>why didn't they release 1000 bugfixes within 14 days of the game's release!
Unless they're gamebreaking, I don't see a huge rush for it. The game runs very well for me, but I've heard Act 3 can get rough
>1000 bugfix patch they mentioned like 2 or 3 weeks ago
iterations are literally in the steamdb you moron, and they've been going crazy with new ones recently which means it should release soon
Sadly it looks like it's going to be a day one patch for the console release
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Larian has confirmed that, as you would expect, all current and future improvements and fixes will be reflected in the PlayStation 5 version of the game.
They are going to release the patches before the PS5 release.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I think it'd make sense to do it a few days before the PS5 release just to make sure nothing else broke
I would not expect any big structural changes to companions or quests lines till patch 2. Maybe not even till next year, the game really neeeded another year.
This. There's virtually no reason to not dump stats you don't benefit directly from and the only reason why you'd put your leftover 2 points into them if for the +1 saving throw
Only reason to have an uneven stat is if there's a decent Feat you want that increases it by 1 in addition to having an effect you want.
There's only a few that are worthwhile in BG3, but a lot more in 5e.
I think with the number of ability points you get you always end with one uneven number, but you want even numbers for your important stats, your ability modifier only increases for every 2 points in an ability
You can make it so they're all even, but it will mean that whatever stat is most important for you isn't as high as it could be and would absolutely require you to spend the feat on bumping it up with two points as opposed to a feat that gives you +1 to that ability and also gives you some other benefit.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I think with the number of ability points you get you always end with one uneven number, but you want even numbers for your important stats, your ability modifier only increases for every 2 points in an ability
pete's sake. can't they just punch me in the face and tell me to make them even?
This. I wanted my priest to be good at concentration saves so I started at 17 and later gave him +1 con+advantage feat. This is very powerful on support classes. Same goes for my bard college of lore; I love those hypnosis spells lasting for as much as I want them to last.
There's no point in having ability scores at all since all you get from it is the derived modifiers. The only time your raw ability score interacts with the game is i think jump distance and carry weight (Strength in both cases). One of the reasons 5E is scuffed and the reason the stat system is the way it is is because it's part of the "Brand". It's a relatively simple system to play, and it's "visibility" makes it easy to find groups for but there's much better designed/granular/fun systems even for narrative focused games.
>Uneven stats
Not really, at best They're for having like 17 X, 15 dex of the flop for a gish character so you can get two stat bonuses off of 1 ASI or theoretically for half feats but no one is taking half feats when the level cap is 12
Only reason to have an uneven stat is if there's a decent Feat you want that increases it by 1 in addition to having an effect you want.
There's only a few that are worthwhile in BG3, but a lot more in 5e.
Tying feats to ASI is a mistake, it makes it so you WILL take ASI at least twice to get 20 in your only stat that matters 90% of the time and competing with skill bonuses means feats have to be broken (like flat +10 damage) to compete or just be never ever tier dogshit.
>Tying feats to ASI is a mistake, it makes it so you WILL take ASI at least twice to get 20 in your only stat that matters 90% of the time and competing with skill bonuses means feats have to be broken (like flat +10 damage) to compete or just be never ever tier dogshit.
Completely agreed, and it only happened this way because 5e was originally made to appeal to people who liked earlier editions of D&D who hated the idea of feats (og, 1e, 2e).
Considering that their anniversary version of 5e is coming out soon and they're no longer really worrying about appealing to those earlier edition players, they honestly should completely separate the two, but they're chickening out and keeping it the way it currently is.
Wrong, 6 is dipshit moron, 8 is just a little slower than average. People seriously don't understand that a 12 int is not you being a fricking genius, that's 20, the game is heavily catered towards being 10+ but an 8 is not crippling muscle atrophy if strength, permanently greased fingers and legs if dex, glass bone syndrome if con and so on. You're just subpar, not literally moronic, 6 int is where you literally are starting to go too stupid since you go any lower and you don't understand languages.
Do you know what the word "borderline" means, friend?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, 6 is your actual borderline and threshold, not 8.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You think being barely able to learn a primary language is only the borderline and threshold? If 6 is that and any lower is totally illiterate, 6 is still moronic.
10 months ago
Anonymous
6-7 is Troll tier intellect, barely capable of articulating any sort of language at all. 8-9 is fricking stupid no matter how you spin it.
>Marian really didn't give a shit about the RP of character stats and just gave them cookie cutter meta stats instead.
ah yeah give them useless stats for rp that doesn't exist
8 INT is roughly equivalent to an 85 or 90 IQ. Genius does start at ~16/17, since that's where you have 130+ IQ.
The problem is that this only applies if you assume everybody has their stats distributed through a 3d6 roll, which isn't the case with post-3e D&D.
With point buy and 5e's inflated point distributions, INT really means nothing of importance.
Every point is 10 IQ. 100 IQ = 10 INT
It makes sense because 110 IQ people pretty much have the same intellectual capacity as 100 IQ people. Once you get to 120 IQ you clearly outclass lesser beings in terms of careers and studies you can efficiently (work/effort to result ratio) and successfully undertake.
Since expert wizards are beings that can bend reality and have incomprehensible powers, its natural that their maximum IQ is beyond our Earthly, apex human standards (160 ~ 170 IQ).
10 months ago
Anonymous
With how many 15 int plus randos there are in dnd settings this just doesn't make sense that they are all 150+ iq
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Every point is 10 IQ. 100 IQ = 10 INT
But it isn't. The actual distribution of INT corresponds pretty strongly to IQ in distribution. >you clearly outclass lesser beings in terms of careers and studies you can efficiently (work/effort to result ratio) and successfully undertake.
That's because higher IQ provides marginal benefits that are extremely difficult to achieve otherwise. When so many outcomes depend on marginal/edge cases, just a bit of an extra push can be the difference between success and failure.
>Since expert wizards are beings that can bend reality and have incomprehensible powers, its natural that their maximum IQ is beyond our Earthly, apex human standards
Wizards wouldn't be much different from modern-day physicists and mathematicians. Most of them are in the 120-130 IQ range, despite the fact that their work is reality-twisting and incomprehensible to the lay person.
Int isn't necessarily what makes you a well spoken person. Rather it's what allows you to know multiple languages.
Being expressive and good with words is more a cha thing, I'd say.
She might only know one or two languages, but she's charismatic in how she uses them.
Or I dunno, its been a while since I've tabletop'd
Any idiot can repeat words, what I mean is that she's articulate which means that she's able to express thought and feelings precisely which requires a certain amount of thought and reflection
I hope you're right, and I really enjoyed the game but I can't help but feel gypped by the fact they knowingly released earlier than they should have to preempt starfield. I just stopped mid second playthrough and will wait for at least confirmation the Minthara stuff has been fixed because Halsin and Wyll are so fricking boring I just want my drow warlord wife back
And this shit is why I don't trust them
If they have to fix the fricking plot in patches, in their long-ass RPG, I don't feel like playing it anymore
Same shit with Elden Ring, they patched a bunch of unfinished quests while I was mid-playthrough and it just killed all interest to keep going
People were saying to wait for the definitive edition even before BG3 came out. No one is forcing you to play it now, the game will be rock solid when they release definitive edition a year from now.
I save her from being mindbroken and she retook her oath to be a good paladin, perma neutral relationship, no dialogue choices have ever appeared for the whole rest of act 2 >Minthara I want to speak to you about something private >Very well >Only option is nevermind
FRICK YOU LARIAN DON'T ALLOW ME TO LITERALLY FIX HER THEN SHES MORE BROKEN THAN EVER
Last minute decision.
She wasn't supposed to be a playable party member at all but due to her popularity the devs considered it but they didn't have the time to implement all of her features so we got the barebones stuff
They claim that halsin was made a companion "because of his popularity" but I think that's a total lie. They probably intended minthara to piss off the straight huwhite mail gamers and were butthurt about her being popular. There were probably shouting matches in meetings about how problematic it would be to make minthara a romance options, so they compromised by making the gay elf who cucks you a companion as well.
halsin actually becomes a companion way too late for me to give a shit even if he wasn't boring as frick
jaheira is the only one who gets away with sneaking in as a companion late in the game
>Last minute decision
Bullshit. You've been able to strip her corpse butt naked for a year and a half. Only companion corpses can be stripped naked. They've intended her to be playable for a while.
she, halsin, minsc and jaheira were all last minute adds, you can see that they have some iffy dialogues
Wyll too since they reworked him last minute, specially at act 3
as for the cut content, every game ever have cut content that the devs couldn't finish or thought weren't good enough to be added, elden ring got a ton of cut quests too, fully voiced and finished, but cut all the same.
They probably had some deadline set by Hasbro or something and had to cut corners for release or else.
expect a lot to return with the enhanced edition/patches
also, patches are expensive to release, thats why hotfixes for serious crashes happen fast, but less game breaking bugs last for months until a big patch, this is for all games, once they hit console they gotta pay like 10k+ just for a single update, the game likely already went gold with s o y ny and they are just rolling fixes upon fixes for a day 1 patch, instead of publishing many in steam and having to compile them together at last minute
>Finish Act 1 >have fun >Finish Act 2 >have fun >Get to act 3 >never start, make new character just to play through act 1 and 2 again while using new classes >install mods for more spells/cantrips and a higher level cap >play through act 1 and 2 again and manage to still find new things to do
I haven't even recruited this b***h yet, how do I get out of this groundhog day loop and progress to act 3
What? you don't anon. What you're doing is fine as you want to wait for the two big patches to release and fix all the quests not triggering or starting in act 1 2 and 3. Keep remaking characters, keep using mods until they patch the game up.
I will rate game 10/10 b4 act3 and 4/10 at best in act3, its simply painful to watch ball being dropped so hard, narrative switching from urgency and killing gods back to village troubles and wasting time. Plot and pacing pf act3 is an absolute mess. Not to mention emps becomes ultra-moronic double mary sure because him being driving force behind all events is clearly not enough, he must be a b as well. And to that end absolutely not give a shit over town or anything. What a disaster.
To this end quitting in act3 is a patrician way to play game. Act3 is unfinished shit, current game ends at act2. Waiting for definitive edition to fix arx. Wait, arx? No I meant act3. Silly me.
What issues. For me arx was just paced badly, every time i came to that giant map after already playing the game for 80h i got overwhelmed and dropped the game
I have 600h in dos2 and only finished it once in a coop where friend was dragging me to the finish line, didnt even read any of the latter dialogs or quests while i can recall the whole of thirst or second island by memory
Magic Missile is what you use if you want guaranteed damage (no saving throw, no attack roll).
Unless they're a spellcaster that has the Shield spell, at least.
spellsparkler with lightning charges to add additional lightning damage to the missiles while stacking other additional 1d4 damage boosts, I think there's a tadpole power that adds 1d4 psionic damage to attacks but you take 1d4 every turn
My favorite thing is watching absolute mad lads ripping into the writers over their dissatisfaction over the game. Since reviewers are'nt doing it, gotta take it into your own hands.
I did (almost) everything in act 1, 2, and 3. 106 hours total. The writing was inconsistent and it has that 'revenge of the sith' 5-minute wrap up at the end of act 3. Enjoy the ride (mechanically and visually), because the writing is lackluster past act 2, save a few good characters/moments. I still enjoyed it, though.
I did (almost) everything in act 1, 2, and 3. 106 hours total. The writing was inconsistent and it has that 'revenge of the sith' 5-minute wrap up at the end of act 3. Enjoy the ride (mechanically and visually), because the writing is lackluster past act 2, save a few good characters/moments. I still enjoyed it, though.
This makes for a grand total of 2 people that don't like nu-Wyll. I don't understand why he seems to be, if not popular, then at least "not worth mentioning" to so many people. His writing is fricking terrible.
You mean compared to old Wyll? I agree that old wyll was even more annoying since he was voiced by a wienerney Black person, but new wyll is still an insufferable dimwit with a deformed nog face.
No, I don't. Original Wyll, with his daddy issues and conflicted feelings about his contract, at least had the potential for an arc. Nu-Wyll is just an "I do the morally good thing" character, like Halsin. It's bland and static as frick.
I think it's supposed to be "did a bad thing for good reasons, now being punished and having to work in those constraints" type things, but it's just not interesting.
Only time I pull him out is when it's areas for his story beats.
They should have made him more of a showoff chuni. He's way too mellow and chill like they were afraid he was going to be a mega dork but they should have just gone all in on that and make it the point.
>This makes for a grand total of 2 people that don't like nu-Wyll
Make that 3. The frick is there to like about him?
