnt play because you cannot poison food in front of people without getting caught

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              opps replied wrong

              >you didn't play the game despite the fact that you listed very specific examples of things that happen across multiple games
              Classic moron argument.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >you cannot poison food in front of people without getting caught
              NTA, but unless they changed it in a recent update, on normal dif at least, if you wear a chef or a waiter outfit you can poison in front of people and not get detected.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yes you can, moron. Read the rest of the post
                >as long as you're wearing the right outfit
                Do you seriously need me to make a fricking webm of 47 brazenly throwing rat poison into someone's drink while he's being watched and he doesn't get caught?

                Yes you can, moron. Read the rest of the post
                >as long as you're wearing the right outfit
                Do you seriously need me to make a fricking webm of 47 brazenly throwing rat poison into someone's drink while he's being watched and he doesn't get caught?

                damn i guess i never playes the game

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Yes you can, moron. Read the rest of the post
              >as long as you're wearing the right outfit
              Do you seriously need me to make a fricking webm of 47 brazenly throwing rat poison into someone's drink while he's being watched and he doesn't get caught?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >you cannot poison food in front of people without getting caught
              let me guess, wrong costume?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      moron

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Keep hitting that nostalgia bong. BM was good for it's time. But woa did everything it did, better.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >But woa did everything it did, better
        definitely not soundtrack nor athmosphere

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I played BM for the first time last year. Stop coping.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >i don't think it's bad
      >put the games in mediocre tier

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Mediocre does not mean bad, ESL.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      man contracts was so fricking nice especially easter eggs such as the ghost in the hotel

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    IoI needs to be executed for pulling all this ridiculous DLC shit you need to read a guide for as well as not transfering shit properly

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If you torrent it with the Peawiener client it absolutely is.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This. Needs to be heavily modded too but after that is a 10/10 game

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

    Blood Money was a good game but troons have put it on a pedestal and it doesn't live up to the hype.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just not a fan of those one-shot Elusive Targets, and if it wasn't online-always I'd probably like it more. Still decent though.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think its better than Blood Money as a Hitman game but WoA is really good especially with the Freelancer mode. Freelancer is something ive wanted in a hitman game for decades

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    woa has fun gameplay but its just too silly and 3 should have launched with freelancer

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    not in terms of atmosphere or level design

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >level design

      That’s literally WoA’s strongest suit though. It arguably has the best level design in the series.

      The “bad” levels in WoA are of the same quality as “okay” levels from the older games.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I disagree and would say that the sandbox levels are complete shit and the trilogy's best levels are the more compact one like Paris and Thailand. Ones like Italy are extremely overrated and half the level isn't ever worth interacting with.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Every map except for the train in the Carpathian Mountains is a sandbox map though. The only difference between each of them is the size and level of verticality.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Sandbox as in overtly wide and open. No one sane would call something like Las Vegas a sandbox level, every hitman game has 'free' levels. The wide cityscape ones are trash.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Sandboxes have nothing to do with size.

              They’re about giving the player freedom to do whatever the frick they want without restriction. Basically, if there’s no scripted linear setpieces, and there’s a focus on approaching things however you choose, then it’s a sandbox. This is why something like The Witcher 3 isn’t a sandbox despite having a massive open world.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >A sandbox game is a video game with a gameplay element that provides players a great degree of creativity to interact with, usually without any predetermined goal, or alternatively with a goal that the players set for themselves. Such games may lack any objective, and are sometimes referred to as non-games or software toys. More often, sandbox games result from these creative elements being incorporated into other genres and allowing for emergent gameplay. Sandbox games are often associated with an open world concept which gives the players freedom of movement and progression in the game's world. The term "sandbox" derives from the nature of a sandbox that lets people create nearly anything they want within it.

                If Hitman is a sandbox, so is Witcher.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Or music, story (which isn't really the main draw to the games either), and mission design.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    which is the best Hitman mission and why is it the beldingford manor?

