Roxas' segment drags a bit but that end shot is worth it. I do think it probably could have been cut down though, like the day you waste doing nothingburger stuff like watching the train.
Me on the first game, that Island was taking so long that I gave up
The hardest part is falling off. Otherwise, light jump and attack in twos or threes, anticipate when he does his curled up kick attack and immediately move to the side. That's it.
Dakr riku is the hardest fight and it's not even close
Dark Riku is piss easy, I beat him on my first try. Dragon Maleficent was the hardest fight, she took me hours.
t. expert, picked sword, dropped shield, slowest exp curve)
Even discounting the postgame stuff or the extra fights in the Arena I died way more to early game bosses like Cerberus than Dark Riku personally, on Proud difficulty
I should get back to RECoM one of these days, I started it up since I played the original back in the day but got distracted early on
Problem with the post game fights is that you’re probably also getting most spells, abilities, and maybe even ultima weapons. The second you get upgraded aero and an ability that has invincibility frames the super bosses can’t do jackshit to you
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he does the kick move after every 4 hits on him. just run to the side when he does it. the amount of hits decreases with his HP though so watch out
Basically you need to figure out how many hits it takes until he does the counter attack. When he gets to low health he does it more often.
Don't forget to try the 3 v 1 fight. :^)
the strat that works best for me is target wakka so he cant pester you from afar, then whip moron while dodging tidus attacks and then finally Tidus. you can probably swap whip moron and tidus order but whip moron left unchecked can cause trouble while tidus is easy to account for by moving
Selphie's attacks are the hardest to read for me, must be because for the heck of it I spent some time parry grinding Tidus and was determined to beat Wakka purely by hitting his balls just for the fun of it ages ago.
>Im super sad that the rereleases dont have the german voice acting for KH1 and KH2
There's a mod for this and the kh patcher just got updated yesterday for the steam release.
Losing against Riku as many times as possible on the island makes winning against him in Hollow Bastion more kino and gives it the overcoming your shounen rival flair.
>Doesn't appreciate the kino of teaming up with your best friend who risked his life for yours after you finally defeated him and reconciled over your rivalry.
II just takes everything 1 built further.
>vgcats
god damn im old. yet i was excited for the stream release of KH even though i bought the collection on ps4 when it was originally released.
man, i have brain damage...
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You're not the only one.
I am happy about steam releases of games I liked since it means new threads pop up where I can talk about the game and see how othet anons are enjoying it.
>One of the few times VGCats was actually funny and not reliant on blatant gore and shock value tier edgy humor to be "funny"
It's a shame Scott Ramsoomair couldn't keep up with drawing furry porn on Patreon to pay his bills and DELETED EVERYTHING as a result because say what you want about the writing of VGCats, but when Scott cooked, he fricking COOKED especially with the art.
Ah yes, because Reaction Commands were such a better compromise.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
More gameplay options are in fact better.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Reaction Commands >gameplay options
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yep.
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Anonymous
You could call them a mixed bag but on the whole, reaction commands were a net positive
You had the boring ones where it was essentially just waiting until the enemy did something (Cyclone, the Neoshadow one, Warp Shot and so on) but you had the more engaging ones that rewarded good plays (blocking a Samurai gives you a chance to use The End and clean the surrounding area, landing a finisher on Berserkers let you wield their weapon and use a great CC option, guarding Large Bodies gives you a free hit beyond hitting them with magic or from behind, etc)
Kh2 is the kino when the rivals team up. >fight armored xemnas with just Riku. >two of Xemnas' battle quotes are >"Sora... Riku... there is falsehood within your hearts... Do you dare deny it?" >"Sora... are you certain you can trust Riku?" >"Riku... are you sure you're not jealous of Sora?" >xemnas tries to break their teamwork by trying to make them doubt eachother. >Sora and Riku or so in synch that neither of them nor the game itself even aknowledges it to the point that it probably doesn't even register to either of them or even (you) the player in the heat of the moment.
That ludonarrative resonance was throughly kino
Also, I like doing a challenge run where I’m overlevelled for every major encounter. I’ve found that you need to find optimal farming spots in other worlds too if you don’t want your EXP gains to level out by the time you’re a few worlds in.
The challenge came from making sure I stayed overlevelled. If you hit the 20s in Destiny Islands, things start to level out and balance themselves once you hit Agrabah.
It forced me to learn what the most optimal early and mid game farming spots were.
Pro-Tip: The Treetops area in Deep Jungle and the Black Fungus spawn in Agrabah are the two best early-mid game farming spots. Also, once you do the Pegasus Cup Time Trial, you can farm Squall and Yuffie as you head into the late game.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Like I said... boring
Just fricking play the game don't farm what is this it ain't stardew valley
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>being overlevelled is a challenge now
what?
do a level 1 run instead
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
literally not a challenge in any way other than combatting boredom. >I had to learn optimal farming strategies
or else what? face longer farming times? youre pissing away 4 hours on Destiny Island, you dont have to pretend your time is now magically more valuable
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ulillillia........i kneel
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ulillillia........i kneel
surprised he can stay on destiny island that long, with all the blue water around
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is the most stupid thing I've ever heard of. Is the optimal play to have adventure start at night and then just uber grind all early grind or something?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>moronic kid plays game >too moronic to defeat boss >farms EXP until boss is easy >continues game without having any skills
This is you, except you're proud of it.
2 weeks ago
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Frick everyone else's shit, that's cool in an autistic kind of way and I respect that.
>thankfully you dont get jack shit for beating him
You can farm potions by beating him repeatedly, you can then sell them in Traverse Town for a lot of easy Munny.
Also, I like to farm Tech Points from Tidus so my level is in the 20s when I hit Traverse Town.
There is no "challenge" in your challenge run. It is the literal opposite of challenge. It's a moron run for morons who are too bad at games to play them normally, let alone actual challenge runs.
The sooner you stop deluding yourself into thinking you're doing anything other than wasting your life away playing games the way a small toddler would play them, the sooner you might be able to stop being an actual moron.
>Also, I like to farm Tech Points from Tidus so my level is in the 20s when I hit Traverse Town.
Based and techpilled. It's the fasted EXP gain until, like, Halloween Town, too.
>jump >1-2-3 combo halfway off the ground >land >1 hit >jump left or right away from the getup attack >rinse and repeat
blocked hits don't count towards when he will do the get up attack so if he blocks you or your attack goes through his counter animation, remember how many hits you landed to know when the get up attack is going to come
the dialogue on the island feels almost out of order, the way peoples moods shift and they address talking points from 3 lines ago, is it supposed to feel like a fever dream?
>riku is going to use the paopu fruit to get kairi for himself at the end of the game >you also lose the right to call your gumi ship anything else than highwind
get fricked
Riku doesn't even have a thing for Kairi, he is just being an edgy b***h and is trying to get a rise out of Sora.
But lets be honest, they like eachother more than either likes Kairi.
Useless early game party members aside, why havent more games copied KH1s formula? I like that level ups gives you substantial tools for your kit. I love unlocking something that makes me go from "holy shit kid have you ever swung a sword in your life" to "youre fricking dead when I pop"
Party members utterly break the game if you know how to customise them properly. Goofy and Ariel in particular are hilariously broken, to the point where they can have a higher DPS than Sora.
you accidentally a word.
Alice in Wonderland is CBT primarily due to Early game Donald having 1 HP and Goofy just fricking around with no major abilities
I love how you don't get much of anything for beating him, its just there to reinforce Sora's inferiority problems on the players themselves.
Its clever.
That’s true, although farming the Riku duel AND the race is a good way to get a lot of cash early because you can just sell the potions and Pretty Stones.
The way KH1 put "superbosses" in the tutorial area that you can't return to later was absolute genius. Made the gameplay immediately engaging instead of being 30 hours of tutorial slog before getting to the good combat like in most JRPGs and action games, and also hammered in fundamentals for strong players so that the rest of the game could also be challenging on Expert/Proud without being too frustrating.
Why do people pretend KH1 is even remotely as good as KH2?
The simple fact of the matter is that KH1 is a masterclass in game design, from progression, to level design, to enemy design and every other aspect. It’s a near perfect game and basically the textbook game on how to make an ARPG.
Considering that the other KH games weren’t anywhere near as tightly designed, I often wonder if it was a fluke. There’s a certain something in KH1 that the other games never quite captured to the same degree.
Anybody else also feel that the ending statement in KH1 hasn't been answered by the sequels.
"Remember Sora you are the one that will open the door to light"
Really interesting like there is something more...
I don't feel like KH2 having riku and Sora go back to the islands was really "opening the door to light" felt too plain
I think the whole point of KH1 was to ape the "Super Mario 64" template of exploring a world in a 3D environment right down to finding secrets you'd otherwise be oblivious to if you don't journey off of the beaten path.
KH1 still has plenty of flaws, like the terrible level design and progression in some worlds, especially the early ones where the way to progress the story is to randomly walk in circles between different zones until a cutscene is triggered.
>tell my young kid to try KH, completely forgetting that said kid is awful at figuring out where to go >manages to get past twilight town with a little help on where to go >literally can not do the gummi ship section, dies every time
I'm not at all a pro gamer but I always found the gummi ship sections easy to the point of being boring. I don't even bother upgrading my ship until very late game. I wonder how many other youngins will hit a wall with KH1. I want the franchise to continue and for that it needs new blood.
I wouldn't say it's a masterclass, the game is clunky as frick and filled with a lot of issues. But I will say it's basically the last real Squaresoft game of its ilk, where you can tell the devs gave a frick about world design, how things segue into each other, dungeon-esque exploration and discovery and so forth. Everything felt big, and cared more about stuff to uncover while Sora readily grew from a kid with a stick to a magic knight that can obliterate the field with some heavy costs.
You may not take me at my word, but Kingdom Hearts 1? It's a fricking Mana series successor that Dawn of Mana failed to be, just lacking the multiplayer co-op aspect and multi-weapon/class stuff.
it's playable certainly, but Sora's jumps are weird, his ledge grabs can be inconsistent, the air game is nonexistent until very late game and he feels like he's got weights in his clown shoes. it all works within the context of the game by itself, but I guess later stuff spoiled me.
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All of just screams to me a failure to adjust. It’s not like the controls are totally alien in comparison to later entries, you just gotta mess around for a bit until you get the flow going. I also vastly prefer KH1’s combat in comparison to 2’s.
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tbh Khs initial clunkiness works in its favor much harder than kh2 and 3. Sora does feel kinda shitty before he gets his spells and abilities, which is why it feels so good to go from shlumpy shitty sora to Sora Destroyer of Worlds. The climb isnt as strong in 2 or 3 which is why a lot of people get filtered by bosses where SLAMMING X doesnt cut it, whereas KH1 most bosses require some sort of brain activity
No. It's just absolutely impossible bullshit. >constant chasing, zero stops >no abilities >wakka constantly throwing balls and even if you do manage to hit them, they just fly off and don't hit anyone >can't do jack shit without trading hits >jumping does frick all >even if you do manage to get tidus and selkie down, you won't be able to defeat wakka because you can't get close to him and his balls won't hit him if you try to knock them back at him
Welp, there goes the difficulty. Donald is still useless and is dead every battle. Wish I could keep Tarzan since Goofy manages to stay alive unless it's a boss.
This game is so confusing to start with. First there's the stupid cutscene in the water or some shit, then the Disney princess stained glasses start taking to you, then you get to choose two weapons but only get one, then there's a cryptic personality test. I haven't even leftyhe main island yet and I already feel like I've fricked myself and should start over.
>then you get to choose two weapons but only get one
Clearly you can't read, it says pick the first weapon, give up the second. That just changes when you get abilities. Sword for getting strength and such earlier, staff for MP, shield for defense. You get every ability eventually no matter what, only thing exclusive is taking the staff can net you more MP than anything else.
The personality test just sets how your xp scales through out the game. Morning to level up faster early game, dead of night to level up faster in the end. Midday is just consistent. Neither changes nearly enough for you to worry.
And even if it did just play the fricking game. What is it with people being completely neurotic about shit in video games these days
>only thing exclusive is taking the staff can net you more MP than anything else.
Taking the shield gives you an extra item slot. >What is it with people being completely neurotic about shit in video games these days
No idea, but it's killed replayability in games because devs are catering to the "well I'm only gonna play it once, so I'll use a guide to minmax and get all the secrets" crowd
KH1 is obviously the better game. Story, music, exploration, secrets, characters, worlds, etc.
KH2 had a better combat system, at the cost of literally everything else, namely level design. Worst part is the combat isn't even that amazing. People put it up there with DMC and NG and it isn't even close. Organization fights are dogshit.
Because it is. KH2 is a sidegrade, not an upgrade. >KH1 pros
Better story pacing
Better VFX
Better world design
More of an attempt to integrate RPG mechanics
Better enemy design >KH1 Neutral
Slower, more deliberate combat design >KH1 Negatives
Gummi Ship fricking sucks
Worse bossfights
The design of the RPG systems mean you can frick yourself over with bad/hard ability selection and EXP curve without even realizing it
Atlantica
Dogshit camera controls pre-Final Mix
>KH2 Pros
Gummi Ship fricking owns now
World traversal is fast
New movement abilities feel fantastic to use
Boss design is fantastic
Better cutscene direction
Most of the combat abilities are on set checkpoints now so your level choices at the start don't frick you out of cool stuff
Synthesis is less annoying
More interesting world selection
Drive as a resource is cool
Reaction commands are cool >KH2 Neutral
Faster, floatier combat design leads to a much more "action game" feel, which isn't good or bad as much as it is different
Camera being pulled out fricks with the scale of things >KH2 cons
Drive form grinding to get movement abilities is unironically one of the single worst things they've done in the series
World design is shit now because of the aforementioned, literally just a bunch of flat hallways beyond ONE side area in FM+
Enemy design isn't made to handle Sora expanded moveset, so in 95% of cases mob enemies just cannot touch you unless you're moronic or fighting CoR variations, turning a good chunk of the game into a mashfest
Antiform is cool but also moronic because it punishes you for using the new main mechanic (no, having a bunch of parry frames does not make it any easier to handle for an unexpecting player with no practical way to practice or anticipate antiform)
Story pacing is worse
Atlantica
Cloud has his Advent Children outfit
Donald and Goofy are fricking USELESS now
>KH1 has neatly-crafted worlds but sora's arthritis makes them a chore to traverse >KH2 Sora learns how to use his legs but now everything is fight corridors
peak monkey's paw.
>Atlantica
I've never understood the extreme amounts of hatred that it gets in both versions. Swimming controls are a bit crusty in the original, but it doesn't take long to get used to. KH2 Atlantica is just a harmless rhythm game; the worst you could say is that the actual songs aren't particularly difficult, but I don't think that warrants listing it as a negative.
Besides that, I more or less agree with everything on here. I vastly prefer KH1's slower paced combat over 2, but that's more of a subjective opinion than an objective one.
I love KH1 Atlantica because it actually has really good level design and atmosphere and Ariel is literally the best party member in the game.