He's an ugly nobody and his patreon is shit
What is wrong with the Black folk who find out about some unfinished or changed aspect of a story/game/w/e and make it their whole personality that it was actually the greatest thing ever and if the game only shipped with it it would be a 13/10 society-changing masterpiece?
It's like contrarianism mixed with 'muh sekrit klub' autism into a most noxious brew.
Because they linked the reason they dislike something to the changed content so the only reason why they dislike something isn't because of them but rather how the original vision was changed.
Overhyping mediocre features being replaced with the same amount of equally mediocre features and pretending the developers just pissed in your mouth is at least a mental illness, if not an identity.
>Overhyping mediocre features being replaced with the same amount of equally mediocre features
Yeah bro, who gives frick about ending slides in a CRPG, 1/3rd of the map getting cut and turning the remaining 2/3rd into a buggy mess because a frickload of quests are tied to that area? Who cares? The performances are taking a nosedive the second you reach the lower-city? Eh, nothing a few bear sex scenes won't solve. The 2 main bosses having way less content than Kethric? Zzzzzz, boring who plays RPGs for the story anyway amirite? You're a moron that feels attacked when people criticize a video game. Disgraceful.
to be fair, Balduran siding with the homiebrain is continuous with his character. if you reject/suspect him, he shows you that he had Duke Stelmane under mind control and tells you that could've been your relationship, but he chose to be nice. he also insists that the homiebrain is to be controlled and not destroyed. not sure why Larian lets you choose to destroy the brain if you side with Balduran, he just wants power/control. frick mindflayers
can you kill balduran and the brain in the end? Can you get rid of the parasite? Feels like the game is railroading me hard to not being able to do what i set out to
The Daisy stuff i think im happy that it got dropped, the whole down by the river thing just sounds tonewise too far off from the rest of the game for me.
Emps is still a mixed bag, but i enjoyed that suspicious frick well enough.
>muh upper city >two weeks!
Oh boy, people are going to regurgitate that shit forever even though Larian didn't actually say that. It was just some journo moron who made it up.
That's not how it works. They would have added it if they could. They didn't because they couldn't.
We're not getting any major content until the Definitive Edition regardless of how much people b***h about it.
>Larian didn't actually say that. It was just some journo moron who made it up.
It's literally a steam community update? >giving you a chance to explore the menacing roads of the Outer City, the opulent estates of the Upper City, and the dark alleys and pubs of the Lower City.
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1086940/announcements/detail/3649651368763455643
TAV and Dark Urge not being the same is the biggest fricking crime of this list, Dark Urge is the closest thing to a canon character one can play, and the narrative is clearly and explicitly meant for a dark urge character. >laezel being split between vlaakith and emperor due to evil manipulation >shadowheart being split between shar and selune due to evil manipulation >Wyll being split between following mizora or not due to an evil b***h manipulating >minthara being split by absolute mindbrokery or general drow frickery due to an evil brain manipulating the plot >Gale being split between his love for god magussy and moving on >Karlach dealing with freedom vs enslavement due to evil hells frickery >the dead three have weight with the PC instead of being villains of the week for a rando to fix (like BG 1/2) >withers being an actual character instead of a camp mechanic >the NPCs that are useless and window dressing unless Durge (funny clown tiefling AKA fleshpaste) >Durge having to navigate bhaalfrickery mimicking the struggle with balduran-Tulpa frickery >the endings without Durge are just reduced Durge cutscenes, literally just stopping where Durge endings and cutscenes continue >the choice to go full tentacle is more weighty due to wanting to possibly escape bhaal soul frickery by bypassing your soul entirely >best endings are locked behind Durge (full mind-control ‘blood for blood god’ orgy or telling the dead three + emperor + netherbrain to FRICK OFF and finally being free from manipulation) >generally more dialogue choices in all contexts >more camp interactions >character creation is exact same as TAV
Yes, they only needed to remove from the game the force Alfira or random bard NPC murder in the camp and the force kick the squirrel against the tree and Tav wasn't needed. Because in the end, both good Dark Urge and bad Dark Urge are interesting.
It's pretty clear the game needed another month or two of polish, but Starfield forced them to release early so they wouldn't be in direct competition with it for sales. What we're playing currently is more like a version 0.95 beta missing a few maps and a handful of important endings to pieces of content right at the end.
I don't know anon. They removed Gortash and placed him in the lower end baldurs gate, have us climbing through some entrance in the lower part to reach casadors mansion, and have orin stuck in the sewers in lower city. So once they put upper city back in, they're going to re-do all that?
>removed Gortash [from the Upper City]
Do you have evidence for this? I know it seems obvious that new not-king = found in rich sector, but I don't recall any pre-launch content or in-game content suggesting he's supposed to be in the Upper City. >Orin stuck in the sewers in lower city
With the conflict the two have in act 3, that actually makes a lot of sense if Gortash was supposed to roost in Upper.
>act 2 >try to just go to baldurs gate through army >no cutscenes, end up in oublette under dungeon >free plate armor and parasite upgrade so you SHOULD do this >lose no equipment >lose no health >lose no spellslots >head up into the dungeon >everyone is still dead because I already killed them freeing the tiefBlack folk and gnomes of peace >head outside >already killed their drider >already killed the doctor >already killed nere >already stopped their attack on last light >already killed a dozen scrying eyes of the cult >true soul cultists STILL not aggro >true souls still think you're their little best buddy going to get the thing... that can render their boss mortal >your choices matter guys!
worse >have to play this all again for a bugged Drow on an "evil" playthrough
>act 2 finale >emperor reveals himself >tell him i dont trust him and fight him >knock him down to 0 health after a tough fight >cutscene plays saying you suddenly understand he was telling the truth >forces you to join his side
seriously? frick off. worst of all if you wait until the end of the fight and try to kill the emperor again you just get game over. really wish there was some sort of alternate route here
> you suddenly understand he was telling the truth no he wasn't, the memories he has
shown you are fabricated, he's manipulating you from within and trying to get you to trust him completely, he only thinks of you as his puppet and will drop the facade only after you force him to show you his REAL memories. you have two options: become a mind flayer and suck his brain out after defeating the final boss OR free the githianki prince and then fight the emperor, I enjoyed fricking him and then sucking his brain out at the last second personally
Who's the artist? Reverse image search didn't find anything..
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Larian hates the idea of you playing without their OCs, that's why the hirelings are essentially just more of their OCs. The entire point of hirelings is to have custom characters, and yet you can't customize anything about them. They're probably dev, or worse backers, OCdonuts.
Playing without DLAA even on max settings hair looks like shit. I was surprised when I turned DLAA off and switched to the other AA options, looks miles better with DLAA on.
>hirelings
They're customs made via the LAN workaround
10 months ago
Anonymous
Wait, how the frick did you get these hirelings? Aren't all hirelings ugly premade shits that you can't customize?
The fact that they don't actually have a custom hirelings feature by default already is EXTREMELY puzzling, especially since Withers just defines all the hirelings as random fricks with tadpoles who worship the absolute, that just sounds like asspull speak for "oh yeah create a character let's pretend they existed before 5 seconds ago". SURELY it is something they are going to add in the features patch they're working on.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I could have sworn they said they were gonna be fully customizable too before the game came out
10 months ago
Anonymous
I could have sworn they said they were gonna be fully customizable too before the game came out
Larian hates the idea of you playing without their OCs, that's why the hirelings are essentially just more of their OCs. The entire point of hirelings is to have custom characters, and yet you can't customize anything about them. They're probably dev, or worse backers, OCdonuts.
10 months ago
Anonymous
This will be a mod 100% or just added later because people want it, official mod kit releases when PS5 version launches.
10 months ago
Anonymous
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Larian hates the idea of you playing without their OCs, that's why the hirelings are essentially just more of their OCs. The entire point of hirelings is to have custom characters, and yet you can't customize anything about them. They're probably dev, or worse backers, OCdonuts.
This anon is correct. Div OS2 was the same way and had the same LAN workaround to make a party of 4. Larian is absolutely one of those studios that thinks they know better than players, and not letting you make a full custom party is one of those things.
10 months ago
Anonymous
It still blows my mind that reaction weren't supposed to be featured in BG3 and it took 2 years of b***hing for Larian to cave in.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Only their writers
Gameplay wise they let you do anything you want
10 months ago
Anonymous
I dont remember, can you have some sort of a relationship between custom characters in dos? There are traces of i4 in dos1 although it doesnt progress very far
10 months ago
Anonymous
They want you to play their gay hirelings.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Thats smart
Still cant change them if you change your mind throughout the game
Side with goblins in the goblin-druid conflict in act 1, then rescue her in act 2. She's intended to be evil exclusive, but it's technically possible to have Halsin and Minthara both get recruited. I assume this will be addressed in a post-launch patch.
>Is she evil route exclusive?
Practically, yeah. It's a shame. I didn't bother going into act 3 with an evil character. It felt like it wasn't fleshed out. Usually a mix between reminding me that I killed the druids, and giving me the same dialog I'd get if I were a good character using deception. After she joined the party was the point I gave up. They try to give her some sort of development, but it's so slight and has so little follow-up it feels marginally better than a hireling.
>It felt like it wasn't fleshed out.
Act 3 isn't fleshed out in general. trying to play a good character here and I'm forced to be butt buddies with the mass murdering brain-eating cannibal and watch his "sympathic" sob story. And an evilgay would be getting the same scenes, too. Everything from Nightsong on is just a big railroad honestly, damn shame since Act 1 and 2 were so cool.
not to mention after 80 hours of play I come to realize that Dark Urge is literally just the actual story and if you played a custom you cucked yourself out of the main character's background. I was saving it for an evil playthrough and now I realize there is no "evil playthrough" in the game at all
Act 1 and Act 2 Minthara are probably entirely different entities according to the game's scripting. She's just called Minthara and not Nightwarden Minthara if she survives to Act 2. And yes after you recruit her her stats are different to what they are if you inspect her in Act 1.
I can't help but see her and think of how much hotter she'd have been if this game came out a decade ago. Back then she'd have been a 10/10 sex goddess but since it's modern day we have to settle for a 6/10 hag.
99% of images probably use Tav's Hair Salon, and the same modder has the face preset mods too. The only other big hair mod is the one that de-couples the unique hair like Orins from Orin so anyone can use it
I found these mods in my search
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/1120
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/483
but ill keep trying
99% of images probably use Tav's Hair Salon, and the same modder has the face preset mods too. The only other big hair mod is the one that de-couples the unique hair like Orins from Orin so anyone can use it
ok, i need to know if it's possible to save the tieflings AND minthara. i'm playing moralgay but i also want to impregnate a cute drow zealot. should i just wait for the first big patch and hope larian lets you do both? can i edit game flags with a toybox-style mod like in Pathfinder games yet?
No
You get 3 choices, ignore the grove and let Minthara kill them without getting involved. This allows you to keep all other companions without them throwing a fit and leaving.
Join the grove attack, Minthara will celebrate the victory with you and frick you in camp, you lose out on wyll, halsin and the tomboy tiefling joining you.
Save the grove, get halsin and it forces you to kill minthara
Question is, can you romance Minthara if you get her later and ignore the act 1 main mission.
Who knows, I guess we have to wait when this buggy mess is fixed.
I'm not touching it untill they add hireling customization.
if you fricked her in act 1, after you rescue her she says something along the lines of maybe forming a new relationship so it's possible it's there, just bugged
Pregnancy is not happening this patch, if we're lucky it'll be in patch 2.
Pathfinder runs on unity while BG3 runs on a homegrown engine (Divinity 4.0) so you need to wait for them to release modding tools like in DOS2
Last light harpers become zombies other than the head lady. Genuinely not a clue what happened to the girl who was taken. I've just paused after the might with the unkillable zombie guy and she hasn't reappeared since she was taken by the winged feller, who I murdered on my through the tower.
I said prevent, anon. My last run I yolo'd with first Marcus and helped Jaheira clear the zombies. I did it earlier but alt f4'd to go eat dinner without saving like a dumb dumb.