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What difficulty for first playthrough? Should I just follow the "story" way to beat the levels, and explore weird ways later?

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly thinking about it poor Blood Money has been made obsolete.
    I love the game but it isnt the best of the franchise in ANY aspect.
    Best assassinations? Thats WOA
    Best levels? Thats WOA
    Best sandbox? Thats WOA
    Best OST? Thats Contracts
    Best athmosphere? Thats Contracts
    Best story? Not a strong point in Hitman, I think I enjoyed SA the most to be honest purely because of that ending cutscene.
    Hell, I even prefer some Contracts levels to Blood Money. Beldingford Manor mogs the frick out of anything in BM.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I’ll make some corrections to this list:

      >Best OST
      2SA
      >Best story
      Contracts because of the psychological horror framing device, with BM as a close second.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        SA's ost for the most part is just your bread n butter "epic sounding orchestra"
        i think it's great but contract's and bm's just feels more iconic and fitting

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You're basically correct. I play WoA for the gameplay and Contracts for the atmosphere. H2SA was never that good besides a couple of levels. BM was great for its time but feels redundant now.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        To BM’s credit, it was the template for WoA, and it also has some timeless missions like Curtains Down and A New Life. It’s also the only game in the series to have an upgrade system.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          blood money is just that perfect middle ground between WoA and Contracts

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        SA has the best music and atmosphere, but it also has the worst AI in the series.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >best soundtrack
    >anything but Blood Money
    Lmao

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >*ting ting ting!*
    I have an announcement to make

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      yes? I'm listening even though nobody else is

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        frick Providence! frick the Constant!
        ...and uh merry christmas

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          and a happy hanukkah to you too random drummer man

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The mechanics are basic. The game doesn't use sound as a stealth mechanic at all. why can't i fire my non silenced 12 guage during a loud race for example? and why do people get distracted by my coin in a large loud crowd? I hate that.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because the gameplay is built around the AI having consistent behaviours that can be replicated by the player and used to their advantage.

      It’s more of an AI manipulation focused stealth game.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >why can't i fire my non silenced 12 guage during a loud race for example?
      A loud race wouldn't drown out the sound of a fricking shotgun. Have you ever thought about that?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Except it would because they can easily go as high at 100 or even 120 or 40 decibels. While shotguns may be louder, they don't be so loud to make the sound easily discernable through the noise of the event.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    the final mission on the train ruined the entire trilogy.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    There's no sound masking to cover an assassination and there's no hostage taking. So it isn't better by a long shot.

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    There's zero difficulty progression in the game. Level 1 plays the same as level 20. At least in Blood Money the white house mission was harder than the rest.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >At least in Blood Money the white house mission was harder than the rest

      Most Hitman levels that try to be hard end up being shit because of bad design. The White House level suffers from this because its linear, has barely any kill options and has a forced chase sequence and forced boss fight.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >The White House level suffers from this because its linear, has barely any kill options and has a forced chase sequence and forced boss fight.

        nta and usualy i agree forced boss fights are shit in stealth games, but i actually liked this one. It doesnt force alert and you can find the guy and kill him without it beign a big shootout. Same with the hotel mission is 2:sa if you survive the begining you can get a disguise and sneak out. Thats why china is a shit level in WOA it force alerts at the end and you cant use the disguise system.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The White House forces an Alert too. The entire west wing is evacuated after Parchezzi sets off his bomb, which puts them on alert, risking any hidden bodies being found and also meaning that you can’t get SA if you kill the VP when he’s taking the dog for a walk.

          MGS and Tenchu are the only stealth games that do boss fights correctly by making them isolated incidents from the rest of the level.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Can't you put a bomb in the hallway then force the guy out of the oval office and kill him before he does anything?