2’s Atlantica isn’t badly designed or anything, but its small scope is disappointing and the original songs are extremely cringey. It’s the cringe factor that makes 2’s Atlantica a struggle. Nothing else.
Neither of them. It is. KH3 has classic Osaka team problems: eg Crit is kind of meme, you get oneshot offscreen a lot until you get once/second, and aerial combat feels completely weightless because you can basically have permanent airtime.
A lot of the big issues were fixed in patches, but in base KH3 you couldn't cancel anything. Nowadays, you can cancel fricking everything because of the Item glitch so the game is actually pretty fun. Especially with mods like ReMind Ability Integration giving you a replacement for that godawful first attack early on.
KH3s real issue is that the story is almost entirely filler and kind of shitty. Its not even fun-stupid like DDD, its just stupid.
Attractions were OP at launch, but they've fixed it. All of the level 1 superboss fights I've watched are just spamming air step, it doesn't look very challenging or interesting, unlike KH2 having a bunch of cool strats for individual superbosses.
These are all the problems why people shit on KH3 at launch. Majority of these are all fixed with mods >No critical mode >No proper damage scaling at Lvl1 to force you to use the shit food mechanic >Too floaty and weightless with gravity, combos etc, the game's combat overall isn't as snappy as 1 and 2 >Excessive endlag on fricking everything, meaning you can't cancel moves properly >Blocking is inconsistent somehow >Attractions are shit and forced on you, cannot turn them off >Summons turned into shit minigames instead of being integrated as part of your moveset >Limits being turned into shit cutscenes instead of being integrated as part of your moveset >Shotlocks do too much damage and balanced poorly >Flowmotion is very slow and barely does damage so you rarely have incentive to use it >Keyblade switching has forced built in delay instead of being snappy and instant >Boss design very hit and miss. Most of them are gimmick fights so the only good ones were the humanoid ones (aquanort, org etc) >No proper Org XIII fights, you had shitty half baked ones that had less moves than the KH2 story vers >Awful enemy design with how you get hit offscreen constantly by large groups and some enemies not having proper startup frames/animations (unversed especially bad with this) >No superbosses apart from that shit reskinned heartless >No Coliseum >Toy Story world too much of a gimmick world with the robots >Frozen is a shit world >Big Hero world does nothing with the space and is a meme world >Nomura HUD portraits replaced with tech demo-tier 3D renders >Food mechanic is completely garbage and can be completely ignored unless you're doing Lvl1 because Lvl1 has no proper damage scaling
>be 12 >have to fight malificent and dark riku back to back >struggle for hours >little brother turns off PS2 after beating dark riku >never play the game again
to be young
Can anyone check in their install directory in the STEAM folder if the mp4 files can be played? I'm trying to figure out for hours why my video files are not playing in game and just showing a colored screen.
Yes I'm on Linux but I have not seen anyone yet that has the same problem as me. For me it's showing a sort of colored no signal kind of screen instead of black. In fact most people say the video files just work on Linux if you use the Steam Deck mode and if it doesn't work for them it just shows black.
I couldn't play it on windows but it played in game. Saw the mp4 and was like "shit I can just watch this here right?" But apparently I am missing some shit
So they are probably encrypted to begin with which means I have zero leads and I basically wasted 60 bucks. God damn it, I should have just emulated the PS3 version.
Yeah I have tried the newest 5 options. This is by the way what I am seeing, literally no one else on the internet has the same problem for some reason. Maybe this has something to do with me playing the japanese version but I don't know why that would be relevant.
Is that that TV thing also probably is the Japanese version let's be real.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Fricking unreal if Valve actually converted the video files to be Linux compatible for the english version but not the japanese one.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They might have but idk where people see the option for the Japanese version tbh
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
When you select japanese language in properties it just redownloads the entire game because the versions are entirely separate. Though on steam db there is a depot for the japanese version for Steam Deck so it's unlikely that this is the case.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They probably prioritized fixing English but not Japanese then weird.
I would think a lot of Japan has steam decks.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I guess tomorrow I will download the english release and see if this is the reason, maybe I can just copy paste the english videos into the japanese release.
Is that that TV thing also probably is the Japanese version let's be real.
They might have but idk where people see the option for the Japanese version tbh
They probably prioritized fixing English but not Japanese then weird.
I would think a lot of Japan has steam decks.
Alright it was a codec problem after all. Just downloaded ge proton which includes property codecs and it works. Well... wouldn't be the linux experience if I didn't have to work a lot to make a game run.
I couldn't play it on windows but it played in game. Saw the mp4 and was like "shit I can just watch this here right?" But apparently I am missing some shit
for me it was the final riku fight that filtered me from ever finishing the game
I simply cheesed my way through the game as Soraby not picking sleights ever, only HP and CP. I kept two or three 0s at the very front of my deck, and stacked plain attack cards over and over while using hi potions to restore the cards I lost from stacking. I cannot finish the game in either version if I choose to get sleights.
The race against Riku, fighting the three kids at once, dealing with Riku's kickflip off the ground. The beginning of the game was channeling.
Also, I miss Destiny Islands. I keep hoping we get to walk around in as a level again in a future game. We've spent more time on fake Destiny Islands now thanks to Chain of Memories and Recoded than we did the real thing.
I'm phoneposting, just git gud and watch/listen for tells instead of spamming attack like a moron, after a while you LV up and get so much ATK you can just skip the fight.
just jump and attack, jump attack once and he will do that foot kick, move away and dont attack and then jump attack him again. You guys are shit at recognizing patterns
Jap, play English later to have a good laugh and to listen to the legit Disney characters. Sora's EN voice is nice but it loses on the himbo energy JP voice has, while Riku goes from cool friend that teases you in JP to annoying pretentious motherfricker in EN.
I did a proud run once years ago but in my replay I wanted to go normal. I remember proud mode being challenging but it wasn't that fun. Just lots of spamming magic in the end. I remember the KH2 hardest difficulty being way more fun and truly changing the gameplay fundamentally.
As long as you watch a cutscene compilation or something on YouTube, yes you can absolutely skip playing CoM.
I know they only kept it cause they already had a PS2 version to build off of, but that shit honestly should have be turned into a movie like some of the others did, the gameplay gets so boring after the first few worlds and just devolves into savescumming the overpriced moogle packs for 9s and 0s because sleights become useless in boss fights since bosses are just nonstop card breaking with 24+ sleights or 0s.
Re:CoM gameplay is not enjoyable, but important shit happens in it so just watch a cutscene compilation for Sora and Riku's story.
I don’t know why people would play KH in anything other than English considering that the franchise has some of the greatest English dub work of all time that has characters being played by several Hollywood A listers.
The only exception I can think of is Aerith’s KH2 voice. Holy shit, it’s fricking awful. What were they thinking? Why’d they change it when her KH1 voice was literally perfect?
I mentally blocked out her awful KH2 voice until I saw your message. Was her VA on fricking Ambien during recording sessions?
>preferring the english version with censorship and low budget impersonators because disney VAs would have demanded literal millions plus perpetual royalties for even the smallest roles
I love KH1 Atlantica because it actually has really good level design and atmosphere and Ariel is literally the best party member in the game.
2’s Atlantica isn’t badly designed or anything, but its small scope is disappointing and the original songs are extremely cringey. It’s the cringe factor that makes 2’s Atlantica a struggle. Nothing else.
2's atlantica was shit because it was a gay rhythm game. I made someone else play it.
I don’t know why people would play KH in anything other than English considering that the franchise has some of the greatest English dub work of all time that has characters being played by several Hollywood A listers.
The only exception I can think of is Aerith’s KH2 voice. Holy shit, it’s fricking awful. What were they thinking? Why’d they change it when her KH1 voice was literally perfect?
Frick off, you can play the game in English later now that you have the option. If Riku wasn't directed like garbage 2000s high school dropouts and was actually shown caring for Sora when they first meet in TT instead of being a snarky little shit perhaps KH2's ending would have hit closer to home, instead I got bamboozled by the awful EN dub and it ruined my experience. If people today can play subs with no issue then frick it.
For all the invalid criticism of it being a ljust barely more lighthearted jrpg. Sora starts racking up a body count fairly early. We flat out killed Clayton, and that’s like 3 hours in. And you’re still killing monsters and animals before that.
I mean Clayton isn't actually killed by Sora, his heartless just crushes him.
Sora never directly kills any "human" characters while theya re still human till CoM with this scene 3.30:00 to 3.32:45
Unlike something like say, Yakuza for example, KH has no qualms about killing and outright malicious murder. Which I find hilarious considering that the former is about organized crime, whereas the latter is about going on a swashbuckling adventure with Disney characters.
It’s not like it makes him less moral. He’s an adventurer more than anything. Not his fault some chumps roll up and say they’re going to kill him or his nakama to get their way. It’s arguable he’s doing the most moral thing by putting them down
Glad to see people talking about it now that the remaster is out, my PC got some issues a while back so I lost the folder with my pirated EGS copy (alonside all of my emulators, still mad I got cut off on Xenogears right at the part where I was starting to enjoy the story) so I'll probably just wait until I get money to buy the Steam release. Fricking hate most modern software but cloud saves are really reliable for this type of thing.
What is with the bizarre atmosphere of the first game, and why do none of the other KH games replicate it? It is just so eerie and dreamlike. I know it's a buzzword, but it genuinely feels extemely liminal.
For me it had the vibe of not just childhood's end but beut being sad about that ending. Friends are growing more distant, the world has expanded but is new and filled with both danger and unfamiliarity, and the worlds being consumed 1 by 1 makes for a undercurrent of existential dread that rarely needs to be directly touched upon..
CoM was more direct in its dread coming from its focus on memory and identity.
While KH2 focused on loss and replying to KH1 themes with with optimistic outcomes.
For example in KH1 Riku and Sora's friendship decays rapidly in the transition to their teenage years ending with them coming to blows, then after Riku accepting that he was wrong but only getting to act after with heroic sacrifice.
KH2 follows this up with Riku having spent last last year mostly Isolated from his old friends believing that the actions he has done have made him unworthy of being accepted again. To which Sora, who had gotten over any hard feelings by the time of getting Oathkeeper KH1, welcomes him back into the fold entirely and they have a proper reconciliation in the end.
>Stories and environments were more abstracted >Elements of danger were more varied >More focus on the cast being disoriented by their journey instead of just rolling with it >Disney world themes actually tied into the story and created continuing plot threads instead of being one-off movie recaps.
Traditional Disney employees were involved with the production of KH1 and had input on the atmosphere, art, sounds, animations etc. It was an actual collab between Square and Disney
CoM and onward was SE only with Disney suits just saying yes/no to what world's and characters can be used
I think his whole KH arc boils down to his world getting raped by heartless and he feels immense guilt because he couldn't do anything to stop it, hence why he changed his name
Fun fact, in JP KH1 when he first meets Sora and calls him a child and Sora gets offended he replies with warukattana which is his catchphrase from FF8.
It kinda pisses me off that Sora is never acknowledged despite having the best feats of anyone shown in the series. He is always just naturally treated as a decent fighter at best. Especially cucks like Hercules acting like hot shit is annoying.
The series is desperate to treat Sora like a weak underdog but he's just not, last time he felt like one was way back in Chain of Memroies. It really came to a head in KH3. Characters were outright bullying him, it was so weird. He was the only one that could save the hurting people... but he's also a weak dunce that can't do anything. Which is it? In actuality they should all be embarrassed at their constant jobbing and feel guilty because Sora has to do everything for them. I felt especially bad for Aqua, she was outright humiliated, it was borderline ryona.
>everyone wants Sora to be ready for the final fight >they also all suck so fricking bad that every single one of them NEEDS Sora to save their asses in every single individual fight
At least ReMind lets you tackle the battles AS the characters to technically give a conclusion for them, but then they all suck compare to Sora's kid besides murderboner Roxas, so it just further highlights how fricking stupid it is to dunk on the reality-warping dingus
>I felt especially bad for Aqua
To be fair, Aqua is kinda the opposite in the way that she is always treated as a super strong character but feat wise she is completely pathetic.
That's really interesting. I didn't notice before but yeah she's exactly like a bizarro-Sora. The characters all speak so highly of her and the journal entries are trying their best to fluff her up. It's your job to save Terra and Ventus! Heart of steal! Yes ma'am! I want to train with Aqua! You'd think she's the main character. But she falls flat on her face and pisses herself at every turn.
You get a slightly different cutscene (and 30 exp), Sora just falls down from exhaustion instead and Squall explains Yuffie he went easy on him. Also, when you leave the town with D&G, you get an extra Elixir.
I know a lot of people like that they brought in a fair amount of the celebrity Disney actors. But coming in fresh for the first time in years, a lot. And I mean a lot is incredibly phoned in outside of like 1 or 2 of them. Some of the line sound like they came in for one take and then rushed out because they had more important things to do.
They really did just Waifu2X this shit up without much consideration for how any of it works, and it's going to be retroactive to the Epic versions too. Fans are gonna need their own RE1 Remake style re-upscaler.
the first few kingdoms(?) of KH1 has you going from room to room back and forth just to find the one room where the story specific event is happening. You really arent missing out on much tbh.
anyone have any luck running the game smoothly at high framerates? anything above 120fps for me is really fricky and stuttery and keeping refresh rate on breaks the gamespeed for me, i know theres gotta be a way to play this smoothly at above peasant framerate
I'm honestly just gonna wait for major rebalance mods before I ever tackle BBS or DDD again. I fricking HATE Command Deck gameplay and especially how stilted the entire system can be where it's encouraged to load up your cheesiest i-frame-yist shit, fire, dodge to reload.
i beat the games, even a certain time traveling homosexual's first iteration, and it was torture. mainline games, no issues besides the usual trouble spots for folks, but Command Deck game design kneecaps your ass so fricking hard. never sat down with ReCoded though
>I fricking HATE Command Deck gameplay
Preach it. I managed to tolerate Re:CoM gameplay to at least finish Sora's story, but I couldn't even make it halfway through Aqua's story because I did not enjoy the command deck gameplay (and I didn't give a shit about Aqua as a character)
Better Battle System fixes a lot of the issues with BBS. You can cancel every command and action in the game which makes it a lot more bearable.
DDD is probably the worst rendition of the command deck ever made and fusing dream eaters is cancer.
I still don’t understand people who bring lighthearted or juvenile makes it inherently bad. Honestly I felt more embarrassed last month playing that guardians of galaxy than KH.
I get a kick out of how people make a big deal about the KH2 censorship of Xigbar and the Pirates guns, but then no one even raises an eyebrow at the hunter from Tarzan in one shooting you repeatedly like a fricking butthole with a hunting rifle.
I don’t understand what you’re trying to argue? There is no issue with him having a gun trying to kill you. He’s a bad guy ina video game. And like most antagonists he gets his righteous comeuppance. It’s a non issue.
KH2 got censored to remove the usage of the flintlock firearms and Xigbar's gun, all replaced with weird crossbow stuff. Will even put a gun to his head like the film, but in the censored version he just stands off to the side threatening to die somehow or another as if he was gonna jump in the sea. KH1's Tarzan stuff never got a gun censorship in later versions.