I saved her from being kidnapped so I can't exactly comment given that it was my only playthrough and I don't know the differences, but as far as I could tell, nothing
you can still infiltrate the tower pretending to be a true soul, walk around mostly freely, etc, until you get given a quest to go help balthazar get to nightsong
Don't think there should be a way to convert her act 1. It would make the whole grove questline void if the most competent commander can just be convinced to become good after talking to what she thinks is another chosen disciple of a god that talks and gives her powers and has commanded her to eradicate the grove. >guess it wouldn't be the dumbest roll to convince check in the game though
Yeah but you're like level 7-10 in act 2, you've grown in power. Fresh faced just off the nautiloid without much of an idea of what's going on, I dunno doesn't fit for me. I still love my evil wife that I fixed by tricking both the dream persona in my head and the absolute to sneak into moonrise, free her from the dungeon mindbreak midgets and have her turn into a vengeance seeking radiant paladin
This always surprises me. Like, pay me for a week and I'll play your game for 80+ hours and comment on anything that seems weird. I would love that job.
Waterfall model is so 90's dude, nowadays they're literally making it up right until (and past) release date (because we can just patch it later). Tests lose a lot of their value because stuff keeps changing all the time. There is no freeze.
Everything past act 1 is untested.
Larian are fricking israelite Black folk. They had paypigs play the early access, saying it's privilege, while those morons reported every bug they found, for free.
Then the game comes out, not a single reviewer plays past act 1, 10/10 scores start rolling.
It's not really a redemption arc, she is still a power hungry, Machiavellian boss wife who suits my DUrge perfectly. She just gets freed from the Absolute's mindcontrol.
It's not really a redemption arc, she is still a power hungry, Machiavellian boss wife who suits my DUrge perfectly. She just gets freed from the Absolute's mindcontrol.
Yeah, it's not like she goes from being evil to good. At most it's a change from Chaotic Evil absolute-worshipping genocidal maniac to some Lawful Evil scheming power hungry boss b***h. Her redemption arc is at most being at least a little regretful at the mindless slaughter of the tieflings/druids while she was brainwashed, but not really giving too much of a frick that it occupies her head rent free.
To be honest, it makes a lot more sense with The Dark Urge. She eventually chats with you and comes to the realization that, while she slaughtered those people under the influence of The Absolute, you were doing it of your own free will. She doesn't like this, so I guess it's safe to say her being your companion is more because both you and her have a change of heart after Act 1 concludes.
>while she slaughtered those people under the influence of The Absolute, you were doing it of your own free will. She doesn't like this
I just said I did it to impress her and she Approved.
Good little simp. You get less approval from her for that option than the one where you tell her it was to infiltrate the absolute and find out more about tadpoles.
It's just part of the cut content that was datamined. Since her story was supposed to include her being pregnant regardless if the kid is yours or not my guess is that's the daughter it's referring to.
Do Drow know what gender the baby is even though they literally only just conceived it? I figured she has a daughter already from that dialogue. The only place in the game I can think of where she could die outside of your party and not by your hand would be in Moonrise when she's being tortured. Or can you speak with dead on dead party members?
Huh, the more you know. Has anyone tried it on Minthara in act 1?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Just tried it, it works.
10 months ago
Anonymous
This is the dialogue tree in use for that. >GOB_DrowCommander_Dead.html
10 months ago
Anonymous
Huh okay, so there is nothing about her having a daughter there. What about if you banged her at the end of act 1 and then speak with dead on her at Moonrise? Does that yield any results?
10 months ago
Anonymous
I don't have a save there, but I assume that's what this is
>Act2/Epilogue/SCE_Minthara_Dead.html
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Destined to be--- matron mother... House Baenre..
That's just not some throw away mook drow background. Is that still the most powerful house in 5e?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Weird. When I did it it said she wouldn't speak to her killers.
So one thing I've learned so far in the game (after fumbling around in Act 2) is to create choke points with your party because you will always be fricking outnumbered by enemies that have more hp than you so fighting them one by one is a death sentence.
I had to get rid of Karlach for this drow b***h but thankfully that orc pally you get from Withers is just as good.
This fight especially was fricking brutal what the frick. Reminds me of the oil rig battle in DivOS2.
Mind you I'm just basing stuff off from DivOs2 where the game initially had you fight equal numbers of enemies and often times battles were initiated where you had the advantage or had plenty of cover and vantage points. In BG3 so far nearly all the fights has you surrounded unless you scout ahead every single area like crazy expecting an encounter with every step.
Wyll is the Jacob is this game, not even having a succubus as your patron can make him interesting. They did an 1080 on hios character compared to EA right? How was he like before?
Almost like getting the same AIDS ridden homosexual who fricked up writing him the first time around to write him again is not going to get you any better results
True, what kind of moron would task a game journalist to write a video game character AND rehire him to REWRITE that character once it turns out that no one gives a frick about Warlock Low Tier God.
He hated goblins and lost his eye to a named goblin who was in the act 1 goblin area, felt more like a Blade than the current version because of his self-absorbed moronation.
No dad.
Was still a slave to devils and didn't mind it.
I wished we could replace him with Zevlor ..... would be nice to give the old paladin a redemption arc. Instead were stuck with a magical Black person.
His story is just moronic. he's so full of himself that he got duped into becoming a devil's b***h because of his own pride, and the only resolution to the story is to tell him "yeah Wyll you were right, your dad should've loved you more, go Wyll!"
meanwhile the great and mighty devil that he's forced to serve >barely gives him any powers >makes tons of threats she never delivers on >is a complete jobber who actually needs you to RESCUE her later on
And what secondary aspects does his character have? He likes to dance, which you don't get to see unless you agree to have gay sex with him I guess. Uhh, what else... he gives generic advice during party banter? yeah he's just boring. The only interesting things he has to say are totally hypocritical. >i'm warning you %PLAYER%.... nevah EVAH make a deal... wit a devil........ trust me... i know............ >but i dont regret it at all, i did the right thing, it was a good decision, nope never regret it once >now help me get out of this contract QUICKLY HELP ME
His story is just moronic. he's so full of himself that he got duped into becoming a devil's b***h because of his own pride, and the only resolution to the story is to tell him "yeah Wyll you were right, your dad should've loved you more, go Wyll!"
meanwhile the great and mighty devil that he's forced to serve >barely gives him any powers >makes tons of threats she never delivers on >is a complete jobber who actually needs you to RESCUE her later on
And what secondary aspects does his character have? He likes to dance, which you don't get to see unless you agree to have gay sex with him I guess. Uhh, what else... he gives generic advice during party banter? yeah he's just boring. The only interesting things he has to say are totally hypocritical. >i'm warning you %PLAYER%.... nevah EVAH make a deal... wit a devil........ trust me... i know............ >but i dont regret it at all, i did the right thing, it was a good decision, nope never regret it once >now help me get out of this contract QUICKLY HELP ME
oh yeah and also, warlocks are just a lame as frick class. they spam their blast, that's it. Who wants that in their party, really?
you forgot >WE WUZ BLADE OF FRONTIERS N SHIET
yeah kek, that too. >NO NO SEE ALL THIS COOL STUFF HAPPENED AND IT WAS TOTALLY AWESOME AND I'M A HUGE HERO >nobody ever recognizes him or talks about him at all >none of this cool shit happens on screen
Which is fricking moronic because their CEO was jacking off the upper city literal weeks before the game was out. I have no idea who's in charge of their PR but they should be given the boot ASAP
Honestly, looking back, I actually enjoyed Fort Joy and much of Reaper's Coast.
Act 1 in BG 3 is a bit of a slog. Act 2 has really nice looking vistas but encounters are even much more cancerous.
Umm no chud, that would allow you to bypass our vibrant and diverse cast. One of the hirelings is none binary, we don't want you not experiencing that vibrant diversity now would we?
>start BG3 >no character attributes rolling you can spontan hours in >lowest attributes are 8
This ruines the 2nd playthrough because characters are nearly the same on act 1
If you want to have fun in this boring game I recommend going for NON charisma playthrough and hardcore respec of all companions. I'm playing as a mystical trickster rogue wizard multiclass who fails at dialogue checks but very good at background checks (high int). He has to sneak around and use magic to solve issues unconventionally. He can't persuade people to his cause, but he can persuade them he's competent at other things, like being smart.
I also used shadowheart as a druid the moment I unlocked respec.
it's 5e, all characters are the same
everyone can do everything everyone else does, every spellcaster can use all scrolls, anyone can make potions, everyone beats enemies by knocking them off ledges and shooting meme arrows with their crossbow
the only meaningful class progression is gaining 2 levels in fighter for an extra action
Is she fixed yet or do I need to wait to play the game? >Just play a good playtrough now and then lat-
No, I want my first playtrough to be the evil one.
Still broken, wait for patches. She's still got some of my favorite dialogue as a companion but romance etc is broken. Don't listen to the anons who say you miss too much content. Wyll is boring. Halsin is boring and thinks I want to frick him, Karlach is ok I guess. The tieflings are all theiving shits except for Zevlor and I hate them more than goblins
This might be the completionist mindset in me speaking but wouldn't killing companions mean losing out on a lot of exp? Or am I overthinking it and the exp gain is nominal?
>really hyped when I saw this scene in the previews >was actually unnerving as frick when you get to it in game >...and it just ends
Did I fricking miss a questline or something?
>as long as the important tieflings make it out
They don't. Which is moronic as Minthara is both imprisoned for a failed raid and thieflings died in the same raid.
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's ridiculous. Frick it, I don't like Karlach anyway.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The most you could get (pre today's patch) is Minthara, Halsin, Karlach and Wyll but no tieflings.
That's pretty quick actually.
If if turns out her romance is fixed I'll have to consider playing this sooner than expected. She's basically the only thing that makes the game worth it from the outside.
You still can't date Minthara unless it requires a brand new playthrough. Checked several save points through act 2 and act 3 and nothing new triggered. The only new thing that triggered was Gale being mad I had accepted the contract with Raphael, despite the fact I never did and had killed him 20 hours prior. Great patch.
>Shadowheart should more easily follow up on her proposed romance moments in Act III.
What does this mean? I already got the beach sex and talk after but what else is there?
"Made it less ambiguous that you're starting a romance with Gale when choosing certain dialogue options.
During Gale's spell-teaching scene, you now have the option to picture a future with Gale that falls somewhere in between kissing him and kicking him in the head."
Is this them saying you can actually be friends with gale without these scens having butthole or frick me only options lmao
In EA, you didn't choose to make a guardian during character creation. The game simply asked you "who do you see in your dreams" and let you design your dream waifu, which people called "Daisy". She took the place of the guardian and rather than beckon you to use the illithid powers, she bid you to abandon your quest and stay with her forever in your dreams, by a river. It's why the song "down by the river" makes no sense in the full release, since all it's significance was about choosing to stay with Daisy. It's revealed at some point that Daisy is actually the worm in your head, who is sentient and is in love with you (or is using you or trying to take over your body, we'll never know because it was all cut).
Playing it when it first came out and playing it now is an interesting experience. The intro when you're trying to escape that ship, I remember there were a few people at the front trying to manage cannons or something? Then upon release, those people are just gone. Or rather, that area to access that place is blocked off.
>super supportive of astarion >supportive of SH becoming a dark justiciar >disproves of laezel turning her back on vlaakith >more interaction with other companions than halsin and karlach
its so weird
Minthara's writer really, really loves the character.
I bet he's fricking heartbroken that she's not only behind so many barriers of entry for most players to ever recruit and experience her content, but that she launched bugged and the people that did go through those hoops couldn't experience her right anyway.
There's actually follower dialogue in there. Not much. Maybe four lines of Minthara talking directly to a follower Halsin.
Meaning at some point in development, it had to have been possible to have your cake and eat it too. But they b***hed out for whatever reason.
I read somewhere that you can recruit her on a good playthrough if you knock her out in Act 1 because she still shows up in Act 2. Was that bullshit? I really can't be bothered replaying the game until I'm sure it's got all the content in it so basically in 2 years when the DE is out.
You COULD recruit her but with the caveat that the game treats thieflings as having died. So you can still get Halsin, Karlach and Wyll if you recruit her but you lose some quests and traders.
Now with the first patch you can't get her and Halsin both
wait what, don't you have to frick over the grove/refugees to recruit minthala and doesn't that piss off karlach so much that she leaves, what did I miss
10 months ago
Anonymous
Karlach, Wyll and Hallsin all leave
it only makes the game better that way
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's the current case, but that's datamined dialogue (not in-game, but still in the data) from when (at some point in development) it was possible to have Karlach, Wyll, and Minthara in a party and when Minthara had a pregnancy storyline.
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's the current case, but that's datamined dialogue (not in-game, but still in the data) from when (at some point in development) it was possible to have Karlach, Wyll, and Minthara in a party and when Minthara had a pregnancy storyline.
