You can make an non-interactive scene as pretty as you want it to be
If the player could interact with those visuals ib any meaningful way theyd be much harder to pull off
that's just moronic. They could make every tiny item interactive like in Bethesda games, and still look the same, but there's literally no point in doing that. Game wouldn't be any better.
There was plenty of interactivity with the environment in RDR2, I don't know if that's what you mean by "interact with the visuals" though. Do you mind explaining how the visuals could be better interacted with in a way you'd consider meaningful to the overall experience of the game?
I think he means like Skyrim, and to some extent I get it. You could pick up anything in Skyrim. That being said, things like the trains still blow me away. And they made riding horses actually feel like riding horses, not just like cars.
This scene is the equivalent or rendering a super realistic scene and then taking a snapshot of it. It's completely static but it does look like it comes from a game running on console two generations into the future.
I just sat on the train while it goes around the entire map for the past 30 minutes or so. It's beautiful. I finally understand what boomers used to say back in the mid 2000s when they said that video games "just look like movies nowadays." It basically is a movie, I get that. I'm not saying the gameplay is amazing, persay, but it looks beautiful.
Having the best talent in the industry, a near unlimited budget, and years upon years of expertise in crafting AAA open worlds. Rockstar just plays in an entirely different ballpark from everyone else, always 10 or so years ahead.
It's the most believable I've ever seen, for sure.
I don't play many open world games though. I'm comparing it to something like Skyrim, which while fun isn't believable at all. The cities are unrealistically small and you have to really roleplay/imagine to get into it.
With Saint Denis I feel like that's probably what New Orleans was actually like 130 years ago, down to the size of the city.
That's what I mean when I say I'm not just talking about the graphical detail here.
I dont understand why people like rdr2 so much, maybe im playing it wrong?
I dont care to interact with npcs or any of that, riding horses was alright and unique but not enough to sell me on the game.
The hunting was fun but taking an entire carcass across the map to sell for 9 cents doesnt feel rewarding at all.
All the missions are the same, ride from point a to b, talk, then shoot 30 nameless guys then run.
What am i suppose to do to have fun in this game?
> I dont care to interact with npcs
It's not for you. It's a game best enjoyed by people who want to experience a bit of outlaw life in the 1800s - you don't.
> NOOOOOO A LIBERTARIAN IN THE 1800s DOESN'T LIKE SLAVERY I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE
Historylets have to stop commenting on this game, no, people in the late 1800s weren't spending 75% of their day stringing up Black folk and going to KKK meetings. This was 30 years after the civil war, there were no lack of abolitionist and egalitarian movements in the US.
Yup. Absolutely no one ever of different races ever got along in the 1800s.
The game explains to you a bunch of times that Dutch is a government-hating lolbertarian enamored with the ideas of a northerner writer and with being an outlaw. Why the frick would he have to be racist? Especially against Injuns, who have basically always been seen by many people as a group unfairly treated by the US government?
3 years ago
Anonymous
>The game explains to you a bunch of times that Dutch is like a modern SJW so it makes sense that you're playing as a group of outlaws who are like modern SJWs and feminists in the 1800s
This game is for homosexuals.
3 years ago
Anonymous
> dutch is like a modern sjw
Seriously how much of a historylet are you? Do you think everyone spent their day complaining about Black folk before the 1960s? The country fought an entire civil war over Black person slavery and you think everyone was 100% racist?
You are mentally ill.
3 years ago
Anonymous
I think groups of outlaws in the 1800s were a lot more likely to be racist, homophobic and sexist savages than be a bunch of modern sjws and feminists. Pretty pathetic that you're defending this, shows how much of a cuck homosexual you are. You probably defend depicting female soldiers in WW2 as well because they "technically existed".
3 years ago
Anonymous
Except they call the blacks "Darkies", most of the Chinese NPCs can't speak English, the blacks act like stereotypical drugged out factory-working blacks from the late 1800s, etc. The game doesn't feel like they pandered to SJWs. It feels like they wanted to celebrate the old USA.
>want to experience outlaw life in the 1800s >end up with a diverse group of SJWs and feminists
I thought this too but then I heard a character call blacks "darkies" and saw the blacks in the game all drugged out and the black women all having extremely southern accents and the Chinese people not being able to speak English.. I think they tried hard to make the game historically realistic, honestly. Minus maybe a few moments where they talk about race, I think they did a good job.
I guess i grew out of the "outlaw" lifestyle thing when i was a teen and played the shit out of gta 3. After that i didnt care to just go around and beat / kill npcs to run from the cops it all just felt tedious.
