I admit I’m pretty emotional man so glad to be able to finish this game and experience the whole thing so purely as was originally intended. Fricking perfection honestly.
Did Remake/Rebirth use the Prologue theme? I also recently finished a playthrough of OG FF7 and Prologue playing during the credits made me realise that I didn't recall hearing it in either of the Remake games. Prelude played during both, but did Prologue?
I just beat the original Final Fantasy VII. What did I think of it?
You thought that playing it when you were 8 years old in the late 1990s would have changed the way you perceived reality, but playing it today makes for a decent playthrough all the same.
>Knew Aerith got stabbed before I even knew who Aerith was >finally play her game and reach the scene in question >it's still masterfully done and emotionally provocative >Get blindsided by all the Zack flashback kino since no one bothered to talk about anything besides Aerith dying
The flashback plot twist is definitely the biggest twist in the game. I guess we all like Aerith so her dying is huge. But I don't understand why the flashback reveal doesn't get more attention
Because if the remake made anything obvious is that nobody actually gives a frick about FF7, the actual videogame characters themes and plot.
People only care about FF7, “the product”, “the idea”, “the brand”, on the most basic superficial and stripped away level. Playing sims with the characters and talking about moronic fanfiction.
I think what I hate about this is that FF7 feels so pointless now. I touched on it earlier but what were those sacrifices for now? Holy did nothing. Jenova will never die. Sephiroth is now an immortal time lord. Every Cloud in every universe will be tormented by this butthole forever. Not that Cloud had free will to begin with.
Just frick this bullshit, stick with the original game which contained the team's vision at the time and ignore everything else. It's what I do.
The 97 title is and will always be a rounded self contained fulfilling masterpiece and no amount of spinoff fanfic degradation will change that.
I think I'm upset at it because I just wanted the remake to fill in details about the world. Like how Shinra took over the world or to make the timeline clearer or make more sense. I didn't need for it to be fundamentally changed, the fact the story has endured for nearly 30 years tells you that was unnecessary. I just wanted them to add more color on the edges. But maybe that was a monkey's paw because now I have to interpret the events of at least THREE OTHER UNIVERSES to learn the new story. And that really fricking sucks.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I know, I wanted the same thing. Tastefully enhancing the universe instead of going full balls to the walls nonsense time traveling deus ex machina plot devices about multiverses and some dogshit.
Like fully realizing yuffie and vincent as party members, ironing out some inconsistencies, restoring content that was on the game but was glitched out of playability…
Sure, add a more rich backstory about shinra's total world domination, the wutai war, professor gast's investigations and the cetra world before humans. I don't know, why not. Sounds like it'd fit.
Whatever.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You know what's a really cool thing the original did that gets almost zero attention? How good Shinra is at rewriting history. I'm glad you mentioned Yuffie because on the surface Yuffie is kind of a brat who only cares about Wutai and Materia. But like... she's more right than even she knows. The Lifestream lost its name, it's Mako now. Knowlespole lost its name, now its a generic ass Icicle Area assuming it's not just called "Northern Continent." No one even knows a whole village was wiped off map by Shinra? Oh you thought I meant Nibelheim? No I was talking about Corel although yeah Nibelheim got memory holed too. Too bad Sephiroth died under mysterious circumstances. Most popular soldier in the world, no one can explain what happened to him. So yeah I totally understand why Yuffie is struggling so hard to get her country out of Shinra's hands. It's already losing its identity. And the most memorable part of it, other than being a tourist trap that serves its conquerors, is that there's a guy hiding there kidnapping teenagers so he can frick them upside down on the faces of their ancestors.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Also Midgar used to be a collection of villages. No one remembers what the villages were called anymore though.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That guy hiding? Me
3 months ago
Anonymous
Get the frick off of Ganker Corneo
3 months ago
Anonymous
Remakegays will cope and get pissed off suggesting you would want a 1 for 1 remake, when in reality the best remakes take all the aspects that work about the original and enhance them, while keeping the original relevant in its own right. More importantly, it is key for people who have never played the original to understand everything that is going on in the Remake, something that it falls flat on in multiple instances. What I really wanted was a singular cohesive video game, even if there were changes made. Hell, I would have settled for TWO parts
3 months ago
Anonymous
Am I the only one who thinks it's insane that Resident Evil 1 remake is considered one of the best remakes of all time and all it did was remix a few things and added some others while still being about cops trapped in an evil funhouse. This whole deal has given me a very begrudging respect for FF16. Because even though FF16 fell on its fricking ass, it still had to be its own thing. It couldn't just hide behind a previous success's face to get extra clout. SE knew anything with Cloud on box is going to see moderate success no matter what so they just used him as a vehicle to this new thing they thought of. And I hate that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe I'll get anihilated for suggesting it but that's why I enjoyed the RE2 and RE4 remakes, felt like respectful sidegrades that acknowledge they're doing a familiar interpretation without stomping on the originals or trying to replace them. Also feels like they're having fun WITH the fans and not at their expense.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think RE2 is okay although I'm upset at how hard they dropped the ball with the B scenarios and the lack of interaction between Leon and Claire. RE4 I think is better done because RE4 is still technically a modern game. Like the stuff they changed was kind of small. Saddler mind controlled Ashley in the original game, he just does it more often in the Remake. And Saddler himself went from more a of grifter to a genuine nut job who saw the parasites as his god. Like you said it's more of a sidegrade where you will get the bullet points of the original if you played them.