Only KH I've beaten on critical. The slower pace and less gimmicks feel better to play than attraction, shotlock, flowmotion spam. >you can just choose not to play that way
Yeah.
Yeah i love kh1 proud, i think its a perfect difficulty setting its not annoyingly difficult restart 30 times but you still have to focus on equipment, theres decent difficulty spikes to keep you on edge, and you still eventually get to feel really powerful which is what you’re looking for at the end of an rpg. Its genuinely my favorite combat jrpg game of all time and i think i would have liked kh1 a lot less if i played on normal. Critical kh2 is annoying as frick and barely feels like an rpg just some budget god of war game on some annoying unfair difficulty setting.
To the pc lads out there is this viable with m&k? I feel like scrolling through the action menu with the mousewheel could be more intuitive than doing a monkey ass claw grip to use the dpad + ls in combat but idk how well made the pc controls are.
the camera is 100x faster with kbam
i'm doing a controller run but i'm curious to do another run with kbam later cause it's a completly different experience
All I know is I took a screenshot with keyboard and the game switch to kb + m so seems to be a thing at least... even asks if you use a QWERTZ keyboard of all things... and AYERT or whatever it was
Which friendship between Sora's group and Disney characters felt most genuine? 95% it feels just like Sora is forced to be part of the story so the relationships feel equally forced.
Hercules benefits from not having heaps to do either, they get a lot of theoretical down time between tournaments and shit where other worlds are RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW K THANKS BYE
They have far better gameplay than DMC, every souls and soulslike game, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden, Zelda, and every other action rpg and closely-related genre games combined.
They’re really solidly constructed ARPGs with quite a lot of depth to their mechanics and encounter design. Defenders in KH1 alone have a lot of cool little design elements. >can deflect their fireballs right back at them >can use the opposite elements of their shield breath attack to both temporarily stun them and get some tech points >just flatten them outright with Gravity >DPS their ass to death with good ol’ Aero.
>>can use the opposite elements of their shield breath attack to both temporarily stun them and get some tech points
I didn’t even know that you can do that, what the hell?
Yeah, it’s pretty sick.
https://x.com/biazingwaters/status/1800940502499373301?s=46&t=hHMkRZSCKFxMe1Gq_aHQhg
KH1 has tons of cool little interactions like this. Did you know that the Fat Bandits have an item drop that can only happen if you kill them after they inhale for their fire breath attack?
>>can use the opposite elements of their shield breath attack to both temporarily stun them and get some tech points
I didn’t even know that you can do that, what the hell?
if you're familiar with action games and decent at them, you'll be fine on Proud mode. you can always just go grind if you get stuck somewhere, but you probably won't ever have to do that. As for the "elements", I took the sword and dropped the staff, but it's really just a matter of personal preference. read their descriptions and do whatever seems right for you
Never pick sword as what you want. Always pick it as a sacrifice. Either pick shield or staff. Shield gets you defensive abilities faster. Staff nets you more MP for late game. Sword is a scam.
I picked sword when I was 13 and then sword again when I was played a KH1FM in japanese on PCSX2 in 2012. I think I picked shield on the ps3 release of 1.5 and I think staff on the ps4 release. I have played these games many times over the past 18 years.
yeah, shield is a must for proud or critical, but I really hate not picking sword since you get the gap closer so fast, it makes the game miles better for me
Sword staff shield are all viable picks, do whatever you like. I think mathmatically staff is the best just because mp is the best stat in the game. Sora is an overpowered mage and all of his strongest physical abilties use mp but i missed having critical strike until an absurd level dropping sword and shields extra item slots are pretty nice so do whatever.
I am being filtered on Critical Mode in KH2 like 10 hours in. The small enemies are maddening with how they randomly clip you for max hp. I don't really want to play Normal/Proud since it probably feels as bad as KH1 did and the lowest one would be too easy to enjoy as well, feels bad to suck.
If they're like optional superbosses, I probably won't beat them all. I'll give them a go though, obviously.
You just need to push through. I remember getting filtered on the ship in the pirates of the caribbean world on critical and finally getting past it only for literally everything afterwards to be a complete breeze.
That's what pushed me through Muland with those centaur guys and the fat heartless who one shot you, then Hades and lance heartless came around. I'll probably keep chipping away for a bit longer and hope the new abilities fix it.
Honestly yeah if you don't care too much about super bosses critical is fun. Otherwise proud I think would be more fun with the super bosses if you wanted to fight them. Shit maybe you can mod the game to switch your save to proud if needed now lol
You just need to push through. I remember getting filtered on the ship in the pirates of the caribbean world on critical and finally getting past it only for literally everything afterwards to be a complete breeze.
KH2 crit I don't fight anything except mandatory encounters until I get my spells and good abilities. Fire is the first one you get which is good for dealing with mobs as long as you don't use the finisher version of it. The next is Trinity Limit which is good for basically one hit ko'ing mobs in a room
A good thing to do is learn the 1-2, 1-2, 1-2-3 combo because using finishers too much on heartless/nobodies can do more harm than good since it blows them away and usually pushes them to use one of their bigger and more annoying abilities. Combos where you delay finishers can help you get them low enough so that you actually kill them with the finisher instead
So there is no point in waiting for the games to get any cheaper without having to wait at least a year right? as cheap as they are going to be for quite a while?
Squeenix sucks dick at sale pricing. youll wait 2 years and get 15% off the moronic 100 something dollar pricetag. Buy it off Greenmangaming for 56ish bucks.
have you checked greenmangaming? bought it there for 56 eurobucks
thank you, yeah was considering getting that deal right now, I have plenty to play but buying them wouldn't hurt, love the series anyway, (until 3 that is but I have yet to play its dlc)
Should I do my 100% runs on the highest difficulty since I'm more likely to have to level up hard in them? Or does it make the end game bosses impossibly frustrating?
Or at that point do you even feel the difference in difficulty?
I absolutely adore kh1, i didn’t grow up with it. Played it when i was 24 and falling out of love with video games randomly on a whim and it reignited my love. Tried kh2 after and was bored out of my mind, dropped it at beasts castle. Anyone else? I really dont like how worthless the Disney worlds feel, or sora he seems more mature as a kid and even his childish dialogue fit better when hes a child lol. The combat is fine, i dont understand how anyone can consider it better than kh1. Its just a generic mash attack action game, cool? The organization 13 shit seems more embarrassing than the childlike adventure of the first game. Any other games worth trying in the series or will i just be a kh1 only stan?
Is KH2 shorter than KH1? I'm playing KH2 and each of the worlds is shockingly short. I've only played 12 hours and have done Twilight Town, Disney Castle/old timey Mickey Mouse world, Pirates, Hercules, Beast's Castle, Mulan and Halloween town already. This shit is flying right by.
Is KH2 shorter than KH1? I'm playing KH2 and each of the worlds is shockingly short. I've only played 12 hours and have done Twilight Town, Disney Castle/old timey Mickey Mouse world, Pirates, Hercules, Beast's Castle, Mulan and Halloween town already. This shit is flying right by.
I don't remember them being short at all. Are you rushing it, maybe?
Not really no, I'm playing on Proud and
not stopping to grind or anything.
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KH2 will have you revisiting the worlds later on with some remixed enemies and boss fights to spice things up.
Oh that makes sense, glad to hear it.
I can't say for sure, because KH1 did not have skippable cutscenes before FM, but Roxas's section of 2 is roughly two-and-a-half to three hours if you include the cutscenes (and skip grinding for the watermelon), with less than forty-five minutes of gameplay if you skip them all. I assume if you skip all cutscenes and never die, 2 is arguably the shortest game in the saga.
I didn't skip cutscenes but I think the Roxas section took me the longest of all the worlds so far.
I can't say for sure, because KH1 did not have skippable cutscenes before FM, but Roxas's section of 2 is roughly two-and-a-half to three hours if you include the cutscenes (and skip grinding for the watermelon), with less than forty-five minutes of gameplay if you skip them all. I assume if you skip all cutscenes and never die, 2 is arguably the shortest game in the saga.
Reminder to new CoM bros who just want to cheese through the best story:
Just build a deck entirely of fire magic cards and have your final few cards fire damage buffs. Legit plays itself and saves you a ton of pain if you hate the combat.
Sword shield staff and choose your xp distribution are such simple choices but more impactful than all trillion modern jrpg rpg trees deal 8% more damage blah blah blah
Why should I have to give up vital game functions at all? Imagine playing monster hunter with the great sword and they're like, yeah, either lose the guard, the dodge roll or the ability to charge your attacks. KH's combat is shallow as a puddle, give me everyting and MAYBE I won't get bored.
Anon, you get all the abilities you can when playing normally, just at different periods due to starting choices and growth rate. It’s an RPG, roll with it. >KH's combat is shallow as a puddle,
The first game alone gives him you more options and choices than some action games made today. Shit, Aeroga is basically a defensive Spiral Swords that also adds DPS to all of your melee attacks and deflects projectiles automatically, which makes for a ton of ways in which you can approach enemies.
Stop and Graviga are also fun as frick to use. I think KH1 made magic some of the most fun to use in the series, especially with the different interactions they can not just with enemies but the level design as well.
>Shit, Aeroga is basically a defensive Spiral Swords that also adds DPS to all of your melee attacks and deflects projectiles automatically, which makes for a ton of ways in which you can approach enemies.
It also makes Ice Titan's projectiles bigger and unblockable because frick you
If you don't pick shield you don't get guard until, what, two thirds through the game? You have to deflect attacks with the wonky ocerhead swing. And there's no point in picking afternoon because by the time you hit the equilibrium you're ready to fight the final boss.
I'm so glad that I didn't know any of this when I was playing as a kid. Making those choices and wondering what they meant added so much mystery to the game.
The very first ability Shield gives you through leveling up in KH1 is Slapshot, a melee attack, but due to its super-quick startup, it makes it ideal for parrying enemy attacks and therefore it is a legitimate defensive option. Experiment a bit anon, it’ll do you wonders.
It is a perfect ARPG, something Square never managed to make again, and a fantastic Disney game, something Disney never managed to foster again. They got it right the first time and only the first time.
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Still one of my faves even after all of these years.
It is a perfect ARPG, something Square never managed to make again, and a fantastic Disney game, something Disney never managed to foster again. They got it right the first time and only the first time.
I’d say the TWEWY duology also does a fantastic job of blending action and RPG together in a way that the RPG elements actually enhance the core combat.
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TWEWY infamously destroyed every lower screen.
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I still remember the stylus marks on my bottom screen
shame that TWEWY was best on DS even after all these years
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I tried it on emulator to avoid permanently ruining my handheld but it sucks fricking balls there and the mouse hurt my wrist. As such I loathe TWEWY and will never play the sequel.
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it really is such a god damn shame
all the ports destroyed the combat system. once you got the hang of controlling two characters and it clicked, it was impossible to put down
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>TWEWY >emulator
Oh, you poor soul. Also, get a screen protector.
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And it was awesome.
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Between Pokemon Ranger and TWEWY... that poor DS screen sure got a workout.
Guard's a comfort option. Unless you go tackling superbosses, and by that point you should have it unlocked same with the Dodge Roll, you REALLY don't need defensive abilities to beat the game so long as you know what you're doing. It's not like later titles where you pretty much have a multitude of options swarming you regardless of what you pick but Guard cheese breaks nearly everything.
I was waiting for Guard for a while in my KH1 playthrough, finally got it, tried it, then took it off and went back to teching hits instead, so I can safely say I won't care about missing it if I ever play it again
>playing kh1 for the first time several years ago >squall kicks my shit in >decide to replay 1 again instead of replaying 2 first for like the 4th time >beat him without taking any damage at all
get fricked
So just how hard are level 1 runs anyway? I've beaten all the superbosses in 1FM and 2FM on the hardest difficulties, but I've always grinded to max level because I like the feeling of being complete and having all abilities at my disposal, and not being maxed out fricks up my ocd because it means there's always something to unlock still, but level 1 only runs would technically be at max level from a perspective and means I don't have to grind so that always made me attracted to the idea, once I finish my crit playthrough of 3 and Re:Mind's superbosses I plan to do a LV1 run of the mainlines from the beginning, with Kingdom Key only, so how hard would that be (not having Second Chance or Once More is one thing but no Guard in KH1 sounds really intimidating).
I've done it for KH2 in critical and it's really not that bad at all, the keyblade doesn't matter too much as you'll be doing min. damage regardless (which is still decent, as the game has a pity system for damage and I think critical has a multiplier for player damage).
Sure, you'll be dying in one/two hits a ton and some basic ass heartless encounters can become a big pain in the ass, but that's a part of the fun.
>KH1
Very hard as it's very punishing and you have to understand the game very well to not get filtered especially if you do an extra challenge of kingdom key only as that requires you to beat bosses in specific ways
This should probably be done last unless you know you have good knowledge of KH1 mechanics >KH2
Not very hard at all so long as you make use of all your tools (summons, drives, magic etc). Kingdom Key only is also pretty fun
Most casuals will get filtered by the usual stuff like the pirates, tron tanks, pride lands etc >KH3
Easier than 2 because of all the different shit you can spam. Upgrade system also makes Kingdom Key only easy too
Use food if you want extra dmg but I never bothered
>So just how hard are level 1 runs anyway?
KH1 ones are pretty hard but not that unreasonable, you have no access to any skills (including guard) bar Dodge Roll but you get at least two hits to survive from full HP even at lategame, as long as you have MP or items you're good to go
Also with damage storage which is a EXP Zero only thing, Magic (and Mushu) becomes way stronger
KH2 are arguably harder because you don't get access to Second Chance or Once More, which means any damage can be lethal, but you get a bit more HP as the game progresses from bonus levels (beating bosses, event fights, etc) and you have several tools in your arsenal to keep yourself alive and the game is balanced around Lv1 damage so it's not a slog
KH3 is the hardest one but that's mostly due to the game design, it works like 2's except mob fights will have enemies snipe you from offscreen with no forewarning, and damage isn't properly scaled so you'll likely play the most boring way possible, running away and spamming magic, that said Formchanges do raise your base damage a bit so there's that, but there isn't an incentive to fight offensively like the other two games have since you get formchange arrows even when you're using Thunder from a hundred miles away
1 level is hard
2 level 1 is mildly challenging
3 level 1 is mildly challenging
didn't do other ones
these games only start becoming truly difficult when you add further restrictions beyond level 1 because you have so many strong tools. but that's what also makes these runs fun, actually having a real use for the toolkit for once
started playing 1 for the first time on Proud, almost quit in the Tarzan world to change starting choices (apparently +sword -shield is pretty bad), but man, the game is a lot better after that, especially once you get Cure
Chamelon boss on proud is a shit show unless you start doing the short hop jump attack combos. Cancels so much animation lag and lets you potentially tech those eye lasers to save your life,
Yeah but its not always easy because when you combo, your momentum can take you wide left or right and end up moving away from Clayton and letting him escape
>stomach parasite's second form
That one requires timing, but if you can time your air combos proper, you'll tech all his blows
Also when he gets stunned and opens his mouth, don't do finishers because he'll immediately get back up
Worst boss for me on Proud first time was Xenmas since it was my first time and I played KH1 a frickton prior to finally getting Final Mix. I hated the recolors though.