I want to like it and keep giving it a shot but always am sitting there waiting for the fun to start that never happens. Maybe i just cant get immersed into games now and only view them as a game, also as an anon said the gunplay is pretty bad
The game shoves fun at you at every opportunity, it's just not for you dude. People who want to experience being a cowboy in a game are going to love the hunting, the shooting, the riding, the drinking, the small towns, the wilderness, etc etc. RDR2's fun is organic but it doesn't come for everyone.
Also I tried murdering some chinese girl on the streets with my knife. It's brutally gory when he slits her throat and blood starts spraying everywhere. Way more bloody than I've ever seen in any GTA game.
Well, if Rockstar wanted RDR2 to be fun, they made a terrible job. The game lacks all the freedom and sandbox from the GTA games that made it fun to play and focused on a ''good'' story and cinematic experience. I still play GTA SA and V but even though I don't dislike Rdr I just don't find anything fun to do. The only fun part in roleplay as a serial killer in the wild west, but it gets old over time.
The key, as others have said, is to roleplay.
Imagine you're an American in the 1800s heading out West to provide for your family. RDR2 is just extremely immersive for people who want to experience that.
OP here. What I think everyone in this thread is missing is that it's not just the detail in the graphics that are beautiful, it's the artstyle. The landscapes look amazing, and the city looks like how I'd imagine a real city from 1899 would look.
I feel like the whole thing is a celebration of the old western USA.
Also the fact that switching to first person makes your character run by default instead of walking is frustrating as hell. I want to play RDR2 in first person but it makes it almost impossible to "greet" NPCs without assaulting them.
Ganker is endlessly contrarian for the sake of it. RDR2 is one of the few recent AAA games that fully deserved all the praise it got other than for, perhaps, the patched-together story that falls apart in the last few chapters if you even try to think about it.
Plus the epilogue kinda sticks you with characters you've already been around a bit too much as Arthur like Sadie and Charles and I didn't appreciate that much
Almost like everyone here is allowed to their own opinion instead of dickriding and upvoting whatever homosexual game of the month you are playing or getting downvoted to obscurity
No one's born filled with such extreme amounts of sarcastic irony in their blood. It's a learned moronation. The Internet is real life now, and thus serious business. Remember?
I love RDR2 but can a game's graphics really be praised that heavily when the framerate drops to 6 fps? Saint Denis always ran like shit on PS4. Pic also related
I don't know about PS4 but I spent a long time getting it to run as high as possible with 60fps on my PC without mods. I won't play it lower than 60fps but it still looks incredible.
I agree the NPC faces, hair, trees and rocks when you get up super close, and especially animal fur all look pretty bad.
Weirdly, the whole thing taken as a whole still looks like a photograph.
But the art direction they took with the Saint Denis city is what really blew me away.
It's all static. Throw a piece of dynamite into the store and see what happens. Some glass breaks, some food falls over. Nothing happens to the store itself, no fire, no wooden cavities, nothing
They sacrificed any interactivity for it
How so?
You can make an non-interactive scene as pretty as you want it to be
If the player could interact with those visuals ib any meaningful way theyd be much harder to pull off
that's just moronic. They could make every tiny item interactive like in Bethesda games, and still look the same, but there's literally no point in doing that. Game wouldn't be any better.
There was plenty of interactivity with the environment in RDR2, I don't know if that's what you mean by "interact with the visuals" though. Do you mind explaining how the visuals could be better interacted with in a way you'd consider meaningful to the overall experience of the game?
I think he means like Skyrim, and to some extent I get it. You could pick up anything in Skyrim. That being said, things like the trains still blow me away. And they made riding horses actually feel like riding horses, not just like cars.
Walking around and taking in the landscapes and the towns is still stunning to me, but maybe once that all wears off I'll agree more.
My only real complaint is that the gunplay still sucks. It's GTA 5's gun mechanics that Rockstar always uses and it's still absolute shit.
My biggest complaint so far is that I forget what the keybind is for the 50 different keybinds and to check I have to go through 6 menus to get to it.
Cope post
>t. Schizo
this. zoomies don't understand games can look super good if they sacrifice interactivity/physics/destruction
>picking up a fork is gameplay
ok morono
This scene is the equivalent or rendering a super realistic scene and then taking a snapshot of it. It's completely static but it does look like it comes from a game running on console two generations into the future.
fpbp
>interactivity
>screen shows empty road
where, do you want to knock some windows or add million press F to loot rando items lying on ground
Just investing hundreds of millions from their budget in visuals and not in other parts of the game.