FF7 is a remake that is also a sequel that relies on prior knowledge of OG that was made 30 years ago. Most people who DID play the OG don't remember the events clearly.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think they don't remember clearly and they don't really care either.
I know a couple of boomer 40+yo acquaintances that played the original back then but live with zoomer mentality of only wanting to play remakes and rerelases and NEVER looking back because old games are old and le clunky and le janky.
Completely embarrasing.
Sadly more frequent than you may think.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>only wanting to play remakes and rerelases and NEVER looking back because old games are old and le clunky and le janky.
Oh my fricking God this shit makes me want to scream. There was a video I saw about God of War 4 where the discussion was about how God of War was finally a mature series with mature themes and then it turned out the journalists never or barely played the Greek games at all. And he said something that stuck with me that I'm gonna paraphrase. If there's any merit to the argument that games can never be art, then gamers are that argument. Because no other medium in the world is supported by people who are so quick to shit on what came before in favor of the shiny new thing. FF7 was a good game. There were games that were better than it at the time and the JRPG formula has seen QoL improvements since. But nothing can change the fact that FF7 is and always will be a good game. So to hear people say actually it wasn't good but we're still going to take the names, characters, systems, themes, and setting and put it in this new thing... but no the OG wasn't good is enraging to me
3 months ago
Anonymous
> If there's any merit to the argument that games can never be art, then gamers are that argument. Because no other medium in the world is supported by people who are so quick to shit on what came before in favor of the shiny new thing.
What a great quote, definitely stealing that one. The absolute state of “gamers” is just pathetic.
Don't know what to add besides sharing the sentiment.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I personally think RE4 remake is very good. While the original is a better video game, the attempts at making RE4 a more sensible horror game worked for me. Its far from perfect, but I would rather them try that instead of make the same game but shittier. RE2 remake would have been perfect if there were actual A and B routes, but you cant win them all. It is kind of interesting how Mr. X and Nemesis kind of flipflopped between the RE2 and RE3 remakes.
That said, the RE3 remake is a turd relative to the original. As a stand alone game it is like a 6/10, and only worth like 20 bucks at best, but compared to the original its just pretty shit.
Am I the only one who thinks it's insane that Resident Evil 1 remake is considered one of the best remakes of all time and all it did was remix a few things and added some others while still being about cops trapped in an evil funhouse. This whole deal has given me a very begrudging respect for FF16. Because even though FF16 fell on its fricking ass, it still had to be its own thing. It couldn't just hide behind a previous success's face to get extra clout. SE knew anything with Cloud on box is going to see moderate success no matter what so they just used him as a vehicle to this new thing they thought of. And I hate that.
Resident Evil 1 is the poster child for a reason. While it didnt add a lot of new stuff, it added a lot of new stuff relative to the length of the game, and the addition of stuff such as Crimson Heads added another layer of tension and terror, which works well for the type of game that it is, to an already familiar game. FF7Remakegays have no good argument against the glowing praise of the RE1 remake even though it is actually a quite bit different in tone (a lot less corny, weird candle lit atmosphere, a lot of fleshing out of ideas). Granted, my one big gripe is that in spite of all of its strengths, they still did nothing to give RE1 a proper canon ending, which I always found stupid.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah but they cut enemies so Ill never prefer them over the originals.