Chamelon boss on proud is a shit show unless you start doing the short hop jump attack combos. Cancels so much animation lag and lets you potentially tech those eye lasers to save your life,
It helps if you can get Clayton in a corner
You can stunlock him there and you'll be mostly safe from the chameleons eye lasers
I just did the tarzan world on proud and Goofy was stun locking Clayton while donald and me were beating the shit out of the Chameleon, barely took any damage lol
>cast Aeroga on Donald and Goofy >use the command button to direct them towards enemy and bosses >watch as the combined DPS just wrecks the shit out of HP bars
Don't do the full combo on him, jump and one-two
When he falls on the floor you just bolt outta there (or try to get the parry timing but good luck on that with the wooden sword)
>Steam deck defaults the games on borderless windowed mode
That was the most disgusting thing I had to witness for the 10 minutes I did before I realized what it was
This is KH, not GodOfSoy. Jumping into a group of enemies keyblade swinging on the higher difficulties is akin to jumping into a blender. This remains consistent in every KH game.
Honestly, the beat-em-up genre rules always apply, making sure to group up a bunch that can be torn up with a solid attack/combo together just like with magic anyway, and watching for bounces or a Big Body suddenly turning to slap his belly and the like. You have infinite usage of beating everything to death, you only have so much magic and so many Ethers, but with both styles crowd control never stops being essential.
You'll still want MP because more MP = more Aero = less damage taken = more unga
That said, you wanna be a real boy, you pick sword and give up shield
Guard only at lv24 and less MP to fight defensively
I gave up Mystic personally. Sora seemed less magical in 1 compared to 2 anyway so it made more sense for him to have limited magical abilities.
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I respect it
I still need muh leaf bracer as early as I can get but I love the headcannon or whatever you'd describe that feeling is
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Headcanon yeah. But I'd argue its canonical in concept of him being less magical given the differences between 1 and 2 in terms of what Sora can do. He's definitely less magical.
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you're totally right. the way he slides around with magic in KH 2 with the drive forms definitely makes it seem like he's gotten used to it
I just wish he remembered how to not to spend all his MP on a single cast of cure but I guess namine kept that memory lol
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I dunno, I see KH1 Sora as being very different from KH2 Sora, but in very different ways. KH1, he's a magic knight, he has a lot of magic imbued in his later attacks and the Ragnarok special, but his inexperience lends him to using the keyblade bluntly. KH2, he's got Roxas experience backing him up, and suddenly he becomes a superblade master where it's less about spells and magic and more just doing insane shit all over the place as he overhauls his physicality and it's like the magic is just a thing that happens with it. I think it takes til KH3 to really cement both styles together as a teenage nuclear wizard slapper.
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KH2 is more of the magic knight. He has a lot of magical abilities in general and can integrate them into his combo strings.
>You'll still want MP because more MP = more Aero = less damage taken = more unga
You mean more gravity and goofy only has mp gift. You can nuke bosses with that strategy and pretty much every encounter becomes trivial with it. Its so busted I actually love it
>play KH1 on PCSX2 several years ago straight from the disc, but this was before the major nightly updates that made it really good >virtually no problems all game long >kill Chernabog >game crashes
Its harder then it looks. Replicate anything you see when you look up the pro gamers do it and its tricky to get the motions just right. That's an easier trick then fricking fighting Lingering Will though.
i'm like riku except instead of taming his inner darkness and using it as his strength i'm taming my alcoholism and using vodka to unlock my super self
kingdom hearts could have been a decent series if it wasn't for the disney shit
its ok when you are like 12 but as a grown ass adults having anime edgelords next to goofy is fricking moronic and I feel like a god damn autist for even entertaining this nonsense
I suspect the real reason you feel like an autist is because you are one if your post is any indication.
>he doesn't enjoy seeing Donald Duck go "Sora, it's Sephiroth!" as he leaps out of a portal >he doesn't like the complete nonsense that is Yen Sid uttering "Chip and Dale are currently analyzing the data that Ansem the Wise provided to Riku"
Weak
>classic characters are le cringe
COPE
struck a nerve have I lol, manchildren will stay as such 🙂
>he doesn't enjoy seeing Donald Duck go "Sora, it's Sephiroth!" as he leaps out of a portal >he doesn't like the complete nonsense that is Yen Sid uttering "Chip and Dale are currently analyzing the data that Ansem the Wise provided to Riku"
Weak
Your only right today. But yesterday you were a homosexual. Yesterday Disney wasn't as fricking ruined as it was. Yesterday we had hope. Yesterday seemed so long ago.
>been playing KH1 since the OG PS2 release >only now just figured out that if you use Fire on Dark Riku, he absorbs the attack and shoots it back at you and you can deflect back at him for a stable phase 1 loop
Damn, this game is so cool.
You can also use Gravity on Maleficent’s floating platform to bring her down faster or use Blizzard on the fireplace to stop Trickmaster from lighting up its batons.
Me on the first game, that Island was taking so long that I gave up
At least you didn't have to suffer through the 3 hour long tutorial of Kingdom Hearts 2 starring some literal who sora copy that no one cares about
FILTERED HARD
that's kino however
Roxas' segment drags a bit but that end shot is worth it. I do think it probably could have been cut down though, like the day you waste doing nothingburger stuff like watching the train.
literally the hardest fight in the game
im not joking
The hardest part is falling off. Otherwise, light jump and attack in twos or threes, anticipate when he does his curled up kick attack and immediately move to the side. That's it.
Dark Riku in the original version of the game on expert mode is the hardest fight in KH1.
Dark Riku is piss easy, I beat him on my first try. Dragon Maleficent was the hardest fight, she took me hours.
t. expert, picked sword, dropped shield, slowest exp curve)
>Picking the sword and dropping the shield
Damn straight, glass cannon build baby.
He gets completely wrecked by Olympia and counterattack. Glide makes his desperation attack a non issue. Dragon Maleficent is harder than he is.
I have never struggled with dragon maleficent
Tinkerbell hard counters Dragon Maleficent.
Dakr riku is the hardest fight and it's not even close
No one who actually did every fight actually believes this. Casuals who only played the main story perhaps.
Even discounting the postgame stuff or the extra fights in the Arena I died way more to early game bosses like Cerberus than Dark Riku personally, on Proud difficulty
I should get back to RECoM one of these days, I started it up since I played the original back in the day but got distracted early on
Problem with the post game fights is that you’re probably also getting most spells, abilities, and maybe even ultima weapons. The second you get upgraded aero and an ability that has invincibility frames the super bosses can’t do jackshit to you
>use Aero against Ice Titan
>he just uses even bigger ice shards against you
I remember fighting ice titan, spending like 5 minutes hitting him and not seeing his health bar move, then giving up
spotted the player with PTSD
>there's no WAY YOU'RE TAKING KAIRI'S HEART
only because you haven't really learned how to fight yet at the very beginning. if it's your second or third game, it's not hard at all
the REAL hardest fight in the game is when you race him and he always knocks open the trapdoor on the bridge that piece of shit
???
he does the kick move after every 4 hits on him. just run to the side when he does it. the amount of hits decreases with his HP though so watch out
You don't get much out of doing it. It's there just to be fun for a bit.
Basically you need to figure out how many hits it takes until he does the counter attack. When he gets to low health he does it more often.
Don't forget to try the 3 v 1 fight. :^)
>Don't forget to try the 3 v 1 fight.
Frick that, I did that shit yesterday and fricking beat their asses on proud mode, for the first time.
the strat that works best for me is target wakka so he cant pester you from afar, then whip moron while dodging tidus attacks and then finally Tidus. you can probably swap whip moron and tidus order but whip moron left unchecked can cause trouble while tidus is easy to account for by moving
You can hit Wakka's balls and they have a good chance of hitting Tidus/Selphie and stunning them.
sounds kinda risky, they do decent damage
I am a master over Wakka's balls.
The risk/reward system of parrying is something that was only lost every game onward.
Selphie's attacks are the hardest to read for me, must be because for the heck of it I spent some time parry grinding Tidus and was determined to beat Wakka purely by hitting his balls just for the fun of it ages ago.
My go to is to stun wakka, then focus on Tidus. It's easier to ignore Selphie cause otherwise Tidus is all over your ass.
Lock on tidus and selphi, leave waka in sight and reflect his balls(kek), they will usually stun tidus and selphi and let them become easy pray.
Im super sad that the rereleases dont have the german voice acting for KH1 and KH2, those are the first RPGs ive ever played, the first 3D Games too.
Hopefully someone can patch those in for you German Bro.
>Im super sad that the rereleases dont have the german voice acting for KH1 and KH2
There's a mod for this and the kh patcher just got updated yesterday for the steam release.
If you really want to cheese him just wait till he jumps and then combo him in the air.
>so you find a fricking portal
>you can think of the portal as scary
riku's a b***h in both the fight and the race. I farm him for pretty stones. git gud.
Losing against Riku as many times as possible on the island makes winning against him in Hollow Bastion more kino and gives it the overcoming your shounen rival flair.
Yeah the way that KH1 reinforces Sora and Riku's rivalry through gameplay is pure ludo. KH2 could never.
KH2 has different strengths going for it
But you’re right the rivalry aspect in KH1 is ludo as frick
There are whole encounters with Riku you can miss, so it truly feels unexpected and heated when you do fight him.
>There are whole encounters with Riku you can miss
Wait really?
You know how Monstro is entirely optional? You get different cutscenes in Monstro if you go back after Riku is possessed.
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I love when he helps with the boss fight. Best version.
>he never used limits
>Doesn't appreciate the kino of teaming up with your best friend who risked his life for yours after you finally defeated him and reconciled over your rivalry.
II just takes everything 1 built further.
lol Imagine if Sora and Riku kissed under the Kingdom Heart
no homosexual bro lol
while kairi is watching
>vgcats
god damn im old. yet i was excited for the stream release of KH even though i bought the collection on ps4 when it was originally released.
man, i have brain damage...
You're not the only one.
I am happy about steam releases of games I liked since it means new threads pop up where I can talk about the game and see how othet anons are enjoying it.
>One of the few times VGCats was actually funny and not reliant on blatant gore and shock value tier edgy humor to be "funny"
It's a shame Scott Ramsoomair couldn't keep up with drawing furry porn on Patreon to pay his bills and DELETED EVERYTHING as a result because say what you want about the writing of VGCats, but when Scott cooked, he fricking COOKED especially with the art.
>check the website for shits and giggles
>barren as shit, go through the comics
>three comics in from the newest is a political comic
Good lord
Can't blame him, kairi peaked at 9.
>kairi peaked at 9.
wee woo wee woo this is the dicky police, gonna need to drop your panties to verify the authenticity of the dicky
>II just takes everything 1 built further.
Except for the RPG elements.
Good? Throw garbage that doesn't need to be there.
Ah yes, because Reaction Commands were such a better compromise.
More gameplay options are in fact better.
>Reaction Commands
>gameplay options
Yep.
You could call them a mixed bag but on the whole, reaction commands were a net positive
You had the boring ones where it was essentially just waiting until the enemy did something (Cyclone, the Neoshadow one, Warp Shot and so on) but you had the more engaging ones that rewarded good plays (blocking a Samurai gives you a chance to use The End and clean the surrounding area, landing a finisher on Berserkers let you wield their weapon and use a great CC option, guarding Large Bodies gives you a free hit beyond hitting them with magic or from behind, etc)
>complaining about the RPG elements in an ARPG
Hell, KH1 handles its RPG elements than some games do today.
Kh2 is the kino when the rivals team up.
>fight armored xemnas with just Riku.
>two of Xemnas' battle quotes are
>"Sora... Riku... there is falsehood within your hearts... Do you dare deny it?"
>"Sora... are you certain you can trust Riku?"
>"Riku... are you sure you're not jealous of Sora?"
>xemnas tries to break their teamwork by trying to make them doubt eachother.
>Sora and Riku or so in synch that neither of them nor the game itself even aknowledges it to the point that it probably doesn't even register to either of them or even (you) the player in the heat of the moment.
That ludonarrative resonance was throughly kino
Fine I'll fricking read yuigoh
Honestly the OG manga is the peak of the story.
Early yugioh is brutal shadow yuugi set someone on fire at a fricking diner
>KH1 reinforces Sora and Riku's rivalry through gameplay is pure ludo. KH2 could never.
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Why did the ugliest Keyblade have to get the best ability?
It's not fair.
his moronic kick attack is bullshit, thankfully you dont get jack shit for beating him
>thankfully you dont get jack shit for beating him
You can farm potions by beating him repeatedly, you can then sell them in Traverse Town for a lot of easy Munny.
Also, I like to farm Tech Points from Tidus so my level is in the 20s when I hit Traverse Town.
>so my level is in the 20s
Dude... what. The. Frick.
It only takes about 3-4 hours.
Also, I like doing a challenge run where I’m overlevelled for every major encounter. I’ve found that you need to find optimal farming spots in other worlds too if you don’t want your EXP gains to level out by the time you’re a few worlds in.
>challenge run
>Im overlevelled
Im not sure you know what "Challenge" means
The challenge came from making sure I stayed overlevelled. If you hit the 20s in Destiny Islands, things start to level out and balance themselves once you hit Agrabah.
It forced me to learn what the most optimal early and mid game farming spots were.
Pro-Tip: The Treetops area in Deep Jungle and the Black Fungus spawn in Agrabah are the two best early-mid game farming spots. Also, once you do the Pegasus Cup Time Trial, you can farm Squall and Yuffie as you head into the late game.
Like I said... boring
Just fricking play the game don't farm what is this it ain't stardew valley
>being overlevelled is a challenge now
what?
do a level 1 run instead
literally not a challenge in any way other than combatting boredom.
>I had to learn optimal farming strategies
or else what? face longer farming times? youre pissing away 4 hours on Destiny Island, you dont have to pretend your time is now magically more valuable
ulillillia........i kneel
surprised he can stay on destiny island that long, with all the blue water around
This is the most stupid thing I've ever heard of. Is the optimal play to have adventure start at night and then just uber grind all early grind or something?
>moronic kid plays game
>too moronic to defeat boss
>farms EXP until boss is easy
>continues game without having any skills
This is you, except you're proud of it.
Frick everyone else's shit, that's cool in an autistic kind of way and I respect that.
Boooooooooooring
There is no "challenge" in your challenge run. It is the literal opposite of challenge. It's a moron run for morons who are too bad at games to play them normally, let alone actual challenge runs.
The sooner you stop deluding yourself into thinking you're doing anything other than wasting your life away playing games the way a small toddler would play them, the sooner you might be able to stop being an actual moron.
>Also, I like to farm Tech Points from Tidus so my level is in the 20s when I hit Traverse Town.
