He's basically the good version of the ultimate lifeform created by Gerald Robotnik who is Eggmans father. The evil version is the final boss of Sonic Adventure 2.
To follow up on the other posts people have already made: no relation to Sonic has ever been expounded. It remains unclear why Gerald Robotnik's "ultimate lifeform" looks almost exactly like Sonic who did not exist yet. It's possible he was inspired by the same prophetic mural that we see in Sonic & Knuckles.
He's part alien/ demon, part reptile, and for some reason is a hedgehog, and is born in space. His sister is a human and his brother is a lizard.
Sonic Adventure 2 had a surprisingly ballsy story. They needed to make an edgy rival and ran with it.
>Sonic Adventure 2 had a surprisingly ballsy story. They needed to make an edgy rival and ran with it.
Helps they were willing to depict one that is allowed to tie/beat Sonic unlike Metal.
They often depict "stronger" villains but the thing is those villains just don't do much in the story, like Infinite, who is for some reason Eggman's henchman (even though he can just take over the world at a point)
Meanwhile Shadow actually had presence in the story, scene cut and he's posing menacingly at the top of the Golden Gate Bridge surrounded by cops, "I promise you... REVENGE!"
Shadow was made for two reasons: >his creator, Gerald, was doing immortality research in the hopes of saving his ill granddaughter (Maria) >the military that was funding Gerald, GUN, wanted living weapons
Sonic is the true ultimate lifeform, capable of chaos control even using an imitation chaos emerald.
So it makes sense that shadow is similar to sonic and the failed prototype is a fricked up monstrosity.
After decades of research on how to create the ultimate life form the end result of Dr.Gerald Robotnik AKA Eggman's grandfather research was a really fasr hedgehog that can use the power of chaos control.
Sonic is the true natural born ultimate lifeform.
It's a like an equation with two entirely different people working on it completely seperately through entirely different methpds, but both end up getting the same answer.
Though in this case these two people are Dr.Gerald and nature itself.
How Gerald reached that conclusion is up for debate.
Most people like to think that Gerald used the hedgehog and perfect chaos murals in the angel island ruins from Sonic 3 and adventure 1 respectively as basis for Shadow and biolizard.
It's all just an excuse to have an edgy Sonic counterpart in a somewhat shitty game. I remember the good hedgehog/bad hedgehog commercial getting me hyped as a kid though.
SA2 screenshots often don't convey who is talking.
I can't tell if this is Sonic making a statement about Shadow or vice versa, or even if it's radio dialogue.
Shadow is created as the ultimate lifeform, he is referred to as such objectively in SA2 and every game afterwards in-universe and irl. This is proof Shadow is the Ultimate Lifeform. Your proof it's Sonic instead comes from a dying delusional Shadow who survived anyway. Sod off headcanontard.
He's part alien/ demon, part reptile, and for some reason is a hedgehog, and is born in space. His sister is a human and his brother is a lizard.
Sonic Adventure 2 had a surprisingly ballsy story. They needed to make an edgy rival and ran with it.
Shadow gets way more shit than he deserves because of one bad game that misunderstood and mishandled the character. But he's popular for a reason, and his debut is one of, if not THE best Sonic game ever.
I hope the movie does what it needs to to redeem a genuinely good character who caught a lot of bad flak.
shadow should've been a one and done thing
his arc is perfectly wrapped up in SA2 (as was the whole series really with eggman reflecting on things. If we had just jumped from SA2 to 06 to reboot shit (and 06 was good) that would've been for the best. Shadow was actually pretty good in 06
Agreed. The issue was that the character was basically a foil to his own popularity.
I remember in an interview, Maekawa the lead writer behind SA2 was very much against the idea of bringing Shadow back for Sonic Heroes, but upper management insisted and he had to concede. The character was just too popular. Which consequently also led to the development of Shadow the Hedgehog.
It's interesting to think what Sonic Heroes would have been with the absence of Team Dark. Likewise if you delete Shadow the Hedgehog from existence, and Sonic and the Secret Rings, and pour all that development effort into Sonic 06, which would mark the return of Shadow.
He's not a clone of Sonic, he's actually a lizard that just happens to look like Sonic. >inb4 he's not a lizard
His prototype is a giant fricking lizard, you can't convince me he's not at least partially one himself.