It's because it's not as easy to meme since it's more involved with the actual plot of the game.
Aerith's death is known by secondaries while Cloud's past is mainly known by people that actually played the game
It was abrupt but I do think it was warranted. We weren't supposed to know whether humans were spared. Aerith did pray and White Materia did glow green, so the planet did hear her prayer. But humans were also the biggest threat to the planet on the scale of Jenova. So the planet had cause to just delete them.
But that abrupt ending probably feels wrong now that all of the sequels have proven in no uncertain terms that humans (and Jenova and Sephiroth) survived Holy
Why kill off fan favorites when you can milk them for content? Japs always cowtow to their societal expectations. Dragonball did it: Piccolo and Vegeta were supposed to be another dead villain like Raditz and Frieza.
actually finished it a few days ago as well.
you thought that the prerendered backgrounds are atmospheric and peak soul (although needed to be played on an emulator with proper shaders all the "modern" version make the game look like an atrocious mess), the music is amazing but you wished the game was more difficult.
and compare it to how the hi-res textures clash with the environment on my post.
The game is good, but the side content sucks.
Secret Bosses aren't hard, they're just HP sponges, which leave you choosing between "Use KOTR to beat them in a speedy fashion" or "use anything else and take a decade".Good thing secret bosses in other FF games are just hard, and they don't have literally 1 million HP.
Fort Condor is boring and pointless, and Chocobo breeding is just time consuming.
>9999 attacks
Do you mean Quadra Magic Demi in Emerald Weapon? Slower than KOTR. Nothing does 9999 on Ruby. >Limit breaks
Only useful with HP 7777 trick, otherwise Ruby has a lot of defense and Emerald will have a lot of targets, both cases making Limits pretty bad.
actually finished it a few days ago as well.
you thought that the prerendered backgrounds are atmospheric and peak soul (although needed to be played on an emulator with proper shaders all the "modern" version make the game look like an atrocious mess), the music is amazing but you wished the game was more difficult.
Hands down the best game I ever played. Yes, it's full of flaws, but it's just so much better than the sum of its parts that nothing else gets close. The remakes are a crime against humanity.
actually finished it a few days ago as well.
you thought that the prerendered backgrounds are atmospheric and peak soul (although needed to be played on an emulator with proper shaders all the "modern" version make the game look like an atrocious mess), the music is amazing but you wished the game was more difficult.
i agree that the game is good and insanely well made but from there to the best game ever is quite a big leap.
When you try to rationalize FFVII being the best game it doesn't feel right, I agreed. But when I try to think of a game that was decisively better literally nothing comes to mind.
If I think about other GOAT contenders like Dark Souls, Bloodborne, MGS 1-3, REmake, RE4, Deus Ex etc, they are all fricking amazing but are they better than FFVII? I don't think so.
Just started New Threat for the first time. Not sure how I feel about how many changes were made to Midgar, feels like it took 1/3 of the time it normally does
They're interesting changes.
I'm playing scenario B which changes a lot. The new takes on bosses have been pretty fun, but it was a bit annoying that you basically skip all of Wall Market.
It's also weird that the plate doesn't fall so Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie are all fine, not sure if that'll be relevant later
Was the original as totally inconsistent as the remake is? Theyre some legitimately evil and fricked up shit happening but the villains are treated like Saturday morning cartoon characters.
you think you might be trans
You wish you had played it when it released
Shipper Fantasy 7
is this a reference to how there were 3million units of XVI SHIPPED and sold?
Nah, it is a reference to how Rebirth reignited Tifagays and Aerithgays (Or Aerisgays if you prefer) b***hing at eachother again.
It was the peak of gaming and now you are sad that nothing will come close.
I admit I’m pretty emotional man so glad to be able to finish this game and experience the whole thing so purely as was originally intended. Fricking perfection honestly.
>FF7 predicted livestreams
Sugoi Nomura
The ending is a masterpiece and the third part of the remake will ruin it.
Did Remake/Rebirth use the Prologue theme? I also recently finished a playthrough of OG FF7 and Prologue playing during the credits made me realise that I didn't recall hearing it in either of the Remake games. Prelude played during both, but did Prologue?
you thought it was good but not as good as FF10, which will never be topped
It was a greatest gaming experience of your life and you’re now ready for the real deal: Final Fantasy VIII
Is it actually a worthy follow up?