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    by a fricking mile, jankness ruined the old Hitman games for me
    I have succeeded without a guide to knock out and kill all 10 agent in Berlin using a propane tank
    can't do that in BM or Abortion

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >no elevators
    >no metal detectors, have to be 'patted down' like a homosexual in the 50s.
    >same assets throughout the game despite levels taking place all over the world
    >same 2 english speaking voices for all npcs
    >No light switches
    >No dual-wielding
    yea i'm thinking nah.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget how 47 isn't even allowed to get frisked if he has illegal items on him. morons were so dumb that they constantly forgot to hide their items before-hand so the devs had to step in and "fix" the problem. Now the game actually blocks you from being able to have this happen and have the guards get alerted by this because it's obsessed with holding your hand in the dumbest ways possible. The game was made for giga casuals.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >no elevators
        >no metal detectors, have to be 'patted down' like a homosexual in the 50s.
        >same assets throughout the game despite levels taking place all over the world
        >same 2 english speaking voices for all npcs
        >No light switches
        >No dual-wielding
        yea i'm thinking nah.

        Also no keyhole peeking. It's trash.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This genuinely pisses me off so much.
        >Sir, I need to frisk you
        >Run away to the nearest corner, drop weapon
        >Run back
        >Sir, I need to frisk you

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >>same 2 english speaking voices for all npcs
      NPC's not speaking their native tongue is dumb.

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Come, girls, make BOOM BOOM with Charlie!

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Contracts>BM>WoA>SA>A>CN47

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    frick was blood money good.
    they should make a map pack DLC of it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >they should make a map pack DLC of it
      they'll probably just ruin it. besides, 'Another Life' is basically a remake of 'a new life'

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No but it's still good.

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Is 47 actually gay?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      volcel

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      i don't think he has an appetite for sex
      also ortmeyer probably made sure all clones are infertile

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Was he not going to get laid at the end of Blood Money?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        47 has no sexual feelings, he's a genetically engineered killing machine

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        oh he was searching for asia's finest delicacies?
        i thought he was just getting into sniper spot

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I have no idea, at first I was under the assumption that he was going into another assassination but he liked to talk about being "busy" between his missions and someone else mentioned it online so I could kind of see it. I figured it was something else, though.

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    of course not. consolefied and simplified

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    how is the contracts pc port?

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yea, save for the modern bs like always online.
    The level design and visuals are great and is a wet dream from the BM era.

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yes it was
    It is literally modern BM with qol features from absolution

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >absolution
      >qol
      >it's blood money but with a bunch of features removed
      lmao

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >fart
        Who's speaking here? Is somebody speaking?

  36. 1 week ago
    cansnonce

    BM is the third worst after C:47 and Absolution since it introduced so many fricking b***h emchanics
    >bro you're in disguise I can tell so you can't be here, can you be a good agent and just let me escort you back to the starting point so you can try again? Good agent, now you try sneaking in again!
    And of course: bro just lure the guard with shit AI, just do it, it's how you're supposed to play it, you have got infinite coins

    WOA isn't great, it's aberage at best like SA and Contracts but it at least fricking tried not ot make it b***h mode like in BM. People who say BM was their favorite really tell on themselves that needed built in b***h made easy mode to play

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >>bro you're in disguise I can tell so you can't be here, can you be a good agent and just let me escort you back to the starting point so you can try again? Good agent, now you try sneaking in again!
      what are you talking about
      >bro just lure the guard with shit AI, just do it, it's how you're supposed to play it, you have got infinite coins
      the coins are borderline useless on pro, i dont know about the lower difficulties cuz I played blood money after finishing C47 and SA, so I'm too good for that shit and will never bother with it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Terrible taste, holy fricking shit.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Worst post ITT

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's the worst piece of shit in all of video games and worthless zoomer homosexuals need to be skinned in the streets for making THIS BULLSHIT worthy of success.
    FRICK EVERY moron THAT PAID FOR THIS

    YOU ARE moronic FRICKING FILTH AND YOU HAVE RUINED VIDEO GAMES

    FRICK YOU

    FRICK ALWAYS ONLINE

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      peawiener 🙂

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

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