how come this image confuses and enrages so much the peecee gamer?
u jelly and mad about people owning their stuff?
how come this image confuses and enrages so much the peecee gamer? u jelly and mad about people owning their stuff?
how come this image confuses and enrages so much the peecee gamer?
u jelly and mad about people owning their stuff?
Steam as well, Black person
Steam will only ban you from playing online if you use cheats or scam people
Steam is not the only way to play games on PC. God why are console gays so dumb?
The consolebrain can't think outside the app store.
>Steam is not the only way to play games on PC.
Oh so you can purchase and own games for PC elsewhere? Please enlighten me
>he doesn't know about GOG
I'm aware
Physical software on consoles is the only way to own a game in 2024
Unless you can easily replicate, transfer and store the data on those discs, you don't own shit.
Just checked the appraisal value and I still own them.
Oh you're that moron again who instantly switches to "muh collection value" when someone points out how superior PCs are for data preservation.
I actually held firmly on value while you goalpost shifted to piracy and cracking because I pointed out how superior physical ownership was.
Not that anon, but no one mentioned piracy or cracking. A pc version is going to last and be played for years. A ps3 game dies on the ps3 unless people choose to play it on there or emulate it.
>Not that anon,
Oh sorry I was talking to that anon, not you. Didn't read the rest.
Yeah because you don't like hearing things that go against your narrative. Console warring is gay dude. I have a pc, a Nintendo Switch and a ps5. It's gay to die on that hill.
Congratulations or I'm sorry that happened
Nice twitter tier webm
I got it from Ganker because I'm a normie chad
Piracy and cracking are a objectively the best way to preserve media. You can't even easily backup your shitty discs lol.
Now you're goalpost shifting to "game preservation", which is funny because I also have digital games and pirate. But I would rather "preserve" OG hardware, physical software, and an era specific display than a bunch of worthless 1s and 0s that everyone has in infinite supply.
Once again, being able to do as you wish your data (e.g. read, execute, transfer, copy, backup, etc.) is what constitutes true ownership of that data. A console game disc is simply a medium for storing such data that provides a very limited set of the above actions. As such it offers a very limited mode of "ownership" of its contents to the user.
Meanwhile, with an .iso file for example you are able to do anything you wish, including storing it on any or as many storage devices as you need. This is why a digital file is superior to a DRM disc.
>Once again, being able to do as you wish your data (e.g. read, execute, transfer, copy, backup, etc.) is what constitutes true ownership of that data
I disagree
Enjoy "owning" your games when disc rot sets in or the console eventually reaches its end of life and existing units stop working. Meanwhile PC games still will be playable decades from now
>two more decades
>trust the plan
I will, I just finished replaying a PS3 game that's 15 years old just fine physical. Keep seething digital gay. Your console digital library are rentals. The disc rot is a huge forced buzzword, is it something from Philipines ESL that say it because they can't get physical games or something lol?
Wow! So cool, anon!
My experience: I have a digital copy of the original Tomb Raider for DOS, without DRM. I have access to the data because it's not encrypted in a piece of plastic like your PS3 game. I then installed Open Lara on a flash drive, put the data from my Tomb Raider for DOS there, and now I can play my Tomb Raider in a customized version for a Playstation Classic.
If I'd had a Tomb Raider Remastered cartridge for my Nintendo Switch, I wouldn't have been able to do any of this. It seems that having games encrypted in pieces of plastic that can only be read in black boxes whose control is forbidden by the corporation that "sold" you the hardware isn't so good in some cases, is it?
Assuming Windows PC is still around in it's current form decades from now. Windows is the gold standard of backwards compatibility and still can't run a text file from a 16 bit OS on modern systems without emulation. Who knows what they'll care about 30 years from now especially if their aspirations of a walled garden/streamed OS come true. Or if x86 ever gets deprecated over ARM or a new framework.
>muh linux
Still lots of games are Windows only or run on Linux with glaring issues.
That doesn't really matter. There will always be a way to emulate on PC even if it can't be ran natively.
He's talking about the only way you can actually own a game in 2024.
Not that anon, but you've been able to do that for years. Once a game gets removed from steam if you already own it's still your. But sometimes others store fronts like gog. Recently Alpha protocol got re-released on there after being removed from steam.
Better yet, there are ways to own games on PC without even purchasing them. Mindblowing, right?
People need to learn that these threads are nothing more than console bros wanking each off over having discs. It's neat and I still have my old collection, but it's stupid to pretend that my 15+ year old steam library isn't going to last.