It's still possible, you don't kill/knock her out in the goblin fort and you rescue her in a2. You can't resolve the refugee situation in a1 in any way. This lets you keep Karlach, Wyll and Minthara. Pre-patch you could keep Halsin too.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Wouldn't this just kill Karlach anyway?
I assume all the tieflings die, you just don't get flack for it because you didn't help.
But if they all die, so does Dammon. And without him, Karlach is a time bomb and her quest is deader in the water than it already was.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Wouldn't this just kill Karlach anyway?
No, she's with you if you recruit her. >I assume all the tieflings die
Yup
It's a schroedinger's raid.
Minthara gets punished for failing the raid on the grove.
Rapefugees die in the raid.
Larian.
Knock out is a bugged bullshit that only works on Minsk. Everyone else stays on the ground until you long rest and when you do the game register them as dead.
How do you guys like the idea of arcane trickster/warlock crossclass?
I really like the idea of having myself have low hit chances with the sneak advantage but I feel like tha’ts all arcane trickster has. So instead I’d cross into warlock or wizard for big spells.
I’ve never crossclassed before
Funny thing is, Minthara when asked about companions has something to say about Wyll and Karlach, even though they leave your party if you murderized the grove as she wants you to.
Wait huh? "companion" isn't this the evil npc b***h from the grove, you can bring her through to act 3??? Just how many hidden companions does this game have
The patch notes a few times references fixes to the Upper City...? I've heard it was yanked (haven't reached Act 3 yet), but why would they fix shit in the patch notes for UC if it's not there?
That's not a degenerate tattoo. It's a house brand. Specifically house Baenre.
When you're part of Lolths most consistantly favored and power house in Menzobarranzan, you want others to know at a glance.
That's not a degenerate tattoo. It's a house brand. Specifically house Baenre.
When you're part of Lolths most consistantly favored and power house in Menzobarranzan, you want others to know at a glance.
I always do evil playthrough and just shank everybody but I think there's a journal somewhere in their house
10 months ago
Anonymous
There's a hidden chest within the inner grove. Lockpick & steal Kagha's mcguffin that'll tell you to go to the swamps. After that you should be able to confront the shadow homies
Game needs:
1. Allow me to customize race of hirelings so I can make all drow squad.
2. Fix Minthara cut/bugged stuff.
Then I could maybe look past other shit and play all drow murderhobo squad and roleplay it that way.
What's the best class for dark urge?
I'm planning to do 2nd playthrough after some more patches drop but have no idea how to roll.
First one was bard Tav, Shadow, Laezel and Gale.
Ve been thinking about Minthara, Astarion and someone else (maybe Gale again specced into sorceror).
Maybe warlock then?
I sweet talked and fricked Kharlach because shadowheart refused to put out.
Immediately afterwards I went to shadowheart and she knew. I said I would drop Kharlach for her and it worked out. Kharlach chimped tf out after we left camp and her approval hit rock bottom kek.
What happens when you cheat on Minthara?
We already kissed in ACT 1 doe. Does every companion know when you fricked one? Both Karlach and Shadowheart knew everything wtihout me telling
I wanted a harem so bad.
>Does every companion know when you fricked one?
Anon everyone sleeps within 20 feet of everyone else and everyone either sleeps on a bedroll next to the campfire or in a tent with no sound proofing.
Of fricking course everyone knows when two members of the party frick. Especially when they go off together in the middle of the night to someplace secluded.
Hell the first time you frick Karlach she does it right in the middle of camp.
You can't cheat on Minthara. If you take off your clothes after starting to romance her you will notice a wiener cage on your character, it is unequippable unless you pass a very high (40) persuasion check.
Shadowheart is super noisy and eavesdrops on you all the time unless you romance her. If you romance her she’s a big sweetheart and doesn’t do that.
We already kissed in ACT 1 doe. Does every companion know when you fricked one? Both Karlach and Shadowheart knew everything wtihout me telling
I wanted a harem so bad.
>mental link with everyone around you >multiple cutscenes saying you share memories >"UGH why won't anyone mind their business"
morons
Does anyone know exactly how much of Minthara's stuff has been fixed? I'm debating trying another evil playthrough for her romance but by the patchnotes I'm not sure what has changed exactly.
>Undergoing partial ceremorphosis will now rot your teeth!
NOOO frick. I just want the powers without becoming a nasty freak, having fricked up teeth and crazy veins will ruin the romamce scenes
First playthrough now with good paladin turning shadowheart into tradwife, later evil playthroughs with Minthara PLAP PLAP Plot added back in definitive edition
did they fix her late game content yet?
They haven't fixed anything for a really long time. So much for the 1000 bugfix patch they mentioned like 2 or 3 weeks ago.
>20 days is a really long time
holy zoomer
Almost a month for a freshly launched game that needs hot fixes is bad.
i mean they've done plenty of hotfixing
its just that games major bugs are beyond the scope of 'hotfixing'
>i mean
out
That's still coming in a mega patch, probably around the console release.
>why didn't they release 1000 bugfixes within 14 days of the game's release!
Unless they're gamebreaking, I don't see a huge rush for it. The game runs very well for me, but I've heard Act 3 can get rough
WHY DID THEY FRICKING RELEASE THE GAME AT ALL homosexual? why do you morons keep accepting unfinished games being released?
because you homosexuals kept shitposting at them to release the game early with your shazamposting and
>3 years in early access
posting
>shazamposting
>people b***hing about something=shazam posting.
lol, lmao even
They felt the need to rush the release before starfield. That's why I felt the need to pirate the game. Simple as
They literally shat their pants before Starfield and Armored Core + Elden Ring DLC.
Thanks for beta testing, PC mustards.
Shut the frick up. I hope you forget to eat tonight.
>Aug 15th was 2-3 weeks ago
Where does the time go?
y2k was 23 years ago
>1000 bugfix patch they mentioned like 2 or 3 weeks ago
iterations are literally in the steamdb you moron, and they've been going crazy with new ones recently which means it should release soon
>iterations are literally in the steamdb
What do you mean?
https://steamdb.info/app/1086940/history/
PLEASE RELEASE BEFORE SEPTEMBER. AMEN
Sadly it looks like it's going to be a day one patch for the console release
>Larian has confirmed that, as you would expect, all current and future improvements and fixes will be reflected in the PlayStation 5 version of the game.
They are going to release the patches before the PS5 release.
I think it'd make sense to do it a few days before the PS5 release just to make sure nothing else broke
What are you on about anon ? It's not even arrive yet.
It literally just came out.
>posts that didn't age well
*insert jester award here*
it just came out you moronic Black person
>So much for the 1000 bugfix patch they mentioned like 2 or 3 weeks ago.
uh looks like you triggered the larian legion
I would not expect any big structural changes to companions or quests lines till patch 2. Maybe not even till next year, the game really neeeded another year.
she's the only character in this game that i can stand.
Minthara is surprisingly one of the best companions in this game and she's borked for now. Imagine her in her full glory, pregnancy and all.
what did the 7 man cuck squad mean by this
Turns out they were completely vindicated. There's about as much cuckshit in this game as you'd expect from a modern WRPG writer
Examples?
>Laezel is the most loyal waifu aside from Minthy
Was it all a long con
Of course it's the sole american at Larian (at the time) that makes these tweets and has pronouns
8 INT is just anybody who's not a wizard because 5E is fricked.
This. There's virtually no reason to not dump stats you don't benefit directly from and the only reason why you'd put your leftover 2 points into them if for the +1 saving throw
my high charisma rouge with a +9 to persuasion rolls talking himself out of everything and convincing everyone of anything says otherwise
Why is 5E so shit?
Is there even a point in having uneven stats?
Why do they exist if there is not?
Only reason to have an uneven stat is if there's a decent Feat you want that increases it by 1 in addition to having an effect you want.
There's only a few that are worthwhile in BG3, but a lot more in 5e.
wait wait wait wait wait. all my stats are uneven, every single one. should i respec?
I think with the number of ability points you get you always end with one uneven number, but you want even numbers for your important stats, your ability modifier only increases for every 2 points in an ability
You can make it so they're all even, but it will mean that whatever stat is most important for you isn't as high as it could be and would absolutely require you to spend the feat on bumping it up with two points as opposed to a feat that gives you +1 to that ability and also gives you some other benefit.
pete's sake. can't they just punch me in the face and tell me to make them even?
This. I wanted my priest to be good at concentration saves so I started at 17 and later gave him +1 con+advantage feat. This is very powerful on support classes. Same goes for my bard college of lore; I love those hypnosis spells lasting for as much as I want them to last.
There's no point in having ability scores at all since all you get from it is the derived modifiers. The only time your raw ability score interacts with the game is i think jump distance and carry weight (Strength in both cases). One of the reasons 5E is scuffed and the reason the stat system is the way it is is because it's part of the "Brand". It's a relatively simple system to play, and it's "visibility" makes it easy to find groups for but there's much better designed/granular/fun systems even for narrative focused games.
>Uneven stats
Not really, at best They're for having like 17 X, 15 dex of the flop for a gish character so you can get two stat bonuses off of 1 ASI or theoretically for half feats but no one is taking half feats when the level cap is 12
Tying feats to ASI is a mistake, it makes it so you WILL take ASI at least twice to get 20 in your only stat that matters 90% of the time and competing with skill bonuses means feats have to be broken (like flat +10 damage) to compete or just be never ever tier dogshit.
>Tying feats to ASI is a mistake, it makes it so you WILL take ASI at least twice to get 20 in your only stat that matters 90% of the time and competing with skill bonuses means feats have to be broken (like flat +10 damage) to compete or just be never ever tier dogshit.
Completely agreed, and it only happened this way because 5e was originally made to appeal to people who liked earlier editions of D&D who hated the idea of feats (og, 1e, 2e).
Considering that their anniversary version of 5e is coming out soon and they're no longer really worrying about appealing to those earlier edition players, they honestly should completely separate the two, but they're chickening out and keeping it the way it currently is.
>he doesn't roll for ability scores
I reject any form of stat rolling outside of d20's down the line with no rerolls.
>8 int
>out articulates your entire party at once with one sentence
What did they mean by this
Her dialogue has a mostly complex vocabulary and her background is a noble, it is funny how non-representative her int score is.
You don't need to be a genius to speak well.
8 int is like borderline moronic barbarian mode though. 10 is meant to be average. 17+ is genius mode.
Wrong, 6 is dipshit moron, 8 is just a little slower than average. People seriously don't understand that a 12 int is not you being a fricking genius, that's 20, the game is heavily catered towards being 10+ but an 8 is not crippling muscle atrophy if strength, permanently greased fingers and legs if dex, glass bone syndrome if con and so on. You're just subpar, not literally moronic, 6 int is where you literally are starting to go too stupid since you go any lower and you don't understand languages.
Do you know what the word "borderline" means, friend?
Yeah, 6 is your actual borderline and threshold, not 8.
You think being barely able to learn a primary language is only the borderline and threshold? If 6 is that and any lower is totally illiterate, 6 is still moronic.
6-7 is Troll tier intellect, barely capable of articulating any sort of language at all. 8-9 is fricking stupid no matter how you spin it.
Guys.
Minsc is 8 Int 6 Wis.
8 Int.
What "borderline"?
>minsc is same int as minthara
>6 Wis
what happens if you respec him, kinda weird since you can only drop a stat to 8 yourself
Have you seen Minsc's stats? Marian really didn't give a shit about the RP of character stats and just gave them cookie cutter meta stats instead.
>Marian really didn't give a shit about the RP of character stats and just gave them cookie cutter meta stats instead.
ah yeah give them useless stats for rp that doesn't exist
8 INT is roughly equivalent to an 85 or 90 IQ. Genius does start at ~16/17, since that's where you have 130+ IQ.
The problem is that this only applies if you assume everybody has their stats distributed through a 3d6 roll, which isn't the case with post-3e D&D.
With point buy and 5e's inflated point distributions, INT really means nothing of importance.
Every point is 10 IQ. 100 IQ = 10 INT
It makes sense because 110 IQ people pretty much have the same intellectual capacity as 100 IQ people. Once you get to 120 IQ you clearly outclass lesser beings in terms of careers and studies you can efficiently (work/effort to result ratio) and successfully undertake.
Since expert wizards are beings that can bend reality and have incomprehensible powers, its natural that their maximum IQ is beyond our Earthly, apex human standards (160 ~ 170 IQ).
With how many 15 int plus randos there are in dnd settings this just doesn't make sense that they are all 150+ iq
>Every point is 10 IQ. 100 IQ = 10 INT
But it isn't. The actual distribution of INT corresponds pretty strongly to IQ in distribution.