Based and techpilled. It's the fasted EXP gain until, like, Halloween Town, too.
>jump
>1-2-3 combo halfway off the ground
>land
>1 hit
>jump left or right away from the getup attack
>rinse and repeat
blocked hits don't count towards when he will do the get up attack so if he blocks you or your attack goes through his counter animation, remember how many hits you landed to know when the get up attack is going to come
the dialogue on the island feels almost out of order, the way peoples moods shift and they address talking points from 3 lines ago, is it supposed to feel like a fever dream?
Just grind the three morons until you're level 99 and then push his shit in.
not a fun game until only 1 person is playing it
>riku is going to use the paopu fruit to get kairi for himself at the end of the game
>you also lose the right to call your gumi ship anything else than highwind
get fricked
No he never get kairi kair is for Sora chad
he even princess carry her
it's fricking over
you lost, riku.
That's her passed out against her will missing her heart too bro
good ole Roofie Riku
Ichigo vibes
Riku doesn't even have a thing for Kairi, he is just being an edgy b***h and is trying to get a rise out of Sora.
But lets be honest, they like eachother more than either likes Kairi.
That race was a ton of bullshit, but I at least reloaded several times to win it
Useless early game party members aside, why havent more games copied KH1s formula? I like that level ups gives you substantial tools for your kit. I love unlocking something that makes me go from "holy shit kid have you ever swung a sword in your life" to "youre fricking dead when I pop"
>KH1
>useless party members
lol. Lmao.
Party members utterly break the game if you know how to customise them properly. Goofy and Ariel in particular are hilariously broken, to the point where they can have a higher DPS than Sora.
you accidentally a word.
Alice in Wonderland is CBT primarily due to Early game Donald having 1 HP and Goofy just fricking around with no major abilities
Always get Thunder from Olympus for AoE so you aren't dealing with 6 enemies at once.
I beat Wonderland in 30 minutes on proud with late bloomer choices. git gud
They quickly realized that locking shit like Scan and Guard behind level ups wasn't a good system
>he didn’t use Slapshot as a makeshift guard
Never gonna make it
I love how you don't get much of anything for beating him, its just there to reinforce Sora's inferiority problems on the players themselves.
Its clever.
That’s true, although farming the Riku duel AND the race is a good way to get a lot of cash early because you can just sell the potions and Pretty Stones.
Jump over him
I played these games a couple of years ago and they're just ok, literally final fantasy for little kids
Little Fantasy haha man's playing Littlw Fantasy for babies!
by far the hardest fight in the whole game
The way KH1 put "superbosses" in the tutorial area that you can't return to later was absolute genius. Made the gameplay immediately engaging instead of being 30 hours of tutorial slog before getting to the good combat like in most JRPGs and action games, and also hammered in fundamentals for strong players so that the rest of the game could also be challenging on Expert/Proud without being too frustrating.
The simple fact of the matter is that KH1 is a masterclass in game design, from progression, to level design, to enemy design and every other aspect. It’s a near perfect game and basically the textbook game on how to make an ARPG.
Considering that the other KH games weren’t anywhere near as tightly designed, I often wonder if it was a fluke. There’s a certain something in KH1 that the other games never quite captured to the same degree.
Anybody else also feel that the ending statement in KH1 hasn't been answered by the sequels.
"Remember Sora you are the one that will open the door to light"
Really interesting like there is something more...
I don't feel like KH2 having riku and Sora go back to the islands was really "opening the door to light" felt too plain
I think the whole point of KH1 was to ape the "Super Mario 64" template of exploring a world in a 3D environment right down to finding secrets you'd otherwise be oblivious to if you don't journey off of the beaten path.
KH1 still has plenty of flaws, like the terrible level design and progression in some worlds, especially the early ones where the way to progress the story is to randomly walk in circles between different zones until a cutscene is triggered.
>tell my young kid to try KH, completely forgetting that said kid is awful at figuring out where to go
>manages to get past twilight town with a little help on where to go
>literally can not do the gummi ship section, dies every time
not what i was expecting
I'm not at all a pro gamer but I always found the gummi ship sections easy to the point of being boring. I don't even bother upgrading my ship until very late game. I wonder how many other youngins will hit a wall with KH1. I want the franchise to continue and for that it needs new blood.
I wouldn't say it's a masterclass, the game is clunky as frick and filled with a lot of issues. But I will say it's basically the last real Squaresoft game of its ilk, where you can tell the devs gave a frick about world design, how things segue into each other, dungeon-esque exploration and discovery and so forth. Everything felt big, and cared more about stuff to uncover while Sora readily grew from a kid with a stick to a magic knight that can obliterate the field with some heavy costs.
You may not take me at my word, but Kingdom Hearts 1? It's a fricking Mana series successor that Dawn of Mana failed to be, just lacking the multiplayer co-op aspect and multi-weapon/class stuff.
>clunky as frick
I don’t get this meme. I remember playing the game for the first time a few years back and having a blast right then and there.
it's playable certainly, but Sora's jumps are weird, his ledge grabs can be inconsistent, the air game is nonexistent until very late game and he feels like he's got weights in his clown shoes. it all works within the context of the game by itself, but I guess later stuff spoiled me.
All of just screams to me a failure to adjust. It’s not like the controls are totally alien in comparison to later entries, you just gotta mess around for a bit until you get the flow going. I also vastly prefer KH1’s combat in comparison to 2’s.
tbh Khs initial clunkiness works in its favor much harder than kh2 and 3. Sora does feel kinda shitty before he gets his spells and abilities, which is why it feels so good to go from shlumpy shitty sora to Sora Destroyer of Worlds. The climb isnt as strong in 2 or 3 which is why a lot of people get filtered by bosses where SLAMMING X doesnt cut it, whereas KH1 most bosses require some sort of brain activity
Criminal that none of the other games let you fight them again as a legitimate super boss, would have been kino
How do I even get this fight. I just beat the shit out of all 3 of them individually
you gotta talk to tidus.
do you get anything good for beating this
No. It's just absolutely impossible bullshit.
>constant chasing, zero stops
>no abilities
>wakka constantly throwing balls and even if you do manage to hit them, they just fly off and don't hit anyone
>can't do jack shit without trading hits
>jumping does frick all
>even if you do manage to get tidus and selkie down, you won't be able to defeat wakka because you can't get close to him and his balls won't hit him if you try to knock them back at him
Yeah wakka's big bouncing balls flying around the Arena is just a headache
LET’S GET HIM
>first time proud mode
>got cure and aero
Welp, there goes the difficulty. Donald is still useless and is dead every battle. Wish I could keep Tarzan since Goofy manages to stay alive unless it's a boss.
Are Sora and Riku the gayest, or is it Axel and Saix?
Riku and Sora are peak brotherhood. Axel and Saix probably rim each other.
>getting filtered by a game for 6 year olds
It's haaaaaaaaaard
ERM, ANON, I DON'T SEE A COPYWRIGHT DISNEY/SQUARE ENIX IN YOUR SCREENSHOT! NOMURA-SAN AND BOB IGER ARE STARVING BECAUSE OF YOU!
This game is so confusing to start with. First there's the stupid cutscene in the water or some shit, then the Disney princess stained glasses start taking to you, then you get to choose two weapons but only get one, then there's a cryptic personality test. I haven't even leftyhe main island yet and I already feel like I've fricked myself and should start over.
>then you get to choose two weapons but only get one
Clearly you can't read, it says pick the first weapon, give up the second. That just changes when you get abilities. Sword for getting strength and such earlier, staff for MP, shield for defense. You get every ability eventually no matter what, only thing exclusive is taking the staff can net you more MP than anything else.
The personality test just sets how your xp scales through out the game. Morning to level up faster early game, dead of night to level up faster in the end. Midday is just consistent. Neither changes nearly enough for you to worry.
And even if it did just play the fricking game. What is it with people being completely neurotic about shit in video games these days
>only thing exclusive is taking the staff can net you more MP than anything else.
Taking the shield gives you an extra item slot.
>What is it with people being completely neurotic about shit in video games these days
No idea, but it's killed replayability in games because devs are catering to the "well I'm only gonna play it once, so I'll use a guide to minmax and get all the secrets" crowd
throngs of enemies in empty spaces
fat guys in empty spaces
minerals in empty spaces
travel in vast galaxies
Does the classic soundtrack mod work for the steam version? I never got the EGS version
>classic soundtrack
What's different?
The soundtrack, anon.
1.5 has a 'remixed' soundtrack for 1 that's different to the original one.
For example, classic:
New:
Huh, I never noticed. It's pretty subtle compared to what a lot of games with redone soundtracks do
There's other tracks that you can really tell. Dearly Beloved sounds pretty different.
Yeah, but once you hear it it's really hard to not hear it, especially if you've listened to the original tracks for a lot.
In general, the 1.5 tracks are more melodic and mellow, while the originals a bit harsher and punchy.
Another easy example:
and
I personally really prefer the original one.
>Sora and Kari still haven't kissed yet.
I hate this series so much.
>still remembers him even when she forgets
>he just doesn't do anything
fricking nomura!
ew kissing is gay
I keep getting filtered by those fricking hippos in tarzan land
the tarzan level is ridiculously short if you know what to do and where to go
Replaying, I'm surprised how short every world has been. I swear when I was a kid it'd take me 2 days per world.
Why do people pretend KH1 is even remotely as good as KH2?
Nostalgia.
muh dogshit platforming
KH1 has the better story and Sora isn't as moronic. KH2 obviously has the better gameplay though.
There's different reasons why they're both great.
KH1 is a perfect game
CAN'T say the same for the rest
i think, qualitative, it's better than KH2, it just looks better, but KH2 has better gameplay
KH1 has perfect gameplay and progression!
combat wise of course it isnt as good as 2 but it's still a great game.
KH1 is obviously the better game. Story, music, exploration, secrets, characters, worlds, etc.
KH2 had a better combat system, at the cost of literally everything else, namely level design. Worst part is the combat isn't even that amazing. People put it up there with DMC and NG and it isn't even close. Organization fights are dogshit.
Because it is. KH2 is a sidegrade, not an upgrade.
>KH1 pros
Better story pacing
Better VFX
Better world design
More of an attempt to integrate RPG mechanics
Better enemy design
>KH1 Neutral
Slower, more deliberate combat design
>KH1 Negatives
Gummi Ship fricking sucks
Worse bossfights
The design of the RPG systems mean you can frick yourself over with bad/hard ability selection and EXP curve without even realizing it
Atlantica
Dogshit camera controls pre-Final Mix
>KH2 Pros
Gummi Ship fricking owns now
World traversal is fast
New movement abilities feel fantastic to use
Boss design is fantastic
Better cutscene direction
Most of the combat abilities are on set checkpoints now so your level choices at the start don't frick you out of cool stuff
Synthesis is less annoying
More interesting world selection
Drive as a resource is cool
Reaction commands are cool
>KH2 Neutral
Faster, floatier combat design leads to a much more "action game" feel, which isn't good or bad as much as it is different
Camera being pulled out fricks with the scale of things
>KH2 cons
Drive form grinding to get movement abilities is unironically one of the single worst things they've done in the series
World design is shit now because of the aforementioned, literally just a bunch of flat hallways beyond ONE side area in FM+
Enemy design isn't made to handle Sora expanded moveset, so in 95% of cases mob enemies just cannot touch you unless you're moronic or fighting CoR variations, turning a good chunk of the game into a mashfest
Antiform is cool but also moronic because it punishes you for using the new main mechanic (no, having a bunch of parry frames does not make it any easier to handle for an unexpecting player with no practical way to practice or anticipate antiform)
Story pacing is worse
Atlantica
Cloud has his Advent Children outfit
Donald and Goofy are fricking USELESS now
>KH1 has neatly-crafted worlds but sora's arthritis makes them a chore to traverse
>KH2 Sora learns how to use his legs but now everything is fight corridors
peak monkey's paw.
I find Sora’s movement is fine once you get high jump. Until then, you can use air hits to extend your air time and make trickier jumps.
I’ve played far jankier games. Especially from around 2002.
my only real complaint with movement in KH1 is the amount of startup your jump has, just feels like his clown shoes are filled with cement.
>Atlantica
I've never understood the extreme amounts of hatred that it gets in both versions. Swimming controls are a bit crusty in the original, but it doesn't take long to get used to. KH2 Atlantica is just a harmless rhythm game; the worst you could say is that the actual songs aren't particularly difficult, but I don't think that warrants listing it as a negative.
Besides that, I more or less agree with everything on here. I vastly prefer KH1's slower paced combat over 2, but that's more of a subjective opinion than an objective one.
I completely agree. It's so weird watching people seethe for years when those levels never bothered me at all.
But the Ursula boss fight in COM makes me rage.
I'll always love CoM Atlantica purely because the first time I played this was my first enemy card.
And what a playthrough it was.
I love KH1 Atlantica because it actually has really good level design and atmosphere and Ariel is literally the best party member in the game.
2’s Atlantica isn’t badly designed or anything, but its small scope is disappointing and the original songs are extremely cringey. It’s the cringe factor that makes 2’s Atlantica a struggle. Nothing else.
Is the only reason people truly love KH is for the real time combat and music?
Cerberus was kicking my ass but I finally conquered him at level 10 feels good bros! I'm having a blast!
I never played KH3.
What was so bad about it gameplay wise? IDC about that story.
It's really good gameplay wise.
Oh. I heard it was more floaty than KH2.
Neither of them. It is. KH3 has classic Osaka team problems: eg Crit is kind of meme, you get oneshot offscreen a lot until you get once/second, and aerial combat feels completely weightless because you can basically have permanent airtime.
A lot of the big issues were fixed in patches, but in base KH3 you couldn't cancel anything. Nowadays, you can cancel fricking everything because of the Item glitch so the game is actually pretty fun. Especially with mods like ReMind Ability Integration giving you a replacement for that godawful first attack early on.
KH3s real issue is that the story is almost entirely filler and kind of shitty. Its not even fun-stupid like DDD, its just stupid.
Nothing, it has the second best gameplay in the entire series.
Attractions were OP at launch, but they've fixed it. All of the level 1 superboss fights I've watched are just spamming air step, it doesn't look very challenging or interesting, unlike KH2 having a bunch of cool strats for individual superbosses.