Your steam library lasts as long as Gaben does.
Owning games > not owning games. Nobody needs to jerk themselves off for this to be true. Just understand your place in the hobby hierarchy
Idorts
Tendies
Xbots
PC vegans
Snoys
Depending on the year snoys and PC vegans swap places
Xbots haven't owned their games since this gen as Xbone Series Sex requires an online check in for the console to not be a brick
They removed that years ago lol
No
>Disclamer: Xbox One and Series X|S consoles require an internet connection to set up/activate the system for the first time. An active Microsoft account is also required to play.
You're right, my bad. I was thinking of that policy they were trying to do with used discs not working on other systems.
PC >>> Idorts > lmao > consoleplebs
All anyone needs is a PC if they aren't moronic. Only fanboys argue otherwise.
PC gamers don't get access to exclusives like Mario Wonder and Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom. AKA the highest rated games of the generation.
Fricking tendies think everyone is a pedophile manchild like them. NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY PRINCESS PIKU PAKU TWIST, homosexual.
They do
>muh borken emualtors that only get 10 fps
Are you really that deluded? Not only are you a child raping homosexual, but people have been playing TotK at 8K60.
>Only fanboys argue otherwise
Thank you for so readily proving that correct.
I don’t know how someone could play tears of the kingdom not on pc. Stable frame rate is king.
It truly is a must play game. Another nintendo masterpiece. Glad you enjoyed it.
Who's gonna tell him
Sucks to play on Switch, I guess.
Glad you enjoyed yet another Nintendo masterpiece
>all that crap on the screen ruining the kino
>runs like aids too
...you don't know what an overlay is?
I can't get achievement pop-ups to show up on steam anymore. No idea why. Overlay is on.
60fps is better than what it does on native hardware. And the overlay is there to show it running at that while my GPU is at 70w and my CPU is at 59w. My PC doesn't even have to try.
hahahaha, no, anon, he thinks that the overlay is like a baked-in subtitle that you can't disable. because that's what it would be like on his console
Yeah nsmb is an ugly game.
I disagree.
you can rip the steam dependency from a game if you need to.
cant do that on a console.
not to mention offline mode.
>he doesnt know
cute
You absolute slave, can you not perceive an independency from service providers in order to play games?
Name one instance where steam has ever removed a bought game from anyone's library. Even if steam did go full evil like sony or nintendo, you can easily just pirate everything back thanks to the open nature of pc.
PC absolutely shits all over consoles in every single way and the only people who argue otherwise are the ones too stupid to be able to use them.
The only way you get banned from Steam is if you commit literal illegal shit.
I can scream Black person Black person Black person all I want and all Valve will do is stop me from posting in their forums.
that does not invalidate my point pckek
you don't need those services, your console can be completely offline and it will run the game from the disc just fine
kys mutt
just don't say nigero
say watashitachi ikanakereba narimasen
it's as shrimple as that
Jeez, you guys are so racist that you've found ways to be racist without making people think your racist. Your still racist though.
My steam name has had Niigero for years and I'm just fine.
the image that broke Ganker
But I don't say the n-word. I say things like "suck it" and "bitch" and still get banned. I detest bad arguments.
It's not a bad argument. If policy says don't be a c**t then don't be a c**t, it doesn't have to be Black person.
I'm sorry that you grew up sheltered
>post 'GG'
>people play 'HEY HE'S TEAMING UP WITH HIS FRIENDS TO SPELL N-I-GG-E-R'
>get reported
>MONEY STOLEN
But I don't say the Black person word outside of here, Black person.
as much as I don’t think you should get banned for saying Black person, this has nothing to do with physical media. you have to do something seriously fricked up for them to ban your console and not your account
Why add the gamepass one? That just makes you look moronic
You will own nothing.
Gamepass is literally just a renting service. You pay 10 bucks a month to rent a bunch of games. That's it. It's modern day blockbuster / Hollywood video.
Trying to treat it as anything else or as some CRIME is just fricking stupid,
>i will not cheat online or say Black person Black person Black person
is it really that difficult?
>toxic when losing and tilting in comp games
deserved bans
Most people in console only play single-players and never pay for online play.
That is a lie. The only PS5 game to move big units is helldivers 2. And even that moved more on pc.
Stupid dumb ESL scum.
now show the reason for why.
Okay: because Steamtards own nothing.
All i could find is because it was an online only game with DRM, so they just pulled it completely.