>be Gerald >live on sterile space station with your granddaughter because she has space AIDS >glowies want you to create “the ultimate lifeform” as a weapon >agree to it because a perfect organism would also entail immunity to all diseases which you could use as a bases as a cure >first attempt is a giant lizard that requires life support >ayy with pussy face shows up >promises to give you some of his dna for you project in exchange for the chaos emeralds 50 years later >agree to it and secretly turn your station into a giant laser cause frick those black creatures >create shadow as ultimate life form (don’t ask how giant lizard dna mixed with flying starfish genes creates an emo hedgehog) >glowies discover your secret deal and arrest you and kill everyone aboard the ark >glowies still want you to work for them >discover your granddaughter was killed in the incident >go insane brainwash shadow to want to kill humanity and rig the ark to destroy the earth >get filmed being executed >50 years later grandson(eggman) releases shadow from glowie stasis >SA2 happens
Lazy new character for SA2. Trash downgrade from the first SA1 besides the Rail Grinding and Sonic levels. Also Shadow levels but really it was just Black person sonic levels.
It is just a joke about Eggman's grandfather predicting Sonic as the ultimate lifeform. Shadow's original story in adventure 2 is so popular because of his sacrifice, overcoming his creator's will. Everything else like aliens, emeralds and murals doesn't really add much of value.
He's basically the good version of the ultimate lifeform created by Gerald Robotnik who is Eggmans father. The evil version is the final boss of Sonic Adventure 2.
>Eggmans father
Grandfather. Not his father.
That is the most confusing and moronic explanation I've ever seen of it, congratulations
Grandfather
Thread didn't even hit 1 post before the moronic headcanons got posted
???
That's literally the plot of SA2 moron-kun.
He was created by Gerald robotnik 50 years before SA2 with some black arms alien DNA.
To follow up on the other posts people have already made: no relation to Sonic has ever been expounded. It remains unclear why Gerald Robotnik's "ultimate lifeform" looks almost exactly like Sonic who did not exist yet. It's possible he was inspired by the same prophetic mural that we see in Sonic & Knuckles.
Sonic time traveled and met Gerald that way. The end.
Nah he made it based off the mural of super sonic vs chaos. He literally saw a god on a mural and made his own.
There is no such mural.
It made a lot more sense in the prototype stage when he was based on being a tenrec
No, at best we have good reason to be believe he was modeled after a mural of Super Sonic (thus the quills) but nothing has been confirmed.
>HyperBitHero makes a video essay on Shadow
>This thread pops up
To be fair, this board has a Shadow thread every day.
He's part alien/ demon, part reptile, and for some reason is a hedgehog, and is born in space. His sister is a human and his brother is a lizard.
Sonic Adventure 2 had a surprisingly ballsy story. They needed to make an edgy rival and ran with it.
>Sonic Adventure 2 had a surprisingly ballsy story. They needed to make an edgy rival and ran with it.
Helps they were willing to depict one that is allowed to tie/beat Sonic unlike Metal.
They often depict "stronger" villains but the thing is those villains just don't do much in the story, like Infinite, who is for some reason Eggman's henchman (even though he can just take over the world at a point)
Meanwhile Shadow actually had presence in the story, scene cut and he's posing menacingly at the top of the Golden Gate Bridge surrounded by cops, "I promise you... REVENGE!"
>I know he's the Ultimate Lifeform.
t. Hasn't played SA2
>Autistic person confuses thematic metaphor with literal plot
Many such cases
Shadow was made for two reasons:
>his creator, Gerald, was doing immortality research in the hopes of saving his ill granddaughter (Maria)
>the military that was funding Gerald, GUN, wanted living weapons
Sonic is the true ultimate lifeform, capable of chaos control even using an imitation chaos emerald.
So it makes sense that shadow is similar to sonic and the failed prototype is a fricked up monstrosity.
He was a clone of sonic but he became twisted after robotic spilled cherry Coca-Cola in the cloning vat
It's hard to actually describe Shadow's personality because it changes drastically every game. Even moreso than the rest of the cast
After decades of research on how to create the ultimate life form the end result of Dr.Gerald Robotnik AKA Eggman's grandfather research was a really fasr hedgehog that can use the power of chaos control.
Sonic is the true natural born ultimate lifeform.
It's a like an equation with two entirely different people working on it completely seperately through entirely different methpds, but both end up getting the same answer.
Though in this case these two people are Dr.Gerald and nature itself.
How Gerald reached that conclusion is up for debate.
Most people like to think that Gerald used the hedgehog and perfect chaos murals in the angel island ruins from Sonic 3 and adventure 1 respectively as basis for Shadow and biolizard.
