How is support for the dualsense on PC? Is it better than the DS4?
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How is support for the dualsense on PC? Is it better than the DS4?
How is support for the dualsense on PC? Is it better than the DS4?
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>symmetrical controller
Disgusting
It's superior and I can't be convinced otherwise. There is nothing weirder to me than holding the controller asymmetrically, which if you use an asymmetric controller you do. For 2D games, the dpad and buttons are your primary inputs; for 3D, the sticks. If the controller is asymmetric, then you're pretty much always holding the controller with your hands staggered. I don't get how you people find it comfortable.
Ive used xbone and switch pro controllers forever. got a PS5 controller and it's just hands down the best, but man the first few days I couldnt hold onto the sticks at all. Fingers slept off constantly.
Yet it felt right. I was back.
It depends on the game and control scheme. A lot of 6th gen games work fine on symmetrical, bunch of 7th gen stuff too, anything menu based is alright. So long as you can put up with odd thumb placement.
Once control schemes started to evolve in the 7th gen and developers wanted to use bumpers & triggers more over face buttons it became a tougher sell. It's not as ergonomic to be touching the sticks down low while using bumpers or triggers since you'll always have your left thumb on the stick.
I prefer asymmetrical, it works really well in some games, XIV's control scheme despite being designed for a Sony console works better on asym, it's strange but it's because of holding and needing to use the dpad while using the sticks.
Not shitting on symm, I used it for years, was forced to use it for most of the 6th & 7th gen, 7th gen adapters for other controllers to PS3 were shit and decent adapters didn't start shipping until halfway through the 8th gen and really good ones until recently.
If I were to shit on anything, I'd shit on Sony, Nintendo & MS for using different standards and not allowing wireless pairing & rebinding between consoles, that's it, also for not having anything even remotely to compete with Valve's steaminput layer.
Different strokes for different folks innit, everyone plays different games and some have gay hands.
It's pretty much the same besides the fact that a few games actually support the adaptive triggers natively.
>It's pretty much the same
So I can't use it wirelessly, have to install a homebrew driver that some random redditor made, and it poops out half of the time?
Steaminput + ds4windows covers pretty much everything. Only a handful of games (death stranding/returnal) support the extra features
This has never happened to me.
But can I use it wirelessly?
Why not?
Figure Sony wrote the drivers and didn't implement it to make the PC experience lackluster compared to PS5, or for all we know there's some weird windows limitation.
Nope, limitations are the same on Linux and Android too.
I meant Nixxes updates their shit while stuff like Death Stranding and FFVII Remake will stay USB only for trigger haptics.
Whoops meant for
you can use it wirelessly if you don't care about the adaptive triggers.
dualsense features don't work wirelessly
Yea they do. I bought a Bluetooth adapter for my PC and get adaptive triggers, rumble and gyro. It's fully functional. There's also an app that makes the ds5 think it's an Xbox controller if you aren't using steam. Also allows you to customize the led on the controller.
What adapter did you get?
In my experience it's better to have Bluetooth native to your motherboard than use an adapter. I'd get cutouts from the adapter pretty regularly, whereas after getting a motherboard with Bluetooth onboard it only ever stopped responding when the battery died. It charges slow as frick from my PC cable though, so I rarely use it wirelessly.
Yeah the range on my old adapter was ass. My newest motherboard has an external antenna and never cuts out.
I've used both, I live in a house with brick walls so things are rough.
They can both be as good as each other but adapters and extension cables/hubs are playing with fire. Same as charging through USB, need a good cable, get it on the right port and it'll do well.
Same bullshit as the 2nd gen xbox adapters (first xbox one, not the 360/smoladapter), use a wrong cable, place it in a hub and you'll have issues.
seconding this anon
I'm the anon you seconded. It works in Spiderman and Horizon Forbidden West over Bluetooth. Seems to be a new thing for new games and games that were updated for it.