You should be allowed to access the game's data even if you can't play it. At least that would provide an opportunity for someone to reverse-engineer the game to allow custom servers or something.
>At least that would provide an opportunity for someone to reverse-engineer the game to allow custom servers or something.
for an always online DRM ? depend on how it is, if it's like Full spectrum warrior and it's just a text file telling the game to connect to a dead server then you can switch it to your locale IP and run the game without issues, but if it's like Ubishit then it's going to be troublesome.
also square enix updated that game and released it without DRM.
they did it because it was a multiplayer game that had its servers shut down.
Weird because I have a shitload of old dead games that are literally unplayable on my account.
That's what everyone has always said. I still have fable 3, deadpool, and original dragon quest 11 release on my account even though those were delisted. The only people who claim other wise are the hardcore console warriors.
Fable 3 isn't playable anymore? I thought that was a singleplayer game.
It works just fine. You can still even play online. They just delisted the game a while ago from steam
Oh, see Nosgoth is a multiplayer pvp thing and the servers just don't exist anymore so its quite literally not playable.
????
Anon these people just need reasons to justify why their consoles are better. No one here cares about what has been removed and what hasn't
It was gone for a week before being re-added, because some Pajeet fricked up the depot for it when they were adjusting the entries for when Nightdive obtained the publishing rights.
They went and updated it to the Gold edition while they were at it at least, which GOG had for ages.
Reminder that this was defended in the past.
Reminder that Valve actually changed the Family Sharing mechanic and you *can* have multiple accounts active within the same shared library instance concurrently now...
Valve actually improved this recently.
Still need to buy multiple copies for multiplayer, but sharing singleplayer games is great now.
I've never seen someone so clueless about the npc meme.
Some people just use it as a replacement of "tribe I don't like".
>Count of Without Patch/DL
>Yes
>No
>Database of 500 titles
>Includes PS2 games
These disingenuous fricks are having a laugh.
Oh yeah, they work offline, except you don't get the patches that are necessary to play the game properly lmao
Incorrect.
Yeah, insignificant, like being able to play Cave Story with the original fricking OST and not some remixed slop. It's just an insignificant minor, uhh, THING, nothing to worry about :^)
>Cave Story
That's your big example, an old game that's been ported to everything multiple times? lmao
The shills are going all out today, huh
Cave Story is still one of the best games natively available on the Switch. They ported it to everything, yet, they managed to frick it up on the Switch.
The fact that they didn't even bother to release such a simple game properly on a cart tells you everything there is to know about the absolute state of """""owning""""" your physical games in 2k24.
Your autistic qualm is irrelevant and only reflects the incompetence of the publisher, not the media it was released on. The statistic is accurate in that the game is still playable from start to finish without gamebreaking glitches.
bro I don’t know how to tell you this but anything higher than 0.1% is too much
I agree that 0% ownership on PC storefronts is unacceptable.
I mean that statistic implies all games have equal value (they don’t) and that the practice is okay as long as at least 50% of games can be played (it isn’t)
Wow that's crazy, but 100% of my Steam games are playable offline
Can you install all of them completely offline on a freshly installed Windows machine that's never been connected to the internet? See, you don't own them.
yes
You only own games which are explicitly drm free on steam? Kind of impossible unless you normally pirate.
You can just download a steam emulator to run the games. You can even uninstall steam itself as long as you the emulator. Unfortauntly you live in a country where the average IQ is 85 so you won't be able to understand any of this.
https://steam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
>4 whole games
Woooaahhh
Why would I ever need to? Do you know how rare it is for me to want to install a game when my internet is down? I can't even remember the last time my internet went down, and if it does, I've got plenty of shit installed already. A good portion of which has no ties to any distribution platform
>censors your game
>removes your other game
>bans you are account
Nothing personnel, kid :^)
>revert update
>never happened but I have no problem stealing if it does happen
>not an issue because I don't use steam as a social media platform
Can you revert updates or run unauthorised copies on your PS5? Hard mode: can you do that without limiting it's online functionality?
Zamn!? Patches? DLC?! Every game pre PS3/Xbox360 era didn't have patches. 30 years of gaming just lost. ZAMN! PATCHES!! I need to CONSUME DIGITALLY RIGHT NOW!! LOSING MY MIND WITHOUT A NOTIFICATION FOR A PATCH INSTALLATION IN MARIO 3!