SHADOW SEXO!!!
If you played the games all you have to do is pay attention, sorry your a smooth brain homosexual
>please spoil the 2 best games in the Sonic franchise for me
No I won't do that
Play Adventure 1 and 2
Child murder, mass murder, execution by firing squad. Government conspiracy. Am I missing anything? Oh yeah aliens
You missed out Maria having NIDS, the Sonic universe equivalent of AIDS.
Not even joking about that look it up.
I've heard Koji Yusa in plenty of series before, but I've never heard his Shadow until now.
It's all just an excuse to have an edgy Sonic counterpart in a somewhat shitty game. I remember the good hedgehog/bad hedgehog commercial getting me hyped as a kid though.
Someone post the webm of sonic shitting on amy
I didn't say it was canon though.
I just said it was up for debate, but that most people like to think that.
>Sonic is not the "true ultimate lifeform".
SA2 screenshots often don't convey who is talking.
I can't tell if this is Sonic making a statement about Shadow or vice versa, or even if it's radio dialogue.
Perhaps try playing the game stoopid
I got 120 emblems on the GameCube version over two decades ago
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Shadow is created as the ultimate lifeform, he is referred to as such objectively in SA2 and every game afterwards in-universe and irl. This is proof Shadow is the Ultimate Lifeform. Your proof it's Sonic instead comes from a dying delusional Shadow who survived anyway. Sod off headcanontard.
>character is stating out loud that sonic is the ultimate lifeform
>NO IT DOESN'T COUNT
BROS?
isn't headcanon
He's just a real thug homie. A straight-up G, if you will.
Disgusting AIposter. Get out of my sight.
Best character in the franchise
Shadow gets way more shit than he deserves because of one bad game that misunderstood and mishandled the character. But he's popular for a reason, and his debut is one of, if not THE best Sonic game ever.
I hope the movie does what it needs to to redeem a genuinely good character who caught a lot of bad flak.
shadow should've been a one and done thing
his arc is perfectly wrapped up in SA2 (as was the whole series really with eggman reflecting on things. If we had just jumped from SA2 to 06 to reboot shit (and 06 was good) that would've been for the best. Shadow was actually pretty good in 06
Agreed. The issue was that the character was basically a foil to his own popularity.
I remember in an interview, Maekawa the lead writer behind SA2 was very much against the idea of bringing Shadow back for Sonic Heroes, but upper management insisted and he had to concede. The character was just too popular. Which consequently also led to the development of Shadow the Hedgehog.
It's interesting to think what Sonic Heroes would have been with the absence of Team Dark. Likewise if you delete Shadow the Hedgehog from existence, and Sonic and the Secret Rings, and pour all that development effort into Sonic 06, which would mark the return of Shadow.
He's not a clone of Sonic, he's actually a lizard that just happens to look like Sonic.
>inb4 he's not a lizard
His prototype is a giant fricking lizard, you can't convince me he's not at least partially one himself.
>be Gerald
>live on sterile space station with your granddaughter because she has space AIDS
>glowies want you to create “the ultimate lifeform” as a weapon
>agree to it because a perfect organism would also entail immunity to all diseases which you could use as a bases as a cure
>first attempt is a giant lizard that requires life support
>ayy with pussy face shows up
>promises to give you some of his dna for you project in exchange for the chaos emeralds 50 years later
>agree to it and secretly turn your station into a giant laser cause frick those black creatures
>create shadow as ultimate life form (don’t ask how giant lizard dna mixed with flying starfish genes creates an emo hedgehog)
>glowies discover your secret deal and arrest you and kill everyone aboard the ark
>glowies still want you to work for them
>discover your granddaughter was killed in the incident
>go insane brainwash shadow to want to kill humanity and rig the ark to destroy the earth
>get filmed being executed
>50 years later grandson(eggman) releases shadow from glowie stasis
>SA2 happens
The story of SA2 was so fricking good. I always forget how intense it is.
I wonder if the Black Arms ever had contact with the Ancients? Would be kino
Lazy new character for SA2. Trash downgrade from the first SA1 besides the Rail Grinding and Sonic levels. Also Shadow levels but really it was just Black person sonic levels.
It is just a joke about Eggman's grandfather predicting Sonic as the ultimate lifeform. Shadow's original story in adventure 2 is so popular because of his sacrifice, overcoming his creator's will. Everything else like aliens, emeralds and murals doesn't really add much of value.
He's the coolest.