I just sat on the train while it goes around the entire map for the past 30 minutes or so. It's beautiful. I finally understand what boomers used to say back in the mid 2000s when they said that video games "just look like movies nowadays." It basically is a movie, I get that. I'm not saying the gameplay is amazing, persay, but it looks beautiful.
It feels like a painting if anything
Rockstar has infinite money and aren't shy about throwing it into their products.
RDR2 is shamelessly excessive and I love it.
They forgot to add gameplay
Having the best talent in the industry, a near unlimited budget, and years upon years of expertise in crafting AAA open worlds. Rockstar just plays in an entirely different ballpark from everyone else, always 10 or so years ahead.
They were the alphas of the industry
Games for Chad
Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair.
I love Valve and Gaben
Saint-Denis has to be the best looking large city in an open world game besides Witcher 3, prove me wrong
>Downgrade 3
yikes
Did someone build the Witcher 3 town in Minecraft?
It's the most believable I've ever seen, for sure.
I don't play many open world games though. I'm comparing it to something like Skyrim, which while fun isn't believable at all. The cities are unrealistically small and you have to really roleplay/imagine to get into it.
With Saint Denis I feel like that's probably what New Orleans was actually like 130 years ago, down to the size of the city.
That's what I mean when I say I'm not just talking about the graphical detail here.
I dont understand why people like rdr2 so much, maybe im playing it wrong?
I dont care to interact with npcs or any of that, riding horses was alright and unique but not enough to sell me on the game.
The hunting was fun but taking an entire carcass across the map to sell for 9 cents doesnt feel rewarding at all.
All the missions are the same, ride from point a to b, talk, then shoot 30 nameless guys then run.
What am i suppose to do to have fun in this game?
> I dont care to interact with npcs
It's not for you. It's a game best enjoyed by people who want to experience a bit of outlaw life in the 1800s - you don't.
>want to experience outlaw life in the 1800s
>end up with a diverse group of SJWs and feminists
> NOOOOOO A LIBERTARIAN IN THE 1800s DOESN'T LIKE SLAVERY I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE
Historylets have to stop commenting on this game, no, people in the late 1800s weren't spending 75% of their day stringing up Black folk and going to KKK meetings. This was 30 years after the civil war, there were no lack of abolitionist and egalitarian movements in the US.
indeed, white gangs of outlaws back in the 1800s were definitely inclusive, diverse and progressive and hated white racists, just like modern sjws
Yup. Absolutely no one ever of different races ever got along in the 1800s.
The game explains to you a bunch of times that Dutch is a government-hating lolbertarian enamored with the ideas of a northerner writer and with being an outlaw. Why the frick would he have to be racist? Especially against Injuns, who have basically always been seen by many people as a group unfairly treated by the US government?
>The game explains to you a bunch of times that Dutch is like a modern SJW so it makes sense that you're playing as a group of outlaws who are like modern SJWs and feminists in the 1800s
This game is for homosexuals.
> dutch is like a modern sjw
Seriously how much of a historylet are you? Do you think everyone spent their day complaining about Black folk before the 1960s? The country fought an entire civil war over Black person slavery and you think everyone was 100% racist?
You are mentally ill.
I think groups of outlaws in the 1800s were a lot more likely to be racist, homophobic and sexist savages than be a bunch of modern sjws and feminists. Pretty pathetic that you're defending this, shows how much of a cuck homosexual you are. You probably defend depicting female soldiers in WW2 as well because they "technically existed".
Except they call the blacks "Darkies", most of the Chinese NPCs can't speak English, the blacks act like stereotypical drugged out factory-working blacks from the late 1800s, etc. The game doesn't feel like they pandered to SJWs. It feels like they wanted to celebrate the old USA.
I thought this too but then I heard a character call blacks "darkies" and saw the blacks in the game all drugged out and the black women all having extremely southern accents and the Chinese people not being able to speak English.. I think they tried hard to make the game historically realistic, honestly. Minus maybe a few moments where they talk about race, I think they did a good job.
That webm looks awful. Is that how it looks on consoles?
It's an ultra compressed 80 second webm, how fricking stupid are you?
I guess i grew out of the "outlaw" lifestyle thing when i was a teen and played the shit out of gta 3. After that i didnt care to just go around and beat / kill npcs to run from the cops it all just felt tedious.