>you clearly outclass lesser beings in terms of careers and studies you can efficiently (work/effort to result ratio) and successfully undertake.
That's because higher IQ provides marginal benefits that are extremely difficult to achieve otherwise. When so many outcomes depend on marginal/edge cases, just a bit of an extra push can be the difference between success and failure.
>Since expert wizards are beings that can bend reality and have incomprehensible powers, its natural that their maximum IQ is beyond our Earthly, apex human standards
Wizards wouldn't be much different from modern-day physicists and mathematicians. Most of them are in the 120-130 IQ range, despite the fact that their work is reality-twisting and incomprehensible to the lay person.
Int isn't necessarily what makes you a well spoken person. Rather it's what allows you to know multiple languages.
Being expressive and good with words is more a cha thing, I'd say.
She might only know one or two languages, but she's charismatic in how she uses them.
Or I dunno, its been a while since I've tabletop'd
Any idiot can repeat words, what I mean is that she's articulate which means that she's able to express thought and feelings precisely which requires a certain amount of thought and reflection
If you character has less than 9 int he can't speak well at all.
why is persuasion CHA and not CHA+INT then
I think It only means that shes not fully literate. Though being unable to read well implies in a poorer speech
INT * 10 = IQ
they really may as well have given her a higher PB to reflect her status, seeing how you give up so many characters and quests to bring her along
stats in 5e mean nothing, the mechanics are basically 100% divorced from the game
i have a masters in english language & linguistics but had to retake high school mathematics
>lit major
>low intelligence
Checks out
shame she had all that unfinished content, she was my favorite of my companions and had the best dialogue
Devs said her romance triggers are bugged and will be fixed in the upcoming patch along with a ton of other shit.
I don't trust them to fix anything but I hope they do
>I don't trust them
Well I do because they changed entire plot aspects of their previous games in subsequent patches.
I hope you're right, and I really enjoyed the game but I can't help but feel gypped by the fact they knowingly released earlier than they should have to preempt starfield. I just stopped mid second playthrough and will wait for at least confirmation the Minthara stuff has been fixed because Halsin and Wyll are so fricking boring I just want my drow warlord wife back
And this shit is why I don't trust them
If they have to fix the fricking plot in patches, in their long-ass RPG, I don't feel like playing it anymore
Same shit with Elden Ring, they patched a bunch of unfinished quests while I was mid-playthrough and it just killed all interest to keep going
People were saying to wait for the definitive edition even before BG3 came out. No one is forcing you to play it now, the game will be rock solid when they release definitive edition a year from now.
I save her from being mindbroken and she retook her oath to be a good paladin, perma neutral relationship, no dialogue choices have ever appeared for the whole rest of act 2
>Minthara I want to speak to you about something private
>Very well
>Only option is nevermind
FRICK YOU LARIAN DON'T ALLOW ME TO LITERALLY FIX HER THEN SHES MORE BROKEN THAN EVER
she has some good dialogues at the end of act2
You're lying.
see
Black person
Is there video of this?
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Thanks brah.
Shadowbawd did it better
>Are you quite sure you have a friend called Shadowbawd? Not an enemy?
was there any mention for the reason why she has so much lost content?
Last minute decision.
She wasn't supposed to be a playable party member at all but due to her popularity the devs considered it but they didn't have the time to implement all of her features so we got the barebones stuff
Seems strange to me it did not occur to them that a commanding domineering Drow female would be super popular.
Have you seen their dev team?
They claim that halsin was made a companion "because of his popularity" but I think that's a total lie. They probably intended minthara to piss off the straight huwhite mail gamers and were butthurt about her being popular. There were probably shouting matches in meetings about how problematic it would be to make minthara a romance options, so they compromised by making the gay elf who cucks you a companion as well.
>They probably intended minthara to piss off the straight huwhite mail gamers
Why? Human males dominate female drow.
modern game writers are completely out of touch with reality.
halsin actually becomes a companion way too late for me to give a shit even if he wasn't boring as frick
jaheira is the only one who gets away with sneaking in as a companion late in the game
>Last minute decision
Bullshit. You've been able to strip her corpse butt naked for a year and a half. Only companion corpses can be stripped naked. They've intended her to be playable for a while.
she, halsin, minsc and jaheira were all last minute adds, you can see that they have some iffy dialogues
Wyll too since they reworked him last minute, specially at act 3
as for the cut content, every game ever have cut content that the devs couldn't finish or thought weren't good enough to be added, elden ring got a ton of cut quests too, fully voiced and finished, but cut all the same.
They probably had some deadline set by Hasbro or something and had to cut corners for release or else.
expect a lot to return with the enhanced edition/patches
also, patches are expensive to release, thats why hotfixes for serious crashes happen fast, but less game breaking bugs last for months until a big patch, this is for all games, once they hit console they gotta pay like 10k+ just for a single update, the game likely already went gold with s o y ny and they are just rolling fixes upon fixes for a day 1 patch, instead of publishing many in steam and having to compile them together at last minute
>Finish Act 1
>have fun
>Finish Act 2
>have fun
>Get to act 3
>never start, make new character just to play through act 1 and 2 again while using new classes
>install mods for more spells/cantrips and a higher level cap
>play through act 1 and 2 again and manage to still find new things to do
I haven't even recruited this b***h yet, how do I get out of this groundhog day loop and progress to act 3
What? you don't anon. What you're doing is fine as you want to wait for the two big patches to release and fix all the quests not triggering or starting in act 1 2 and 3. Keep remaking characters, keep using mods until they patch the game up.
Stop being an autist and do it.
I will rate game 10/10 b4 act3 and 4/10 at best in act3, its simply painful to watch ball being dropped so hard, narrative switching from urgency and killing gods back to village troubles and wasting time. Plot and pacing pf act3 is an absolute mess. Not to mention emps becomes ultra-moronic double mary sure because him being driving force behind all events is clearly not enough, he must be a b as well. And to that end absolutely not give a shit over town or anything. What a disaster.
To this end quitting in act3 is a patrician way to play game. Act3 is unfinished shit, current game ends at act2. Waiting for definitive edition to fix arx. Wait, arx? No I meant act3. Silly me.
House of hope should be realigned somewhat so that it's made into the focus. Gortash also needs a Bane transformation.
Raphael should have been the main villain, the elder brain is such a boring final boss
dont
just pretend act 3 isnt released yet; its not worth playing in its current state
What's wrong with it? I just started it myself
Literally the same issues as Arx
What issues. For me arx was just paced badly, every time i came to that giant map after already playing the game for 80h i got overwhelmed and dropped the game
hey man, dont feel bad
im literally the same
always 500+h in games like pathfinder and underrail and never finishing them
I have 600h in dos2 and only finished it once in a coop where friend was dragging me to the finish line, didnt even read any of the latter dialogs or quests while i can recall the whole of thirst or second island by memory
First*
No way Act 3 is that bad. I only hear you Gankeraggots shit on it.
how do I make magic missile busted bros
doing coop with a bro soon and I'm taking wizard and sorc and he's doing rogue and fighter
Magic missile isn't that busted it's the spell you use when you run out of spell slots to cast fireball
you stack it with on-hit damage effects and it becomes very strong later on but I forget the details some anon earlier was talking about
Nah it's pretty broken when upcasted and buffed with item effects
Owlcat pathfinder games are the ones you wanna play if you want to make magic missile OP since it has quite a few feats that directly benefit that
Magic Missile is what you use if you want guaranteed damage (no saving throw, no attack roll).
Unless they're a spellcaster that has the Shield spell, at least.
spellsparkler with lightning charges to add additional lightning damage to the missiles while stacking other additional 1d4 damage boosts, I think there's a tadpole power that adds 1d4 psionic damage to attacks but you take 1d4 every turn
play evocation wizard, upcast and enjoy 100% hit chance nuke
Don't forget the necklace that adds an extra magic missile to each cast.
Magic missile is best for if you want to deal spread-out damage. It's great against enemies like Auntie Ethel because it gets rid of the fake copies.
phalar aluve's debuff works on magic missiles
there's a necklace that adds 1 bolt
Been waiting for this game for years praying they werent going to sack content for a bunch of mocap and voice acting. And my prayers were ignored.
Should have preyed to Jesus, dummy.
My favorite thing is watching absolute mad lads ripping into the writers over their dissatisfaction over the game. Since reviewers are'nt doing it, gotta take it into your own hands.
you forgot to post him mentioning owlcat, making it clear that he was just trolling
There you go. He's not trolling by the way, he's clearly an owlcat gay who probably starts wars against lariangays. Who knows.
I've spent like 10 hours in act 1, and I haven't even gone to the goblin city yet. How long are the other acts?
My save files at the end of each act were at 19.5 hours, 40 hours and 53 hours, skipping most of the side content in act 3.
>19.5 hours in act 1
did you completely skip the underdark and mountainpass content?
And maybe the forge
I did (almost) everything in act 1, 2, and 3. 106 hours total. The writing was inconsistent and it has that 'revenge of the sith' 5-minute wrap up at the end of act 3. Enjoy the ride (mechanically and visually), because the writing is lackluster past act 2, save a few good characters/moments. I still enjoyed it, though.
wrong post #
This makes for a grand total of 2 people that don't like nu-Wyll. I don't understand why he seems to be, if not popular, then at least "not worth mentioning" to so many people. His writing is fricking terrible.
You mean compared to old Wyll? I agree that old wyll was even more annoying since he was voiced by a wienerney Black person, but new wyll is still an insufferable dimwit with a deformed nog face.
No, I don't. Original Wyll, with his daddy issues and conflicted feelings about his contract, at least had the potential for an arc. Nu-Wyll is just an "I do the morally good thing" character, like Halsin. It's bland and static as frick.
>Original Wyll, with his daddy issues
I think it's supposed to be "did a bad thing for good reasons, now being punished and having to work in those constraints" type things, but it's just not interesting.
Only time I pull him out is when it's areas for his story beats.
They should have made him more of a showoff chuni. He's way too mellow and chill like they were afraid he was going to be a mega dork but they should have just gone all in on that and make it the point.
>This makes for a grand total of 2 people that don't like nu-Wyll
Make that 3. The frick is there to like about him?
He's an ugly nobody and his patreon is shit
What is wrong with the Black folk who find out about some unfinished or changed aspect of a story/game/w/e and make it their whole personality that it was actually the greatest thing ever and if the game only shipped with it it would be a 13/10 society-changing masterpiece?
It's like contrarianism mixed with 'muh sekrit klub' autism into a most noxious brew.
Because they linked the reason they dislike something to the changed content so the only reason why they dislike something isn't because of them but rather how the original vision was changed.
>harsh criticism is identity
Holy frick, we need to genocide midwits like you
Overhyping mediocre features being replaced with the same amount of equally mediocre features and pretending the developers just pissed in your mouth is at least a mental illness, if not an identity.
>Overhyping mediocre features being replaced with the same amount of equally mediocre features
Yeah bro, who gives frick about ending slides in a CRPG, 1/3rd of the map getting cut and turning the remaining 2/3rd into a buggy mess because a frickload of quests are tied to that area? Who cares? The performances are taking a nosedive the second you reach the lower-city? Eh, nothing a few bear sex scenes won't solve. The 2 main bosses having way less content than Kethric? Zzzzzz, boring who plays RPGs for the story anyway amirite? You're a moron that feels attacked when people criticize a video game. Disgraceful.
to be fair, Balduran siding with the homiebrain is continuous with his character. if you reject/suspect him, he shows you that he had Duke Stelmane under mind control and tells you that could've been your relationship, but he chose to be nice. he also insists that the homiebrain is to be controlled and not destroyed. not sure why Larian lets you choose to destroy the brain if you side with Balduran, he just wants power/control. frick mindflayers
can you kill balduran and the brain in the end? Can you get rid of the parasite? Feels like the game is railroading me hard to not being able to do what i set out to
No you’re forced to become his slave boyfriend it’s the develops sick fetish
>blue checkmark
yeah I'm not reading any of that
>t. fiddlecub
blue checkmark makes leftists seethe once again
The Daisy stuff i think im happy that it got dropped, the whole down by the river thing just sounds tonewise too far off from the rest of the game for me.
Emps is still a mixed bag, but i enjoyed that suspicious frick well enough.
the whole point is the tadpole is projecting an image of itself into your mind to save itself from you, and the emperor is trying to save you from it.
Its a great conflict and truly a shame it was dropped.
he isn't wrong
>muh upper city
>two weeks!