To fully grasp this thread the mentally ill zoomers purport that owning nothing is preferable than playing an unpatched game.
lol
The nonwhites are really upset about something today, they're shitting up the whole internet in full force
It's Tuesday so the steam servers will be going down for maintenance soon.
Not even trying to be mean here, but it's usually brown console warring morons that shit up threads.
The brown countries evidently prefer PC, though. Plus, this is a brown board.
I wish. You can't go to thread without console warring homosexuals ruining anything. I live in south white area texas and most people here outside of older gays with ps4s tend to pc game or just play on switch.
>You can't go to thread
You type like you're brown.
Lol one mistake makes me brown? I feel bad for anyone who takes this shithole seriously. I'm just working and posting on here on the side. My bad.
It is your bad, for being brown.
In Arabic countries you cant play videogames in Ramadan
Do they lock down the consoles with a shut down code?
So not only you need to stay thirsty and hungry all day, you can't even play some vidya to take your mind off it? What a moronic religion.
As long as I have a few ssd's to move games to and from as I want to play them I'll be golden. I mean sure if I want to play a game online I have to buy it but it's useless without online connectivity so frick it.
>new schizo thread with OPs site
>decide to check it out
>the numbers are based on 20 (twenty) PC titles
Lmao
These homosexuals claim you can play most of these games without downloading anything, yet I can't play my copy of gravity rush remastered or The last guardian without it starting a download.
Start the game while you're not connected to the internet, moron. That's what their testing is for, determining if these games are still playable whenever PSN is no longer around.
The last guardian refuses. It shows a crossed out disc. Gravity rush remastered wants a quick download before starting though.
Putting a game on a hard drive is forever, and so far steam has let you keep any game that you've bought. I can't even download my old games on my 3ds and vita. The ps3 and 360 are on the way out too.
Not that anon but you're a moron. Delete the game from your hard drive. Disconnect the Playstation 4 or 5 from the Internet, insert the disc. Voila, it works. On Xbox, good luck lmfao.
>Putting a game on a hard drive is forever
No, its only as long as that HDD works. Now putting the installer on a HDD that is backed up? Closer.
It's a known thing that playing TLG unpatched is the only way to play it at 60fps on PS5. It's well-documented so you're doing something wrong. You're probably trying to play it with an active internet connection.
>We are now to the point where playing a game without an internet connection is better than playing it with one
I want off Mr. clown world's wild ride.
It's like that with some steam releases where the update borks the game on PC as well.
Paradox regularly pushes updates that break previous saves and so offers a dozen plus previous updates that you can revert to freely within Steam. Witcher 3 and RE2/3 also forced dx12/RTX updates that killed performance even with the new stuff disabled and only after getting review bombed offered the ability to revert patches. Skyrim modding is an entire decade plus of modders complaining about patches mods for negligible reasons like Bethesda updating credit font size or adding chinese sign language support.
I don't know dude. I was given a free upgrade with resident evil and the witcher 3. Those that complain are always a minority.
That anon is a moronic zoomer and they are the people who need Readme on how to Extra RAR and ZIP files to play emulators on PC. Everyone knows how things work except zoomers. A digital game requires double the free space to extract the files, for example, then it erases the compressed download. And yeah, The Last Guardian runs at 60FPS on an unpatched disc on PS5.
I'm probably older than you. Screw me for having a collection. I switched to pc gaming about half way through the generation and don't regret it. I was given a PS5 and it sits there because there's not much to do on it.
I'm surprised you figured out how to turn either your PS5 or PC on.
Get banned on Steam?
>still access you games
Get banned on a digital only console?
>access to the digital services are restricted 🙂
PC vegans will never own video game software. And they are happier this way. Just ask them. They'll brag about it.
>ESL is a consolewar homosexual
every time
Not that anon but thanks, see you in the next Bloodborne PC portbegging thread or PC tribal warrior killing consoles thread.
>not that anon, just another ESL consolewarrior
kek
why would the people that can burn discs with completely patched and cracked versions of a game be mad about owning stuff?
>u jelly and mad about people owning their stuff?
Huh?
What will you do when physical games are no longer an option, anon?
Probably pirate or buy digital like I already do in addition to owning physical. You seem easily confused about mundane things.
I bought a physical game from BestBuy last week btw.
I live a few blocks away from a bestbuy and they don't even carry movies anymore. They have more rows of switch games than both xbone and playstation combined.
People have no idea what a revolution digital games are.