These are all the problems why people shit on KH3 at launch. Majority of these are all fixed with mods
>No critical mode
>No proper damage scaling at Lvl1 to force you to use the shit food mechanic
>Too floaty and weightless with gravity, combos etc, the game's combat overall isn't as snappy as 1 and 2
>Excessive endlag on fricking everything, meaning you can't cancel moves properly
>Blocking is inconsistent somehow
>Attractions are shit and forced on you, cannot turn them off
>Summons turned into shit minigames instead of being integrated as part of your moveset
>Limits being turned into shit cutscenes instead of being integrated as part of your moveset
>Shotlocks do too much damage and balanced poorly
>Flowmotion is very slow and barely does damage so you rarely have incentive to use it
>Keyblade switching has forced built in delay instead of being snappy and instant
>Boss design very hit and miss. Most of them are gimmick fights so the only good ones were the humanoid ones (aquanort, org etc)
>No proper Org XIII fights, you had shitty half baked ones that had less moves than the KH2 story vers
>Awful enemy design with how you get hit offscreen constantly by large groups and some enemies not having proper startup frames/animations (unversed especially bad with this)
>No superbosses apart from that shit reskinned heartless
>No Coliseum
>Toy Story world too much of a gimmick world with the robots
>Frozen is a shit world
>Big Hero world does nothing with the space and is a meme world
>Nomura HUD portraits replaced with tech demo-tier 3D renders
>Food mechanic is completely garbage and can be completely ignored unless you're doing Lvl1 because Lvl1 has no proper damage scaling
Damage scaling is tied to forms
Time to game. +staff -sword
Doing a magic run in KH1 made me hate magic in KH2 when I used to be indifferent.
Kingdom Hearts (the first one)? More like HOME
Most people that hate KH1 gameplay have not unlocked dodge roll, sliding dash, sonic thing, cure, combo plus, blitz, etc etc.
They hate the early part where you can only jump and hit a couple times. It's still a fun part.
I think the level progression is genuinely great in KH. You really do feel like you're getting more powerful over time.
Zoomers aren't use to progressive in games.
They want to be powerful at the start and powerful at the end.
damn, zoomer derangement syndrome strikes again...
Reminder that Sora wasn't the chosen wielder of the Keyblade and is therefore a fraud and a hack.
>Sora gets shit done
>all the chosen keyblade users are useless dumbasses
3D will never make sense
ALMOST like the keyboard is deliberately choosing useless morons you stupid frick
That literally makes him more worthy
>riku is such a b***h the keyblade would rather switch masters than follow fate
seethe ricuck
Riku somehow lost to this supposed fraud despite letting Ansem anally fist him with darkness.
>be 12
>have to fight malificent and dark riku back to back
>struggle for hours
>little brother turns off PS2 after beating dark riku
>never play the game again
to be young
Can anyone check in their install directory in the STEAM folder if the mp4 files can be played? I'm trying to figure out for hours why my video files are not playing in game and just showing a colored screen.
If you're on a Steam Deck, Proton has trouble with FMV and pretty much always has.
Yes I'm on Linux but I have not seen anyone yet that has the same problem as me. For me it's showing a sort of colored no signal kind of screen instead of black. In fact most people say the video files just work on Linux if you use the Steam Deck mode and if it doesn't work for them it just shows black.
So they are probably encrypted to begin with which means I have zero leads and I basically wasted 60 bucks. God damn it, I should have just emulated the PS3 version.
Did you try experimental proton?
Yeah I have tried the newest 5 options. This is by the way what I am seeing, literally no one else on the internet has the same problem for some reason. Maybe this has something to do with me playing the japanese version but I don't know why that would be relevant.
Is that that TV thing also probably is the Japanese version let's be real.
Fricking unreal if Valve actually converted the video files to be Linux compatible for the english version but not the japanese one.
They might have but idk where people see the option for the Japanese version tbh
When you select japanese language in properties it just redownloads the entire game because the versions are entirely separate. Though on steam db there is a depot for the japanese version for Steam Deck so it's unlikely that this is the case.
They probably prioritized fixing English but not Japanese then weird.
I would think a lot of Japan has steam decks.
I guess tomorrow I will download the english release and see if this is the reason, maybe I can just copy paste the english videos into the japanese release.
Alright it was a codec problem after all. Just downloaded ge proton which includes property codecs and it works. Well... wouldn't be the linux experience if I didn't have to work a lot to make a game run.
I couldn't play it on windows but it played in game. Saw the mp4 and was like "shit I can just watch this here right?" But apparently I am missing some shit
I'm filtered to this day.
for me it was the final riku fight that filtered me from ever finishing the game
I simply cheesed my way through the game as Soraby not picking sleights ever, only HP and CP. I kept two or three 0s at the very front of my deck, and stacked plain attack cards over and over while using hi potions to restore the cards I lost from stacking. I cannot finish the game in either version if I choose to get sleights.
Went 4 - 1 total with the race included. I fricking hate Riku
Okay, I believe you!
How do you get "filtered" by a children's game let alone get filtered by the FRICKING combat tutorial in KH1?
KH1 is unironically a souls game. You never played it (and if you did then it was on easy) trannimal poster.
The race against Riku, fighting the three kids at once, dealing with Riku's kickflip off the ground. The beginning of the game was channeling.
Also, I miss Destiny Islands. I keep hoping we get to walk around in as a level again in a future game. We've spent more time on fake Destiny Islands now thanks to Chain of Memories and Recoded than we did the real thing.
God I wish that was me
I HATE YOU
it's scripted
It's not, I farmed 99 potions just on the island in expert mode
Also people ITT fricking losing to the jobber trio lmao learn to zone and parry
Make us a webm of you being an expert then, moron. All you need is OBS and webm for morons
I'm phoneposting, just git gud and watch/listen for tells instead of spamming attack like a moron, after a while you LV up and get so much ATK you can just skip the fight.
>after a while you LV up and get so much ATK you can just skip the fight.
you didn't beat the fight
How do you think I leveled up moron, by grinding those homosexuals that don't even give me items except when grouped up?
Don't reply to me every again, you're not worth my time.
so yeah we invented a new type of ram.
just jump and attack, jump attack once and he will do that foot kick, move away and dont attack and then jump attack him again. You guys are shit at recognizing patterns
Jap Dub or English Dub?
I would say the english one is superior, having never listened to the jp dub. that is usually my rule. games get dubs, anime gets subs.
Jap, play English later to have a good laugh and to listen to the legit Disney characters. Sora's EN voice is nice but it loses on the himbo energy JP voice has, while Riku goes from cool friend that teases you in JP to annoying pretentious motherfricker in EN.
Can you actually change the voice language in the steam release?
I wish someone made a mod that had English audio for all the Disney characters, and JP for everyone else.
Japanese voices are overall better but you miss out on the absolutely kino Ansen and Xemnas VA.
I did a proud run once years ago but in my replay I wanted to go normal. I remember proud mode being challenging but it wasn't that fun. Just lots of spamming magic in the end. I remember the KH2 hardest difficulty being way more fun and truly changing the gameplay fundamentally.
Does this shit run at 30 or 60 fps?
30
60
120
UNLIMITED
>cruised through KH1fm
>get way too fricking bored on Re:Com
>haven't touched KH2
Can I just skip CoM?
>get way too fricking bored on Re:Com
Well duh, you're supposed to play the superior GBA version.
CoM is unironically the most important story game in the series.
Goofy getting dementia really fricked me.
As long as you watch a cutscene compilation or something on YouTube, yes you can absolutely skip playing CoM.
I know they only kept it cause they already had a PS2 version to build off of, but that shit honestly should have be turned into a movie like some of the others did, the gameplay gets so boring after the first few worlds and just devolves into savescumming the overpriced moogle packs for 9s and 0s because sleights become useless in boss fights since bosses are just nonstop card breaking with 24+ sleights or 0s.
Re:CoM gameplay is not enjoyable, but important shit happens in it so just watch a cutscene compilation for Sora and Riku's story.
I mentally blocked out her awful KH2 voice until I saw your message. Was her VA on fricking Ambien during recording sessions?
Denuvo?
>Inb4 buy it ya fricking gay
buy it ya fricking gay
>KH with subtitles
>Purposely denying yourself the fricking kino Disney characters VA work plus Sora, Ansem, etc.
Fricking disgusting. I've never even thought of someone doing this in my life once.
Jesus christ I know Ganker is full of braindead plebs but FRICK man have mercy
>preferring the english version with censorship and low budget impersonators because disney VAs would have demanded literal millions plus perpetual royalties for even the smallest roles
2's atlantica was shit because it was a gay rhythm game. I made someone else play it.
I don’t know why people would play KH in anything other than English considering that the franchise has some of the greatest English dub work of all time that has characters being played by several Hollywood A listers.
The only exception I can think of is Aerith’s KH2 voice. Holy shit, it’s fricking awful. What were they thinking? Why’d they change it when her KH1 voice was literally perfect?
Frick off, you can play the game in English later now that you have the option. If Riku wasn't directed like garbage 2000s high school dropouts and was actually shown caring for Sora when they first meet in TT instead of being a snarky little shit perhaps KH2's ending would have hit closer to home, instead I got bamboozled by the awful EN dub and it ruined my experience. If people today can play subs with no issue then frick it.
that said, since this has been in PC for long enough is there a faithful translation of the script mod that is closer to the japanese script?
The ideas still came across to me even in Eng.
A challenge: Find one (1) anon who
>understands kh's batshit story
>likes it
>is not lying for attention
For all the invalid criticism of it being a ljust barely more lighthearted jrpg. Sora starts racking up a body count fairly early. We flat out killed Clayton, and that’s like 3 hours in. And you’re still killing monsters and animals before that.
I mean Clayton isn't actually killed by Sora, his heartless just crushes him.
Sora never directly kills any "human" characters while theya re still human till CoM with this scene 3.30:00 to 3.32:45
Unlike something like say, Yakuza for example, KH has no qualms about killing and outright malicious murder. Which I find hilarious considering that the former is about organized crime, whereas the latter is about going on a swashbuckling adventure with Disney characters.
Even though he's childish and the embodiment of light and hope Sora kills more than most superheroes. It's weird to think about.
It’s not like it makes him less moral. He’s an adventurer more than anything. Not his fault some chumps roll up and say they’re going to kill him or his nakama to get their way. It’s arguable he’s doing the most moral thing by putting them down
Glad to see people talking about it now that the remaster is out, my PC got some issues a while back so I lost the folder with my pirated EGS copy (alonside all of my emulators, still mad I got cut off on Xenogears right at the part where I was starting to enjoy the story) so I'll probably just wait until I get money to buy the Steam release. Fricking hate most modern software but cloud saves are really reliable for this type of thing.
What is with the bizarre atmosphere of the first game, and why do none of the other KH games replicate it? It is just so eerie and dreamlike. I know it's a buzzword, but it genuinely feels extemely liminal.
I agree, to this day only the first Gravity Rush seemed to replicate that sort of vibe imo.
There was a lot more focus on the story, characters, and atmosphere than the other games.
For me it had the vibe of not just childhood's end but beut being sad about that ending. Friends are growing more distant, the world has expanded but is new and filled with both danger and unfamiliarity, and the worlds being consumed 1 by 1 makes for a undercurrent of existential dread that rarely needs to be directly touched upon..
CoM was more direct in its dread coming from its focus on memory and identity.
While KH2 focused on loss and replying to KH1 themes with with optimistic outcomes.
For example in KH1 Riku and Sora's friendship decays rapidly in the transition to their teenage years ending with them coming to blows, then after Riku accepting that he was wrong but only getting to act after with heroic sacrifice.
KH2 follows this up with Riku having spent last last year mostly Isolated from his old friends believing that the actions he has done have made him unworthy of being accepted again. To which Sora, who had gotten over any hard feelings by the time of getting Oathkeeper KH1, welcomes him back into the fold entirely and they have a proper reconciliation in the end.
>Stories and environments were more abstracted
>Elements of danger were more varied
>More focus on the cast being disoriented by their journey instead of just rolling with it
>Disney world themes actually tied into the story and created continuing plot threads instead of being one-off movie recaps.
List goes on and on.
kh1 has ps1 game energy
Traditional Disney employees were involved with the production of KH1 and had input on the atmosphere, art, sounds, animations etc. It was an actual collab between Square and Disney
CoM and onward was SE only with Disney suits just saying yes/no to what world's and characters can be used
I think them pairing down the lore hurt the series and how dreamlike it was. Like they started to over-explain shit.
I get that they made Cloud an advent children caricature but what is the base for making Squall into a levelheaded big brother type of character?
I think his whole KH arc boils down to his world getting raped by heartless and he feels immense guilt because he couldn't do anything to stop it, hence why he changed his name
That’s what Squall evolves into at the end of his character arc in FFVIII.
Fun fact, in JP KH1 when he first meets Sora and calls him a child and Sora gets offended he replies with warukattana which is his catchphrase from FF8.
It kinda pisses me off that Sora is never acknowledged despite having the best feats of anyone shown in the series. He is always just naturally treated as a decent fighter at best. Especially cucks like Hercules acting like hot shit is annoying.
The series is desperate to treat Sora like a weak underdog but he's just not, last time he felt like one was way back in Chain of Memroies. It really came to a head in KH3. Characters were outright bullying him, it was so weird. He was the only one that could save the hurting people... but he's also a weak dunce that can't do anything. Which is it? In actuality they should all be embarrassed at their constant jobbing and feel guilty because Sora has to do everything for them. I felt especially bad for Aqua, she was outright humiliated, it was borderline ryona.
>everyone wants Sora to be ready for the final fight
>they also all suck so fricking bad that every single one of them NEEDS Sora to save their asses in every single individual fight
At least ReMind lets you tackle the battles AS the characters to technically give a conclusion for them, but then they all suck compare to Sora's kid besides murderboner Roxas, so it just further highlights how fricking stupid it is to dunk on the reality-warping dingus
>compare to Sora's kid
compared to Sora's kit, what the frick brain
>I felt especially bad for Aqua
To be fair, Aqua is kinda the opposite in the way that she is always treated as a super strong character but feat wise she is completely pathetic.
That's really interesting. I didn't notice before but yeah she's exactly like a bizarro-Sora. The characters all speak so highly of her and the journal entries are trying their best to fluff her up. It's your job to save Terra and Ventus! Heart of steal! Yes ma'am! I want to train with Aqua! You'd think she's the main character. But she falls flat on her face and pisses herself at every turn.
>but feat wise she is completely pathetic.
What about FEET wise? That's how I like to measure my female characters worth
I mean shes not dethroning Namine but still
They should have had him respond with "whatever" in english.
Is it possible to beat Squall in the 1st encounter at Traverse Town btw? always wondered this. and if you get anything from it
Yes, and it's just an ether.
You get a slightly different cutscene (and 30 exp), Sora just falls down from exhaustion instead and Squall explains Yuffie he went easy on him. Also, when you leave the town with D&G, you get an extra Elixir.
KH is a hard game
I know a lot of people like that they brought in a fair amount of the celebrity Disney actors. But coming in fresh for the first time in years, a lot. And I mean a lot is incredibly phoned in outside of like 1 or 2 of them. Some of the line sound like they came in for one take and then rushed out because they had more important things to do.
That's how a lot of english VA's sound because they don't know how to act. Unless they act in theater performances.
No it’s probably because most of them gave the reasonable answer when asked to do this game of
>sure if the price is right on that paystub.
>he thinks theater actors can act
this game is woke garbage
This
also how come Ganker doesn't care that Goofy is black, hmm?
Goofy is indian.
Counterpoint
>R NIG ALSO
What did pooh mean by this?
>he also has a bell
the memes just write themselves kek
Man those upscaled textures look awful.