It's significant in that it teaches you an important life lesson in how to deal with disappointment. As a player, not from the story.
kek
You thought that playing it when you were 8 years old in the late 1990s would have changed the way you perceived reality, but playing it today makes for a decent playthrough all the same.
No play X avoid the new faces
Now you need to play FFVII REDDIT and FFVII REDDITBIRTH and see how bad things truly are.
shipper fantasy 7
shipper fantasy 7: shipmake
shipper fantasy 7: shipbirth
did u unlock yuffie and vincent?
>Knew Aerith got stabbed before I even knew who Aerith was
>finally play her game and reach the scene in question
>it's still masterfully done and emotionally provocative
>Get blindsided by all the Zack flashback kino since no one bothered to talk about anything besides Aerith dying
This game was definitely something special
The flashback plot twist is definitely the biggest twist in the game. I guess we all like Aerith so her dying is huge. But I don't understand why the flashback reveal doesn't get more attention
Because if the remake made anything obvious is that nobody actually gives a frick about FF7, the actual videogame characters themes and plot.
People only care about FF7, “the product”, “the idea”, “the brand”, on the most basic superficial and stripped away level. Playing sims with the characters and talking about moronic fanfiction.
I think what I hate about this is that FF7 feels so pointless now. I touched on it earlier but what were those sacrifices for now? Holy did nothing. Jenova will never die. Sephiroth is now an immortal time lord. Every Cloud in every universe will be tormented by this butthole forever. Not that Cloud had free will to begin with.
Just frick this bullshit, stick with the original game which contained the team's vision at the time and ignore everything else. It's what I do.
The 97 title is and will always be a rounded self contained fulfilling masterpiece and no amount of spinoff fanfic degradation will change that.
I think I'm upset at it because I just wanted the remake to fill in details about the world. Like how Shinra took over the world or to make the timeline clearer or make more sense. I didn't need for it to be fundamentally changed, the fact the story has endured for nearly 30 years tells you that was unnecessary. I just wanted them to add more color on the edges. But maybe that was a monkey's paw because now I have to interpret the events of at least THREE OTHER UNIVERSES to learn the new story. And that really fricking sucks.
I know, I wanted the same thing. Tastefully enhancing the universe instead of going full balls to the walls nonsense time traveling deus ex machina plot devices about multiverses and some dogshit.
Like fully realizing yuffie and vincent as party members, ironing out some inconsistencies, restoring content that was on the game but was glitched out of playability…
Sure, add a more rich backstory about shinra's total world domination, the wutai war, professor gast's investigations and the cetra world before humans. I don't know, why not. Sounds like it'd fit.
Whatever.
You know what's a really cool thing the original did that gets almost zero attention? How good Shinra is at rewriting history. I'm glad you mentioned Yuffie because on the surface Yuffie is kind of a brat who only cares about Wutai and Materia. But like... she's more right than even she knows. The Lifestream lost its name, it's Mako now. Knowlespole lost its name, now its a generic ass Icicle Area assuming it's not just called "Northern Continent." No one even knows a whole village was wiped off map by Shinra? Oh you thought I meant Nibelheim? No I was talking about Corel although yeah Nibelheim got memory holed too. Too bad Sephiroth died under mysterious circumstances. Most popular soldier in the world, no one can explain what happened to him. So yeah I totally understand why Yuffie is struggling so hard to get her country out of Shinra's hands. It's already losing its identity. And the most memorable part of it, other than being a tourist trap that serves its conquerors, is that there's a guy hiding there kidnapping teenagers so he can frick them upside down on the faces of their ancestors.
Also Midgar used to be a collection of villages. No one remembers what the villages were called anymore though.
That guy hiding? Me
Get the frick off of Ganker Corneo
Remakegays will cope and get pissed off suggesting you would want a 1 for 1 remake, when in reality the best remakes take all the aspects that work about the original and enhance them, while keeping the original relevant in its own right. More importantly, it is key for people who have never played the original to understand everything that is going on in the Remake, something that it falls flat on in multiple instances. What I really wanted was a singular cohesive video game, even if there were changes made. Hell, I would have settled for TWO parts
Am I the only one who thinks it's insane that Resident Evil 1 remake is considered one of the best remakes of all time and all it did was remix a few things and added some others while still being about cops trapped in an evil funhouse. This whole deal has given me a very begrudging respect for FF16. Because even though FF16 fell on its fricking ass, it still had to be its own thing. It couldn't just hide behind a previous success's face to get extra clout. SE knew anything with Cloud on box is going to see moderate success no matter what so they just used him as a vehicle to this new thing they thought of. And I hate that.