One example I like to give is how Nintendo controlled the market through anti-competitive pressures. Because it controlled the production of physical media (which, unlike digital media, needs huge corporations behind it and a whole production/transportation/storage chain), it could do things like pressure stores not to put out unlicensed games, which were totally legal. If stores dared to defy Nintendo, the japanese wouldn't send the cartridges most desired by consumers to those stores.
Let's not even get into how Nintendo/Sega and others monopolized the production of cartridges, leaving the developers in their hands, which was one of the reasons why Square bet all its chips on the PSX and left Nintendo without the most desired games of the time, it was pure revenge.
But that's all in the past. Now you can replicate game bits without leaving home. Just avoid games with DRM and you'll be in control.
Of course, none of this applies to console users, as they don't own the hardware, which is nothing more than a machine that decrypts pieces of plastic.
Even if the game is still "playable" on disc you're still missing out on the inevitable day 1 patches that fix performance issues, bugs, etc that they were too lazy to fix pre-print. The whole system is designed around day 1 patches now.
>u jelly and mad about people owning their stuff?
If I burned my games to a CD, it's a fact of life that I own that game more than you own yours. Your console can be remotely bricked at any time for any reason.
>"own" console game
>not allowed to modify it, or make backup copies, or even play it on competitor's hardware
>it's locked to that one console forever, unless the company is generous enough to release a full priced port
>"pirate" digital game
>none of the above
Interesting. Looks like I'll continue doing both options.
most games sales are physical as well. the industry wants everyone to go full digital since it's easier for them and more money too since digital is designed for ripping you off selling decade old games for the same price as when they first came out, so they do shit like include buying your monthly subscription to have access to online as part of digital sales to try and trick you into thinking everything is already digital so you should be too.
Ok now show the graphic for AAA games only
Feel free to move that goalpost if you can lift it
>top left
>get console repaired, lose ability to access games on that machine permanently
Kek what the frick
Yeah, that's why digital only on consoles is a mental illness. They deserve having their money stolen.
I wouldn’t mind living in a pod, and maybe bugs could be tasty. Just saying mr federal government agencies reading this, I’m all for being a goycattle so long as I’m comfy and cared for.
If you ever ate Nerds candy, you ate bugs.
Cool. There’s one bug snack I like. Thank you mister Fed.
The dye called carmine is dried, crushed bug eggs. You probably ate a lot of them.
You have 3 choices.
>a. GOG
>b. piracy
>c. You don't own nothin, goyim.
Both a and b are mutually exclusive from c, though not from each other.
Is OP physical-schizo? I remember reading threads like this one from a few months ago, even the same moronic, illiterate takes on emulation and console exclusives are here.
can't even imagine caring about any of this shit. i just pirate the games and buy digital if they're good. the fact that i can download a copy of the game whenever i want, wherever I want and use it makes owning physical copies pointless except for reselling used discs. your ideas about ownership are moronic. nobody can take anything i care about off the internet
>but the valve will just delete all your vidyas one day for no reason
Delusional
I have 1000 games. Been collecting for ~9 years. Recently lost my job and started selling crap i would never play or just picked up due to it being scarce or cheap, like $2 pawn shop cheap. Sold 50 items so far and im at over $2,000. Feels good, should float me a few months. Still got 2 stacks as big as me to list. These are all games i would not miss. I wouldnt list any of my real treasures. But yeah man, when in a tight spot you can milk that horde for some cash. Id never thought id have to sell some games in the first place but im glad they are there. Id have to sell my steam account for pennies on the dollar, its not something i even consider since it may as well be the change i can scrounge under the couch cheap. No one wants to buy a filler list of humble bundle digital games.
>confuses and enrages so much the peecee gamer
Seeing your english skills I'm not sure I trust you to discern human emotions.
All console war threads would disappear overnight if turd worlders were rangebanned
I'm starting to think you're right.
>how come this image confuses and enrages so much the peecee gamer?
more like they cannot ban my account because they don't even know i exist. that's the reality for those of us who don't have schizophrenia. nobody is thinking about you. gabe newell is not spam refreshing your page to see how many hours you played this week. nobody cares
It's a problem that grows from here on console. Microsoft stopped requiring games be playable from the disc once file size reached 50GB because that's the largest Blu-ray it supports. Sony also drops it's requirements once file size reached 100GB, but that's obviously just rarer for the moment. The only thing that might save physical actually working out of the box going forward is the fact that as an owner of Blu-ray, Sony has an incentive to push the format and require publishers to keep buying discs. Eventually the cost of printing and shipping discs will outweigh the sales gain, and publishers will drop it of their own volition.