They really did just Waifu2X this shit up without much consideration for how any of it works, and it's going to be retroactive to the Epic versions too. Fans are gonna need their own RE1 Remake style re-upscaler.
the first few kingdoms(?) of KH1 has you going from room to room back and forth just to find the one room where the story specific event is happening. You really arent missing out on much tbh.
>t. filtered zoomie
anyone have any luck running the game smoothly at high framerates? anything above 120fps for me is really fricky and stuttery and keeping refresh rate on breaks the gamespeed for me, i know theres gotta be a way to play this smoothly at above peasant framerate
The score?
PROCLAIM It
I'm still mad they changed Kairi's VA.
>her team gave her drugs at 15 and got her addicted
>becomes an alcoholic too
She's the same age as my sister
how do they run on steam deck?
Pretty godo. Ironically it seems the windows players have lots of problems while for the linux chads the game just works.
I'm getting filtered by the Hercules cup.
Cloud just keeps spamming his fricking dash attack.
Just block it. Also use Stop.
I'm really torn on retrying BBS and DDD. I finished BBS with one characters and played DDD to mid point. Both many years ago.
I'm honestly just gonna wait for major rebalance mods before I ever tackle BBS or DDD again. I fricking HATE Command Deck gameplay and especially how stilted the entire system can be where it's encouraged to load up your cheesiest i-frame-yist shit, fire, dodge to reload.
if you can this bad, you will fall apart
i beat the games, even a certain time traveling homosexual's first iteration, and it was torture. mainline games, no issues besides the usual trouble spots for folks, but Command Deck game design kneecaps your ass so fricking hard. never sat down with ReCoded though
>I fricking HATE Command Deck gameplay
Preach it. I managed to tolerate Re:CoM gameplay to at least finish Sora's story, but I couldn't even make it halfway through Aqua's story because I did not enjoy the command deck gameplay (and I didn't give a shit about Aqua as a character)
Better Battle System fixes a lot of the issues with BBS. You can cancel every command and action in the game which makes it a lot more bearable.
DDD is probably the worst rendition of the command deck ever made and fusing dream eaters is cancer.
I still don’t understand people who bring lighthearted or juvenile makes it inherently bad. Honestly I felt more embarrassed last month playing that guardians of galaxy than KH.
I get a kick out of how people make a big deal about the KH2 censorship of Xigbar and the Pirates guns, but then no one even raises an eyebrow at the hunter from Tarzan in one shooting you repeatedly like a fricking butthole with a hunting rifle.
I don’t understand what you’re trying to argue? There is no issue with him having a gun trying to kill you. He’s a bad guy ina video game. And like most antagonists he gets his righteous comeuppance. It’s a non issue.
KH2 got censored to remove the usage of the flintlock firearms and Xigbar's gun, all replaced with weird crossbow stuff. Will even put a gun to his head like the film, but in the censored version he just stands off to the side threatening to die somehow or another as if he was gonna jump in the sea. KH1's Tarzan stuff never got a gun censorship in later versions.
Any mods to restore Kairi's pantsu?
I unironically like 2's prologue.
Me too, I just played through it the first time and it felt really nostalgic and emotional. When all Roxas's friends forget him, that hit hard.
Didn't think this was a controversial opinion any more
Only KH I've beaten on critical. The slower pace and less gimmicks feel better to play than attraction, shotlock, flowmotion spam.
>you can just choose not to play that way
Yeah.
Yeah i love kh1 proud, i think its a perfect difficulty setting its not annoyingly difficult restart 30 times but you still have to focus on equipment, theres decent difficulty spikes to keep you on edge, and you still eventually get to feel really powerful which is what you’re looking for at the end of an rpg. Its genuinely my favorite combat jrpg game of all time and i think i would have liked kh1 a lot less if i played on normal. Critical kh2 is annoying as frick and barely feels like an rpg just some budget god of war game on some annoying unfair difficulty setting.
the frick was her problem?
Hasn't been impregnated by me (yet)
Cheeky brat. Roxas should have corrected her right then and there
To the pc lads out there is this viable with m&k? I feel like scrolling through the action menu with the mousewheel could be more intuitive than doing a monkey ass claw grip to use the dpad + ls in combat but idk how well made the pc controls are.
I doubt they put much effort into MKB since the game is fundamentally designed around using a gamepad
I don't think in the 20+ years I've been on the internet that I've seen someone say k&m or MKB instead of KBM
I’ve been saying it for 32 years. Sounds like a (you) problem
NTA but you're the only person in this universe that says kbm like that. I've been using the internet for 20 years
I've said it like that forever and I'm almost 40. It was a pretty common way to say it in the old ut/quake/cs days
>20 years
>can’t capitalize I in Internet
I Don't Need To Capitalize Every First Letter In Every Word, Anon. Fricking Idiot.
Why are you reacting like a young, dumb and underage waste of cum and oxygen? Anon was just helping you out.
All I'm Saying Is That There's No Reason To Capitalize The "I" In Internet. I'm Just Helping Him Out.
You’re acting like a passive aggressive little b***h more like.
Man, Lighten Up. It's Just A Meme, After All.
you're right, it's about 1am and im dead tired
the camera is 100x faster with kbam
i'm doing a controller run but i'm curious to do another run with kbam later cause it's a completly different experience
All I know is I took a screenshot with keyboard and the game switch to kb + m so seems to be a thing at least... even asks if you use a QWERTZ keyboard of all things... and AYERT or whatever it was
The race was always bullshit but Riku can catch these hands any day.
is running or rolling faster in kh1
Heheh, casual. I already beat him 32-29
destroy children
I love how violent ReCOM was compared to the rest of the KH games at this time.
yeah it was cool
i never beat sephiroth in kh1 as a kid
I never beat fricking riku in Hollow Bastion until middle school
THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE TAKING KAIRI'S HEART
I remember fighting him and being fricking scared that his HP bar never went down.
Which friendship between Sora's group and Disney characters felt most genuine? 95% it feels just like Sora is forced to be part of the story so the relationships feel equally forced.
He faced down a guy with a gun and a magic inivisble chameleon for Tarzan Jane and some monkeys, so he must've liked those frickers a lot.
Oo eee ahh ahh means...heart.
Hercules definitely
Three games worth of friendly competition and more re4alzed adventuring before tackling the full titan group in KH3.
Hercules benefits from not having heaps to do either, they get a lot of theoretical down time between tournaments and shit where other worlds are RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW K THANKS BYE
Herc, Aladdin, Ariel, Winnie the Pooh, Tron
I also think Sora's friendship with Jack Sparrow is really nice.
definitely winnie the pooh
Obsidian Ring or Ability Stud?
>this was a 30 year old man in 2004
Yeah, they looked much younger back then.
cid looks 45 there
Millennials wish they looked that good.
Cid SHOULD be 45 I hate when you look up a clearly grown adult anime character and it's like oh they're 20 lol.
Like Team Rocket being 16 or some shit, it's bullshit
>that hairline
>30
lol. lmao even
you can't even see his hairline what are you talking about?
ability stud for ap
Justify playing games literally meant for children, games with actual disney characters in them, when you are an adult man.
They have far better gameplay than DMC, every souls and soulslike game, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden, Zelda, and every other action rpg and closely-related genre games combined.
Caring what other people play instead of playing what you like is a sign that you're still a child, homosexual.
They’re really solidly constructed ARPGs with quite a lot of depth to their mechanics and encounter design. Defenders in KH1 alone have a lot of cool little design elements.
>can deflect their fireballs right back at them
>can use the opposite elements of their shield breath attack to both temporarily stun them and get some tech points
>just flatten them outright with Gravity
>DPS their ass to death with good ol’ Aero.
>>can use the opposite elements of their shield breath attack to both temporarily stun them and get some tech points
Wait, what the frick?
Yeah, it’s pretty sick.
https://x.com/biazingwaters/status/1800940502499373301?s=46&t=hHMkRZSCKFxMe1Gq_aHQhg
KH1 has tons of cool little interactions like this. Did you know that the Fat Bandits have an item drop that can only happen if you kill them after they inhale for their fire breath attack?
>>can use the opposite elements of their shield breath attack to both temporarily stun them and get some tech points
I didn’t even know that you can do that, what the hell?
She's definitely guilty of having such a delectable dicky
do the steam releases work on parallels? I know I know, >anon uses a mac. Don't have the time for a pc build atm. I appreciate any info.
Rekt
Should I start on proud mode? Also which of the three "elements" to pick and discard?
if you're familiar with action games and decent at them, you'll be fine on Proud mode. you can always just go grind if you get stuck somewhere, but you probably won't ever have to do that. As for the "elements", I took the sword and dropped the staff, but it's really just a matter of personal preference. read their descriptions and do whatever seems right for you
Never pick sword as what you want. Always pick it as a sacrifice. Either pick shield or staff. Shield gets you defensive abilities faster. Staff nets you more MP for late game. Sword is a scam.
>choosing based on a guide for an optimal level up path instead of whatever feels right
anon, what happened to your heart?
I picked sword when I was 13 and then sword again when I was played a KH1FM in japanese on PCSX2 in 2012. I think I picked shield on the ps3 release of 1.5 and I think staff on the ps4 release. I have played these games many times over the past 18 years.
yeah, shield is a must for proud or critical, but I really hate not picking sword since you get the gap closer so fast, it makes the game miles better for me
I picked Sword and ditched shield on proud mode. I did just fine.
Sword staff shield are all viable picks, do whatever you like. I think mathmatically staff is the best just because mp is the best stat in the game. Sora is an overpowered mage and all of his strongest physical abilties use mp but i missed having critical strike until an absurd level dropping sword and shields extra item slots are pretty nice so do whatever.
I am being filtered on Critical Mode in KH2 like 10 hours in. The small enemies are maddening with how they randomly clip you for max hp. I don't really want to play Normal/Proud since it probably feels as bad as KH1 did and the lowest one would be too easy to enjoy as well, feels bad to suck.
Proud is better for the data fights since they are bullshit on critical
If they're like optional superbosses, I probably won't beat them all. I'll give them a go though, obviously.
That's what pushed me through Muland with those centaur guys and the fat heartless who one shot you, then Hades and lance heartless came around. I'll probably keep chipping away for a bit longer and hope the new abilities fix it.
Honestly yeah if you don't care too much about super bosses critical is fun. Otherwise proud I think would be more fun with the super bosses if you wanted to fight them. Shit maybe you can mod the game to switch your save to proud if needed now lol
You just need to push through. I remember getting filtered on the ship in the pirates of the caribbean world on critical and finally getting past it only for literally everything afterwards to be a complete breeze.
KH2 crit I don't fight anything except mandatory encounters until I get my spells and good abilities. Fire is the first one you get which is good for dealing with mobs as long as you don't use the finisher version of it. The next is Trinity Limit which is good for basically one hit ko'ing mobs in a room
A good thing to do is learn the 1-2, 1-2, 1-2-3 combo because using finishers too much on heartless/nobodies can do more harm than good since it blows them away and usually pushes them to use one of their bigger and more annoying abilities. Combos where you delay finishers can help you get them low enough so that you actually kill them with the finisher instead
Any essential mods for 1.5+2.5? I already know the one that swaps the palettes back for kh1.
Get Re:Fined.
i hate kh
NO MEDDLING WITH THE DISNEY WORLDS AND RUINING OUR IPS!!!
Riku sux
I dont suppose the nexus mods work on the steam version do they?
So there is no point in waiting for the games to get any cheaper without having to wait at least a year right? as cheap as they are going to be for quite a while?
Squeenix sucks dick at sale pricing. youll wait 2 years and get 15% off the moronic 100 something dollar pricetag. Buy it off Greenmangaming for 56ish bucks.
thank you, yeah was considering getting that deal right now, I have plenty to play but buying them wouldn't hurt, love the series anyway, (until 3 that is but I have yet to play its dlc)
have you checked greenmangaming? bought it there for 56 eurobucks
Yeah. I mean I just treat it like buying KH3 again for PC except oh I also got most of the other games too (or all with emulation)
You guys enjoying the games? I really want to pick up 1.5-2.5
hell yeah I've always enjoyed KH
if you're on the fence let me give you that last push you'll have a ton of fun with them
Should I do my 100% runs on the highest difficulty since I'm more likely to have to level up hard in them? Or does it make the end game bosses impossibly frustrating?
Or at that point do you even feel the difference in difficulty?
do 100% on max diff, high level triviliazes them
Nomura planned it all from the beginning
AH YOU FRICKER
You better play with Playstation icons or I will cut you.
(Except DDD you can play with Nintendo ones on that)
I absolutely adore kh1, i didn’t grow up with it. Played it when i was 24 and falling out of love with video games randomly on a whim and it reignited my love. Tried kh2 after and was bored out of my mind, dropped it at beasts castle. Anyone else? I really dont like how worthless the Disney worlds feel, or sora he seems more mature as a kid and even his childish dialogue fit better when hes a child lol. The combat is fine, i dont understand how anyone can consider it better than kh1. Its just a generic mash attack action game, cool? The organization 13 shit seems more embarrassing than the childlike adventure of the first game. Any other games worth trying in the series or will i just be a kh1 only stan?
KH2 shines in its endgame with final mix and level 1 crit run, without final mix it's inferior to even base 1.
both 1 and 2 are a 10/10 to me but i prefer 2FM for its gameplay. the only thing that it is missing for me is more platforming
Is KH2 shorter than KH1? I'm playing KH2 and each of the worlds is shockingly short. I've only played 12 hours and have done Twilight Town, Disney Castle/old timey Mickey Mouse world, Pirates, Hercules, Beast's Castle, Mulan and Halloween town already. This shit is flying right by.
Oh and finished the Aladdin world to, was KH1 this short too?
I don't remember them being short at all. Are you rushing it, maybe?
Not really no, I'm playing on Proud and
not stopping to grind or anything.
Oh that makes sense, glad to hear it.
I didn't skip cutscenes but I think the Roxas section took me the longest of all the worlds so far.
KH2 will have you revisiting the worlds later on with some remixed enemies and boss fights to spice things up.
I can't say for sure, because KH1 did not have skippable cutscenes before FM, but Roxas's section of 2 is roughly two-and-a-half to three hours if you include the cutscenes (and skip grinding for the watermelon), with less than forty-five minutes of gameplay if you skip them all. I assume if you skip all cutscenes and never die, 2 is arguably the shortest game in the saga.
Reminder to new CoM bros who just want to cheese through the best story:
Just build a deck entirely of fire magic cards and have your final few cards fire damage buffs. Legit plays itself and saves you a ton of pain if you hate the combat.
I hate to admit it but CoM filtered me, the combat never made any sense in my mind.
Sword shield staff and choose your xp distribution are such simple choices but more impactful than all trillion modern jrpg rpg trees deal 8% more damage blah blah blah
Why should I have to give up vital game functions at all? Imagine playing monster hunter with the great sword and they're like, yeah, either lose the guard, the dodge roll or the ability to charge your attacks. KH's combat is shallow as a puddle, give me everyting and MAYBE I won't get bored.