Maybe I'll get anihilated for suggesting it but that's why I enjoyed the RE2 and RE4 remakes, felt like respectful sidegrades that acknowledge they're doing a familiar interpretation without stomping on the originals or trying to replace them. Also feels like they're having fun WITH the fans and not at their expense.
I think RE2 is okay although I'm upset at how hard they dropped the ball with the B scenarios and the lack of interaction between Leon and Claire. RE4 I think is better done because RE4 is still technically a modern game. Like the stuff they changed was kind of small. Saddler mind controlled Ashley in the original game, he just does it more often in the Remake. And Saddler himself went from more a of grifter to a genuine nut job who saw the parasites as his god. Like you said it's more of a sidegrade where you will get the bullet points of the original if you played them.
FF7 is a remake that is also a sequel that relies on prior knowledge of OG that was made 30 years ago. Most people who DID play the OG don't remember the events clearly.
I think they don't remember clearly and they don't really care either.
I know a couple of boomer 40+yo acquaintances that played the original back then but live with zoomer mentality of only wanting to play remakes and rerelases and NEVER looking back because old games are old and le clunky and le janky.
Completely embarrasing.
Sadly more frequent than you may think.
>only wanting to play remakes and rerelases and NEVER looking back because old games are old and le clunky and le janky.
Oh my fricking God this shit makes me want to scream. There was a video I saw about God of War 4 where the discussion was about how God of War was finally a mature series with mature themes and then it turned out the journalists never or barely played the Greek games at all. And he said something that stuck with me that I'm gonna paraphrase. If there's any merit to the argument that games can never be art, then gamers are that argument. Because no other medium in the world is supported by people who are so quick to shit on what came before in favor of the shiny new thing. FF7 was a good game. There were games that were better than it at the time and the JRPG formula has seen QoL improvements since. But nothing can change the fact that FF7 is and always will be a good game. So to hear people say actually it wasn't good but we're still going to take the names, characters, systems, themes, and setting and put it in this new thing... but no the OG wasn't good is enraging to me
> If there's any merit to the argument that games can never be art, then gamers are that argument. Because no other medium in the world is supported by people who are so quick to shit on what came before in favor of the shiny new thing.
What a great quote, definitely stealing that one. The absolute state of “gamers” is just pathetic.
Don't know what to add besides sharing the sentiment.
I personally think RE4 remake is very good. While the original is a better video game, the attempts at making RE4 a more sensible horror game worked for me. Its far from perfect, but I would rather them try that instead of make the same game but shittier. RE2 remake would have been perfect if there were actual A and B routes, but you cant win them all. It is kind of interesting how Mr. X and Nemesis kind of flipflopped between the RE2 and RE3 remakes.
That said, the RE3 remake is a turd relative to the original. As a stand alone game it is like a 6/10, and only worth like 20 bucks at best, but compared to the original its just pretty shit.
Resident Evil 1 is the poster child for a reason. While it didnt add a lot of new stuff, it added a lot of new stuff relative to the length of the game, and the addition of stuff such as Crimson Heads added another layer of tension and terror, which works well for the type of game that it is, to an already familiar game. FF7Remakegays have no good argument against the glowing praise of the RE1 remake even though it is actually a quite bit different in tone (a lot less corny, weird candle lit atmosphere, a lot of fleshing out of ideas). Granted, my one big gripe is that in spite of all of its strengths, they still did nothing to give RE1 a proper canon ending, which I always found stupid.
Yeah but they cut enemies so Ill never prefer them over the originals.
>This anon unironically watches THE MESSAGE guy
Because it is moronic?
>My friend died saving me.
>I cope by larping as him.
I can make anything sound stupid if I'm reductive enough. Here watch
>Titanic is about a woman reminiscing about cheating on her fiance with her twink side piece on a cruise
Titanic is stupid, though.
moron
In the end Cloud really was Kingdom Hearts
It's because it's not as easy to meme since it's more involved with the actual plot of the game.