Oh boy, people are going to regurgitate that shit forever even though Larian didn't actually say that. It was just some journo moron who made it up.
Which is a good thing, if enough people b***h about it, they'll probably add it back.
That's not how it works. They would have added it if they could. They didn't because they couldn't.
We're not getting any major content until the Definitive Edition regardless of how much people b***h about it.
They've already confirmed that Patch 2 will bring new features though.
"Features" is a very broad term. It ain't gonna be new areas or quests.
We'll probably get to customize hirelings and tweak your toon's appearance ala DOS2.
>Larian didn't actually say that. It was just some journo moron who made it up.
It's literally a steam community update?
>giving you a chance to explore the menacing roads of the Outer City, the opulent estates of the Upper City, and the dark alleys and pubs of the Lower City.
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1086940/announcements/detail/3649651368763455643
TAV and Dark Urge not being the same is the biggest fricking crime of this list, Dark Urge is the closest thing to a canon character one can play, and the narrative is clearly and explicitly meant for a dark urge character.
>laezel being split between vlaakith and emperor due to evil manipulation
>shadowheart being split between shar and selune due to evil manipulation
>Wyll being split between following mizora or not due to an evil b***h manipulating
>minthara being split by absolute mindbrokery or general drow frickery due to an evil brain manipulating the plot
>Gale being split between his love for god magussy and moving on
>Karlach dealing with freedom vs enslavement due to evil hells frickery
>the dead three have weight with the PC instead of being villains of the week for a rando to fix (like BG 1/2)
>withers being an actual character instead of a camp mechanic
>the NPCs that are useless and window dressing unless Durge (funny clown tiefling AKA fleshpaste)
>Durge having to navigate bhaalfrickery mimicking the struggle with balduran-Tulpa frickery
>the endings without Durge are just reduced Durge cutscenes, literally just stopping where Durge endings and cutscenes continue
>the choice to go full tentacle is more weighty due to wanting to possibly escape bhaal soul frickery by bypassing your soul entirely
>best endings are locked behind Durge (full mind-control ‘blood for blood god’ orgy or telling the dead three + emperor + netherbrain to FRICK OFF and finally being free from manipulation)
>generally more dialogue choices in all contexts
>more camp interactions
>character creation is exact same as TAV
Yes, they only needed to remove from the game the force Alfira or random bard NPC murder in the camp and the force kick the squirrel against the tree and Tav wasn't needed. Because in the end, both good Dark Urge and bad Dark Urge are interesting.
It's pretty clear the game needed another month or two of polish, but Starfield forced them to release early so they wouldn't be in direct competition with it for sales. What we're playing currently is more like a version 0.95 beta missing a few maps and a handful of important endings to pieces of content right at the end.
I don't know anon. They removed Gortash and placed him in the lower end baldurs gate, have us climbing through some entrance in the lower part to reach casadors mansion, and have orin stuck in the sewers in lower city. So once they put upper city back in, they're going to re-do all that?
>removed Gortash [from the Upper City]
Do you have evidence for this? I know it seems obvious that new not-king = found in rich sector, but I don't recall any pre-launch content or in-game content suggesting he's supposed to be in the Upper City.
>Orin stuck in the sewers in lower city
With the conflict the two have in act 3, that actually makes a lot of sense if Gortash was supposed to roost in Upper.
>act 2
>try to just go to baldurs gate through army
>no cutscenes, end up in oublette under dungeon
>free plate armor and parasite upgrade so you SHOULD do this
>lose no equipment
>lose no health
>lose no spellslots
>head up into the dungeon
>everyone is still dead because I already killed them freeing the tiefBlack folk and gnomes of peace
>head outside
>already killed their drider
>already killed the doctor
>already killed nere
>already stopped their attack on last light
>already killed a dozen scrying eyes of the cult
>true soul cultists STILL not aggro
>true souls still think you're their little best buddy going to get the thing... that can render their boss mortal
>your choices matter guys!
worse
>have to play this all again for a bugged Drow on an "evil" playthrough
Doing the nightsong quest is the trigger to make the tower aggro, learnt last night when I went to trade all the shit I robbed from the Sharran temple
>act 2 finale
>emperor reveals himself
>tell him i dont trust him and fight him
>knock him down to 0 health after a tough fight
>cutscene plays saying you suddenly understand he was telling the truth
>forces you to join his side
seriously? frick off. worst of all if you wait until the end of the fight and try to kill the emperor again you just get game over. really wish there was some sort of alternate route here
Siding with Orpheus was going to be an option but was dropped.
> you suddenly understand he was telling the truth
no he wasn't, the memories he has
shown you are fabricated, he's manipulating you from within and trying to get you to trust him completely, he only thinks of you as his puppet and will drop the facade only after you force him to show you his REAL memories. you have two options: become a mind flayer and suck his brain out after defeating the final boss OR free the githianki prince and then fight the emperor, I enjoyed fricking him and then sucking his brain out at the last second personally
Obligatory reminder: there are no proven health harms from argyria. You CAN have drow gf irl.
what is drussy?
why is she holding on to that tentacle? what's going on here?
>Thrall. Connect the transponder.
that's code for sex, right?
Tentacle?
DROW PUSY
Who's the artist? Reverse image search didn't find anything..
Frick those Larian shitters, we need to roleplay.
>black lipstick
HNNNGGGGGG
She knows where that tentacle goes.
Seen too much drow x mindlfayer porn...
gay and stupid
Sucks you can't get her if you wreck the gobbs. She seemed fun
She has 10 INT if you kill her, does she get dumber if you recruit her?
seems that way
lmao what is that party anon
Drussy harem
holy chad
Based Drusser
I miss that armor
Playing without DLAA even on max settings hair looks like shit. I was surprised when I turned DLAA off and switched to the other AA options, looks miles better with DLAA on.
Wait, how the frick did you get these hirelings? Aren't all hirelings ugly premade shits that you can't customize?
>hirelings
They're customs made via the LAN workaround
The fact that they don't actually have a custom hirelings feature by default already is EXTREMELY puzzling, especially since Withers just defines all the hirelings as random fricks with tadpoles who worship the absolute, that just sounds like asspull speak for "oh yeah create a character let's pretend they existed before 5 seconds ago". SURELY it is something they are going to add in the features patch they're working on.
I could have sworn they said they were gonna be fully customizable too before the game came out
Larian hates the idea of you playing without their OCs, that's why the hirelings are essentially just more of their OCs. The entire point of hirelings is to have custom characters, and yet you can't customize anything about them. They're probably dev, or worse backers, OCdonuts.
This will be a mod 100% or just added later because people want it, official mod kit releases when PS5 version launches.
This anon is correct. Div OS2 was the same way and had the same LAN workaround to make a party of 4. Larian is absolutely one of those studios that thinks they know better than players, and not letting you make a full custom party is one of those things.
It still blows my mind that reaction weren't supposed to be featured in BG3 and it took 2 years of b***hing for Larian to cave in.
Only their writers
Gameplay wise they let you do anything you want
I dont remember, can you have some sort of a relationship between custom characters in dos? There are traces of i4 in dos1 although it doesnt progress very far
They want you to play their gay hirelings.
Thats smart
Still cant change them if you change your mind throughout the game
Maybe anon stuck her in the zaithisk? Or maybe it's just Lae'zel that can get that penalty.
What do you need to do to get her? Is she evil route exclusive?
Talk to her and raid the druid grove. You can also ignore the raid/protect quest, but that's pretty buggy.
Side with goblins in the goblin-druid conflict in act 1, then rescue her in act 2. She's intended to be evil exclusive, but it's technically possible to have Halsin and Minthara both get recruited. I assume this will be addressed in a post-launch patch.
>Is she evil route exclusive?
Practically, yeah. It's a shame. I didn't bother going into act 3 with an evil character. It felt like it wasn't fleshed out. Usually a mix between reminding me that I killed the druids, and giving me the same dialog I'd get if I were a good character using deception. After she joined the party was the point I gave up. They try to give her some sort of development, but it's so slight and has so little follow-up it feels marginally better than a hireling.
>It felt like it wasn't fleshed out.
Act 3 isn't fleshed out in general. trying to play a good character here and I'm forced to be butt buddies with the mass murdering brain-eating cannibal and watch his "sympathic" sob story. And an evilgay would be getting the same scenes, too. Everything from Nightsong on is just a big railroad honestly, damn shame since Act 1 and 2 were so cool.
not to mention after 80 hours of play I come to realize that Dark Urge is literally just the actual story and if you played a custom you cucked yourself out of the main character's background. I was saving it for an evil playthrough and now I realize there is no "evil playthrough" in the game at all
>Is she evil route exclusive?
Nah, she's good route exclusive
siding with the goblins is self defense after one of the druids (nettie) tried to stab you with a lethal poison
Act 1 and Act 2 Minthara are probably entirely different entities according to the game's scripting. She's just called Minthara and not Nightwarden Minthara if she survives to Act 2. And yes after you recruit her her stats are different to what they are if you inspect her in Act 1.
she's partially mind-broken when you recruit her at Moonrise. you have to save her from two underdark gnomes who are erasing her brain.
Do you gotta side with the absolute if you want her to be happy
In act 1, ye. She'll want to overthrow them once you recruit her
Anon she's still a Drow.
She wants to overthrow The Absolute and take over the cult. With you, preferably.
>She wants to overthrow The Absolute and take over the cult. With you, preferably.
why isn't this an ending
Because that's toxic.
I can't help but see her and think of how much hotter she'd have been if this game came out a decade ago. Back then she'd have been a 10/10 sex goddess but since it's modern day we have to settle for a 6/10 hag.
Elf sex
Who's the artist?
SOURCE?!
baldurs gate 3, video game
Cute.
Drow aren't lavendar.
Anyone know what mod this hair is from?
Image number 2 if it helps
Crazy how fast the modding community churned out these soulles Skyrim ass looking doll women.
All character modding boils down to this at the end of the day
Barbara Palvin lookin soulless b***h
What do you have against my Hungarian wife?
Just look through the mods for hair
I found these mods in my search
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/1120
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/483
but ill keep trying
What the frick is that
e Bugs
>Nyyyyeh, what's up wiener
99% of images probably use Tav's Hair Salon, and the same modder has the face preset mods too. The only other big hair mod is the one that de-couples the unique hair like Orins from Orin so anyone can use it
ok, i need to know if it's possible to save the tieflings AND minthara. i'm playing moralgay but i also want to impregnate a cute drow zealot. should i just wait for the first big patch and hope larian lets you do both? can i edit game flags with a toybox-style mod like in Pathfinder games yet?
No
You get 3 choices, ignore the grove and let Minthara kill them without getting involved. This allows you to keep all other companions without them throwing a fit and leaving.
Join the grove attack, Minthara will celebrate the victory with you and frick you in camp, you lose out on wyll, halsin and the tomboy tiefling joining you.
Save the grove, get halsin and it forces you to kill minthara
Question is, can you romance Minthara if you get her later and ignore the act 1 main mission.
Who knows, I guess we have to wait when this buggy mess is fixed.
I'm not touching it untill they add hireling customization.
if you fricked her in act 1, after you rescue her she says something along the lines of maybe forming a new relationship so it's possible it's there, just bugged
Game is really mod unfriendly judging by the fact we still don't have editable origin party member appearances on the fly yet
Pregnancy is not happening this patch, if we're lucky it'll be in patch 2.
Pathfinder runs on unity while BG3 runs on a homegrown engine (Divinity 4.0) so you need to wait for them to release modding tools like in DOS2
Anyone else just have a naked harem of b***hes following them around getting into fights with their pussys getting a nice breeze blowing through em?
Aww, they ruined it in the full version. Was hoping they'd just balance it instead of making it unusable
the game loses it's appeal once you reach max level
What happens with evil/absolute side of things if you prevent the kidnapping in the last light inn?
Last light harpers become zombies other than the head lady. Genuinely not a clue what happened to the girl who was taken. I've just paused after the might with the unkillable zombie guy and she hasn't reappeared since she was taken by the winged feller, who I murdered on my through the tower.
I said prevent, anon. My last run I yolo'd with first Marcus and helped Jaheira clear the zombies. I did it earlier but alt f4'd to go eat dinner without saving like a dumb dumb.
Oh my bad.
no biggie
I have not talked to a single party member with my human this run to test it out.
>I have not talked to a single party member with my human this run to test it out.