I want to like it and keep giving it a shot but always am sitting there waiting for the fun to start that never happens. Maybe i just cant get immersed into games now and only view them as a game, also as an anon said the gunplay is pretty bad
The game shoves fun at you at every opportunity, it's just not for you dude. People who want to experience being a cowboy in a game are going to love the hunting, the shooting, the riding, the drinking, the small towns, the wilderness, etc etc. RDR2's fun is organic but it doesn't come for everyone.
this cowpoke gets it
It's not for everyone, but its one of the few games where you can kidnap and execute people
Also I tried murdering some chinese girl on the streets with my knife. It's brutally gory when he slits her throat and blood starts spraying everywhere. Way more bloody than I've ever seen in any GTA game.
The melee combat is great, but the gore could be better, i don't like how limbs just disappear
Still, its better than no gore
Well, if Rockstar wanted RDR2 to be fun, they made a terrible job. The game lacks all the freedom and sandbox from the GTA games that made it fun to play and focused on a ''good'' story and cinematic experience. I still play GTA SA and V but even though I don't dislike Rdr I just don't find anything fun to do. The only fun part in roleplay as a serial killer in the wild west, but it gets old over time.
The key, as others have said, is to roleplay.
Imagine you're an American in the 1800s heading out West to provide for your family. RDR2 is just extremely immersive for people who want to experience that.
Especially the part where I can run around seething about white people and women's right to vote in between skinning animals. Shut the frick up
OP here. What I think everyone in this thread is missing is that it's not just the detail in the graphics that are beautiful, it's the artstyle. The landscapes look amazing, and the city looks like how I'd imagine a real city from 1899 would look.
I feel like the whole thing is a celebration of the old western USA.
This, Art Direction is more important then Graphics
Forcing their employees to work like slaves. I thought RDR2's crunch was pretty well known.
this and hiring code monkeys from india to do their heavy work for cheap
Have they fixed the "warm clothes" bug yet? i want to replay it, but the thoughts of that and re-downloading it are putting me off
What bug?
Also the fact that switching to first person makes your character run by default instead of walking is frustrating as hell. I want to play RDR2 in first person but it makes it almost impossible to "greet" NPCs without assaulting them.
Characters in camp will tell you to put on warm clothes, regardless of what your wearing
Remember when you gays endlessly shit on this game and bullied me for liking it when it came out? Well I do. I remember.
Ganker is endlessly contrarian for the sake of it. RDR2 is one of the few recent AAA games that fully deserved all the praise it got other than for, perhaps, the patched-together story that falls apart in the last few chapters if you even try to think about it.
Plus the epilogue kinda sticks you with characters you've already been around a bit too much as Arthur like Sadie and Charles and I didn't appreciate that much
Almost like everyone here is allowed to their own opinion instead of dickriding and upvoting whatever homosexual game of the month you are playing or getting downvoted to obscurity
What are you gonna do about it, huh? Cry? You big mommy baby? WAAAAAHH! WAAAAAAHH!
OH noes! I was bulied on teh interbutts!
he's a frogposter, born moronic.
No one's born filled with such extreme amounts of sarcastic irony in their blood. It's a learned moronation. The Internet is real life now, and thus serious business. Remember?
Yes. I think I will have a good cry right about now...
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T POST THE MOST POPULAR MEME ON Ganker AND PROBABLY THE INTERNET, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
have a nice day hipster zoomie.
But this game is still shit and you’re still a gay
I love RDR2 but can a game's graphics really be praised that heavily when the framerate drops to 6 fps? Saint Denis always ran like shit on PS4. Pic also related
>I have shit lowest end hardware, that can't run rdr2 properly therefore game is bad
jesus dude.
Its initial release was on that console, numbnuts
Be nice, he's a zoomer and just became old enough to buy rated M games.
I remember they disabled AO as an fps boost on the console versions.
Rockstar's updates are cancer, they tend to glitch the games.
game was built for consoles too, the whole movement works on controllers while it's tanky and unresponsive on KBM
I don't know about PS4 but I spent a long time getting it to run as high as possible with 60fps on my PC without mods. I won't play it lower than 60fps but it still looks incredible.
Polished artstyle, game have extremely soapy textures and shit looking npcs outside of cutscenes
I agree the NPC faces, hair, trees and rocks when you get up super close, and especially animal fur all look pretty bad.
Weirdly, the whole thing taken as a whole still looks like a photograph.
But the art direction they took with the Saint Denis city is what really blew me away.
Console kid cope itt
It's all static. Throw a piece of dynamite into the store and see what happens. Some glass breaks, some food falls over. Nothing happens to the store itself, no fire, no wooden cavities, nothing