I think Mortal Kombat 4 is way overhated, I can understand the criticisms over the graphics being far less impressive than its competitors at the time and not liking the newcomers while missing so many iconic characters from the previous games, but gameplay wise i think the game is super fun, its very fast-paced, the combo system is simple yet really fun to perform, the weapons are interesting in how they can change a character (iirc Reptile with Axe is absurdly broken) and imo the music is really good, probably my fav soundtrack in the series.
The few competitive matches I managed to find on Youtube were also fun to watch, very volatile game.
I liked it when I got it for 64 for 11 bucks at blockbuster. I got 11 1999 dollars worth of entertainment and more
No, it's pretty bad, you're wrong.
It running at 60fps was a big deal at the time but the animation itself was insane. Everything looked like it was running in fast forward like a Benny Hill sketch. Combine that with the general malaise the MK franchise was going through there was little MK4 had going for it.
Mortal kombat gold is on fightcade which is pretty cool
isn't Gold really buggy and even more busted than Vanilla MK4?
Yes, MKGold Sektor destroys the game
Apart from the handheld games no mainline MK game is bad for sure most have jank but they are good fighting games. Especially if you're playing other than just casually
The entire MK series is doodoo butt garbage lol
I don't think the games are bad.
they're bad
>no mainline MK game is bad for sure most have jank but they are good fighting games
They are not.
Pretty much all of them until MK9 are total rubbish competitively, but in regards to retro in particular DA-D-A in sixth gen are some of the worst fighting games of that generation, period, and they got worse with each sequel in a very "quantity over quality" approach to their dev cycle. That's less on the dev team in Chicago and more on Midway just being a generally shit company, but still.
How bad are they? I've played bad games and MK is the opposite of that
Tekken 4 is generally considered to be one of the worst entries in Tekken, and it utterly stomps the PS2 era of MK into the ground. This was an era where Street Fighter was virtually MIA, and they just could not compete with the likes of Tekken and Soulcalibur then and opted to instead focus on superfluous content to the games in lieu of improving any of the actual fighting mechanics. You know, what makes a fighting game actually fun and worth playing.
Deadly Alliance in particular I like a lot and while I can give it a pass for being the the 'first' of a new generation, the dev team did everything wrong with Deception as a sequel and didn't play test a goddamn thing. It's not only janky, there's shit in there they literally had to do last minute before the discs went gold because they straight up forgot that it was a feature they had advertised (breakers). They also, for some reason, thought they could hotswap "fighting styles" between characters with little work required and it ended up where most characters had tons of broken or non-working strings outright.
have you actually played tekken 4?
have you even played any PS2 mortal kombat game?
or do you just parrot opinions you hear from your favorite balding youtubers?
i could take you seriously if you said something like "in my opinion, even games like tekken 4 is better than the ps2 era of mk games", but the use of
>is generally considered
just lets me know you don't actually have any of your own opinions
go actually play the ps2 mk games, they're a little janky but fun in it's own way
No one cares you moron.
Go defend shit games over at TYM if you like them so much.
and you stay here and spout moronic opinions that aren't your own, dragging this board's average IQ even lower than it already is
NTA but he's right. It was a dark time for fighting games and Tekken was really all there was to look forward to until SFIV helped revive the genre years later.
I liked the MK mainline better, but SM certainly had an influence later on in the games, to the point where you could say that the new canon was established by shaolin monks, but I don't like it because some vanilla combos aren't possible in shaolin monks. While you can still use them in the mainline games and Tekken 4 isn't a bad game by any imaginable metric
>Pretty much all of them until MK9 are total rubbish competitively
who gives a shit, games are meant to be FUN, not for sweating over how good they are for playing at a tournament filled with other sweaty morons
>games are meant to be FUN
Yeah those games are not.
Best MK game of that gen isn't even a real fighting game, it's Shaolin Monks, which is a beat 'em up and made by Midway Los Angeles. Chicago got mogged outright by a sister studio two timezones away.
Saying that the PS2 games are bad because they aren't balanced competitively is beyond moronic. You know what games are never played competitively? Mortal Kombat 1 and 2, the games that put the series on the map.
The PS2 games are sick. Awesome style, fun gameplay, cool single player modes.
read the rest of the post you quoted and don't have a kneejerk reaction to just the first part
it's saying like if mk2 had color customization, interactive fmvs, unique dialog between all characters that would be cool as hell
but then the game starts and it plays like pit fighter
all of the cool bells and whistles are a lot less cool when you open your present and that's what you get
The PS2 gen mk games are not mk. I dunno what they were trying with that, but it wasn't mk
It’s Mortal Kombat 3 with 3d graphics. Mortal Kombat 3 was a bad game. Stop trying to Konvince me that these games were good. MK2 was good, then you have a bunch of dogshit until we reached MK9 which was good too. That’s about it
Universal normals ruin the game for me.
I loved it when it came out. It had some of the best fatalities in the series.
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I played MK4 in the arcade when it was new. The graphics were great even though the animations sucked compared to the likes of Tekken 2. Still the game was cool.
In some sense, it was the last "true MK" to me: the last arcade MK game, the last mainline MK game co-created by John Tobias, gameplay system wise it was the direct descendant of MK3, unlike DA which was made from scratch.
I also didn't like the stylistic direction that the series went during the PS2 era - more comic book and cartoon-like with brighter colors and chunky costumes. MK4, despite using 3D models, was made in MK1-3 realistic style.
I'd argue that 3 and 4 already have the comic book style. 1 and 2 look like a gritty kung-fu movie. 3 and 4 look like a goofy 90s comic book movie (throw in shit like Special Forces to really highlight this). I like 1 and 2's aesthetic the best, but I actually like the PS2 aesthetic more than the 3-4 era.
The thing about the graphics is that they weren't just worse than the competition, they were also worse than the previous MK games. The 3D graphics just weren't good enough yet to look better than the digitized actors. It looked a lot less real and less visceral which was a big part of what sold this series.
The graphics were good on arcade. Check the number of polygons and shading on the character models at 1:39
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It's the animations that were bad and unnatural. Everyone moved like string puppets.
I'd argue that animation quality is graphical quality, though.
The chad having fun with ice ninja vs. skeleton fire ninja vs the virgin worrying about how balanced is the meta
All mainline MK games are good fun if you're male, straight and cisgender
They're also all miles ahead boring autism bait like Virtua Fighter
Implying MK "lore" is not autism bait. VF is just about fighting with cool kung fu moves and nothing else.
There is no lore in mk, characters die and come back all the time and the story is porn tier
No one is worried about any of that stuff. People think that game sucks because it looks bad and plays bad. You can have fun with the game if you like, no one cares.
For all the brutality in the games, it always seemed quite respectable about Shaolin Monks (the people)