Most of the modern releases have most of the features through bluetooth. I'm guessing felt like the controller wasn't going to move consoles. Helldivers for example has the triggers and gyro work through bluetooth.
Sorry was playing games
Let me look for the box
Frick can't find the box. It was some no brand adapter from Amazon, nothing special. Paid like <10$ for it and it works great. Make sure it's compatible with controllers cause some aren't. Or it needs like 5.0ghz or something like that. A quick search on Google will tell you what to look for.
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they do now, played spider-man on my dualsense via bt. when some games don’t support it or you play outside of stream, there’s D4S Windows(something like that) software for that
Holy shit it does work in spider-man wirelessly. That must be new. Death Stranding Definitive Edition still doesn't.
Probably Nixxes ports vs in-house ports.
lol
they sorta do. sony games support the features but not all (like speaker audio requires usb). apps like dualsensex can make the features work wirelessly but its paid software.
>dualsen sex
>paid
Paying for sex is illegal
>buying DSX
>buying an update for DSX to include dualsense support
DS4W is free, more stable, and you really don't need custom haptics.
>can't use it wirelessly, have to install a homebrew driver that some random redditor made, and it poops out half of the time?
How long ago did you try the DS4 on PC? I used one for like 6 years with none of these issues. I'm using a dualsense now and I have none of those either.
Almost a decade ago. I was out of PC gaming for a long time.
Yeah ever since Far Cry 4 dualshocks have been natively supported by most major games.
It's fine. I use ds4windows as I have paddles so its always plugged in.
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Controller:DualSense
it has official drivers and some games support haptics and adaptive triggers wirelessly but you'll have to check.
Much, much, much better than ds4.
It just werkz
I've only had to install DS4Windows to get it working properly with a few Japanese games that have absolute dogshit ports (Dynasty Warriors, Way of the Samurai, etc.)
People insisting it doesn't have support are Xbox propaganda officers, there's been official PC drivers for it for a long time.
Depends on the game, but it should be fine most of the time. Some games might still read it as an Xbox controller though.
Microsoft has unfortunately paid off most devs to treat any controller inputs in PC games as coming from Xbox controllers, meaning your on-screen prompts will all be wrong and you can't use the gyroscope without SteamInput.
>Is it better than the DS4?
snoy's last great controller was the DS3, period.
>How is support for the dualsense on PC?
fine. snoy even offers a firmware updater for it. i still use third party stuff to turn off the stupid led.
Why would you use the ds5? Adaptive triggers are fricking stupid and will never be adapted to PC on a wide scale.
A non-trivial number of games support adaptive triggers and HD rumble. It’s the best PC controller.
Yeah I couldn't go back and I prefer the Xbox layout. The rumble in games that support it put joycons to shame.
Is it possible for a non-PS5 game to have controls designed for the dualsense?
You can apparently use profiles or something in dualsensex for non-PS5 games but it's kinda tacked on. It does work to simulate the click at the bottom of gamecube triggers for dolphin though.
I use Dual Sense constantly on my computer. If you want haptics and adaptive trigger features you need to be wired in and have a game that supports them. They also connect very easily via bluetooth. I sometimes have to use rewasd to turn it into an xinput controller but that's pretty rare. Rewasd also has an option for using it as a "physical dualsense" through bluetooth which i'm assuming gives you haptics and adaptive triggers wirelessly but I haven't tried it
>Is it better than the DS4?
No, the battery life on it sucks.
Played the Dead Space 2023 remake with this controller on PC with the haptics and it was awesome.
Every sound is translated into a vibration through the controller, the ship sounds, the breathing Issac makes, voices, necromorphs, the GUNS.
10/10 would recommend.
Plug and play through steam input. Outside of that and for piracy I would recommend dsadvance or just pay for dsx.
>Is it better than the DS4?
No, the black faceplate portion can break if you slam your controller on the table too hard in an autistic fit of rage.