Is it working or nah
idk yet, I just got Minthara yesterday and didn't play much
I saved her from being kidnapped so I can't exactly comment given that it was my only playthrough and I don't know the differences, but as far as I could tell, nothing
you can still infiltrate the tower pretending to be a true soul, walk around mostly freely, etc, until you get given a quest to go help balthazar get to nightsong
>can only recruit Minthara of you're ubber mega evil
>she has a redemption arc in act 2 anyway
Her good rout in act 1 is cut content, isn't it?
Don't think there should be a way to convert her act 1. It would make the whole grove questline void if the most competent commander can just be convinced to become good after talking to what she thinks is another chosen disciple of a god that talks and gives her powers and has commanded her to eradicate the grove.
>guess it wouldn't be the dumbest roll to convince check in the game though
She's being controlled anyway, we find that out in Moonrise Towers.
you can literally convince Ketheric to kill himself
Yeah but you're like level 7-10 in act 2, you've grown in power. Fresh faced just off the nautiloid without much of an idea of what's going on, I dunno doesn't fit for me. I still love my evil wife that I fixed by tricking both the dream persona in my head and the absolute to sneak into moonrise, free her from the dungeon mindbreak midgets and have her turn into a vengeance seeking radiant paladin
Her content is bugged according to a Larian dev
>not one single dev tested minthara's romance before they shipped the game
Incredible
2/3 of the game are clearly untested beyond a passing glance.
They were too busy removing content to re-add in future updates. Please understand.
This always surprises me. Like, pay me for a week and I'll play your game for 80+ hours and comment on anything that seems weird. I would love that job.
why would they pay you when discord trannies will do it for free
Waterfall model is so 90's dude, nowadays they're literally making it up right until (and past) release date (because we can just patch it later). Tests lose a lot of their value because stuff keeps changing all the time. There is no freeze.
Everything past act 1 is untested.
Larian are fricking israelite Black folk. They had paypigs play the early access, saying it's privilege, while those morons reported every bug they found, for free.
Then the game comes out, not a single reviewer plays past act 1, 10/10 scores start rolling.
Nobody bothered going the evil route. If they did they'd have noticed how devoid of content it is.
>Can only romance her if you don't romance anyone else
Kinda cute even if unintentional
It's not really a redemption arc, she is still a power hungry, Machiavellian boss wife who suits my DUrge perfectly. She just gets freed from the Absolute's mindcontrol.
Yeah, it's not like she goes from being evil to good. At most it's a change from Chaotic Evil absolute-worshipping genocidal maniac to some Lawful Evil scheming power hungry boss b***h. Her redemption arc is at most being at least a little regretful at the mindless slaughter of the tieflings/druids while she was brainwashed, but not really giving too much of a frick that it occupies her head rent free.
To be honest, it makes a lot more sense with The Dark Urge. She eventually chats with you and comes to the realization that, while she slaughtered those people under the influence of The Absolute, you were doing it of your own free will. She doesn't like this, so I guess it's safe to say her being your companion is more because both you and her have a change of heart after Act 1 concludes.
>while she slaughtered those people under the influence of The Absolute, you were doing it of your own free will. She doesn't like this
I just said I did it to impress her and she Approved.
Good little simp. You get less approval from her for that option than the one where you tell her it was to infiltrate the absolute and find out more about tadpoles.
Don't care. I had 100 approval with her by the time I finished the game.
Why doesn’t the emperor reverse all true soul mindcontrol around you
oh shit storm sorc flight doesn't provoke AoO, that's nice as hell
AYO HOL UP
Does this mean she's already a mother? Is this mentioned literally anywhere outside of her speak with dead dialogue?
It's just part of the cut content that was datamined. Since her story was supposed to include her being pregnant regardless if the kid is yours or not my guess is that's the daughter it's referring to.
Do Drow know what gender the baby is even though they literally only just conceived it? I figured she has a daughter already from that dialogue. The only place in the game I can think of where she could die outside of your party and not by your hand would be in Moonrise when she's being tortured. Or can you speak with dead on dead party members?
You can use speak with dead on people you have killed by using the disguise self spell before doing so
Huh, the more you know. Has anyone tried it on Minthara in act 1?
Just tried it, it works.
This is the dialogue tree in use for that.
>GOB_DrowCommander_Dead.html
Huh okay, so there is nothing about her having a daughter there. What about if you banged her at the end of act 1 and then speak with dead on her at Moonrise? Does that yield any results?
I don't have a save there, but I assume that's what this is
>Act2/Epilogue/SCE_Minthara_Dead.html
>Destined to be--- matron mother... House Baenre..
That's just not some throw away mook drow background. Is that still the most powerful house in 5e?
Weird. When I did it it said she wouldn't speak to her killers.
Did you disguise yourself?
I did it on her yeah.
why does she have the most animated sex scene but the least fleshed out romance
I love my wife Shadowheart.
So one thing I've learned so far in the game (after fumbling around in Act 2) is to create choke points with your party because you will always be fricking outnumbered by enemies that have more hp than you so fighting them one by one is a death sentence.
I had to get rid of Karlach for this drow b***h but thankfully that orc pally you get from Withers is just as good.
This fight especially was fricking brutal what the frick. Reminds me of the oil rig battle in DivOS2.
Mind you I'm just basing stuff off from DivOs2 where the game initially had you fight equal numbers of enemies and often times battles were initiated where you had the advantage or had plenty of cover and vantage points. In BG3 so far nearly all the fights has you surrounded unless you scout ahead every single area like crazy expecting an encounter with every step.
Why does no one talk about Wyll? Is he THAT unpopular? What gives?
Wyll is the Jacob is this game, not even having a succubus as your patron can make him interesting. They did an 1080 on hios character compared to EA right? How was he like before?
He used to be even more self-absorbed and obsessed with fame. He was less stereotypical but just as boring as Nu-Wyll.
Almost like getting the same AIDS ridden homosexual who fricked up writing him the first time around to write him again is not going to get you any better results
True, what kind of moron would task a game journalist to write a video game character AND rehire him to REWRITE that character once it turns out that no one gives a frick about Warlock Low Tier God.
He hated goblins and lost his eye to a named goblin who was in the act 1 goblin area, felt more like a Blade than the current version because of his self-absorbed moronation.
No dad.
Was still a slave to devils and didn't mind it.
total fraud and scam artist
I wished we could replace him with Zevlor ..... would be nice to give the old paladin a redemption arc. Instead were stuck with a magical Black person.
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His story is just moronic. he's so full of himself that he got duped into becoming a devil's b***h because of his own pride, and the only resolution to the story is to tell him "yeah Wyll you were right, your dad should've loved you more, go Wyll!"
meanwhile the great and mighty devil that he's forced to serve
>barely gives him any powers
>makes tons of threats she never delivers on
>is a complete jobber who actually needs you to RESCUE her later on
And what secondary aspects does his character have? He likes to dance, which you don't get to see unless you agree to have gay sex with him I guess. Uhh, what else... he gives generic advice during party banter? yeah he's just boring. The only interesting things he has to say are totally hypocritical.
>i'm warning you %PLAYER%.... nevah EVAH make a deal... wit a devil........ trust me... i know............
>but i dont regret it at all, i did the right thing, it was a good decision, nope never regret it once
>now help me get out of this contract QUICKLY HELP ME
you forgot
>WE WUZ BLADE OF FRONTIERS N SHIET
He also hits on every female companion and gets turned down immediately.
The original Wyll they wrote, who was conflicted because Mizora made him kill children, was far more interesting and had way more potential.
oh yeah and also, warlocks are just a lame as frick class. they spam their blast, that's it. Who wants that in their party, really?
yeah kek, that too.
>NO NO SEE ALL THIS COOL STUFF HAPPENED AND IT WAS TOTALLY AWESOME AND I'M A HUGE HERO
>nobody ever recognizes him or talks about him at all
>none of this cool shit happens on screen
finished game last night. they somehow made same exact thing like DOS2. last act(s) are way worse than early/mid game
SLAP TWICE SLAP TWICE
Which is fricking moronic because their CEO was jacking off the upper city literal weeks before the game was out. I have no idea who's in charge of their PR but they should be given the boot ASAP
Honestly, looking back, I actually enjoyed Fort Joy and much of Reaper's Coast.
Act 1 in BG 3 is a bit of a slog. Act 2 has really nice looking vistas but encounters are even much more cancerous.
*SLAP SLAP SLAP SLAP SLAP SLAP*
What exactly prevents you from holding her hands behind her back and slap her thrice?
Depends, do you want to wake up paralyzed and covered in spiders?
After force fricking a hot drow I dont even care, might as well die
>force frick a drow
>she sends you to meet your god
>he congratulates you
Oh no
Cherry Gig is the artist, if anyone wonders.
Just let us customize race of the hirelings. I would roll an all drow squad and ignore other shitters.
*drow female squad and 1 human male (me)
Nah, for me it would be all drow, male and female.
Umm no chud, that would allow you to bypass our vibrant and diverse cast. One of the hirelings is none binary, we don't want you not experiencing that vibrant diversity now would we?
>start BG3
>no character attributes rolling you can spontan hours in
>lowest attributes are 8
This ruines the 2nd playthrough because characters are nearly the same on act 1
If you want to have fun in this boring game I recommend going for NON charisma playthrough and hardcore respec of all companions. I'm playing as a mystical trickster rogue wizard multiclass who fails at dialogue checks but very good at background checks (high int). He has to sneak around and use magic to solve issues unconventionally. He can't persuade people to his cause, but he can persuade them he's competent at other things, like being smart.
I also used shadowheart as a druid the moment I unlocked respec.
Just mod your stats to be max you autist, this adds nothing to the game
it's 5e, all characters are the same
everyone can do everything everyone else does, every spellcaster can use all scrolls, anyone can make potions, everyone beats enemies by knocking them off ledges and shooting meme arrows with their crossbow
the only meaningful class progression is gaining 2 levels in fighter for an extra action
honestly, nibble on Minty's ears while you mating press her and cum straight into her womb
Is she fixed yet or do I need to wait to play the game?
>Just play a good playtrough now and then lat-
No, I want my first playtrough to be the evil one.
Just kill every act 1 companion and she works supposedly
Still broken, wait for patches. She's still got some of my favorite dialogue as a companion but romance etc is broken. Don't listen to the anons who say you miss too much content. Wyll is boring. Halsin is boring and thinks I want to frick him, Karlach is ok I guess. The tieflings are all theiving shits except for Zevlor and I hate them more than goblins
This might be the completionist mindset in me speaking but wouldn't killing companions mean losing out on a lot of exp? Or am I overthinking it and the exp gain is nominal?
>losing out on a lot of exp
you'll max out hours before the grand finale, don't worry about xp
Convince me to do a full evil playthrough (dark urge, siding with goblins, killing nightsong, etc) instead of a good one for the third time
>really hyped when I saw this scene in the previews
>was actually unnerving as frick when you get to it in game
>...and it just ends
Did I fricking miss a questline or something?
>Can't fix her with big lawful good wiener
>Only shows up on evil route
>Barely fleshed out at all
Fricking garbage game.
The game just got a 2.2gb patch.
What's going on?
Mintharabros...WE FRICKING WON
Can I recruit her without butchering the grove? I just don't want to ally with filthy fricking goblins.
Yeah, ignore the entire grove questline. Grove gets slaughtered but you have no part in it.
I see
Well, as long as the important tieflings make it out for relevant quests later, that's fine. I don't care about the rest.
>as long as the important tieflings make it out
They don't. Which is moronic as Minthara is both imprisoned for a failed raid and thieflings died in the same raid.
That's ridiculous. Frick it, I don't like Karlach anyway.
The most you could get (pre today's patch) is Minthara, Halsin, Karlach and Wyll but no tieflings.
Yes, but you'll have to neither attack the grove nor defend it. Just leave the questline unfinished.
New patch dropped.
>You can no longer recruit both Halsin and Minthara to camp in the same playthrough.
Those mother frickers.
Good, people that want H*lsin in their party do not deserve to have Minthara in their camp
But his quest gives a lot of exp
i'd probably be level 14 with the amount of xp i've gotten
xp in this game is a joke
>guy who can't stop talking about kids and refugees
https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-1-now-live_87
Website's fricked for me tho.
>Made Minthara's camp top ever-so-slightly less revealing
oh no
apparently they just added these pink laces
Oh, that's kinda better.
>Fixed the dialogue flow when dating Minthara.
That's pretty quick actually.