Anon, you get all the abilities you can when playing normally, just at different periods due to starting choices and growth rate. It’s an RPG, roll with it.
>KH's combat is shallow as a puddle,
The first game alone gives him you more options and choices than some action games made today. Shit, Aeroga is basically a defensive Spiral Swords that also adds DPS to all of your melee attacks and deflects projectiles automatically, which makes for a ton of ways in which you can approach enemies.
Stop and Graviga are also fun as frick to use. I think KH1 made magic some of the most fun to use in the series, especially with the different interactions they can not just with enemies but the level design as well.
>Shit, Aeroga is basically a defensive Spiral Swords that also adds DPS to all of your melee attacks and deflects projectiles automatically, which makes for a ton of ways in which you can approach enemies.
It also makes Ice Titan's projectiles bigger and unblockable because frick you
>Let's get rid of any Role elements in an RPG.
You sound like DSP.
It's a build/growth selection, not a limiter.
If you don't pick shield you don't get guard until, what, two thirds through the game? You have to deflect attacks with the wonky ocerhead swing. And there's no point in picking afternoon because by the time you hit the equilibrium you're ready to fight the final boss.
I'm so glad that I didn't know any of this when I was playing as a kid. Making those choices and wondering what they meant added so much mystery to the game.
The very first ability Shield gives you through leveling up in KH1 is Slapshot, a melee attack, but due to its super-quick startup, it makes it ideal for parrying enemy attacks and therefore it is a legitimate defensive option. Experiment a bit anon, it’ll do you wonders.
God KH1 is so good.
It is a perfect ARPG, something Square never managed to make again, and a fantastic Disney game, something Disney never managed to foster again. They got it right the first time and only the first time.
Still one of my faves even after all of these years.
I’d say the TWEWY duology also does a fantastic job of blending action and RPG together in a way that the RPG elements actually enhance the core combat.
TWEWY infamously destroyed every lower screen.
I still remember the stylus marks on my bottom screen
shame that TWEWY was best on DS even after all these years
I tried it on emulator to avoid permanently ruining my handheld but it sucks fricking balls there and the mouse hurt my wrist. As such I loathe TWEWY and will never play the sequel.
it really is such a god damn shame
all the ports destroyed the combat system. once you got the hang of controlling two characters and it clicked, it was impossible to put down
>TWEWY
>emulator
Oh, you poor soul. Also, get a screen protector.
And it was awesome.
Between Pokemon Ranger and TWEWY... that poor DS screen sure got a workout.
That's not Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword.
Guard's a comfort option. Unless you go tackling superbosses, and by that point you should have it unlocked same with the Dodge Roll, you REALLY don't need defensive abilities to beat the game so long as you know what you're doing. It's not like later titles where you pretty much have a multitude of options swarming you regardless of what you pick but Guard cheese breaks nearly everything.
I was waiting for Guard for a while in my KH1 playthrough, finally got it, tried it, then took it off and went back to teching hits instead, so I can safely say I won't care about missing it if I ever play it again
>playing kh1 for the first time several years ago
>squall kicks my shit in
>decide to replay 1 again instead of replaying 2 first for like the 4th time
>beat him without taking any damage at all
get fricked
So just how hard are level 1 runs anyway? I've beaten all the superbosses in 1FM and 2FM on the hardest difficulties, but I've always grinded to max level because I like the feeling of being complete and having all abilities at my disposal, and not being maxed out fricks up my ocd because it means there's always something to unlock still, but level 1 only runs would technically be at max level from a perspective and means I don't have to grind so that always made me attracted to the idea, once I finish my crit playthrough of 3 and Re:Mind's superbosses I plan to do a LV1 run of the mainlines from the beginning, with Kingdom Key only, so how hard would that be (not having Second Chance or Once More is one thing but no Guard in KH1 sounds really intimidating).
I've done it for KH2 in critical and it's really not that bad at all, the keyblade doesn't matter too much as you'll be doing min. damage regardless (which is still decent, as the game has a pity system for damage and I think critical has a multiplier for player damage).
Sure, you'll be dying in one/two hits a ton and some basic ass heartless encounters can become a big pain in the ass, but that's a part of the fun.
>KH1
Very hard as it's very punishing and you have to understand the game very well to not get filtered especially if you do an extra challenge of kingdom key only as that requires you to beat bosses in specific ways
This should probably be done last unless you know you have good knowledge of KH1 mechanics
>KH2
Not very hard at all so long as you make use of all your tools (summons, drives, magic etc). Kingdom Key only is also pretty fun
Most casuals will get filtered by the usual stuff like the pirates, tron tanks, pride lands etc
>KH3
Easier than 2 because of all the different shit you can spam. Upgrade system also makes Kingdom Key only easy too
Use food if you want extra dmg but I never bothered
>So just how hard are level 1 runs anyway?
KH1 ones are pretty hard but not that unreasonable, you have no access to any skills (including guard) bar Dodge Roll but you get at least two hits to survive from full HP even at lategame, as long as you have MP or items you're good to go
Also with damage storage which is a EXP Zero only thing, Magic (and Mushu) becomes way stronger
KH2 are arguably harder because you don't get access to Second Chance or Once More, which means any damage can be lethal, but you get a bit more HP as the game progresses from bonus levels (beating bosses, event fights, etc) and you have several tools in your arsenal to keep yourself alive and the game is balanced around Lv1 damage so it's not a slog
KH3 is the hardest one but that's mostly due to the game design, it works like 2's except mob fights will have enemies snipe you from offscreen with no forewarning, and damage isn't properly scaled so you'll likely play the most boring way possible, running away and spamming magic, that said Formchanges do raise your base damage a bit so there's that, but there isn't an incentive to fight offensively like the other two games have since you get formchange arrows even when you're using Thunder from a hundred miles away
1 level is hard
2 level 1 is mildly challenging
3 level 1 is mildly challenging
didn't do other ones
these games only start becoming truly difficult when you add further restrictions beyond level 1 because you have so many strong tools. but that's what also makes these runs fun, actually having a real use for the toolkit for once
started playing 1 for the first time on Proud, almost quit in the Tarzan world to change starting choices (apparently +sword -shield is pretty bad), but man, the game is a lot better after that, especially once you get Cure
The starting choices really don't matter, they're just there to encourage a bit of replayability.
that Tarzan boss almost made me drop the game the first time I played, it's fricking hard
I think the choices do matter.
Leaf Bracer and Second Chance have saved me tons of times thanks to getting them earlier from Shield.
Chamelon boss on proud is a shit show unless you start doing the short hop jump attack combos. Cancels so much animation lag and lets you potentially tech those eye lasers to save your life,
It helps if you can get Clayton in a corner
You can stunlock him there and you'll be mostly safe from the chameleons eye lasers
Yeah but its not always easy because when you combo, your momentum can take you wide left or right and end up moving away from Clayton and letting him escape
that's why you use the finishers to push him into the corner and then just jump-one-two him there
On my last proud playthrough I had the most trouble with reverse guard armor and the stomach parasite's second form.
>stomach parasite's second form
That one requires timing, but if you can time your air combos proper, you'll tech all his blows
Also when he gets stunned and opens his mouth, don't do finishers because he'll immediately get back up
Worst boss for me on Proud first time was Xenmas since it was my first time and I played KH1 a frickton prior to finally getting Final Mix. I hated the recolors though.
I just did the tarzan world on proud and Goofy was stun locking Clayton while donald and me were beating the shit out of the Chameleon, barely took any damage lol
That's another big perk of KH1, Goofy and Donald feel like they do a ton of shit.
In KH2 they're barely there and even disappear when you drive form.
>cast Aeroga on Donald and Goofy
>use the command button to direct them towards enemy and bosses
>watch as the combined DPS just wrecks the shit out of HP bars
Monster hunter is genuinely the most boring fricking series on the planet, you enjoying it says everything i need to know about you.
Randomly shadow sora fight in peter pan world was the hardest fight for me on proud.
My ex had cheshire cat socks and this is reminding me of her. This sucks
B-Bros? I think this fish wants to... Y'know...
When does item synthesis unlock in kh?
After you Kill Mickey or nuke Traverse Town
I hate how Cid and Gepetto turn into ghouls if you nuke traverse town. Fricking vital NPCs.
Don't do the full combo on him, jump and one-two
When he falls on the floor you just bolt outta there (or try to get the parry timing but good luck on that with the wooden sword)
For me it was the trickmaster
>go to Olympus
>do the prelims until you get thunder
>go back to wonderland
>Trickmaster is now free
Trickmaster is free regardless. You just punish him after he attacks with a jump combo
>Steam deck defaults the games on borderless windowed mode
That was the most disgusting thing I had to witness for the 10 minutes I did before I realized what it was
Is there any reason to pick Staff besides the extra MP?
To play on CBT mode
MP and magic are the most busted things in the game
But I like slapping shit instead of becoming an anime turret boy
This is KH, not GodOfSoy. Jumping into a group of enemies keyblade swinging on the higher difficulties is akin to jumping into a blender. This remains consistent in every KH game.
It's not that bad. I pretty much only ever used Cure spells, and I played on the Proud/Critical modes. just lern 2 parry and never stop moving.
Honestly, the beat-em-up genre rules always apply, making sure to group up a bunch that can be torn up with a solid attack/combo together just like with magic anyway, and watching for bounces or a Big Body suddenly turning to slap his belly and the like. You have infinite usage of beating everything to death, you only have so much magic and so many Ethers, but with both styles crowd control never stops being essential.
>Jumping into a group of enemies keyblade swinging
That's what abilities are for like Sonic Rave and Strike Raid.
You'll still want MP because more MP = more Aero = less damage taken = more unga
That said, you wanna be a real boy, you pick sword and give up shield
Guard only at lv24 and less MP to fight defensively
the way I see it, Goofy is the shield and Donald is the staff, so it's Sora's job to be the sword.
based
kino
ludo
etc
I gave up Mystic personally. Sora seemed less magical in 1 compared to 2 anyway so it made more sense for him to have limited magical abilities.
I respect it
I still need muh leaf bracer as early as I can get but I love the headcannon or whatever you'd describe that feeling is
Headcanon yeah. But I'd argue its canonical in concept of him being less magical given the differences between 1 and 2 in terms of what Sora can do. He's definitely less magical.
you're totally right. the way he slides around with magic in KH 2 with the drive forms definitely makes it seem like he's gotten used to it
I just wish he remembered how to not to spend all his MP on a single cast of cure but I guess namine kept that memory lol
I dunno, I see KH1 Sora as being very different from KH2 Sora, but in very different ways. KH1, he's a magic knight, he has a lot of magic imbued in his later attacks and the Ragnarok special, but his inexperience lends him to using the keyblade bluntly. KH2, he's got Roxas experience backing him up, and suddenly he becomes a superblade master where it's less about spells and magic and more just doing insane shit all over the place as he overhauls his physicality and it's like the magic is just a thing that happens with it. I think it takes til KH3 to really cement both styles together as a teenage nuclear wizard slapper.
KH2 is more of the magic knight. He has a lot of magical abilities in general and can integrate them into his combo strings.
>You'll still want MP because more MP = more Aero = less damage taken = more unga
You mean more gravity and goofy only has mp gift. You can nuke bosses with that strategy and pretty much every encounter becomes trivial with it. Its so busted I actually love it
Your magic damage scales to your max MP
That's all you need to know
Ripple Drive. It's the second best AoE attack ability only behind Strike Raid.
>hardest difficulty macro ursula
WHO
THE
FRICK
DESIGNED
THIS
SHIT
Wait till you fight Chernabog.
>play KH1 on PCSX2 several years ago straight from the disc, but this was before the major nightly updates that made it really good
>virtually no problems all game long
>kill Chernabog
>game crashes
he is way easier because of tinkerbell and aeroga
...You can use Tinkerbell? YOU GOT AEROGA!? I just brute force memorized his moves.
>put on EXP Zero
>land a finisher on Chernabog
>land on his shoulder
>I AM MUSHU
>watch his HP bars disappear
UGH! NOT VERY TASTY!
Bro, just use Stop on her.
YOU CAN WHAT????
Bro, every enemy in the game is vulnerable to stop
I think only the final boss gauntlet isnt
>he doesn’t know
that's cool, but I'm glad I never used magic much. seems like it would trivialize everything
Its harder then it looks. Replicate anything you see when you look up the pro gamers do it and its tricky to get the motions just right. That's an easier trick then fricking fighting Lingering Will though.
Is it really trivializing if it doesn’t work on every boss?
What's up with the delay cutscenes and sounds for KH 1 on Steam?
Is there a way to fix this? maybe with a mod or something.
These three are pretty much useless, right?
I'm just gonna sell them.
yes
Kairi and Selphie upskirt panties.
The fun of Wonderland is coming back later and finding the secret rooms 🙂
Lady luck is so damn good but holy shit is it confusing to get. Its the best looking keyblade too
i'm like riku except instead of taming his inner darkness and using it as his strength i'm taming my alcoholism and using vodka to unlock my super self
kingdom hearts could have been a decent series if it wasn't for the disney shit
its ok when you are like 12 but as a grown ass adults having anime edgelords next to goofy is fricking moronic and I feel like a god damn autist for even entertaining this nonsense
Okay
struck a nerve have I lol, manchildren will stay as such 🙂
lol you are cringe
I think it's funny. If anything they should have gone harder on the Disney side of things. KH's problem is when it started taking itself so seriously.
I suspect the real reason you feel like an autist is because you are one if your post is any indication.
>he doesn't enjoy seeing Donald Duck go "Sora, it's Sephiroth!" as he leaps out of a portal
>he doesn't like the complete nonsense that is Yen Sid uttering "Chip and Dale are currently analyzing the data that Ansem the Wise provided to Riku"
Weak
Your only right today. But yesterday you were a homosexual. Yesterday Disney wasn't as fricking ruined as it was. Yesterday we had hope. Yesterday seemed so long ago.
>classic characters are le cringe
COPE
Every 4 strikes he does his thing anon ganbare!
>been playing KH1 since the OG PS2 release
>only now just figured out that if you use Fire on Dark Riku, he absorbs the attack and shoots it back at you and you can deflect back at him for a stable phase 1 loop
Damn, this game is so cool.
You can also use Gravity on Maleficent’s floating platform to bring her down faster or use Blizzard on the fireplace to stop Trickmaster from lighting up its batons.
>KH1 OG, not FM+
>Ansem Riku boss fight
>that unskippable cutscene you have to go throught EVERY SINGLE TIME if you fail
it's no use
that girl has lost her heart. she cannot wake up.
>the Gummi ship mission where you blow up the nobody death star
KINO
remember fighting X Hunter and his bullet hell patterns making my PS2 lag, kino indeed
>KH1 OG, not FM+
>Goofy's un-nerfed MP Gift set as his only active
I love the fricking huge HP&MP bars in endgame KH1.
Don't give up champ
I've played the game for almost 20 ass years STILL find hidden shit like I didn't know you could fill the drinking water in a second spot.