Aerith's death is known by secondaries while Cloud's past is mainly known by people that actually played the game
Because ultimately it influences the story less. It boils down to lol I was actually this guy, moving on
It's fantastic even today.
You see what the fans were getting at but found the abrupt ending to be rather unsatisfying.
It was abrupt but I do think it was warranted. We weren't supposed to know whether humans were spared. Aerith did pray and White Materia did glow green, so the planet did hear her prayer. But humans were also the biggest threat to the planet on the scale of Jenova. So the planet had cause to just delete them.
But that abrupt ending probably feels wrong now that all of the sequels have proven in no uncertain terms that humans (and Jenova and Sephiroth) survived Holy
Why kill off fan favorites when you can milk them for content? Japs always cowtow to their societal expectations. Dragonball did it: Piccolo and Vegeta were supposed to be another dead villain like Raditz and Frieza.
final fantasy consumes my life and it's probably why I'll never have a wife
And that's a good thing.
Jack-sama, I can never stop kneeling
Bussin
Is the steam port of FF7 good or am I better off just emulating?
If you're playing new, just emulate it for the save states and cheats.
The PC port is for modding.
I would play Playstation version emulated. If you want more, get the PC port for modding
emualte
see:
and compare it to how the hi-res textures clash with the environment on my post.
The ending is shit, but the rest of the game is pretty good. I think the remakes have been pretty faithful in that regard...
You thought Birth of a God was way more kino than One Winged Angel.
In the greater context but not in the original game. OG One Wing Angel is the only good version of the song
The game is good, but the side content sucks.
Secret Bosses aren't hard, they're just HP sponges, which leave you choosing between "Use KOTR to beat them in a speedy fashion" or "use anything else and take a decade".Good thing secret bosses in other FF games are just hard, and they don't have literally 1 million HP.
Fort Condor is boring and pointless, and Chocobo breeding is just time consuming.
Your own 9999 attacks and limitbreaks? moron?
>9999 attacks
Do you mean Quadra Magic Demi in Emerald Weapon? Slower than KOTR. Nothing does 9999 on Ruby.
>Limit breaks
Only useful with HP 7777 trick, otherwise Ruby has a lot of defense and Emerald will have a lot of targets, both cases making Limits pretty bad.
No. Just use hero drinks and spam Omnislash or Ungarmax. Emerald Shoot or Beam whatever it was usually filled up a limit bar by itself
>KOTR
>speedy
>he doesn't know to just use Hades and Cross Slash on Ruby
I only played FF7 once and learned how to break the game years later by reading the LP on lparchive
shrug
actually finished it a few days ago as well.
you thought that the prerendered backgrounds are atmospheric and peak soul (although needed to be played on an emulator with proper shaders all the "modern" version make the game look like an atrocious mess), the music is amazing but you wished the game was more difficult.
>you wished the game was more difficult.
this. you have to run away from random encounters if you want a challenge
Hands down the best game I ever played. Yes, it's full of flaws, but it's just so much better than the sum of its parts that nothing else gets close. The remakes are a crime against humanity.
can you extend on that
im:
i agree that the game is good and insanely well made but from there to the best game ever is quite a big leap.
When you try to rationalize FFVII being the best game it doesn't feel right, I agreed. But when I try to think of a game that was decisively better literally nothing comes to mind.
If I think about other GOAT contenders like Dark Souls, Bloodborne, MGS 1-3, REmake, RE4, Deus Ex etc, they are all fricking amazing but are they better than FFVII? I don't think so.
Just started New Threat for the first time. Not sure how I feel about how many changes were made to Midgar, feels like it took 1/3 of the time it normally does
I would like to play it next time but I'm afraid changes will be so radical they'll offput me… but I still have to play it to know for sure
They're interesting changes.
I'm playing scenario B which changes a lot. The new takes on bosses have been pretty fun, but it was a bit annoying that you basically skip all of Wall Market.
It's also weird that the plate doesn't fall so Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie are all fine, not sure if that'll be relevant later
Was the original as totally inconsistent as the remake is? Theyre some legitimately evil and fricked up shit happening but the villains are treated like Saturday morning cartoon characters.
There's some of that, you find the Turks on vacation at one point but they're not treated like team rocket to the same extent
>what did I think
Frick you