If if turns out her romance is fixed I'll have to consider playing this sooner than expected. She's basically the only thing that makes the game worth it from the outside.
we are back bros
You still can't date Minthara unless it requires a brand new playthrough. Checked several save points through act 2 and act 3 and nothing new triggered. The only new thing that triggered was Gale being mad I had accepted the contract with Raphael, despite the fact I never did and had killed him 20 hours prior. Great patch.
Bros, /ourgirl/ just got fixed in a new gigapatch
thanks my noob friend
whichever edition neverwinter nights ran is peak dnd
>Shadowheart should more easily follow up on her proposed romance moments in Act III.
What does this mean? I already got the beach sex and talk after but what else is there?
Halsin will cuck you harder.
Halsin will now turn into a bear before fricking her.
"Made it less ambiguous that you're starting a romance with Gale when choosing certain dialogue options.
During Gale's spell-teaching scene, you now have the option to picture a future with Gale that falls somewhere in between kissing him and kicking him in the head."
Is this them saying you can actually be friends with gale without these scens having butthole or frick me only options lmao
They added no gay sex please prompt
They ruined lay on hands and second wind it is utterly shit on multiclass now and it wasnt like it was that strong before WHY
can someone explain to me the daisy/down by the river thing? i didnt play ea
In EA, you didn't choose to make a guardian during character creation. The game simply asked you "who do you see in your dreams" and let you design your dream waifu, which people called "Daisy". She took the place of the guardian and rather than beckon you to use the illithid powers, she bid you to abandon your quest and stay with her forever in your dreams, by a river. It's why the song "down by the river" makes no sense in the full release, since all it's significance was about choosing to stay with Daisy. It's revealed at some point that Daisy is actually the worm in your head, who is sentient and is in love with you (or is using you or trying to take over your body, we'll never know because it was all cut).
Playing it when it first came out and playing it now is an interesting experience. The intro when you're trying to escape that ship, I remember there were a few people at the front trying to manage cannons or something? Then upon release, those people are just gone. Or rather, that area to access that place is blocked off.
Yeah, the thralls are gone. It was a pretty useless part of the tutorial other than for grinding a few more XP imo
You could cast heal on them for some funny interactions.
Really? Since I'll never be able to go back to that fork, any examples?
It filtered people.
>Fixed the Sharpshooter feat not applying its penalty to off-hand ranged attacks.
Rogalbros... Glompfstalkerbros...
>You can no longer recruit both Halsin and Minthara to camp in the same playthrough.
Piratechads, feel free to skip this patch.
She has 10 int, moran. Don't slander drowussy.
Only in act 1. In act 2 she has 8
>evil cult lobotomises your wife
More like
>Fricked her so hard she lost 2 INT points
>last minute add is the most based and reasonable companion with the least content
Not many such cases.
God I love her
>super supportive of astarion
>supportive of SH becoming a dark justiciar
>disproves of laezel turning her back on vlaakith
>more interaction with other companions than halsin and karlach
its so weird
Minthara's writer really, really loves the character.
I bet he's fricking heartbroken that she's not only behind so many barriers of entry for most players to ever recruit and experience her content, but that she launched bugged and the people that did go through those hoops couldn't experience her right anyway.
There's actually follower dialogue in there. Not much. Maybe four lines of Minthara talking directly to a follower Halsin.
Meaning at some point in development, it had to have been possible to have your cake and eat it too. But they b***hed out for whatever reason.
the fact a third option is missing for the grove/tiefling/camp resolution is honestly really weird.
qrd on all the changes in the update?
I read somewhere that you can recruit her on a good playthrough if you knock her out in Act 1 because she still shows up in Act 2. Was that bullshit? I really can't be bothered replaying the game until I'm sure it's got all the content in it so basically in 2 years when the DE is out.
Nope. You can only get her later if you ignore the goblin questline in that chapter
You COULD recruit her but with the caveat that the game treats thieflings as having died. So you can still get Halsin, Karlach and Wyll if you recruit her but you lose some quests and traders.
Now with the first patch you can't get her and Halsin both
Is Minny good enough to have gotten rid of Karlach, Harlin, and Wyll?
Is her content worth killing whole bunch of other people, quests, and shops?
I don't think so, and I love drowie dommimemmomies who abhore h*rpers
Shouldn't she be called Minthy?
Mingy
Minny is cuter!
Yes, Little Minthy is what Karlach calls her child.
>you may have wanted to kill an entire grove full of my brothas and sistas but I'm cool with being your kid's godmother
>'til the rest of my life
wait what, don't you have to frick over the grove/refugees to recruit minthala and doesn't that piss off karlach so much that she leaves, what did I miss
Karlach, Wyll and Hallsin all leave
it only makes the game better that way
That's the current case, but that's datamined dialogue (not in-game, but still in the data) from when (at some point in development) it was possible to have Karlach, Wyll, and Minthara in a party and when Minthara had a pregnancy storyline.
It's still possible, you don't kill/knock her out in the goblin fort and you rescue her in a2. You can't resolve the refugee situation in a1 in any way. This lets you keep Karlach, Wyll and Minthara. Pre-patch you could keep Halsin too.
Wouldn't this just kill Karlach anyway?
I assume all the tieflings die, you just don't get flack for it because you didn't help.
But if they all die, so does Dammon. And without him, Karlach is a time bomb and her quest is deader in the water than it already was.
>Wouldn't this just kill Karlach anyway?
No, she's with you if you recruit her.
>I assume all the tieflings die
Yup
It's a schroedinger's raid.
Minthara gets punished for failing the raid on the grove.
Rapefugees die in the raid.
Larian.
Knock out is a bugged bullshit that only works on Minsk. Everyone else stays on the ground until you long rest and when you do the game register them as dead.
It treats them dead before you even long rest.
Why did they even implement this as a mechanic when it doesn't work.
>deflect missiles suddenly becomes bugged in my monk playthrough
guess I have to pray long rest fixes it because I have no idea when it started
Human males having unprotected sex with drow women
>unprotected
From the sun, right?
belongs to human and half-elven men
>gale has been patched to no longer be a sex pest
what will i shitpost about now?
Shadowfart being a bawd and being voiced by a troony
that's not even half as humorous as stranger danger gale
Damm I ended liking him as a sex predator
How do you guys like the idea of arcane trickster/warlock crossclass?
I really like the idea of having myself have low hit chances with the sneak advantage but I feel like tha’ts all arcane trickster has. So instead I’d cross into warlock or wizard for big spells.
I’ve never crossclassed before
Seems like a pretty good adventure
cute
Where did you get the nose mod TELL ME NOW
Makes it look like the 4th member in your party is some monstrous fungoid.
Myconids are based as frick btw
Funny thing is, Minthara when asked about companions has something to say about Wyll and Karlach, even though they leave your party if you murderized the grove as she wants you to.
Wait huh? "companion" isn't this the evil npc b***h from the grove, you can bring her through to act 3??? Just how many hidden companions does this game have
My friend Minthara is the funniest person I know
KEKKAROO
And she was a good friend
She’s so proud if herself
They started patch 2 5 hours ago, I predict they'll release it next week. Maybe they'll add in the pregnancy story line.
Makes sense, the PS5 port will be released next week.
I hooe definitve edition adds back the upper city
The patch notes a few times references fixes to the Upper City...? I've heard it was yanked (haven't reached Act 3 yet), but why would they fix shit in the patch notes for UC if it's not there?
patch 1 is already available
yes?
It's a shame about her degenerate neck tattoo. Otherwise, would keep her alive
At least it's not a generic tramp stamp
Fair enough, and with info like this
at least it's important/relevant
Tattoos are hot and I dont care what incels think about it.
That's not a degenerate tattoo. It's a house brand. Specifically house Baenre.
When you're part of Lolths most consistantly favored and power house in Menzobarranzan, you want others to know at a glance.
why do people say there's good and evil route in Act 1
There's the good route and the murderhobo no content route
but you commit mass murder in both routes
G*blins aren’t people
neither are tieflings or shadowdruids
I can actually have sex with tieflings and Alfina is cute
I can have sex with the drow and Viconia is fricking ugly
How do I expose the shadowdruids by the way
I always do evil playthrough and just shank everybody but I think there's a journal somewhere in their house
There's a hidden chest within the inner grove. Lockpick & steal Kagha's mcguffin that'll tell you to go to the swamps. After that you should be able to confront the shadow homies
hard to argue with facts
They think refugees are inherently good
>You can no longer recruit both Halsin and Minthara to camp in the same playthrough.
Now it makes sense.
Dangerously based. Frick Wizards.
>dabs on gn*mes and w*zards in the span of a single line
>get to learn Shadowheart’s real name
>it’s super cute and flowery
Cute! CUTE!
>Jenevelle
It's such a pretty name...
I wanted her to go back to using it but she doesn't want to so I have to respect her wishes
Game needs:
1. Allow me to customize race of hirelings so I can make all drow squad.
2. Fix Minthara cut/bugged stuff.
Then I could maybe look past other shit and play all drow murderhobo squad and roleplay it that way.
>Game needs:
Full rewrite.
Which would be almost impossible under normal circumstances.
With full voice acting circumstances? Absolutely impossible.
>With full voice acting circumstances
Just use AI voices based on existing samples
Why do you think the game needs a re-write?
Because the writing is horrible.
but enough about Baldur's Gate 2
Yeah, all bioware writing is horrible.
Too bad so is all lariat writing.
Do I have to restart a new to romance Minthara?
dunno, but you should wait for patch 2 in case they add pregnancy
You shouldn't have to. The patch notes said nothing about old saves.
Can someone explain how to not fail/bug her romance? Just concentrate solely on Minthara?
It should be fixed with the new patch, but previously any romance scene with any other character would break her.
What's the best class for dark urge?
I'm planning to do 2nd playthrough after some more patches drop but have no idea how to roll.
First one was bard Tav, Shadow, Laezel and Gale.
Ve been thinking about Minthara, Astarion and someone else (maybe Gale again specced into sorceror).
Maybe warlock then?
Replace Gale with Shadow for the "evil but not really" trifecta, then be a wizard/sorcerer yourself
Yeah, maybe that's how I'll do it.
Thanks
>What's the best class for dark urge?
Rogue can put the Durge cloak into good use.
I sweet talked and fricked Kharlach because shadowheart refused to put out.
Immediately afterwards I went to shadowheart and she knew. I said I would drop Kharlach for her and it worked out. Kharlach chimped tf out after we left camp and her approval hit rock bottom kek.
What happens when you cheat on Minthara?
>What happens when you cheat on Minthara?
I don't know but an assassination attempt is not out of question considering who she is
>an assassination attempt
This is her response when she actually LIKES you
Shadowheart is super noisy and eavesdrops on you all the time unless you romance her. If you romance her she’s a big sweetheart and doesn’t do that.
Super nosey*
We already kissed in ACT 1 doe. Does every companion know when you fricked one? Both Karlach and Shadowheart knew everything wtihout me telling
I wanted a harem so bad.
>Does every companion know when you fricked one?
Anon everyone sleeps within 20 feet of everyone else and everyone either sleeps on a bedroll next to the campfire or in a tent with no sound proofing.
Of fricking course everyone knows when two members of the party frick. Especially when they go off together in the middle of the night to someplace secluded.
Hell the first time you frick Karlach she does it right in the middle of camp.
You can't cheat on Minthara. If you take off your clothes after starting to romance her you will notice a wiener cage on your character, it is unequippable unless you pass a very high (40) persuasion check.
>mental link with everyone around you
>multiple cutscenes saying you share memories
>"UGH why won't anyone mind their business"
morons
THE ABSOLOOOT!
>frick her
>save her
>the romance slider is neutral when you recruit her
so stupid.
They censored her...
too bad i strip all the women naked in camp
Bullshit. That's what MY drow is wearing.
Fricking homosexual leftoids
did they fix the romance with her yet ?
Supposedly yes, no pregnancy though maybe in patch 2
Does anyone know exactly how much of Minthara's stuff has been fixed? I'm debating trying another evil playthrough for her romance but by the patchnotes I'm not sure what has changed exactly.
>Undergoing partial ceremorphosis will now rot your teeth!
NOOO frick. I just want the powers without becoming a nasty freak, having fricked up teeth and crazy veins will ruin the romamce scenes
good, there should be more consequences for taking the illithid vax
it's supposed to be safe and effective!
This can't be happening to me, I had 12 booster tadpoles!
I wouldn't touch the game until they drop Definitive Edition or whatever upgrade.
First playthrough now with good paladin turning shadowheart into tradwife, later evil playthroughs with Minthara PLAP PLAP Plot added back in definitive edition
Sorcs are bawds
Best wife incoming
Sry, wrong pic.